Showing logs for date: 2016-11-15
02:01:52 <ynpvisitor4> OF ns
03:09:41 <Betty> Oblong ie
03:29:39 <Betty> OF
03:33:12 <Betty> BH
03:34:26 <Betty> I did not see indy before
03:35:31 <Betty> Daisy
03:35:42 <Betty> I´m really busy
03:41:18 <ynpvisitor4> did I really just miss beehive by a few minutes?
03:41:35 <Betty> sorry, yes
04:20:10 <Dave from B> Why geysers why....can't sleep in for another little bit?
04:20:39 <Betty> morning Dave :-p
04:21:27 <Dave from B> Hi Betty
04:21:45 <Dave from B> I ran into Kitt at Costco last night!
04:22:25 <Betty> sweet. I hope she´s well :-D
04:22:45 <ynpvisitor7> morning, lc here
04:22:55 <ynpvisitor7> did you see Kevin?
04:22:56 <Betty> morning lc
04:27:29 <Dave from B> Yes, I saw Kevin and his 1/8" haircut
04:28:25 <ynpvisitor7> Kitt sent us a picture of him, looked like he had put on a little weight.
04:28:38 <Dave from B> He seemed to be doing well except for a sore foot
04:28:53 <Dave from B> Kitt said Kevin has learned to eat while at training
04:29:45 <ynpvisitor7> we talked to him Sunday, he did sound good.
04:40:56 <ynpvisitor47> riverside ie
04:41:34 <ynpvisitor47> well, probably
04:41:52 <ynpvisitor7> is for sure
04:41:55 <ynpvisitor47> grand
04:43:09 <Betty> Dave, 2 geysers
04:45:49 <Betty> it´s a nice and clear morning today
04:50:42 <Dave from B> Kevin will have nothing to watch by the time he wakes up
04:51:14 <ynpvisitor7> looking like a 1b
04:53:42 <Betty> looks like
05:04:25 <Betty> morning Kevin
05:06:28 <Kevin L™> Is it morning?
05:06:43 <Betty> not here
05:08:12 <Kevin L™> I think it is still night and I am dreaming.
05:09:20 <ynpvisitor18> OF 0709
05:09:23 <Betty> OF
05:12:10 <Kevin L™> Well at least I get one geyser.
05:12:36 <Betty> Lion and Aurum are still due
05:12:50 <Betty> ok, only Lion for you
05:16:00 <Kevin L™> Looks like overflow on Giantess. Maybe I will get it.
05:17:39 <Dave from B> Kevin, it is due!
05:18:03 <Kevin L™> I was driving the last time it went.
05:22:34 <Dave from B> I was laying down
05:26:02 <Kevin L™> Depression looks hot.
05:51:04 <David A pdx> morning all!
05:51:33 <Betty> morning David
05:55:12 <David A pdx> anemone
06:02:38 <David A pdx> i missed start of Sprinkler!
06:20:24 <Dave from B> Anyone heard how Winter season bookings are doing for YNP?
06:23:32 <Betty> are you looking for a trip?
06:25:25 <Jimbo Uranium> Good ol' element 92
06:26:15 <Betty> Morning Jimbo
06:26:29 <David A pdx> Morning Uranium!
06:28:44 <David A pdx> Sprinkler anytime now.
06:29:30 <David A pdx> Sprinkler ie
06:30:04 <Betty> isn´t it the start?
06:31:18 <David A pdx> probably should be rather than ie
06:32:04 <David A pdx> sheesh, it faded really quick.
06:32:20 <David A pdx> or is it the light
06:32:59 <Dave from B> Betty, I would love to do a day trip with gazers like we have done in the past but most gazers want to spend more time in the basin than tour operators want or are able to.
06:36:50 <Betty> Daisy
06:41:43 <Betty> OF
06:41:57 <Dave from B> Love the blue sky today
06:57:03 <kc (working)> dome ie static
06:57:18 <David A pdx> sprinkler
06:57:34 <Betty> morning kc
06:57:54 <kc (working)> mornin'
07:15:18 <David A pdx> people
07:15:37 <Betty> morning, guys
07:17:16 <Betty> is he simulating an earthquake?
07:17:23 <Dave from B> That guy has an awful golf swing
07:17:35 <Betty> haha
07:17:50 <Dave from B> Betty, you could be right
07:18:35 <Betty> dancing like Fred Astaire would have done it as well
07:18:49 <David A pdx> LOL
07:25:00 <David A pdx> sprinkler
07:27:06 <David A pdx> it is interesting to note that the noted sprinkler intervals are 27/28 min this a.m. vs the generally sub 25 min a few days ago.
07:30:05 <Kevin L™> A bit warmer today. Wonder if that has an effect.
07:49:03 <Kevin L™> Hey David, I was turning some Christmas ornaments in cinnamon this morning. Sure made the shop smell nice. I am in the mood for apple pie now!
07:50:32 <David A pdx> now i have the smell of cinnamon in my nose!! thanks!
07:52:51 <Kevin L™> That is one of my favorites to turn. Also doing some in olivewood (from Beethlehem!) and that smells good too. I still like the pickle smell of bocote and it is a pretty wood too.
07:53:01 <David A pdx> sprinkler
07:55:16 <Kevin L™> Maybe we will luck out and get some wildlife today.
07:56:31 <David A pdx> that'd be cool!
07:57:07 <Kevin L™> Those geese were fun. Been a long time since any have been around.
07:57:28 <David A pdx> they were! have they been seen since?
07:58:35 <Kevin L™> I haven't seen any. I love it when you are sitting on the benches at Grand and a flock flies by low in formation. You can hear (unless your eras work like mine now) the air going throuch their feathers.
07:59:11 <David A pdx> i've found the higher pitches bird calls are silent now... ugh
08:00:02 <Dave from B> Funny you should mention geese. We usually have large flocks moving around this time of year. Not sure where they are this year.
08:00:24 <David A pdx> we still have a lot in portland
08:02:07 <Kevin L™> We had a flock of about 200 that must have got lost and landed in the park a block from my house a coupe years ago. People were feeding them and all had a great time. Never seen them before or since.
08:04:14 <Kevin L™> There is a small lake in the middle of the desert near Alamo. A few times I have gone by and there are several times it has had hundreds of swans there. Not really what you expect in the middle of the Nevada desert.
08:04:56 <David A pdx> in proper season, probably not unexpected since they do migrate.
08:05:22 <David A pdx> they used to show up near where I grew up on NoCal coast around Thanksgiving or later - for the winter.
08:05:59 <David A pdx> one of our thanksgiving traditions was to drive out to the beach to see if they had shown up for the winter or not.
08:06:08 <Dave from B> Cold weather in Northern Rockies may get them moving this week
08:07:10 <David A pdx> yep.
08:07:16 <Kevin L™> My kid is in Edmonton right now. Says it is a bit chilly and he sent some pictures of the Canadian Pacific snowplows so they must be expecting something.
08:08:08 <Dave from B> Predicting 6" in Blgs...18-24" in Beartooths/Absarokas
08:08:49 <David A pdx> snow level coming downn to 3,000' elev this week.
08:13:16 <ynpvisitor48> OF 1013
08:18:18 <Kevin L™> At least I get one geyser.
08:18:47 <David A pdx> stick around, you'll get sprinkler momentarily!!
08:18:48 <Betty> was it a long or short?
08:18:55 <ynpvisitor48> long
08:19:02 <Betty> thx
08:19:03 <Kevin L™> long
08:21:35 <David A pdx> sprinkler
08:22:48 <David A pdx> a bit windy today
08:22:58 <Betty> stop shaking the tree, Kevin
08:24:03 <Kevin L™> Dave is doing it, not me!
08:26:10 <David A pdx> next Sprinkler sometime around 10:48 ?
08:26:53 <Kevin L™> Bring the geese this time!
08:27:19 <David A pdx> coyote?
08:27:21 <David A pdx> bison?
08:28:41 <Kevin L™> A moose would be great
08:28:53 <David A pdx> that would be nice!
08:29:02 <Jake> Norris fatality, more information: http://www.kcwy13.com/content/news/Yellowstone-Hot-Springs-Death-401228095.html
08:30:41 <David A pdx> interesting.
08:31:02 <Dave from B> Thanks Jake
08:31:17 <ynpvisitor99> the sister taped the whole thing
08:31:39 <ynpvisitor99> his body disolved in one day
08:31:52 <Jake> Lion ie late
08:31:53 <David A pdx> lion!!
08:32:03 <Kevin L™> Oops!
08:32:06 <David A pdx> probably didn't expect what happened...
08:32:27 <ynpvisitor99> I am aure not
08:32:41 <ynpvisitor99> sure
08:32:45 <Jake> I'm still looking for the actual NPS report so if anyone finds it, please forward it on
08:36:58 <Dave from B> So, NPS will try to mitigate the effetcs of huge visitation numbers....Last year they added more bathrooms. What do you think they will do this offseason?
08:44:34 <Jake> I don't know what else would fit that kind of minor infrastructure project that is doable in a short time frame
08:44:44 <Kevin L™> Put a bench by Aurum!
08:45:21 <Jake> Grand Prismatic overlook trail will be done in 2017 or 18?
08:45:30 <David A pdx> build a bw so we can see Sprinkler closer! like on the other side of the river!
08:45:48 <Dave from B> I wish they would try a shuttle between OF and all Firehole basins all the way to Madison Campground
08:46:13 <David A pdx> that would get rid of quite a bit of congestion.
08:46:13 <Jake> are you guys trying to list all the things that surely 100% will NOT happen?
08:46:19 <Dave from B> I wish they would put a trail out to Kaleidoscope Geyser area
08:46:31 <Kevin L™> Raise fees.
08:46:38 <David A pdx> it is a dream list!!
08:47:13 <Dave from B> Jake, shuttle isn't as far away as you may think....something has to be done to get cars off the road so buses can get around!:)
08:47:38 <Dave from B> Even if 5% of cars stayed in a parking lot instead of on a road it would help
08:47:38 <David A pdx> where would the put a huge parking lot?
08:47:46 <ynpvisitor99> Grand Prismatic overlook closed all 2017 season
08:48:11 <Dave from B> That is the question. If you put one at West, people in other gateway communtieis would be mad.
08:48:18 <ynpvisitor99> no shuttles planned
08:48:34 <Kevin L™> World's first log multilevel parking garage!
08:48:40 <ynpvisitor99> shuttles would kill guide business in surrounding communities
08:48:47 <ynpvisitor99> or a lot of it
08:49:01 <ynpvisitor99> the same type people that want a guide would take a shuttle
08:49:09 <David A pdx> yep, but to/from UGB it would make sense, unless you also have shuttle buses to/from other destinations in park
08:49:24 <Jake> Shuttles are at least 5 years away, I'd guess 10 years
08:49:33 <ynpvisitor99> how would it make sense? Where would you park?
08:49:49 <Dave from B> Yes, guide business will suffer but we need to find a way to get some people to leave their cars behind
08:49:51 <David A pdx> maybe just park at OF and have one go down basin and back
08:50:05 <ynpvisitor99> the NPS file on the death is highly redacted, according to TV video
08:50:33 <Jake> Self-driving cars revolutionizing the way to see the park will alleviate the NPS from having to do anything before they get around to do anything.
08:50:59 <Jake> that's my prediction, open to change if somehow the NPS gets a big influx of cash from Congress
08:51:24 <ynpvisitor11> hahaha...with trump, they are bound to get less.
08:52:16 <ynpvisitor11> look for geothermal companies in the park soon.
08:52:19 <David A pdx> sprinkler - ie i think
08:52:28 <David A pdx> yep
08:52:53 <Kevin L™> Remember it was harry reid and his geothermal plants that ruined all the geysers in Nevada.
08:53:15 <David A pdx> we should have learned from the Kiwis...
08:53:48 <Dave from B> So, when people resit shuttle ideas is it because you think that leads to cars completely out of the park. I'm always amazed at the strong opinions on this issue. Not meaning to argue but I want to know how other people feel.
08:54:20 <Jake> cheap energy is way more valuable than geysers to most people
08:54:22 <ynpvisitor99> it just is not a park that is suitable for shuttles
08:54:38 <ynpvisitor11> science
08:54:55 <ynpvisitor99> too big, shuttle full after OF, then what?
08:54:59 <Kevin L™> I think the shuttle system has worked well in Zion Canyon. It should be an option in Yellowstone but not mandatory.
08:55:02 <ynpvisitor99> people stew about and wait?
08:55:09 <David A pdx> paying no taxes is also more important than parks to some people...
08:55:10 <ynpvisitor11> shuttle has worked great in glacier too
08:55:13 <ynpvisitor99> Zion and Yellowstone are nothing alike
08:55:19 <ynpvisitor99> again, nothing alike
08:55:21 <Jake> sure it is suitable for shuttles, just have to design it correctly
08:55:37 <ynpvisitor11> more suitable for shuttles then cars!
08:56:05 <ynpvisitor99> except it's not 11
08:56:22 <ynpvisitor99> will there even be National Parks in 4 years?
08:56:29 <Dave from B> Well, the NPS has big issues ahead of it. They will continue to feel more and more pressure to do something about visitation. I hope they don't limit it. That is my biggest fear.
08:56:51 <David A pdx> the lack of parking in some areas didn't allow me to see some of the highlights in June. but, if there were regular shuttles we could have.
08:56:56 <ynpvisitor11> That I cannot tell you 99, but something has to change in the park...driving is horrible and parking is impossible in the summer
08:56:57 <Kevin L™> Very true 99. That is why I say have it as an option for certain locations, but don't stop car travel as they have in Zion.
08:57:12 <David A pdx> can't keep paving over parkland for larger parking lots.
08:57:20 <ynpvisitor11> Agree David A
08:57:43 <ynpvisitor11> Glacier has open roads and good, fast shuttle options
08:57:46 <Dave from B> How about a monorail?:D:D
08:57:49 <ynpvisitor99> there is plenty of parkland that could become parking without any resource damage
08:57:53 <ynpvisitor11> subway dave
08:57:58 <Dave from B> haha
08:57:58 <David A pdx> LOL!
08:58:01 <ynpvisitor11> ala westworld :-P
08:58:02 <David A pdx> light rail!
08:58:05 <Kevin L™> We have one here that they can have Dave!
08:58:06 <ynpvisitor99> ha ha, see how Yellowstone works from below
08:58:19 <ynpvisitor99> a monorail was tossed about in the 70's
08:58:27 <ynpvisitor11> exactly...clear tube transport underground
08:58:33 <ynpvisitor99> makes the most sense, yet never got very far
08:59:16 <ynpvisitor99> the shuttle issue just seems huge, say 100 folks at Midway want to get on a 25 person shuttle?
08:59:28 <ynpvisitor99> or after OF erupts, it could be hundreds
09:00:00 <Kevin L™> Beam me to Fountain Scotty!
09:00:15 <ynpvisitor99> there are NO services at Midway, Biscuit, or FPP
09:00:19 <David A pdx> 99, on one hand people look at the open spaces in Oregon that are east of the Cascade mountains and say there is plenty of space for people to live. but where's the water below the desert?
09:00:24 <Jake> Shuttles every 5 - 10 minutes. A fleet waiting for post-OF crowds. Higher volume of shuttles during the day. Express routes for back to West Yellowstone from OF
09:00:56 <David A pdx> Jake! I like it!
09:01:17 <ynpvisitor99> They do not even want to keep lodges open, they would not like some huge shuttle fleet that is only utilized to maximum capacity less than 60 days a year
09:01:34 <ynpvisitor11> Yes, that is pretty easy to manage and I bet totally predicatable...easier than geysers :-P
09:02:14 <Jake> I understand the cost would be great, but it's not impossible to implement.
09:02:27 <ynpvisitor11> 99, the "they" you are referring to is the park service or the contractor?
09:03:13 <Jake> The pressure to "do something" about visitation/crowding would have to get big enough and I don't think the pressure will ever be great enough to bring big changes other than something simple like daily gate quotas.
09:03:19 <ynpvisitor48> Gas at $7 a gallon would solve the problem.
09:03:39 <ynpvisitor11> doesn't it already cost that in west? :-P
09:04:03 <David A pdx> not in Oregon. Europe maybe though.
09:04:10 <ynpvisitor48> I'm talking nationwide
09:04:11 <Jake> Yes! there's an immediate and effective solution that is much more likely to happen before shuttles
09:04:28 <ynpvisitor11> west yellowstone I meant David.
09:04:34 <Jake> YNP NPS just has to bide their time and the problem will solve itself
09:04:46 <ynpvisitor11> or get worse
09:05:12 <Dave from B> People will stop coming because of overcrowding Jake?
09:05:23 <ynpvisitor11> is there something white at scissor spring?
09:05:45 <David A pdx> just finished my healthcare app. hopefully I'll have healthcare at least until April when I get to go on medicare!
09:05:48 <Jake> since most visitors are first-and-only-time visitors, there's not much incentive to improve their experience. It is a small percentage of people that are affected greatly by the overcrowding
09:05:49 <ynpvisitor11> hmmm, guess just steam and video artificating
09:06:25 <David A pdx> it would be awesome to have live cams at different locations, but hey, we can still dream!
09:06:47 <Dave from B> Jake, you're probably right. I'll be anxious to read more about last falls visitor survey
09:06:47 <David A pdx> i'm signing off for now. have fun!
09:07:17 <ynpvisitor99> Medicare may be gone in 4 years too
09:10:36 <ynpvisitor48> We will see more DC gridlock, nothing good or bad will happen :(
09:12:02 <ynpvisitor11> Totally disagree 48...lot's bad is going to happen.
09:12:14 <ynpvisitor48> Since we are a nation of educators, talk will hapen, but nothing else
09:13:06 <ynpvisitor48> hapen= happen
09:13:34 <Dave from B> I would love to respond but in the sake of peace here I will be quiet about politics
09:13:53 <Casey> Is America great again yet?
09:14:15 <Casey> Also, hi everybody
09:14:21 <ynpvisitor11> Hi Casey
09:14:30 <Betty> hi Casey
09:14:50 <Kevin L™> Frankly this is the first time we have not had a politician or a lawyer as a president. Should be interesting.
09:15:04 <ynpvisitor11> Ronald Reagan?
09:15:17 <Casey> Reagan had been governor of California
09:15:20 <ynpvisitor11> Guess he was a politician
09:15:23 <Kevin L™> Ronald Reagan was a Governor.
09:15:26 <ynpvisitor11> not a veyr good one :-P
09:16:41 <ynpvisitor11> Ronald Reagan was an actor...not a politician.
09:17:02 <Jimbo Uranium> Eisenhower wasn't a politician first (and had some transition problems, according to reports)
09:17:03 <Kevin L™> I liked him as both.
09:17:28 <Kevin L™> True Jimbo.
09:17:36 <Betty> look, since you talked about politics, the weather got bad :-p
09:17:42 <Jimbo Uranium> Then there's Ulysses S. Grant...
09:17:52 <Kevin L™> I had this quote on my wall at NDOT:
09:17:55 <Kevin L™> Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to liberty are narurally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers, but the greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning, but without understanding. Louis D. Brandeis (D) US Supreme Court Justice C.E. 1928
09:17:55 <ynpvisitor48> During Reagan years my saving accounts earned 6%+ now 0.1%
09:18:48 <Casey> I think you may be on to something, Betty
09:19:32 <ynpvisitor11> That had nothing to do with Reagan 48
09:20:10 <Dave from B> ok..I guess I will get involved......
09:20:15 <Kevin L™> Frankly I think our Founding Fathers did such a great job it woud be hard for any administration to mess things up too bad AS LONG AS THEY ABIDE BY THE RULES OF THE CONSTITUTION.
09:20:41 <ynpvisitor48> YES
09:20:42 <Jake> with Carter, interest was like 20%!
09:21:23 <Kevin L™> I remember buying my first house, I was SOOOO excited when interest went down to 12.5%!
09:22:43 <Dave from B> Know why Dem's lost? They didn't provdie the public with a good enough candidate. People were tired of the same old regurgitated family. You want to win the elcetion....give us a candidate who is about change when change is desired....real simple...And then Dem's protest because they lost. PICK A BETTER CANDIDATE.. and, I didn't vote for Trump.
09:22:45 <Jake> back to YNP, if I were superintendent, and I look at my budget and $100's of millions in backlog infrastructure projects, overcrowding doesn't look like much of an issue. It is an issue that can get you potentially fired or leave you with an unforunate legacy
09:23:54 <Casey> Jake for superintendent. You heard it here first.
09:24:44 <Jake> the raising entrance fees ship has sailed because of the legal-fu required to change them again in the next few years. The next best source of revenue is....wealthy donors?
09:24:44 <ynpvisitor11> I don't disagree Dave, there were much better choices available on the D side.
09:25:05 <Kevin L™> Being a State worker for 32 years I was appalled with how much money was wasted. If you look you can do the job better and cheaper. Problem is most just keep whining to get more money from the taxpayer. A businessman works with the money he takes in and makes the most of it.
09:25:33 <Kevin L™> There were better choices on the R side too!
09:25:47 <ynpvisitor11> I definitely agree with that!
09:28:48 <Kevin L™> I sure wish Aurum would go now when we could see the darn thing.
09:28:49 <Jake> thought experiment: if YNP were privatized, would it be more or less crowded?
09:28:56 <ynpvisitor99> That Brandeis quote was a warning about men like Trump
09:29:12 <ynpvisitor99> who does not read, never mind understand the constitution
09:29:25 <ynpvisitor99> i would guess LESS CROWDED Jake
09:29:40 <Dave from B> Jake, it would only be for the very rich. entrance fees would be Disneylandesque
09:29:44 <ynpvisitor99> would entirely depend on how they marketed it
09:30:00 <ynpvisitor99> many poor people go to Disneyland
09:30:15 <Kevin L™> Certain things would not be good privatized. The parks would be one of them.
09:30:43 <Dave from B> Beehive geyser brought to you by the Ford Motor Company
09:31:18 <Jake> I think Disneyland is expensive (not worth the cost to me), but I'm sure I would also find it crowded
09:31:52 <Kevin L™> Concession were originally made so people could stay in the park at reasonable rates. Need i say more?
09:32:07 <Jake> I'm sure Disney is very good at pricing entrance fees to maximize profits at the gate and also getting people through the gate to spend more money inside
09:32:58 <Kevin L™> I used to go to Disneyland a couple times a year. Last time I went was about 7 years ago and then i went because I got free tickets for some volunteer work I did.
09:33:14 <Kevin L™> Cha Ching.
09:36:01 <Kevin L™> We havee some idiot that keeps trying to get us to partner with him on our Zion land so he can build $400 a night rooms. He would have better luck with me if he were trying to do $75 a night rooms that would accommodate families who want their children to experience Zion.
09:38:39 <Casey> You're a good man Kevin. If parks ever do get privatized, I hope they are run by people like you who see the value of the parks beyond the dollar figures.
09:42:37 <Jake> giving the poor access to a limited resource? we'd have visitation panels!
09:44:03 <Kevin L™> I was really lucky as a kid since my Uncle was a ranger at Zion. We got some awesome tours from him as a kid. I even got to walk through the tunnel several times!
09:44:41 <Casey> OF
09:45:56 <Casey> I'm jealous, Kevin. That tunnel is incredible.
09:47:00 <Kevin L™> One of the most impressive hies I ever did was the Narrows at Zion. If you can do that it is awesome. VERY hard hike but worth it. You should find someone experienced to go with since it is dangerous.
09:48:35 <Kevin L™> We would take pink popcorn and munch on it and feed it to chipmunsk from the windows. Some of my relatives helped build the tunnel and they did a lot of the fancy stonework including the bridge and the bottom as you go up to the tunnel.
09:48:59 <Kevin L™> Fast moving clouds.
09:49:20 <Casey> Lion
09:49:42 <Kevin L™> Got this one!
09:49:56 <ynpvisitor11> Last one must have been ini
09:50:42 <Kevin L™> It most likely was. We did get a great Sprinkler though!
09:51:36 <Casey> I think you messed up your post, Kevin. You posted it as 1142.
09:52:42 <Kevin L™> ty. Not sure how I did that one.
09:52:57 <Casey> No problem
09:53:16 <Kevin L™> It was a long day yesterday.
09:54:39 <Betty> Aurum
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09:55:13 <ynpvisitor99> If they privatized the park, there would be all kind of lawsuits from Xanterra and DN I would guess, as they have 20 year plans in place which are very expensive to them
09:55:25 <Betty> too late, Kevin
09:55:27 <Casey> Of course it hides behind the steam. Good catch, Betty.
09:55:36 <ynpvisitor99> I saw it though!
09:55:39 <Kevin L™> Nice catch Betty missed it in the steam
09:55:44 <ynpvisitor99> thanks Betty
09:55:46 <Betty> ty
09:55:50 <ynpvisitor11> Does Xanterra have a 20 year contract 99?
09:56:07 <ynpvisitor74> yes they do
09:56:14 <ynpvisitor99> I think so, it just started
09:56:15 <ynpvisitor74> we are about 4 years into that contract
09:56:31 <ynpvisitor99> not even 4 years are we? If so, time flies
09:57:11 <Will B> it began just before i started working in the park and this was my 4th season
09:57:25 <ynpvisitor11> Yep, just read it...2033 the contract will end
09:57:37 <Betty> hi Will
09:57:40 <ynpvisitor11> started in 2013
09:57:44 <Kevin L™> Hi Will.
09:58:18 <Betty> Will, do you know you are on google street view at F&M?
09:58:28 <ynpvisitor11> will be 3 years into contract on 12/1
09:58:31 <Will B> yep
09:58:45 <Will B> you can also find Jim S
09:58:50 <Will B> and kent
09:59:31 <Kevin L™> It is interesting the changes made in the park. I remember the main road going between the Inn and the Lodge with a traffic signal. Cabins were $7 a night.
10:04:27 <Dave from B> Did you ride your horst to that cabin, Kevin?:)
10:04:32 <Dave from B> horse*
10:04:57 <Kevin L™> I did stay at Fleigerhorst Germany Dave.
10:05:43 <Betty> you mean Fliegerhorst
10:05:50 <Kevin L™> Close Dave. I sold my Pinto shortly before I went there and took my Ford truck.
10:06:16 <Kevin L™> One of those horsts Betty! :)
10:06:29 <Betty> hehe
10:07:21 <Kevin L™> It was a fun place Betty. Really enjoyed the Hanau area.
10:07:44 <Dave from B> Kevin, my dictionary is twice the size of Webster's!
10:07:58 <Betty> hahaha
10:09:06 <ynpvisitor99> only twice?
10:24:18 <Betty> is Plate erupting?
10:24:27 <Will B> no
10:24:30 <Betty> there are steam puffs
10:24:47 <Will B> nope
10:24:55 <Will B> just dragon spring
10:24:59 <Betty> thanks
10:26:37 <Kevin L™> Something to look at anyway.
10:27:39 <Kevin L™> Daisy is running way long. I don't think we missed it.
10:27:51 <Kevin L™> Wind is 10g18
10:34:24 <Will B> Daisy ie
10:34:27 <ynpvisitor99> Daisy is ie
10:35:56 <Kevin L™> It erupts like Aurum!
10:36:44 <Kevin L™> Interesting report on killed geysers in Nevada: https://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/1998/report.pdf
10:43:38 <ynpvisitor11> So those geysers where dead way before harry reid.
10:45:45 <Kevin L™> These were in another group but mostly killed by the drilling.
10:46:03 <Kevin L™> It is in the north east side of the state.
10:47:33 <Kevin L™> There are alos some hot geothermal areas at Cartoon City. I know someone who has a well where he has to have a "cold water" tank. The water comes in hot and he has cooling tanks for normal water use.
10:48:53 <Kevin L™> The reason I target harry on this is he used it in a political commercial.
10:51:38 <ynpvisitor11> I thought it was a more recent thing...sad that ignorance and greed killed them.
10:52:10 <ynpvisitor11> That is a really cool paper btw Kevin...thanks for sharing
10:52:37 <Kevin L™> A real bummer. They would have been so fun. They should have been protected as a State Park.
10:54:02 <Kevin L™> The cover of the 1955 Official highway map had a picture of one of the geysers on it. I will see if I can find the link.
10:54:13 <ynpvisitor11> definitely...would have been a great state park and treasure of Nevada
10:54:57 <ynpvisitor11> Probably would have received more in tourism dollars then any of the energy it has produced.
10:55:03 <Kevin L™> Here is the map: https://www.nevadadot.com/uploadedFiles/NDOT/Traveler_Info/Maps/1955HwyMapDuplexWeb.pdf
10:55:57 <Kevin L™> For sure. Right on the highway between Reno and the State Capitol.
10:56:17 <ynpvisitor11> The nevada deer hunting party picture is awesome
10:57:25 <Kevin L™> They sure got the most out of that poor Jeep.
11:01:38 <Betty> Lion seems to be done
11:02:19 <Kevin L™> That last one seemed weak. First one couldn't have been that strong either.
11:03:10 <Betty> maybe not dead yet
11:03:35 <Kevin L™> Not in good health though.
11:06:39 <Dave from B> Time to go watch some TV while moving my legs...bbl
11:07:12 <Kevin L™> Watching an episode of the VEGA$ TV series. Had a sign for the Silver Slipper with Breakfast for 89¢ and lunch buffet for $2.95. Those were the days!
11:07:40 <Kevin L™> You need a pedal generator Dave.
11:15:40 <Kevin L™> Grand'
11:15:44 <Jimbo Uranium> Hello Grand
11:15:56 <Betty> yay
11:15:57 <Kevin L™> This one was sneaky
11:16:33 <Will B> Its GRANDE TACO on taco tuesday!
11:25:32 <Betty> weeee
11:25:37 <Jimbo Uranium> Seconded!
11:27:06 <Kevin L™> Arizona pipeline got me again.
11:29:16 <Kevin L™> Looks like we missed OF too
11:31:19 <Kevin L™> Guess not!
11:52:06 <Betty> nice splashing at BH
11:55:12 <ynpvisitor3> i like big dick and im gay
11:57:50 <Kevin L™> Kindercar must be out.
11:58:06 <Betty> ugh
11:58:43 <Betty> at least he found out by himself^^
12:00:39 <Kevin L™> I don't understand why these idiots seem to think all chat pages are for perverts.
12:17:32 <ynpvisitor54> wild clouds
12:18:07 <Kevin L™> Fun watching them move.
12:20:17 <ynpvisitor54> so low to the ground
12:22:22 <Kevin L™> Looks like snow forecast for the next 2 days.
12:25:32 <ynpvisitor54> these clouds need to move on then, they are keeping it pretty warm
12:29:48 <Kevin L™> I bet it cools off tonight.
12:30:57 <ynpvisitor54> we'll see
12:39:30 <Kevin L™> Getting darker
12:43:34 <ynpvisitor15> Interesting steam by the goggles...and Lion
12:46:21 <ynpvisitor15> pump or Aurem?
12:46:43 <ynpvisitor54> they are not by Goggles
12:47:01 <ynpvisitor15> No, that was a few minutes ago
12:47:09 <Betty> pump
12:47:15 <ynpvisitor54> yes
12:47:22 <ynpvisitor15> was leaningthat way, but it seemed off
12:47:47 <Kevin L™> I would love a 2h Aurum.
12:57:51 <Kevin L™> BH getting splashiy
13:00:02 <ynpvisitor54> so anywhere in the next 10 hours?
13:00:04 <Betty> oops
13:00:14 <ynpvisitor54> ha ha, a few oops today
13:00:28 <Betty> ;-)
13:01:04 <Betty> can we call you the cam oops today, Kevin :-D ?
13:02:41 <Kevin L™> I think they are messing with the cables again today. I have had several times when the internet just goes off for a minute or two. May be doing splices for the damage done by Arizona Pipeline earlier.
13:03:10 <Kevin L™> Really ticked me off when I missed the Grand 2nd burst.
13:04:49 <Kevin L™> I got about 3m+ of water so I am going to say long.
13:05:26 <Betty> I´m with you
13:06:00 <Kevin L™> I am afraid to move the cam again for fear it may not go back. :P
13:06:36 <Betty> be brave!
13:13:05 <Dave from B> Of course I missed Grand...surprised it wasn't a 3b.
13:13:59 <Betty> if it was a 3b I wanted to thank you :-)
13:14:08 <Kevin L™> Stick around for a 4h Aurum.
13:14:48 <Betty> I vote for a early bee
13:15:08 <Betty> an*
13:15:41 <Kevin L™> I will go for that!
13:20:32 <Kevin L™> a bit of a Lion poof.
13:22:13 <Dave from B> Sorry, you're going to have to pick on someone else the rest of the day. Need to go downstairs for the rest of the day. Have a great evening everyone!
13:22:44 <Kevin L™> We will still pick on you. You just won't know it.
13:22:47 <Betty> bye, Dave
13:22:54 <Betty> haha
13:24:04 <Betty> Daisy
13:24:29 <Kevin L™> Early this time.
13:25:37 <Dave from B> Are you picking on me if I never know it?:D
13:25:58 <Kevin L™> You will never know, will you?
13:28:02 <Kevin L™> Wow! Even got it back!
13:28:34 <Betty> you did good
13:32:02 <ynpvisitor26> Wi should all rivirsi the 'e' and 'i' keys on our computers just for Davi.
13:32:25 <Kevin L™> :)
13:33:02 <ynpvisitor26> E thenk Bh es riady.
13:33:24 <ynpvisitor26> Thes es hard.
13:39:50 <Betty> Aurum
13:39:51 <Betty> .
13:39:52 <Betty> .
13:39:53 <Betty> .
13:39:53 <Betty> .
13:39:54 <Betty> .
13:40:18 <Kevin L™> :)
13:40:21 <Casey> Thanks again Betty
13:40:34 <Betty> yw
13:41:03 <Betty> 3h46, wow
13:42:23 <Betty> Kevin, you told Dave to stick around for the 4h Aurum.
13:42:50 <Kevin L™> I was jsut joking! I like it though.
13:46:24 <ynpvisitor26> bee burp
13:47:16 <Kevin L™> Nothing worse than bee gas
14:04:34 <ynpvisitor73> silent Bee would be much worse
14:08:59 <Kevin L™> It is those silent ones that are the worst!
14:09:24 <ynpvisitor12> silent Bee deadly
14:09:34 <Kevin L™> :)
14:09:55 <Kevin L™> Human people out there now.
14:11:50 <Kevin L™> Pretty playful right now.
14:30:13 <Betty> hey, Rockford!
14:30:21 <ynpvisitor73> OF
14:30:30 <ynpvisitor73> Pretty light
14:45:49 <Casey> I'm calling it a day. Bye everybody.
14:46:11 <Betty> bye, Casey
14:46:54 <ynpvisitor73> well, we'll see if it turns white for the morning...
14:52:04 <ynpvisitor73> definitely has been a very interesting cloud day
15:05:42 <ynpvisitor47> oblong ie?
15:05:53 <Betty> yep
15:12:09 <Betty> Lion heating up again
15:12:37 <Betty> Lion
15:14:12 <Michael> How nice of it to return before dark!
15:14:51 <Betty> Hi Michael
15:16:44 <Michael> Hi Betty.
15:19:33 <Kevin L™> With this clould cover the supermoon may not show up at all. :P
15:20:25 <Betty> wasn´t that the last night?
15:21:58 <Kevin L™> Yes, but it will be brighter than normal for about a week.
15:23:06 <Kevin L™> A couple of days ago the cam was trying to go to daylight mode about midnight.
15:23:44 <Kevin L™> It will be interesting to see what the eclipse does on the cam next year.
15:24:10 <Michael> !
15:24:39 <Michael> I can't wait! (Except I'm going to be at work the whole time...)
15:26:51 <Kevin L™> The center will be about 2 miles south of my Daughter's place in Idaho. I already made reservations at her place.
15:31:38 <Kevin L™> I could not believe the price of rooms that day. The normal $65 Super 8 was $410!
15:31:47 <Betty> good luck with an early BH. Night all
15:32:07 <Michael> Night Betty.
15:32:16 <Kevin L™> auf wiedersehen
15:34:41 <Michael> Somebody's out there heading toward Geyser Hill.
15:34:50 <Michael> Or the bison have a night-light.
16:11:13 <ynpvisitor24> OF ie
16:11:14 <ynpvisitor24> ns
16:11:27 <Jake> where's all the light?
16:12:36 <ynpvisitor81> Above the clouds.
16:28:05 <ynpvisitor80> Where is the big moon?
16:28:10 <ynpvisitor80> Where is BH?
16:28:31 <ynpvisitor18> moonrise is officially in one minute
16:28:34 <ynpvisitor80> I protest, I want a recount!
16:29:26 <ynpvisitor80> Does not make me feel any better, wounder why they do it.
16:40:49 <ynpvisitor18> is Lion ie?
16:41:50 <ynpvisitor80> Sure, looks too tall for Indy, not tall enough for bee.
16:51:31 <ynpvisitor18> steam from Castle area; interval is about right.
16:56:51 <ynpvisitor80> well will chack on the moon later.
17:00:33 <Kevin L™> I think the pilot light went out.
17:27:56 <Kevin L™> That is Lion or BH
17:28:50 <Kevin L™> Iam leaning toward BH
18:18:51 <ynpvisitor69> So are you sure I missed Bh?
18:20:27 <ynpvisitor69> GT is little help as both BH and Lion have few durations listed. Both seem to be 5 min.
18:25:58 <ynpvisitor69> So a question for Wednesday. Did the element table guy get the Jeopardy answer?
18:44:08 <kcmule> grand
18:47:30 <ynpvisitor69> Or a real big Vent!
18:48:56 <ynpvisitor69> Is it time for a 2 hour Aurum?
18:54:39 <ynpvisitor69> Do I hear a second?
18:56:26 <ynpvisitor69> bah
18:57:11 <Kevin L™> The steam I saw looked like the BH area byt I am not 100% sure. It seemed higher and thicker than I would have expected from Lion
18:57:49 <Kevin L™> It may be time for a 2h AUrum. I have to go to the shop.
18:58:45 <kcmule> pushing 16 hrs on castle unless we missed a minor
19:00:35 <ynpvisitor24> https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-man-died-yellowstone-looking-hot-pot-163205229.html
19:00:46 <ynpvisitor24> Anyone for taking a dip?
19:02:11 <ynpvisitor24> You would think they would have a facebook page or something so they do not get boiled.
19:02:50 <ynpvisitor24> #skinnydippingyellowstone or something.
19:03:24 <ynpvisitor24> No clothing required, the acid water will desolve it.
19:27:46 <kcmule> daisy ie
19:38:36 <kcmule> OF
19:52:46 <ynpvisitor52> My feed is down
19:53:25 <ynpvisitor52> Now its back
21:17:07 <kcmule> OF
21:21:53 <ynpvisitor57> A really long one