Showing logs for date: 2015-08-14
15:15:12 <Dave from B> Time to head to GH......BH is coming
16:00:57 <Kevin L> I see Aurum finally went yesterday.
16:10:10 <Kevin L> Grand was D0/G1C
16:21:53 <Dave from B> Morning does it know I'm away?
16:22:35 <Kevin L> Just like BH knew about bus duty.
16:23:20 <Kevin L> It was mostly steam anyway.
16:26:20 <Dave from B> BH, I'm not really here
16:38:56 <Kevin L> I don't think anyone is really here right now.
16:46:51 <Kevin L> Lion
16:50:35 <Dave from B> missed another one
16:56:59 <Jimbo> Nice OF/Lion dual play
16:57:38 <Kevin L> Lion is reallly strange lately.
16:57:43 <Jimbo> Groblong steam over the trees?
17:01:05 <Kevin L> Looks more in the Grotto area.
17:12:55 <Dave from B> crowd at BH
17:17:18 <Kevin L> Wishful thinking.
17:19:09 <Jimbo> Riverside steam, I think
17:28:52 <Kevin L> Weather looks like it is getting bad.
18:03:09 <ynpvisitor11> Lion
18:03:17 <ynpvisitor11> ie
18:03:35 <Dave from B> 3 weeks, Eric!:)
18:03:59 <Eric(21)> Yep...I am getting super excited!
18:04:12 <Eric(21)> Been a year since I have been in the park...
18:05:05 <Eric(21)> Nice geese chillin at OF
18:09:30 <Jimbo> Goose A to Goose B: Hey, doesn't this water taste kinda funny to you? The lake does NOT taste like this.
18:10:34 <Eric(21)> Animals seem to be in more tune with geo activity...I wonder if they take off right before OF erupts.
18:16:14 <Eric(21)> what geyser is that we are looking at now
18:16:15 <Eric(21)> ?
18:17:01 <Kevin L> Plate
18:17:19 <Eric(21)> thanks Kevin L
18:20:12 <Dave from B> I missed another one?
18:20:21 <Dave from B> Surprised I haven't missed BH yet.
18:21:37 <Kevin L> Just let us know next time you leave.
18:22:11 <kc (working)> dep 1020 gt
18:26:53 <Craig> OF
18:26:58 <Dave from B> Yeah...a geyser
18:27:12 <Craig> Yay!
18:27:22 <Eric(21)> nice lighting
18:27:26 <Craig> Giantess is looking quite steamy today :)
18:27:51 <Jimbo> She's a tease, that Giantess
18:27:53 <Eric(21)> Just read about the bear killing a hiker in the park...very tragic.
18:29:46 <Kevin L> I couldn't believe the CNN update. Wonder where this person went to college. Don't want to send my kid there: UPDATE: A female grizzly bear was euthanized Thursday after an autopsy confirmed that she killed hiker Lance Crosby, 63, on Aug. 7.
18:30:51 <Craig> Anemone
18:30:54 <Craig> Big
18:31:02 <Jimbo> Yeah, nice view of Anemone
18:31:12 <Craig> 1030 correct?
18:31:24 <Dave from B> really...think before you speak! or more likely....writer needs to proofread!
18:32:31 <Eric(21)> ok...I give, what is wrong with that headline?
18:32:34 <Kevin L> It is amazing how many geysers can be seen from this camera.
18:33:02 <Craig> That steam from Giantess is really teasing me
18:33:26 <Kevin L> euthanized Thursday AFTER an autopsy
18:33:42 <Eric(21)> autopsy of the dead hiker
18:33:49 <Craig> ^
18:33:55 <Eric(21)> Not the bear!
18:34:08 <Dave from B> Kevin, I made the same mistake you did. Was thinking autopsy of bear
18:34:21 <Dave from B> oops :D
18:34:22 <Craig> LC 1034 ie
18:34:42 <Kevin L> How would an autospy of a hiker confirm that was the bear?
18:34:53 <Eric(21)> whoo, I thought I was going blind :-) and I do have a journalism degree :-P
18:35:07 <Eric(21)> Bite marks on the hiker
18:35:17 <Eric(21)> They matched the dental marks of the bear
18:35:45 <Eric(21)> or what was left of the hiker
18:35:54 <Eric(21)> pretty "grizzly" scene
18:35:55 <Dave from B> I was thinking DNA match
18:36:03 <Eric(21)> also DNA Dave
18:37:03 <Kevin L> They could do both without an autospy.
18:37:03 <Craig> Should be getting a BH soon?
18:37:10 <Eric(21)> The story is pretty sad for the person and the grizzly and cubs.
18:37:29 <Kevin L> For sure Eric. No winners there.
18:38:14 <Dave from B> Yes, no winners...but I'm getting tired of hearing criticism of the NPS in this case.
18:39:14 <Kevin L> What makes me nervous is the increase of bear sightings in the UGB.
18:39:54 <Dave from B> I'm not sure if the latest victim wwas jogging, but joggers ANYWHERE is YNP make me nervous. I would never jog in YNP.
18:40:02 <Kevin L> Makes night gazing a bit iffy.
18:41:11 <Eric(21)> shhhh, don't tell my wife that Kevin!
18:42:00 <Eric(21)> She is already freaked out enough about night gazing and bison...
18:42:33 <Kevin L> Even wolves make me more nervous than in the past. If they can take down a fast bison a slow old man hasn't got a chance.
18:42:35 <ynpvisitor40> he was not jogging
18:43:10 <Eric(21)> He seemed like a very experienced YNP employee
18:43:28 <Kevin L> He was on the medical staff.
18:44:27 <Eric(21)> Dave, I think the Park service is doing an excellent job of handling this situation. They didn't knee jerk and are letting their bear management team make the call.
18:45:24 <Dave from B> Education would have prevented this most...hike in group of 3 or more...bring bear spray
18:46:31 <Kevin L> He seemed to be educated, he just ignored all the thing he should not do. A lesson to be learned by us.
18:46:46 <Eric(21)> I have to assume he knew the risks...
18:47:00 <Eric(21)> AGree Kevin
18:47:16 <Dave from B> The trouble is he may have done the same thing 100 hundred times on the same trail and nothing bad happened. You then can get a false sense of security.
18:48:04 <Kevin L> Just like crossing train tracks. Only takes one time being careless.
18:50:07 <Kevin L> Lightning storms are the same story. I got caught in one by Artemesia that scared me big time. I avoid being out there during any shot at a storm.
18:51:23 <ynpvisitor40> here's a good thoughtful read -
18:51:24 <ynpvisitor40> .
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18:51:32 <ynpvisitor40> .
18:52:07 <Kevin L> Speaking of that we had one of those little micro storms here yesterday that really kicked butt. Washed out roads and took out 27 power poles along with lots of other electrical things. I was lucky and only lost power for about an hour. My Dad live a couple of block from me and didn't have power for over 8 hours.
18:52:51 <Dave from B> wow...that doesn't sound like fun...glad you did have more damage
18:53:18 <Craig> was that spasmodic?
18:53:50 <ynpvisitor40> sorry - my posts weren't showing up. a good read on the bear story
18:53:58 <ynpvisitor40>
18:59:48 <Kevin L> That is a great writeup.
19:01:32 <ynpvisitor40> social media outcry over klling the bear really got out of hand
19:02:41 <Kevin L> This author had a lot of sense. Makes a lot of solid points.
19:03:55 <Craig> We should be getting a Lion soon if the series continues
19:05:57 <Dave from B> Wow...a really thoughtful piece. Well put
19:06:13 <Dave from B> Thank you, 40
19:10:19 <kc (working)> i think we are looking at the observation point on the mystic falls trail
19:11:08 <ynpvisitor40> you are welcome Dave from B
19:15:32 <ynpvisitor50> report of a drone on geyser hill
19:16:23 <ynpvisitor40> shoot it down!
19:16:58 <Jake> reported probable landing in the cabins
19:17:14 <kc (working)> sic an eagle on it like in that youtube video
19:17:31 <ynpvisitor40> confiscate the go pro and the toy
19:18:05 <ynpvisitor40> just watch for it this winter on youtube, their ego won't be able to resist "sharing" it
19:19:45 <Dave from B> I'm getting real tired of people who do whatever they please no matter what the rules. How can NPS educate better?
19:19:55 <ynpvisitor87> would not be Friday without the overlook
19:21:13 <Eric(21)> Thanks for the article 40...great read!
19:21:20 <Kevin L> I like the idea of community service at a NPS site. Many of them the fine doesn't have any effect. Cleaning up garbage for a week leaves a lasting impression and does good for the parks.
19:22:29 <Dave from B> But does it educate the next potential violater?
19:23:24 <Kevin L> If you post flying a drone will get you 40 hours community service, it might.
19:24:04 <Dave from B> Most can't resist posting their conquest!
19:39:35 <ynpvisitor87> how do you get the offender back to Yellowstone to serve their time?
19:39:45 <ynpvisitor87> most violations are from visitors, only here for a limited time
19:41:15 <Kevin L> NPS has sites all over the country.
19:42:15 <ynpvisitor40> the resource damage citations can be contested if you want to go to the judge, otherwise you just pay online
19:42:15 <ynpvisitor87> foreigners?
19:42:57 <ynpvisitor87> I guess we are all quitters today, Eric when is new Chat going to be ready?? Anytime soon?
19:43:05 <ynpvisitor40> did they locate the drone-er Jake?
19:43:45 <Kevin L> Out of country could pay fine.
19:43:45 <Eric(21)> while flying a drone in an area with people is dangerous and anoying, it doesn't damage resources.
19:44:06 <Eric(21)> Unless they crash it into a feature....
19:44:45 <ynpvisitor40> that is just a firm example of a case I know about. It's probably true for any fine
19:44:47 <Kevin L> Which they did in Grand Prismatic.
19:44:55 <ynpvisitor40> it is illegal, not just annoying
19:45:30 <Eric(21)> Personally I would rather them spend more time keeping people from flipping coins into features around the park. That seems like a much more prevalent, damaging issue.
19:45:47 <Dave from B> Don't drones crash 90% of the time?:)
19:45:55 <ynpvisitor87> when they only give warnings to people who walk out to OF and look into it, I am not holding my breath for any repercussions for other violations
19:46:35 <Kevin L> Very true 87
19:46:45 <ynpvisitor87> they need the coins sign in CHINESE
19:46:55 <Eric(21)> Agree 87
19:47:06 <ynpvisitor87> this has been a bad year for coins in springs
19:49:44 <Kevin L> Never been able to figure out why people do that.
19:50:16 <Eric(21)> Also start fining/banning tour operators for there parties transgressions.
19:51:00 <Eric(21)> It's a Chinese good luck thing Kevin...
19:51:06 <Eric(21)> That would keep them more vigilant!
19:51:44 <Kevin L> That one I caught on the cam the tour guide took his group out to the cone. Tour operator should have had to send out a new guide and that one should have been banned from the park.
19:52:29 <Dave from B> Yes, I beleive tour guides should be held responsible. Maybe, they could educate better!
19:54:54 <Kevin L> The frustrating thing is we end up getting banned from fun places because of the actions of these people. Can we say White Creek here?
19:55:44 <Eric(21)> White Creek here
19:55:57 <Jake> I heard some NPS radio traffic about trying to locate the drone, didn't hear any follow up
19:56:22 <Kevin L> Been watching Airplane! again Eric?
19:56:36 <ynpvisitor40> thanks Jake
19:56:55 <Eric(21)> Great Movie Kevin!
19:57:38 <Kevin L> Have you ever seen Zero Hour!?
19:57:47 <Jake> water in BHI
19:58:15 <Kevin L> Yea!
19:58:36 <Eric(21)> Thanks
19:58:51 <Eric(21)> .
19:58:52 <Eric(21)> .
19:59:10 <Kevin L> I can send txt
19:59:28 <Betty> nice timing for me :-D
19:59:55 <Kevin L> Good timing Betty
20:00:05 <Eric(21)> Hey Betty
20:00:05 <Eric(21)> Thanks for making BH happen!
20:00:11 <ynpvisitor87> hopefully cam op will see it
20:00:16 <Betty> yw
20:00:23 <Betty> yup
20:01:02 <Eric(21)> I did not quit!
20:01:13 <Dave from B> Woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:01:20 <Betty> sure you did ;-)
20:01:33 <Kevin L> Dave is even here!
20:03:51 <ynpvisitor87> like I said Eric, we need a new chat page
20:04:13 <ynpvisitor87> tiny crowd for mid day BH
20:05:02 <Dave from B> Is today "Ledge Day"?
20:07:05 <Betty> don´t think so, Dave
20:07:22 <ynpvisitor87> Ledge was only 2 days ago using the new approx guess
20:08:09 <Dave from B> Geyser Grill must be having a special
20:08:25 <Eric(21)> I hear ya 87...I have the server setup...just need to code more :-(
20:08:42 <ynpvisitor87> thanks Eric, for undertaking it
20:09:08 <Eric(21)> No Problem...I am using DigitalOcean VPS as a host so it should be nice and stable.
20:09:28 <ynpvisitor40> looks like Sun or Mon would be Ledge day
20:09:31 <Eric(21)> Decided I could pony up $5/month for a server that I am on every day :-D
20:09:44 <ynpvisitor87> nice of you, thanks
20:09:52 <ynpvisitor87> I will look forward to it
20:09:59 <Eric(21)> ya, me too
20:10:32 <Dave from B> I haven't forgot about your Montana beer either, Eric!
20:10:42 <Eric(21)> I just don't want to lose the daily archiving bits that we have here. I use them often.
20:10:57 <Betty> me too
20:14:14 <Betty> liftoff
20:14:32 <Eric(21)> BH
20:14:33 <Eric(21)> .
20:14:34 <Eric(21)> .
20:15:04 <Eric(21)> Runners....
20:15:56 <Eric(21)> What a powerful BHI
20:20:04 <Betty> LC
20:30:25 <Jimbo> Nobody said Daisy, so Daisy ie
21:04:26 <ynpvisitor62> thats a nice branch...
21:05:25 <Dave from B> looks a little dry
21:05:37 <ynpvisitor88> Looks sick to me.
21:33:43 <ynpvisitor88> I see the Seachickens are on ABC tonight Dave.
22:06:21 <Dave from B> I'll have to check out the 3rd stringers
22:07:27 <ynpvisitor88> I did notice the Packer could do what the chickens couldn't....
22:08:51 <Dave from B> really? you want to go there?:):D
22:09:34 <Betty> is the white cone in the back Pyramid? is it ie?
22:09:39 <ynpvisitor88> Not in a 12 foot skiff....
22:10:17 <Dave from B> I believe Pyramid is at the base but I may be mistaken
22:11:09 <Betty> I don´t knoe the location. was always wondering...
22:12:15 <ynpvisitor12> Pyramid Geyser erupts from a small sinter platform at the base of the large cone called the White Pyramid.
22:12:46 <Dave from B> Thanks, 12
22:12:56 <Betty> thanks, Dave and 12
22:13:59 <Betty> where can you see Pyramid Geyser from? On the way to Punchbowl?
22:18:10 <Betty> grand
22:22:15 <kc (working)> ty Betty my stream had frozen yet again
22:22:50 <Betty> ugh
22:23:08 <Betty> for this my chat is frozen
22:23:53 <Betty> yw, kc :-)
22:24:14 <ynpvisitor88> Mine is still moving
22:24:58 <ynpvisitor88> My iPad is working too.
22:26:01 <kc (working)> it wasnt offline, just stuck. happens all the time now
22:26:02 <ynpvisitor12> Pyramid can be viewed from the boardwalk on the north side of the Daisy area a little past Splendid.
22:26:06 <Betty> streaming is ok here. Only chat posts show up late
22:26:44 <Betty> thanks, 12
22:27:12 <ynpvisitor88> Posts are late here too.
22:28:26 <Betty> was that a 2nd?
22:53:37 <Betty> OF ie
22:55:54 <ynpvisitor88> Swaying to and fro....
23:24:24 <Betty> Daisy
23:27:08 <ynpvisitor88> zzzzzzzzzzzzz
23:27:08 <Eric(21)> Next Lion series around 2000
23:27:29 <ynpvisitor88> Film at 11
23:27:29 <Eric(21)> wake up Kevin
23:27:37 <Betty> I think earlier
23:27:57 <Betty> run out of NoDoz?
23:28:01 <Eric(21)> How much earlier?
23:28:57 <Betty> you try to nail me... :-p I think...................................................1643 ns
23:29:13 <ynpvisitor88> Long night last night. Lot of storms. Lightning and thunder.
23:30:16 <Betty> Castle
23:30:27 <Kevin L> How did I become a number again?
23:30:50 <Eric(21)> You have been a number all afternoon
23:31:21 <Eric(21)> probably happened while you were sleeping
23:31:54 <Kevin L> Think this computer is ready for tannerite. It has been a royal pain all week.
23:32:12 <Kevin L> Looks like a gian seed pod....
23:32:21 <Kevin L> giant
23:32:43 <Betty> you quit as Kevin at 1246 and came back as 88 at 1259
23:33:18 <Kevin L> Hadn't even noticed it.
23:33:48 <Dave from B> Time for more fitness. Have a great evening everyone!
23:34:13 <Betty> have a nice workout
23:34:13 <Kevin L> Don't trip over a grizzly Dave.
23:34:46 <Dave from B> None around here...did hear a fox howl last night however
23:42:55 <kc (working)> castle could use a gt entry. 1530ns ?
23:43:17 <Betty> it was the start
23:44:12 <kc (working)> nm just went up thanks to volcanochick (nice)
23:57:39 <Andrew> Hello
23:57:58 <Betty> hi Andrew
23:59:59 <Eric(21)> hello
00:24:26 <Betty> night all
01:42:23 <captbunzo> Hello
01:43:08 <captbunzo> Anyone around?
01:44:38 <Eric(21)> hey paul
01:44:49 <Eric(21)> Long time no see :-)
01:45:16 <captbunzo> I pop in from time to time.
01:45:47 <Eric(21)> I have been meaning to contact you...I have started working on a new chat page.
01:45:52 <captbunzo> I've just surfaced after a helluva busy week at work
01:46:01 <captbunzo> Yes, kcmule tells me.
01:46:38 <captbunzo> Frankly, I'd really rather you coordinate that with me instead of splintering something off on your own.
01:46:49 <Eric(21)> Using a little more modern websocket approach with node
01:46:57 <captbunzo> I've maintained and supported this for about a decade now
01:47:13 <Eric(21)> No problem....I am totally flexible :-)
01:47:21 <captbunzo> I'm all for something more modern and making it better, for the record
01:47:41 <Eric(21)> I didn't want to step on your toes and wouldn't have pushed forward further without talking to you.
01:47:54 <Eric(21)> But I know you have been very busy
01:47:54 <captbunzo> And also FULLY acknowledge that the current page is long overdue for a rewrite
01:48:12 <captbunzo> More toes are fairly soft
01:48:35 <captbunzo> But while busy, I'll always make time to at least coordinate our efforts
01:48:58 <captbunzo> You see, there is already a loose plan in place for a new page
01:49:03 <Eric(21)> Sounds good..I lost your email address at some point
01:49:49 <captbunzo> However, if you have time and are capable of getting stuff done as a computer geek, you can maybe jump on board that plan
01:50:02 <captbunzo>
01:50:05 <Eric(21)> k
01:51:37 <Eric(21)> I also have infrastructure available that I have setup for just this purpose if yours is getting a little overloaded.
01:51:45 <captbunzo> First, the host can't possibly be the source of any problems with the page
01:52:17 <Eric(21)> Ok...welll GT and this chat both go to crap simultaneously
01:52:17 <captbunzo> It is quite powerful dedicated server, 8-16 cores with something like 32 GB of ram
01:52:39 <captbunzo> Ah. See that's information I've not been given before.
01:53:04 <captbunzo> How often does this happen?
01:53:24 <Eric(21)> Bad database queries can bring a server of that size to it's knees :-D
01:53:25 <captbunzo> And is it at specific times of the day?
01:53:50 <captbunzo> I am aware of such things, I do bug data stuff for a living
01:54:11 <Eric(21)> I do software engineering as well :-)
01:54:19 <captbunzo> The only other thing of consequence that the server hosts is my Minecraft server
01:54:40 <captbunzo> Good, that should make it easier to talk about this stuff.
01:54:43 <Eric(21)> with my limited information...I am guessing it's GT queries
01:54:53 <captbunzo> I see two obvious possibilities.
01:55:16 <Eric(21)> It only started happening after GT moved over there.
01:55:36 <captbunzo> 1. Disk contention ... Potentially from the 4x a day Minecraft server backup
01:55:53 <captbunzo> 2. DB contention
01:56:03 <captbunzo> Are you sure about that?
01:56:14 <captbunzo> The timing with GT moving over?
01:56:33 <Eric(21)> That is my current recollection.
01:56:42 <captbunzo> And when it happens, how long is it in effect?
01:57:02 <Eric(21)> usually in the minutes range of time
01:57:09 <captbunzo> Hmmnn...
01:57:17 <Eric(21)> sometimes it goes longer
01:57:58 <Eric(21)> I assume you are using mysql
01:58:20 <Eric(21)> you could just check the long running queries log and see if there is anything obvious in there.
01:59:52 <captbunzo> So I have 4 separate instances of mysql running on the box. That's to sandbox different things happening.
02:00:09 <captbunzo> Right now camchat is in the GT mysql instance.
02:00:38 <captbunzo> I should move it to the captbunzo MySQL instance and see if that helps.
02:01:00 <Eric(21)> it possibly could...but I am guessing that the box is cpu pegged
02:01:07 <Eric(21)> when this happens
02:01:21 <captbunzo> I think it is unlikely that the box is being brung to its knees, but quite possibly that that mysql instance is.
02:01:33 <kcmule> cool. friday evening tech talk
02:01:39 <Eric(21)> :-)
02:01:47 <Eric(21)> OF
02:01:56 <captbunzo> I am very doubtful that the box is being brought to a standstill.
02:02:02 <Eric(21)> ok
02:02:12 <Eric(21)> well, it should be easy to see if you are monitoring it at all
02:02:42 <captbunzo> It could be. But for instance I'm having no complaint from my Minecraft players.
02:03:03 <kcmule> fwiw i dont use GT or the streaming cam on this page, only the chat and i experience the delays
02:03:09 <Eric(21)> hmmm, they would definitely know it
02:03:19 <captbunzo> If it was box wide, I'd expect some complaints from them. (and they are very vocal)
02:03:27 <Eric(21)> Ya, the cam is driven from a different service kc
02:04:00 <Eric(21)> I hear ya, my daughter and I ran a server for a while, so I know the lag feel :-D
02:04:01 <captbunzo> Yep. Cam is coming in directly from the NPS servers
02:04:50 <kcmule> i meant delays in the chat
02:05:00 <kcmule> when i hit enter and it takes up to 2 mins to show up
02:05:09 <captbunzo> As an experiment, I'll move the chat db to a separate MySQL instance today (because that's easy to try)
02:05:33 <captbunzo> I'm in Australia, so I can do that overnight USA time.
02:06:05 <captbunzo> How often does the problem occur with the chat?
02:06:31 <captbunzo> Hourly, daily, weekly?
02:06:53 <kcmule> maybe once a day, more lately
02:07:11 <captbunzo> And are you Linux competent, Eric?
02:08:03 <captbunzo> If so, I could setup an account on the box for you to poke around.
02:09:26 <Eric(21)> Live work and breath linux :-)
02:09:34 <captbunzo> Good then
02:09:42 <Eric(21)> I shot you an email
02:09:43 <captbunzo> Interested in access to the box?
02:09:47 <captbunzo> Boom
02:09:52 <Eric(21)> sure
02:09:58 <captbunzo> What kind of programming do you do?
02:10:12 <Eric(21)> I can at least look at the box and see when performance is lagging
02:10:31 <Eric(21)> 20 years as a software engineer, so I have done the gambit :-)
02:10:53 <Eric(21)> I mainly work for startups out of the Bay Area
02:10:57 <captbunzo> Very good. Longer then me then. I'm about 14-15 years in.
02:11:11 <captbunzo> Anything in modern web stuff?
02:11:32 <captbunzo> Because that's NOT what I do and what the page drastically needs help from. :)
02:11:34 <Eric(21)> Pretty much all I do now...full stack
02:11:41 <captbunzo> Good stuff.
02:25:32 <ynpvisitor24> ..
03:36:49 <kcmule> OF
03:42:33 <kcmule> weather moving in
04:02:44 <ynpvisitor62> my streaming went down
04:11:40 <kcmule> back up now. lion 2005ie on gt
04:24:56 <KevinL iPad> Brilliant sunset
04:26:14 <kcmule> nice, and a light show
04:26:18 <kcmule> daisy ie
04:26:20 <ynpvisitor62> Could not agree more Kevin! I would not have even caught that if i hadn't heard the notification sound so thanks for that!
04:27:16 <KevinL iPad> Daisy
04:27:57 <KevinL iPad> Wicked lightning bolts.
04:28:27 <ynpvisitor62> WOW!
04:29:40 <kcmule> coming right at us
04:34:34 <KevinL iPad> Bet power goes out.
04:37:23 <KevinL iPad> We got hit with one of those yesterday. Roads washed out, power down for upto 20 hours. More coming now.
05:01:44 <kcmule> OF
05:03:10 <kcmule> grand
05:05:10 <KevinL iPad> Bet there aren't many people at Grand