Showing logs for date: 2017-08-17
04:28:07 <Joe> Is the camera broken again?
04:50:20 <Dave from B> Good morning...30 minute window would cover last 10 Grand eruptions
04:50:24 <Joe> Hi Dave
04:51:15 <Joe> Dave is your stream down?
04:52:04 <Dave from B> Or, it is still dark outside:)
04:55:59 <Dave from B> Might as well blame it on the eclipse crowd
04:56:35 <Joe> You still in Billings?
04:57:24 <Dave from B> Leave tomorrow at 1500
04:58:19 <Dave from B> We had to shorten the beginning of our trip because we will be taking Becca to college and be gone all next week.
05:00:10 <Joe> I would say Wwave to us opn the camera but...?
05:01:42 <Dave from B> Hopefully, it is a short outage
05:06:02 <Joe> The overnight capture is complete, so maybe someone accidentally turned something off when they went to work at the photo shop.
05:09:43 <Dave from B> It's odd that there are no field reports this morning as well
05:14:21 <ynpvisitor1> {Insert End of the World Conspiracy Theory here} -->
05:20:15 <Joe> Actually the overnight capture quit at 0505 about an hour early.
05:38:06 <Joe> Must be a power outage at Old Faithful area, the Mt Washburn cam shows Yellowstone Park is still there.
05:38:37 <Dave from B> Whew...I was worried about that
05:40:50 <Dave from B> ..
05:51:13 <Dave from B> Surely, we can blame this on Kevin somehow
05:53:54 <Joe> He probably bumped his remote cam off switch in his sleep.
06:20:47 <Dave from B> FB YNP post says entrances may close if things get too busy due to eclipse
06:27:44 <Jimbo Dubnium> Element 105!
06:29:44 <ynpvisitor1> close? really? How about just free entry like GTNP so you can drive through
06:31:37 <Joe> Which fb page
06:35:04 <Dave from B> Let me see if I can find it
06:35:47 <Dave from B> 58 years ago today...Hebgen Lage EQ 7.5
06:37:52 <ynpvisitor999> morning everyone
06:38:06 <Joe> HI DGI
06:38:39 <ynpvisitor68> Cam down?
06:39:02 <Dave from B> Yes
06:39:11 <ynpvisitor999> What a lovely webcam stream, isn't it? Really nice background image with a beautiful white X with shadow.
06:40:07 <ynpvisitor999> I think the VEC itself doesn't have internet connection anymore, static is down aswell
06:43:36 <ynpvisitor68> Stream stopped at ~505. Last static image has a 506 timestamp. No in basin GT posts. Sounds like an area wide internet outage to me.
06:44:09 <ynpvisitor999> hopefully it's fixed soon
06:45:51 <ynpvisitor999> at least I can keep myself busy with entering the 1992 OFVC log to GT
06:48:30 <Dave from B> Joe, was able to loacte FB post. Sorry
06:48:41 <ynpvisitor999> morning Jake
06:48:58 <Jake> morning all. not what I wanted to see this morning!
06:49:28 <Dave from B> wasn't*
06:49:56 <Jake> must be a wide outage like 68 said. We're not getting VEC predictions either so it's probably not just cell service but whole internet connection problems at OF
06:50:13 <ynpvisitor10> Hi all. vw here.
06:50:32 <ynpvisitor999> morning vw
06:50:38 <ynpvisitor10> Numerous attempts to get onto cam have failed.
06:51:09 <Eric> Yep, century links whole network seems to be unreachable
06:51:36 <ynpvisitor10> I am going to take this opportunity to get away from computer and get outside for some fresh Ir!
06:51:47 <ynpvisitor10> Oops... air.
06:51:47 <Jake> whole network in YNP?
06:51:48 <Eric> Enjoy :-D
06:51:50 <Dave from B> Enjoy the fresh air vw!
06:51:53 <Eric> and Hi vw
06:51:58 <Jake> breathe deep
06:51:59 <ynpvisitor999> morning Mike
06:52:15 <Eric> Century links router in billings is unreachable
06:52:22 <Mike J> Quick question since we have nothing else to do. Recently, I thought I saw something on this discussion group that the only cell service is Verizon. True?
06:52:36 <Mike J> That is, cell service at Old Faithful
06:53:16 <ynpvisitor10> Will keep checking. No regularily scheduled cam ops available today.
06:53:37 <Joe> Lets see... employee finds power out, calls his boss his boss calls his dept head, dept head calls supt. Supt calls Montana Power, dispatch calls local district office, office sends out serviceman, serviceman goes to nearest substation, locates affected line, starts patrolling line, finds problem, calls out repair crews....many hours:)
06:53:43 <Dave from B> vw, you want me to send you a text if cam starts working?
06:53:44 <Eric> A couple others cell providers service OF specifically, but generally Verizon is way better.
06:53:59 <ynpvisitor10> Mike, i believe only one cell tower, but it is used by all providers.
06:54:28 <ynpvisitor10> Dave, that would be great! Ty.
06:54:35 <ynpvisitor10> Ttfn!
06:54:41 <Mike J> Thanks 10. Time to change service, and I don't want to mess the most important reception I need.
06:54:49 <Dave from B> haha Joe...you're dating yourself with Montana Powere reference
06:54:53 <Mike J> That is, mess with
06:55:17 <Joe> Yes I am old :)
06:55:19 <ynpvisitor1> It is interesting that we have no live reports this a.m. too. If they were planning on some webcam data they will be disaapointed
06:55:33 <ynpvisitor999> on the other hand, I think people will not be all that busy with their phones now and hopefully spend their time walking around and having a good look around the basin
06:55:48 <Jake> Verizon is the carrier that has the best connectivity by far. My understanding is that Verizon owns the OF tower, they have to, by law, offer some bandwidth to other carrriers. During even low traffic times, those other carriers have so many devices trying to connect that nothing gets through
06:56:12 <ynpvisitor81> Update for Eclipse travelers. Reports of bread shortage (Costco ran out) stations running low/out of fuel. Long lines with people filling up before the hoards get here.
06:56:14 <ynpvisitor1> or maybe their reports just aren't uploadng???
06:56:47 <Jake> they can still be entering data on Android apps, but none of it has uploaded yet
06:56:48 <Mike J> Thanks Jake. I'll have to keep that in mind.
06:57:03 <ynpvisitor1> Who needs bread for an eclipse ????
06:57:18 <Eric> I used a pay as you go verizon phone while in the park...30 days worth of service.
06:57:34 <Jake> their GT Apps will be updated with whatever was in GT as of 0500
06:58:52 <ynpvisitor81> Kevin did say cell service would go down. Maybe phones are down also with all the people calling for rooms.
07:00:16 <Eric> Wow...looks like Century Link has had system wide failure this morning!
07:00:27 <Eric> Glad I am not a century link customer!
07:01:00 <ynpvisitor81> My internet at least works, a few states away.
07:01:52 <Eric> You on Century Link 81?
07:02:09 <ynpvisitor81> Dave's seems to be working also. Wasn't Kevin supposed to be driving around today? Maybe he hit a cable box.
07:02:21 <Eric> Dave is on the go
07:02:24 <ynpvisitor81> Yes, I am
07:02:55 <ynpvisitor81> I thought he was home as he is from B
07:03:25 <Dave from B> I texted Kevin an hour ago. No response. He is in Utah somewhere
07:04:00 <Eric> Maybe he has centurly link too :-P
07:04:12 <Eric> Dave are you still at your office?
07:06:25 <Dave from B> Yes...leave tomorrow at 1500
07:06:51 <Dave from B> I have Spectrum at work. Verizon for cell service
07:07:35 <Eric> Ahh, I thought you headed out today too.
07:08:15 <Dave from B> Need to work all week so I can have all next week off
07:11:18 <ynpvisitor81> Well I have a work question then. Can you still get smoked Salmon bellies? We used to be able to buy them like 30 years ago. Just the bottom 1 inch or so from the filet.
07:11:31 <ynpvisitor81> They were so good and cheep.
07:12:50 <Dave from B> 81, we sell frozen belly trim but it is not smoked. I've never seen smoked salmon bellies on any price lists from my vendors
07:15:29 <ynpvisitor1> Dave from B, be sure to stock up on bread!
07:16:24 <Dave from B> My car takes unleaded not bread
07:16:50 <Dave from B> And, you know, "man can't live on bread alone"
07:22:12 <ynpvisitor81> Bigger lines for gas then bread. I just think it is funny that Cosco runningout of something is like the end of the world to people.
07:22:36 <ynpvisitor81> We have many more stores including bread only stores.
07:23:13 <Dave from B> Taylor's boyfriend works at Costco. Their tanks are filled at least twice a day
07:23:57 <ynpvisitor999> on another subject, has anyone ever heard of Noflu Geyser/Spring/Pool/whatever?
07:26:38 <Jake> no, that's in the logbook file? I can't even think what that might be a typo of
07:26:47 <ynpvisitor1> noflu?
07:27:03 <ynpvisitor999> two secs please, looking for the right date
07:27:12 <ynpvisitor1> did it erupt?
07:27:29 <Jake> http://geyserstudy.org/ofvclogs/log1992.txt on Jan 9
07:28:23 <ynpvisitor999> and here is its corresponding entry: http://geysertimes.org/eruption.php?id=938502
07:28:46 <ynpvisitor999> I did search on Google, but no results either
07:30:32 <Jake> have to see the actual logbook page to see if that's really what was written
07:30:41 <Jake> I wouldn't worry about it
07:30:48 <ynpvisitor999> ok
07:34:37 <Dave from B> Might be a q for Rocco
07:34:42 <ynpvisitor1> what else starts with an 'n' - hmmm
07:47:19 <Eric> Are there page scans archived someplace?
07:49:17 <Eric> Wow...century link in billings has about the worst rating I have ever seen of a company
07:49:54 <Dave from B> I'm not aware of anyone I do business with who uses them
07:50:00 <Eric> Almost every review is one star
07:50:17 <ynpvisitor81> People do like to complain.
07:50:26 <Eric> I can believe that Dave...
07:50:36 <Eric> They also love to brag online when they get good service.
07:53:05 <ynpvisitor81> How well would you do if you had almost all your assets in old technology that is dieing? And have to maintain it as if it were still viable?
07:56:52 <Dave from B> 81, how true
07:58:59 <Eric> I would love to own all ath copper line :-D
07:59:26 <ynpvisitor81> And what would you do with it?
07:59:48 <Eric> Sell bandwidth!
07:59:56 <Eric> with good customer support.
08:00:38 <Eric> The expensive part is the copper and the right to have it there...the rest is relatively cheap appliances.
08:01:56 <ynpvisitor81> Not much bandwidth on old cat 3- copper. Plus a bunch of it has failed. That is the problem. Plus you have to keep paying for the right to have the coper in the ground. Every city taxes utilities.
08:02:48 <ynpvisitor999> If I had the all the copper lines and the funds, I'd be upgrading them to cable of fiber. Much more future proof than copper
08:02:49 <ynpvisitor81> etter band width on cable, and just as bad or worse customer service.
08:03:47 <ynpvisitor81> I am very happy with the link. Except when they screw up. But that is normal, not the screw up, the unhappy part.
08:05:36 <ynpvisitor81> Upgrading tele copper to fiber or cable would cost way to much for a $20 phone line. The wire would cost but the big expence would be the applainces on both ends to make it work for phone.
08:07:01 <ynpvisitor81> Untill everyone started dumping coper for cell, I was out of pairs. I have had little to no problems now that I have extra pairs and they do not steal mine to give someone service.
08:07:40 <Eric> You can transmit a LOT more data over copper than their current CO's allow...they are just not upgrading their technology...it's not the copper!
08:08:33 <ynpvisitor999> I'm happy with my 200 Mbps download/12 Mbps upload speed on coax cable
08:08:58 <ynpvisitor81> So why is there a length limit on fast DSL on copper? Not just Century that says it.
08:09:14 <Eric> physics?
08:09:55 <ynpvisitor81> But you said you can send lots of data on copper. More then they are doing now.
08:10:14 <Eric> Yes
08:11:26 <Eric> I can get 100Mbps DSL here on copper.
08:11:44 <Eric> because Century Link upgraded their CO
08:12:16 <ynpvisitor81> If you are next to the switch. If you live to far then no way.
08:13:05 <Eric> Well, I am NOT next to the switch...but I am also not far away.
08:13:14 <Eric> bbs...work call
08:13:34 <ynpvisitor81> I get a slow 12 meg because there is a repeter close to me. Only reason it is there is because of the number of customers and DMV was next to it.
08:28:44 <ynpvisitor81> I would say enjoy the people watching, however cam to watch people with..
08:43:19 <Joe> It almot came back
08:43:47 <ynpvisitor999> it's getting there
08:44:03 <ynpvisitor999> for me it's back, for now
08:44:07 <Jimbo Dubnium> I have streaming
08:44:23 <ynpvisitor999> let's see if we get a flood of eruption entries
08:44:25 <Joe> Its here
08:44:54 <ynpvisitor999> I would hold off sending text for maybe 10-15 (or even 30) minutes
08:47:15 <Joe> Gt updated
08:47:34 <ynpvisitor999> yep
08:48:33 <ynpvisitor999> did post an Event Non-Geyser Related though, just to let them know that the streaming *appears* to be back
08:48:45 <Dave from B> It's almost BH time
08:50:03 <ynpvisitor999> out of focus
08:51:09 <ynpvisitor107> Dirty dome messes with focus on zoom?
08:53:04 <Joe> UGB cam is still black
08:53:46 <ynpvisitor999> It'll hopefully update in the next few minutes/hours
08:57:24 <ynpvisitor52> wish we could zoom to bee
08:58:34 <Dave from B> There will be times periods while Kevin is gone that cam will be without a driver
08:59:19 <ynpvisitor52> Oh well, at least he will be able to see bee up close
09:00:06 <Dave from B> I'm not sure what his eta is for today
09:19:23 <Eric> Woot...back from meeting and cam is up!
09:33:38 <Eric> Nice Pump
09:35:20 <Eric> Not sure if you are still around 81...but what I was going to mention is the reason Centurly Link can do 100Mbps here is because they are actually running fiber to the local closets.
09:35:55 <Eric> Which is fairly cheap, versus running it to each home, then they use the copper to bridge from the house to the local box.
09:52:46 <ynpvisitor81> lot of people at bee area
09:53:56 <ynpvisitor81> maybe some are waiting for Old Faithful
09:54:27 <ynpvisitor999> OF
09:54:31 <ynpvisitor81> Old Faithful
09:55:25 <Eric> Wonder if Betty is out there?
09:55:32 <Eric> Grotto area steam
09:56:32 <ynpvisitor81> She is probably at bee
09:56:36 <ynpvisitor999> OF long
10:20:47 <ynpvisitor81> nice splash
10:26:21 <ynpvisitor999> Daisy
10:26:21 <ynpvisitor81> Daisy
10:26:23 <Jake> Daisy
10:27:24 <Dave from B> I think Daisy is going
10:27:39 <ynpvisitor999> I think so too, not sure though :P
10:28:15 <ynpvisitor77> Daisy, Daisy Give me your answer, do....
10:29:24 <ynpvisitor108> Thank you. I am new to this and it is difficult to tell what geysers are going
10:30:05 <ynpvisitor999> this image should help you: http://donsplace.orgfree.com/ofcc2/images/UGBpan02as_labeled.jpg
10:31:55 <ynpvisitor103> Is this Betty's first trip to the park?
10:32:03 <ynpvisitor81> no
10:32:16 <ynpvisitor81> I saw her last year
10:32:18 <ynpvisitor999> Indy!
10:32:19 <ynpvisitor999> .
10:32:20 <ynpvisitor999> .
10:32:20 <ynpvisitor81> Indy
10:32:21 <ynpvisitor999> .
10:32:22 <ynpvisitor999> .
10:32:23 <ynpvisitor999> .
10:32:40 <Jimbo Dubnium> Early!
10:32:44 <Dave from B> Do we need a tezt sent?
10:32:46 <Jimbo Dubnium> (that's not a geyser)
10:32:52 <Jimbo Dubnium> a text too
10:32:59 <ynpvisitor81> yes please
10:33:35 <ynpvisitor103> ty 81
10:34:30 <Kitt> hello
10:34:36 <Art> lol
10:34:40 <ynpvisitor999> hello Beehivers
10:34:40 <Kitt> watch how many people walk on by
10:34:43 <Kitt> so sad
10:35:32 <Kitt> text arrived
10:36:02 <Kitt> you in the park Art?
10:36:34 <Art> Next Friday
10:36:39 <Kitt> oh
10:36:43 <Casey> When did the cam come back on?
10:36:53 <Kitt> a while ago
10:37:18 <Art> 1043 according to GT
10:37:21 <Kitt> will you still be there the 31st?
10:37:34 <Art> Yup
10:37:40 <Art> 25th-9th
10:37:45 <Kitt> yay, then I will get to see you
10:38:59 <Casey> Nice. Glad I noticed in time for BH.
10:39:49 <ynpvisitor999> LC
10:42:30 <Eric> made it
10:44:24 <Eric> Glad we got a BHI today :-)
10:45:32 <Kitt> Beehive
10:45:35 <Eric> BH
10:45:36 <Kitt> Boom
10:45:37 <ynpvisitor999> boom!
10:45:42 <Kitt> oh yeah
10:46:07 <ynpvisitor999> slow, but nice start
10:46:20 <ynpvisitor59> Looks like a replay from the other day.
10:46:33 <Kitt> poor down winders
10:46:41 <Kitt> they never seem to learn
10:46:48 <ynpvisitor59> Is it live, or is it memorex?
10:46:59 <Kitt> it is wet
10:47:08 <Jimbo Dubnium> Definitely showing the energy
10:47:10 <ynpvisitor44> mines too choppy to tell
10:47:22 <Eric> Smooth here
10:47:29 <Casey> 59, you've discovered the super secret truth. Don't tell anybody.
10:47:31 <ynpvisitor44> what browser are you using?
10:47:40 <Eric> Chrome
10:47:56 <ynpvisitor44> same, is yours live or 30 second delay?
10:47:58 <Eric> run forest run
10:48:02 <Eric> Live
10:48:15 <ynpvisitor44> hmmm. i wonder whats wrong with mine then
10:48:36 <Kitt> person keeps getting off boardwalk at Depression
10:48:54 <Eric> could be bandwidth or processor
10:49:05 <Kitt> hope an interp is in the area
10:49:21 <ynpvisitor100> smoke is working its way toward the basin
10:49:22 <Casey> Back up on the bw
10:49:31 <Eric> You need a giant horn button Kitt :-) Blasting an airhorn from the webcam.
10:49:37 <ynpvisitor44> speedtest showing 280mbps, processor is at 7%. im going to check my router settings
10:49:48 <Kitt> that was the second time they got off
10:49:59 <Jake> photographers have the right-of-way to get that special photo
10:50:03 <Eric> Well, definitely not those things then :-P
10:50:25 <ynpvisitor44> yeah, lol. my pfsense router might be limiting something
10:50:35 <Casey> Will you share some of your bandwidth, 44?
10:50:51 <ynpvisitor44> Haha, i wish. i have more than i need :P
10:50:52 <Kitt> nice bee
10:50:57 <Eric> Also those bandwidth tests are not really accurate...but shouldn't be that far off.
10:51:07 <Kitt> back to chores
10:51:38 <ynpvisitor59> Almost as good as good as last night. I could have made out well if I had any money on the trifecta.
10:51:39 <Eric> Thanks for the txt BTW...whoever sent it.
10:53:02 <ynpvisitor44> https://ibb.co/kBAOSF
10:54:32 <ynpvisitor59> They must be looping you through Egypt for the cam feed.
10:54:59 <ynpvisitor44> probably
10:55:10 <ynpvisitor59> Short of readin the log, when did cam come back?
10:55:52 <ynpvisitor1> it's on GT :)
10:56:15 <ynpvisitor100> 1043
10:56:59 <ynpvisitor59> Not too long of an outage.
10:58:41 <ynpvisitor100> a lot of things were down at OF, including all cell service
11:01:13 <ynpvisitor108> What was all that steam at the left of the screen?
11:01:24 <ynpvisitor59> Castle
11:01:37 <ynpvisitor59> It is after eruption steam
11:01:38 <ynpvisitor999> just passivly steaming
11:02:24 <ynpvisitor59> Hope Betty made it through the gate.
11:10:14 <ynpvisitor44> The NPS page stream is very smooth for me.
11:10:30 <ynpvisitor59> That preset does not work
11:13:38 <ynpvisitor59> Well enjoy the people watching.
11:14:11 <Art> Roosevelt Arch cam is fixed
11:15:18 <ynpvisitor44> the iceland camera is still down :(
11:15:58 <ynpvisitor999> it's been that way since at least late summer/autumn last year
11:45:10 <ynpvisitor999> interval past GT and NPS window
11:45:41 <Eric> Maybe we can make it to 120m :-D
11:45:58 <Eric> Last OF wasn't recorded.
11:45:59 <ynpvisitor999> 10m to go now
11:46:01 <Eric> in GT
11:46:26 <ynpvisitor999> it was, 1154 wc long
11:46:51 <Eric> ohh, sorry the one before that
11:46:57 <Eric> I read the intervals wrong.
11:49:56 <ynpvisitor999> 5 minutes shy of 120m
11:51:40 <ynpvisitor999> OF long
12:49:24 <ynpvisitor62> Gate doesn't look bad for Kevin's arrival
13:24:14 <Jimbo Dubnium> Daisy in the distance
13:24:23 <ynpvisitor999> yup
13:25:20 <ynpvisitor999> I'm calling it a day for today, see you next time
13:25:40 <ynpvisitor999> maybe not yet
13:26:33 <ynpvisitor112> 1525 wc
13:27:03 <ynpvisitor999> short
13:28:31 <ynpvisitor999> now I am calling it a day
13:28:43 <ynpvisitor999> bye
13:39:31 <Eric> Lion
13:39:34 <Eric> ie
13:54:49 <Dave from B> It's Grand time
13:55:03 <Dave from B> just had a Turban delay
13:56:00 <ynpvisitor> I thought it would be time for you to go to th gym, or airport, or haircut, or something.
13:56:32 <Dave from B> haha...will be finishing the day in the market very soon. need Grand to go on next Turban
14:06:35 <ynpvisitor> Grand has got to go soon, we have people waiting at BH
14:07:17 <Hemic> Hey eric
14:07:23 <Hemic> Hey everybody :D
14:07:45 <ynpvisitor> Grand
14:08:17 <ynpvisitor> Where is Kevin when you need him?
14:16:16 <ynpvisitor> Well enjoy people watching.
14:23:34 <Eric> Hi Hemic
14:23:53 <Hemic> Hola
14:23:56 <Hemic> :d
14:23:59 <Hemic> :D
14:24:07 <Eric> Grand any moment
14:24:47 <Eric> ohhh, unless we get stuck in grand delay hell
14:26:11 <Hemic> I'm pretty sure you missed grand
14:26:29 <Hemic> Unless it was another gesyer
14:26:49 <Hemic> probably was another geyser
14:27:17 <Hemic> One second
14:27:21 <Hemic> BRB
14:29:29 <Hemic> back
14:31:13 <Eric> ohh bummer, it's not in GT and didn't see it go :-(
14:31:14 <Dave from B> I'm off to the market. Eric, you missed Grand. sorry:(
14:31:34 <Eric> Guess internet is bad today in the basin...night dave.
14:31:55 <Hemic> L|O
14:38:22 <ynpvisitor112> OF 1633 wc Long
15:06:59 <Eric> Lion
15:07:35 <Eric> Helping Hands...thank you :-D
15:08:06 <ynpvisitor112> :)
16:14:02 <ynpvisitor90> This was in the comment of Maureen's Fountain log on GT. NPS putting log deterrents (to parking) on east side of road near FLD
16:14:48 <ynpvisitor90> Im drawing a blank, what is the FLD?
16:23:48 <ynpvisitor42> Firehole Lake Drive?
16:25:47 <ynpvisitor42> OF ie - near end
16:26:52 <ynpvisitor90> thanks 42.
16:27:23 <ynpvisitor90> don't know how I didn't know that.
16:55:06 <ynpvisitor42> Aurum!
16:55:13 <ynpvisitor42> .
17:05:20 <ynpvisitor20> Daisy is late
17:36:36 <ynpvisitor99> yes, Firehole Lake Drive. People had been parking all around the corner. They ones up the main road itself, will push the cars up toward Silex, not really a good thing.
17:36:56 <ynpvisitor99> they meaning the
17:54:04 <ynpvisitor114> ho
17:54:25 <Hemic> Has Kevin arrived yet?
17:55:35 <Hemic> there he is
17:56:20 <ynpvisitor99> nice OF
17:56:27 <ynpvisitor99> did Kevin wave?
18:37:04 <ynpvisitor42> Lion ie
18:37:13 <ynpvisitor42> Daisy ie
19:51:14 <ynpvisitor64> I liked the old cam at night a lot better.