Showing logs for date: 2017-05-22
04:43:10 <ynpvisitor29> of
05:24:19 <Jimbo Manganese> In the pink (Mn2+ in solution is pink)
06:04:25 <Kevin L™> Grand?
06:04:42 <Kevin L™> Yep.
06:05:06 <Kevin L™> In an OF window to boot. :(
06:07:14 <Dave from B> Do you expect anything different?
06:07:37 <Kevin L™> A normal day at the park.
06:28:04 <Dave from B> Is that Grotto behind the trees?
06:28:11 <Dave from B> OF ie 0828
06:39:45 <Eric> Morning
06:41:54 <Dave from B> Morning Eric
06:43:56 <Dave from B> Daisy ie
06:43:56 <Eric> daisy ie
06:44:02 <Eric> :-)
06:48:47 <Dave from B> Now, my June trip is 60% complete...2 nights left
06:54:18 <Eric> nice
06:54:25 <Eric> lots will open up this week
06:54:51 <Dave from B> Yep. I had to grab a more expensive room for 6/25. I'll trade for chaeaper if I find one.
07:16:08 <Betty> morning all
07:16:22 <Dave from B> Hi Betty
07:16:35 <Betty> hey Dave :-)
07:20:54 <Jenna> morning Betty
07:21:27 <Betty> hi Jenna, how are you? the kids are fine?
07:22:17 <Jenna> I am good, thanks for asking! How are you? They are good, exhausting, but good :) Conor's last day of school is Wednesday and I am excited!
07:22:53 <Betty> sounds great. I´m fine too :-)
07:22:54 <Eric> Morning Betty and Jenna
07:23:04 <Jenna> hi Eric
07:23:04 <Betty> hi Eric
07:25:42 <Dave from B> Jenna, I'm on the other end...Becca's last day of high school is Thursday
07:26:37 <Jenna> ah, that is bittersweet!
07:26:48 <Jenna> where is she going to college? I'm sure you've said
07:28:27 <Dave from B> University of Portland
07:28:58 <Jenna> ooh that's a bit of a drive
07:29:09 <Jenna> what is she studying?
07:30:41 <Dave from B> Following in her mother's footsteps....secondary education teacher
07:31:42 <Jenna> ah yes, I knew that. Conor's just done with kindergarten.....I am not thinking of college. except saving for it haha.
07:31:46 <Eric> She will be an awesome teacher :-)
07:32:48 <Dave from B> Jenna, you are starting to save at the right time. We saved since Becca and Parker were born and we may be able to cover 2.5 years of their college
07:33:19 <Dave from B> Thank god Becca got a 92K Scholarship.
07:34:31 <Jenna> oh wow yeah that is going to be very helpful! Conor is a momma's boy so maybe he'll stay close to home and it'll be cheaper haha.
07:41:49 <Dave from B> It's nice to see good old fashion work pay off once in awhile.
07:43:14 <Jenna> that's true, doesn't happen as often as it should
07:44:00 <Dave from B> Is this day and age of athleticf scholarships, it is nice to see money given to academic performers
07:44:16 <Kevin L™> Amen to that!
07:44:37 <Betty> hi Kevin
07:44:43 <Kevin L™> HI
07:52:07 <Eric> Hi Kevin...thought you might be sleeping :-)
07:52:14 <Eric> or feeding those chickens
07:57:29 <Kent> Not the best wind direction
08:08:03 <Kent> 1007 with delay
08:16:47 <Betty> hi Kent
08:18:37 <Kevin L™> I wish I was sleeping Eric. Long weekend.
08:19:11 <Eric> Hopefully a good long weekend, not a bad one :-(
08:20:42 <Kevin L™> A bit of both. Lot of chores and I went out Saturday to watch grown men crash expensive cars at the local short track. Was up later than Betty the last couple of nights.
08:21:04 <ynpvisitor...> Hi Betty
08:21:17 <Eric> ahhh, that is a good fun weekend :-)
08:21:33 <Dave from B> Yep...Betty sets the standards for us
08:21:39 <Eric> haha
08:23:02 <Dave from B> Eric, rooms popping up 3-5 times a day now:)
08:23:27 <Kevin L™> The great thing is the track gave Veterans and their families free tickets this weekend. Pretty good night. Had two touring series and had a lot of racing and not a lot of crashing.
08:24:41 <Betty> you can learn a lot of me ;-)
08:24:57 <Kevin L™> Peaches should be ripe this week. Chickens have already discovered the low hangers.
08:29:34 <Eric> Yep Dave, they should be tons this week. Not free to cancel after the 25th :-)
08:31:47 <Dave from B> Dang...that means my June 20-25 reservation will cost me...forgot to cancel...grrr
08:33:52 <Eric> $15
08:34:15 <Dave from B> That's barely a beer at the Bruins game
08:34:21 <Kevin L™> Xanterra gives and Xanterra takes away!
08:35:37 <Kevin L™> That is 7½ hot dogs at the short track.
08:38:38 <Dave from B> Don't forget the Elka Seltzer or Tums if you're going that direction, Kevin
08:39:37 <Kevin L™> :)
08:41:26 <Kevin L™> Have you seen the 4th of July Oreos?
09:02:08 <Betty> LC ie
09:05:14 <Dave from B> I haven't Kevin
09:07:52 <Kevin L™> They are fun. They have red, and blue pop rocks in the white stuff.
09:08:18 <Kevin L™> BTW Betty that was Aurum I saw yesterday at 1216
09:11:38 <ynpvisitor13> osprey!
09:12:28 <Betty> ahh, that was you?
09:16:03 <Kevin L™> Yep. Got a quickie onthe iPad.
09:16:30 <Kevin L™> Daisy window.
09:17:03 <Jimbo Manganese> Telll the osprey the fish are in the lake
09:18:02 <Kevin L™> I don't know how they see them from up there.
09:20:19 <Eric> All the averages says Daisy between 11:34 and 11:38
09:20:32 <Eric> 4 minute window :-)
09:21:16 <Eric> Now we get to see if Daisy is going to be average...
09:22:04 <Kevin L™> Just what is average for Daisy anymore?
09:22:29 <Eric> 2:51 - 2:55 interval
09:23:45 <Betty> that´s a small window, Eric :-)
09:24:11 <Eric> I like small windows and I can not lie
09:24:39 <Betty> lol!
09:26:11 <Eric> However, I am going to predict lion 13:30 ± 90
09:26:43 <Kevin L™> Did you factor in the OF window?
09:30:34 <Dave from B> I'll take 1128-1148 for Daisy
09:31:01 <Dave from B> Look...someone who has a smaller prediction window than me
09:31:24 <Dave from B> Interesting news from Fountain area re new geyser
09:31:41 <Betty> your window started in the past, Dave
09:32:29 <Dave from B> Well, I look at the data not what time it is!:D
09:32:34 <Kevin L™> Dave is living in the past.
09:32:37 <Casey> He's so confident he doesn't need those extra few minutes
09:34:36 <Betty> hi Casey
09:34:47 <Casey> Hi Betty
09:35:01 <Dave from B> It's going to erupt after Eric's window anyway:)
09:35:24 <Betty> I predict Daisy at 0843.
09:35:45 <Betty> yay....100 points for me :-D :-D
09:35:46 <Dave from B> tomorrow?
09:37:48 <Casey> Betty is better at predicting the past, Dave. Sorry.
09:38:11 <Dave from B> So, now she is our historian, too?
09:38:12 <Betty> :-)
09:40:17 <Betty> I also can do in advance: Castle minor at 1225...my time
09:41:16 <Dave from B> Sorry; that is an invalid prediction...incorrect time zone usage
09:41:31 <Betty> I´m a Magician :-)
09:41:45 <Betty> hahaha
09:42:00 <Dave from B> Hit the button Betty
09:46:08 <Eric> Nice, Daisy is not being average :-)
09:47:59 <Dave from B> Last 20 ints for OF give it a 87 average...no shorts in last 20
09:49:37 <Eric> We failed together Dave :-D
09:51:34 <Kevin L™> OF is trying to sneak out the back window.
09:51:53 <Eric> long daisy and OF
09:55:12 <Kevin L™> Of out of window
09:55:15 <Dave from B> You sure wind direction didn't blow it off camera?:D
09:57:02 <Dave from B> Eric, sorry my prediction is closer!:D
09:57:56 <Kevin L™> You need to swap the location of sorry and my.
09:59:19 <Eric> Mine was purely based on mathematics
09:59:23 <Eric> blame math!
10:00:39 <Dave from B> :D:D
10:01:00 <Dave from B> Even my weighting of last interval blew up in smoke
10:01:36 <Kevin L™> Daisy 1200
10:06:04 <Betty> bbl
10:07:34 <Eric> We are in a Lion ini window now
10:08:15 <Dave from B> We're going to just keep tossing out our predictions without charging, Eric?
10:08:15 <Kevin L™> Math or Dave calculation?
10:08:54 <Dave from B> Yes, it is a good time to walk to Lion....might want to bring a book
10:09:30 <Eric> I do have a 3 hour window :-)
10:10:11 <Eric> Part Math, part speculation.
10:10:36 <Eric> Daisy is much easy to give a straight up average winow.
10:10:41 <Eric> window
10:12:00 <Dave from B> My turn for a smaller window...Lion 1211-1341
10:12:15 <Dave from B> In fact, you might want to start running
10:12:49 <Eric> Nice Dave...that is a tiny window for a Lion ini
10:13:59 <Dave from B> It's seems most short series Lions have returned in less than 10 hours...we shall see
10:14:19 <Kevin L™> Aurum prediction?
10:14:58 <Dave from B> Maybe we should get 1 right first before we predict the toughest of all?
10:16:18 <Eric> I predict it will erupt some time this week Kevin
10:17:03 <Eric> Is there any consolidated information on geyser predictions?
10:17:08 <Dave from B> Kevin, to be able to predict Aurum the best, could you please email me your schedule for the week?
10:17:17 <Eric> haha
10:17:47 <Eric> I would really like a wiki page with all known algorithms for geyser predictions.
10:17:50 <Dave from B> Eric, what do you mean consolidated info? Like history of predictions
10:18:45 <Eric> A single place that explains a majority of ways/calculations that people have used to predict the different geysers in the park.
10:19:15 <Dave from B> Eric, I don't believe so but that would be fun
10:19:35 <Eric> Like what formula or information is being used by GT and NPS to do the predictions we see here?
10:20:24 <Dave from B> I wonder if NPS keeps a historical record of their prediction parameters
10:21:04 <Kevin L™> You would be better offf know how much Diet Dew I have been drinking Dave.
10:21:29 <Eric> We will factor that in Kevin :-)
10:21:46 <Eric> If you mix that with wild turkey, you then have a good drink :-P
10:21:55 <Eric> Called a Turkey Dew
10:22:21 <Kevin L™> I suppose that beats doggie dew.
10:22:54 <Eric> hmmm, never compared the two...but would guess you are correct.
10:23:57 <Kevin L™> I need to do some root beer now that things are heating up.
10:24:01 <Dave from B> :D
10:24:34 <Dave from B> Definitely something wrong with everyone in here today!:D
10:26:18 <Eric> mmm, I bought a bag of fresh lemons and limes from costco last week. Been making freshly squeezed lemon/lime aid with homemade soda water. yummmmm
10:26:42 <Eric> I keg up the water and infuse with Co2
10:27:09 <Kevin L™> That does sound good Eric
10:28:57 <Kevin L™> Who has 1228
10:28:59 <Casey> Lion
10:28:59 <Dave from B> Lion 1228
10:31:13 <Eric> Nice dave....in your tiny window!
10:31:49 <Eric> Both of our windows had it Kevin...but Dave's window was half the size of mine.
10:36:43 <Dave from B> I'm not going to accept any congrats.....been wrong a lot more than right these days.
10:37:43 <Dave from B> Eric, should we try for 2 in a row? What's next?
10:38:12 <Casey> Next ini?
10:41:40 <Eric> haha
10:42:08 <Dave from B> Casey, need more data
10:42:21 <Eric> I wonder if duration of lion ini has any influence on number of eruptions?
10:49:32 <Dave from B> Eric, I would doubt it but only speculation on my part
10:50:13 <ynpvisitor603> I haven't seen any prediction algorithms for Lion ini before, anyone else?
10:50:36 <Eric> For 5/22 the OF pool is filling quite early
10:51:49 <Dave from B> No, but Demetri would be the one to talk to. He was first who showed me a graph that # of eruptions in series influenced interval between series end and begin
10:52:48 <Eric> Cool...I have taken note for a long time that series length definitely affects ini intervals
10:53:18 <Eric> Math says aurum 20:21 plus/minus 2 hours :-)
10:53:38 <ynpvisitor36> .
10:54:51 <Eric> hmmm, scratch that on Aurum...looking at the data, that looks horribly misleading
10:55:34 <Eric> OF
11:02:20 <ynpvisitor603> Static cam picture looks like fun
11:02:43 <Dave from B> I don't even know how you even being to predict Aurum in summer
11:02:49 <ynpvisitor603> Hoards of people crushing the Geyser Grill in 10...9...
11:03:06 <Dave from B> wow...I'll be anxiuos to see May YNP numbers
11:03:33 <ynpvisitor603> = log2(4) + log2(4 – 2)3
11:03:53 <Dave from B> haha
11:26:09 <Betty> back
11:26:28 <Kevin L™> Front
11:26:37 <Betty> right
11:26:39 <Dave from B> Time to relieve in the market...look for Grand at beginning of the window
11:26:48 <Dave from B> left
11:27:07 <Kevin L™> Thanks Dave
11:41:51 <Casey> Lion
11:42:23 <ynpvisitor54> Lion
11:54:55 <Kevin L™> Jim reported bear tracks by Grand this morning.
12:16:51 <ynpvisitor13> there has been a Grizzly sow with 2 cubs in the UGB the past week
12:19:07 <ynpvisitor603> Reading about this new vent on Clepsydra has been really interesting
12:20:48 <ynpvisitor603> Sorry, possible new vent
12:21:06 <ynpvisitor13> it is quite a bit to the right of Clepsydra, not part of it
12:22:49 <ynpvisitor603> Reading about this possible new vent, near Clepsydra has been really interesting
12:23:02 <ynpvisitor603> That appears to be quite a bit to the right ;)
12:24:22 <ynpvisitor13> it did not last long as a steam vent, now it looks like Twig yet with very murky water.
12:26:55 <ynpvisitor13> it cycles on and off with Clepsydra
12:28:08 <Dave from B> Discussion about Fountain "stalls" has been intersting
12:29:22 <ynpvisitor13> it was more like Fountain was skipping an eruption when Clepsydra would not stop cycling
12:29:32 <ynpvisitor13> sure wish we had logger access
12:31:30 <Dave from B> It is nice to have Barbara's posts so fast.
12:32:10 <ynpvisitor13> getting them in real time is nice.
12:36:04 <ynpvisitor603> New Google Group has been nice as well
12:36:16 <ynpvisitor603> Seems to be getting a lot more usage than the old list serv
12:36:50 <Dave from B> I hope it keeps up
12:39:16 <ynpvisitor13> someone order up some nice weather for the basin please
12:39:44 <ynpvisitor13> this could be bad for the cam...
12:39:54 <Kevin L™> How about a change of wind direction
12:40:08 <Kevin L™> :P
12:40:27 <ynpvisitor13> too funny that tourists do not even think about wind
12:40:27 <Jimbo Manganese> AGAIN??
12:40:32 <Kevin L™> I could see that coming.
12:40:41 <ynpvisitor13> yes, me too
12:42:50 <ynpvisitor13> big crowd for a Monday...I guess the season is in full swing
12:43:22 <Dave from B> 13, any guesses what YTD visitation will be ag=fter May?
12:43:29 <ynpvisitor603> Well if you wanted to get the most vacation time
12:43:38 <ynpvisitor603> Memorial day is next Monday
12:43:48 <ynpvisitor603> So you take this whole week off
12:45:12 <Dave from B> My gut tells me no Grand this Turban
12:47:40 <Eric> Hopefully not the same gut that told you the daisy times :-P
12:48:01 <Dave from B> Nope, my gut is full now!:D
12:49:22 <Eric> Lion is tryin
12:49:34 <Eric> had a nice 4ft squirt there
12:53:07 <Dave from B> We need a few more Lions so initial moves to morning
12:53:13 <ynpvisitor13> I guess visitation is up for May
12:53:33 <ynpvisitor13> it was up for April if you do it by the day instead of looking at the entire month.
12:54:00 <Dave from B> I read that. I'm not sure we can stand another 5-10% increase this year
12:54:06 <ynpvisitor13> meaning last year the interior opened the 15th, so 16 days, this year it was the 21st , only 10 days
12:54:29 <Dave from B> Can you reveal your source for May numbers?
13:01:27 <Kent> I was hoping that visitation was down, thae people were going home and telling friends and neighbors that Yellowstone had become a giant summer parking lot.
13:02:46 <Dave from B> Kent, you didn't tell enough people!
13:03:20 <ynpvisitor...> We need help from Ken Burns and National Geo
13:03:29 <Dave from B> Anyone take out a mortgage last week to buy some Copper River Salmon. If we bought any, we would have been $29.99/lb
13:04:21 <Dave from B> My gut says no Grand on next Turban either
13:05:34 <Dave from B> Lion 1505
13:05:46 <Eric> maybe minor
13:05:59 <Eric> guess not
13:06:12 <Eric> wimpy major :-P
13:06:31 <Dave from B> That maight be the end of this series
13:06:34 <Eric> ugg, that was some place in between
13:07:19 <Eric> try 2
13:07:39 <Eric> Some viagra joke would be appropriate here....
13:07:44 <Dave from B> Lion 1507
13:08:04 <ynpvisitor45> for an eruption lasting longer than 4 hours, seek medical attention
13:08:16 <Kevin L™> 2 burst!
13:08:24 <Eric> Thanks 45...I didn't have the guts to make it :-D
13:09:09 <Eric> Lion outi?
13:09:39 <ynpvisitor45> is it raining? the air looks hazy
13:11:12 <Eric> I think the haze is due to camera slime
13:12:18 <Dave from B> Daisy
13:12:40 <ynpvisitor45> oh yuck
13:14:55 <ynpvisitor13> it is raining on and off. And I am only guessing that May visitation will be up by observation. FPP parking lot overflowing already, busses everywhere, lines at gate that no one was expecting
13:15:20 <ynpvisitor13> Graham posted on FB that copper river salmon was $40/lb at Pike Place market
13:15:56 <Dave from B> Well, lower costs living in Billings
13:16:45 <ynpvisitor...> Dave is Chilean Sea Bass commonly in the trade?
13:16:47 <ynpvisitor45> at 29.99, you can't afford not to buy it then!
13:16:50 <Dave from B> Supt Wenk has big decisions ahead of him re visitation
13:16:55 <ynpvisitor13> i thought that was your cost Dave, so retail would have been more
13:17:20 <Dave from B> ..., we sell frozen Chilean Sea Bass but becuase of price it is not a big seller
13:18:06 <ynpvisitor...> It is rarely at my fish restaurant so I was wondering. Thanks.
13:18:13 <Dave from B> I could have bought whole CR Sockeye for 16.50 delivered. 70% yield puts my cost at 23.57.
13:18:22 <Dave from B> wrong again
13:18:35 <Jimbo Manganese> Big Grand
13:18:55 <ynpvisitor13> another Fountain under 4 hours
13:19:14 <Dave from B> Kent, our market price for Chilean Sea Bass is just under $30/lb
13:19:43 <Dave from B> 13, tougher to get a read on Fountain this year than last
13:19:59 <Dave from B> You'll get more reading done at the overlook this year!
13:21:54 <Eric> Wish we could see more water
13:22:01 <Eric> Looks like a really nice grand
13:22:33 <Eric> wonder if you can even see grand from the benches :-P
13:27:01 <Eric> nice timing for big boom
13:27:24 <ynpvisitor...> !
13:27:31 <Dave from B> June trip now 80% full but I'll be switching room types almost every night unless I get lucky
13:27:33 <Dave from B> wow
13:27:38 <Jimbo Manganese> massive
13:27:45 <Eric> smell a 3rd
13:28:10 <Dave from B> haha Eric
13:28:30 <Eric> gogogo...come on
13:28:58 <Dave from B> not looking good
13:29:01 <ynpvisitor13> what do you mean 80% full?
13:29:18 <Dave from B> I found my 4 room of 5 nights
13:29:19 <ynpvisitor13> you are trying convince people to come? You have to change rooms every night you are there?
13:29:23 <Eric> Well, at least we got a nice second
13:29:24 <Dave from B> Still missing 1 night
13:29:37 <ynpvisitor13> that is a lot of moving around
13:29:53 <ynpvisitor13> Grand is done
13:29:53 <Dave from B> I had to adjust my dates to fit aoround soccer....Eric has been helping me find rooms
13:30:01 <Eric> Nah, no need for luck...the whole range will open up for you dave
13:30:31 <Dave from B> Even my family has a hard time fitting 4 in a room with 1 bed
13:30:36 <Eric> I can't believe how many opening I have seen for this entire memorial day weekend open up in the last 7 days
13:31:01 <Dave from B> Hopefully I won't have to change my 2018 dates
13:33:22 <Dave from B> Casey, you ready for that Lion initial prediction?
13:38:49 <Betty> LC
13:48:11 <Dave from B> Time to get out of here. Have a great evening everyone!
13:49:44 <Betty> you too, Dave
13:49:56 <Kevin L™> Night Dave.
13:51:56 <Eric> night dave
13:52:28 <Betty> I´m out too. Night all
13:53:39 <Kevin L™> ?Bye
13:53:57 <ynpvisitor...> Night Betty
13:54:13 <ynpvisitor...> & Dave :)
14:14:39 <Kevin L™> :P
14:14:44 <Kevin L™> More slime
14:26:09 <ynpvisitor603> Can we see the menu in the cafe please
14:33:48 <ynpvisitor603> .
14:33:54 <ynpvisitor34> aurum
14:33:54 <Kevin L™> Finally!
15:47:55 <ynpvisitor34> bhi
15:47:56 <ynpvisitor34> .
15:47:56 <ynpvisitor34> .
15:47:56 <ynpvisitor34> .
15:47:57 <ynpvisitor34> .
15:49:46 <Kevin L™> Nice!
15:49:59 <Kevin L™> TY for the txt
15:51:19 <747> Thanks for the text
15:55:32 <Eric> OF
15:56:48 <Eric> BH
15:57:06 <Eric> Daisy is probably going too :-P
16:10:02 <Kevin L™> Daisy has been on the 3h plus mode today.
18:43:31 <Kevin L™> Yea! Daisy
18:47:46 <Kevin L™> All right kc, I understand the hats, but what was the fish all about?
18:49:30 <kcmule> no idea, guess it's their octopus
18:52:25 <Kevin L™> That was a big fish too!