Showing logs for date: 2018-04-27
03:31:20 <ynpvisitor98> turban
03:33:18 <ynpvisitor999> Dep or Dwarf?
03:49:09 <ynpvisitor999> Caste
03:49:12 <ynpvisitor98> Castle
03:50:09 <ynpvisitor999> Dome possibly ie on static?
03:54:05 <ynpvisitor999> Daisy ie
03:55:23 <ynpvisitor999> Dome ie static
03:56:00 <ynpvisitor98> Castle minor?
03:56:17 <ynpvisitor999> not sure yet
03:56:38 <ynpvisitor999> I'd wait, maybe it's just a pause
03:58:15 <ynpvisitor999> doesn't look promising
04:00:24 <ynpvisitor98> Micah is near castle maybe he will update soon
04:02:49 <ynpvisitor999> Micah called it a minor
04:11:30 <ynpvisitor999> seems like Dome started a few hours ago
04:13:25 <ynpvisitor999> or maybe not even that
04:26:27 <ynpvisitor999> quite the steam plume from Terra Cotta area
04:39:53 <Rice> What is the steam plume next to Beehive, does not look like Indy?
04:40:32 <ynpvisitor999> what side of Beehive?
04:40:45 <Rice> To the Right
04:41:04 <Rice> Just got big,
04:41:13 <ynpvisitor999> that's Beehive itself :)
04:41:30 <Rice> hard to tell without a zoom
04:42:15 <ynpvisitor999> when Indy is erupting, you'd see two plumes close to each other
04:50:36 <ynpvisitor999> morning Jimbo
04:51:00 <Jimbo Hafnium> Good morning, Triple 9
04:53:11 <ynpvisitor999> Hafnium was used in the Apollo Lunar Modules as part of the nozzle of the engine
04:55:29 <Jimbo Hafnium> Last time this element came up I learned that
04:56:01 <Jimbo Hafnium> One of the lesser known but useful elements
04:56:28 <ynpvisitor999> indeed
05:11:30 <ynpvisitor25> is that indy 0708?
05:11:51 <ynpvisitor999> I don't see Indy
05:12:06 <ynpvisitor999> nor after reloading the stream
05:12:58 <ynpvisitor999> morning Dave
05:13:11 <Dave from B> Morning DG
05:13:35 <ynpvisitor999> Dome static
05:14:17 <ynpvisitor25> sure looks like indy
05:14:50 <ynpvisitor999> Indy starting
05:14:57 <ynpvisitor999> .
05:14:58 <Rice> I htought so also, but we think it is just Beehive Splashing
05:14:58 <ynpvisitor999> .
05:14:59 <ynpvisitor999> .
05:15:00 <ynpvisitor999> .
05:15:01 <ynpvisitor999> .
05:15:25 <Dave from B> are you sure?
05:15:40 <Art> Saw the splash
05:15:40 <Dave from B> no indy
05:15:48 <Dave from B> It won't be long
05:15:49 <Art> No indy though ;)
05:15:52 <ynpvisitor999> I really thought so
05:15:58 <ynpvisitor999> Stupid bubblers
05:16:03 <Rice> What is that on the left?
05:16:20 <ynpvisitor25> south bubblers
05:20:38 <ynpvisitor999> those splashes made me think BHI was starting
05:21:03 <Dave from B> Micah must be at Anenome
05:21:55 <ynpvisitor999> stream being zoomed out and the bubblers going make it relatively hard distinguishing BHI, BH and bubblers from each other
05:22:22 <ynpvisitor25> it fooled me
05:24:28 <Dave from B> It would be fun if we could see when water first enters BHI
05:47:43 <ynpvisitor25> I'd bet that is Micah on the bw near plumes corner waiting for Bh
05:50:11 <ynpvisitor999> Steam from Grotto-Giant area
05:56:21 <Kevin L™> Now that is Indy
05:56:24 <Kevin L™> .
05:56:25 <Kevin L™> .
05:56:25 <Kevin L™> .
05:56:26 <Kevin L™> .
05:56:35 <Dave from B> there she is
05:56:41 <Kevin L™> Do we need a text sent?
05:56:43 <Rice> That the right one!
05:57:02 <Dave from B> I'm not able to send right now
05:57:02 <ynpvisitor999> there we go
05:57:13 <Kevin L™> I can do it
05:57:16 <ynpvisitor999> Dome ie static
05:57:36 <Dave from B> Text rec'd
05:57:47 <Kevin L™> Never mind!
05:57:51 <Rice> Text REcieved, Comence Drooling.
05:58:44 <ynpvisitor74> Thanks!
05:58:53 <ynpvisitor999> uhmm... looking at the YNM graph, I see some noise starting from 0634
05:59:25 <ynpvisitor999> and it seems awfully familiar with Steamboat noise... Any ideas?
06:00:04 <Dave from B> could be a snow plow in the area
06:00:13 <Kent> Indy looks like it has a mad on!
06:00:20 <Rice> YNM Graph ????
06:00:38 <ynpvisitor999> seismograph near Norris Museum
06:01:02 <Rice> Where does one find that feed?
06:01:27 <ynpvisitor999> http://quake.utah.edu/station/heli/YNM.png?1524837491410
06:01:38 <ynpvisitor999> though it's somewhere on this page too
06:02:10 <ynpvisitor999> this one is from the most recent Steamboat: https://www.isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/wrapper.php?file=YNM_SHZ_WY_01-20180419.png
06:02:11 <Rice> OK I know what you are talking about now, Thanks
06:03:00 <ynpvisitor999> would be nice if it were another Steamboat, though a snow plow is probably the most likely one
06:03:57 <ynpvisitor999> :bee::bee:
06:04:18 <ynpvisitor603> Choppy for anyone else?
06:04:27 <ynpvisitor999> not for me (yet)
06:05:35 <Kent> A genuine wonder of nature!
06:05:36 <ynpvisitor110> Choppy for me too.
06:07:09 <ynpvisitor999> Tantalus Creek gage doesn't show a spike, which means almost certainly no Steamboat
06:07:14 <Kevin L™> Very choppy
06:07:43 <ynpvisitor2> not here...very smoothe
06:08:17 <Dave from B> DG, I like the way you analyze data. Thanks for digging deeper.
06:08:18 <Kent> Mine smooth also but my delay could be buffering?
06:08:48 <ynpvisitor999> no problem, Dave
06:10:17 <ynpvisitor116> I was confused. GT has a BH entry, but the clock was still at 15 hours.
06:11:01 <Kevin L™> RTMP is more choppy but is live, HLS is smoother but with a 30s delay
06:12:23 <ynpvisitor116> Giant steam today?
06:12:45 <Dave from B> I think it is Grotto
06:13:17 <ynpvisitor999> I deem it a couple of days too early for Giant, considering the shortest Giant interval of the past 100 was 4½-ish days
06:13:24 <Kevin L™> refresh 116
06:14:57 <Dave from B> I'm trying to get ready for our sale today. In "typical" active Giant reactivations, how many eruptions does it take to get into a weekly eruption pattern?
06:15:16 <ynpvisitor116> It just took a bit for the time to update.
06:15:34 <ynpvisitor116> A Giant Fish sale?
06:17:06 <Dave from B> nope...lots of little fish:)
06:17:44 <ynpvisitor999> Lion ini
06:19:55 <ynpvisitor999> Anemone
06:20:03 <ynpvisitor116> A guppy sale then?
06:20:16 <Dave from B> not that little
06:20:49 <ynpvisitor116> Too early for Smelt
06:21:50 <ynpvisitor999> Based on data in GOSA's Giant text file, it took 10 Giant's to start the 1996-2002 active period
06:21:51 <Dave from B> We have lots of bait smelt for sale for walleye fisherman
06:22:31 <Dave from B> Thanks a bunch, DG. Those 10 eruptions were spaced over how long a time period?
06:22:52 <ynpvisitor603> Solitary steam
06:22:58 <ynpvisitor999> to be calculated, need to time OF as good as I can
06:28:32 <ynpvisitor999> the first eruption of the 1996-2002 active period began @ 1743 on July 31, 1996, after 310 days of no recorded eruption
06:30:23 <ynpvisitor999> the tenth eruption began @ 1107 on February 24, 1997, 17 days and 18 hours since the last observed eruption.
06:31:06 <ynpvisitor999> time span is approximaltely 8 months
06:32:31 <Dave from B> We have had presumably 6 eruptions since October, a span of 6.5 months
06:32:46 <ynpvisitor999> side note here is that there were eruptions with intervals of 2 weeks or less right after the 2nd eruption took place, then increased to ~45 days and then decreased to ~16 days
06:33:32 <ynpvisitor999> after the tenth eruption a stable interval of about two weeks or less between eruptions was established
06:34:33 <ynpvisitor999> eventually those intervals were as short as just over 3 days
06:34:37 <Dave from B> I sure hope it is a Giant summer. It's been 11 years since I had a Giant shower
06:35:08 <ynpvisitor603> Giant has never been active since we've been fortunate enough to go to the park :(
06:35:29 <Jimbo Hafnium> I'll keep conserving my vacation days
06:35:34 <ynpvisitor603> Definitely cautiously optimistic
06:35:44 <Dave from B> You think Grand puts out a lot of water during an eruption
06:36:08 <Dave from B> 603, how many days do you have in the park this year?
06:36:37 <ynpvisitor603> 10 days in May/June and then hopefully 14 in Aug/Sept
06:36:53 <Dave from B> nice!
06:37:02 <ynpvisitor603> With a tiny chance of a couple days in July but that's a long shot
06:37:44 <ynpvisitor116> The park in July and August, you are brave or...
06:37:58 <ynpvisitor603> Have a family thing in Seattle in July so might fly in to SEA and out BZN, but that's a big stretch goal
06:37:59 <ynpvisitor999> The next active period, from 2005-2008, took 6 recorded eruptions to start
06:38:33 <ynpvisitor999> and roughly three months
06:38:45 <ynpvisitor999> over the course of three months*
06:39:52 <Dave from B> Giant vs Steamboat: The battle of 2018
06:40:01 <ynpvisitor603> Late August into September has been fine, drops off once everyone has to go back to school
06:40:44 <ynpvisitor999> there seemed to be a small active period in 2004, with 7 recorded eruptions over the course of 7 months
06:41:03 <Dave from B> Even durting July and August you can avoid crowds on the roads if you travel early and late
06:41:21 <ynpvisitor603> Yeah we're usually up and out the door by 5-5:30am
06:41:43 <ynpvisitor603> Basically sunup to sundown, the joke I have is I can sleep at work ;)
06:41:45 <ynpvisitor999> Daisy
06:42:43 <ynpvisitor999> Seems Micah missed a hot period by only minutes
06:49:44 <ynpvisitor603> I'm hoping Echinus has some life to it this year
06:50:23 <ynpvisitor603> Looks like he got a hot period now
06:57:02 <Jimbo Hafnium> So the Giant recovery is in progress then
06:59:00 <ynpvisitor44> stay tuned, excitement is just around the corner!
07:00:01 <ynpvisitor116> Well it is all a mystery to me, have not seen it, and can not see it. Just needs to wait till the 23rd or 24th of May.
07:00:34 <Dave from B> Time to get my bike tuned up
07:00:58 <ynpvisitor116> Well, enjoy the rest of the day
07:02:56 <ynpvisitor999> I think we can expect Turban times soon
07:05:21 <Dave from B> It will be tough for Micah to leave Giant at this time
07:05:50 <Dave from B> cb is at OF?
07:06:43 <ynpvisitor44> :grand:
07:07:21 <ynpvisitor44> :grand:
07:07:40 <Forestbewithyou> Do you guys see the steam close to where giant is
07:07:50 <ynpvisitor999> that's Grand
07:08:15 <Forestbewithyou> Oh really
07:08:16 <ynpvisitor603> Dave from B, yup
07:08:30 <Forestbewithyou> I thought grand was over more
07:08:59 <ynpvisitor44> Grand is the tall plume
07:10:03 <ynpvisitor999> if you mean that tall plume, Forest, that's Grand. If you mean the smaller, gray-ish one, that could be from the Grotto or Giant group
07:10:23 <Forestbewithyou> I ment the one next to it
07:10:31 <Dave from B> decent line at Gardiner
07:10:40 <Forestbewithyou> Thanks
07:11:20 <ynpvisitor603> Anyone know how to fix "You are trying to speak to a unknown (or not connected) user" when trying to PM someone who's active ;)
07:11:22 <ynpvisitor999> this image may help you: http://donsplace.orgfree.com/ofcc2/images/UGBpan02as_labeled.jpg
07:12:16 <Forestbewithyou> I looked at that after you guys said it was grand
07:12:39 <ynpvisitor999> oh, didn't know that :)
07:12:44 <Forestbewithyou> Because I was thinking that I was looking at something different than grand
07:13:04 <ynpvisitor999> right
07:13:57 <Dave from B> 603, I would recommend closing and opening the page or ask the person to pm you.
07:13:59 <Forestbewithyou> I rember when I went to Yellowstone we were running from daisy to old Faithful in the morning and I look over and I saw grand and I said to the person I was next to hey what is that
07:14:32 <Forestbewithyou> Then they started taking pictures while runnig
07:15:19 <Jimbo Hafnium> hmm
07:15:28 <Jimbo Hafnium> 9 minutes
07:15:55 <ynpvisitor999> 2nd is quite unlikely now
07:16:20 <Jimbo Hafnium> Hard to tell anyway
07:16:30 <ynpvisitor999> indeed
07:17:04 <ynpvisitor999> cb is there, so he should be able to tell how many bursts there were
07:17:45 <Forestbewithyou> So on the emojis what is the one in between grand and the thumbs up like what geyser is it for
07:17:58 <ynpvisitor41> Dave from B, PM me ;)
07:18:05 <ynpvisitor999> that's Beehive's Indicator
07:18:24 <ynpvisitor999> often abbreviated to BHI or Indy
07:18:58 <Forestbewithyou> Thanks
07:19:40 <ynpvisitor999> G1Q
07:20:07 <ynpvisitor999> apparently had a duration of 1 second
07:21:37 <Forestbewithyou> Does the G1 mean 1 Burst
07:21:53 <ynpvisitor999> Grand start, 1 burst, Vent and Turban quit
07:22:10 <Forestbewithyou> Ok got it thanks learning new things everyday
07:22:25 <ynpvisitor999> T1C would mean Turban start, 1 burst, Vent and Turban continued
07:23:09 <ynpvisitor41> https://geysertimes.org/glossary.php
07:23:34 <Forestbewithyou> Ok cool well I have to go so thanks for the knowledge I will be back later hopefully
07:27:18 <ynpvisitor44> :lion:
07:28:19 <ynpvisitor44> Lion 0927
07:31:28 <Art> Just heard that there may have been Steamboat 0810ns
07:31:53 <Art> ynpvisitor999, That seismo data may have been right
07:32:20 <ynpvisitor44> 999 thought he saw it on the seismo
07:32:38 <ynpvisitor999> Tantalus Creek shows the beginning of a spike now: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/mt/nwis/uv?site_no=06036940
07:33:18 <Art> That would be 7 day interval
07:36:04 <ynpvisitor999> I hope this is the beginning of a Steamboat active period :)
07:36:37 <ynpvisitor114> Giant, Steamboat, could be the summer of the big geysers! Too bad back basin is still closed.
07:38:02 <ynpvisitor999> Tantalus Creek gage just uploaded its data again. Spike is now relatively visible on it: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/mt/nwis/uv/?ts_id=82337&format=img_default&site_no=06036940&period=7
07:38:06 <Art> Looks like 1982-1984 all over again :)
07:38:43 <Art> Sorry 1982 and 1983 seem to have similar analogs
07:40:08 <ynpvisitor999> just played a bit with the parameters to get hours for the gage. It shows a spike forming just past 0800: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/mt/nwis/uv?cb_00010=on&cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=06036940&period=&begin_date=2018-04-27&end_date=2018-04-27
07:40:31 <Art> FYI, The source of the report is extremely credible
07:41:08 <ynpvisitor44> MAB?
07:41:15 <Art> OK on GeyserTimes now
07:41:17 <Art> Rocco
07:41:26 <ynpvisitor44> Great
07:42:02 <Art> https://geysertimes.org/eruption.php?id=1034192
07:42:03 <ynpvisitor999> I wonder how tall it got
07:42:36 <ynpvisitor56> Rocco got video of the water phase
07:42:55 <ynpvisitor999> that's really nice
07:42:58 <Art> YES!!!!
07:46:39 <Jimbo Hafnium> I'd sure like to see that video - Rocco will probably put it on Geyser Gazers on FB, right?
07:47:07 <ynpvisitor94> woooowwww
07:47:45 <ynpvisitor114> Rocco’s in the park now. He does not post from the park. He could not go to back basin, video must be from road
07:48:08 <Jimbo Hafnium> I can wait
07:48:54 <ynpvisitor94> I would not be following closure signs if Steamboat were erupting
07:49:00 <Jimbo Hafnium> I had sort of despaired that the "big" geysers had been quiet lately - that may be changing
07:49:34 <ynpvisitor999> maybe they have something to celebrate this year
07:50:02 <ynpvisitor999> maybe a possible peace treaty between the Koreas
07:50:11 <ynpvisitor94> it's Trump making Great Geysers Great Again
07:51:10 <ynpvisitor114> That is NOT what is happening 94
07:51:56 <ynpvisitor114> Trump would sell the park if he could
07:51:59 <ynpvisitor94> I'm sure he'll mention how tremendous it is in his next "speech"
07:52:15 <ynpvisitor999> Riverside
07:52:36 <ynpvisitor114> Thankfully Yellowstone is far from his feeble thoughts
07:54:41 <ynpvisitor94> "There's these geezers-you know-Old Faithful in Jellystone. A big one. The biggest ever is doing tremendous things right now. Never before seen. It's really remarkable. Water just -sschhhhhhhh- you know. Huge."
07:55:55 <ynpvisitor999> Dome?
08:02:25 <ynpvisitor999> nice static
08:04:27 <ynpvisitor603> Well 30 more days for us, really excited for the possibilities this year. Hope everyone has great luck whenever they are in the park :)
08:07:35 <ynpvisitor603> https://yellowstonenaturalist.com/2018/04/watching-steamboat-geyser/
08:08:09 <ynpvisitor603> Janet Jones just posted "Watching Steamboat Geyser" to her site
08:10:27 <ynpvisitor999> Time to update it with the eruption that occured today
08:12:12 <Dave from B> So, those of us yeaterday who picked Giant before next steamboat...we lose!
08:12:26 <ynpvisitor999> indeed
08:13:26 <ynpvisitor30> Where is the video of the water phase they said on the note
08:13:39 <ynpvisitor30> Is it public or no
08:13:40 <ynpvisitor999> probably to be uploaded
08:13:51 <ynpvisitor30> Ok
08:14:04 <ynpvisitor30> I hope it is going into an active phase
08:16:15 <ynpvisitor94> if everyone left for Steamboat, Giant can erupt ;)
08:17:52 <ynpvisitor999> how about Giantess?
08:18:24 <ynpvisitor603> Now were just getting greedy
08:18:40 <Betty> what what what???
08:18:54 <ynpvisitor94> sure, Giantess can go too
08:19:01 <Betty> really? Steamboat again?
08:19:04 <ynpvisitor603> Steamboat 0810ns
08:19:14 <Betty> YAY
08:19:37 <ynpvisitor999> GHP 1013
08:20:02 <Betty> WHAT WHAT WHAT??????
08:20:15 <ynpvisitor999> no, didn't result in an eruption
08:20:18 <Betty> What´s happening here :-D
08:21:05 <Betty> fun. I hope the Park does not blow up until I was there ;-)
08:21:25 <ynpvisitor999> according to the entry, Feather was strong and Mastiff boiling to 1-2 feet, with Bijou being on the entire time. Thereafter it went to a powerful steam phase
08:22:21 <ynpvisitor94> exciting
08:23:06 <Betty> good day. Even ABBA will publish 2 new songs :-)
08:23:33 <ynpvisitor94> ABBA???? another sign that it's 1982 all over again
08:23:41 <ynpvisitor603> lol
08:24:25 <Betty> hahaha
08:25:13 <ynpvisitor999> time for Echinus to get going again, if it's 1982 all over again then
08:27:29 <ynpvisitor44> I hope they are all active for christmas (Aug 25) that is when I'll be there :)
08:30:09 <ynpvisitor999> let's see if Lion can continue its series
08:30:13 <Kevin L™> No Aurum yet?
08:30:27 <Betty> you mean ABBA playing at an eruption of Steamboat?
08:30:39 <ynpvisitor999> as far as I know, no Aurum yet, Kevin
08:30:46 <Betty> hi Kevin
08:31:08 <Betty> getting your Steamboat suit ready?
08:37:37 <ynpvisitor> Well Steamboat is scheduled for May 22 or 23.
08:37:58 <Eric> Morning
08:38:06 <ynpvisitor999> Morning Eric
08:38:20 <Eric> Hi DG
08:38:43 <Betty> morning Eric
08:38:54 <Eric> Wish we had norris logger data back :-(
08:38:56 <Eric> Hi Betty
08:39:56 <ynpvisitor999> I've asked the YVO (via their USGS Volcanoes twitter) last week and got as reply that they'll look into it
08:40:08 <Betty> Happy Koningsdag, DG
08:40:16 <ynpvisitor999> thanks Betty
08:41:08 <Eric> Thanks DG
08:41:54 <ynpvisitor999> maybe that's the reason why the graphs are currently down completely, rather than showing an empty graph
08:42:02 <Forestbewithyou> why do you think we are getting all of these big geysers
08:42:44 <ynpvisitor999> activity shifts, most likely
08:43:20 <Eric> Pretty complex system to guess why...
08:43:36 <Eric> water tables, lava movement, earthquakes, ......
08:43:39 <ynpvisitor999> or increase in activity, which is most likely the case with Giant, as it has a long history of having active and inactive periods
08:43:40 <ynpvisitor94> hard to say, this activity isn't unusual or unprecedented when looking at decade-long cycles that may happen
08:43:47 <ynpvisitor58> YNPvisitor999 - USGS Volcanoes here. We did note an eruption of Steamboat on April 19.
08:43:55 <Kevin L™> Teasing us. It will all quit in 3 weeks
08:43:57 <ynpvisitor94> it feels unusual when it only happens a few times in a lifetime though!
08:44:04 <ynpvisitor999> Thanks, USGS :)
08:44:18 <ynpvisitor58> Our Norris temperature loggers are down...which is a HUGE bummer right now.
08:44:35 <Eric> Yep....you can get to norris now :-D
08:45:03 <Eric> Morning Kevin
08:45:07 <ynpvisitor999> Castle
08:45:09 <Eric> castle
08:45:19 <Forestbewithyou> I hope it will erupt on 26 of May as that is my birthday
08:45:28 <Eric> I agree Forest
08:45:46 <Eric> That is my first full day in the park :-D
08:45:53 <Kevin L™> Morning Eric
08:45:59 <ynpvisitor44> :castle:
08:45:59 <ynpvisitor90> People not allowed in back basin still
08:46:15 <ynpvisitor94> there will be A LOT of people happy with a May 26 eruption on Memorial Day Weekend
08:47:12 <ynpvisitor999> nice spikes for Castle
08:48:28 <ynpvisitor> All this activity is the precursor to the big one. I do not think you have enough time to order your mega volcano shelter.
08:49:00 <ynpvisitor999> I think I'll be alright in the Netherlands :)
08:49:10 <ynpvisitor999> if that happens, of course
08:49:43 <Forestbewithyou> I think I am going to be fine I am on the other side of the USA
08:50:12 <ynpvisitor> You can get one of these. https://www.feldfire.com/New-Generation-Forest-Fire-Protection-Shelter_p_624.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI37nFy_Ta2gIVk_hkCh3rnA42EAkYBCABEgJF__D_BwE
08:50:51 <Forestbewithyou> LOL
08:51:07 <ynpvisitor> Well if something as big as the original caldera ever blew again, you would not be safe anyplace.
08:51:22 <USGS Volcanoes> When the geysers dry out - that's when to worry about magma getting closer to the surface.
08:52:02 <Forestbewithyou> Fair
08:52:20 <ynpvisitor> Wow, it is Friday, and I saw a worker?
08:53:11 <Eric> looks like castle is going to be a major
08:53:45 <Forestbewithyou> I think they should put a webcam down there so people who aren't there can witness it
08:54:22 <ynpvisitor999> I'm not entirely convinced just yet, Eric. The eruption has been going for about 9 minutes now - anything can happen, really
08:54:24 <Eric> Hey, I have been lobbying for an Inn Roof top cam, already has power and internet.
08:54:38 <Eric> You could see much better down basin from the roof of the Inn
08:54:50 <ynpvisitor> Power in Winter?
08:55:19 <Eric> They already have to keep some systems on
08:55:37 <Eric> I assume
08:55:59 <Eric> Don't want fire control pipes freezing
08:56:19 <ynpvisitor999> I wonder if it's feasible to set up a static over at Norris
08:56:39 <Eric> Static at Norris would be awesome...store has power and internet
08:57:33 <Kevin L™> Inn has power in the Winter.
08:58:04 <Forestbewithyou> I can't wait for the video of steamboat I have always wanted to see it in waterphase
08:58:43 <ynpvisitor> Dang, they are replacing the deck and railing on the observation deck of the lodge
09:00:34 <Forestbewithyou> So is it illegal to take water from a geyser out of the park if say steamboat erupted and you caught water in a bottle
09:01:57 <ynpvisitor999> I don't think it's illegal to set up a bucket or bottle to catch water from an erupting geyser
09:02:20 <Eric> I think you would get strange looks :-P
09:02:53 <ynpvisitor999> as long as you (and your contraption) stay on the boardwalk and don't hinder people
09:03:15 <ynpvisitor> Is anyone at the lodge answering phones yet? Or do I need to wait till it opens on the 4th?
09:03:17 <ynpvisitor105> Ok I got disconnected
09:03:26 <ynpvisitor105> But I am back
09:04:36 <Eric> ohhh, I didn't see that Steamboat had another eruption this morning!
09:05:18 <Eric> 7 day interval!
09:06:00 <ynpvisitor603> Crazy right
09:06:02 <Kevin L™> :)
09:06:12 <ynpvisitor603> So looks like something similar happened in the early 80's
09:06:23 <Kevin L™> You think parking was bad there last year.....
09:06:43 <ynpvisitor999> you can kinda see the steam phase on the YNM graph, though it doesn't match the time for when the ns was called and water data from Tantalus Creek
09:06:51 <ynpvisitor603> MA is going to have some company ;)
09:07:02 <Eric> I don't mind getting to Norris early....
09:07:18 <ynpvisitor999> How long does it actually take for Steamboat's water to reach Tantalus Creek gage?
09:07:32 <Eric> But bouncing back between Norris and UGB for Giant/Steamboat duals will be tough ;-P
09:07:33 <ynpvisitor603> I hope this is the type of problem we have this summer
09:07:43 <ynpvisitor603> Steamboat or Giant, what to do, what to do...
09:07:49 <Eric> exactly!
09:08:24 <ynpvisitor999> mix in a Giantess, Morning or Excelsior too, and it will be overloaded gazers
09:08:47 <ynpvisitor> Kevin would be happily setting at Aurum all alone.
09:11:03 <Betty> It would be great to have a cam on Inn rooftop, even if they would run it only durung summer times. Better than nothing :-)
09:11:03 <Eric> My rental car has unlimited miles on it :-P
09:11:13 <Betty> during
09:12:26 <Betty> mine too :-)
09:12:56 <ynpvisitor603> USGS Volcanoes, Do you have a copy of the Steamboat temp chart from the last eruption on April 19th?
09:13:10 <Kevin L™> I would be happier if they gave me a pullout and a bench.
09:13:17 <Kevin L™> Faisy
09:13:21 <ynpvisitor999> Daisy
09:13:37 <Betty> and this year Thomas will drive it too, so one can go to Steamboat and one to Giant, and then we will change Positions the following day :-)
09:13:52 <ynpvisitor603> USGS Volcanoes, Sorry Norris seismograph
09:14:27 <ynpvisitor603> Norris Seismograph from April 19th
09:15:00 <USGS Volcanoes> Temp looks to be about 60C
09:15:19 <USGS Volcanoes> We have norris seismic also.
09:15:37 <Kevin L™> Are you coming again this year Betty?
09:15:58 <USGS Volcanoes> We will be releasing something soon...trying to gather data about this morning's events.
09:16:13 <ynpvisitor999> sounds interesting
09:16:18 <USGS Volcanoes> Info may come out from NPS vs. USGS, but someone will put something out.
09:19:28 <Kevin L™> My Kelsteinhaus cam is gone Betty. :(
09:20:40 <Eric> So is that Steamboat showing on the Norris Museum seismo? http://quake.utah.edu/station/heli/YNM.png?1524849616048
09:21:17 <USGS Volcanoes> We're checking in with University of Utah on that.
09:21:20 <Eric> Starting about 0640
09:21:42 <ynpvisitor999> that's noise starting at 0634, while Steamboat was reported to be ns @ 0810
09:22:13 <ynpvisitor999> either the seismo predicts the future or the ns time is wrong
09:22:22 <Eric> Right...but it could be the build up before the eruption
09:22:37 <ynpvisitor603> Or the Daylight savings time isn't right
09:22:54 <ynpvisitor603> So it's really 0740
09:24:05 <ynpvisitor90> Rocco saw water above the trees, so that would be a long eruption if it started before 7
09:24:26 <Eric> Yes, I think it's probably a little early to be the eruption...but interesting data point.
09:24:56 <ynpvisitor90> I wonder if it is not set to DST
09:25:09 <ynpvisitor50> USGS and YVO graphs are on standard time.
09:25:18 <ynpvisitor999> Water data from Tantalus Creek, if I'm reading it right, would suggest the eruption started before 0800: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/mt/nwis/uv?cb_00010=on&cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=06036940&period=&begin_date=2018-04-27&end_date=2018-04-27
09:25:25 <ynpvisitor90> Always?
09:25:43 <ynpvisitor50> Yes. So there is an hour accounted for right there.
09:25:52 <ynpvisitor999> though I have no idea how long it takes for the water to reach the gage
09:26:45 <ynpvisitor83> Norris seismo is on Mountain Daylight Time (there is also a UTC time scale on the right axis)
09:27:08 <ynpvisitor83> As for time it takes water to reach Tantalus gauge, it's on the order of minutes.
09:27:57 <Eric> So looking at that graph, water started climbing around 0700 MDT?
09:28:38 <Kevin L™> Pretty nice that Rocco got to see it.
09:28:48 <ynpvisitor999> 0730-ish is my guess, Eric
09:31:25 <Betty> Yes, Kevin, we will be in the Park from Sep.19-28
09:32:22 <Kevin L™> That is a good (but chilly) time.
09:32:33 <Kevin L™> Love the elk bugling.
09:32:35 <Betty> I know
09:32:53 <Betty> Steam at Aurum
09:33:03 <Betty> look for it
09:33:05 <Kevin L™> Crowds are smaller too.
09:33:30 <Kevin L™> Are you going to try Zion again?
09:39:33 <ynpvisitor44> Dome
09:42:37 <USGS Volcanoes> Hey. Anyone have contact info for Rocco?
09:44:28 <ynpvisitor33> he works at Old Faithful Inn
09:44:39 <ynpvisitor33> today is their move in date
09:46:17 <ynpvisitor44> short
09:50:43 <Ryan> That was a very excited call from Micah
09:51:02 <Ryan> Ten minutes after he called about his hot period.
09:52:39 <Kevin L™> Looking forward to video of water phase.
09:53:43 <ynpvisitor603> I really hope that 82-84 are analog years, that would be great for folks to have an actual shot at seeing Steamboat
09:54:14 <Ryan> That would have people making hard decisions... Giant, Steamboat, Giant, Steamboat...
09:54:21 <Ryan> .....Steamboat. :)
09:58:57 <Betty> Kevin, we stay one night in Springdale and try to go in in the morning. In the evening we will head to Vegas again
09:59:14 <Betty> hi Ryan
09:59:50 <Betty> we want to go to Lehman Cave in Great Basin NTL park
10:00:16 <Eric> Hey Ryan, any word from Rocco? USGS/NPS is looking to use his video/images for a news release
10:00:34 <Eric> I believe....
10:01:01 <Betty> snow on BW is almost gone
10:06:17 <ynpvisitor603> USGS Volcanoes, I sent you a Private message when you get a second
10:07:24 <Eric> Yes, it might be completely gone by end of day Betty
10:07:46 <Eric> I thought you were the Wapiti wolves 603 :-)
10:08:08 <Rice> Look at the school group
10:08:35 <ynpvisitor603> Nope, I saw that too. Pretty awesome username but not me ;0
10:08:43 <sparekitty> how amazing to go to OF at SCHOOL!
10:09:11 <ynpvisitor33> they should be walking around
10:09:13 <USGS Volcanoes> Thanks...
10:10:53 <USGS Volcanoes> Hey 603 - can you send an email to yvowebteam@usgs.gov?
10:11:19 <ynpvisitor603> Sure
10:25:06 <Eric> Interesting difference between the water output of the two eruptions: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/graph?agency_cd=USGS&site_no=06036940&parm_cd=00065&period=8#.WuNqp7a-M2Q.twitter
10:26:12 <ynpvisitor999> maybe this is a more powerful eruption than the one on the 19th
10:26:47 <ynpvisitor999> what is the two-peaked spike in the middle?
10:26:50 <ynpvisitor999> snowmelt?
10:27:08 <Eric> That is the previous eruption date
10:27:29 <Eric> ohh, woops...no must have been that rain/snow we had
10:27:48 <ynpvisitor999> ah, right
10:34:53 <Kevin L™> Don't stay at the Cliffrose Betty
10:37:17 <Kevin L™> I can give you a few spots on US 93 between Ely and Vegas too Betty.
10:40:04 <Eric> OF
10:43:24 <Betty> where is the Cliffrose?
10:45:00 <Kevin L™> Springdale
10:47:16 <ynpvisitor47> Good to see people. I felt like a whole lot of hot water was going to waste this morning.
10:47:41 <Dave from B> It's the blue brigade!
10:48:06 <Kevin L™> Glad I am not in charge of that!
10:48:15 <Betty> I stay at La Qunta Inn at Springdale
10:48:16 <Dave from B> hokey pokey!
10:48:32 <Betty> Quinta*
10:48:42 <Kevin L™> Sounds good.
10:48:48 <ynpvisitor603> This is hilarious
10:49:01 <Kevin L™> Wish we had sound
10:49:06 <ynpvisitor603> I've got music on in the room and it's going perfectly to them
10:49:23 <Kevin L™> Wish I had that much energy
10:49:27 <Betty> :-) fun
10:49:45 <ynpvisitor47> It's a shame we can't send them a video.
10:49:55 <Betty> you have in your head Kevin
10:50:07 <Kevin L™> I wondeer if they know they are on video?
10:50:57 <Eric> looked like they were be recorded by about 20 video cameras :-P
10:52:05 <Kevin L™> When we had the leash on my Granddaughter all the Asians wanted video of it.
10:52:46 <ynpvisitor44> It would be nice to beable to let them know they were being watched by many people around the world. :)
10:56:43 <ynpvisitor44> someone should call the VEC and ask them to let them know they can watch themselves on the GOSA capture.
10:58:00 <sparekitty> my daughter is a teacher in montana and when she takes her kids here, she makes sure the parents know they can try to see their kids on the webcam
11:02:56 <USGS Volcanoes> https://www.facebook.com/USGSVolcanoes/photos/a.984262971602264.1073741827.984239038271324/2011828628845688/?type=3&theater
11:03:10 <USGS Volcanoes> info about recent steamboat eruptions on our social media channels.
11:03:41 <ynpvisitor44> another Giant hot period 1242
11:04:08 <ynpvisitor33> Cancellation fees are going up to $25 on May 1, per occurrence with Xanterra lodging.
11:05:02 <Will B> always free with it being a "family emergency"
11:05:03 <Kevin L™> Can you still cancel 30+ days with no fee?
11:05:10 <Betty> thanks for cleaning guy
11:05:28 <Betty> hey Will :-)
11:05:58 <ynpvisitor33> so Steamboat was 0630
11:06:13 <Will B> not this one
11:06:24 <ynpvisitor83> Yes, both seismic and water gauge data indicate an eruption starting at 6:30
11:06:42 <ynpvisitor33> Guests will need to cancel reservations at least 7 days prior to arrival in order receive a refund of their deposit. The change/cancel fee will increase to $25.00. This fee is charged for each change made to a reservation within 30 days of arrival.
11:06:46 <Will B> this one today was at 0810ns
11:06:55 <ynpvisitor33> that is from a FB post about the upcoming reservations
11:07:10 <ynpvisitor33> Will, that has been changed with data
11:07:24 <ynpvisitor33> look at the post
11:07:53 <USGS Volcanoes> Data indicates 6:30 for a start time. The Tantalus Weir spike occurred before 8, and it takes about 30-45 mins for water to get there from Steamboat.
11:07:54 <Will B> well you can tell them it is a family emergency if you need to cancel and they wont ask questions and cancel it no charge
11:08:18 <ynpvisitor33> That is good to know Will
11:08:24 <Will B> well the eruption today had a reliable eye witness that can affirm it was not going before 0800
11:08:38 <USGS Volcanoes> Would love to talk to him!
11:09:04 <Will B> Rocco saw 26min of water so he got it very near the start
11:09:20 <ynpvisitor83> Was it erupting when Rocco arrived on site?
11:09:23 <Will B> no
11:09:30 <Will B> hense the NS and not IE
11:09:56 <ynpvisitor83> Was cistern empty when Rocco arrived?
11:10:10 <Will B> back basin is closed
11:10:15 <Will B> he saw it from the road
11:10:17 <ynpvisitor81> he cannot legally answer that question
11:10:36 <ynpvisitor33> maybe it was paused
11:11:00 <Will B> steamboat pause????
11:11:06 <Will B> that doesnt happen
11:11:17 <ynpvisitor33> no idea, the data does not support what Rocco saw
11:11:20 <ynpvisitor81> and therefore will never happen :P
11:11:35 <Will B> Data can be incorrect
11:11:43 <DaveM> Rocco is a reliable observer. He knows what he saw and what to look for. It would be nice to talk to him directrly but I trust his observations
11:12:07 <USGS Volcanoes> I agree, it would be nice to talk to him directly.
11:12:19 <Will B> right now i would trust his observations. he saw 26min of water. and the longest water phase known is not that much longer
11:12:22 <ynpvisitor81> how calibrated is the time on the Tantalus gauge?
11:12:33 <ynpvisitor83> It's not off by hours
11:12:48 <ynpvisitor33> just seems odd the creek logger would be that far off
11:12:51 <ynpvisitor83> Same with seismic, which has GPS time to control it.
11:15:10 <USGS Volcanoes> So, Rocco says water phase started at 8:10 and lasted for 26 minutes?
11:15:56 <USGS Volcanoes> And he was near enough to see the start of the activity? If so, was there vigorous steam before water?
11:15:58 <Will B> Rocco unfortunately has told me he does not want to talk to the usgs people
11:16:12 <USGS Volcanoes> Maybe he'd talk to someone from the park?
11:16:20 <USGS Volcanoes> Or the University of Utah?
11:17:39 <USGS Volcanoes> It's very helpful to try to correlate data with eye witness accounts. Perhaps we are missing something in the data that could help with deciphering other events.
11:18:23 <Eric> Better yet....get a camera out there for 24/7 observation ;-)
11:18:31 <Eric> We will help observe!
11:18:37 <ynpvisitor999> Aurum!
11:18:38 <ynpvisitor999> .
11:18:38 <ynpvisitor999> .
11:18:39 <ynpvisitor999> .
11:18:40 <ynpvisitor603> Aurum
11:18:40 <USGS Volcanoes> Great point.
11:18:42 <ynpvisitor44> AURUM
11:18:42 <Betty> Aurum
11:18:43 <Eric> woot
11:18:43 <Betty> .
11:18:43 <Betty> .
11:18:44 <Betty> .
11:19:01 <Eric> Thanks camop
11:19:19 <Betty> good shot
11:19:29 <Eric> go away fluffy
11:19:34 <ynpvisitor33> that was fun
11:19:40 <Eric> Nice catch DG
11:19:53 <ynpvisitor999> thanks :)
11:19:53 <Betty> good on static too
11:20:03 <Eric> I would tie your Norris cam in here in a heartbeat :-D
11:22:33 <Will B> ok i just got off the phone with rocco. i updated the GT entry accordingly
11:22:36 <ynpvisitor33> looks like Rocco is at Giant
11:23:38 <ynpvisitor33> is there ever a mixed phase with steam and water?
11:24:22 <Will B> well it mixes for a short period of time as it transistions
11:24:23 <ynpvisitor81> USGS, is the seismic event known to occur at the start of Steamboat's eruption? does it line up with the YVO water logger time?
11:25:36 <Will B> i think this video will help people understand steamboat. It is a video from the start of the 1991 eruption. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yfXqjDMH6U
11:25:38 <USGS Volcanoes> Good question. Let me dig.
11:26:13 <ynpvisitor83> The times are consistent. There was a 90-minute lag between seismic onset and Tantalus weir discharge spike. That seems to be roughly about what we're seeing here. Give or take a few minutes.
11:26:38 <Kevin L™> :P It knows
11:31:39 <Eric> Great info here!
11:31:49 <ynpvisitor44> AURUM Replay https://youtu.be/weQ1ydhW9f8
11:33:43 <ynpvisitor47> Thank you
11:33:43 <Betty> Great video, Will! I did not know that there is one existing! Many thanks for the link
11:34:37 <Eric> Jaw on floor watching that video Betty!
11:35:01 <Betty> same here!
11:35:20 <Betty> do you see all the muddy water???
11:35:50 <ynpvisitor999> is that comic sans on the sign?
11:35:51 <Betty> What a lucky person
11:36:20 <Eric> at about 2 minutes in "Jesus Christ" was about all they could say!
11:36:20 <ynpvisitor999> it's an amazing video, especially the start
11:37:18 <Eric> Incredible Video...can't wait for a modern HD GO Pro or full frame camera to capture that raw power
11:37:45 <ynpvisitor999> I can't wait either
11:37:50 <Ryan> Rocco had an SLR. So he likely got *good* photos and videos.
11:38:03 <ynpvisitor81> 90 minutes for the water to get to the gauge seems like a long time but I guess it has to fill up the milky blue pool first so then the lag time would be affected by how full that pool is: https://www.google.com/maps/place/44%C2%B043'57.8%22N+110%C2%B042'47.7%22W/@44.7289419,-110.7153658,1806m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d44.732725!4d-110.7132528
11:38:05 <Eric> ohhh man...you are mean Ryan
11:38:34 <Eric> ugg, single quote link fail...sorry 81
11:38:38 <Ryan> Mean? lol
11:38:47 <Eric> Yes, I cannot see them :-(
11:39:01 <Eric> teasing us with hopes of HD video
11:39:02 <Ryan> Oh, I will pester him and Micah. We will get it aha
11:39:25 <Ryan> Hopes? He has the video - Micah has probably seen it by now.
11:39:27 <Kevin L™> Thanks 44. My cookies were good anyway
11:39:39 <Ryan> Hope isnt needed - it exists aha
11:39:42 <ynpvisitor603> I'm surprised Rocco isn't using a flip phone ;)
11:39:54 <ynpvisitor47> :)
11:40:25 <ynpvisitor603> Just like that visitor who had the video of Steamboat water phase a couple years ago? That was such a let down...
11:40:27 <Eric> faisy
11:41:11 <Ryan> 603, Rocco uses a Canon t3i (I helped him pick it out). If you know Rocco, we will see video, and soon. :)
11:41:43 <Ryan> I wont speculate too much on the quality - but knowing Rocco its likely to be the best video of Steamboat in existance.
11:41:45 <ynpvisitor603> I'm just joking, not serious
11:42:53 <Kevin L™> Hey, I still have a flip phone!
11:43:35 <ynpvisitor81> "wont speculate too much": "best video in existance"
11:43:42 <ynpvisitor81> lol
11:43:42 <Eric> haha
11:43:48 <Ryan> Welp, I guess I can let y'all down, per Micah: "He has no video."
11:44:06 <Ryan> 81, given only two videos exist...
11:44:22 <Ryan> At least, two videos the public can know of.
11:44:27 <Eric> I thought that might happen...
11:44:34 <Eric> hence me saying hopes
11:44:44 <Ryan> Micah did call me this morning, almost hysterical, saying Rocco had video.
11:45:01 <Eric> Yes, and I assume video he couldn't share
11:45:13 <ynpvisitor81> I'm sure Rocco does not appreciate all this attention so maybe best to lay low
11:45:42 <Eric> yerp
11:46:01 <Ryan> Sigh, Rocco wouldn't with-hold his own video of Steamboat.
11:46:51 <Ryan> 81, I think Rocco is happily at Giant right now. Do you follow him on the GG FB page in the winter? Yeah, he doesn't like attention. :)
11:47:02 <ynpvisitor47> Thanks Will. That is a great video link.
11:47:28 <Ryan> Guess we can update the GeyserTimes entry - it also says there was video. Rocco called Micah, Micah called me.
11:48:21 <Ryan> Actually: Micah called me excited about his first Giant Hot Period. Then called me again about missing a potential F&M.
11:48:54 <Ryan> He called me AGAIN twenty minutes later and just shouted "STEAMBOAT 810 NEAR START ROCCO HAS VIDEOS AND PHOTOS" in one long runon sentence...
11:49:01 <Ryan> Guess he is having a fun weekend there.
11:49:40 <Ryan> Per Rocco: "The pressure waves were buffeting me in the parking lot." I guess he parked on the road and walked in. I dont blame him.
11:50:38 <Will B> he parked in the lot
11:50:41 <Will B> it is open now
11:51:15 <Eric> ahh, nice
11:51:22 <Ryan> Oh, :)
11:51:39 <Eric> So seeing steamboat and giant erupt in the same day...anyone, ever?
11:51:43 <Ryan> That's his third steamboat water phase. Second from essentially the start.
11:52:05 <Eric> I will be happy for either on my trip
11:52:22 <Ryan> I think one of the Strassers pulled that off in the 1980s.
11:52:58 <Ryan> The question is: if Steamboat is entering a true active phase who will put in the time to sit there?
11:53:00 <Eric> Giant sounds like it's shaking and moving
11:53:27 <Eric> If it has 7 day cycles...count me in!
11:54:35 <Ryan> The 1982 season started the same way with Steamboat having a one month interval and then a week.
11:55:12 <ynpvisitor603> The question I have, will there be any way to tell or is it just gonna randomly erupt
11:55:15 <Eric> well, hopefully I planned a good year to book 2 different weeks at OF
11:55:21 <ynpvisitor603> If it keeps this up
11:55:44 <Eric> I am going to add tantulus creek graph here too
11:56:09 <ynpvisitor603> I know there's been notes on Steamboat about concerted minors and other such observations by Polly
11:56:22 <Ryan> The 1982 season had a predictable pattern but who knows if that is what will happen this time.
11:57:04 <Ryan> That's what I am getting at: who is putting in the ground work for it? If it is doing a 1982 style thing I will likely spend most of my June week at Norris.
11:57:58 <Eric> So the discharge is down to normal, but the temperature is still way hot...what up?
11:59:38 <ynpvisitor999> hmm... Seeing the last 100 Steamboat intervals... there seems to be a some predictability. There was an active phase from pre-1964-1968, then almost 20 years of rare eruptions, then the 1982-1984 active period, then once again 20 years of every now and again a major, a semi-active phase from 2002-2003, followed by about 15 years of low activity
12:00:13 <Eric> What were the intervals in 1982-84?
12:01:21 <ynpvisitor999> about a week to more than 100 days. That more than 100 days is probably related to the disturbance
12:01:22 <ynpvisitor27> where is steamboat interval info?
12:01:47 <ynpvisitor999> https://geysertimes.org/geyser.php?id=Steamboat
12:02:52 <Ryan> 999, in 82-84 there was a pattern to its minor behavior which could be followed to get a good idea of how likely a major eruption was in the next three days or so. That's the kind of pattern that may or may not develop.
12:02:57 <ynpvisitor27> 82-84 info: http://www.gosa.org/oldsite/steamboat.htm
12:06:54 <Ryan> 27, wish we had online access to the full article.
12:12:13 <Dave from B> anyone having page issues?
12:12:46 <ynpvisitor47> Working for me
12:13:27 <Dave from B> Thanks
12:14:05 <Dave from B> Kevin, can you pm me please?
12:20:23 <ynpvisitor44> another short
12:20:58 <Kevin L™> Must be hot. Even OF has its shorts on.
12:24:05 <Will B> booo
12:24:54 <Ryan> haha
12:25:56 <Craig> hey all
12:26:27 <Kevin L™> Hi
12:26:52 <Craig> Kevin when did you get trademarked?
12:27:17 <Kevin L™> Middle of last year. Too many Kevins around!
12:27:26 <Craig> lol
12:28:41 <Kevin L™> One time when I was at the park we had a group of 8 of us, 4 were named Kevin, 3 Karens and I forget the other one.
12:29:20 <Craig> Must be a common name among gazers
12:29:40 <Kevin L™> It was very confusing.
12:29:58 <Craig> I bet!
12:30:22 <Betty> hi Craig
12:30:40 <Craig> hi!
12:32:18 <Ryan> BTW: Happy end of Korean War day...
12:32:34 <Kevin L™> Looking at the park forcast for monday and it is 3-5 inches of snow. We are pushing 100° here today. Hard to think snow!
12:32:55 <Kevin L™> That is amazing Ryan. My Dad is a vet of that war.
12:34:09 <Craig> Looks like i'll be in the park in mid june
12:34:11 <Ryan> :)
12:44:20 <ynpvisitor27> online access to that full article would be good.
12:44:39 <Craig> Ooh we got new emoticons to use
12:45:03 <Kevin L™> Lots of new stuff!
12:45:21 <Craig> Absolutely :grand:
12:47:00 <Kevin L™> We may need new ones for Giant and Steamboat.
12:54:09 <Craig> :sun:
12:55:07 <Kevin L™> Still waiting on the one for Aurum
12:55:42 <ynpvisitor39> 🚢💨 steamboat
12:56:14 <Craig> I don't see those on mine!
12:56:41 <Betty> it´s from the iPhone
12:57:57 <ynpvisitor39> ☄️ Aurum
12:58:00 <ynpvisitor44> how many turbans = grand?
12:58:11 <ynpvisitor39> Oops
12:58:24 <ynpvisitor39> 💥
12:58:49 <Craig> Technically as many as it wants 44
12:59:05 <ynpvisitor44> ok
12:59:31 <Betty> Lion
12:59:48 <Craig> Well it tired
12:59:49 <Betty> water looked out of the cone
12:59:50 <Craig> *tried
12:59:57 <Craig> Minor?
13:00:11 <Betty> series is over
13:00:26 <Betty> 5 1/2 h
13:00:37 <Craig> Last series eruption was at 9
13:00:54 <Betty> but you saw it too?
13:00:59 <Craig> I did
13:01:05 <Betty> good
13:01:09 <Craig> Definitely splashed
13:01:39 <Kevin L™> It was just peeking.
13:01:45 <Craig> :lion:
13:04:34 <Betty> LC
13:05:45 <Betty> water level is high in :lion:
13:09:51 <ynpvisitor47> Snow next week in the UGB :(
13:10:27 <ynpvisitor44> :thumbsdown:
13:11:28 <Kevin L™> :grand:
13:11:37 <Betty> yay
13:12:19 <ynpvisitor44> darn OF window
13:12:51 <Eric> No Giant yet?
13:13:16 <Ryan> Grand :P
13:13:32 <Eric> I like Grand
13:13:53 <Betty> you like every geyser
13:14:09 <Eric> It's true!
13:14:26 <Eric> water shooting from holes in the ground is pretty awesome!
13:14:33 <Betty> yup
13:14:51 <Kevin L™> I see that in my backyard everyday!
13:15:12 <Eric> If your back yard looks like Grand...I will fly down to see it!
13:15:43 <Eric> or better yet....make it like steamboat :-P
13:15:51 <Kevin L™> More like Pink Cone.
13:16:01 <Eric> I was thinking whirlygig
13:16:04 <Betty> fun too
13:16:40 <Kevin L™> I have been trying to get my brother to write some software for a Raspberry Pi to simulate a geyser.
13:17:17 <Kevin L™> A few pumps and it could do overflow, preplay and an eruption.
13:17:55 <Eric> It's true...I actually have a relay switch and pump that would work with the pi :-D
13:18:15 <ynpvisitor47> It would be fun if the Bellagio would have "Geyser Day" in the pool out front.
13:18:33 <Eric> Was going to built a solar water heater that was automated for my costco above ground pool...but ended up returning the pool.
13:18:38 <Betty> the screen of my iPhone shows Grand in full eruption :-)
13:18:58 <Kevin L™> My brother does programmable controllers for Opto22® so that would be right up his line.
13:19:09 <Eric> Larry from Denver knows all about water pumps and making them fountain...ask him about his projects!
13:19:51 <Kevin L™> What would really be fun is to make one that operates on heat and steam.
13:20:07 <Eric> 8m
13:20:15 <Eric> or 9 now I guess
13:20:51 <Jimbo Hafnium> Until next time, I leave with the question - is there a video or not? >(
13:21:07 <Kevin L™> WAY back when I did some work on the fountain at Wayne Newton's house. I was a pool electrician back then. He had it set where it would not go as high when the wind was blowing.
13:21:27 <Eric> nice 2ndish
13:21:34 <Eric> but with no pause
13:22:30 <Eric> paused
13:23:06 <Eric> looks done
13:23:56 <Betty> 6h pause
13:24:06 <Eric> Yep...the long pause
13:24:07 <ynpvisitor47> :)
13:24:22 <Eric> Sounds like a good engraving for my tombstone
13:24:58 <Betty> " he took his long pause"?
13:25:45 <Eric> hmm, gonna have to ponder that
13:36:28 <Betty> LC ie
13:37:05 <Betty> mostly near end
13:37:16 <Betty> hi Kent
13:37:22 <Kent> Amazon says Scott's book comes out on July 2nd.
13:37:29 <Kent> Hey Betty
13:47:59 <Eric> Far anyone that is interested...the data output of tantalus creek discharge for the last 12 hours is: https://waterservices.usgs.gov/nwis/iv/?site=06036940&format=json&period=PT12H¶meterCD=00060
13:48:33 <Eric> Took me a little guessing to get those parameters correct...but now I can build our own graph here :-
13:48:36 <Eric> :-)
13:49:08 <Eric> You can change how much data you want to see by changing the "period" parameter
13:49:22 <Kent> Graph was cool. Discharge just didn't go up, it went straight up.
13:50:31 <Eric> Yep...I am going to do a real time graph here so we will see instantly if Steamboat is discharging
13:51:09 <Dave from B> As always, THANKS ERIC!
13:51:18 <Eric> They update that data every 15 minutes in real time
13:51:56 <Dave from B> oh, that reminds me....We finally finalized Becca's rooms yesterday. You can cancel your search. Thanks!:):):)
13:52:09 <Eric> Wooot!
13:52:14 <Kevin L™> All I get is words and numbers
13:52:28 <Kent> Will be fun if it stays active.
13:52:32 <Dave from B> Isn't that wahat a graph is?
13:53:18 <Eric> Done!
13:53:36 <Eric> Yes, that is the link directly to the data I will build a graph from
13:53:45 <Kevin L™> I don't think it would have variableProperty
13:54:32 <Eric> That format is called json...which is easily usable by web browsers to do fun stuff with
13:54:45 <Eric> It's pretty much universal in web programming now
13:54:53 <Kevin L™> I do remember stuff like that. I could even do base 16 math.
13:57:22 <Dave from B> I sure hope they do something with Norris parking lot soon
14:06:12 <Betty> LC ie
14:23:42 <Betty> time for sleep. night all and sweet dreams of Giant and Steamboat :-)
14:23:56 <Eric> Night betty
14:28:18 <Eric> A nice graph from that earlier data: https://jsfiddle.net/nnvr7q57/1/
14:28:58 <Eric> just need to set the times in MDT and then I can give it a widget here :-D
15:05:10 <Forestbewithyou> Has the video of steamboat been released yet
15:36:27 <ynpvisitor60> Steamboat's start time has been updated to 06:30 on gt
15:37:57 <Eric> Yes and that entry has been flagged...I think there was some confusion on USGS part about seismo action and actual start times.
15:38:54 <Eric> unless water takes 90 minutes to discharge to tantalus....I think the observation is correct.
15:39:32 <ynpvisitor60> that could be the case
15:42:14 <ynpvisitor60> I see it now - had to refresh the page. Yes, good call on the flagged start time.
15:42:58 <Eric> I added the discharge graph to GT for reference
15:43:11 <Eric> dome ie via static
15:53:54 <ynpvisitor90> What time do you think the start was Eric ?
15:57:22 <Eric> It sounds like Rocco got saw it pretty close to start from what was posted here. I would go with his observation until we have actual temperature readings from local devices.
16:00:03 <Eric> But all data is good in my book, I think Mike's observation should definitely be a note on Rocco's entry.
16:00:51 <Eric> Or I should say, the seismo data should be linked in a comment from the original entry.
16:01:40 <ynpvisitor60> And the Tantalus creek cfs data backs up Rocco's observation.
16:04:14 <Eric> Yep, that is what I would correlate, just not sure how long it takes the output from steamboat to reach that gauge
16:43:05 <kcmule> lion
16:45:13 <Kevin L™> How is it going kc?
16:47:14 <kcmule> draft anxiety but otherwise ok
16:47:46 <Kevin L™> Did you see the Knights game yesterday.
16:48:35 <kcmule> just the score
16:49:38 <Kevin L™> Pretty wild game. I think the Sharks were unhappy. About 4m in the 3rd period that wasn't a penalty. Lot of 5 on 3.
16:53:16 <kcmule> I would expect a certain amount of goonery in a game like that, esp game 1 of a series
16:53:21 <kcmule> daisy
16:54:38 <Kevin L™> They were just frustrated. We played our best game and they played their worst. I suspect Saturday will be different. I did feel really bad for Graham. That was a tough loss.
17:19:42 <ynpvisitor89> Split Cone
17:28:21 <Kent> Interesting Steamboat defugalty
17:34:07 <kcmule> hopefully it will dedefugaltate
17:34:38 <Kevin L™> Why can't we just get a good video of that thing?
17:34:54 <Kevin L™> More camera shy than Aurum.
18:15:12 <kcmule> bhi
18:15:15 <kcmule> .
18:15:16 <kcmule> .
18:15:24 <kcmule> sending txt
18:15:31 <Kevin L™> Wow
18:16:31 <Kevin L™> Do we have a driver?
18:17:26 <Kitt> thanks for the text
18:17:30 <Kevin L™> I can take it if nobody is running it.
18:17:35 <Kitt> slept thru this mornings text
18:18:27 <Art> .
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18:18:28 <Art> .
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18:18:29 <Art> .
18:18:46 <Kitt> wow, Art that is a lot of dots
18:18:46 <Kent> Yes it is!
18:18:53 <Art> lol
18:19:07 <Art> Looked up and saw indy then saw phone and immediately realized my mistake ;)
18:19:27 <Kitt> your phone needs to whistle
18:19:50 <Kevin L™> Better more dings than no dings.
18:20:01 <Kitt> this is true
18:20:33 <ynpvisitor110> Great conditions tonight
18:20:42 <Kitt> I am also wondering how many Steamboat eruptions we will have before Norris opens up to the public
18:21:11 <Kevin L™> This is a very short BH interval.
18:21:43 <Kitt> isn't over 12 hours
18:21:53 <Kevin L™> Wow. Can't believe that the Kentucky Derby is in a week.
18:22:03 <Kevin L™> 12h18m
18:22:33 <Kitt> I consider very short intervals to be in the 10 to under 12 hour range
18:22:54 <Kitt> I wonder if Little Squirt is due again
18:23:19 <Kevin L™> Susan has one due.
18:23:30 <Kitt> when
18:23:44 <Kevin L™> Think within 3 weeks.
18:24:03 <Kitt> May is good
18:24:19 <Kitt> still in school, but weather is good for outside parties
18:24:25 <Kevin L™> Then there is another in Sep-Oct
18:25:18 <Kitt> nice long indicator
18:25:26 <Kevin L™> Here come some BH customers.
18:25:26 <ynpvisitor110> should be a tall eruption with the light winds
18:25:39 <Kitt> I guess to make up for no indy yesterday
18:25:52 <Kitt> Thar she goes
18:25:54 <Kitt> Beehive
18:26:11 <Kitt> with 2 lucky people over on the boardwalk
18:26:22 <Kitt> oh, more coming
18:26:22 <Kevin L™> Wonder if they knew.
18:26:42 <Kevin L™> Nice pink hive.
18:26:48 <Kitt> awesome sky
18:27:16 <kcmule> bueno
18:27:29 <Kevin L™> Nice catch kc
18:27:55 <kcmule> tougher to get with the bills pick finally coming up
18:28:17 <Kitt> nice and tall
18:28:23 <ynpvisitor110> that makes two nice evening eruptions this week (with Giant)
18:28:46 <Kevin L™> This is a really good BH
18:29:06 <ynpvisitor76> my lucky day!
18:29:17 <Kevin L™> Amazing geyser week. Who would have though Giant and Steamboat?
18:29:54 <Kevin L™> Love the BH curtain. Went just before it would have been too dark.
18:30:26 <kcmule> looks like it's in slow motion
18:30:40 <Kevin L™> It really does.
18:31:37 <Kitt> well that was enjoyable
18:31:56 <ynpvisitor64> Thanks for text. Beautiful eruption.
18:32:01 <Kevin L™> My wife said that her Dr has the cam on between patients. She was surprised to find out a lot of what she was seeing was being controlled from Vegas.
18:32:21 <Kitt> until tomorrow
18:32:33 <Kevin L™> Thanks kc Good luck on the draft. Hope they get one that knows how to be an American.
18:32:50 <sparekitty> good night, everyone.
18:33:06 <Kevin L™> Night.
18:33:10 <Kevin L™> Great sunset.
18:35:49 <kcmule> shot at grand unless it defugaltates
18:43:42 <Kevin L™> I hate it when geysers defugaltate
18:44:20 <Kent> Get your own word. That one is mine :)
18:44:46 <Kevin L™> You should trademark it!
18:45:10 <ynpvisitor99> cameras are undefugaltaters
18:45:36 <Kent> I'll have to copy the symbol off your ID
18:46:12 <Kevin L™> Hit ALT and hold it down and type 0153 on the keypad.
18:49:53 <Kent> Can't figure it out on a Mac keyboard
18:51:00 <Kevin L™> OK. If I find out I will let you know. It is extended ASCII 0153 if that helps.
18:51:33 <Kent>
18:51:47 <Kevin L™> :)
18:52:00 <Kent> option & 2 in combo. Google came through.
18:52:56 <Kevin L™> What would we do without Google. I learned how to make flat cookies on Google today.
18:54:03 <Defugalty™> I pretty much like any shape of cookie
18:54:53 <Kevin L™> :) Somehow round Gingersnaps just did not look right.
18:55:25 <Defugalty™> Love gingersnaps
18:59:51 <ynpvisitor112> Gingersnaps are supposed to be round.
19:00:04 <ynpvisitor112> Not ball shaped, but round
19:00:27 <Kevin L™> Mine were ball shaped
19:00:54 <ynpvisitor112> To geysers, I think the aliens or Russians are messing with our geysers.
19:01:01 <ynpvisitor112> a 12 hour BH?
19:02:50 <Kevin L™> With an Indicator to boot
19:03:38 <Defugalty™> We were very lucky on Beehive. I planned on midnight in the moonlight
19:05:11 <ynpvisitor112> Well, not much to see tonight, other then grand steam.
19:09:51 <Joe> :lion:
19:10:07 <Kitt> Lion
19:33:50 <Joe> :daisy:
19:37:25 <kcmule> 2nd sunrise
19:37:45 <Joe> nice
19:39:29 <Kevin L™> Should be able to see Jupiter just below the moon right now.
19:45:33 <Defugalty™> Clouds :(
19:48:14 <Joe> OF
20:02:45 <ynpvisitor98> Well that answers my question
20:03:01 <ynpvisitor98> Andrew just posted Grotto Fountain and Grotto
20:03:47 <Joe> Yes nice to have in basin reports
20:04:18 <Joe> to very what we think we see
20:04:27 <ynpvisitor98> Often the first Grotto after Giant can have a huge Grotto Fountain
20:06:53 <ynpvisitor98> I see we have had several Grotto eruptions already
20:10:52 <Joe> this will be the first 7hr+ grand since the 25th
20:12:53 <ynpvisitor98> Lion
20:12:57 <Joe> :lion:
20:14:38 <Defugalty™> Would be fun to be able to point the cam at the moon.
20:15:09 <Kevin L™> Probably couldn't get it due to the dome.
20:15:53 <ynpvisitor98> Besides, if I want to see the moon I just have to go outside
20:17:06 <ynpvisitor98> so if Steamboat started at 0630 E, then when did Rocco get his water video?
20:19:01 <Defugalty™> New Aurum cam with sound will not have a dome. :) Old style cam did have some advantages; wiper, point down to avoid slime. Dome cam has a wonderful image though.
20:20:10 <Defugalty™> 98, that is the defugalty™
20:30:11 <ynpvisitor98> Grand
20:40:21 <ynpvisitor98> riverside
20:43:48 <ynpvisitor98> night