Showing logs for date: 2017-11-03
05:32:09 <Eric> wow...the first comment of the day! Morning.
05:32:20 <Dave from B> Morning Eric
05:32:56 <Joe> Hello Eric and Dave
05:34:37 <Eric> early bee today?
05:35:47 <Joe> Dont know, but there have been puffs/splashes recently.
05:36:26 <Eric> It seems like it is cycling long then short
05:38:42 <Joe> I see the camera is positioned to better see the upcoming Giantess eruption.
05:38:59 <Eric> or maybe dome :-P
05:39:18 <Joe> :)
05:42:40 <Dave from B> Morning desert dweller
05:42:49 <Kevin L™> BH 0930 -1130
05:43:01 <Dave from B> That's a long dentist appt
05:43:12 <Kevin L™> Morning to you who have a white lawn.
05:43:44 <Eric> Hi Kevin
05:43:55 <Joe> Morning, very white here for sure.
05:44:19 <Dave from B> Sales Mgr is late for work. He's in a ditch getting towed
05:44:22 <Eric> I kinda expected more snow on the ground this morning.
05:45:19 <Dave from B> I feel Joe and I have more than OF
05:45:25 <Kevin L™> Hi Eric.Close Dave. My Dr quit my insurance so I have to find a new one so I have the reams of paper to fill out for the new one.
05:49:12 <Eric> 3.9 quake in soda springs this morning
05:49:26 <Eric> shook the YFT seismo decently
05:49:47 <Dave from B> We had some activity there a month or two ago, correct?
05:50:01 <Kevin L™> Sure did
05:50:02 <Dave from B> We?
05:50:45 <Kevin L™> Another Nero update offer today Eric.
05:55:17 <ynpvisitor64> >>>:i:<<<
05:55:53 <Dave from B> short for look at me?:)
05:57:06 <ynpvisitor64> or, I'm watching. Just saw the icons. Haven't been on here for a LONG time.
05:57:48 <Dave from B> Welcome back 64. Eric created the emoji line for us
05:58:02 <ynpvisitor64> :bee: < Like this one!
06:01:06 <Kevin L™> :bhi: This one is for Indy
06:01:15 <Joe> :i::i:C:snow:
06:02:57 <ynpvisitor67> What is the GT and what is the Indy? Can't tell
06:03:37 <Kevin L™> USPS picked the right day to ask me to do a survey. Mailed a package from NV to UT (111 miles) a week ago with a 3 day promise. They sent the thing to Pittsburgh the next day and it has been "en route to the destination" for 6 days now. Glad it isn't Dave's fish.
06:03:49 <Kevin L™> Indiana Jones
06:04:09 <Kevin L™> GT is geyser Times
06:04:41 <ynpvisitor67> a tiny version of their logo?
06:04:42 <Kevin L™> Lion, Daisy, Castle, Grand are the other geysers.
06:05:20 <ynpvisitor67> :gt: this one
06:05:39 <Kevin L™> I think so.
06:05:58 <ynpvisitor97> West gate is closed
06:06:44 <ynpvisitor97> It will be a quiet day in the Basin
06:07:57 <ynpvisitor67> Just looked at NPS site for "current conditions" and see they also have a link to GT for predictions.
06:08:04 <Dave from B> It will probably open sometime today?
06:08:27 <Kevin L™> Looks open on the cam
06:09:07 <ynpvisitor97> Live roads has it closed
06:11:55 <ynpvisitor67> forecast has added more snow for tomorrow, like 90%
06:38:03 <Kevin L™> Showing 3 to 5 inches today and 5 to 8 tomorrow. :p
06:38:37 <Kevin L™> Traffic on West Gate now. https://www.nps.gov/webcams-yell/westent1.jpg?1509719872449
06:39:09 <ynpvisitor67> I understand the closures - they need to let the plows do their work without tourists in rental cars sliding all over
06:40:13 <Kevin L™> For sure!
06:40:50 <ynpvisitor67> I admire the patience of LE this time of year after a long summer
06:41:01 <Eric> both mammoths cams are broken :-(
06:41:26 <ynpvisitor67> actually I admire the patience of LE at ANY time of year!!
06:42:23 <Kevin L™> I always loved them hanging around while I was working.
06:43:16 <Dave from B> That's because they brought donuts, Kevin!
06:45:01 <Kevin L™> That is because they kept the crazy drivers a bit more sane. Had one time a guy came through our traffic control and took out our asphalt cutter who was working about 10' from me.
06:46:12 <Dave from B> I'm always amazed how inconsiderate drivers are around construction; even if they aren't under the influence.
06:47:32 <Kevin L™> We had the crossing panels out on a RR crossing. He went right over that, hit the cutter and just kept going. Hope it really damaged his truck.
06:48:08 <Kevin L™> Chilly here this morning. Down to 55°.
06:48:14 <ynpvisitor97> Those cars at the West Gate have been there for over a half hour
06:48:36 <ynpvisitor97> I am guessing they are waiting for the gate to open
06:49:12 <Kevin L™> I get a new set every few minutes.
06:49:34 <Kevin L™> Sand truck exiting the park now.
06:49:36 <ynpvisitor97> Black car, silver truck, same ones
06:50:31 <ynpvisitor97> Yes, sand truck moving, ones wanting in, not moving
06:50:36 <Kevin L™> Could be the others turned around.
06:51:01 <ynpvisitor97> Others came behind them and left
06:51:44 <Dave from B> I always amazed how many people come to the park in Oct & Nov and they the weather will be nice...and they aren't prepared for this
06:52:10 <Dave from B> FB posts on YNP siites this time of year are almost all weather related questions
06:52:24 <Kevin L™> It is funny. I have seen weather like this in July.
06:52:57 <Kent> Sun next Tuesday which doesn't do a lot of good
06:53:06 <Dave from B> What is the snow sculpture on bw?
06:53:21 <Kevin L™> We have our first snowman
06:53:38 <Dave from B> That's a snowman?
06:53:44 <Kevin L™> Not a bad one considering.
06:54:00 <Eric> man, Dave the harsh critic today :-P
06:54:20 <Eric> Get in the car and build us a better one Dave!
06:54:40 <Kevin L™> He could probably just do one on his lawn!
06:55:55 <Eric> bh is ready to blow
06:56:08 <Dave from B> My apologies, Eric but it looks like a rectangle of snow from my angle
06:56:13 <Eric> I say no indy eruption in the next 30 minutes
06:56:14 <Kevin L™> Not for another 20m Eric.
06:56:47 <Kevin L™> Got a closeup yesterday. It was pretty good.
06:57:03 <Eric> Did you guys see Grand sneak in for 5 in 24hrs last night?
06:59:13 <Kevin L™> By 1m
06:59:50 <Eric> yep...just under the wire.
07:02:21 <Kevin L™> Dave, catch yesterday's capture at 1645.
07:05:24 <Dave from B> What happened? Nothing in the logs at 1645
07:12:20 <Kevin L™> Closeup of the snowman.
07:15:44 <ynpvisitor89> Daisy ie
07:17:09 <Kevin L™> Enjoy BH
07:19:09 <Eric> You leaving?
07:19:36 <Kent> Looks like a snow tree trunk to me
07:20:25 <ynpvisitor97> Geez Kent, Steve tried
07:20:45 <Kent> Sorry :(
07:24:09 <ynpvisitor67> maybe it's just the base for a masterpiece yet to come
07:24:42 <Eric> True 67, especially with the amount of predicted snow to come this weekend.
07:26:30 <Joe> Snowman https://i.imgsafe.org/c8/c89c976ba6.png
07:27:26 <Kent> Much better view
07:28:03 <Dave from B> Looks good upclose
07:28:57 <ynpvisitor97> Last spring the snow was too dry to make one. It was nice of him to try yesterday
07:28:58 <Eric> come on :bee: erupt already!
07:29:23 <ynpvisitor97> Going somewhere Eric?
07:29:52 <Eric> Nope, but Kevin left and my prediction window ends right now :-(
07:31:38 <Joe> I have to leave at 0945, BH [u]WILL[/u] erupt shortly thereafter.
07:33:15 <Dave from B> Does Steve always bring cookies when he visits YNP?
07:33:56 <ynpvisitor97> 99% of the time Dave. He will come a day late so he can bake cookies
07:34:38 <Eric> Man, I need to coordinate visits while steve is there ;-P
07:34:47 <ynpvisitor97> It’s not Steve’s snowman I found out, still nice.
07:35:43 <ynpvisitor97> He is also a volunteer, so he picks up trash when he is there.
07:36:28 <ynpvisitor97> Still no tire tracks headed into park from West
07:36:42 <Dave from B> Yep...I need to introduce Becca to Steve to talk to him about possible summer volunterring
07:37:17 <Dave from B> 97, thanks for clarifying. It didn't look like the work of Steve
07:39:09 <ynpvisitor97> Steve wants to go to Norris. He may not get far from UGB
07:39:59 <ynpvisitor97> He said it is all slush there, it did not freeze overnight at OF
07:40:01 <ynpvisitor67> is he staying in ugb? That's better than being locked out and stuck in a motel in West
07:40:22 <ynpvisitor97> He is staying there, thankfully
07:41:58 <ynpvisitor67> yes, nice.
07:54:11 <ynpvisitor...> Yep! 0953 ie wc
07:54:33 <Eric> ?
07:54:37 <ynpvisitor...> Aurum I hope
07:54:44 <Eric> ohh, nice :-D
07:55:34 <Dave from B> That makes sense...Kevin is gone
07:57:10 <ynpvisitor91> Well I am out of the :bee: business for a few days. Enjoy the regular intervals.
07:58:57 <Eric> bye 91
08:41:06 <Dave from B> It would be fun to have a bw up to Dome
08:42:49 <Eric> That is an interesting idea dave...if you could place a 100ft of BW in any basin, where would it be?
08:44:18 <Dave from B> give me a thousand and I pick the Kaleidoscope group
08:44:30 <Dave from B> Maybe the Pink Cone area
08:45:09 <Dave from B> Shoshone
08:45:28 <Kevin L™> Well at least I did set off Aurum.
08:45:45 <Dave from B> Across the River from F&M
08:45:58 <Jake> from the few that have seen it, the backside of Clepsydra Geyser is supposed to be gorgeous https://www.google.com/maps/place/Clepsydra+Geyser/@44.5511296,-110.8098386,157m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5351e99ac9e9cdc3:0x8a03ddf94bd4544d!8m2!3d44.5511407!4d-110.8089128
08:46:43 <Eric> haha...I guess we were all thinking the exact same thing. I would have said out toward kaleidoscope too Dave :-)
08:47:07 <ynpvisitor100> seeing deep blue up close would be the best
08:47:55 <Kevin L™> I would make a piece of BW between Aurum and Doublet with a bench to watch Aurum from.
08:47:58 <ynpvisitor100> there are some old time gazers that remember the boardwalk out there, toward Kaleidoscope
08:48:31 <ynpvisitor100> there is a bw between Doublet and Aurum
08:49:43 <Kevin L™> Right. It needs a piece going from that toward the trees with a bench on it.
08:50:19 <Dave from B> As far as benches go....Aurum and Oblong please:)
08:50:47 <Kevin L™> Yes on Oblong! Same issue there!
08:50:52 <ynpvisitor87> Bench back at Clepsydra would be my first request
08:51:20 <ynpvisitor87> Aurum has a bench nearby.
08:51:42 <Dave from B> We need to squeeze another parking lot at LGB somewhere to do all this.
08:51:47 <Eric> Google maps looks like there used to be a road on out there too north of Kaleidoscope
08:51:56 <Kevin L™> But if you sit at that bench the people on the bw block your view of Aurum.
08:52:13 <Eric> I was wondering about a trail with BW extension coming off of freight road.
08:53:55 <ynpvisitor87> There was a road back in Fountain hotel days
08:54:28 <Dave from B> by freight road, you mean Fountain Flat Road?
08:54:29 <ynpvisitor87> Building boardwalks does not seem high on the NPS agenda
08:54:47 <Dave from B> I suggest a parking lot near old Fountain Hotel
08:55:03 <ynpvisitor87> It used to be called the freight road
08:55:38 <Dave from B> So, bw off freight road...you mean Pocket Basin area?
08:55:53 <Eric> Yes, Dave
08:55:59 <ynpvisitor87> They could make the present Fountain parking lot twice as big as it is and move the road east, no thermals there
08:56:35 <ynpvisitor87> No road crossing then, by far the easiest way to expand
08:57:01 <Dave from B> True 87
08:57:31 <Dave from B> Didn't they shrink parking lot after last remodel?
08:57:58 <Eric> that would work 87...but those BW already get overcrowded with current size lot :-9
08:59:02 <Dave from B> and then extend bw system from Fountain area. Make a big loop out to Kaleidoscope Group
08:59:48 <ynpvisitor100> dreamers...
09:00:03 <ynpvisitor100> they did shrink the lot
09:00:07 <Dave from B> What else is there to do on a snowy Friday afternoon?
09:00:17 <Eric> With nothing erupting...
09:00:30 <Eric> Work?
09:00:45 <Dave from B> Make a place popular like the Grand Prismatic Spring Overlook on social media and NPS we feel pressure to do something
09:01:02 <Dave from B> we = will*
09:07:51 <Dave from B> What does it cost to build 100 feet of bw?
09:09:29 <Dave from B> NPS needs a few projects to help celebrate 150th anniv of YNP in 5 years
09:10:45 <Kevin L™> With all the things they need to do and prevailing wage about $10,000 a foot.
09:13:32 <Dave from B> What's everyone doing with their extra hour this weekend?
09:13:57 <Kevin L™> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
09:17:11 <Betty> morniing all
09:19:34 <Eric> Hi Betty
09:19:45 <Kevin L™> hi
09:19:52 <Larry in Denver> Morning Betty
09:20:04 <Betty> hi Eric and Kevin and Larry
09:20:15 <Larry in Denver> Well, not morning for you but still for me
09:20:23 <Betty> late morning for me, but ok :-D
09:22:45 <Betty> how is the snowperson doing?
09:23:22 <Kevin L™> Drunk. Leaning a bit.
09:23:37 <Larry in Denver> That white car has been patiently waiting at the west entrance for quite a while
09:24:12 <Dave from B> What a way to spend a vacation...stuck in line
09:24:29 <Eric> Sounds like Disneyland :-P
09:27:20 <Dave from B> Not if you know what your doing
09:28:29 <Kevin L™> Back in the old days when they had the parking lot I was the first car to park one day.
09:29:37 <Dave from B> If you show up at any Disney property less than 40 minutes before opening......you're late
09:30:43 <Kevin L™> Then you wait in line to get in.
09:32:42 <Kevin L™> I see what BH is waiting for. Thick snow.
09:33:27 <Betty> Lion?
09:33:36 <Betty> or BH?
09:33:49 <Dave from B> If you wait in line more than 20 minutes at ANY Disney attraction, you have done something wrong in your planning
09:34:04 <Kevin L™> Does it make any difference Betty?
09:34:13 <Betty> nope
09:34:30 <Betty> ahh, the snowperson
09:41:43 <Betty> OR ie
09:41:49 <Betty> OF
09:42:29 <Betty> got to go, bbl
09:43:10 <Kevin L™> Quick day today Betty.
09:47:54 <Kevin L™> We may have Indy.
09:48:54 <Kevin L™> Nope
09:50:31 <Dave from B> OR ie...haha....does that mean MT. Hood is ie?
10:09:17 <ynpvisitor34> Old Faithful area looks lonely. I wonder if they will open the roads?
10:11:09 <ynpvisitor34> the West Gate only looks wet. I guess they had enough MVAs yesterday to justify keeping it closed today
10:13:57 <Kevin L™> Daisy ie
10:22:16 <ynpvisitor34> time for Grand?
10:33:07 <ynpvisitor34> Steve is at Bee
10:34:02 <Eric> amazed bee has not gone alerady
10:36:32 <Kevin L™> I figured my Dr appt would have triggered it
10:40:37 <ynpvisitor34> :bee: or :grand: first?
10:41:47 <Jake> my money's on :grand:
10:42:16 <Jake> I'll put a :grand: on :grand: first
10:42:29 <ynpvisitor34> ooh, do you Venmo?
10:43:12 <Jake> I haven't but I can
10:43:51 <Dave from B> My :grand: is on :grand: as well
10:44:28 <Kevin L™> I will bet the :snow: is too thick to see either one.
10:45:04 <Jake> you're always the cam-half-obscured kinda guy
10:50:27 <Eric> Kevin: http://www.columbiagorgemodelrailroadclub.com/show/
10:50:48 <Eric> People standing at West Gate...but I see no car
10:51:00 <Eric> There they go
10:53:05 <J. Praseodymium> Is Lion going to be the Beehive indicator today?
10:53:48 <ynpvisitor34> West Gate is still closed
10:54:00 <ynpvisitor34> I was wondering if Lion would go first too
10:55:15 <ynpvisitor...> On a day like today I would be in my car above Lower Hams and hoping for a long enough Indicator to at least make the overlook.
10:56:40 <ynpvisitor34> Steve wanted to go to LGB yet they would not let him, so he decided on BH watch today.
10:56:48 <ynpvisitor67> your car has to be there first
10:57:42 <ynpvisitor34> he also left Norris for the end of this trip, and now he may not get there
10:59:05 <ynpvisitor...> 'tis the truth.
10:59:55 <Kevin L™> That is nice Eric. Love the "in cab" view. BTW there is another Oregon layout in the 2018 issue of Great Model Railroads. Here is a link: http://rvmrc.net/
11:00:14 <Joe> What no Bee!!? It was supposet to erupt when I left at 0945!!
11:01:32 <Dave from B> You guys need a BH prediction?
11:02:18 <Eric> Already gave one for about 4.5 hours ago :-P
11:02:31 <Dave from B> I love model railroad layouts
11:02:47 <Joe> Put a D inplace of the t
11:03:04 <Joe> in supposet
11:03:20 <Kevin L™> They are fun Dave. I even had a German layout once.
11:05:12 <Eric> A friend had his entire basement layed out in track...it was probably 1500-2000sf Insane amount of gear.
11:05:35 <ynpvisitor3> Steve is seeing a big steam cloud from the Giant/FM direction, it is very faint on the cam
11:06:32 <Kevin L™> Really. Too much for me to maintain. Wouldn't mind a big one but I would not have a massive amount of switch tracks. Mostly mainline running.
11:06:47 <Dave from B> I wish I was handy enough to put one together
11:07:42 <ynpvisitor34> too early for F & M, I'm guessing Grotto
11:08:49 <ynpvisitor67> not a good day for Giant...
11:09:22 <Kevin L™> BTW Dave, the same Magazine has a layout in Montana running from Garrison through Billings to Huntley. Really BIG layout.
11:09:43 <Dave from B> fun
11:11:04 <ynpvisitor34> it is a big plume...
11:16:13 <Jake> looks like Grotto ie at the moment
11:17:49 <Joe> OF 1317
11:20:52 <Jake> Grand trying to out stubborn Beehive...>:(
11:30:43 <ynpvisitor34> Steve just said GIANT is confirmed
11:31:00 <ynpvisitor34> wow
11:31:16 <Dave from B> wow
11:31:19 <Jake> whaaaaaaaaa?
11:32:25 <Jake> this is Giantess weather not Giant, the basin is confused
11:32:52 <J. Praseodymium> Guess we're seeing Giant steam over the trees
11:32:56 <Jake> Grand
11:33:01 <Dave from B> Not on GT...didn't happen!:)
11:33:34 <ynpvisitor34> I would think Steve is out of breath
11:33:49 <J. Praseodymium> This will be interesting - if Giant starts looking like its frequency is getting shorter, I may have to start making travel plans for next year
11:33:53 <Kevin L™> Wow!
11:33:55 <Dave from B> yep. Hope he gets to watch a few minutes of Giant
11:34:13 <J. Praseodymium> Can you see Giant from Grand and vice versa?
11:34:14 <Dave from B> Is that 3 this year?
11:34:29 <J. Praseodymium> I think so
11:34:50 <ynpvisitor67> NICE!!
11:35:07 <ynpvisitor34> someone named Phil is there, he confirmed it, Steve in en route
11:35:23 <J. Praseodymium> Last one was October 9
11:36:12 <J. Praseodymium> It'd have to get down to a 10-15 day interval before I'd take the chance
11:36:33 <Dave from B> It's got aways to go, Jimbo
11:37:01 <J. Praseodymium> I know, so we'll see
11:38:10 <Jake> just ask the NPS when which days the road will be closed
11:38:19 <ynpvisitor34> ha, yes
11:38:22 <Jake> for the geyser knows. . .
11:38:26 <ynpvisitor34> what about BH?
11:39:05 <ynpvisitor34> I wonder if Phil saw the start?
11:39:10 <Jake> new crackpot theory: Giant geyser needs a day of no road traffic to erupt. OR a day of rumbling plow activity to erupt
11:39:43 <Dave from B> And what time will OF erupt on June 25th?
11:39:55 <J. Praseodymium> Grand at 8 minutes
11:40:00 <Jake> between noon and 2pm
11:40:00 <J. Praseodymium> or so
11:40:05 <Eric> I think you may be right Jake. 1/3 of the Giant eruptions this year have coincided with a road closure.
11:40:22 <Dave from B> haha Eric
11:40:24 <J. Praseodymium> One was at night
11:40:26 <ynpvisitor34> that is a riot
11:40:27 <Jake> I don't think I'm right. I know I'm right
11:41:01 <Eric> Hmmm, maybe snow+road closures on Fridays?
11:41:02 <Kevin L™> Think so Jimbo
11:42:58 <J. Praseodymium> OK, in all seriousness, in the interests of science, the NPS should have a dedicated drone to fly out to rare geysers and get footage. This is the 21st century!
11:43:05 <ynpvisitor34> meanwhile at BH...
11:43:17 <Dave from B> Shortest Giant interval since Jan 22, 2010
11:43:43 <Jake> Jimbo, this image says it all:
11:43:44 <Jake> https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/management/images/No-Drones.png
11:43:58 <Dave from B> Most eruptions of Giant in a year since 2008!
11:44:16 <Jake> I see "drones are allowed outside the "NO" circle"
11:44:21 <J. Praseodymium> In the early days of the streaming Webcam, I watched a twilight Giant eruption in the winter. Huge volumes of steam.
11:44:23 <Jake> Grand 2nd
11:44:51 <J. Praseodymium> Yup, a day of unusuality
11:45:09 <ynpvisitor67> Giant, Echinus, ... what's next?
11:45:21 <Dave from B> Splendid please
11:45:26 <Mickey> ^^^
11:45:27 <J. Praseodymium> Excelsior
11:45:37 <Dave from B> Plume please
11:45:40 <Mickey> How about Giantess
11:45:46 <ynpvisitor67> Butterfly!
11:45:46 <J. Praseodymium> shhh
11:45:54 <Mickey> little sister needs to get it's act together.
11:46:29 <Mickey> I wonder how long the duration of giant will be.
11:46:41 <J. Praseodymium> Cascade?
11:46:41 <ynpvisitor67> Fantail? Lioness? I'd like it to be something like that
11:47:14 <ynpvisitor67> bet it takes a while to get to Giant
11:47:39 <Mickey> It takes 6 minutes at a breakneck haul to get to F&M
11:47:50 <Mickey> so about 3 to Giant I'd expect.
11:47:59 <Jake> please don't send Giant texts on the Beehive text alert, especially when you can't even see it
11:48:00 <Mickey> ignoring tourist resistance and weather conditions.
11:48:15 <Dave from B> wow...that's quick Mickey...what size bike is that?:D
11:48:20 <ynpvisitor67> more like 10 in these conditions
11:48:24 <ynpvisitor67> to Grand
11:48:31 <Mickey> It's not the size of the bike, but the insanity of the gazer
11:48:42 <Will B> its not just for BH. its for all geysers
11:48:59 <Mickey> I'm split between Jake and Will on this one.
11:49:14 <Craig> Just got the text. assuming i'm too late for giant?
11:50:07 <ynpvisitor67> start was 1302
11:50:10 <Kitt> I just got the text also
11:50:11 <J. Praseodymium> No it's still going Craig
11:50:19 <Kitt> I hope somebody got to see it
11:50:25 <Mickey> We presume it's still going.
11:50:34 <J. Praseodymium> I can still see the steam
11:50:40 <Dave from B> Faint cloud over the trees at this point
11:50:58 <Andrew> Hello
11:50:59 <Andrew> wow
11:51:01 <Craig> I see a puff of steam now. Go Giant!!
11:51:11 <Kitt> bet you were wishing it would wait Will
11:51:25 <Kitt> when do you get to go in
11:51:35 <Will B> well as of right now i actually am not going in
11:51:41 <Will B> all the roads are closed
11:52:03 <Kitt> I thought they were open for another week
11:52:12 <Kitt> or is it due to the snow
11:52:15 <Will B> snow
11:52:20 <Kitt> ah
11:52:21 <Will B> this is closing weekend
11:52:30 <ynpvisitor34> even West entrance is closed
11:52:37 <Will B> roads close 8am monday
11:52:56 <Andrew> .
11:53:05 <Dave from B> Hi Andrew
11:53:09 <Mickey> Here's to another Giant active phase.
11:53:19 <Andrew> yes please
11:53:21 <Kitt> we get to go to Casper to bring the antique pump organ home tomorrow
11:53:38 <Kitt> Casper's snow is gone, but we still have 4 inches
11:53:50 <ynpvisitor34> That is a lot Kitt
11:53:58 <ynpvisitor34> more than the park
11:54:02 <Kitt> I thought you were going to be in this whole week Will
11:54:14 <Kitt> Dubois got 9 inches
11:54:21 <Will B> work and school....
11:54:22 <Dave from B> We are about at 4" or so as well
11:54:57 <Kevin L™> :):):):):):)
11:55:27 <Kevin L™> I have a skyfull of 72°.
11:55:39 <Andrew> I have rain but balmy 57
11:55:56 <Kitt> My sister says they are 83 degrees in Maryland
11:56:08 <Joe> Kevin, Tell us how much you :heart: the desert. :)
11:56:29 <Kitt> but there are no geysers there
11:57:12 <Kitt> Maybe Louise got to go see Giant
11:57:21 <Mickey> Kitt: depends on the desert.
11:57:57 <Joe> Las Vegas will create a Replica Geyser in front of one of the hotels:)
11:58:27 <Dave from B> Only thing missing Joe
11:58:53 <Kitt> Bee looks very splashy
11:59:30 <Joe> What Dave steam, they will use lots of C02
12:01:14 <Kitt> back to chores, listening for indy
12:01:14 <Kevin L™> We used to have real geysers in Nevada.
12:02:58 <Mickey> Kevin L you still might.
12:03:17 <Mickey> I have a couple places on my radar, but their either on private land. Or WAAAAAAAY out there.
12:04:14 <Kevin L™> I know fly geyser is out there.
12:04:37 <Mickey> Unfortunately fly isn't natural.
12:05:22 <J. Praseodymium> The Maryland Science Center by the Inner Harbor has two model geysers near the entrance. They're transparent tubes with bowls at the top, heated at the bottom. You can really see how geysers work.
12:05:49 <ynpvisitor107> Or at least the concept.
12:06:23 <J. Praseodymium> I always wish they had more complicated tubes
12:06:57 <Mickey> I believe there's a paper in one of the transactions that had experiments done with different tube set ups.
12:07:09 <Mickey> I *think* by Brian Davis.
12:08:44 <J. Praseodymium> Yeah, I think I've seen it
12:09:03 <Joe> I can see the commercials, Come to Las Vegas, see Old Faithful erupt every hour on the hour!
12:09:29 <Dave from B> "Better and taller than the original"
12:09:37 <Andrew> Ive got old faithful of calistoga near me
12:09:41 <Mickey> When I did geyser modelling at my house with the other sputs we used two main vertical tubes and then connected them with a pipe.
12:10:07 <Mickey> There was a valve on the pipe that we could turn to change how much water mixing there was between them.
12:10:33 <Kevin L™> Here is a map with the geyser on it: https://www.nevadadot.com/home/showdocument?id=1223
12:11:48 <Mickey> I think that's #40 at Steamboat Hot Springs. Or should I say *was* #40 at steamboat hot springs.
12:13:33 <Kevin L™> I am not sure. Didn't get to see it.
12:14:12 <Mickey> Yeah, it was dead by 1990. The joys of unchecked geothermal power....
12:14:25 <ynpvisitor67> will steve make it back to Beehive?
12:18:47 <ynpvisitor34> he will watch Giant until it is DONE I imagine
12:18:55 <ynpvisitor34> Phil the ranger saw it first
12:19:14 <ynpvisitor34> no one saw the start
12:19:47 <ynpvisitor67> does it last this long??? 45 min?
12:19:48 <Mickey> Giant definitely > priority than Beehive. But I also imagine Giant has finished at this point.
12:19:59 <Mickey> ynpvisitor67 60-90 minutes.
12:20:06 <Mickey> Although the recent eruptions have been on the short side.
12:20:17 <ynpvisitor67> water?
12:20:21 <Mickey> Yes.
12:20:33 <Mickey> Usually duration is calculated as the last water thrown out of the cone.
12:20:41 <ynpvisitor67> heck I'd stay down there too
12:21:22 <Mickey> I'm really liking these shortening intervals. But I'll leave it to the Giant experts to guess if we're entering another active phase.
12:22:40 <ynpvisitor34> Steve said approx 60 min for giant duration
12:23:08 <Kevin L™> Looks like West gate may be open.
12:23:36 <Dave from B> When does Winter season open?
12:25:13 <ynpvisitor67> is there a logger on it, or do we just rely on rolled signs
12:25:16 <ynpvisitor34> live roads still has it closed
12:25:23 <ynpvisitor34> winter is the 15th of Dec
12:25:35 <ynpvisitor34> a Friday this year
12:26:39 <ynpvisitor999> well... that's what I get for cutting my brother's internet access. Giant 1302
12:27:34 <Dave from B> :D
12:27:40 <ynpvisitor999> afternoon all
12:28:05 <Andrew> good afternoon DG(?)
12:28:14 <Mickey> On a smaller geyser note, I wonder what's going on in the dwarf's that's gone that UNNG active more.
12:28:25 <ynpvisitor999> evening here, Andrew
12:28:36 <Andrew> oh
12:29:09 <ynpvisitor67> Graham would like a Giant this winter.
12:29:44 <ynpvisitor999> I think just exchange of function, Mickey. Before this BW dwarf started to erupt, it was usually Red Dwarf(?) that was in eruption most of the time
12:30:35 <Mickey> So, I did some research. Red Dwarf has been extinct (or at the very least, Dormant) for years.
12:30:36 <ynpvisitor999> Castle ie
12:30:43 <Mickey> The perpetual dwarf is North Dwarf.
12:30:53 <ynpvisitor999> ah, thanks
12:31:08 <Mickey> So the one closest to Arrowhead that's now erupting is an UNNG.
12:31:24 <Mickey> Although it's been there since 2013....I think.
12:31:48 <ynpvisitor999> wonder which of the UNNG-GHG's it is
12:32:05 <Mickey> The Dwarf's are their own designation as a whole in Scott's Book.
12:32:41 <Mickey> I know several people have made maps of the cluster throughout the years. I just haven't gotten my hands on one yet.
12:32:43 <Dave from B> Is there an area of geyser turf that changes more than the Dwarves?
12:33:17 <ynpvisitor999> Porcelain area in Norris?
12:33:23 <Mickey> That's what I was thinking.
12:33:34 <Mickey> Dwarf's is definitely up there though.
12:33:42 <ynpvisitor999> that's for sure
12:33:48 <Andrew> castle
12:34:25 <Mickey> In Scott's book, the Dwarf's are collectively UNNG-GHG-3
12:35:05 <ynpvisitor999> actually reading it now
12:40:02 <ynpvisitor999> I wonder if the three eruptions of Giant are precursors of another active period
12:40:24 <Mickey> Only time will tell.
12:41:03 <Dave from B> Get another interval under a month and I'll get excited
12:41:30 <Will B> there is no logger on Giant
12:41:36 <Mickey> It took over a year from 2004-2005 to get going.
12:42:03 <ynpvisitor67> just the rolled log then, different kind of logger :P
12:44:11 <ynpvisitor999> a logger would be useful when an active period is going, but inbetween these periods not really all too much, maybe for the occasional one or two eruptions that happen
12:44:28 <Mickey> Well it would be nice during the winter.
12:44:41 <ynpvisitor999> true that
12:47:39 <ynpvisitor67> which one is this? http://gosa.org/geyser.aspx?pGeyserNo=UNNG-GHG-3
12:47:55 <Mickey> That's North.
12:48:16 <ynpvisitor67> photo not dated
12:49:26 <Mickey> North broke out sometime in the early 2000s, moved into perpetual eruption during the 2010s, and then now is periodic again.
12:50:39 <ynpvisitor67> I remember a conversation once about naming them Sleepy, Doc, Bashful, Dopey, etc.
12:50:55 <ynpvisitor999> looks like YVO isn't able to download data again. I hope this isn't going to be the case during the whole winter
12:51:07 <ynpvisitor67> in jest- don't take that seriously. :!:
12:51:21 <Dave from B> haha
12:51:40 <ynpvisitor67> Red would be Sleepy, I guess
12:51:41 <ynpvisitor999> I'd choose completely different names, to be honest
12:52:04 <ynpvisitor999> splash from Bee, maybe even a surge
12:52:36 <J. Praseodymium> I put my money on no Indy today
12:52:46 <Mickey> Well you can't name them after characters anyways, as per Yellowstone rules.
12:53:01 <Mickey> For the one that's erupting on the slope of arrowhead. I was thinking about "Clovis"
12:53:12 <Will B> NPS is calling it quits
12:53:23 <Will B> ALL ROADS CLOSED FOR WINTER
12:53:39 <ynpvisitor67> BUMMER
12:53:45 <Mickey> Good season.
12:53:51 <Dave from B> Darn...no final Fountain for Maureen
12:53:57 <ynpvisitor999> especially the last few months
12:54:46 <ynpvisitor999> three Giants, Echinus, Castle intervals under 14 hours (major-major)
12:54:57 <ynpvisitor67> concessions still need admin travel don't they?
12:55:07 <Will B> yes
12:55:12 <Mickey> We just need to get Sawmill Back.
12:55:16 <ynpvisitor999> and unfortunately an almost-dead Sawmill complex, bar Spasmodic
12:55:30 <ynpvisitor67> so they will plow for them - just not the visitors
12:55:40 <Will B> but they dont have the personnel to keep the roads open for the public with 1-2ft of snow forecasted
12:56:04 <Will B> write your congressmen to get NPS more funding 67
12:56:11 <ynpvisitor67> do you remember 2013? They opened roads that time
12:56:20 <ynpvisitor999> why don't visitors put a snow plow in front of their cars and plow the roads for themselves?
12:57:05 <ynpvisitor...> 1456 on OF
12:57:51 <ynpvisitor999> I guess this 1454 NPS prediction will be the last one for a while?
13:02:01 <Eric> what about visitors still at OF?
13:02:14 <Eric> or other lodging
13:02:39 <ynpvisitor...> Mostly just employees. All lodging been closed for some time.
13:03:14 <ynpvisitor999> they leave when they are ready to do so, likely within hours or days from now on
13:04:04 <ynpvisitor999> Indy!
13:04:06 <ynpvisitor999> .
13:04:07 <ynpvisitor999> .
13:04:08 <ynpvisitor999> .
13:04:09 <ynpvisitor999> .
13:04:09 <ynpvisitor999> .
13:04:18 <ynpvisitor999> 1503
13:04:21 <ynpvisitor...> :) no last order of fries at the Geyser Grill or $8 hot dog at Canyon
13:04:40 <Kevin L™> :)
13:04:49 <Eric> ohhhh, I thought Snow lodge was still open
13:05:12 <ynpvisitor...> Just the grill
13:05:48 <ynpvisitor...> Sports Store at Canyon
13:06:03 <ynpvisitor999> is it me or is Indy having a though time starting today?
13:06:17 <Dave from B> With lodging and roads closed, there shouldn't be any visitors remaining at OF
13:07:22 <ynpvisitor999> afternoon Kitt
13:07:23 <Kitt> thanks for text
13:07:45 <Kevin L™> yw
13:07:55 <Kitt> hopefully Beehive will be more visible than Giant
13:08:05 <J. Praseodymium> OK, glad to be wrong on Indy
13:08:12 <Eric> Looks pretty clear right now
13:08:39 <Kevin L™> Wish it would have been clearer for Giant.
13:09:05 <Eric> Yes, that would have been cool to see. Glad someone in basin could see it though.
13:11:09 <J. Praseodymium> Does Steve post pics to FB?
13:11:31 <Dave from B> I don't believe so
13:11:33 <ynpvisitor67> I think after he gets home he sometimes does
13:12:27 <Eric> All of the entrance roads look totally clear
13:13:22 <ynpvisitor999> Lion soon?
13:13:27 <Dave from B> oops. I guess he is one of the few gazers who I haven't liked on FB
13:13:39 <Will B> well the entrances are lower elevations
13:13:41 <Eric> I thought we had a lion earlier?
13:14:09 <ynpvisitor999> last Lion on GT is 0315
13:14:51 <Eric> Betty had a Lion? @ 11:30, just assumed it went.
13:15:45 <Joe> Here comes the snow
13:19:39 <ynpvisitor87> West is STILL closed
13:19:51 <ynpvisitor87> Raining in West
13:19:54 <ynpvisitor999> BH 1519
13:20:00 <ynpvisitor...> Good un!
13:20:09 <ynpvisitor67> Closed til April 20th now
13:20:19 <ynpvisitor999> almost out of nowhere if Indy wasn't erupting
13:20:55 <Dave from B> 87, roads are closed for the season now...NPS just announced
13:21:28 <ynpvisitor67> I can't remember a time when they closed early, anyone else?
13:21:36 <Eric> Looks like steve is getting last in basin BH until winter season
13:22:25 <Will B> they have closed early before
13:22:37 <Kitt> they have when it has snowed close to closing
13:23:08 <ynpvisitor87> That is just ridiculous
13:23:22 <ynpvisitor87> Bare roads to OF I bet
13:23:33 <Kitt> but snow on the way
13:23:39 <Kitt> lots of it
13:23:41 <ynpvisitor67> I don't remember that, thanks
13:23:50 <ynpvisitor87> I have driven in way more snow last month
13:24:17 <Will B> problem is all the tourists in rental cars that dont know how to drive
13:24:17 <ynpvisitor87> And just a few years ago in a foot of snow
13:24:26 <ynpvisitor87> Closing weekend
13:24:54 <Kitt> well off to get a trailer for the pump organ
13:24:57 <ynpvisitor87> I wonder if Steve can stay
13:25:01 <Kitt> have a good day
13:25:10 <Kevin L™> bye Kitt
13:25:12 <Dave from B> Travel safe, Kitt
13:25:24 <Kitt> hopefully Giant's logs get put back before everyone leaves
13:25:27 <Kitt> bye
13:27:38 <ynpvisitor67> someone said they told Steve he couldn't go to LGB so maybe he is stuck there!
13:29:01 <Eric> Bummer, stuck in UGB all fall! Rough life :-P
13:29:16 <Dave from B> hOPE HE BROUGHT ENOUGH COOKIES TO LAST UNTIL dEC 15
13:29:23 <ynpvisitor67> lol
13:29:52 <Kevin L™> i BET HE DID.
13:30:17 <Dave from B> I heard a story about a guy this morning who got locked in the convenience store beer cooler all night
13:30:46 <Dave from B> They found him the next morning with a few empties nearby and he refused to pay
13:30:56 <Dave from B> Got arrested
13:32:41 <Joe> Got to prop the snowman back upright
13:33:10 <ynpvisitor999> I wonder how long the snowman will last for
13:35:24 <Dave from B> Dec 12 when he will be run over by the plow
13:36:22 <ynpvisitor999> is that winter season start?
13:37:37 <ynpvisitor67> 15th is oversnow travel opening
13:38:32 <Dave from B> staff arrives before opening; that is the reason for my guess
13:38:46 <ynpvisitor999> I see
13:39:00 <ynpvisitor67> it will probably melt next Wednesday
13:39:05 <Dave from B> Time to head out. Have a great weekend everyone!
13:39:14 <ynpvisitor999> you too, Dave
13:39:59 <Kevin L™> Later Dave.
13:41:04 <ynpvisitor34> giant erupted? what?
13:41:11 <ynpvisitor999> yes
13:41:35 <Kevin L™> A parting shot
14:06:34 <ynpvisitor...> Sad to see the season close on this mixed note. Time for some Lithium and Diet Coke :thumbsup::(:thumbsdown:
14:07:51 <Kevin L™> Does that make you glow in the dark?
14:08:12 <ynpvisitor67> yeah, GO GIANT- but Sad to see it close early.
14:11:49 <ynpvisitor100> Good one Kevin.
14:12:41 <ynpvisitor999> well Kevin, Lithium reacts heavily with water, so I think at least your mouth would be in a bit of pain for the next few weeks to months
14:13:36 <ynpvisitor999> though not as bad as sodium, potassium, rubidium and ceasium
14:22:22 <ynpvisitor999> big OF preplay - didn't start
14:25:24 <ynpvisitor101> I've seen two notices that the park roads are closed for the season but don't see that stated on the park roads page, FB or Twitter pages. Where did that info come from?
14:26:56 <ynpvisitor67> Will B?
14:28:50 <ynpvisitor100> Steve E verified it.
14:29:34 <ynpvisitor101> Odd that they haven't used their social media to announce it since it is still before 5PM
14:33:27 <ynpvisitor67> there is a # you can call but I don't have it handy
14:40:09 <ynpvisitor999> camop (if you're here): OF hasn't erupted yet and is still in the prediction window of both GT and NPS
14:40:44 <ynpvisitor999> OF ie static
14:42:43 <ynpvisitor999> well... at least I caught it on the static
14:43:01 <ynpvisitor999> I wonder if it is a short
14:43:49 <ynpvisitor999> though it appeared to be in mid eruption on the static
14:44:41 <ynpvisitor100> 307-344-2117. They have NOT updated the report, they offer a web site that links to live roads
14:46:03 <ynpvisitor100> looks like the snow may come, so maybe a good call on their part.
15:05:53 <ynpvisitor999> Lion ini
15:27:24 <Betty> still snowing
15:27:55 <Kevin L™> We left some Lions for you.
15:28:04 <Betty> nice
15:28:27 <Kevin L™> Too bad you missed BH and Giant
15:28:38 <Betty> what whatwhat?????????????????
15:28:51 <Kevin L™> Yep
15:28:56 <Betty> giant?
15:29:07 <Betty> could you see it?
15:29:20 <Kevin L™> Sort of
15:29:29 <Betty> ah, I see it has a webcam time
15:29:41 <Kevin L™> 1302wc field confirmed
15:29:47 <Betty> cool
15:30:11 <Kevin L™> No more feet on the ground. They closed the park early.
15:30:31 <Betty> oh, really?
15:31:06 <Betty> Sunday should have been the last day, right?
15:31:23 <Kevin L™> Expecting massive snow this weekend. I expect they didn't want people trapped in the park.
15:31:33 <Kevin L™> Yes on Sunday.
15:31:53 <Betty> think this is the better way
15:32:20 <Kevin L™> I missed both Aurums today.
15:39:45 <Betty> Riverside ie
15:53:50 <ynpvisitor34> its not snowing anymore
16:09:17 <ynpvisitor100> this time on Sunday it will be dark
16:10:44 <Betty> OF
16:10:46 <ynpvisitor34> OF
16:22:29 <Betty> Lion ie
17:22:38 <kcmule> coyote
17:28:48 <kcmule> again, with lion watching
17:31:36 <ynpvisitor26> Coyote has been showing up about this time for the last few days. Wonder if ti the same one we kept seeing last winter in the evenings.
17:46:18 <kcmule> OF
18:04:44 <ynpvisitor34> grand? or something
18:05:13 <Kevin L™> Too soon for another Giant.
18:09:11 <ynpvisitor34> maybe that was oblong?
18:11:02 <ynpvisitor17> it was Grand
19:16:21 <Kevin L™> 4.2 eq east of Thermopolis.
20:25:55 <Kent> Lithium didn't work. I am still unhappy.