Showing logs for date: 2017-11-30
05:08:36 <Ryan> Mmm... snowy
05:08:37 <ynpvisitor76> Was last beehive eruption not posted to GT? Next prediction seems long otherwise
05:11:27 <Ryan> Must not have been
05:11:59 <Ryan> Or they are going on a double.
05:12:03 <Ryan> OR - its from yesterday
05:12:44 <Dave from B> 76, BH will more than likely be found in overnight captures when they are available
05:14:44 <Joe> Ryan, Are you a native of "West by God smile when you say it Virginia?
05:15:16 <Ryan> Not exactly.
05:15:31 <Ryan> I grew up about 35min north of the WV/PA border.
05:15:46 <Ryan> I am, to be fair, as much a West Virginian as those who grew up in Morgantown :)
05:15:59 <Ryan> ...but I do smile when I say "West Virginia" :)
05:16:19 <Joe> was curious since you go to university there.
05:17:02 <Ryan> Not a native, but while I physically grew up in Pa it is fair to say I did the rest in WV.... and WY.
05:17:39 <Joe> I grew up not far from you, Follansbee WV
05:19:13 <Joe> seems like a thousand years ago or so...
05:21:45 <Ryan> Yeah, that aint all that far away!
05:26:35 <Dave from B> My only time in WV was on a cross country trip via I-64 about 30 years ago
05:27:12 <Joe> wv i64
06:15:37 <Jimbo Hydrogen> While this is fogged in, I'm looking at Agung. I can see emissions from the peak, some glow, and there's some lightning, which makes me thing it's still releasing ash.
06:17:54 <Jimbo Hydrogen> UGB is getting brighter
06:30:01 <Dave from B> BH has been found 0137
06:31:01 <Joe> Look at it and indy on capture well lit beautiful
06:31:58 <Jimbo Hydrogen> What's the link again?
06:33:00 <Joe>
06:35:45 <Jimbo Hydrogen> Thx!
06:36:07 <Joe> yw
06:37:33 <Jimbo Hydrogen> Grand at 0314
06:37:39 <Dave from B> OF ie
06:38:59 <Jimbo Hydrogen> that's already on GT
06:39:58 <Kevin L™> Better view for BH than it is now!
06:50:50 <Dave from B> Giantess steam is amazing in winter
06:52:11 <Kevin L™> Blocks Aurum.
07:01:55 <Dave from B> We should have Grand steam to mess with down basin view very soon
07:02:17 <Dave from B> might even be going now
07:25:46 <Joe> Grand
07:25:51 <Dave from B> Grand?
07:26:03 <Dave from B> wow...looks like a shuttle launch
07:31:45 <Jimbo Hydrogen> There is NO wind (accounting for the fog earlier)
07:32:20 <Jimbo Hydrogen> Great frosted trees
07:32:36 <Jimbo Hydrogen> now that we can see 'em -- might've been freezing fog
07:43:38 <Joe> Lucky, got to see Grand before fog rolled in wonder if it will clear for Castle
07:44:25 <Dave from B> I'm thinking Castle is responsible for this steam cloud
07:46:06 <Joe> Yes seems so
07:49:01 <Dave from B> We're going to need temps of 15-20 before down basin views improve
07:49:43 <Dave from B> Almost time for Lion to mess up the GH view
07:53:27 <Dave from B> geyser fog/steam is blowing this way now
07:54:58 <Kevin L™> Speaking of more fog.
07:57:53 <Dave from B> Kevin, are you recovered from Thanksgiving yet?
08:00:43 <Kevin L™> Sort of. Been a busy week.
08:21:53 <Kevin L™> Looks like Castle is in steam phase. Didn't see it posted on GT. Bet that was where our fog came from during Grand.
08:25:09 <Dave from B> Yep. Castle is usually the culprit when downbasin is socked in
08:25:59 <Kevin L™> I thought that may be Daisy but it appears to be sprinkler.
08:26:28 <ynpvisitor94> What three features are we seeing right now?
08:26:36 <Ryan> L-R
08:26:47 <Ryan> Crested Pool, Sprinkler Geyser, Split Cone Geyser
08:26:56 <Ryan> I assume you mean the three big plumes.
08:26:57 <ynpvisitor94> Thanks
08:27:10 <ynpvisitor94> Yes I did mean the 3 plumes
08:27:24 <Ryan> I lied
08:27:30 <Dave from B> right plume is Spasmo
08:27:32 <ynpvisitor53> the 3rd big plume is from behind split cone
08:27:42 <Eric> Morning
08:27:43 <ynpvisitor53> yes spasmodic
08:27:47 <Ryan> now that the right most plume has changed I'd say Spasmodic
08:27:49 <Dave from B> Morning Eric
08:27:57 <Ryan> But it did look like SC at first.
08:28:49 <ynpvisitor94> God I love yellowstone! Was there is summer for 2nd time, and can't wait to go back
08:30:34 <Dave from B> 94, It is addicting but doesn't cause cancer
08:31:38 <Kevin L™> It does if it is snowing!
08:31:54 <ynpvisitor94> My only regret is I had found these sites before I went, I could have been much better informed.
08:32:30 <Kevin L™> It does help. Makes you trip better too.
08:32:43 <Dave from B> 94, how many nights did you sepnd in YNP?
08:32:53 <ynpvisitor94> My kids loved it anyway, and my 9 yr old daughter already wants to go back.
08:33:29 <Kevin L™> We are working on the 3rd generation of gazers in my family.
08:34:04 <ynpvisitor94> We were there 5 days, August 4th through 8th. Camped at Grant Village, did the entire place.
08:34:16 <Kevin L™> Do you know about the FRS radios 94?
08:34:42 <ynpvisitor94> No I do not know about FRS Radio, what is that?
08:35:42 <Kevin L™> They are small radios that you can pickup about anywhere. The gazers us channel 4 subchannel 5 in the basin. Lot of good information.
08:36:10 <Kevin L™> Needs to have a motorola compatible subchannel.
08:37:24 <ynpvisitor69> Any particular brand recommendations on the radio? I'm seeing a great Christmas gift idea here,,
08:39:40 <Kevin L™> I like the Motorolas best myself. Here is one type but they have several:
08:41:22 <Kevin L™> This is a lower end version:
08:41:56 <ynpvisitor69> Fantastic!! Thank you!
08:43:26 <Kevin L™> I have had 6 motorolas from about 12 to 8 years back. Kids lost 2 of them, one was killed by a leaking battery and the other 3 work fine.
08:45:03 <ynpvisitor116> If you were sitting at Grand and all the gazers suddenly got up an ran away, it's because they heard a Beehive
08:45:15 <ynpvisitor116> Indicator call on FRS ynpvisitor69!
08:46:01 <ynpvisitor116> Or they got the text on their phone - that's really useful too ynpvisitor69
09:03:37 <ynpvisitor94> I talked with a bunch of watchers while we waited for Fan and Motar to go ( It never did), but I learned a lot from them.
09:04:01 <ynpvisitor94> If was nice that they were willing to share infomtaion with the novices in the crowd.
09:07:42 <ynpvisitor94> We got to see Beehive, Lion, Grand, and Daisy, and of course OF. Castle was going of at night so we missed that one.
09:08:23 <Kevin L™> Gazers are a fun group. If you haven't seen this the BBC did a piece on the gazers since they were helped out by the group:
09:08:48 <Eric> Sounds like you had a great trip 94 :-D
09:13:40 <Kevin L™> This is also a must have:
09:14:14 <Dave from B> Most gazers will share info. I love talking to tourists who show interest
09:14:35 <Dave from B> As long as you don't call me "homeless"
09:14:45 <Kevin L™> :)
09:17:49 <ynpvisitor94> yes we did have a great trip, we drove out from Update NY, did badlands, rushmore, black hills, devils tower, yellowstone, Rocky Mountain, 5,553 miles over 16 days.
09:18:11 <ynpvisitor94> ^Upstate, NY
09:18:26 <Kevin L™> Long trip!
09:18:52 <Dave from B> wow...that's a trip
09:19:12 <Eric> Yes...awesome trip. Hopefully you spent some time in Custer State Park!
09:19:17 <ynpvisitor94> Yup, but well worth it. Hopefully something my kids will remember the rest of their lives. I know I will!!
09:19:42 <ynpvisitor94> Stayed at Sylvan Lake in Custer SP.
09:20:08 <Eric> Very of my favorite spots in the country.
09:20:20 <Kevin L™> Hope you got Grand and Beehive Geysers.
09:20:54 <ynpvisitor94> I stayed at Sylvan lake 31 years ago, and had to take my kids their to swim in the lake.
09:21:21 <Jimbo Hydrogen> I camped at Sylvan Lake too -- and hundreds of moons have passed since then. But it was beautiful.
09:21:56 <ynpvisitor94> Kevin, Yes we saw Grand, and Beehive. Grand went off just as we walked up to it, perfect timing.
09:23:42 <Kevin L™> That is the one that hooked me. I really like to sit there about an hour and watch the cycles before Grand. Lot of stuff there to watch.
09:29:50 <Kevin L™> Beehive has less to watch but Depression is fun. You can watch its cycles and if you are lucky it will erupt. It just kind of spills over the rim about an inch for a few minutes and then does a bit of splashing.
09:30:36 <Kevin L™> Then there is the evil geyser Aurum. Not predictable to say the least but it is fun when it goes:
09:31:01 <Dave from B> Black Hills are fun. I love the tunnels that frame Mount Rushmore.
09:31:17 <ynpvisitor94> When I was a kid and went we saw Echinus Erupt, it went on for what seemed like hours (probably wasn't), but that one hooked me.
09:32:12 <Kevin L™> Echinus was fun. It did erupt a bit about a month ago.
09:32:21 <Kevin L™> The drain was fun.
09:34:17 <Dave from B> 94, what non thermal features did you like in YNP?
09:36:10 <ynpvisitor94> The animal jams were fun! We sat in the Hayden Valley for 2 hours while buffalo crossed the road
09:38:55 <Eric> It can get ugly over in hayden during the rut
09:44:52 <Eric> I drove my truck down to Nez Perce Ford Parking area, along the yellowstone river to watch a meteor shower. It is amazingly dark and scary there at 1am with bison wandering around snorting :-P
09:54:22 <Dave from B> haha. Walk in the dark to Grand from GH with no full moon and you'll hear lots of sounds
09:54:28 <Eric> coyote
09:54:32 <Dave from B> Coyote
09:54:33 <Dave from B> ;;
09:54:34 <Dave from B> ;;
09:54:46 <Eric> While E
09:55:28 <Dave from B> Has anyone ever seen trout jumping rapids at LeHardy in YNP? That is an amazing sight
09:55:32 <Eric> Nice work camop
09:55:37 <ynpvisitor12> he wants tourists so he can have some snacks
09:55:43 <Dave from B> great shot
09:56:05 <Jimbo Hydrogen> Wow, this is nature photography!!
09:56:37 <Eric> healthy looking
09:58:00 <ynpvisitor12> it has been a warm fall
09:58:23 <Eric> back to the right
09:58:26 <Eric> on BW
09:58:54 <Eric> there we go
09:59:15 <Eric> love the snow on his nose
09:59:19 <Eric> or her nose
10:00:10 <Dave from B> That was fun
10:00:25 <ynpvisitor94> I saw bison way down there also when the camera was kicking around.
10:00:32 <Eric> on static
10:00:40 <ynpvisitor94> Who controls the camera?
10:00:58 <Kevin L™> Right now I do.
10:01:45 <ynpvisitor94> Oh, that is cool. How did you get that job?
10:04:08 <Kevin L™> It is a volunteer position with the NPS. Been a gazer since 1978 so I knew the geysers.
10:04:08 <ynpvisitor12> he gets paid a lot!
10:04:35 <Kevin L™> All holidays are triple time!
10:06:24 <Dave from B> Kevin, how many active camops are there right now?
10:07:25 <Kevin L™> I think 8.
10:11:47 <ynpvisitor12> Is Dave M on holiday? I have not seen a post from him in ages
10:13:06 <Kevin L™> I think so
10:20:45 <Dave from B> Kevin, I still dream of you driving 3 cams at one:)
10:21:22 <Dave from B> and then I wake up because you burnt your cookies:D
10:21:57 <Kevin L™> Computer cookies?
10:22:06 <Dave from B> Time for :lion:
10:22:14 <Dave from B> haha
10:24:50 <Dave from B> Imagine having 3 cams and trying to watch Fountain, Beehive and F&M at the same time
10:28:54 <Ryan> Grotto?
10:34:20 <Betty> hello all
10:34:37 <Eric2> Hi Betty
10:34:51 <Betty> hi Eric2
10:37:29 <Betty> thanks for the link to static archive, btw :)
10:38:20 <Eric> No problem :-) Also added link directly to the Norris YVO page
10:38:34 <Eric> if you clikc the Norris Daily Logger header
10:38:37 <Eric> click
10:38:41 <Betty> :thumbsup::thumbsup:
10:44:21 <Betty> seems to be Aurum
10:44:47 <Betty> though I don´t see it
10:45:12 <Kevin L™> Never saw it on static.
10:46:03 <Betty> neither me
10:46:14 <Betty> hi Kevin
10:47:49 <Kevin L™> Hi.
11:01:00 <Ryan> Dome
11:06:13 <Dave from B> Nice view from Washburn today
11:10:07 <Eric> lion looks hot
11:10:12 <Eric> of
11:11:06 <ynpvisitor12> POOF
11:13:38 <ynpvisitor40> a long
12:10:54 <Betty> Riverside
12:21:42 <ynpvisitor12> a person!!
12:28:14 <Betty> Daisy
12:34:26 <ynpvisitor104> Domy looks warm
12:35:04 <ynpvisitor104> I am just here fo BH. It has half an hour.
12:35:47 <Betty> ok, need to push BHI button then :-)
12:36:02 <ynpvisitor104> You got a long stick?
12:36:50 <Betty> ----------------------------------------
12:36:55 <Ryan> I have detergent.....
12:37:00 <Ryan> ....too far>
12:37:02 <Ryan> ?
12:37:05 <Betty> bah
12:37:31 <Ryan> Every group needs at least one person who takes humor too far
12:37:56 <Betty> :-)
12:37:57 <Ryan> At the risk of opening a wildfire debate on the ethics of soaping a geyser.
12:38:33 <Betty> if it is dirty? why not :-p
12:38:37 <ynpvisitor104> On a lighte subject. Gomer died today.
12:38:54 <Ryan> Thats lighter than geyser soaping?
12:39:21 <ynpvisitor104> To the NPs I am sure
12:40:26 <Ryan> Eh, I'd expect the gazers to be more upset over it than the park. The park has a legal basis for them. Gazers have an almost entirely emotional base. That can lead to some very extreme reactions.
12:40:37 <Eric> Does soaping a geyser damage it in any way?
12:41:37 <ynpvisitor104> I am sure it does no good for the bacteria, and other critters lifing in the flow water.
12:41:57 <Eric> Like feeding wildlife doesn't immediately hurt it, but long term it gives wildlife bad/unnatural behaviors.
12:42:06 <Ryan> Eric, the short answer: most likely.
12:42:23 <Eric> True would definitely impact microbiology
12:42:32 <Betty> think of all the soap bubbles
12:42:49 <Ryan> I think its safe to say that inducing a normally erupting geyser (Grand, BH, etc) probably wont do any physical damage - at least no more than a normal eruption would.
12:43:18 <Ryan> But inducing something like... Morning Glory, or Link, would have some seriously damaging effects.
12:44:15 <Ryan> Thats physical damage ONLY. I cant comment on microbiology or water chemistry
12:44:55 <ynpvisitor104> Maybe soap would clean out Morning Glory?
12:45:26 <Ryan> They have tried to induce it in the past several times. I dont think any of them worked.
12:45:37 <Ryan> Soap, realistically, IS the most damaging form of inuction
12:46:32 <ynpvisitor104> Well no soap then, how about bubble bath?
12:47:06 <Eric> there are probably some natural surfactants
12:47:15 <Ryan> There are many other ways that don't involve mixing in chemicals. Ice, physically changing the outflow patterns (Solitary), or inflow patterns...
12:48:43 <Eric> anyone know the best surfactant type for induction? Anionic, Amphoteric, Cationic or Nonionic
12:49:23 <Eric> of
12:49:26 <Eric> and dome
12:49:58 <Ryan> No clue, tbh. And surfactants dont always work.
12:51:46 <Eric> True...if water tension isn't balancing the eruption, it won't make any difference
12:52:10 <Ryan> Much of it depends on the internal mechanism that triggers the reaction. And every feature has a different trigger.
12:53:22 <ynpvisitor104> Trigger, i though he was stuffed and in a museum?
12:54:12 <Ryan> Uhhh.... huh....
12:54:21 <Ryan> Welp, on that note. Off to class.
13:00:29 <Joe> Grand
13:04:31 <ynpvisitor104> Well BH looses. It does not get to entertain me today.
13:08:44 <Eric> pan down...was that a bear or right and down
13:09:04 <Eric> anyone else see that?
13:09:18 <Betty> only the hump
13:09:29 <Joe> missed it
13:09:57 <Eric> seemed like the wrong color for a bison...but I just glanced up as it was going out of cam range
13:10:03 <Betty> disappeared towards Lion
13:11:18 <Joe> to look at the capture later about 1508
13:18:41 <Betty> tall bubbler
13:23:16 <Betty> enjoy the rest of the day. Night all
13:25:30 <Dave from B> Nite Betty
13:28:58 <Dave from B> Kevin, what times does your shift end? 1600?
13:32:53 <Dave from B> I've read that Giant damages itself because it is so powerful. Is that true and if so, what other geysers "rip themselves apart?"
13:35:53 <ynpvisitor108> Fan is giving up pieces of itself with many of the eruptions
13:37:00 <Dave from B> I'm not real familiar with Fan's history. How long have its dormancies periods been in the past
13:38:08 <ynpvisitor81> coyote on SC
13:38:25 <Joe> Wolf? or Coyote?
13:39:01 <Joe> Thanks 81
13:39:02 <ynpvisitor5> coyote, it finally turned its head in profile
13:39:11 <ynpvisitor81> Whatever it is it is wishing those bison were dinner.
13:39:25 <ynpvisitor5> cool shot!
13:40:47 <Dave from B> That's my puppy!
13:41:15 <Dave from B> He's trying to stay warm
13:42:59 <Dave from B> I sure wish we had sound
13:46:42 <ynpvisitor5> that dog was off leash now he's run away
13:46:51 <Dave from B> Oblong?
13:50:37 <Eric> I think the Mammoth Terrace webcam is plugin into a switched outlet and employees keep turning it off and one :-P
13:50:47 <Eric> one
13:50:49 <Eric> on
13:51:01 <Eric> apparently I cannot type "on" without the e
14:10:56 <Graham> oohhi seeF&M electronic times showed up
14:13:39 <Graham> guess they have been there for a few days, but nice to see we have some data
14:22:35 <Graham> zzzzz
14:26:03 <Graham> Lion
14:27:35 <Graham> of
14:53:03 <ynpvisitor78> :bee:
14:53:10 <ynpvisitor78> :bee::bee:
14:53:36 <Graham> nice
14:53:38 <Graham> to
14:53:39 <Graham> see
14:53:39 <Graham> it
14:53:59 <Graham> indi?
14:54:04 <Graham> there now
14:54:22 <Eric> booya
14:54:44 <Graham> right on time too
14:56:02 <Graham> so 1653 for BHI, or ie?
15:00:41 <Kevin L™> Did I ever mention how much I hate cars?
15:00:59 <Graham> chickens?
15:01:42 <Kevin L™> No, cars. Had to take my Dad's to the shop and my daughters broke too so I had to rescue her. :p
15:02:22 <Kevin L™> Not to mention I still don't have one that works.
15:02:28 <Graham> at least you were back in time for BH
15:02:42 <Kevin L™> Nope.
15:02:49 <Kevin L™> Just walked in.
15:02:59 <Kevin L™> Now to feed the chickens.
15:03:10 <Graham> hope they are good to you
15:03:47 <Kevin L™> At least the chicken you can kill and eat if they give you problems.
15:05:34 <Kevin L™> My favorite video today:
15:07:10 <Graham> haha sounds like you could have siome fun
15:11:20 <Kevin L™> I do have 20 pounds of the stuff.
15:12:27 <ynpvisitor78> did not see indy before BH, so I think you are correct
15:13:07 <Kevin L™> Daisy
15:17:29 <Kevin L™> Not sure what Amazon is trying to tell me: "Based on your recent activity, we thought you might be interested in this."
15:19:25 <Graham> a rubber chicken?
15:19:58 <Kevin L™> For $160 I would use rubber, but not chickens!
15:20:53 <Kevin L™> 4.1 eq near Dover DE. Odd place for that!
15:21:06 <ynpvisitor7> I see Indy now has an Indicator.
15:21:40 <ynpvisitor7> With Kevin's car luck, he may have to go back to work just to get some wheels.
15:22:37 <Kevin L™> It seems to be catching too
15:24:50 <ynpvisitor7> Better sta way from your buddies train.
15:25:34 <ynpvisitor7> I thin kit is capable of self powered explosions.
15:26:26 <Kevin L™> He just rebuilt th boiler but you are right!
15:27:55 <ynpvisitor7> Just think of all the old iron that they destroyed making movies.
15:30:25 <Kevin L™> They sure did. BTW Dan's train is a movie star too. It was in Torrid Zone and The Shootist plus some more.
15:38:02 <ynpvisitor7> So who gets paid more, the engine, or the engineer?
15:38:03 <Graham> lion
15:38:07 <ynpvisitor7> Lion
15:38:19 <ynpvisitor7> :lion:
15:38:27 <ynpvisitor7> Took me a while to find it
15:45:00 <ynpvisitor109> OF
15:48:30 <Eric> :castle:?
15:48:57 <Eric> guess not...just steam
16:18:00 <ynpvisitor78> grand
16:18:28 <ynpvisitor78> no
16:27:42 <ynpvisitor27> Dan owns the engine and brings it out and gives rides at his own expense.
16:29:46 <ynpvisitor7> No, when it is in the movies. With Hollywood's reputation for destroying rear and collectible things to make a buck, I would not rent them something like that unless I ran it and they paid for lots of insurance.
16:30:07 <ynpvisitor7> Sorry Rare.
16:30:49 <ynpvisitor7> Thogh they have been known for rears also
16:34:10 <ynpvisitor54> It was owned by Warner Brothers and then sold to Old Vegas which was destroyed by fire. The engine was severely damaged and they were going to scrap it but Dan bought it and restored it. It is now one of the oldest operating steam engines in the world.
16:35:13 <ynpvisitor7> Lucky engine. So he has never had it in a movie?
16:35:54 <ynpvisitor54> (I am on my iPad so my name may quit and change.)
16:36:32 <ynpvisitor7> Isn't it now a kPad?
16:37:25 <ynpvisitor7> Working on Christmas presents?
16:38:33 <ynpvisitor54> He has had offers but he won't let them paint it. He hand painted it using samples from a Eureka & Palisade engine at the California Railroad Museum.
16:40:02 <ynpvisitor7> So it must be a standard gauge? He have any trouble finding track to run it on?
16:40:17 <ynpvisitor54> Yes. Got a few pen orders and some other projects.
16:41:18 <ynpvisitor54> It is a 3 foot narrow gauge. He even built the track it runs on at the museum.
16:42:29 <ynpvisitor7> He must be hard to shop for. Th man who does have everything.
16:42:32 <ynpvisitor54> He has run it at the Cumbres & Toltec, Durango, and a plaster company in California.
16:43:43 <ynpvisitor54> He is building a passenger car and does it all by himself including the metal castings!
16:48:04 <ynpvisitor7> :lion: I think
16:48:22 <ynpvisitor7> Not sure when it started was reaing
16:48:30 <ynpvisitor7> reading on a different page
16:49:05 <ynpvisitor54> Looks like it but not a big one.
16:56:19 <ynpvisitor7> So he has track, the engine, and will have a passenger car. You both will have model railroads, his is just a wee bit bigger.
16:57:28 <ynpvisitor7> Is he the certified operator of the boiler?
17:08:54 <ynpvisitor54> He is licensed for it. Most of the railroads require their own engineer though.
17:17:30 <ynpvisitor7> Well off to make something to eat. Enjoy the smell of cutting wood.