22:51:24
<ynpvisitor81> lots of lightning
04:22:34
<ynpvisitor29> I hope those people out on OldFaithful are there for official business.
04:50:32
<David A pdx> good morning!
04:55:19
<David A pdx> OF! ie
05:12:22
<David A pdx> Lion
05:17:27
<Dave from B> Good morning. Please don't tell me we had conewalkers this morning.:(
05:18:10
<David A pdx> i didn't see them...
05:18:49
<David A pdx> Good Morning Dave!
05:20:00
<David A pdx> LC ie
05:20:12
<ynpvisitor74> They were working with the thermal monitor.
05:21:08
<ynpvisitor74> It looks like they were in uniform
05:21:15
<Dave from B> Good, Thanks 74
05:21:32
<David A pdx> breathing a sigh of relief!
05:21:57
<David A pdx> all we need is another incident. the guy at Norris was from Portland.OR
05:22:42
<David A pdx> Is Norris re-opened?
05:25:13
<ynpvisitor30> yes-there are times posted yesterday
05:25:29
<David A pdx> cool. thanks.
05:26:05
<Dave from B> I will claim responsibility for the posts here last night calling for nps or volunteer personnel at all thermal locations. We need to protect the resource as well as people who can't protect themselves. Mr Warnock also encouraged getting politicians involved in a FB post as well.
05:27:27
<David A pdx> Good! Thanks Dave
05:28:45
<David A pdx> When I was there in 2013 I was not too terribly surprised to see hats, shoes, brochures, and cigarette butts in features.
05:29:03
<David A pdx> Some items could have been blown away, but others?
05:29:16
<ynpvisitor30> cleanup of features is another issue
05:29:40
<David A pdx> full time job, best left to the professionals...
05:30:39
<David A pdx> i'd love spending a week-month doing volunteer work - if there were volunteer housing.
05:32:53
<Dave from B> That's why I feel a solution should include gazers
05:34:50
<David A pdx> Sprinkler ie (?)
05:38:30
<David A pdx> one of the Anemones ie
05:57:49
<ynpvisitor8> What happened at Norris?
05:58:23
<ynpvisitor74> https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/news/16032.htm
05:58:31
<ynpvisitor74> read that
05:58:50
<ynpvisitor74> That way I won't make mistakes answering your question
05:59:13
<ynpvisitor8> Thanks!
06:00:34
<Dave from B> In case others don't know. Yesterday it was revealed that 6 people walked off bw at Grand Prismatic recently. Reported on FB from a Great Falls poster with video
06:01:32
<ynpvisitor30> I see more and more railings in our future
06:01:54
<ynpvisitor8> Oh my gosh, that's horrible! Plus I see reference to a father and son suffering burns at UG. So sad when stuff like that is preventable.
06:02:13
<Dave from B> 30, that most definitely is going to happen.
06:02:56
<Dave from B> I've told Becca that days a sitting at Oblong dangling feet over the edge will be gone very soon.
06:09:37
<David A pdx> When I visit in the near future I want to see Daisy and Giant. I have yet to see them in person.
06:09:42
<Dave from B> Castle 0809ie
06:09:54
<David A pdx> oh, and Lion too.
06:10:10
<Dave from B> 67% of your wish will come true, David
06:11:00
<David A pdx> LOL! Daisy and Giant?
06:11:47
<David A pdx> yes, i would be happy with 2 of the 3, plus maybe a surprise from an unexpected surprise!
06:11:55
<Dave from B> I would suggest replacgin Giant with F&M. Then you may get to 100%
06:12:09
<David A pdx> OH, I meant Grand.
06:12:18
<David A pdx> ah cool!
06:12:45
<David A pdx> wishful thinking on Giant.
06:13:21
<Mike J> Many of us casual visitors (once a year) are still hoping to see Giant and F&M
06:14:36
<Mike J> Missed Giant by one day. Missed F&M by 30 minutes.
06:15:07
<Dave from B> Hi, Mike J. Me, too!:)
06:15:25
<David A pdx> i'm afraid I'll be in Lamar looking at wolves, while Giant/Giantess/Steamboat goes off...
06:15:47
<Mike J> Hi Dave from B. I would have thought you had done better than that.
06:17:25
<Mike J> And a good morning (depending on where you reside) to eveyrone else.
06:17:49
<David A pdx> Morning Mike!
06:18:09
<Dave from B> Mike, I've seen 2 Giants and 0 F&M's
06:18:29
<Dave from B> I visit the park about 8 days a year...still takes getting lucky on the biggies
06:19:12
<David A pdx> still a crap shoot on the big ones - even if you spend all year!
06:21:20
<Mike J> My biggest heartbreak was F&M. Late in the year, not much of anyone around. I stuck around to watch the play after Daisy went off. Then wandered over to F&M only to find out if I had gone straight over, i would have seen it.
06:21:47
<ynpvisitor100> Build a time machine. Join the Washburn expedition and see all the above in the space of two days.(except Steamboat.
06:22:07
<David A pdx> Daisy
06:23:54
<Dave from B> 100, Sometimes it is hard to buy that Expedition saw most of the biggies on a short trip.
06:24:03
<Dave from B> legally, that is
06:25:43
<David A pdx> fair amount of people heading in to park via west entrance.
06:30:13
<David A pdx> current Castle would be considered a major ?
06:30:31
<David A pdx> OF ie
06:30:51
<Dave from B> Beautiful
06:31:09
<Mike J> Thiknk those people running to Old Faithful would run that hard if they saw Beehive Indicator?
06:31:20
<David A pdx> probably not
06:31:26
<Mike J> Sorry. A little snarky for this early in a nice day.
06:31:55
<David A pdx> no prob.
06:33:09
<Dave from B> Lion 0833
06:40:48
<ynpvisitor100> "OF Indicator" back to zero. (No peeps)
06:41:44
<Biddle> Hi all
06:47:20
<David A pdx> Hej Biddle!
06:50:38
<govixen> hey Jake etc
06:50:54
<govixen> Dave from B, you coming soon?
06:51:45
<Dave from B> Hi, GV....July 8
06:52:37
<govixen> -getting calendar- how many days?
06:53:00
<Dave from B> 5 nights most likely maybe 6
06:53:22
<govixen> got it, I'll try to "run into you"
06:53:56
<Dave from B> Do you have any plans during that time?
06:54:05
<govixen> Yesterday I had someone who wanted to see geysers, she had seen my FB posts but only knows OF
06:55:05
<govixen> here's our day- you wil dig it! We left Idaho Falls - and saw Great Fountain, Fountain, Pink Cone, Beehive, Grand, 2 Lions, Whirligi and a few Vixens
06:55:42
<govixen> AND she made it to a board meeting back in Bozeman by 7pm. Good day, huh!
06:57:21
<Dave from B> wow
06:57:28
<Dave from B> Did we get a new convert!:)
06:57:34
<Dave from B> ?:)
06:58:09
<govixen> she already knew she wanted more, just didn't know where to start. She really gets it now!!!
06:59:00
<Dave from B> That is a great gazing day
06:59:13
<ynpvisitor67> Missed Daisy and Riverside, She has something to come back for. Even Castle and Grotto.
06:59:16
<David A pdx> boy, that is a day of geysers! sweet! and congrats!
07:00:17
<govixen> Beehive was perfection, but she really loved Lion up close and personal
07:00:19
<Dave from B> Better than those days where you wait 34 hours for Grand and 4 hours for Lion initial and see 3 geysers all day
07:00:29
<David A pdx> i was on cloud 9 with just Castle, Sawmill, and Beehive! My Dad was a beekeeper, and my parents were engaged iin YNP.
07:00:31
<Dave from B> haha 3 or 4, take your pick
07:01:37
<govixen> I told her we would try for those 4 and be happy if we got Beehive and MAYBE one other
07:02:33
<Dave from B> Govixen, such a tragedy at Norris. Where you there during the accident/investigation
07:02:45
<ynpvisitor67> Meet a family from Germany in Wyoming tht was headed to the park. Told them where to see Moose in the Big Horns on the way to the park. Also said don't be tourists and just see OF. Said to look at the board in the visitors center for other guysers times. I said they can see OF anytime as it goes off about every hour and a half.
07:03:15
<govixen> I was in a workshop in ID Falls - boy did my phone start lighting up
07:03:17
<ynpvisitor67> They got home and am waiting for their computer to get fixed so he can email more details of the trip. They did see Moose.
07:04:53
<govixen> my friend saw OF from Lion and said "wow that is a much cooler view"
07:05:13
<Biddle> While i was at Zion's i had a kid try to convince me that OF was "the biggest ever"
07:05:49
<govixen> Gotta go spring my dogs from boarding - thought I'd tell you my awesome "geyser commute" home yesterday
07:07:15
<David A pdx> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ujelang/3635006617/in/album-72157594398530735/
07:07:22
<Biddle> Haha! IK just found a box in my shop labeled "Fans and Motors"
07:07:29
<David A pdx> a picture of my parents in 1948 at the Grand Canyon
07:08:21
<Dave from B> Haha Biddle...only a gazer would think something else was in that box
07:17:39
<Dave from B> Morning Jenna
07:21:45
<Jenna> morning Dave
07:22:02
<Biddle> Hi Kevin, Jenna
07:22:10
<Dave from B> Morning Kevin
07:23:38
<Jenna> hi Biddle
07:23:54
<Jenna> back to work full time now so I'll have more time for the cam :)
07:24:16
<Kevin iPad> Morning.
07:28:17
<Kevin iPad> Getting back to normal Jenna?
07:30:52
<Jenna> the new normal, yes haha
07:31:20
<Biddle> 'morning kc
07:32:12
<Biddle> afk
07:39:34
<kc (working)> mornin
07:39:49
<David A pdx> well, i've got to get going. Have a good day, and enjoy the geysers!
07:50:46
<Biddle> haha! meant to typ afk in my nickname... woops
07:50:53
<Kevin iPad> Jim o is expensive today
08:37:56
<Dave from B> ..
08:39:16
<Dave from B> GRAND 1039ns
08:39:47
<Eric> Hey Dave
08:40:17
<Eric> Someone was out on BW last night 15 minutes before BH...then they left :-(
08:40:36
<Eric> So sad
08:40:51
<Biddle> Hi Eric
08:40:58
<Eric> Hey Biddle
08:40:58
<Dave from B> Hi, Eric
08:41:18
<Jimbo Platinum> Very visible Grand
08:41:23
<Eric> The lightning show was pretty cool last night too
08:42:11
<Mike J> Clear days and beautiful eruptions make me long for a visit.
08:42:59
<Dave from B> Mike J, any plans to visit this year?
08:45:43
<Eric> settle down for a double or triple :-D
08:45:50
<Mike J> It looks like this will be the first year I miss in quite a while.
08:46:12
<Mike J> Been giving myself a Father's Day trip as a present, but some other travel is getting in the way.
08:46:30
<Mike J> Might accidently squeeze in at end of season, but that's a long shot.
08:48:56
<Biddle> 8 min first... prepare for 2nd!
08:49:04
<Eric> yep
08:49:14
<Eric> well, we are at 10 actually
08:49:25
<Eric> but very good chance
08:49:28
<Eric> boom
08:49:28
<Biddle> ooh. my clock is off again
08:49:29
<Jimbo Platinum> Yeah
08:49:37
<Biddle> yuesss!
08:49:41
<Mike J> nice!
08:49:52
<Biddle> hehe that spelling!
08:49:55
<Jimbo Platinum> Now that's what I call a 2nd burst
08:50:02
<Biddle> 3rd?
08:50:09
<Eric> probably not
08:50:21
<Eric> but it could :-P
08:50:29
<Mike J> If it weren't for wishful thinking, I wouldn't have any thinking at all
08:50:45
<Eric> I think it's done
08:52:48
<Kevin iPad> Time for Aurum!
08:52:59
<Dave from B> You going to the dentist?
08:53:54
<Kevin iPad> Maybe the dmv
08:55:24
<Kevin iPad> Also have to teach son in law about Harbor Freight Tools.
08:55:58
<Eric> Teach him some are real garbage :-P
08:56:13
<Jake> like don't pull on them too hard?
08:56:17
<Eric> But all fun to look at
08:56:32
<Eric> Hey Jake
08:56:35
<Jake> if you're going to the DMV, that gives us a 5 - 6 hour window for Aurum which doesn't really help that much
08:57:02
<Biddle> I got a reciprocating saw at harbor freight, lasted all of 5 minutes.
08:58:13
<Kevin iPad> This is Idaho dmv. They seem nice here and don't have the nazis there like Nevada does.
08:58:16
<Eric> Yes, I would never buy anything electronic from harbor frieght.
08:58:48
<Eric> Hey jake....have you ever used IFTTT?
08:59:21
<Dave from B> haha Jake
08:59:22
<Biddle> They are a great source of clamps and superglue
08:59:34
<Biddle> or CA glue, as some say
08:59:50
<Eric> The jacks and mechanical stuff aren't too bad either
09:00:06
<Kevin iPad> There are tools that they have that are great and some that aren't. I have been using a lathe I got there for over 5 years. It is great.
09:00:25
<Eric> it's mechanical...no electronics right?
09:00:31
<Kevin iPad> heading out. Bbl.
09:00:33
<Biddle> they have some flashlights that are junk, but when you consider that you paid $1.50 for it...
09:00:37
<Eric> cya
09:00:46
<Biddle> bye Kevin
09:06:58
<Dave from B> Time for our daily BH prediction....
09:07:26
<Biddle> it will go at 4
09:07:48
<Biddle> i mean 1600 :P
09:07:51
<Dave from B> BH 1415-1615
09:08:28
<Eric> Haha...I was going to say the exact same prediction :-)
09:08:38
<Eric> 15:15 was my calculated time
09:08:44
<Dave from B> I've been surprised to generally see shorter intervals look at last 20 on GT. A slight trend downward on intervals
09:09:08
<Dave from B> We can be wrong together, Eric!
09:09:35
<Dave from B> It is due to throw in a longer interval but never now when
09:09:43
<Dave from B> know*
09:14:03
<Dave from B> Prediction for evening Grand: 1700-1830...don't be late..most likely will go early in window
09:18:21
<Eric> That prediction looks like it's based off the median time.
09:22:52
<Dave from B> intervals have been shortening; may even go before my window
09:25:13
<Eric> I kinda doubt that
09:25:19
<Eric> but you never know
09:26:19
<Dave from B> If I was a betting man, I would agree with you, Eric
09:45:14
<ynpvisitor1> Grand is fooling people. It will be back to its 9 hour late day interval today
09:46:06
<Biddle> is anyones stream down?
09:46:12
<ynpvisitor1> mine is
09:46:19
<ynpvisitor1> bummer, just got on
09:48:28
<Dave from B> x
09:48:41
<Eric> You broke it?
09:49:17
<Eric> working
09:49:47
<Eric> Camera or router there got rebooted
09:50:09
<Dave from B> big crowd
09:50:45
<Biddle> i prefer to wait for OF at BH or Lion
09:51:02
<Dave from B> I prefer after 10 pm
09:51:18
<Eric> I prefer before 6am :-)
09:51:49
<Eric> I loved making my morning coffee and sitting on the lodge rock wall watching it go :-)
09:52:04
<Dave from B> I forgot to finish my sentence
09:52:19
<Dave from B> I prefer after 10 pm with a nice glass of wine from the Lodge
09:52:31
<Dave from B> outside the Lodge
09:53:15
<Biddle> Ice cream is calling me. bbl
09:53:27
<Biddle> meh, i will wait for OF first
09:55:14
<Biddle> OF, nice and tall
10:18:24
<Betty> hello all
10:19:33
<Eric> Hi Betty
10:19:43
<Biddle afk> Hi Betty
10:20:10
<Eric> I have a solution to all the problems in the Park!
10:20:10
<Betty> hi Eric and Biddle
10:20:20
<Eric> Live streaming webcams at every basin!
10:21:02
<Eric> Might need 3 or 4 at Norris
10:21:53
<Biddle> one on steamboat :P
10:22:16
<Biddle> LGB might need multiple as it is huge
10:23:46
<Eric> with 360 video becoming so popular, it would be cool to mount a mast on top of the ranger station or bookstore up there and mount a 360 degree live streaming webcam that could see the entire basin.
10:26:21
<Eric> We must keep everyone "safe", more streaming webcams has to be the answer.
10:34:30
<Dave from B> Sounds fun but I'd rather see live bodies in all thermal areas...probably need about 15 on staff at a time
10:39:12
<Dave from B> If NPS would give volunteers free lodging, it weould be a great way for gazers to help out.
10:41:41
<kc (working)> I thought they did; they charge them?
10:43:09
<Dave from B> Let me rephrase...sorry...If you needed an additional 15-30 people to staff as volunteers would there be enough room.
10:43:53
<Dave from B> .
10:44:06
<kc (working)> np
10:44:36
<Eric> Do both! Cams and volunteers
10:44:42
<ynpvisitor1> they do not have housing
10:44:55
<ynpvisitor1> it is a sore issue at Old Faithful, the lack of it
10:45:13
<ynpvisitor1> many different groups are already competing for the space, like Yellowstone Foundation
10:45:41
<kc (working)> I've thought about volunteering during retirement, but if they cant put a roof over my head I'll have to reconsider
10:45:46
<Eric> Yep, with the visitor count, they just need more bodies helping
10:46:07
<Eric> Which means more space is needed for housing.
10:46:36
<Eric> Yurts I tell ya....they could solve the worlds problems :-)
10:47:07
<Dave from B> This is an issue I bet Yellowstone Foundation would tackle if it was in the name of thermal protection.
10:47:24
<ynpvisitor1> kind of a dreamer statement Dave
10:47:27
<Dave from B> New housing for NPS volunteer housing only
10:47:42
<ynpvisitor1> and Eric, many old time volunteers no longer are because of the housing issue
10:47:45
<Dave from B> Hey, lots of dreams have come true
10:48:15
<ynpvisitor1> Yellowstone PF wants to run their little shop and get donations....
10:48:30
<ynpvisitor1> they are taking up space where actual volunteers could be
10:48:59
<Dave from B> With all the events of this year if may be the perfect time to join together and make something happen
10:48:59
<ynpvisitor1> sorry , sore point with me
10:49:09
<Dave from B> Those donations end up back in the park
10:49:14
<ynpvisitor1> ha
10:49:18
<Dave from B> They give a lot to the park
10:50:09
<Dave from B> Where would the park be without their contributiions?
10:50:28
<Dave from B> They have operating expenses just like any other business.
10:51:51
<Eric> They could probably double the space in the RV area if they crammed them together as close as fishing bridge :-P
10:51:52
<kc (working)> i admit to being a bit trepidatious about using volunteers to protect the features. to educate sure, but protection seems more for rangers and LE. just my opinion
10:52:40
<Eric> I think they would be more of a first alert system and education...no enforcement
10:53:30
<Eric> Radios to call in Rangers and LE if needed
10:57:06
<ynpvisitor50> I do not think the ANPR would like a bunch of volunteers.
10:59:07
<Dave from B> Who is ANPR?
11:00:11
<Dave from B> kc, I agree with enforcement issue. Maybe 1 LE strolling in UGB with volunteers throughtout. LE could then respond faster.
11:00:47
<ynpvisitor84> At each gate, set up a decoy bear, and a fake hot spring with a manikin near it. Anyone who gets out of their car and approaches gets a tatto on their forehead that prevents them entrance? Just throwing that out there, lol
11:01:04
<Dave from B> haha 84
11:01:06
<ynpvisitor50> The non-union union. Or Association of National Park Rangers.
11:02:32
<Dave from B> Thanks 50
11:02:51
<Jake> I would like to see some LE rangers per visitor statistics over time
11:03:02
<Dave from B> Me too, Jake
11:03:16
<Jake> my impression is that the LE staffing hasn't gone up much in 20 years
11:03:21
<Dave from B> as in how many are on patrol at a given time.
11:03:25
<Jake> of course, visitation has
11:04:07
<Jake> for many other fields, it's OK because physical bodies are replaced by effiicencies and technology.
11:04:09
<Dave from B> Events of this summer might be what it takes to get more funding from Congress for NPS......boy am I really dreaming now!:)
11:05:17
<kc (working)> just not sure it would/could have prevented tuesday's event, we're up to 5 mill visitors now? carelessness always finds a way
11:05:33
<Jake> I would like the NPS (ie taxpayers) to have a piece of the biotech pie for tech derived from thermophiles...that could fund a lot
11:05:39
<ynpvisitor50> Speaking of rangers, there is the token one now.
11:06:25
<Dave from B> My concern is that events are going to increase in occurrence with increase in visitation. It seems society likes to do whatever they please these days.
11:06:29
<kc (working)> more lowest-common-denominators than ever
11:06:33
<Jake> there could be 100 more rangers and it wouldn't have prevented Tuesday's event
11:07:25
<ynpvisitor50> Ranger Drones!
11:08:48
<ynpvisitor50> Ankle monitor tasers. You step off the boardwalk, get shocked.
11:09:09
<Jake> probably the biggest enforcement change that could be implemented is extending cell phone coverage
11:09:22
<ynpvisitor50> Gazers would have trouble with that one. No way to use the tree when on Grand watch
11:09:38
<Dave from B> I know consequences are more severe in thermal areas. Do you think other NPS sites are having increases in similar issues?
11:10:38
<Jake> I'd like to see that data, too, Dave. I don't believe incident rates per capita are much different than they ever have been
11:11:04
<Jake> but it's much easier for the public to post information to the world so we hear about so many more incidents
11:11:18
<Jake> but I don't have any data to back that claim up ;)
11:11:18
<ynpvisitor50> Bad Lands has signs about Prairie Dogs having Plague. Seems to keep people n their cars around the towns.
11:11:19
<Dave from B> Events are much more visible today with social media
11:11:59
<Dave from B> Latest incident with Grand Prismatic probably would have been a secret before FB days
11:12:10
<ynpvisitor50> The park does keep things quite. Like how many animals get run over each year.
11:12:15
<Jake> even though it happened in front of 100 people...
11:12:26
<Dave from B> Sorry, have to work in the work for about 45 minutes. Good conversation today.
11:12:29
<kc (working)> I think the reporting of these incidents has gone up w cell phones and cameras on everyone now. the behaviors have probably always been there
11:12:38
<Jake> maybe 1 would have reported it at a ranger station hours later and then nothing would be done
11:12:47
<kc (working)> i hate working in the work, its the worst
11:12:53
<kc (working)> : )
11:13:19
<Dave from B> so true, kc!:D
11:13:55
<Jake> so the difference between 2007 and 2016 is the Canadians went from getting away with it to being the scourge of society
11:14:17
<Eric> No, Canadians where the Scourge in 2007 still :-P
11:14:44
<Jake> and the NPS played almost no role in that shift. Who knows what it will be like in another 10 years
11:14:46
<kc (working)> they cant even figure out how to win their own stanley cup
11:17:59
<kc (working)> definitely no Canadians in here or it would be filled with 4 letter words after that post ;)
11:18:39
<Eric> so true
11:29:00
<Betty> OF
11:29:41
<Dave from B> Back already
11:30:07
<Betty> wb Dave, that was fast work :-)
11:30:33
<Betty> good to be the boss
11:30:56
<Dave from B> I guess I would hope that something good will come from all that has happened this year.
11:31:07
<Dave from B> Betty, the boss works too many hours:)
11:31:14
<Betty> Daisy is really late
11:31:34
<Betty> think you are right
11:35:04
<Dave from B> I'm really surprised May visitation numbers aren't out yet.
11:51:48
<Biddle> http://abc7.com/news/tourist-dies-at-yellowstone-after-falling-into-boiling-acidic-spring/1378610/ did anyone hear about this?
11:51:54
<Jake> here's a source Dave: https://irma.nps.gov/Stats/SSRSReports/Park%20Specific%20Reports/Park%20All%20Months?Park=YELL
11:53:07
<Jake> total vehicles up 8% overall in May, 20% at North Gate over 2015
11:53:39
<Jake> are you joking, Biddle? or have you not been around?
11:55:54
<Dave from B> Thsnks Jake
11:56:07
<Jake> Total Recreational Visits up 15% by my calculations https://irma.nps.gov/Stats/SSRSReports/Park%20Specific%20Reports/Monthly%20Public%20Use?Park=YELL
11:56:38
<Biddle> sorry. was away from internet for 4 days
11:56:51
<Biddle> just catching up
11:57:30
<Jake> ah, yeah, that happened. I thought I'd seen you around
11:57:57
<Biddle> lol
11:59:57
<Dave from B> Bus use up 44% compared to last May:(
12:01:43
<ynpvisitor> Every buss should have it's own Ranger. That would solve a lot of problems.
12:01:57
<Dave from B> 600 more bus tours in May this year.
12:02:31
<ynpvisitor40> Salt Lake express has expanded exponentially, and yesterday saw my first red Asian Tours bus.
12:02:57
<Jake> wow, 500 more buses through West Gate in May
12:03:05
<ynpvisitor69> Nothing like the clatter of a deisel engine to liven up uour videos'
12:03:05
<Jake> that's a 16 / day increase
12:03:33
<Dave from B> Yep 600 buses at 50 people per bus is 30,000 bodies
12:03:45
<Dave from B> increase of 30,000
12:04:50
<Jake> hmmm, I need to take buses more into consideration when I rant about visitation not being able to keep increasing 20% every year
12:04:59
<ynpvisitor40> the road surfaces in Idaho are showing the increased usage.
12:05:05
<ynpvisitor> Dave needs to be on the tour list. 10 or 20 busses stopping in the store could not hurt.
12:05:45
<Jake> lodging is still a limited resource, but if more companies can bus people in from farther out consistently....
12:05:49
<Dave from B> There was a time 20 years ago when my weife and I had thought about leading tours through the park in a small bus of 15-20.
12:06:57
<Betty> LC ie
12:07:36
<Betty> still no Daisy. Weird
12:09:03
<ynpvisitor40> how overdue is Daisy?
12:09:18
<ynpvisitor> hours
12:09:22
<Betty> at 5:40
12:10:05
<Jake> damn near 6hrs now
12:10:39
<Dave from B> Will is calling it a wind delay
12:11:06
<Dave from B> I wonder what time Will got to Daisy
12:11:52
<Betty> maybe he is waiting for the frs call
12:12:04
<ynpvisitor69> 13 mph should not cause that much of a delay
12:12:25
<Biddle> may be slightely faster at daisy
12:12:44
<Jake> or time moves slower at Daisy
12:13:32
<Jake> calling it a "wind delay" is a bit presumptuous for me but it sounds like he thinks there wasn't a missed eruption
12:14:16
<Betty> sounds like that, Jake
12:15:00
<Jake> too bad it's SHORT Daisy intervals that are correlated with Splendid
12:15:19
<Betty> meh
12:15:46
<Jake> or this is a new type of Splendid delay ;)
12:15:47
<Dave from B> I would have expected Saisy around 1110. Will has been there a long time
12:16:21
<Betty> Splaisy, Dave :-D
12:16:30
<Dave from B> :D
12:16:47
<Biddle> should go now. I'm leaving
12:16:48
<Jake> Daindid
12:17:01
<Jake> Splaisy is better
12:17:12
<Betty> sweet, Jakehaha
12:17:24
<ynpvisitor69> Hope she doesn't go "Plume" on us
12:17:27
<Jake> Patrick Splaisy stars in Dirty Delaying
12:17:35
<Betty> lol
12:17:41
<Dave from B> I likt it, Jake
12:17:49
<Jake> gross!
12:18:07
<ynpvisitor30> LOL
12:18:08
<Jake> how did it taste?
12:18:33
<ynpvisitor69> Like chicken?
12:18:34
<Jake> you can't win...
12:18:44
<Betty> hehe
12:19:30
<Dave from B> People are staring at me Jake...that was a good one
12:19:34
<Betty> didn´t you change your keyboard, Dave?
12:20:17
<Jake> I don't recall which year, but I remember seeing data logger verified 7 or 8 hour intervals on Daisy
12:20:28
<Jake> from times when it was doing normal 2ish hour intervals
12:20:30
<Betty> ugh!
12:21:03
<Dave from B> Betty, so to report, it must be the operator!:)
12:21:07
<Dave from B> sorry*
12:21:21
<Betty> ;-)
12:22:53
<Dave from B> Can you tell I'm multi tasking?
12:23:08
<Betty> must be
12:23:18
<Jake> I'm worried about the results in the other tasks
12:23:28
<Betty> oh oh...
12:25:08
<Betty> hey Kent
12:25:11
<Dave from B> I am missing a couple of fingers
12:25:17
<Dave from B> just kidding:)
12:25:37
<Kent> Hey Betty
12:26:40
<Kent> Do you sell fingers individually or by the pound?
12:27:05
<Dave from B> Actually, no fingers sold here
12:27:10
<Betty> only in a dozen...missing two
12:27:16
<Kent> :)
12:27:29
<Betty> filled with toes
12:27:54
<Kent> I see Jimbo just got four new noms de chat, nihonium, moscovium, tennessine and oganesson.
12:28:00
<ynpvisitor69> Or Dave had two fingers of Scotch with lunch
12:28:49
<Kent> Much better than toes
12:29:06
<Betty> yup
12:35:49
<Biddle> still no daisy?!
12:36:16
<Betty> nope
12:36:34
<Biddle> i gave it a good chance
12:40:14
<Betty> hey Kevin
12:40:27
<Biddle> Hi Kevin
12:42:26
<Kevin iPad> No Aurum yet?
12:42:42
<Betty> no Daisy yet!
12:42:48
<Biddle> it must be lazy thursday
12:43:42
<Dave from B> Jake, I have to admit, I'm still in shock over may bus numbers
12:46:21
<Kevin iPad> BTW someone was wondering about the numbers logged into the cam. I read somewhere about a year ago it was getting 20,000 hits a day. Don't know how true that is but it was on the Internet...
12:49:49
<Biddle> https://www.google.com/search?q=abe+lincoln+internet&safe=active&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=995&tbm=isch&imgil=GvZvBqtpxLQbLM%253A%253B6uzmFu-dPQrfbM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.pinterest.com%25252Fexplore%25252Fabraham-lincoln-internet%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=GvZvBqtpxLQbLM%253A%252C6uzmFu-dPQrfbM%252C_&usg=__34Qt-NtG9-dSSdUI2FolZuZzwTk%3D&ved=0ahUKEwi70sX56JvNAhVIW1IKHdT1ABkQyjcIOA&ei=XdZZV_uvE
12:50:36
<Kent> When they had the conference on Old Faithful two or three years ago we were told that the OF cam was the most popular of all the NPS cams and at the time was getting as many unique hits as all other park cams combined. No idea if this is still true.
12:51:46
<Kevin iPad> I was surprised how many hits it got.
12:51:53
<Kent> Probably more like five years ago. Time does pass quickly.
12:52:44
<Kevin iPad> I bet the Hawaii volcano cam gets a bunch too.
12:53:40
<Kent> there are probably more NPS cams now than five years ago.
12:54:16
<Betty> though I miss UGB cam :-(
12:54:21
<Betty> Daisy
12:54:26
<Betty> finally
12:55:04
<Biddle> nice
12:55:24
<Kevin iPad> I can even see Daisy on my motel 6 wi if.
12:55:30
<Biddle> 6 1/2 hours yuck
12:55:39
<Kent> good to know it is not broken.
12:55:53
<Biddle> not completely broken that is
12:56:13
<Kent> :)
12:56:31
<Betty> Will called it a closed interval
12:56:49
<Kevin iPad> Unreal.
12:59:01
<Dave from B> ok...Betty hit the button
12:59:33
<ynpvisitor69> Used to be a hand crank
12:59:34
<Betty> it´s time, is it?
12:59:41
<Dave from B> Sure is
12:59:52
<Betty> .
12:59:52
<Betty> .-
12:59:53
<Betty> .-
12:59:53
<Betty> .-
12:59:57
<Betty> .-
13:00:08
<Betty> indy
13:00:24
<Biddle> nice
13:00:26
<Jake> my stream is too pixelated to see it
13:00:42
<Biddle> the hand crank still works!
13:00:50
<Dave from B> wow
13:01:06
<Betty> am I hallucinaating?
13:01:19
<Jake> in basin report of the same time
13:01:21
<Betty> no, it is indy
13:01:28
<Biddle> amazing
13:01:31
<Kent> You've got good eyes Betty!
13:01:49
<Jake> well done, Betty! now watch for LC
13:02:24
<Betty> I sent the text
13:02:32
<Eric> nice
13:03:03
<Eric> I think 15:15 was my predicted time
13:03:11
<Betty> cool :-)
13:03:23
<Kitt> yay
13:03:32
<Betty> no cam op?
13:03:38
<Dave from B> Hi, Kitt
13:03:40
<Betty> oh, fluffy
13:03:45
<Betty> is due
13:03:47
<Dave from B> Cam op is at Motel 6
13:04:06
<Kevin iPad> :)
13:04:22
<Biddle> hopefullly graham gets here to do it
13:04:36
<Kevin iPad> Lucky to have wifi here!
13:04:39
<Betty> see, Dave, I pushed the right button :-)
13:05:07
<Kitt> but you forgot to wait for fluffy first
13:05:17
<Dave from B> What happened with Daisy then?:)
13:05:24
<ynpvisitor69> Dual coming up?
13:05:56
<Betty> did you say I should push the Daisy button? NO! So what?!?
13:07:40
<Dave from B> You made Will wait how many hours before you pushed the Daisy button?:)
13:08:25
<Betty> If you told me earlier to do it... so it´s your fault
13:08:37
<Biddle> three and a half hours
13:09:19
<Kent> We have good wind direction for Fluffy
13:09:37
<Dave from B> haha
13:09:54
<Biddle> fluffyhive coming up
13:10:12
<ynpvisitor20> Kitt can you watch on the chat page now?
13:10:26
<Kitt> yes
13:10:42
<Kitt> I still have to click on refresh first
13:10:43
<ynpvisitor20> I have to use NPS site, chat freezes up for me now
13:11:04
<Biddle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qosiv2naOEY this is what she pushed
13:11:52
<Biddle> we have a camop!
13:12:19
<Kitt> yay, lets hear it for a camop
13:12:26
<Kitt> hip hip hooray
13:12:26
<Betty> no, I did not remove that rock!
13:12:38
<Kitt> Boom
13:12:53
<Kitt> Yay, let's hear it for Beehive
13:12:57
<Kitt> woohoo
13:13:01
<Jake> so Dave and Eric's 1515 prediction was WRONG
13:13:04
<ynpvisitor69> Hive wins
13:13:26
<Kitt> shower time
13:13:51
<Dave from B> Jake, that is harsh:D
13:14:26
<Biddle> Mine was right. i was thinking 1600 +- 2 hours
13:14:31
<Jake> LC ie
13:14:33
<Betty> but true
13:14:41
<ynpvisitor20> Wind challenged
13:14:43
<Betty> LC
13:16:03
<Dave from B> Biddler, that is not a window that is a tunnel:)
13:16:17
<Dave from B> sorry, not sure where r came from
13:16:39
<Jake> The Biddler was a failed comic book villain
13:17:12
<Kent> Holy geyser Batman
13:17:26
<Biddle> lol
13:17:43
<Kitt> Ok, it is your turn Old Faithful
13:17:55
<Kent> Nice eruption. Thanks Betty
13:18:11
<The Biddler> I will rule the world!!
13:18:11
<Betty> you´re welcome :-)
13:18:37
<Betty> did not work, Biddle
13:18:40
<Jake> people leaving OF now....'cause they saw it already!!
13:18:42
<Kevin iPad> Great job vw. We appreciate it!
13:19:43
<Betty> yes, thanks, vw!
13:19:51
<ynpvisitor69> Maybe geysers are on strike, like French guys
13:20:11
<Dave from B> You woke up vw from her afternoon nap?
13:20:17
<Biddle> Dogbert once said "Whatever you do you always fell better when you stop doing it"
13:20:33
<Betty> Aurum
13:20:35
<Betty> .
13:20:35
<Betty> .
13:20:36
<Betty> .
13:20:38
<Kitt> Aurum
13:20:42
<Dave from B> woohoo
13:20:47
<Kent> !!~!
13:20:48
<Kitt> or Murua
13:20:56
<Biddle> so i will take initiative and not do it in the first place :P
13:21:17
<Dave from B> nice early catch eagle eyes
13:21:56
<Kent> That was an unexpected treat.
13:22:27
<Kevin iPad> All we need now is Pink Cone.
13:22:48
<Kitt> I thought you needed Daisy
13:22:51
<Jake> OF threatening 2hrs now
13:23:11
<Jake> that did it ;)
13:23:13
<Kitt> Go Fluffy
13:23:20
<Betty> Daisy just went
13:24:11
<Biddle> Betty dow you know where the Giuantess button is?
13:24:19
<Biddle> *Giantess
13:24:58
<Biddle> Dave, can I get a refund on this keyboard?
13:25:00
<Jake> that one is under lock and key and you need to know 7 access codes to even get in the same room as it
13:25:05
<Betty> it is not labeled yet, sorry
13:26:09
<Kent> A very good hour. Thanks all.
13:26:09
<ynpvisitor30> Jake check out the times BL is entering right now. The time stamp is in the future!
13:27:59
<Jake> time travel is real
13:28:48
<ynpvisitor30> I guess so! GT says she entered things after 1531 and in my world I ain't there yet
13:29:56
<ynpvisitor30> ooh there's one entered at 1535
13:30:09
<Betty> it is 23.29 right now. she is hours behind
13:30:54
<ynpvisitor69> Gazers on bicycles can't move fast enough to achieve time travel. But a Link IE report would make them try.
13:30:57
<Jake> time entered or time updated? I see updated times in the future only
13:33:57
<ynpvisitor30> Let me wait for the next one. Times entered
13:34:46
<ynpvisitor30> she may be done. Her last was a Whirligig entered 1535 (and entered it a few mins ago)
13:35:08
<ynpvisitor30> now it's too late since it really _is_ 1535
13:36:40
<Jake> again, this distinction is important, are you seeing time ENTERED or time UPDATED as in the future?
13:36:55
<Jake> because I see all the ENTERED times as 1517
13:38:49
<Eric> I Agree Jake, that is what I see too
13:39:01
<Eric> Updated was @ 1535 though
13:40:23
<Jake> I think I'm using two different sources for timestamps. Her computer is likely in the "future". Needs fixin'
13:40:50
<ynpvisitor30> I was just going to ask if it might be her computer
13:41:21
<ynpvisitor30> Five minute warning on some things might be nice if she could take her computer everywhere :P
13:42:37
<Betty> time for sleep. Have a great evening all
13:42:48
<Dave from B> Nite Betty
13:42:56
<Biddle> 'night
13:43:18
<ynpvisitor100> Sweet Dreams Betty♥
13:43:40
<ynpvisitor30> so you understand what I was seeing, then (?)
13:47:20
<Jake> I think so, 30, even though you didn't answer my question. GT is complex enough that what you see on my computer might be different than what I see on mine so I try to get clarification where I can
13:50:04
<ynpvisitor30> yes, I did one chat post that didn't take - in a timeout. Will re state it so you are sure.
13:50:14
<ynpvisitor30> I happened to be watching when my display dimmed and I saw new times coming in.
13:50:40
<ynpvisitor30> I did a mouse-over and noticed that "Time Entered" on the mouse-over display was 5 minutes ahead of the current time
13:52:46
<Jake> do you remember which entry?
13:53:19
<ynpvisitor30> aI then watched all of Barbara's entries come in, and they were all "Time Entered" ahead of what my watch and computer said was current time, as they happened
13:53:33
<ynpvisitor30> so the answer is, all of Barbara's recent entries
13:53:33
<Biddle> its worse than that... look that the time entered vs. the geyser actual time on my last entry
13:53:56
<Biddle> i went ahead four minutes and didn't even know
13:54:30
<Biddle> time for chores. bbl
13:54:37
<ynpvisitor30> Good example- hers were not noticeable that way because she drove from Norris to West before entering them
13:54:38
<Jake> can you link to that entry Biddle?
13:54:55
<Biddle afk> http://geysertimes.org/eruption.php?id=840394
13:55:24
<Jake> Biddle, what time Entered do you see on that entry?
13:55:45
<Jake> Lion
13:56:09
<Biddle afk> 1926
13:56:25
<Dave from B> I see 1931
13:56:27
<Biddle afk> oh wait that is the seconds... :P
13:56:36
<ynpvisitor30> I see this on the Biddle-sprinkler: 19:31:26
13:56:52
<Biddle afk> well, i really have to do chores now. bbl (actually, this time :P)
13:57:02
<Jake> thank god, that was about to be a huge turd hitting the fan
13:58:42
<ynpvisitor30> yes, sorry I corroborated it before looking- I thought he had JUST done a real time post
13:58:56
<ynpvisitor30> where Barbara's were a few hours ago since she drove home
13:59:19
<ynpvisitor30> where Barbara's were a few hours ago since she drove home
13:59:41
<Jake> so do you still see BL entries with Time Entered = 1535
13:59:44
<Jake> ?
14:00:08
<ynpvisitor30> That was just the last example I could give you to quickly look before it really WAS 1535.
14:00:45
<Jake> I understand, but that entry should still show 1535
14:00:46
<ynpvisitor30> She did them all one by one, and each was ~5 min ahead of real time. (Not the eruption time, just 'entered' time)
14:01:18
<ynpvisitor30> Now it says 1517
14:01:44
<Jake> was this in the Tooltip popup on the homepage or on this page: http://geysertimes.org/eruption.php?id=841434 ?
14:02:11
<ynpvisitor30> Tool popup - what I called mouse-over
14:02:37
<ynpvisitor30> Now ALL hers show 1517, and I did see each one individually entered with different times of entry.
14:02:48
<ynpvisitor30> Guess you had to be there, lol
14:03:22
<Jake> no, that's helpful. different than what I thought the issue was
14:03:32
<ynpvisitor30> whew- good.
14:03:45
<ynpvisitor30> Watch for her times tomorrow when she gets home
14:04:06
<ynpvisitor30> It's as if suddenly now she used multi-entry, but I DID see them coming in one by one, honest
14:10:20
<ynpvisitor30> .
14:16:08
<ynpvisitor30> weird- one moment ago I saw individual times on hers again, then re-checked and it's back to all at 1517
14:24:00
<Dave from B> Good evening Graham
14:24:14
<Biddle afk> Hello Graham
14:25:07
<Graham> hi there
14:25:16
<Graham> what excitement is on for tonight?
14:25:57
<Biddle> Giantess, if i can find the button
14:26:47
<Dave from B> Hopefully a Daisy interval less than 6 hours
15:02:31
<Biddle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apVR5Htz0K4 found the Giantess button, but i can't press it!
15:05:25
<Graham> of
15:20:32
<Eric> someone wants your attention graham!
15:29:27
<Graham> sorry not at work tonight
15:29:36
<Graham> well i am working, but not on the cam,
15:57:20
<Biddle> 'night all
16:30:29
<kcmule> lion, ini?
16:30:30
<Graham> Lion
16:31:03
<Graham> 3rd?
16:31:07
<kcmule> nm didnt see 1555
16:31:46
<Graham> nobody saw one at 1715 either
16:32:50
<Graham> i am having trouble keeping count of the goals
16:33:25
<ynpvisitor99> Are you watching the hockey game?
16:34:06
<Graham> not very well, but keep hearing noises
16:34:56
<Kevin ipad> Lot of goals!
16:41:31
<Graham> of
16:59:02
<Kevin ipad> Daisy warming up?
16:59:36
<ynpvisitor71> Split Cone is warming up
17:04:30
<Michael> Daisy forgot how to be a predictable geyser today?
17:16:06
<kcmule> sawmill
17:26:20
<Kevin ipad> Grand is ugly too.
17:36:47
<kcmule> daisy
17:38:04
<Graham> nobody reporting Turban any more ... at 9h
17:38:06
<Kevin ipad> Long curtain today.
17:38:28
<Graham> Turban?
17:38:44
<Michael> Looked like it.
17:39:08
<Graham> still in IDA Kevin?
17:39:47
<Kevin ipad> Yes. Leaving in the morning.
17:40:00
<Graham> i fly there 3 weeks from today :)
17:40:26
<Graham> should be on the other end of the cam by now
17:40:42
<Kevin ipad> Sounds good. Flying to Idaho Falls?
17:41:01
<Graham> yep. IAD to DAD
17:41:11
<Graham> yep. IAD to IDA
17:41:29
<Graham> hope they route my bag correctly
17:41:52
<Kevin ipad> Quick jaunt to the park from here.
17:42:18
<Graham> yep, longer drive than BZN but its just as quick because theres no windy canyon
17:42:26
<Graham> just the speed traps in Idaho
17:43:01
<Graham> sometimes the flights are cheaper into IDA
17:43:04
<Kevin ipad> Those 45 zones drive me crazy.
17:43:19
<Graham> Lion trying
17:43:35
<Graham> not sure if they try to catch people there or not
17:44:06
<Kevin ipad> with the condition of the roads you can't do much more than 45 anyway I suppose.
17:44:47
<Graham> uhoh always been good when i have driven it before
17:45:29
<Kevin ipad> Potholes there that could swallow o
17:45:42
<Kevin ipad> an RV.
17:46:59
<Graham> dont fly to IDA very often, its been a few years BZN is usually a better deal
17:47:37
<Graham> always memorable though since it was the first airport i used after 9/11
17:48:36
<Kevin ipad> We got some great deals for the kid that were cheaper than driving.
17:49:24
<kcmule> lion
17:54:59
<kcmule> grand
17:55:01
<kcmule> .
17:55:04
<Graham> Scott Grisso took over posting Turbans
17:55:09
<Graham> another one now
17:55:21
<Graham> waiting
17:55:41
<Graham> there it goes
17:55:48
<Graham> nice
17:56:32
<Kevin ipad> Nice spikes. Tall start.
18:05:26
<Biddle> thats a great sight
18:05:31
<Graham> seems to have a better burst count these days
18:07:12
<Graham> on that good note, goodnight
18:07:32
<Biddle> 'night
18:07:34
<Michael> Good night. Me too.
18:12:53
<Biddle> that was a short stay. bye
18:13:05
<kcmule> OF
20:00:01
<kcmule> castle ie