Showing logs for date: 2017-09-13
01:01:19 <Ryan> Fluffy 0100
01:01:28 <Ryan> Why am I still up
01:34:23 <Ryan> Castle
01:34:28 <Ryan> 134
02:06:41 <Ryan> OF 0206
05:09:50 <Ryan> BHI?
05:09:55 <Ryan> BH
05:10:05 <Ryan> BH 0509
05:28:04 <Ryan> Grand
05:28:08 <Ryan> 0528ie
05:57:01 <ynpvisitor117> No bhi text?
05:57:53 <Graham> I heard bh from Grand/Sawmill area
05:58:36 <Ryan> I could not see BHI from here
05:59:02 <Ryan> either way I cant send the text, so even if I did see it it was a moot point :p
05:59:27 <Graham> Should have sent Demetri to check
06:00:13 <Graham> You should change your OF to wc
06:01:22 <Ryan> Which one?
06:01:38 <Ryan> never mind
06:02:00 <Ryan> GT has been weird for me. Last night it submitted the 0100 OF like.... 3 times
06:04:53 <Ryan> Lion
06:04:58 <Ryan> 0604ini ns
06:06:40 <Ryan> ....maybe?
06:45:44 <ynpvisitor999> morning everyone
06:46:24 <Ryan> morning
06:52:12 <ynpvisitor999> looks like we've lost YFT aswell. YPP does work though: http://quake.utah.edu/station/heli/YPP.png
06:56:14 <ynpvisitor999> OF in the next 20 minutes
07:02:17 <ynpvisitor999> Lion
07:07:43 <ynpvisitor999> OF 0706
07:12:05 <ynpvisitor999> by the way, we've surpassed the 970,000 entries
07:12:35 <ynpvisitor21> when is a million?
07:14:01 <ynpvisitor999> I think we'll be passing the million around late September or early October
07:14:14 <ynpvisitor999> when everything goes to plan, that is
07:14:33 <ynpvisitor21> that's a lot of geysers
07:15:37 <ynpvisitor999> not necessarily a lot of geysers
07:16:10 <ynpvisitor999> but the recorded eruptions of maybe 10-30 geysers a day
07:16:32 <ynpvisitor21> yep a lot of geysers
07:17:24 <ynpvisitor999> for example, if Cascade would start an active phase, there would be an eruptions of ~10s every 2-5 minutes initially. Then it would slow down and eventually over the period of a few weeks or months
07:17:36 <ynpvisitor999> eruption*
07:19:18 <ynpvisitor999> that alone would be enough for, assuming it is observed 24h, 360 eruption entries a day using an interval of 4m
07:19:26 <ynpvisitor60> That is a little bit beyond wishful thinking.
07:19:30 <ynpvisitor21> I remember that - when it slowed down it was hard to see by end of summer and they had it on the front page of the newspaper so visitors were disappointed they couldn't see it every 3 minutes
07:20:39 <ynpvisitor60> Posted eruptions will slow down substantially after this week also as most gazers will be gone. By 10/1 it will be mostly cam eruptions with some weekenders in the basin posting.
07:21:22 <Ryan> Oblong
07:21:29 <Ryan> I think
07:22:44 <ynpvisitor999> true, but this is of course calculated assuming eruptions can be seen clearly and every eruption is entered to GT
07:23:16 <ynpvisitor60> Which is also wishful thinking.
07:23:25 <ynpvisitor999> indeed
07:23:50 <Ryan> So, basically, we will pass a million when we pass a million :p
07:24:03 <ynpvisitor999> let's keep it at that :)
07:24:15 <ynpvisitor21> my vote is for 01-01-2018
07:24:55 <ynpvisitor999> *grabs 1998 log and enters everything from January 9th-onward to GT*
07:25:19 <ynpvisitor21> you are doing 1998?
07:25:39 <ynpvisitor999> currently 1992, but thinking of doing 1998 after 1992 is finished
07:27:50 <ynpvisitor21> I think Jake should do the millionth
07:27:57 <ynpvisitor999> It's basically choosing between doing everything chronologically or reaching the 1 million mark the fastest
07:28:22 <ynpvisitor21> because 98 has more?
07:28:35 <ynpvisitor60> I agree with 21 re Jake. And if not Jake, Will B.
07:28:51 <ynpvisitor999> 1998 was the year Cascade was active, with initial intervals of as short as 2m
07:29:26 <ynpvisitor21> you might learn more (personally) if you did it chronologically
07:29:44 <Ryan> and savor it more:p
07:31:14 <ynpvisitor21> :)
07:31:45 <ynpvisitor999> I think I'm on the same line with you, 21, as I have the 1998 logs to look forward too instead of putting everything into 1998 and being bored after that
07:32:14 <ynpvisitor999> and thus don't like to enter the logs anymore
07:32:22 <ynpvisitor21> something interesting might crop up in 93
07:32:47 <ynpvisitor999> Boardwalk was actually the feature of 1992
07:34:14 <ynpvisitor999> aswell as false Indicators in August
07:35:41 <ynpvisitor21> which years did Will already do
07:37:49 <ynpvisitor999> Every year prior to 1992
07:38:03 <ynpvisitor999> not sure of the years after that
07:38:37 <ynpvisitor999> obviously 1992 wasn't done
07:42:12 <ynpvisitor999> prior to 1992: 1970-1973, 1975-1979 and 1981. I don't think logbooks of the missing years (<1969, 1974, 1980 and 1982-1991) are digitalised (yet) or if they exist at all
07:43:30 <ynpvisitor999> morning Kevin
07:43:40 <Kevin L™> Hi
07:44:50 <ynpvisitor999> looks like Oblong is ie
07:44:59 <Ryan> Daisy soon
07:45:29 <Kevin L™> You still alive Ryan?
07:45:33 <Ryan> yep
07:45:36 <Ryan> slept here
07:46:07 <Ryan> certainly looks like Oblong
07:46:52 <Ryan> Bank?
07:47:17 <ynpvisitor999> not familiar with the webcam location for Bank
07:48:06 <Ryan> Its right above Sawmill/OT on the Daisy hill
07:48:31 <Ryan> Certainly looked like it, big puffy clouds.
07:48:54 <ynpvisitor999> thanks for its location
07:49:31 <Ryan> Behind the trees, not tall enough to see water but it erupts with big heavy bursts and lots of steam. Its usually audible from Grand on a quiet night
07:50:07 <ynpvisitor999> that's quite the noise when it makes, then
07:50:31 <Ryan> Yup. Its startled me on many foggy mornings. Sounds like a bear :D
07:50:52 <ynpvisitor999> when -> that
07:50:59 <Ryan> ?
07:51:18 <ynpvisitor999> correction for my 0750:07 post
07:51:35 <Ryan> oh
07:52:21 <Ryan> Finally have a smooth stream
07:52:38 <Ryan> Thats Bank now
07:53:03 <Ryan> 0752ie, 6min is the right interval. Humid and cool there this morning.
07:53:51 <ynpvisitor60> Much more humid and cool predicted for later this week. Snow at elevation Friday.
07:54:19 <Ryan> Nice! Yeah we have finally been in "hoodie" temps here for the last week
07:57:26 <ynpvisitor999> Daisy
07:57:44 <Ryan> Ooh I have a delay
08:04:11 <ynpvisitor999> Just had the first significant autumn storm. So far, the results are a couple of fallen trees, tilted trucks, damaged beach sheds and higher sea water than usual (140 cm/55 inches higher)
08:07:26 <Joe> Lion
08:09:04 <ynpvisitor999> looks like an end-of-series eruption, or at least a not so powerful one
08:09:17 <ynpvisitor999> morning Dave
08:09:28 <Ryan> its at least the 4th
08:09:43 <Kevin L™> Short series the last couple of days.
08:10:15 <ynpvisitor999> probably preparing for a long series in the next couple of days or saving energy for Giantess
08:11:31 <Dave from B> Morning 999, Kevin, Ryan, Joe, numbers
08:12:13 <Joe> Hi [b]Dave[/b]
08:12:13 <Kevin L™> Hi Dave.
08:15:14 <Ryan> fluffy time
08:15:39 <Kevin L™> Gonna be really fluffy today.
08:15:45 <Ryan> Yep
08:15:55 <Ryan> There we go
08:15:59 <Ryan> 0815
08:16:07 <Ryan> Took it long enough
08:16:12 <Dave from B> This Lion series has at least 4 eruptinons
08:16:23 <Dave from B> based on intervals on GT
08:16:29 <Ryan> Yeah the ~06xx one I saw was not the initial
08:16:54 <Kevin L™> Was it a Lion major?
08:16:55 <Dave from B> 999, did you look at overnight captures this morning?
08:17:04 <ynpvisitor999> no, I did not
08:17:18 <Ryan> I was literally asleep at the desk for the initial
08:17:32 <Ryan> I woke up and saw BH start, entered it and fell back asleep
08:17:39 <Kevin L™> 1 to 3 inches of snow forecast for the park Saturday.
08:19:30 <Dave from B> Last day of summer for Blgs today
08:19:41 <Dave from B> Fall starts tomorrow
08:26:32 <Joe> did I loose a week?
08:27:06 <Kevin L™> Dave has been like that since the baseball hit him in the head.
08:27:21 <Joe> :)
08:27:33 <Dave from B> nope...weather dictates what season it is...haha Kevin
08:28:42 <ynpvisitor21> Scott got a LAbial this morning - lucky dog
08:30:56 <Ryan(afk)> off to classes and stuff.
08:30:57 <Ryan(afk)> bbl
08:31:10 <Kevin L™> Good luck
08:48:43 <Eric> morning
08:48:53 <Kevin L™> Hi
08:49:07 <ynpvisitor999> morning Eric
08:49:28 <ynpvisitor999> YFT isn't working anymore
08:49:35 <ynpvisitor999> YPP is, though
08:57:05 <Dave from B> Morning Eric
08:57:08 <Eric> Thanks DG...if I change it...YPP will jus stop working :-P
08:58:05 <Dave from B> Huge increase in YNP August visitation...only down 1.1% YTD from last years record
08:59:35 <ynpvisitor999> interesting spikes on the Echinus logger graph, not that they are eruptions, though: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_monitoring_34.html
09:04:14 <Dave from B> Why would a graph show a huge temp drop?
09:05:34 <ynpvisitor21> because the temperature dropped?
09:06:05 <ynpvisitor999> it probably means that, after a 'false start' (increase in temperature), Echinus didn't overflow for a while. That's probably the reason for the drop in temperature
09:06:39 <ynpvisitor999> as the runoff channel in which the logger measures the temperature, went dry
09:08:17 <Dave from B> So, by the graph then it looks like it almost continuously overflows?
09:09:21 <ynpvisitor999> if I understand the graph correctly, yes
09:13:01 <ynpvisitor999> morning Jake
09:16:51 <Jake> interesting e
09:17:28 <Jake> Echinus graph. definitely something going on there that's different, minors or heavy overflow
09:20:00 <ynpvisitor999> hopefully someone will be around near Echinus today and catches one of those spikes on the graph
09:21:18 <Dave from B> Maybe batteries are losing their juice or do loggers normally just die all of a sudden?
09:22:14 <ynpvisitor999> if they lose their power, they'll log -30 C, I do believe
09:22:26 <Eric> No, that is some kind of minor activity Dave...I think that same think was reported in basin last week.
09:22:44 <Eric> think = thing
09:23:42 <Eric> guess it was this note I was thinking of: http://geysertimes.org/note.php?id=6139
09:24:24 <ynpvisitor21> doesn't look like anything on that day
09:24:45 <ynpvisitor999> I think it's related to this note: http://geysertimes.org/note.php?id=6165
09:26:54 <Jake> I'm not sure about the YVO loggers, but other failing loggers can manifest data in different ways: extreme values high and low or stop recording
09:35:35 <ynpvisitor21> Jake we decided you should have the honor of entering the millionth eruption
09:37:23 <Jake> that's very gracious but I don't have any desire to be the one
09:37:44 <Jake> I'm just curious to see what will happen when that time comes.
09:38:00 <Jake> will people SUDDENLY become interested in logging Anemones?
09:38:16 <Eric> Only Micah :_P
09:38:58 <Dave from B> I'm going to stay up all night and make old entries as soon as we get within 2000:D
09:39:00 <Jake> and if it's Micah, that's not out of line, but if it's someone else trying to get 1 million, they're greedy ;)
09:39:14 <Dave from B> :D:D
09:39:42 <Dave from B> I didn't realize there was a prize
09:40:39 <Eric> Dave is putting up a prize?
09:41:11 <Joe> That is what I heard!
09:41:13 <ynpvisitor21> What was #1
09:42:21 <Eric> frozen shrimp ring crown!
09:43:01 <Dave from B> How about 100# of frozen halibut bones? salmon heads?
09:43:37 <Eric> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKDtUzRIG6I
09:43:41 <ynpvisitor3.14> true number one looks to be gone. ID #2 is plume april 14 2011
09:43:49 <Jake> several of the earliest entries have been deleted because they were test cases.
09:44:08 <Dave from B> haha Eric
09:44:08 <ynpvisitor3.14> entered by Jake himself
09:44:40 <Eric> I bet you jake entered #1 too :-P
09:44:51 <ynpvisitor3.14> prolly so
09:45:16 <ynpvisitor3.14> prize a case of roly poly fish heads?
09:45:30 <Eric> apparently.
09:45:44 <ynpvisitor3.14> eat them up yum
09:47:48 <Jake> entry # 1,000,000 doesn't really mean 1,000,000 unique eruptions in the system. there's lots of doubling up with E times and such.
09:48:41 <Joe> Dave can give a free guided tour of the parking lot at Seafoods of the World :)
09:48:55 <Jake> here's back-in-the-day: https://web.archive.org/web/20110710171617/http://geysertimes.org/
09:51:17 <Eric> Nice, and that was after 4000+ entries had already been logged and in July!
09:52:27 <ynpvisitor21> as it gets latrger are the more strains on the system?
09:53:41 <Eric> OF ie
09:54:03 <Jake> that snapshot was 3 months after it was started. almost all entries were from the webcam. Plume was good for 12+ entries per day so that was probably good for 1,000 entries over 3 months
09:55:24 <Jake> 21, there have been growing pains as GT has gotten bigger. Not so much from the number of entries though, a couple million records is not a big deal for modern databases.
09:55:32 <Eric> Cool :-) and yes 21...there is more strain as users and data gets larger. But machine processing gets cheaper too
09:57:01 <Jake> bigger pains come from the growth in the number of apps and their connections to the database
09:57:21 <ynpvisitor21> oh I can imagine
09:57:28 <Jake> we've had to figure out ways to manage that better because the original setup did not scale well at all
09:58:08 <Eric> The hotest smartphones in 2011 where the razor and first gen samsung galaxy
09:59:02 <Eric> Yes, and still room to improve on that data sync :-)
10:02:51 <Dave from B> Jake, what time periods in GT are missing lots of data
10:03:59 <Jake> you want which years have the lowest number of entries?
10:04:57 <Dave from B> I would love to see number of entries for each year. Is that possible?
10:13:13 <Dave from B> A question for everyone...when at F&M during my last trip I heard from a couple people that they would rather see 1 event cycle per day than many. Seems to make sense for me from an energy standpoint. Anybody else care to comment?
10:13:40 <Dave from B> Forget about the extra energy exerted by a walking gazer:)
10:13:54 <Jake> here you go: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T4fHn0vvYCz4mv9l9eFgIvNBlMeGHPQb5ac38i3m4-s/edit?usp=sharing
10:13:58 <Jake> the 80's are sparse
10:15:17 <Eric> wow...92 got some love!
10:15:38 <ynpvisitor999> indeed :)
10:16:19 <ynpvisitor999> I wonder who entered so much entries... I mean, they really need some time to enter so much data
10:16:28 <Eric> gt really peeked in 2008
10:16:56 <Jake> are you saying GT has jumped the shark?
10:17:20 <Eric> New icon for the site?
10:17:33 <Eric> shark jumping over LC?
10:17:56 <Eric> :-P
10:18:52 <Jake> the decline in electronically monitored geysers really hurts these numbers. that and Plume dormancy
10:19:25 <Dave from B> Thanks Jake
10:20:21 <Jake> an active Plume was say 10 in-person/webcam entries per day (3,650/year) plus 22 * 365 = 8,040 E times per year. So Plume active was worth 11,000 entries in one year
10:20:42 <Eric> wow...that does make a difference
10:20:57 <Dave from B> Jake, I thought with help from GOSA that more geysers had loggers on them now than a few years ago
10:21:17 <Eric> So question...do these numbers reflect a decrease in user activity or geyser activity since 2008?
10:21:48 <Jake> there are more loggers now, Dave
10:21:50 <ynpvisitor999> I don't think decrease in user activity
10:23:19 <Jake> I'd want to look at that on a geyser-by-geyser basis for the top 20 geysers
10:23:47 <Jake> it IS user activity if Anemone used to be logged a lot and now is not
10:24:37 <Jake> even though Anemone keeps doing what it's doing
10:24:47 <Eric> The days of the sputs roaming the basin has slowed :-(
10:25:46 <Jake> the Pareto Principle is in full effect in GT. 20% of the geysers have 80% of the entries. 20% of the users enter 80% of the entries
10:26:33 <Jake> Will alone was such a super entrant that I'm sure he accounts for well over 50% of entries for some summers
10:27:10 <Eric> is tara the only gazer left working in OF area?
10:27:31 <Jake> if you want to inflate numbers, record White, Anemones and Jet
10:27:57 <Jake> I'm not sure on personnel
10:29:25 <ynpvisitor21> question on that troll recently - did they register with a real email address?
10:36:05 <Jake> i only emailed one of them and it didn't bounce
10:49:24 <Eric> Not very likely, but grand could pop at 1056, in 7 minutes
10:53:01 <Dave from B> 536 interval would be nice
10:54:34 <Eric> went at 541 yesterday...so have to assume it could do it again :-)
10:55:22 <Kevin L™> Not if Dave is watching it.
10:55:51 <ynpvisitor999> SC
10:55:53 <Eric> odds are much more likely to have a 1119 Grand :-)
10:56:51 <ynpvisitor999> Daisy
10:57:02 <Eric> I really would like to do some probability calcs based on previous eruptions and show them here
10:57:15 <Eric> or in the predictions table
11:02:44 <Ryan(afk)> Dave: re: F&M event cycles
11:03:33 <Ryan(afk)> I think it strongly depends on the year. In 2014 It had two modes: good event cycles or garbage. One time Angle literally never shut off for 5 days straight except for 5 instances and all of those led instantly into a strong event cycle.
11:04:09 <Ryan(afk)> But under "normal" conditions it just did its usual 1-2/day. More or less did not seem to matter. Other years thats different.
11:04:56 <Ryan(afk)> So if you heard people at F&M this year I think none of us here (save Will, Tara, and the few others routinely down at F&M) can really comment with any reasonable certainty on what is "best" for F&M.
11:05:05 <Ryan(afk)> As always: F&M does what ever F&M feels like :)
11:06:13 <Eric> What a crazy platform :-D
11:06:49 <Ryan> Yeah, the pebble pile is changing below ground as fast as it is above ground.
11:07:31 <ynpvisitor999> I think, that if F&M were to do only 1 event cycle a day, the heat/water supply is not good enough to lead to an eruption. However, when there are multiple event cycle on one day, this probably means that the heat/water supply is almost good enough to cause an eruption
11:07:46 <ynpvisitor999> of course, there are execeptions to this
11:08:12 <Ryan> The entirety of 2014 and I think 2015 and 2016 followed almost no rules.
11:08:38 <Eric> Sounds Australian :-P
11:09:07 <Ryan> It, like every other geyser, has its window of intervals. The event cycles happened when they did. Some times it pulled a 2day interval and some times it was two weeks.
11:10:28 <Ryan> That thing is so crazily chaotic and complex that any guesses on water table vs water temperature vs heat vs whatever are just guesses without extensive visual observation backed up by empirical observations of both ground water levels, temperatures, and heat...
11:10:42 <Ryan> I think you'd have a better chance of figuring out why Sawmill is dead.
11:10:49 <Ryan> Or Plume :D
11:11:14 <ynpvisitor10> Those breakouts to the west of Plume probably killed it.
11:11:49 <Dave from B> Thanks Ryan
11:11:53 <Ryan> Or the ones east.
11:12:23 <Dave from B> Most geysers kill themselves
11:12:29 <Dave from B> but not all
11:12:31 <ynpvisitor999> I think I'll bring a bag of cement with me when I visit Yellowstone and plug the satellite vents of Plume with it. That'll probably fix it.
11:13:09 <Ryan> Np, Dave. I have come to the conclusion that while lots of theorizing and arm waiving can often solve the mysteries of many geysers: for some its just a way to fill time while waiting and hoping.
11:13:52 <Kevin L™> If you firure it out, it will change.
11:14:05 <Jake> don't be so sure, DG. Crystal Geyser @ Green River, UT had a side pool feature that the town filled in to make the geyser more regular so it could be a tourist attraction again. Now Crystal Geyser is dead, too.
11:14:16 <Eric> that is about the only constant in geysers kevin :-)
11:14:20 <ynpvisitor3.14> Much like the armchair quarterbacks and other sports pundits endlessly debating things with no answers.
11:15:09 <ynpvisitor10> ynpvisitor3.14 this is how we find answers to things. Being skeptical and rude while we do so isn't beneficial to this conversation.
11:15:16 <Ryan> Plume itself could very easily have been a ephemeral feature. It was only 90yrs old or so when it died.
11:15:18 <Kevin L™> BUT that is what keeps us watching them. If they were always the same they would be boring.
11:15:20 <Jake> it's hard to separate cause and effect there though because people had also put dynamite down the tube or thrown rocks
11:15:52 <ynpvisitor3.14> Not intending to be rude to anyone here at all. More of a jab at the sports world (which I do enjoy BTW).
11:16:02 <ynpvisitor10> gotcha.
11:17:03 <ynpvisitor999> Crystal Geyser was, if I'm not mistaken, a CO2-driven geyser? If so, it could probably be *and* the vandalism *and* that the CO2 supply is gone, too
11:17:08 <Ryan> The Sputs got their own version of being dumbfounded on a daily basis by the patterns of a feature.
11:17:12 <ynpvisitor3.14> Baseball hot stove conversations for example. Great fun.
11:17:41 <ynpvisitor10> visitor999 that's my thought as well. the C02 reservoir was getting depleted already.
11:18:27 <Ryan> If I had to guess where the energy for Plume went it was to Improbable. Nothing else has expanded. It sure as hell did not go to Giantess.
11:18:53 <Eric> did anemone behavior change after plume stopped?
11:18:56 <Dave from B> Wouldn't it be great to be able to see underground
11:19:04 <ynpvisitor10> Anemone behavior did not change.
11:19:05 <ynpvisitor999> it would
11:19:08 <Ryan> I mean...
11:19:35 <ynpvisitor3.14> I was thinking the same about Plume as Ryan mentioned - not old feature, and had a known and volatile history.
11:19:49 <ynpvisitor10> I strongly disagree.
11:19:55 <ynpvisitor3.14> Sawmill on the other hand, been around longer and much more stable/static.
11:20:09 <ynpvisitor10> oops. Misread your message 3.14
11:20:11 <Ryan> Yeah, but Sawmill did not go sleepy sleep on its own.
11:20:18 <ynpvisitor10> Yeah. The whole group died.
11:20:31 <Ryan> The whole complex (minus Spasmo and OT) went down with it.
11:20:38 <ynpvisitor10> OT is dormant too.
11:20:44 <Ryan> Oops, I miss-spoke on OT
11:20:46 <ynpvisitor10> Nifty and Spasmo are the only features left standing.
11:20:54 <ynpvisitor10> Tardy to a lesser degree.
11:20:58 <Ryan> I lied, on purpose to confuse all of you - Muahahaha!
11:21:00 <Jake> Churn is constantly overflowing
11:21:22 <ynpvisitor10> Has it ever ebbed Jake?
11:21:34 <ynpvisitor10> during this dormancy
11:21:56 <ynpvisitor999> hmm... could it be that energy from the Sawmill Complex has shifted to both Grand and Castle?
11:22:14 <Ryan> I doubt it
11:22:16 <Jake> I don't know. I was only around for a couple hours this year so I tried to grill regulars on its behavior. I was left with the impression that it is not ebbing
11:22:17 <ynpvisitor3.14> I wondered about Grand - intervals seem to have been on the short side this summer mostly.
11:22:21 <Ryan> But then again who knows.
11:22:54 <ynpvisitor10> It would partially explain Grand's remarkable intervals.
11:23:01 <ynpvisitor999> Castle sped up from ~14½h to ~13½-13¾h
11:23:30 <Jake> I don't know that the energy has to have gone somewhere else. Can't the energy just leave? Petered out?
11:23:36 <Eric> hmmm, no turban or grand yet :-(
11:23:36 <Dave from B> A lot of summers of late Grand has shortened its intervals
11:23:42 <Ryan> Energy being consumed tends to be proportional to the mass of what its being used in. I think the volume of water (and thus energy) in the Sawmill group was a drop compared to Grand. Much like Plume not being able to have an effect on Beehive or Giantess. The relative energy levels just may be way too high.
11:23:54 <Jake> Grand has had remarkable intervals in other years with all other systems around it behaving "normally" though
11:23:56 <Dave from B> Eric, you need a Grand prediction?:)
11:24:11 <Eric> No, just need a grand now :-P
11:24:14 <Dave from B> Grand 1143 plus or minue 2 minutes
11:24:21 <ynpvisitor10> I suppose the energy could have just dropped. It's just a remarkably fast change.
11:24:24 <Eric> brave prediction :-P
11:24:36 <Dave from B> :D
11:24:37 <ynpvisitor10> Especially for a group that used to be one of the highest energy geyser groups in the park
11:24:42 <ynpvisitor96> I´m here so Grand can go now :-)
11:24:46 <Kevin L™> Grand should go now. OF window.
11:25:01 <Betty> hi all
11:25:03 <ynpvisitor999> evening Betty
11:25:04 <Eric> no turban or grand
11:25:05 <Kevin L™> Hi Betty
11:25:07 <Eric> hi betty
11:25:49 <Betty> hi Eric, Kevin and DGInc
11:26:01 <Eric> d0 :-(
11:26:28 <ynpvisitor999> regarding the AFK message, Eric, could you code a command that does AFK messages automatically?
11:26:54 <Eric> No...because I have no idea if someone is afk or just staring at the screen :-P
11:27:06 <Dave from B> ok..you can forget my Grand prediction
11:27:31 <Eric> I don't believe you dg :-P
11:27:39 <Dave from B> Oh, good...now we can talk about 999 because he isn't at his keyboard:D
11:27:51 <Betty> haha
11:28:07 <Eric> That kid needs to get to yellowstone!
11:29:01 <Dave from B> maybe we could pay him .00001 per GT entry?
11:29:17 <Betty> he would fit into those homeless on the bw
11:31:19 <Eric> He needs to apply for a job at yellowstone over the summer....great opportunity for foreign nationals.
11:34:36 <Dave from B> Maybe he's afraid to visit for fear he won't like geysers
11:35:14 <ynpvisitor107> true Dave, they are so much less impressive being there...
11:35:23 <Eric> that would be a bummer dave
11:35:39 <Dave from B> I hate to be a curmudgeon again (to steal TSB's favorite name) but this Grand interval will be above 7 hours
11:35:56 <Dave from B> haha 107
11:36:29 <ynpvisitor10> Well you know what they say, once you've seen one geyser you've seen them all
11:36:52 <Dave from B> I'm sure a few tourists have said that
11:36:56 <Betty> true, 10
11:37:08 <ynpvisitor10> I've heard it well over a dozen times.
11:37:20 <ynpvisitor10> But THERE'S a geyser that is just a true majesty to witness.
11:37:24 <ynpvisitor107> why over 7 hours Dave?
11:37:30 <Dave from B> Yeah, why else would Betty spends thousands to come to YNP almost every year
11:37:47 <Ryan> Fluffy sploded
11:38:42 <Dave from B> 107, I like to see Turbans intervals a little shorter
11:38:56 <Eric> Dave...Grand still could go on this interval...don't give up hope! I have seen a D0 followed by eruption quite a few times.
11:39:06 <ynpvisitor107> me too Eric
11:39:09 <Dave from B> Eric, it does happen
11:39:12 <ynpvisitor107> and OF will be done
11:39:17 <ynpvisitor107> bonus
11:39:26 <Eric> can we pan left slightly though?
11:39:30 <Kevin L™> My favorite was the couple walking past Grand so his wife could see Morning Glory Pool. He wanted to stop and watch. Her comment: But Dear, it's only water!
11:39:41 <Betty> why should it happen, Dave? You are not there, so no reason
11:39:49 <ynpvisitor10> Kevin have you ever heard Rocco's steamboat story?
11:40:00 <Eric> haha...empty holes are the best!
11:40:25 <Kevin L™> I was there that year.
11:40:45 <Betty> Please tell it
11:41:00 <ynpvisitor3.14> thx camop
11:41:05 <Dave from B> I'm sad that most pools have lost there spectacular color...glad we still have Grand Prismatic
11:41:17 <ynpvisitor10> This was one of the steamboat eruptions in the 80s. Rocco was a naturalist at the time.
11:41:28 <ynpvisitor10> Steamboat had just erupted, and was in full raging water phase.
11:41:48 <ynpvisitor10> Rocco's watching it from the bridge.
11:42:04 <ynpvisitor10> And suddenly this couple rounds the corner, arm in arm, looking straight ahead.
11:42:23 <ynpvisitor10> Dressed very nicely.
11:42:46 <ynpvisitor10> The wife has a norris pamphlet in her hand, and they pause at the bridge.
11:42:59 <ynpvisitor10> The wife, and ONLY the wife, glances up slowly at steamboat, in all of it's roaring chaos.
11:43:16 <ynpvisitor10> Looks back at the pamphlet......
11:43:23 <ynpvisitor10> "Echinus is this way dear...."
11:43:30 <ynpvisitor10> and off they go, without the husband even looking up.
11:43:51 <Betty> ahhhhahahaha!
11:44:35 <Dave from B> nice story 10
11:44:49 <Dave from B> As they say...
11:45:01 <Dave from B> "It's not the destination it's the journey"
11:45:08 <Betty> I waited for: is this Old Faithful?
11:45:39 <ynpvisitor10> that happened too, at another eruption.
11:46:05 <Betty> LOL
11:46:26 <ynpvisitor10> Visitors: It's the best of times and the worst of times.
11:46:37 <Eric> looks like we will have a D1
11:46:49 <Kevin L™> It is amazing what people walk right by and don't see.
11:47:24 <Eric> Well, to the casual tourist...they have no basis for what is normal
11:47:25 <Betty> I wonder: WHY are you HERE????
11:47:33 <ynpvisitor10> Yep, but it's also amazing what they'll pick up on too.
11:47:45 <ynpvisitor10> I once was entertaining a crowd of over 30 people by having them watch Spasmodic start.
11:47:56 <Ryan> Lady walks up to erupting Steamboat: "Wow, Old Faithful will be HUGE!"
11:48:00 <Betty> I was hooked by the first spritz of water!
11:48:02 <ynpvisitor10> And then I pointed at Sawmill and went "aaaand now...." *Ka-thump*
11:48:10 <ynpvisitor10> and then the whole crowd migrated to sawmill.
11:48:11 <Kevin L™> I loved going out with John Muller. He had a knack of seeing and feeling everything.
11:48:43 <Dave from B> I feel soory for tourists who are in a hurry...it is no way to enjoy life
11:48:47 <ynpvisitor10> One of the many people I wish I had a chance to meet.
11:49:53 <Dave from B> Ryan, you remember our first meeting at UGB?
11:50:44 <Kevin L™> One thing I really liked was when he pointed out you could hear the wind whistling through the feathers of geese as they flew by Grand.
11:51:11 <Eric> Wow...that is some seriously good hearing :-)
11:52:11 <Kevin L™> With the crowds now you may not be able to but if you are around in the evening without a lot of people you should be able to catch it.
11:52:21 <Ryan> Yes
11:52:50 <Ryan> I remember wondering who the very hyper ball of energy was that grabbed me and said "HI" very loudly at 2330
11:52:53 <Dave from B> If you haven't been out in the pitch black of night to watch BH or Grand, you are missing a LOT.
11:53:03 <Dave from B> haha Ryan
11:53:37 <Dave from B> Ryan, that had to be Becca:D
11:53:52 <Dave from B> The stars that night Ryan were incredible
11:54:10 <Ryan> It was totally Will.
11:54:17 <Ryan> I vaguely remember Becca almost asleep.
11:54:31 <Ryan> And I remember Oval Pool sloshing and trying to erupt
11:54:38 <Dave from B> At Grand at 1 am I could hear the slightest of overflow increases in Grand and I'm half deaf
11:55:13 <ynpvisitor10> Night gazing is truly spectacular.
11:55:22 <ynpvisitor10> Old Faithful at night is a whole different Animal.
11:55:24 <Ryan> All I remember was you trying to tell me that Grand was picking up in overflow before will yelled: "TURBAN" and I couldnt hear anything else.
11:55:52 <Ryan> Then again, I did get to see a full moon, snow covered, three burst with Will and I being the only two there about eight months after that.
11:57:00 <Ryan> That I will never forget: hearing the rumble as the third burst began and it hadnt even broken the surface yet
11:57:42 <Dave from B> There are many gazers who love that time of night because of the peace: Graham and Heinrich come to mind for me
11:57:43 <Kevin L™> Geyser Hill at night is spooky
11:58:15 <Ryan> LEt me tell you about GH at night...
11:58:22 <ynpvisitor10> The trees between geyser hill and Grand, no thanks.
11:58:27 <Ryan> Imagine this:
11:58:41 <Ryan> You get to BH at, say, 1800 and wait for Indy. ITs been 18hrs.
11:58:58 <Ryan> 2200, still nothing. Its getting windy and very cold. (early June).
11:59:10 <Ryan> 23:30 and one of you leaves, leaving just the two of you.
11:59:12 <ynpvisitor10> hahaha, I know where this is going.
11:59:20 <Ryan> 23:45, it rains, HARD
11:59:23 <Dave from B> 10, I agree...nasty spooky corridor at night
12:00:03 <Ryan> 00:00 you hide under the benches using your ponchos and chairs as shelters. BH is now at 24hrs and you arent giving up.
12:00:08 <Kevin L™> We got reported to LE at BH at 0200 as a loud drunken party on the bw once.
12:00:09 <Ryan> 01:15, you give up.
12:00:34 <Eric> 0120 eruption?
12:00:42 <ynpvisitor10> Close. Stories not over
12:00:47 <ynpvisitor10> Source: I was the other person
12:00:49 <Ryan> You're cold, wet, frozen, and tired. You walk down to the Lodge, get the bikes and think: I think I hear Indy. You travel all the way around OF and make it to the VC before
12:01:00 <Ryan> finally convicing the other person to go back to the overlook.
12:01:13 <Dave from B> haha
12:01:20 <Betty> :-)
12:01:23 <ynpvisitor10> I could have sworn we went around old faithful counter clockwise.
12:01:25 <Ryan> You go all the way to the overlook, its obviously erupting and yet the OTHER person (10) did not want to erroneously wake people up
12:01:39 <Ryan> Nope, it was CW.
12:01:42 <Betty> HAHHAHA
12:01:51 <Ryan> We were afraid of having bikes on that boardwalk infront of the VC
12:02:24 <Ryan> Finally you hear the rumble of BHI and very angrily go: "Beehives Indicator, 01:28... I.... E."
12:02:39 <ynpvisitor10> HA. I remember your tone still
12:02:40 <Ryan> And at 01:35 you get a gorgeous BH with a double moonbow.
12:03:02 <Ryan> Moral of the story: if we hadn't left we would have had one hell of a cold shower. The wind shifted and there was no where to hide.
12:03:29 <ynpvisitor10> Still. I swear we were going towards the lodge from the VEC when we noticed Indy
12:03:29 <Betty> :-D
12:03:34 <Ryan> That was far and away the most glorious Beehive I have ever seen. But yes I was quite frustrated with you :)
12:03:34 <ynpvisitor10> Not the other way around.
12:03:50 <Ryan> Our bikes were at the lodge and we lived by the Inn.
12:04:01 <Ryan> Why would we have gone to the Inn first and then to the Lodge.
12:04:11 <Ryan> West Triplet
12:04:19 <ynpvisitor10> I don't know, but my memory is passing Split Cone when we noticed BHI
12:04:24 <Ryan> Or Rift
12:04:28 <ynpvisitor10> And we were going towards the lodge.
12:04:32 <Dave from B> Ryan, when is the last time you've been to YNP?
12:04:38 <Betty> it´s WT
12:04:56 <Ryan> We were passing SC when we saw it, but we were going to the VEC. I know because I convinced you to stay on the BW because I thought it was going.
12:05:02 <Ryan> Dave - August 2015 :(
12:05:18 <ynpvisitor10> Yeah, when you punched me as soon as you saw me.
12:05:39 <Ryan> Yep, hard. And will almost wrecked because he did not know I was coming in.
12:06:25 <ynpvisitor10> That was really hard to pull off.
12:07:14 <Ryan> Extremely. It was supposed to be a surprise for everyone. And by the last week I did not care who knew so long as it wasnt Will.
12:07:30 <Ryan> I think everyone but he and Rocco knew by then. Poor Rocco, we almost killed him. :)
12:09:08 <ynpvisitor999> and chat dies...
12:09:22 <Eric> So last turban was not marked D2...accident?
12:09:48 <ynpvisitor999> I think they know it's D2, but they forgot to comment it
12:10:31 <Ryan> I want lunch, but I also want to see Grand.
12:10:38 <Ryan> Sigh, decisions, decisions.
12:12:43 <ynpvisitor999> if you can get lunch in under 10 minutes, you could watch Grand and eat lunch in the same time
12:12:57 <Ryan> aint happening.
12:13:23 <ynpvisitor10> Ah the turban cycle panic.
12:13:55 <Ryan> LOL So many times I have sat at those benches and wondered if I could make it to Morning Glory and back in time
12:14:37 <Dave from B> Going to lower Hams only costs you 1 Turban
12:14:51 <Dave from B> I bet you could run it and miss none
12:15:15 <Dave from B> But if you really have to go...might not be the dryest method
12:16:02 <Ryan> True
12:16:26 <Dave from B> Is it closer to Morning Glory potty?
12:16:43 <Ryan> Best Grand I ever saw was after 10 called me out, knowing I had the stomach flu and he said: "Get a bag and get your camera and get out here..."
12:16:56 <Ryan> Most spectacular sunset and rainbow I have ever seen. Two burst to boot.
12:17:17 <Ryan> Thankfully the bag wasnt needed.
12:17:28 <Betty> we managed to come back from Artemisia to F&M, heard: why do you leave an erupting Artemisia, ran back uphill and missed it anyhow
12:17:57 <ynpvisitor10> and then there was the time I called you to Penta and we got the BH dual
12:18:18 <Ryan> Eh, yeah, Artemisia is nice but only if youre there for the start. I am one of the people guilty of not calling it for the first minute just to feel the shaking and rumbling.
12:18:49 <Ryan> The one where theres a video of us running through Penta's spray, with Beehive in the background, and we were both just flailing hysterically?
12:18:53 <Ryan> And Rocco was laughing
12:20:09 <Ryan> OK, what the heck: 12:24+/-2m
12:20:10 <ynpvisitor10afk> there we go.
12:23:13 <Dave from B> Becca has taken a Penta shower as well...That was a fun day
12:25:03 <Jimbo Nitrogen> Grand
12:25:12 <ynpvisitor3.14> TALL
12:25:18 <Ryan> On a delay here
12:25:21 <Ryan> thanks for the head up
12:25:27 <Ryan> Wow!
12:25:28 <ynpvisitor999> about time
12:26:02 <Jimbo Nitrogen> I've had a 30 second or so delay here, I don't know if I'm in real time now or not
12:26:17 <Dave from B> For those keeping score: 7:05 interval
12:26:20 <ynpvisitor3.14> jimbo you saw it the same time i did
12:26:34 <ynpvisitor3.14> not sure what that means but i think we are less delayed than ryan
12:26:53 <Ryan> I saw it 18s after you posted
12:27:22 <Dave from B> You set me up...I just can't do it
12:27:50 <Jimbo Nitrogen> That's good because I don't feel lagged
12:28:04 <ynpvisitor3.14> i don't feel tardy...
12:28:24 <Dave from B> insert eyeroll emoji here___________
12:28:47 <ynpvisitor3.14> those are some high spikes
12:32:49 <Ryan> Awww
12:32:58 <Ryan> Thought it stopped
12:33:09 <Ryan> I think it tried
12:34:18 <Dave from B> It's fun to watch Grand's increased energy around the 7-9 minute mark even if it doesn't completely stop
12:35:05 <ynpvisitor999> it's still trying to do a 2nd
12:35:19 <ynpvisitor56> or not
12:37:00 <Ryan> Nice full 12m
12:37:26 <ynpvisitor3.14> quite a long duration. that start looked huge to me.
12:37:31 <Ryan> ok, lunch time and errand time.... brb
12:37:45 <Ryan(afk)> Oh, it does that. ;)
12:38:12 <ynpvisitor999> Grand T1Q/11m30s
12:38:24 <Ryan(afk)> I was routinely and forcefully told in 2014 that everything I saw someone else had seen.
12:38:51 <Betty> LC ie
12:52:47 <Dave from B> Montana just issued a statewide air quality alert for today
13:03:11 <ynpvisitor56> only West Yellowstone has clean air
13:03:39 <ynpvisitor999> due to an out-of-hand BBQ?
13:24:06 <Dave from B> Daisy ie
14:39:16 <ynpvisitor56> swaying cam
14:39:43 <ynpvisitor56> it is crazy they did not put the new cam on a stable pole
14:42:35 <Betty> LC ie
14:43:59 <Eric> Not so crazy...all the cables were already run to the tree and it is a little more aesthetically pleasing then a pole.
14:44:21 <Eric> But agree a pole would be better IMHO :-D
14:45:10 <Kevin L™> It took two months to get a new one into the old housing. Need I say anymore?
14:45:13 <Dave from B> I see Polly has returned
14:46:06 <Eric> Say more Kevin :-P
14:46:14 <Eric> Kevin want a cracker?
14:48:14 <Kevin L™> I pole is much harder to put in than a new cam in an old housing. We would still be waiting.
14:49:01 <ynpvisitor56> it would have been a good upgrade
14:50:04 <Eric> We would still be waiting on the environmental impact plan :-P
14:50:41 <Kevin L™> Yep
14:51:51 <Eric> But don't mind the backhoe trouncing through the basin! Nothing to see here...a board member for the foundation wants it for publicity.
14:51:57 <Kevin L™> It would not be a top priority project either.
14:57:23 <ynpvisitor116> Of ie
14:58:37 <Dave from B> YF is starting a huge campaign for 150th anniversary of YNP. Forget how how much money they are trying to raise
15:00:52 <Eric> Donate and join the board dave...best way to get your voice heard about new webcams needed :-)
15:06:35 <Dave from B> Eric, I don't even have enough time to run my own business. The more people I hire the more mistakes I correct everyday. I'm about ready to retire early like Kevin.
15:07:56 <Eric> :-) The fun of owning your own business
15:10:32 <Ryan(afk)> Dave
15:10:48 <Ryan(afk)> tell Becca I took her suggestion of the Chai tea latte from Starbucks - solid 11/10
15:11:22 <Kevin L™> I didn't retire early. I did it right on time. I just PLANNED early to do it! Something my kids don't understand.
15:12:20 <Dave from B> haha Ryan...didn't realize Becca gave coffee/tea advice
15:12:45 <Dave from B> Not sure I can make it another 5.5 years until I'm 60, Kevin
15:13:19 <ynpvisitor102> They had a latte talk about it one night.
15:14:25 <Dave from B> haha 102
15:17:56 <Betty> headed out
15:18:01 <Betty> night all
15:18:23 <Ryan(afk)> Last night I think
15:18:52 <Kevin L™> I looked at my relatives and saw how they all got creaky about 60. Decided that I wanted to have a bit of time to play so put enough money away to get out early. By the time I left I was haviong problems getting into the F-250 that I drove, not to mention crawling in and out of the ditches.
15:19:00 <Kevin L™> Night Betty
15:20:10 <Ryan(afk)> Castle
15:20:14 <Ryan(afk)> 1520
15:20:32 <Ryan(afk)> Glad to see I can pick out a major at 0 dark 30 lol
15:28:07 <Ryan(afk)> Dave she gives great tea advice haha, I was suggesting sweet lattes
15:28:40 <Dave from B> I've been trying to get her in this room for years. Glad she finally found us
15:28:54 <Ryan(afk)> Haha
15:29:49 <Dave from B> She isn't that stubborn high school kid anymore
15:30:26 <Ryan(afk)> College does that, what is she going for?
15:34:07 <Dave from B> Secondary education...more than likely Chemistry.
15:34:27 <Dave from B> She is already observing in a middle school classroom twice a week
15:34:49 <Ryan(afk)> Nice!!
15:37:18 <Ryan(afk)> Thats awesome
15:40:57 <Ryan(afk)> I think we have a major...
15:42:25 <Dave from B> She also would like to work seasonally at YNP as a naturalist...preferably UGB. I think she is hoping to spend one of her college summers there.
15:43:21 <Ryan(afk)> Who can blame her.
15:46:23 <Ryan(afk)> Off for dinner, meetings, and the night.
15:46:25 <Ryan(afk)> Later all.
15:46:33 <Ryan(afk)> Its been an enjoyable 28hrs on here haha
15:48:39 <Dave from B> About time you leave, Ryan!:D
15:48:55 <Dave from B> Have a good one....I'm also outta here. Have a great evening everyone!
15:49:24 <Dave from B> For you F&M watchers, tomorrow is the day!
15:49:48 <ynpvisitor56> the storm is coming
15:50:22 <Dave from B> I'm ready...time to say goodbye to smoke until next fire season
16:15:30 <Eric> Gonna be a long night for lion watchers.
16:15:40 <Eric> sorry...F&M watchers :-P
16:16:35 <ynpvisitor73> Poncho weather for them
16:19:28 <Eric> hopefully it doesn't snow on them
16:56:19 <Joe> Dome
16:57:47 <Joe> Daisy
17:16:04 <Eric> oh nice...f&m - everything ON
17:18:09 <Eric> Lion is a bubbling
17:19:22 <Eric> so is that roof or kitten back there across from NG?
17:19:38 <Eric> pushing a lot of steam right now
18:21:00 <ynpvisitor91> OF
18:36:34 <ynpvisitor91> is that steam from churn?
18:42:40 <ynpvisitor91> Churn confirmed by DaveM. Cool!
18:53:05 <Kevin L™> Looks a bit damp out there.
19:09:55 <ynpvisitor91> rain swollen runoff channels...what a cloudburst.
19:10:24 <Kevin L™> Go Aurum!
19:10:44 <ynpvisitor91> hope it wakes up
19:44:55 <Graham> Hello, no BH or Grand?
19:45:02 <Kevin L™> Soggy?
19:45:21 <Graham> Nice to see Churn rwport, maybe others will come back
19:45:34 <Kevin L™> Run! You have time!
19:45:38 <Graham> Stayed dry but it did come down hard with hail too
19:46:11 <Graham> From the puddles it was the biggest F&M ever
19:46:47 <Graham> Eating now
19:47:25 <Kevin L™> You eat in the park?
19:50:31 <ynpvisitor20> Did Grand erupt?
19:51:08 <ynpvisitor20> No Turban since 1921
19:55:48 <Graham> Don't think so
19:56:17 <Graham> They may have quit with waves and no eruption
19:57:08 <Graham> Eating at the lodge cafeteria. It's just closing for the night
19:57:37 <ynpvisitor61> Has it improved any?
19:57:58 <Graham> Nope
19:58:07 <ynpvisitor61> darn.
19:58:28 <Graham> But having been out in the rain anything is good
19:58:34 <Graham> Grand
19:58:37 <ynpvisitor61> True.
19:59:10 <ynpvisitor91> Grand steam cloud?
19:59:30 <Graham> 1958 call on radio
19:59:49 <ynpvisitor61> Man that's some amazing light.
20:05:50 <Graham> Raining at lodge. Maybe. Or at Grand
20:07:55 <Graham> Maybe not at Grand
20:08:42 <Graham> Not going to watch for water in the indicator
20:09:09 <Kevin L™> Nice 2nd
20:09:53 <Graham> I can't see it from my cabin. Glad they got 2 tho
20:13:52 <Graham> So just 1 churn today? I saw weak Tardy yesterday
20:19:49 <ynpvisitor113> Graham should clean those spots off.
20:20:34 <ynpvisitor108> is that indy or bee steam?
20:21:00 <ynpvisitor113> ?
20:21:19 <Kevin L™> Probably
20:22:08 <ynpvisitor113> 1/4 hour will tell
20:22:41 <Kevin L™> o Indy on GT
20:23:32 <ynpvisitor113> o or no
20:23:46 <Kevin L™> No
20:24:36 <ynpvisitor113> Any one know what temp smoked trout needs to be to be safe to take out?
20:25:15 <ynpvisitor108> BH
20:25:21 <ynpvisitor113> bh or lon
20:25:52 <Eric> nobody must be out there...nothing posted
20:26:35 <Eric> could be either
20:27:39 <ynpvisitor113> I think it was lion
20:28:32 <ynpvisitor113> spit cone
20:28:42 <Kevin L™> Looks like a Lion.
20:29:28 <ynpvisitor113> To ad fun, I think I saw north google
20:29:34 <Eric> Yes, I was leaning lion too
20:29:48 <Eric> You have very sharp eyes :-P
20:31:09 <ynpvisitor113> Thought I saw a second steam, but just making a note for Dave when he looks later.
20:31:26 <Kevin L™> Moonrise 0051 tonight
20:32:19 <ynpvisitor113> 145 for smoked trout. Time to go stick one
20:38:37 <ynpvisitor113> Well it is hard smoked. Hope it is good.
20:48:14 <ynpvisitor113> River side?
21:36:00 <Kevin L™> Snow in Alberta
21:36:24 <ynpvisitor113> You going?
21:36:39 <Kevin L™> Nope
21:36:53 <Kevin L™> Causes cancer
21:37:07 <ynpvisitor113> Alberta?
21:37:23 <Kevin L™> Snow
21:51:35 <ynpvisitor117> I think Lion just finished
21:51:43 <ynpvisitor117> another eruption
21:52:13 <ynpvisitor117> There was a flashlight on it and I was trying to figure out if it was Beehive
21:52:46 <ynpvisitor113> I can not see much of nothen. Time to give up.
21:56:39 <ynpvisitor117> Looks like the basin is getting as much lightning as we are
21:58:01 <Kevin L™> Someone at BH
22:02:14 <ynpvisitor117> well have a good evening
22:02:22 <ynpvisitor117> I hope they get bee soon
22:02:39 <ynpvisitor117> Not a place to hang out during a lightning storm