Showing logs for date: 2016-08-05
00:23:30 <ynpvisitor2> great... joining the stream while it resets
03:29:43 <DGInc> let's see when OF decides to erupt, almost 9 hours ago the last eruption was entered
03:37:10 <DGInc> it also looks like Lion is ready to erupt
03:57:37 <DGInc> OF
03:58:49 <DGInc> and GT is being slow again... hopefully there's soon a solution for this issue
04:36:18 <DGInc> Split Cone erupting or passive steaming?
05:00:41 <DGInc> Grand ie
05:04:13 <DGInc> Hello camop
05:05:57 <DGInc> Daisy ie
05:16:25 <DGInc> Grand was a T1Q by the way
05:35:56 <Dave from B> Congrats to Jake for winning the BH prediction last night. He beat me by 3 minutes.
05:38:08 <Art (working)> That was fun
05:39:54 <Dave from B> Morning Art
05:44:05 <Art (working)> Morning
05:44:05 <Art (working)> Apparently I quit
05:44:38 <Dave from B> Oops. I was emailed sa note that Art you were the winner
05:44:47 <Dave from B> Congrats
05:48:08 <Art (working)> I think my work proxy or firewall must be closing my connection to the chat pretty frequently
05:49:08 <Art (working)> I was close but not nearly as close as you and Jake
05:53:12 <Dave from B> Well, that wasn't too far off
06:38:09 <ynpvisitor54> Lion
06:41:12 <Jimbo Cadmium> Closeup looks powerful
06:41:37 <Biddle> especially in low wind
06:41:47 <Jimbo Cadmium> yeah
06:52:49 <Eric> Morning all
06:52:54 <Eric> Looks like Grotto steam
06:53:03 <Biddle> morning Eric
07:11:44 <ynpvisitor54> Good morning all you hive-happy hobos.
07:34:07 <Dave from B> haha 54
07:41:27 <kc (working)> daisy ie
07:52:32 <Jake> Oblong ?
07:59:09 <Jake> LC ie
08:15:14 <Kitt> good morning
08:16:03 <Kitt> are we hoping for Castle
08:16:34 <Kitt> how does bee look this morning?
08:17:49 <Kitt> it was strange to often get to bee to find a large group of non-gazers waiting for it because GT predicted it
08:18:26 <Kitt> often there were no gazers there yet and they didn't know where the indicator was
08:18:42 <Kitt> unless someone had seen it the day before
08:19:10 <ynpvisitor91> that is interesting Kitt
08:19:53 <Kitt> they would look for indy any where from 1 foot from cone to 20 feet from the cone
08:21:08 <Jake> any idea on what was their source for knowing that an indicator existed? or did some not even know about the indicator?
08:21:24 <ynpvisitor91> so if we need bigger boardwalks it's all Jake's fault
08:21:48 <Jake> I do worry about that
08:22:55 <ynpvisitor91> schooling the masses - it's good it enables them to see things tho
08:24:05 <ynpvisitor54> There was a sign at BH with a picture and a description. Unless it has been removed. There it is in close-up.
08:25:20 <Jake> GT website gets 700+ unique visitors per day this summer.
08:25:49 <Jake> 3,700 unique visitors per week
08:27:22 <Jake> I could see a handful of people each day getting hooked into waiting for BH based on a GT prediction
08:27:29 <Jake> out of those numbers
08:28:49 <ynpvisitor91> wonder if they are savvy enough to actually click into the geyser and look at the past intervals themselves
08:28:51 <Jake> My experience with that BH sign is that no one comprehends what it is saying. But that's based on the general public. Someone who is interested enough to sit and wait for Beehive probably gets more out of that sign like the fact that there is an indicator
08:29:59 <Kitt> one early evening there were close to 40 people waiting
08:30:07 <ynpvisitor54> Good things come to those who wait.
08:30:25 <Kitt> I was told that Beehive was late according to the prediction
08:31:26 <Kitt> I believe that was the evening it pulled either a 17 1/2 or 18 hour interval which was two hours past the "predicted" time
08:32:12 <Jake> ahhh, so it WAS late
08:32:27 <ynpvisitor77> Sounds good to me. I always say a geyser is early or late based on the prediction. That is what a prediction is for.
08:32:44 <Jake> I like to say the prediction was early
08:32:48 <Kitt> no just pulled a longer interval than GT expected
08:32:50 <Jake> or wrong
08:33:42 <ynpvisitor77> Even people are predictable. Given enough people doing something, there are a number that will do it a particular way.
08:33:43 <Kitt> I explained to them about what it's recent range was and how we do our best guess then wait for it
08:33:50 <Jake> well, them's the breaks. It's good to start newbies off with a real gazing experience of waiting. It makes the eruption more enjoyable
08:34:17 <Kitt> I even showed several of them how to find the past eruptions
08:34:29 <ynpvisitor77> It is a prediction, not a schedule like OF has.
08:34:50 <ynpvisitor54> Patience is a virtue.
08:34:55 <ynpvisitor91> yeah that's what I was asking Kitt - if any of them looked at that to make the decision themselves, or just followed the prediction
08:34:57 <Kitt> I also had people show me GT when I would wait for the sunset Old Faithful
08:35:53 <Kitt> if they didn't believe me I would bring up a post that I had entered on GT which seemed to show them that I might know something
08:36:08 <ynpvisitor97> Hey Jake, how many users of the iphone app do you have during a day?
08:36:15 <ynpvisitor77> That looks like a fun vacation. Yellowstone with a bad foot.
08:37:28 <Jake> there is no iPhone app. it's an Android app and that has 1,800 installs. we don't have a way to determine how many of those are "active" on a given day
08:39:03 <Jake> it gets around 20 - 30 new installs per day and 10 - 20 uninstalls per average +5 - +8 per day
08:40:21 <Jake> if it's like last summer, peak installs will come in the next couple weeks, then the number will slowly drop over the winter as people clean out their phones
08:42:24 <ynpvisitor91> one day you mentioned a stat of # of users who have 5 or fewer posts - do you remember that #?
08:42:34 <ynpvisitor54> Do you give JimS a cookie when you see him for providing the nighttime data ?
08:42:37 <Jake> I'm really curious who mentions the GT app to whom on some days because we'll get 50+ installs in one day
08:42:58 <Jenna> does the ranger at the morning walk?
08:43:10 <ynpvisitor91> STanding on the bench announcing at Grand? :)
08:43:35 <Jake> there's only 300 registered users of GT so there's way over 1,000 people using the app as read-only
08:44:09 <ynpvisitor91> that is an interested factoid, thanks
08:46:29 <Kitt> I know I have told people about GT at Beehive, Grand, and Old Faithful
08:49:47 <ynpvisitor54> They should move the Plume bench over to Aurum.
08:50:17 <Jake> word does get out in the basin about GT...then followup question "Do you have Verizon?" "no" "bah, don't bother then"
08:51:40 <Jake> I think they're saving the Plume bench for the Anemone bleacher seating project
08:55:41 <Kitt> Look at that - Lion and Old Faithful were chatting
08:57:27 <Kitt> about half an hour to go
08:58:13 <Kitt> Plum corner is the extended Old Faithful viewing platform
08:59:44 <Kitt> Plume
09:01:07 <Jake> half an hour to go for what? BHI?
09:01:25 <Kitt> probably
09:03:37 <Kitt> how long since the last no indy, they seem to be getting farther apart
09:04:57 <Jake> last report was July 19
09:05:27 <Kitt> good they are stretching out
09:05:55 <Jake> the 11.5 hr interval at 1600
09:06:14 <Kitt> I believe that was a F & M day and we drove the lower loop after the eruption
09:09:07 <Jake> speaking of late geysers, c'mon Old Faithful
09:09:11 <Jake> LC
09:09:38 <Kitt> it is working on it - patience Jake
09:09:52 <Jake> BHI
09:09:54 <Jake> ding
09:09:55 <Jake> ding
09:09:56 <Jake> ding
09:10:16 <Kitt> oh that is what it was waiting for
09:10:45 <kc (working)> good eye
09:11:21 <Kevin L> .
09:11:37 <Kevin L> Do we need txt?
09:11:38 <Kitt> so will we get a dual or will fluffy bury bee
09:11:48 <Kitt> always
09:12:10 <Kevin L> Since I haven't got one, I will send.
09:13:26 <Kitt> just got one
09:13:29 <Kevin L> Done
09:14:19 <Kevin L> OF going way long.
09:14:48 <Jake> OF has its eye on that 2hr interval
09:16:59 <Kitt> I would like a wind shift please
09:17:18 <Kitt> that is better
09:19:36 <kc (working)> not so uncommon to see a 2 hr interval anymore
09:19:36 <Jake> 2 hrs on Old Faithful! This is special. This doesn't happen very often.
09:20:18 <Kitt> that means there are a lot of crabby people at Old Faithful
09:20:36 <Kitt> hopefully they are shifting to watch Beehive also
09:20:47 <Kitt> Go Old Faithful
09:20:55 <ynpvisitor62> OF is trying to trick them into staying for BH
09:21:52 <Jake> I see 5 intervals over 2hrs in the last 9,600 intervals
09:23:00 <Kitt> wait bee
09:24:51 <Kitt> No the Rangers will reposition the visitors for bee
09:25:46 <Jake> haha, I was wondering what that weird visual distortion time
09:27:26 <kc (working)> 2 in the last month, maybe we will see more
09:27:44 <Kitt> Climb Beehive, Climb!
09:28:04 <Kitt> Go tall
09:28:12 <Jake> that's interesting kc, didn't notice that
09:28:50 <Kitt> it is shower time at the bee
09:29:22 <Kitt> there goes Emme
09:29:33 <Kitt> Polly is in her poncho
09:29:38 <ynpvisitor62> There was one relatively recently (probably about a month ago) that was almost exactly 2hrs (for a short) followed by an interval of less than an hour.
09:31:27 <Kitt> bee is being naughty
09:31:29 <Jake> nice cam work, nice eruption
09:31:46 <Kitt> it is doing its sprinkler impression
09:31:52 <Jake> Polly looks like a jedi master in that poncho
09:31:55 <ynpvisitor97> haha...awesome kid in poncho running
09:32:21 <Kitt> Emme is in the yellow poncho
09:32:48 <ynpvisitor97> only gazers carrying ponchos on 70 degree days :-)
09:33:07 <Jake> when it hasn't rained for 3 weeks
09:33:26 <Kitt> sure is nice when you get stuck in the bee crowd and it shifts toward you
09:33:56 <Kitt> looks like they did a good job sending people to the overlook
10:27:38 <Dave from B> Sounds like a mafia member
10:27:51 <Jimbo Gd> I've transmuted to Gadolinium, (Flash crashed.)
11:17:10 <Jake> the GT server has been having issues this week. Is there anyone here who has gotten a "502 Bad Gateway" error who is using a browser other than Chrome?
11:20:47 <ynpvisitor66> I believe I saw one on Safari, but I'm not completely sure
11:21:35 <ynpvisitor66> There have definitely been some exceedingly long load-times
11:23:47 <ynpvisitor29> I've gotten many on Safari
11:25:16 <Jake> k, thanks
11:27:56 <ynpvisitor29> mine are entering data or looking at last 20 intervals for geysers
11:31:04 <ynpvisitor97> yep, bad gateway is from the gnix server not being able to load your site...most likely due to server overload
11:31:20 <ynpvisitor97> Same thing is happening on this page...hence so many quits
11:33:03 <ynpvisitor29> I cannot watch chat on my computer anymore. I can write here, yet my video is frozen, even with refresh after refresh. I have to watch on NPS site.
11:33:34 <ynpvisitor97> What browser?
11:33:43 <ynpvisitor29> safari
11:34:29 <ynpvisitor29> so 63 is trying to load their page, that is why that quit message keeps happening?
11:34:46 <ynpvisitor97> no idea
11:34:55 <ynpvisitor29> there are 7 quits from 63 in my chat frame now
11:35:33 <ynpvisitor29> I would love to have chat and the video stream available on the same page again
11:35:53 <Eric in Safari> I hit the play button here and the video plays without issue
11:36:18 <ynpvisitor29> I wish that was my case. It plays for about a minute, then freezes
11:36:37 <Eric in Safari> safari 9.1.1 here
11:36:39 <ynpvisitor29> the NPS site I push the play button and I stay connected until I disconnect
11:37:00 <Eric in Safari> I will let it play here to see if it stalls
11:37:22 <ynpvisitor29> I am on 9.1.2
11:37:33 <ynpvisitor29> yet the issue was happening before I updated
11:37:43 <Eric> It very well could be a network connection issue
11:37:52 <Eric> Yes, I doubt it's the browser
11:38:39 <ynpvisitor29> I see BH just snuck in under 16 hours
11:38:41 <Eric> Is it me?
11:38:52 <ynpvisitor29> only you know for sure
11:39:05 <Eric> It's true...and sometimes I am not positive
11:39:13 <ynpvisitor29> ha ha
11:43:51 <Jake> "Eric" just became self-aware
11:48:11 <Jimbo Gd> Open the pod bay doors, Eric
11:48:58 <Jake> I'm afraid he can't do that, Jimbo
11:50:04 <Dave from B> haha
11:50:50 <ynpvisitor29> he is stuck on a bad server...
11:51:53 <ynpvisitor29> haze moving in, soon the park will be surrounded by fires
11:54:17 <Eric in Safari> Video still playing smooth as butter here.
12:11:28 <Eric in Safari> test
12:17:43 <Eric> I can confirm that using safari here, and killing my network, the video does not automatically start again when I reconnect my network, I just get the spinning circle
12:17:54 <Eric> refresh does fix this issue
12:18:13 <Eric> well, at least until the network dies again :-P
12:24:29 <ynpvisitor12> I get the circle when I have multiple pages open in FF. I thought having to hit refreash was a normal thing.
12:25:22 <ynpvisitor12> Do not use Safari because of it's crummy cookie blocking.
12:25:51 <Eric> only if you have bad connection, rtpm streaming doesn't do well with internmittent connections.
12:26:09 <ynpvisitor12> Also have not update to the latest and not greatest FF for the same reason.
12:26:43 <ynpvisitor12> It must be my Band Width. I have old slow DSL.
12:26:53 <ynpvisitor12> A Grand day
12:27:50 <Eric> OF dual
12:27:59 <ynpvisitor12> yuk
12:28:04 <Eric> yup
12:28:15 <Eric> Good news, it should finish quick :-)
12:32:10 <Jimbo Gd> Grand just indicated it knows we're watching
12:37:08 <ynpvisitor12> So how much coffee could that percolator perk?
12:37:57 <ynpvisitor12> going for a second pot?
12:38:06 <Jake> Old Tardy ie
12:38:45 <ynpvisitor12> guess not
12:46:21 <Dave from B> Time to head home. Next week, I'll tell you all about how baseball, a foul ball and my dentist and oral surgeon all came together the past 20 hours. Have a great weekend everyone!
12:47:26 <Eric> cya dave
12:47:30 <Eric> daisy
12:47:56 <ynpvisitor12> Dave always has such great timing.
13:42:03 <ynpvisitor91> Jake I have had 502 error on Firefox (late answer)
13:42:32 <Jake> thanks
13:42:52 <Jake> this is an equal opportunity issue... affecting all browsers equally
13:57:19 <Jake> I'm out! have a good weekend all!
15:13:44 <Betty> Daisy
15:42:28 <Betty> OF
15:48:03 <Kevin L> Hi Betty
15:48:21 <Betty> hi Kevin
15:50:08 <Betty> LC
16:09:18 <Betty> headed out. night :-)
16:53:30 <ynpvisitor99> Looks like Lion might be finishing an eruption
17:36:09 <ynpvisitor99> LC ie