Showing logs for date: 2016-11-01
23:50:54 <ynpvisitor45> OF ie
00:55:50 <ynpvisitor45> Possible Lion ie, but very dark and hard to see
00:57:57 <ynpvisitor45> I thin kthat was a big mistake....
01:25:48 <ynpvisitor45> OF near end
04:10:06 <ynpvisitor8> Looks as if the cam is down :(
04:10:28 <Dave from B> 2nd morning in a row
04:46:35 <ynpvisitor31> Its back:)
04:48:47 <Dave from B> Thanks 31...nice black screen:)
04:51:15 <ynpvisitor31> The boardwalk is starting to show, someone flashlight lit OF a few min. ago
05:17:08 <Dave from B> Oblong?
05:33:01 <Dave from B> Daisy ie
05:33:04 <Dave from B> Morning Kevin
05:34:32 <Kevin L™> Morning
05:35:02 <ynpvisitor68> The nightly half hour camera reset has moved from approximately 0215 to 0554. That is why the camera has been black the last two mornings. The park has been informed.
05:35:59 <ynpvisitor31> Good to know, thanks
05:38:13 <Kevin L™> Next week it will get light earlier too.
05:39:41 <ynpvisitor68> sarcasm, this early in the morning?
05:42:40 <Kevin L™> Time change Sunday.
05:44:46 <ynpvisitor68> I see - ironic that someone from Arizona would have to remind me.
05:45:42 <ynpvisitor31> Arizona ?
05:46:03 <Dave from B> Only his pipeline company is from Arizona
05:50:22 <Kevin L™> Wish they would go back!
05:50:58 <Kevin L™> I am close to Arizona though. Only about 10 miles.
05:54:42 <Kitt> Good morning
05:54:44 <Dave from B> Morning kitt
05:55:03 <Kitt> hello
06:04:36 <Dave from B> Becca's report from xray was good. No broken foot...only a deep bone bruise that should be fine in a couple of weeks
06:04:46 <Dave from B> ..
06:06:39 <ynpvisitor31> Not broke...Good! But ouch!
06:07:35 <Dave from B> 3 weeks to recover in time to try to make the basketball team
06:10:23 <Kitt> ouch
06:10:37 <Kitt> are going to need to bubble wrap Becca
06:18:33 <Kevin L™> OF
06:27:03 <Jimbo Dysprosiu> Oops, didn't fit
06:27:18 <Jimbo Dy> I get my kicks from element 66
06:27:53 <Jimbo Dy> Dave B, what happened in the state tourney? Did she get hurt early or late?
06:31:44 <Dave from B> Jimbo, she got hurt late in first half of game 1 but played every minute of all 3 games including the 100 minutes for game 1 (overtime).
06:31:52 <Dave from B> Team finshed 4th
06:32:31 <Jimbo Dy> She's tough. Good for her
06:33:13 <Dave from B> If she was only about 3-5" taller she could be the one delivering the contact instead of vice versa
06:35:29 <Jimbo Dy> My son's teammates had a tough weekend. Captain on his rec travel hockey team broke his arm in 3 places, needs surgery, at the end of the game they were comfortably winning.
06:36:13 <Jimbo Dy> A teammate on his HS team was in another rec travel game, took a hit by the boards, hit his head, had a seizure, apparently stopped breathing and had to be revived
06:36:19 <Jimbo Dy> But he's fine now
06:38:04 <Dave from B> can be brutal at times
06:38:27 <Jimbo Dy> I'm glad he's a goalie
06:42:44 <Jimbo Dy> Back to the basin - looks like Grand
06:44:25 <Dave from B> Water going to be tough to see
06:46:30 <Jake> good morning all. I saw spikes at Grand
06:46:37 <Dave from B> Today is the day for my once a year rant on health insurance. Got my renewal notice for 2017....increase was over $7000 per year
06:47:30 <Jake> for your family's policy?
06:47:37 <lc> morning all
06:47:40 <Dave from B> Yes, for 5
06:47:50 <Jake> hi lc
06:47:58 <lc> how many people Dave?
06:48:17 <Jake> what deductible levels and individual deductibles or a family deductible?
06:48:17 <Dave from B> Morning, lc
06:48:56 <lc> is that just your family policy?
06:48:59 <Dave from B> Deduct: indiv 5000 family 10000
06:49:59 <Jake> you should talk to your employer about providing health coverage
06:50:17 <Dave from B> Yes, just family policy. I don't provide health insurance for my staff...I can't afford to
06:50:30 <Dave from B> haha Jake
06:50:55 <lc> wow
06:51:24 <lc> so, how much is your monthly premium?
06:51:38 <lc> or will be in 2017
06:51:39 <Dave from B> Will be just under 2000/month
06:51:46 <Dave from B> Looks like seafood prices are going up
06:51:52 <ynpvisitor57> i'll jump in on health care issue... why are we paying for the ceo's who are making 50,000.00/day salary?
06:52:53 <David A pdx> sprinkler!!
06:52:58 <Dave from B> I'll be calling to raise dedcutible yet again
06:53:17 <lc> 15 years ago before I went on medicare I was paying $1000 a month for Ma and me.
06:54:10 <Jake> there's supposed to be competition in the insurance market that would keep a check on salaries but the competition is going away. Insurers benefit from economies of scale through mergers. State-by-state marketplaces reduces competition in places like MT because it's not cost effective for more insurers to enter and compete there
06:54:13 <Dave from B> How can the average Joe even afford insurance?
06:54:48 <David A pdx> why are we letting pharmaceuticals buy expired patents and jack the price up 400+%?
06:55:25 <David A pdx> you're right we can't - because we're paying for exorbitant salaries, and profiteers
06:56:19 <lc> have you been to a hospital recently?
06:56:30 <lc> unreal what it cost.
06:56:43 <Dave from B> Nope....we haven't reached our deductible in almost 5 years
06:57:40 <Jake> well, there's your problem. You're not going after the full benefits
06:58:15 <lc> my treatments (if not on medicare) would have been over 25k a treatment.
06:59:08 <David A pdx> lc, i get to sign up for medicare in April...
06:59:08 <lc> plus another 13 to 14 for one shot the day after.
06:59:19 <Dave from B> wow
07:00:02 <lc> that will help David.
07:01:51 <David A pdx> a milestone I am happy to reach!!
07:02:08 <Jake> the US health-care system is very messy. We have the best health care in the world (if you can afford it). I'm an advocate for single-payer, but was open to some hybrid option. That hybrid option is not working out well now. It was doing OK in terms of premium increases being less than what they were.
07:02:57 <David A pdx> it is a schizoid system. the best, but, unaffordable for most - even if you have insurance
07:03:13 <Jake> But this year seems to be a "catch up" year to put premium increases back to what they were doing before ACA.
07:03:41 <David A pdx> apparently not enough younger healthy people aren't signing up.
07:04:47 <Jake> yes, that is a problem. The self-insure route even with the penalty is an attractive option.
07:05:40 <Jake> The risk is bankruptcy if you need $10k-100k's of healthcare, but most won't so need it so you take your chances.
07:06:21 <David A pdx> not having health insurance is like a home owner, not having house insurance...
07:06:21 <Jake> interesting F&M and Giant area steam plume down basin
07:08:11 <Dave from B> health insurance is not an option I would even consider. Have to protect my famkily at all costs
07:09:10 <David A pdx> i don't understand those who think they can 'live' without it... but, back to geysers!
07:09:45 <Dave from B> would be nice for gazers to catch F&M one last time before closing
07:10:10 <David A pdx> when is closing?
07:10:19 <Dave from B> Monday morning I belieive
07:10:50 <David A pdx> it would be nice to see it this time of year, but pretty chilly...
07:11:33 <lc> something in Riverside area but seems a little early.
07:12:47 <Dave from B> I agree lc
07:16:52 <lc> maybe that was Rocket a bit ago.???
07:17:20 <lc> didn't last very long
07:21:26 <Dave from B> Does Artemesia also appear in that area?
07:21:52 <David A pdx> i think i missed sprinkler ~0915, which would have been a shorter interval
07:25:01 <David A pdx> Sprinkler ie
07:26:17 <Dave from B> Might have to move somewhere near YNp and live off the grid
07:27:57 <David A pdx> that possible in MT? I know it is on Big Island, Hawaii
07:28:08 <David A pdx> if you want to be overrun by lava...
07:28:17 <Dave from B> haha
07:29:22 <David A pdx> minor details of course!
07:40:50 <David A pdx> OF
07:49:28 <Kevin L™> If you think government run healthcare is it, DON"T. I have been on a government run healthcare plan for about 20 years and it is horrible. They have to be different and do ours in July but they sent out a survey and it looks like we are due big increases and benefits cuts this year.
07:50:54 <David A pdx> how do we get affordable health care? or is it a pipe dream?
07:51:45 <Kevin L™> What they have never addressed are lawyers. Perhaps if you could get healthcare with a provision to limit medical liability and pass the savings on to the consumer? Wait. Most legislators ARE lawyers! Fat chance THAT will happen.
07:52:17 <David A pdx> missed sprinkler start!
07:52:47 <David A pdx> but that is only part of the cost issue
07:53:21 <Kevin L™> Yes, but a big part. Give me the option.
07:54:37 <David A pdx> as mentioned earlier there are huge salaries (50,000/day for ceo's), and cost of medications, which are higher here, than say in Canada.
07:54:50 <Kevin L™> I also like the idea of banning drug companies and scumbucket lawyers from advertising. How much healthcare costs are involved in that?
07:55:11 <David A pdx> our wise congress has decided that the government can't use it's buying power to negotiate lower pill costs... (that's not capitalism!).
07:55:34 <David A pdx> that is very true too!
08:00:04 <Kevin L™> One thing to watch out for is if the government runs the healthcare, who regulates it? We had an issue and went to the insurance commission. Guess what? They made the State workers healthcare exempt for insurance commission rules and oversight!
08:01:26 <David A pdx> well, you all have a great day! signing off for now!
08:02:02 <Kevin L™> Have a good one. Wish you better luck with your wood projects than I have had with mine.
08:04:28 <Kevin L™> Looks like it will be a slow morning.
08:14:29 <ynpvisitor61> Daisy
08:14:43 <Jimbo Dy> Just going to say that
08:14:46 <Casey> Morning
08:32:47 <Dave from B> #@!$%
08:34:29 <Casey> I see Dave is losing his temper again.
08:34:46 <ynpvisitor91> Not having a good day Dave?
08:36:56 <Dave from B> haha....just tired of quitting today
08:40:53 <ynpvisitor91> Streaming is having issues for me today.
09:06:32 <Kevin L™> That was a ratther large BH splash.
09:07:24 <Casey> Riverside
09:07:50 <Kevin L™> And Anenome.
09:09:30 <ynpvisitor32> yesterday there was a 4 1/2 hr Aurum interval
09:10:04 <Kevin L™> I am wondering if we may not get a surpruise short BH interval.
09:11:10 <Kevin L™> Pretty start.
09:12:31 <Kevin L™> Steam in F&M area now.
09:12:55 <Kevin L™> Looks like two different plumes.
09:12:57 <Casey> I noticed that. Could it be both? It looks like two separate sources of steam at times.
09:15:46 <ynpvisitor32> the plume earlier was much bigger, that Jake noticed
09:16:18 <Casey> Looks like just Riverside again.
09:16:32 <Kevin L™> Think you are right.
09:17:25 <Casey> Jake spotted a potential F&M plume recently? I've been largely out of the loop for 3-4 days.
09:19:31 <Casey> Now steam in F&M area again.
09:19:53 <Kevin L™> Wind could be swirling now. Looks like the F&M location again. That is why it is tough to tell from the cam view.
09:20:16 <Kevin L™> May be Grotto Fountain.
09:21:15 <ynpvisitor32> there was a large plume there earlier and it might have been Grotto related.
09:21:55 <Kevin L™> Bummer that this is the last week we will have feet on the grond confirmation for a while.
09:22:21 <Dave from B> I wonder where Steve is today...LGB? Norris?
09:22:51 <Casey> Looks like the wind is blowing steam to the right for most features down basin. Maybe the second plume was blown in from the left.
09:28:09 <Casey> Lion
09:28:10 <Kevin L™> No in basin reports on GT today
09:28:12 <Kevin L™> Lion
09:28:48 <Kevin L™> Love Lion initials!
09:30:02 <Jimbo Dy> Yeah, that one looks really good
09:33:47 <Dave from B> another nice BH splash
09:34:19 <Kevin L™> Have to keep a close eye on BH
09:36:14 <ynpvisitor43> BH?
09:36:25 <ynpvisitor43> lotta water
09:36:35 <Casey> Yeah. It's been super splashy
09:38:59 <Kevin L™> Could be interesting.
09:39:25 <Casey> Both of the short BH intervals (~10h) lately happened after dark. I wonder if they were preceded by Indy or not.
09:43:22 <Kevin L™> I think a lot of the real short ones are no indy and are started by a big splash.
09:44:16 <Casey> Thinks. That's kind of my thought as well, but I think I just largely assumed that.
09:44:20 <Casey> (Thanks
09:44:33 <Casey> *Thanks
09:45:21 <Kevin L™> Don't you hate these Dave® keyboards?
09:46:04 <Casey> It's a registered trademark now?
09:46:37 <Casey> I make those mistakes so often, I'm starting to think I may be a contributing factor. Surely I'm wrong, right?
09:46:41 <Kevin L™> He has to do something to pay for that "Affordable Healthcare"
09:48:11 <Kevin L™> More good splashes
09:52:54 <Kevin L™> Depression is hot
10:00:14 <Dave from B> Another big one
10:07:12 <Kevin L™> I think one of those splashes is going to bring BH with it.
10:07:46 <Kevin L™> Have you ever noticed that the new Jeeps look like something Barbie would drive?
10:09:05 <ynpvisitor43> Good for rock smashing I hear :-D
10:09:42 <Kevin L™> I guess they are made by Fiat now.
10:11:11 <ynpvisitor7> Before AMC they were good!
10:12:02 <Kevin L™> They sure were. Even the AMC version was not too bad but not as good as the original.
10:16:26 <Kevin L™> I really liked the Jeeps we had in the Army. Total utility, not many comforts, but they did the job.
10:25:10 <Betty> hi all
10:25:12 <Dave from B> Hi Betty
10:25:28 <Betty> hey Dave from B
10:25:32 <Kevin L™> Hi Betty
10:25:41 <Betty> hi Kevin
10:33:21 <Betty> OF
10:34:36 <Kevin L™> That was a bit early.
10:35:13 <Kevin L™> 2m before the window.
10:39:26 <Betty> a long long
10:39:48 <Kevin L™> Too cold for short shorts!
10:40:02 <Betty> hahaha
10:40:49 <Casey> Hi Betty
10:40:56 <Kevin L™> Steam should clear for Lion.
10:41:19 <Betty> hey Casey
10:51:38 <Jake> Lion
10:51:44 <Betty> Lion
10:55:48 <Betty> hi Jake
10:57:10 <Jake> hi Betty
10:57:23 <Jake> staying all the way until Beehive erupts?
10:57:37 <Betty> sure
10:57:53 <Jake> just another 11 hours to go!
10:58:11 <Betty> nooo, I only have 4 hrs :-(
10:58:18 <Kevin L™> 1630-1700
10:58:29 <Betty> bah
10:58:39 <Jake> it looks better this way: 1630-1700™
10:58:47 <Betty> hhaha
11:03:13 <Kevin L™> Strem is freezing fpr me again
11:04:14 <Betty> a bit choppy, yes
11:05:53 <Betty> depression?
11:06:08 <Betty> steamy runoff
11:08:02 <Betty> hmm, did not see water
11:08:24 <Kevin L™> Never saw a splash but I think it went
11:08:25 <Betty> but looked a lot like ie
11:09:34 <Kevin L™> Look like snow
12:17:33 <ynpvisitor29> POOF
12:49:28 <Betty> SC
12:50:08 <ynpvisitor84> Nice, now call indy for us Please.
12:51:40 <Dave from B> "here indy":)
12:55:37 <ynpvisitor84> Not working, try harder.
12:56:35 <Dave from B> :!:
12:56:44 <Dave from B> That's the big red button
12:57:27 <Dave from B> intervals on Bh have been all over the place the past week or so
12:58:37 <Jake>
12:59:54 <Dave from B> :D
13:08:53 <Kevin L™> Needs CPR
13:32:48 <Kevin L™> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
13:33:13 <Betty> weather is fine...
13:34:09 <Kevin L™> A little chilly.
13:35:41 <ynpvisitor13> The white bugs are back.
13:38:14 <ynpvisitor13> Well...they were..I swear.
13:39:16 <Kevin L™> I usually swear when they come around me!
13:39:36 <Dave from B> All I see is blue sky...what are you talking about?:D
13:39:43 <ynpvisitor13> I'll bet :)
13:40:26 <ynpvisitor13> I've lost it.
13:42:49 <Jake> Oblong ?
13:44:16 <ynpvisitor46> do you think that is sawmill or tardy?
13:45:31 <Kevin L™> We can check after OF.
13:48:07 <Jake> very little steam down there so I'd guess Tardy if either of them are erupting
13:50:15 <Jake> OF ns
13:56:01 <Kevin L™> Doesn't look like Sawmill.
13:56:10 <Betty> tardy
13:57:04 <ynpvisitor46> ok
14:00:16 <Jake> my 1542 Oblong ? might have been Turban. I wasn't impressed by the steam cloud. I expect to be impressed by Oblong's steam cloud on a day like today
14:00:35 <Jake> maybe Turban now
14:09:22 <Kevin L™> Sort of strange how active BH was and nothing from it now for a long time.
14:09:54 <Dave from B> Good observation Kevin.
14:10:54 <Kevin L™> The real bummer is that we have Castle, Daisy, Grand, BH, and Aurum that could go at any time.
14:11:47 <Dave from B> Daisy should be any minute
14:13:36 <Betty> I´ll be the sacrifice for everything and head out. Night all
14:14:01 <Kevin L™> Have a good sleep Betty. TY.
14:18:21 <Jake> Grand
14:18:50 <Jimbo Dy> Check Grand off
14:19:09 <Jake> Checkov's Grand
14:19:40 <Jake> oops, it's "Chekhov"
14:21:19 <Kevin L™> Well Kirk and Spock are down on the planet now with Dr McCoy.
14:23:26 <Dave from B> Thank you Betty
14:24:08 <Dave from B> Grrr...all my posts disappeared from the page
14:24:54 <Dave from B> Must be time to lose my cookies
14:24:59 <Kevin L™> They are investigating you for talking bad about healthcare.
14:25:52 <ynpvisitor9> Don't throw up on your keyboard.
14:25:56 <Dave from B> I made it to THE WATCH LIST?
14:26:52 <Jake> Castle steam drifting into view?
14:28:33 <Jake> apparent 2b on Grand
14:28:33 <ynpvisitor9> Encore
14:29:14 <Dave from B> Nice catch Jake
14:29:57 <Jake> I gotta run so I'll leave the GT entry to someone who can mark maj/min
14:30:25 <Jake> bye all
15:19:30 <ynpvisitor46> is that sawmill now?
15:19:50 <ynpvisitor46> never mind
15:20:34 <Kevin L™> That is OF now!
15:24:18 <Kevin L™> That may be oblong now.
15:25:36 <Kevin L™> That looks like Sawmill to me.
15:27:27 <ynpvisitor46> yeah, has to be
15:33:04 <Kevin L™> Time to feed chickens. Look for Aurum.
15:46:39 <Dave from B> Time for me to head out as well. Have a great evening everyone! Go Dodgers!
15:48:26 <Kevin L™> I think the Dodgers have gone Dave.
15:48:42 <Kevin L™> Sort of like the Seachickens and the Porkers.
15:49:19 <Dave from B> haha. Was just checking to see who was paying attention
15:49:44 <ynpvisitor9> Go Mermaids.
15:49:57 <ynpvisitor9> Spit cone looks hot
15:50:14 <Kevin L™> It was ie a bit ago.
15:50:38 <ynpvisitor9> You feed fast food to the chickens?
15:53:54 <ynpvisitor9> Anemon
15:56:14 <Kevin L™> Lay pellets!
16:01:47 <ynpvisitor46> riverside, probably
16:06:13 <Kevin L™> Only 1 in basin report today and that was in the LGB!
16:07:44 <ynpvisitor46> plus the 1104 riverside
16:08:16 <Kevin L™> Make that 2.
16:08:22 <Kevin L™> Puff from BH.
16:09:27 <ynpvisitor46> Non, je ne parle pas français trés bien.++*6-
16:09:28 <ynpvisitor46> 8*
16:09:58 <ynpvisitor46> Oops, just pressed random keys
16:24:43 <ynpvisitor46> OF ie
17:04:45 <Kevin L™> No daylight BH today. :P
17:12:46 <ynpvisitor51> I thought you said it would go short Kevin?
17:14:41 <Kevin L™> It didn't.
17:17:23 <ynpvisitor51> it shows how nice the splashing can be, and for how long, between eruptions
17:18:14 <Kevin L™> It was very bigg in the morning then nothing in the afternoon.
17:21:14 <ynpvisitor51> I thought folks were still talking splashes around 1400
17:22:56 <ynpvisitor46> gt prediction window ends in 3 minutes
17:25:47 <ynpvisitor51> would we know if it erupted. Hard to believe GT is still giving BH predictions
17:26:48 <ynpvisitor51> i also wonder if a car is parked where it should not be
17:27:31 <ynpvisitor46> probably about half of the eruptions have been outside of the window recently
17:27:45 <Kevin L™> It has messed up any chance we had to see it. Wish his battery would go dead.
17:30:57 <ynpvisitor52> indy a thang?
17:31:09 <ynpvisitor52> someone is lighting a thing over there up
17:34:35 <ynpvisitor68> this is why I dislike bright lights on OF's cine when it isn't erupting. It makes it very hard to see anything else.
17:35:02 <ynpvisitor68> We aren't even in OF's window
17:36:17 <Kevin L™> Been on for about an hour too.
17:46:31 <ynpvisitor51> it moved lately to the other side
17:47:11 <ynpvisitor68> there was one on the left and one on the right
17:47:32 <ynpvisitor68> the one on the right seems to turn off periodically
17:50:29 <ynpvisitor41> Maybe a new grant. Lighted split cone and OF.
17:55:04 <ynpvisitor51> Split Cone does look cool
17:56:49 <ynpvisitor41> maybe they are making a movie
17:57:12 <Kevin L™> Wish they would go to BH
17:57:37 <ynpvisitor41> "the geyser of yellowstone"
17:58:34 <Kevin L™> May be a movie. Only thing that makes sense.
18:00:10 <ynpvisitor32> "this is not the Mirage volcano, folks!"
18:02:06 <ynpvisitor41> tell me when it is over
18:04:30 <ynpvisitor32> the runoff steam does look pretty cool all lit up, though
18:06:41 <ynpvisitor32> all done, yay
18:09:04 <Kevin L™> Bet it was a movie.
18:09:24 <ynpvisitor46> ooh, mysterious lights. interesting
18:10:51 <Kevin L™> The Invaders.
18:11:01 <ynpvisitor46> also, kevin, of was ie at 1824, so I think the 1720 was a short
18:12:10 <Kevin L™> I was looking at that. I was multitasking so I may have messed it up. I would have been a long short though.
18:12:36 <ynpvisitor46> lights are back
18:13:25 <Kevin L™> :p
18:14:46 <ynpvisitor32> great - lens flare
18:14:52 <ynpvisitor68> the 1720 eruption had a duration of 2m5s
18:17:26 <ynpvisitor41> They must not care about other geysers.
18:17:39 <ynpvisitor41> I am out of here
18:18:29 <Kevin L™> ty 68. Looks like a loose nut behind the keyboard here today.
18:19:43 <Kevin L™> Corrected.
18:20:16 <Kevin L™> Perhaps if BH goes, they may shine the lights that way.
18:21:12 <ynpvisitor32> one can hope
18:22:16 <ynpvisitor46> did we miss of sometime?
18:25:22 <ynpvisitor32> it was ie around 20:02 - 20:04. I should have mentioned it in the chat when it started.
18:26:35 <Kevin L™> Cam coverage ended at 1600.
19:31:21 <ynpvisitor32> the stars are sure brilliant tonight!
19:33:45 <ynpvisitor68> I wish that person would turn off their light. It has been on for hours
19:34:28 <ynpvisitor32> hopefully after the next OF
19:35:52 <ynpvisitor68> The light turned on at 1856 and has only been off for a few minutes since then
19:38:25 <ynpvisitor32> yeah, it's a shame. Can see giantess steam from the hill, but that's about it.
19:43:48 <ynpvisitor32> OF
19:52:29 <ynpvisitor32> Ok, so what's being illuminated off in the distance? Depression or Dwarfs?
19:55:33 <ynpvisitor32> nevermind.
20:06:32 <ynpvisitor3> good luck with BH
21:31:44 <ynpvisitor64> Well the lights off...Can't imagine why a few people prefer watching this than something thats lit up...Have fun with that! Goodnight
21:32:37 <ynpvisitor68> Can't see the rest of the basin when the lights are on