Showing logs for date: 2017-08-09
22:25:09 <ynpvisitor108> Very dark, cam must be in day mode
22:26:38 <ynpvisitor93> People complained. They wanted to go back to the old camera settings.
23:36:36 <ynpvisitor84> wow, moon is basically full and this is what can be seen on cam at night?
23:38:34 <ynpvisitor84> they use to have a setting that made it look like daytime, even the sky was blue
23:39:31 <ynpvisitor84> guess I should be happy that at least there is a cam
23:39:36 <ynpvisitor108> Terrible view, I do not understand why they would leave it in this mode
23:43:20 <ynpvisitor108> I guess people did not understand how the auto day/night mode works to their advantage
04:29:08 <Dave from B> Good morning everyone....report from Jim S...no F&M yet
04:33:37 <Dave from B> 0025 would have been in Riverside window
04:34:40 <ynpvisitor456> 0025 Spurious?
04:39:32 <joe thermop> We probably never know, with the camera in day mode at night we will not see much.
04:40:36 <ynpvisitor95> No f&m per Jim's radio call
04:55:01 <joe thermop> Interesting, you can see better on the overnight captures than you can see on the actual stream overnight
05:09:38 <ynpvisitor97> What was the last old faithful?
05:18:04 <joe thermop> Last OF on the overnight stream was 0445 the overnight ends approx an hour later
05:30:51 <ynpvisitor999> did some data analyzing for the 0239 Steamboat 100-foot minor
05:32:26 <ynpvisitor999> I concluded that it likely has not taken place, as the temperature is in a drop @ 0239
05:35:22 <ynpvisitor999> and only rises with 0.1C @0249
05:40:28 <ynpvisitor999> morning everyone, by the way
05:40:50 <Dave from B> Hi, DGInc
05:40:57 <Dave from B> Thanks for the Steamboat report
05:42:17 <ynpvisitor999> no problem
05:55:37 <ynpvisitor999> according to DaveM Riverside was @ 0120
05:55:54 <Dave from B> Thanks
05:56:01 <Dave from B> Artemesia at 0025 then?
05:56:22 <ynpvisitor999> could be
06:03:26 <ynpvisitor999> OF
06:05:02 <Dave from B> Grand was 403wc
06:07:31 <ynpvisitor999> Riverside 0802
06:09:03 <ynpvisitor999> SC ie
06:16:51 <ynpvisitor999> BA
06:19:43 <ynpvisitor999> morning Kevin
06:20:51 <ynpvisitor999> morning Mike and Jimbo
06:20:54 <Jimbo Tin> Now that's funny - someone made a comment about tin yesterday
06:21:57 <Mike J> morning all
06:22:46 <Jimbo Tin> Morning to everyone, especially 3x333
06:23:52 <Dave from B> haha
06:24:33 <Mike J> Or, as it is also known, 3 cubed x 37. (Dang, just used up all of day's math allotment)
06:25:56 <Eric> Morning
06:26:08 <ynpvisitor999> morning Eric
06:52:12 <joe thermop> Is it my eyes, or is the camera slightly out of focus?
06:52:45 <ynpvisitor999> I think the latter one
06:53:23 <joe thermop> Thanks
07:23:57 <ynpvisitor999> we should be getting Turban times soon
07:28:33 <joe thermop> Jim S Turban 0925
07:29:19 <joe thermop> Welcome back Dave
07:29:27 <Dave from B> In OF window...Grand must be due
07:29:39 <Dave from B> Had to do a restart and install some updates
07:34:02 <ynpvisitor10> Too bad you all missed the dancing bear lat night. With those long claws, they sure can tap out a tune.
07:34:18 <ynpvisitor999> !?
07:34:34 <Eric> Is that Dave or Kevin :-P
07:35:06 <Eric> Is that spas making all that steam?
07:35:14 <joe thermop> My screen must have a bear filter:)
07:35:22 <ynpvisitor999> think so Eric
07:35:36 <Eric> 100% humidity
07:35:58 <Eric> at 45 degrees!
07:36:54 <Dave from B> 10, what in the heck are you talking about?
07:37:50 <ynpvisitor10> The dancing bear, Kevin knows all about it.
07:38:02 <ynpvisitor118> I think some numbers have been watching the streaming cam too long
07:38:15 <Kevin L™> It was a black bear with a blond wig.
07:38:19 <Kitt> morning
07:38:26 <ynpvisitor999> morning Kitt
07:38:27 <Kevin L™> Hi Kitt
07:38:31 <Dave from B> People dressed up in strange attire again?
07:38:38 <joe thermop> Hi Kitt
07:38:51 <Kitt> last nights cam was even harder to see than the night before
07:38:54 <ynpvisitor10> And a tutu
07:39:10 <Dave from B> 10, you need to lay off the scotch
07:39:54 <Kevin L™> I hope they do some adjustments today.
07:39:59 <ynpvisitor10> Would you believe it if I posted a note on GT?
07:40:08 <ynpvisitor999> OF
07:40:31 <Kevin L™> Are you in the eclipse path Kitt?
07:40:35 <ynpvisitor25> Disney is leaving Netflix. maybe dancing bear here was a test run on showing on OF webcam?
07:42:27 <ynpvisitor999> OF 0939 long
07:45:05 <ynpvisitor999> morning Jake
07:47:50 <ynpvisitor999> morning Casey
07:48:07 <Kitt> Kevin we plan to drive to shoshoni or a little past for 2m 22 seconds of total
07:48:29 <Kitt> could drive to Casper but didn't want to drive that far
07:49:17 <ynpvisitor999> SC pre-eruptive steaming
07:49:32 <Jake> good morning, DG, all
07:49:45 <ynpvisitor10> Changing to the simple page sure helped the view. People do not look like they are running now.
07:49:54 <Casey> Hi everybody
07:51:56 <Kitt> have a good day, time to get constructive
07:53:42 <Jimbo Plutonium> Movin' on up
07:54:08 <Kevin L™> How explosive.
07:54:09 <ynpvisitor999> not as stable as tin anymore, Jimbo?
07:54:51 <Jimbo Plutonium> Nope, I got heavy
07:54:57 <Jake> Plate ?
07:55:48 <ynpvisitor999> and they so warned you not to eat so much protons, neutrons and electrons...
07:59:47 <ynpvisitor10> It will always surprise me that people spend all that $ to come to the park and just set at the bench and wait to see OF.
08:00:50 <Art> I've heard things like
08:01:03 <Art> "Well now that that's over, Let's go shopping Yall!"
08:01:59 <ynpvisitor999> I don't like these kind of people thinking that if they've seen OF once, they've seen everything in the park
08:02:05 <ynpvisitor10> It is good for the rest of us. More space at Grand
08:02:10 <ynpvisitor999> that too
08:02:48 <ynpvisitor10> I have seen OF more then once. Do not need to see it again.
08:04:36 <Eric> I like OF..it's a very nice geyser :-)
08:04:38 <ynpvisitor10> In all fairness, they could be on a bus tour that leaves in an hour.
08:05:01 <ynpvisitor999> true
08:05:44 <Dave from B> Too bad we can't be 10-20 yards closer to OF. I think show would be a hundred times more impressive
08:06:41 <ynpvisitor10> Castle is heating up
08:07:31 <ynpvisitor10> Dave, that would kind of be like seeing Star Wars on a bigger screen.
08:08:54 <ynpvisitor999> you could make OF more impressive by just putting the camera on the ground facing upwards. Gives you the impression that it's much taller than it actually is
08:09:37 <ynpvisitor10> Well enjoy people watching.
08:09:51 <ynpvisitor999> we will, 10
08:10:10 <ynpvisitor999> Grand
08:10:19 <Kevin L™> Turban
08:10:34 <ynpvisitor999> SC 0909
08:10:36 <Kevin L™> Grand
08:11:02 <Kevin L™> I must be delayed
08:11:10 <ynpvisitor999> 1009*
08:11:18 <ynpvisitor999> I think you are
08:11:45 <Eric> SC blocking Grand view...that is a first :-P
08:12:25 <ynpvisitor999> it is, but I don't really mind it
08:13:37 <ynpvisitor999> I wonder if SC's eruption was taller in the past, seen the impressive size of its cone
08:14:08 <Jake> an interesting concept, Dave, moving the OF boardwalk closer. I give it a <1% chance of happening. Makes me wonder why the boardwalk is where it is...if it followed the old parking area or was made anew
08:14:36 <Jake> how about this view with power lines in the way :D http://geyserbob.org/attachments/Image/camp-ypcc-of_yell02784.jpg
08:15:06 <Kevin L™> The old bw was closer
08:15:41 <joe thermop> One more lightining strike at SC and it might rival OF
08:15:47 <ynpvisitor999> the bw was put further away to accomodate the increase in visitors over the years
08:17:14 <joe thermop> bbl
08:17:29 <ynpvisitor999> see you later, joe
08:17:56 <Jimbo Plutonium> 8 minute mark
08:19:59 <ynpvisitor999> 10 minute mark for SC
08:20:09 <Jimbo Plutonium> and Grand
08:20:19 <Jake> someone find me a picture with the older, closer bw
08:20:28 <Jimbo Plutonium> 1 burst Grand likely
08:21:28 <Jake> here's one with a bw in the same place, but people are closer, including on Split Cone https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/121053876595_/Old-Faithful-Geyser-Yellowstone-National-Park-Wyoming-Eruption.jpg
08:21:33 <Casey> https://www.nps.gov/features/yell/slidefile/history/1946_1999/thermalfeatures/Images/05212.jpg
08:22:24 <ynpvisitor999> T1Q
08:22:49 <Jake> oooh, nice find Casey
08:24:27 <ynpvisitor999> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/The_Yellowstone_National_Park_-_a_manual_for_tourists_-_being_a_description_of_the_Mammoth_Hot_Springs%2C_the_geyser_basins%2C_the_cataracts%2C_the_ca%C3%B1ons_and_other_features_of_the_land_of_wonders_also_an_%2814755233611%29.jpg drawing from 1883, with either people on Castle or on OF
08:26:03 <Dave from B> nice pic, Jake
08:27:01 <Dave from B> Casey, love that photo
08:27:12 <Dave from B> Nothing like sitting on a round log
08:30:54 <Jake> I can see why people who experienced that seating think OF is smaller now
08:32:47 <Dave from B> Only way I would be for a closer bw, is if it had a rail to keep crazies away from the cone. I feel a closer bw would be more tempting for many visitors
08:33:51 <Jake> to deal with the crowd size, there'd have to be quotas or different seating tiers via paying more or lottery
08:34:36 <Dave from B> Might as well sell reserved seats
08:34:39 <Casey> How about this one? https://www.nps.gov/features/yell/slidefile/history/1919_1945/visitoractivities/Images/16350.jpg
08:35:42 <Eric> You can see the old viewing positions in the satelite view: https://goo.gl/eSjkGU
08:37:57 <Eric> Much better view: http://wfiwc.org/sites/default/files/images/photos/ynp-fig1a-old-faithful-1923-evenden.jpg
08:38:06 <Dave from B> Thanks, Eric...I wonder if viewing was moved to have a rounded look to bw?
08:38:32 <Casey> https://www.nps.gov/features/yell/slidefile/history/1946_1999/thermalfeatures/Images/11017.jpg
08:38:55 <Casey> You win, Eric
08:39:10 <Dave from B> Wonder how many people were injured by geysers in early days of the park
08:39:52 <Casey> Here's a good view with a super-close boardwalk. https://www.nps.gov/features/yell/slidefile/history/1946_1999/thermalfeatures/Images/05233.jpg
08:40:56 <Eric> Anyone know what this building was? https://goo.gl/K2v8rY
08:41:56 <Casey> Daisy ie
08:42:36 <Dave from B> 1st ranger station at OF?
08:42:41 <Jake> Casey, I think "super-close boardwalk" is the same as today's
08:43:12 <Jake> that building is the old ranger station
08:43:41 <Dave from B> Jake, when were you first in that ranger station?:D
08:43:48 <Eric> No...the pic casey had has the log benches.
08:44:01 <Eric> It's the old BW
08:44:04 <Casey> That picture is from 1966. I can tell you for sure it is not the same as today.
08:44:24 <Casey> The perspective makes it difficult to judge distance
08:45:10 <Jake> it's the old boardwalk, but I think it's in the same position as today's
08:45:25 <Jake> with the right lens, you could get the same photo today
08:45:46 <Jake> or maybe not as I look at it again
08:47:15 <Jake> if they moved the bw back from that position, I wonder how they cleared all the obsidian gravel
08:48:25 <Jake> when they re-did the bw at Beehive, it got closer to Beehive. Not sure what year that was, but some older gazers told me
08:49:18 <Eric> Maybe from about here: https://goo.gl/CKpWbj
08:51:37 <Dave from B> Is the obsidian gravel actually natural in that position or was it trucked in?
08:52:16 <ynpvisitor999> I think it has been trucked in
08:52:26 <Jake> I've always assumed trucked in
08:52:52 <Jake> Artemisia cloud down basin
08:53:08 <ynpvisitor999> NPS is a bit early with it's Castle prediction
08:53:52 <Jake> the rangers do it all by hand so they make mistakes sometimes
08:54:11 <ynpvisitor999> I see
08:55:09 <Jake> I've tried to tell a crowd of 80 people waiting at Riverside that the NPS prediction was incorrect and the eruption was still over an hour away. Some listened, but it's hard to take some dude on a bike seriously. Oh well
08:55:24 <Casey> My first trip to the park was in 2001, and I believe at that point the boardwalk still had the straight line like you can see the remnants of on google maps (like Eric linked)
08:57:34 <Dave from B> Jake, I think gazers should wear referee uniforms. Maybe then people would listen to us
08:58:06 <ynpvisitor59> Or shoot at them :)
08:58:39 <Jake> I would prefer to be anonymous 95% of the time
09:00:07 <Dave from B> I actually enjoy speaking with visitors most of the time. My wife and Becca love to "corral" visitors at Grand and BH....it is a great time to make a big impression on a tourist
09:00:42 <Jake> I used to have an olive green button down shirt with a collar that was some lightweight, low sweat hiking material. Some people thought I was a ranger
09:03:35 <Kevin L™> That building in the picture may have been part of the swimming pool at OF. It was in that general area. The road used to go from Castle, in front of the Inn, and between the Inn and Lodge. The current bw is about where the road was and the gravel is probably the sub base of the road.
09:04:37 <ynpvisitor999> speaking of that swimming pool, did it use water from Solitary?
09:04:39 <Jake> I do like to corral people and give them information. I will stop them at Beehive, Oblong, Depression, sometimes Grand. If people are milling around or showing interest and not just walking by, I'll offer info at Artemisia, Grotto, Lion, Depression, Fountain.
09:04:59 <Kevin L™> Yes they di DG
09:09:39 <Kevin L™> You can download the USGS map with the old road here: https://store.usgs.gov/product/331236
09:09:44 <Casey> Picture of swimming pool from Beehive. https://www.nps.gov/features/yell/slidefile/history/1919_1945/structures/Images/03028.jpg
09:12:56 <ynpvisitor59> Love those old 15" maps. Lots of fun stuff shows.
09:20:03 <Kevin L™> Shows the bridge over the Firehole by BH too.
09:21:36 <ynpvisitor999> OF 1121(:01)
09:22:02 <ynpvisitor999> tall one, reaching top of the frame
09:23:18 <Dave from B> Ok...I'm on 30 second delay. How do I change that?
09:23:59 <ynpvisitor999> I think you can solve it by going to the settings panel and then click the reload icon
09:24:32 <Kevin L™> Does ti say RTMP - Live?
09:24:53 <Dave from B> no...it says HLS 30 second delay
09:26:39 <Kevin L™> I think that means it is not connecting with Flash. Eric may be able to help you on that.
09:27:51 <Dave from B> Thanks Kevin
09:33:43 <Jake> for all you keyboard warriors: on the GT homepage, L and R arrow keys and +/- keys can manipulate the logbook view
09:34:45 <ynpvisitor999> *reloading page and testing it immediatly*
09:37:16 <ynpvisitor999> L/R arrow keys work fine, but I cannot see any difference in the logbook when pressing the - key or the combination shift+=
09:37:42 <ynpvisitor999> (shift+= is the equivalence of the + key)
09:38:35 <Jake> it only works for me with the dedicated + - keys on the 10 key pad
09:39:00 <ynpvisitor999> I see
09:39:37 <ynpvisitor999> I don't have a dedicated 10 keypad, maybe Fn will work
09:40:00 <ynpvisitor999> Fn does work
09:41:33 <ynpvisitor999> Fn+/ (+) and Fn+; (-) are the combinations that add or remove a day for me
09:42:05 <Jake> that makes sense, the Fn combinations emulate the key pad
09:43:29 <ynpvisitor999> maybe you could add that to the info card
09:45:01 <ynpvisitor999> morning Art
10:05:20 <ynpvisitor999> Castle 1156
10:09:15 <ynpvisitor999> 1156 minor
10:09:40 <Jake> booo
10:10:12 <ynpvisitor999> looks like we're getting another series of minors
10:16:55 <Eric> 1968 aerial of BW http://geyserbob.org/attachments/Image/hot-of-aerial1968_ynp03286.jpg
10:18:00 <Eric> Best one I could find. Also, Kevin...that building I linked a satellite view too is too far over to be the swimming pool.
10:18:15 <ynpvisitor999> very pretty area from above, if you ask me
10:20:42 <Kevin L™> I was thinkinking more a support building like a pumping station
10:21:42 <Eric> Another great 1968 shot from a different view: https://www.nps.gov/features/yell/slidefile/history/1946_1999/thermalfeatures/Images/08005.jpg
10:21:46 <Eric> Ahh, that could be
10:23:00 <Eric> Great view of cars parked at castle and further up the old BW around OF
10:30:58 <ynpvisitor999> SC ie static
10:41:04 <Betty> hi all
10:41:12 <Kevin L™> Hi
10:41:27 <Casey> Hi Betty
10:41:31 <ynpvisitor999> evening Betty
10:42:15 <Betty> hi Kevin L™, Casey and DGInc
10:56:02 <ynpvisitor999> OF
10:56:05 <Betty> OF
11:00:41 <ynpvisitor999> long
11:02:35 <ynpvisitor999> Daisy in GT's and NPS' window
11:06:12 <Eric> They need to update the default view
11:06:31 <Eric> Hi Betty
11:06:44 <Betty> hi Eric
11:18:48 <Jake> Daisy happened
11:22:55 <ynpvisitor28> Jake did you make contact with the entrant with the funny entries yesterday?
11:31:49 <ynpvisitor115> that is an odd Great Fountain prediction. The one on their app is correct
11:37:30 <Dave from B (9)> In case no one has seen it...YNP visitation down 3.4% in July...3rh highest July on record behind 2016 and 2015
11:38:06 <ynpvisitor115> thanks Dave. I kept checking yet all they had for July was a bunch of zeros yesterday
11:38:42 <Dave from B (9)> Saw it on FB...has to be true
11:40:07 <ynpvisitor115> I'll check the stat page later to see the whole breakdown
11:43:22 <Jake> 28, I sent an email to the person. I haven't gotten a response. the email didn't bounce.
11:50:28 <ynpvisitor999> regarding that person's false entries, to me it looks like the 0239 Steamboat 100-foot minor has likely not taken place at that time according to logger data
11:51:06 <Eric> 115...my YNP app shows a 14:33 GF prediction, just like as shown here
11:52:00 <Eric> But I totally agree, it is incorrect and the GT prediction is the correct one.
11:52:06 <ynpvisitor115> Thanks Eric, that is a glitch. It showed 9:30 PM earlier
11:52:16 <ynpvisitor115> not sure what happened there.
11:52:24 <ynpvisitor999> the temperature was dropping at that time after a rise between 0155 and 0207 from 22.5C to 23.4C
11:52:36 <Eric> I am guessing someone slipped up with the OF prediction, since they are the same.
11:53:25 <ynpvisitor999> BTW, I can't edit my comment on the 0239 Steamboat note. Just realised I can't math
11:53:43 <ynpvisitor999> and the comment contains a calculation mistake
11:53:57 <ynpvisitor115> That must be it Eric.
11:57:39 <ynpvisitor115> tragic 999
11:58:04 <Dave from B (9)> keep it up with the mistakes and you'll be as famous as me, 999.
11:58:12 <ynpvisitor999> :)
11:58:21 <ynpvisitor999> at least there is some support
11:58:30 <Betty> haha, hi Dave
11:58:48 <Dave from B (9)> Hi, Betty
11:59:05 <Betty> you bought one of Dave´s calculators, DG?
11:59:26 <Dave from B (9)> Yep....my business is branching out again:)
11:59:44 <ynpvisitor115> Dave, did you see the Yellowstone NPS news release to NOT use the south entrance on the 21st?
12:00:04 <ynpvisitor999> no, I think my parents bought one of Dave's brains from his brain factory
12:00:11 <Dave from B (9)> 115, yes I did....pushing up leave time to 0300 instead of 0400
12:00:28 <ynpvisitor115> I hope that helps.
12:00:57 <Dave from B (9)> I more worried about afterwards and getting Becca to Pocatello by 5pm.
12:00:58 <Kevin L™> DG broke Steamboat!
12:01:00 <ynpvisitor115> People have reported not being able to see the Tetons the past few days. I hope the situation changes by then.
12:01:22 <Jake> DG, the Steamboat logger isn't strong enough evidence that it didn't happen. I don't know who has correlated Steamboat activity (minors) with how they appear on the logger
12:01:30 <ynpvisitor115> I would not plan on that Dave, Pocatello is a long ways from GTNP
12:02:00 <ynpvisitor115> you won't be off the water until well after noon.
12:02:12 <ynpvisitor115> what happens at 5 in Pocatello?
12:02:15 <Kevin L™> You may want to try the Rexburg route Dave. Pocatello is not far south.
12:02:33 <Dave from B (9)> Becca hops on a plane to Portland at 630
12:02:33 <ynpvisitor115> He has plans to be on a raft Kevin
12:02:43 <ynpvisitor115> yeah, I would cancel that
12:02:48 <Eric> I had not seen this chart before...copied it to google sheets for revamp: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15_jFMliH_L24diGmk21L35c5uwAlppaIfo_ZXuYhL0w/edit#gid=0
12:02:48 <ynpvisitor115> I hope you have trip insurance
12:03:00 <Eric> Shows Geyser typical behavior as a chart
12:03:03 <ynpvisitor999> good point Jake
12:03:18 <Dave from B (9)> Nonrefundable. If she misses the plane, we drive straight thru to Portland on eclipse night.
12:03:18 <ynpvisitor115> they expect insane gridlock in GTNP
12:03:35 <ynpvisitor115> well, good you are planning
12:03:43 <Kevin L™> No freeways in that area either.
12:04:08 <Betty> thanks, 115. I did not read about the south entrance yet.
12:04:12 <ynpvisitor115> Even Rexburg to Pocatello by 5 would be a gamble
12:04:44 <ynpvisitor115> I thought of you too Betty. I hope you make it to where you want to be
12:04:48 <Kevin L™> True
12:05:07 <Betty> I also planned to go to GT
12:05:27 <Kevin L™> He could go down toward Idaho Falls and get a jump.
12:05:57 <ynpvisitor115> he has a raft trip planned Kevin
12:06:13 <ynpvisitor115> and the traffic may not move at all on Highway 20 on the 21st
12:06:22 <Dave from B (9)> Could cancel the raft trip but what fun is that?
12:06:51 <Kevin L™> Depends on if you want Becca on the plane.
12:07:12 <ynpvisitor115> raft trip is probably more than the plane fare
12:07:28 <Betty> I would do the raft trip and cancel Beccas flight and go directly to Portland
12:07:29 <ynpvisitor115> I am just hoping you get to the raft to take the trip
12:07:50 <ynpvisitor115> you have to get to Moose, right?
12:08:31 <Dave from B (9)> Yes...moose
12:08:34 <ynpvisitor115> fires in Glacier now too. MT has so much fire, it is kooky
12:09:15 <Kevin L™> My Uncle was just up there and said they would not allow any off road driving with his Jeep at all.
12:09:27 <Dave from B (9)> skies have actually been fine in Billings for last 10 days
12:09:58 <ynpvisitor115> yeah, you are east of the smoke flow right now
12:09:58 <Dave from B (9)> You can still have campfires in Beartooths
12:12:01 <ynpvisitor999> Jake, is it possible for the GT sandbox to have some known Steamboat minors submitted to it so we have timestamps for Steamboat logger analyzing there?
12:12:03 <Kevin L™> I don't plan on trying to get out of Rexburg until early Tuesday morning. I expect lots of traffic even then. Hopefully the $1000 price tag on a room will deter people from staying the night.
12:12:49 <ynpvisitor115> All the rooms are sold Kevin. I feel for folks that bought them for regular price and were cancelled, not fair.
12:16:23 <Dave from B (9)> Still 24 motels in Boise that have rooms that night
12:16:36 <Dave from B (9)> From $90 to $863
12:16:53 <ynpvisitor115> yes, Boise, maybe you could make it that far by nightfall
12:17:14 <Dave from B (9)> That is the orignal plan...our further
12:17:22 <Dave from B (9)> or*
12:18:05 <Kevin L™> MyDaughter said they had a friend who thought he could just call and reserve a room last week in Rexburg.
12:18:09 <Dave from B (9)> I'm okay if I have to sleep in the car with all of Becca's smelly soccer gear and stuff
12:18:31 <Kevin L™> You should rent a small RV.
12:19:14 <ynpvisitor115> Will Becca be playing soccer on the trip?
12:19:16 <Dave from B (9)> I'd rather park a small car
12:19:42 <Jake> DG, you can put anything you want in the sandbox. What we really need is a reliable observer's reports of Steamboat minors
12:19:56 <Dave from B (9)> No, but I'm sure her gear is going to Portland. She intends to play many intermural sports
12:20:02 <Jake> Here's Polly's report that matches the following chart from 0905 to 1105: http://geysertimes.org/datalogger/analysis/loggerChart.php?g=163&l=21&t1=1500886800000&t2=1500930000000
12:20:12 <ynpvisitor999> thanks Jake
12:20:39 <Jake> "I got 81% concerted minors the first hour and 83% concerted the second hour. Several South jets and a few North jets observed." sounds like Steamboat was having lots of minor eruptions. the logger doesn't really show much activity
12:20:46 <Dave from B (9)> Also, Becca finally came to her senses and decided she will teach science instead of english.
12:20:59 <ynpvisitor115> Kevin, I heard Rexburg was sold out, yet maybe since they booted the regular customers, now they are not
12:21:17 <ynpvisitor115> Becca has plenty of time to decide what she will teach, right?
12:21:49 <Kevin L™> I tried a year ago and they were all out of my price range. Sold out in about a week even at that.
12:22:05 <Dave from B (9)> She has to decide after first year. She gets in the classroom in the first week of school
12:23:08 <ynpvisitor115> wow, that sounds interesting, that approach. Is it a teacher's college she is attending?
12:24:10 <Dave from B (9)> That is just the way that the University of Portland does it.
12:24:43 <Dave from B (9)> She will get a double major: secondary education and science of some type
12:25:19 <Dave from B (9)> It has been hard for Becca to accept that she wants to teach science because she didn't want to follow in her mom's footsteps.
12:25:50 <Dave from B (9)> She loves chemistry. Had a bad experience with an awful Biology teacher
12:26:05 <ynpvisitor999> SC ie
12:26:19 <Kevin L™> AA business minor is great for admin positions
12:27:01 <ynpvisitor118> Kevin read the article on the snake that washed up at Hilton Head?
12:27:17 <Kevin L™> No
12:27:40 <ynpvisitor118> Eastern Diamondback.
12:27:52 <Kevin L™> :P
12:28:07 <ynpvisitor999> OF
12:28:23 <ynpvisitor118> Sorry to interrupt the interesting discussion of gym cloths.
12:28:23 <ynpvisitor999> 1427
12:29:45 <Jake> on strange VEC prediction times, GeyserTimes loads automatically from the NPS's prediction system. I saw one of the rangers entered a note (http://geysertimes.org/eruption.php?id=933990) that windows had been adjusted. The Grand window did not change as reported by their system so that's why Grand shows +/- 90minutes instead of 60.
12:30:19 <Dave from B (9)> 118, no problem. I rambled on enough
12:30:36 <Jake> I can't recall if the system designed for the VEC allows them to adjust the window size or not.
12:30:41 <Dave from B (9)> I didn't realize thunder & lightning were in the area. I thought it was smoke
12:30:51 <Kevin L™> That was a big snake. Bet it wasn't native.
12:30:57 <ynpvisitor999> distant lightning and thunder maybe
12:31:01 <ynpvisitor115> crazy thunder
12:31:16 <Eric> ugly clouds moving in
12:31:31 <ynpvisitor118> I thought a real gazer would hid in the bathrooms instead of giving up on F&M
12:31:36 <Kevin L™> Looks nasty
12:32:01 <ynpvisitor118> Odd we do not see any flashes if it was bad enough to make them run
12:32:12 <Eric> Real gazers hide :-P
12:32:19 <Jake> who's ready to lose the webcam for another month???
12:32:29 <Eric> shush
12:32:32 <Kevin L™> NO!
12:33:15 <Dave from B (9)> Has anyone seen lightning on cam during this storm?
12:33:17 <ynpvisitor999> not ready
12:33:40 <ynpvisitor999> I only saw raindrops hitting the camera dome, not more than that though
12:34:16 <ynpvisitor999> I think just after OF's 1255 eruption
12:36:00 <Jimbo Plutonium> Uh-oh
12:37:57 <joe thermop> Lightning NEVER strikes the same place twice :):)
12:38:30 <Jake> that's why I'll go stand on Split Cone during my next UGB storm
12:39:01 <joe thermop> :)
12:39:01 <Jimbo Plutonium> time to fire up the real time lightning Web site -- maybe "fire" isn't the right word to use
12:41:01 <Eric> Good call jake. Make bubba hold your beer.
12:42:22 <ynpvisitor115> the smoke is bad enough in Yellowstone with the fires far away, please none closer!
12:43:49 <ynpvisitor118> I am still hoping between the fires, and the possibility of clouds, we escape the eclipse fiasco.
12:44:33 <Jake> Riverside puff?
12:44:44 <ynpvisitor118> Sorry to those that paid thousands of dollars to stay in chicken coups.
12:44:55 <Jake> yes. and a lightning strike!
12:45:18 <Betty> ugh
12:45:35 <Betty> did that hit Riverside?
12:45:47 <joe thermop> close
12:46:03 <Dave from B (9)> probably hit the outhouse
12:46:14 <Jake> it probably hit in MGB or beyond
12:46:16 <ynpvisitor999> didn't see the lightning, busy making graph of OF's 2015 eruptions
12:46:34 <Jake> maybe it will show up on Jimbo's site
12:46:38 <ynpvisitor115> 118, where are you located?
12:46:56 <ynpvisitor118> Oregon
12:47:28 <ynpvisitor115> It will be interesting to see if any weather apps crash because of all the people tracking the weather those days
12:48:37 <ynpvisitor118> One by Grand? One by Oblong? And one in the woods way back.
12:49:00 <ynpvisitor118> https://www.lightningmaps.org/blitzortung/america/index.php?lang=en Zoom in
12:49:22 <Jimbo Plutonium> They aren't showing on blitzortung
12:50:18 <ynpvisitor118> Behind Castle not grand. and maybe Daisy. I zoomed in more.
12:50:42 <Jake> the one I saw hit the Grand Prismatic Overlook
12:50:49 <Jake> timestamp matches up
12:51:14 <ynpvisitor118> The one in the woods is east of Biscuit Basin.
12:51:43 <ynpvisitor118> One by the emploee rooms
12:53:01 <ynpvisitor118> One by Grand Prismatic Spring.
12:57:24 <ynpvisitor118> Seems to be all over.
12:57:29 <ynpvisitor115> they cleared the bw
12:58:01 <ynpvisitor115> you saw a lightning strike that hit the overlook?
12:58:08 <ynpvisitor115> I bet there are people out there
12:58:27 <Betty> headed out, night all
12:58:42 <ynpvisitor999> night Betty
12:59:20 <Jimbo Plutonium> This storm isn't a real active lightning producer http://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=30
12:59:38 <Jimbo Plutonium> And right after I say that - boom
13:00:20 <ynpvisitor999> it just needed some jumper cables :)
13:01:51 <ynpvisitor118> Cam Op needs to deploy the umbrella.
13:12:23 <ynpvisitor999> Turban?
13:15:23 <ynpvisitor5> Got back to cabin before rain and hail started,.
13:16:13 <Dave from B (9)> That sounds familiar
13:16:21 <Dave from B (9)> You ready to get back out there?
13:17:16 <joe thermop> Time to head to Grand
13:19:46 <ynpvisitor108> Watch for F&M cloud, everyone left because of lightning
13:21:46 <ynpvisitor5> Andrew asked me if I was joe thermop, Nor me.
13:22:49 <ynpvisitor118> Well enjoy.
13:23:44 <Dave from B (9)> I figured 5 was Andrew
13:27:59 <Dave from B (9)> Time to go home early today. Have a great evening everyone!
13:58:38 <ynpvisitor999> Grand
13:59:02 <joe thermop> nice
14:03:22 <ynpvisitor999> white X of death
14:03:42 <joe thermop> BAH
14:03:58 <ynpvisitor19> :(
14:04:53 <ynpvisitor999> and back
14:06:05 <Graham> bad time for Grand to erupt
14:06:16 <ynpvisitor999> afternoon Graham
14:06:32 <Graham> hello
14:07:07 <Graham> rain in the basin? havent seen that in a long time
14:09:39 <ynpvisitor19> Daisy ?
14:09:54 <ynpvisitor999> yup
14:09:58 <Casey> Looks like it to me
14:10:01 <Casey> pes
14:10:04 <Casey> yes
14:10:18 <Graham> goimng to be a snoozer evening other than BH
14:10:31 <ynpvisitor999> looks like Grand's done
14:10:49 <Eric> Maybe Giant will like the rain?
14:10:52 <ynpvisitor19> just BH and F&M
14:11:57 <Graham> while its nice to see F&M on the webcam its rather unimpressive
14:12:22 <Graham> still only mid-cycle for F&M :(
14:12:55 <ynpvisitor19> or it could have erupted twice by now
14:13:08 <Casey> Unattended due to weather? Sounds like time for F&M to me.
14:13:18 <joe thermop> OF
14:14:17 <Graham> they are not being watched at night, so plenty of opportunity for going with nobody there
14:15:13 <ynpvisitor999> OF long
14:17:10 <Graham> not very long tho
14:17:46 <Graham> Dome is steamy
14:17:46 <ynpvisitor999> about 3m28s including pre-eruptive spouting
14:17:48 <Casey> Dome?
14:18:28 <ynpvisitor999> could be, 5d20h since last submitted eruption
14:20:15 <ynpvisitor999> only 49F
14:25:37 <Kent> Are we getting a new tree to the left of the left-most Aurum tree?
14:26:21 <Kent> Camera position? Me not paying attention?
14:26:56 <Graham> multiple trees, pick one
14:27:05 <Casey> big anemone
14:27:28 <Kent> I alwasy counted over three and now it looks like 4
15:35:01 <Graham> in the BH window
15:39:30 <ynpvisitor7> It will be shortly after 1930
15:40:02 <Graham> ok, thanks
15:42:42 <Graham> lion
15:42:43 <ynpvisitor29> Lion
16:49:49 <Graham> Daisy
17:01:11 <ynpvisitor103> Lion
17:01:12 <ynpvisitor76> There we go
17:05:59 <Graham> stepping away, bbs
17:06:31 <Kevin L™> Does this mean BH will erupt?
17:17:50 <Graham> did i miss it?
17:18:24 <ynpvisitor103> SC ie
17:28:03 <ynpvisitor103> OF
17:34:46 <ynpvisitor84> big BH splash
17:45:36 <ynpvisitor103> busy night for Geysers!
17:49:48 <ynpvisitor103> nice eve light on Castle
17:57:20 <ynpvisitor103> aurum?
17:57:42 <Graham> dont think so
17:57:58 <ynpvisitor103> was hoping
18:02:48 <Graham> i am quitting, so enjoy BH in 5 min
18:02:53 <Graham> goodnight
18:05:47 <ynpvisitor103> Lion
18:25:54 <Michael> IS it OK if I add the last Lion time to GT?
18:48:21 <Kevin L™> No BH?
18:48:44 <ynpvisitor101> It appears that Beehive has returned to what it was doing in June
18:48:53 <Kevin L™> :p
18:49:03 <ynpvisitor101> longer intervals
18:49:20 <Michael> Maybe it's learning a couple of tricks from F&M.
18:49:46 <Kevin L™> I thought when I left it would go.
18:50:14 <ynpvisitor101> hopefully in the hour
18:51:48 <ynpvisitor101> it did a 21 hour interval just before I got there in June and I waited 4 - 5 hours for a 20 hour interval my first week
18:52:08 <Kitt> sorry didn't realize that I was still a number
18:53:08 <Kevin L™> Don't have enough time up there this year for it to be that way.
18:53:19 <Kitt> I wasn't the 101 that noted the last Lion
18:53:29 <Kevin L™> Does the eclipse go through Worland Kitt?
18:53:39 <Kitt> kind of
18:53:52 <Kitt> we are driving an hour south for the total
18:54:18 <Kitt> if we drove 30 miles south we would get about a minute total
18:54:24 <Kevin L™> Not bad. Ashley says Rexburg is a real circus.
18:54:46 <Kevin L™> She is about a mile north of the center.
18:55:08 <Kitt> We are going to Shoshoni, small town , very flat
18:55:53 <Kevin L™> HK says they will probably do it in Wyoming.
18:57:07 <Kitt> nice splash from bee
18:57:33 <Kevin L™> Needs a big one.
18:58:33 <Kitt> hopefully it waits until Old Faithful is good and done
19:06:47 <Kevin L™> It may be too dark to see it then.
19:13:03 <Kevin L™> Aurum?
19:14:23 <Kitt> was it?
19:14:44 <Kevin L™> I don't know.
19:15:22 <Kevin L™> I assume gazers are out and it isn't posted so I would say no.
19:16:03 <Kevin L™> Do you think we are missing eruptions or is it having 2 to 3 day intervals?
19:16:40 <Kevin L™> Light at BH
19:16:57 <Michael> That's really hard to say. Some gazers leave notes if they se it post-eruptive.
19:17:00 <Michael> OF
19:17:21 <Kitt> nice fluffy
19:20:07 <Michael> Riverside ie, I think
19:20:54 <Kevin L™> Think so
19:25:25 <Kitt> sure hope they find a night cam where geysers are visable
19:25:38 <Kitt> I don't know how Dave figures out so many
19:25:42 <Kitt> night all
19:25:48 <Kitt> enjoy the bee
19:26:14 <Kevin L™> I think it just needs a few setting done. I was hoping it would happen today.
19:26:48 <Michael> Too dark for me. Good night everyone.
19:27:08 <Kevin L™> Night
20:31:13 <ynpvisitor14> Too bad they did not change the cam so we can see at night
21:30:59 <ynpvisitor98> A note on social media may help.
21:34:46 <ynpvisitor85> We can see at night? Maybe they have not read that part of the manual yet.
21:58:42 <ynpvisitor78> Another night of nothing viewable, bah