Showing logs for date: 2018-05-15
03:56:14 <Joe> looks like south bubblers are active
05:02:18 <Jimbo Bohrium> I could also be JimBohrium
05:17:33 <Bill> Morning
05:18:36 <Jimbo Bohrium> Bubbler by Beehive
05:29:43 <ynpvisitor29> bhi
05:29:44 <ynpvisitor29> .
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05:31:04 <Rice> There's the text, let the drooling begin!
05:32:03 <ynpvisitor76> Thanks for text, drooling :)
05:32:15 <Dave from B™> :star:
05:32:35 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone
05:33:30 <Art> Nice, early side of the window for OF, let's hope the runoff steam clears
05:40:06 <ynpvisitor999®> on time :)
05:45:41 <Bill> Here temp data from Steam Valve, Steamboat (boardwalk and tree), and Echinus from 5/9/2018 - 5/14/2018
05:45:42 <Bill> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HWMHC-olItRLow6F6df0byxuoRphRcuy?usp=sharing
05:45:48 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
05:46:24 <Betty> yay nice timing
05:46:27 <Bill> I'm just going to keep that folder open and shared while I'm uploading things to it's permanent home on IRMA (the NPS data repository).
05:46:36 <Bill> Morning Betty
05:46:45 <Betty> morning Bill
05:46:49 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Betty, morning all
05:46:59 <Bill> Morning
05:47:01 <Betty> afternoon DG
05:47:06 <Betty> hi all
05:47:10 <Eric> BH
05:47:18 <Eric> Morning :-D
05:47:22 <Betty> Really, Eric? ;-)
05:47:46 <Betty> nice to see Riverside too
05:47:50 <Eric> 17m indy...nice
05:48:15 <ynpvisitor999®> tall Bee too
05:48:46 <Betty> those early morning sunlit Bees are the nicest
05:49:06 <Jimbo Bohrium> Afternoon rainbows are good too
05:49:14 <Betty> true
05:49:27 <Betty> all Bees are the nicest :-)
05:52:26 <Betty> that was fun. Time to head home. bbl
05:52:49 <ynpvisitor999®> see you later, Betty
05:55:53 <Eric> bye betty
05:56:05 <Eric> Thanks for the data dump Bill :-D
05:56:11 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks for the data, Bill
05:56:17 <Bill> Hah np.
05:56:27 <Bill> This is all the data we haven't put into a yearly excel yet
05:56:41 <Bill> I do mean all.
05:56:50 <Eric> Not sure I understand it in comparison to YVO logger, but going to chart now :-D
05:57:28 <Eric> just looking at the raw numbers against the eruption times, I am not seeing the changes I would expect
05:57:31 <Bill> So the Steamboat "tree" and YVO logger should be pretty close (I haven't actually looked). They are right next to each other.
05:57:37 <Bill> Same tree
05:58:01 <Bill> I think the YVO/USGS loggers are on a 1min interval.
06:00:08 <ynpvisitor999®> they are, at least when USGS automatically uploaded their data to GT before their logger system began to break
06:01:17 <ynpvisitor999®> wow
06:01:45 <ynpvisitor999®> the NPS logger logged temps above 40 degrees C at least 50 minutes before the E time
06:02:17 <Bill> Yeah... we found that pretty interesting too.
06:02:26 <Jimbo Bohrium> Activity just appeared on the Kilauea cam
06:02:37 <Bill> I was really short on time yesterday so I didn't stop at Emerald to get that data.
06:02:45 <ynpvisitor999®> bummer
06:02:56 <Eric> Yep....the data is definitely different as YVO never even breaks 40
06:03:08 <ynpvisitor999®> is it possible for you to get it today, Bill?
06:03:11 <Dave from B™> Jimbo, can you send me the link aghain. I forgot to put it in my favorites.
06:03:15 <Eric> wow...that is a large light!
06:03:29 <Eric> do you not have webcams on your dashboard Dave?
06:03:36 <Bill> Also, I got in really late last night but we got a new 4k trail camera set up at Steamboat and moved the camera that was pointed at Steamboat down to Cistern.
06:03:54 <ynpvisitor12> Bill, YVO guy, Michael Poland, was on Science Friday on public Radio and did an excellent job on Hawaii
06:04:02 <ynpvisitor12> Go Cistern!
06:04:10 <Dave from B™> Don't you have any streaming cams of Kileau?
06:04:29 <Bill> We may make a trip down there today. We have a couple of new people so we may be headed down to either Norris or Old Faithful today to meet up with them.
06:05:07 <Bill> Mike Poland is great! Got to spend a good amount of time with him. He's a busy guy lately. He's involved in YVO, CVO and HVO.
06:05:15 <Dave from B™> Sounds like lava is headed to the ocean
06:05:22 <ynpvisitor999®> by the way, is that trail camera able to live stream?
06:05:30 <Bill> No, sadly
06:05:38 <ynpvisitor999®> :(
06:06:05 <Bill> It's not a cellular capable device and there's also no service down there. We plan to get something more permanent and use the existing communication infrastructure at Norris in the near future though.
06:06:13 <Bill> This is just a temporary solution.
06:06:21 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks for the insight
06:06:31 <Eric> Hey bill...I talked to Adam Mosbrucker at CVO on Saturday, he does all of their Field Media stuff. Might be a good resource for you guys and field cameras.
06:07:41 <ynpvisitor12> Even an online cam that only updated once a minute or less would be a good addition.
06:07:52 <Eric> He doesn't have to deal with the NP restrictions that you do, but good guy and serious into geology and photo/video usage.
06:07:53 <ynpvisitor36> Kilauea seems to have no streaming cams, but there are plenty of static cams for the craters there.
06:08:31 <Bill> Oh nice! I may have to hit him up. Mike and I are going to be getting together again in the next month or so to talk about telemetered temp loggers and possibly more seismic monitors. We would like it to be a home brewed solution that we own and manage.
06:09:00 <ynpvisitor36> https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_chronology.html
06:09:09 <ynpvisitor12> You guys continue to do good work.
06:09:14 <Bill> He's going to talk to one of his engineers about some of the specs that we want and see if they can build something.
06:09:19 <ynpvisitor36> Kilauea USGS daily regular photos.
06:10:02 <Kent> Working loggers are great
06:10:41 <ynpvisitor36> Kilauea static cams. To my mind the thermal cams are most helpful, as the visual cams are frequently obscured by ash, steam, whathaveyou - https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_webcams.html
06:11:46 <ynpvisitor36> Here are Kilauea daily maps. This week, concentrating on the East Rift Zone.
06:11:58 <ynpvisitor36> https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_maps.html
06:12:40 <Eric> I think what Jimbo was pointing out is the east rift static cam now has a very bright glow in the background! New from 1/2 hour ago.
06:13:00 <ynpvisitor999®> so, based on the Steamboat logger data, I think the eruption started @ 0348(:28) E, because then the temperature continued to rise to 63°C. Seems to be a short water phase though, 6 minutes long, after which temperature dropped to 44°C within half a minute (start of steam phase?)
06:14:05 <ynpvisitor999®> large plume above Grotto-Giant area
06:14:51 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP footbath 0807
06:15:29 <ynpvisitor36> Hi Eric and Jimbo - do we have a link for that East Rift cam? All I can find are Pu'u o'o cams...
06:21:31 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
06:21:51 <ynpvisitor999®> and gone
06:22:08 <Jimbo Bohrium> 36, it's here: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/observatories/hvo/webcam.html?webcam=PGcam
06:24:25 <Dave from B™> Thanks 36
06:24:57 <ynpvisitor999®> wasn't 0821 a Lion minor?
06:34:05 <ynpvisitor999®> Dep ie?
06:34:16 <ynpvisitor999®> yes
06:34:21 <ynpvisitor999®> nice splashes
06:36:33 <Jimbo Bohrium> Hey, I saw those!!
06:51:52 <Dave from B™> Morning Kevin
06:52:06 <Kevin L™> Morning
06:53:02 <Eric> The Kilauea East Rift cam is on this page...just select it from the dropdown menu on the static cams
06:53:40 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Kevin
06:56:41 <Eric> Hi Kevin
06:58:44 <Eric> geyser :-) https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/observatories/hvo/multimedia_uploads/multimediaFile-2018.jpg
06:59:31 <sparekitty> i prefer yellowstones! but hawaii's are sure impressive.
06:59:56 <Eric> Yep, some of theirs are even bright red.
07:00:48 <ynpvisitor999®> and can be among the tallest of any geyser currently active, sometimes topping Steamboat by several (hundred) meters
07:01:56 <Dave from B™> It amazes me that it is so green so close to the fissures.
07:02:19 <Eric> Yep...go into street view on maps in that area....it's jungle.
07:02:20 <Dave from B™> You would think the ground would be warm nearby
07:02:44 <Dave from B™> but lava seems to be the only thing killing vegetation
07:05:05 <ynpvisitor999®> fluffy
07:06:03 <Jimbo Bohrium> fumarole more precisely, Eric
07:09:01 <Eric> "Yesterday with the onset of activity at fissure 17, powerful steam jets have occurred intermittently near the west end of the fissure."
07:09:12 <Eric> from USGS
07:09:44 <Eric> so I think that image is more geyser than fumarole...if I understand the terminology correctly.
07:11:12 <Eric> I assume the lava hits a water table and that water vaporizes and shoots out of the ground. Not quite the same process as typical geysers.
07:11:34 <Eric> I agree that most of what you see on the cams are fumaroles
07:12:27 <Jimbo Bohrium> I just thought generally a fumarole is a vent for gases, including water vapor
07:13:19 <Eric> ahhh, that makes sense...wasn't thinking water vapor.
07:14:55 <Eric> So i guess that was not giant steam we saw last night....hope people get giant today!
07:16:02 <ynpvisitor999®> Steamboat was quiet @ 0721, and Cistern has dropped 4.5 feet below overflow as of 0725
07:17:43 <Dave from B™> 1.5 or 4.5?
07:18:02 <Dave from B™> 4.5...ok
07:18:19 <ynpvisitor999®> 1822 note: 3' from overflow, lightly bubbling
07:18:34 <Dave from B™> I thought Cistern drained right after a Steamboat eruption; not 1-2 days later
07:18:46 <ynpvisitor999®> so add up the 1.5' drop to that 3' @ 1822 and you get 4.5'
07:20:30 <ynpvisitor999®> Cistern did start to drop on the 13th, though it was only inches below overflow then
07:21:27 <Dave from B™> I wish I could retire and spend all day on geysers
07:23:00 <Kevin L™> By then you will be old and creaky and have lots of Grandkids and not enough money to pay the overinflated Xanterra prices.
07:25:42 <Dave from B™> I might have to bite the bullet and do the camper route....I don't want to buy a pickup
07:28:25 <Dave from B™> Maybe I should buy some property in West and rent out via VRBO when I'm not there
07:33:54 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Jake
07:35:35 <Eric> That would be good Dave :-D
07:36:42 <Dave from B™> Honolulu Civil Port on FB for live volcano cam
07:37:29 <Dave from B™> Eric, instead of waiting for nps help, we build a motel in West and rent only to gazers
07:38:12 <sparekitty> i know someone who is doing just that--but for fishermen.
07:38:34 <sparekitty> i told him he could make a TON of money by targeting geyser gazers.
07:39:37 <Jake> morning DG, others
07:40:40 <Dave from B™> Morning Jake
07:41:06 <Dave from B™> My wife would never live in West...It's too cold for her in Billings
07:44:32 <ynpvisitor999®> First Turban is in, 0940
07:47:16 <Kevin L™> That looks interesting.
07:47:53 <ynpvisitor999®> it does
07:48:10 <ynpvisitor999®> though I think either Grotto starting or Rocket major
07:48:41 <ynpvisitor999®> Grotto 0946 ie
07:51:48 <Art> So based on what was posted on listserv about Steamboat, the minor activity seems to get pretty impressive
07:51:54 <Art> Day before eruption at least
07:56:29 <Jake> show me the business plan that makes a gazer hotel/vrbo house financially viable
07:57:00 <Dave from B™> then you will send me a check?
07:57:24 <Art> We've been looking at listings, mostly just for fun, for years and the prices just seem to keep going through the roof
07:57:41 <Art> Bozeman, Gardiner, West, Cooke City/Silvergate
07:57:52 <Kevin L™> Too bad there aren't geysers in Zion.
07:57:56 <Art> You'd think it was a major metro area like Seattle or San Fran
07:58:33 <Jake> well, it kind of is, 2nd or 3rd or 4th homes for people with $ from big cities
07:58:46 <Jake> or cash out and move permanently
07:59:14 <Dave from B™> Heavy demand in gateway community...We seriously considered buying a B&B in Gardiner and offering small part tours
07:59:26 <Dave from B™> in the early 90s
08:00:58 <Jake> West is limited by the seasons, have to make all your money in a few months
08:01:33 <Dave from B™> gazers only need a 10' by 10' room anyway!:D
08:01:53 <Kevin L™> With wifi
08:03:59 <Dave from B™> My motel would be $249/night unless you have your GOSA card...then it would be $69:)
08:04:23 <Eric> Nice :-D
08:04:26 <Kevin L™> I like your thinking
08:04:41 <Eric> Would drive a lot of GOSA memberships too
08:05:47 <Jake> is that the best you can do, $69?
08:06:02 <Dave from B™> To get your GOSA card, you would need to pass a 100 question geyser test
08:06:45 <Kevin L™> Free granola bar breakfast?
08:06:47 <Dave from B™> Gazers would get to reserve one month earlier than others
08:07:12 <Dave from B™> No frills....bath down the hall...gazers don't want anything but bed and wifi
08:07:15 <Mike J> Is it just me, or would it be fun to put together and/or have to answer a 100 question geyser test?
08:07:33 <Dave from B™> I'm with you, Mike!
08:07:51 <Forestbewithyou> Hola
08:08:51 <ynpvisitor999®> As long as those questions relate to geysers and not blatant trivia questions some countries have when you want to be an official inhabitant rather than an immigrant, I'm fine with that.
08:09:09 <Jake> I have a 10 question pub trivia ready-to-go for the next time I'm at a wine and cheese social :D
08:10:17 <Dave from B™> Questions like....Who's scream is famous when this gazer first saw F&M
08:10:40 <Kevin L™> Who took the famous Steamboat shower?
08:10:57 <ynpvisitor999®> those I'd rate as bonus questions
08:11:33 <Kevin L™> What are the 3 most common comments you hear while waiting at Depression?
08:11:53 <ynpvisitor999®> "Depressing, isn't it"?
08:12:03 <Eric> What is that thing your looking at?
08:12:08 <Jake> I designed mine to work with teams of people that aren't necessarily all geyser geeks, but it's all geyser related
08:12:17 <Dave from B™> Essay questions like....Tell me your favorite Jim S story and tell me why you like it
08:12:50 <Dave from B™> to answer Kevin's question....is that all it does?
08:13:14 <Eric> or it could be as easy as you have to have 3 GOSA members sponsor you.
08:13:16 <Kevin L™> 1. I am so depressed, 2. Must have been named during the depression, 3. You must have to throw Prozak® in it to make it erupt.
08:13:42 <Dave from B™> haha
08:15:19 <Eric> Since the last 2 intervals of Grand have been exactly 6h28m, I am going to predict Grand 10:41 exactly :-P
08:18:04 <Dave from B™> All my motel guests would have to watch a video about staying on the bw and they will know that riding a bison isn't a good idea
08:19:43 <Kevin L™> How dow they watch it with no TV Dave?
08:20:28 <Dave from B™> There is a common area so people can talk about their daily adventure
08:26:40 <Eric> lots of gas venting on the fissures today.
08:27:09 <Kevin L™> I can relate to that!
08:29:06 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
08:29:36 <Kevin L™> Of course during the OF window. :(
08:31:09 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand
08:31:14 <Kevin L™> And Grand
08:31:16 <ynpvisitor999®> also during OF window
08:31:17 <Kevin L™> :p
08:32:21 <Dave from B™> Eric, you were 2 minutes off
08:32:24 <ynpvisitor999®> D0/---
08:35:50 <ynpvisitor999®> OF ns
08:36:18 <ynpvisitor999®> no, exact for the minute
08:40:41 <ynpvisitor999®> end of first burst
08:41:03 <ynpvisitor999®> 2nd
08:41:04 <ynpvisitor33> boom
08:41:40 <Dave from B™> where's the rewind button?
08:43:42 <ynpvisitor999®> 2*
08:43:54 <ynpvisitor999®> that's part of the Grand code
08:43:54 <Kevin L™> Long eruption
08:44:17 <ynpvisitor33> Can we go for a 3rd?
08:44:22 <ynpvisitor999®> 13 minutes, possibly 14 now
08:44:50 <Dave from B™> I wonder if it was a D0G
08:46:36 <ynpvisitor999®> D0/G2*Q | 13m14s
08:47:10 <ynpvisitor33> I know that 2* means 2 burst but what does everything else mean?
08:47:26 <ynpvisitor999®> *: 2nd burst >= 1m15s
08:47:35 <Dave from B™> * means a longer 2nd burst right
08:47:39 <ynpvisitor999®> #: 3rd burst >= 1m15s
08:48:31 <Mike J> Shoot, walked away at just the wrong time
08:48:38 <ynpvisitor33> plate?
08:49:26 <Kevin L™> Here you are 33: https://geysertimes.org/glossary.php
08:49:54 <Mike J> Better study up on the glossary if I'm gonna pass the test
08:50:22 <Dave from B™> haha
08:50:23 <ynpvisitor33> Thanks
09:01:30 <ynpvisitor999®> 19 fissures now
09:12:54 <Eric> Plate geyser - https://www.dropbox.com/s/gl1dtgryguvriw9/plategeyser.png?dl=0
09:13:05 <Eric> Not in eruption, but you can see the steam
09:14:28 <Eric> BTW, my prediction was exact...for the 2nd :-P
09:24:21 <Jake> nice, I haven't heard that form of moving goalposts on a prediction!
09:32:27 <Dave from B™> Fewer under 6 hour ints on Grand of late
09:33:13 <ynpvisitor999®> Hopefully that means the Sawmill group will become more active again
09:34:32 <ynpvisitor999®> or, what if Economic tries to render Grand dormant?
09:40:16 <Eric> Meh, I was just hoping for a triplet of exact times on grand :-D
09:45:11 <Art> Eric, watched some time-lapses of the lake cam. Every once and a while I'm guessing the wind shifts the entire ice field, pretty neat. Thanks for hosting those time lapses...
09:47:16 <Eric> Cool Art, I will check them out! Glad I can do it.
10:02:56 <ynpvisitor999®> Apparently another fissure has opened in Lanipuna Gardens
10:03:02 <ynpvisitor999®> not numbered yet, though
10:10:34 <ynpvisitor999®> OF
10:22:23 <ynpvisitor999®> first Lone Pine of the year has been entered in GT
10:25:13 <Betty> good afternoon all
10:25:26 <ynpvisitor999®> evening Betty
10:25:29 <Kevin L™> Hi
10:25:44 <Betty> hi Kevin and DG
10:26:28 <Kevin L™> Another NoDoz® day.
10:27:07 <Betty> I had BH this morning, not too bad in a hop on-hop off
10:27:56 <Kevin L™> I missed it
10:28:11 <Betty> bummer
10:28:20 <Betty> it was a really nice on
10:28:43 <Betty> one
10:32:05 <Kevin L™> I did catch the morning Amtrak in Flagstaff which had a private Pullman in Rio Grande paint.
10:33:30 <Eric> Hi Betty
10:33:34 <Eric> Nice Kevin!
10:33:42 <ynpvisitor...> Private cars are actually totally cool!
10:34:00 <Kevin L™> Also had a B&O observation.
10:34:10 <Betty> hi Eric and Kent
10:34:26 <ynpvisitor...> Hey Betty
10:35:47 <ynpvisitor...> Lone Pine - nice to see
10:36:16 <Dave from B™> Kevin, you had a BO observation?:)
10:36:54 <Kevin L™> A few of them Dave.
10:37:44 <Kevin L™> Great that Janet got to catch some of it.
10:38:30 <ynpvisitor...> It's just nice to know it came through the winter and is still with us
10:39:44 <Dave from B™> I hope Giant hasn't left us
10:40:14 <Betty> hi Dave
10:41:09 <Dave from B™> wb Betty
10:41:33 <Betty> thx
11:00:25 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
11:02:13 <Kevin L™> Nice lighting on Faisy.
11:06:54 <Art> Interesting that there have been a decrease in Giant Hot Periods (Either notes or actual hot periods)
11:08:13 <Dave from B™> Art, I was wondering the same thing...maybe it's resting up before erupting!
11:11:18 <Art> Unless no one is down there or has given up?
11:12:38 <Kevin L™> Or is asleep.
11:30:21 <Kevin L™> Hey Dave, here is how you can save a few bucks: http://starlogcabins.com/garden-sheds-wi-wisconsin-minnesota-shed-builder-modular-sheds-rustic-sheds-log-cabin-sheds-wisconsin-cabin-sheds-pool-house-green-thumb-sheds-storage-sheds-garden-sheds-yard-sheds-trailer-home-sh/outhouse-builders-wis-minnesoda-illinois-iowa/
11:33:01 <Dave from B™> haha
11:33:23 <Dave from B™> I may just buy the Roughrider cabins whenever they get changed out
11:33:46 <Kevin L™> Same thing!
11:35:38 <Art> Anyone want to go in on this place up in Gardiner?
11:35:38 <Art> https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Gardiner-MT/78177048_zpid/31699_rid/45.650528,-109.554291,44.613933,-111.312104_rect/8_zm/
11:36:11 <Art> Can just rename the laundry mat to "The Queens Laundry" ;)
11:46:28 <Dave from B™> Art, where do I send a check?
11:46:30 <Dave from B™> :)
11:47:03 <ynpvisitor22> Well, at least now there's a Lone Pine data point.
12:24:01 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP footbath 1417
12:31:20 <Kevin L™> Clean feet this week.
12:40:17 <Betty> Plate?
12:44:49 <Dave from B™> Kilaeau update...https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_chronology.html
12:44:53 <ynpvisitor999®> Aurum
12:44:54 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:44:55 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:44:55 <Betty> .
12:44:55 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:44:55 <Betty> .
12:44:56 <Betty> .
12:44:57 <Betty> .
12:45:01 <ynpvisitor999®> and gone
12:45:52 <Kevin L™> Nice break
12:50:43 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... I wonder if this increase in ash emission either signifies a massive collapse of the Halema'uma'u crater or new lava plus crater collapse
12:51:02 <Kevin L™> Probably
12:52:16 <Kevin L™> I wonder if tourism is up or down right now.
12:56:01 <Dave from B™> My wifes parents and sister and niece are there right now
12:56:33 <Kevin L™> Big Island?
12:56:43 <Dave from B™> Oahu
12:57:00 <Dave from B™> sister and niece are also going to Maui and Kauai
12:57:02 <Betty> wow
12:57:46 <Kevin L™> Might be worth booking an air tour of the big island
12:57:50 <Dave from B™> My wife's parents are former military. there is a great military hotel on the edge of Waikiki Beach. We have stayed there once
12:58:17 <Dave from B™> My mother in law is afraid of almost everything...no way she is getting in a helicopter
12:58:54 <Dave from B™> And sister and niece are poor. She is a travel agent and gets"free" vacations all the time. Usually airfare and lodging
13:00:17 <Kevin L™> Those can be nice. I stayed in those at Garmisch-Partenkirchen and Berchtesgaden.
13:01:32 <Dave from B™> I wish they would take more advantage of their military benefits instead of going to LV all the time
13:02:59 <Kevin L™> Helicopters are a blast. I really enjoyed them. I was in an air mobile unit (1st Cav) and we flew the Hueys a lot. Totally an awesome experience.
13:03:26 <Dave from B™> It's on my bucket list
13:04:21 <Kevin L™> When I was in Germany I was at a base with copters and we would go after work and hitch a ride with pilots flying to keep their hours up. Great air tours.
13:05:20 <Betty> sounds like fun
13:05:43 <Kevin L™> When I first flew in a small copter (Kiowa) the pilot had been out of Nam for less than a year. What a ride! There were tree limbs in our runners when we landed!
13:08:45 <Dave from B™> haha....now you would need a diaper!
13:09:23 <Kevin L™> I could have used one back then. Especially on the way back.
13:10:14 <Kevin L™> In the US we would fly with the door open on the Hueys. That took a while to get used to.
13:11:36 <Kevin L™> Got to do an air tour of Frankenstein's Castle Betty.
13:12:35 <LETS GO CAPS> afternoon
13:12:43 <LETS GO CAPS> and congrats Kevin
13:13:39 <Kevin L™> TY. That was the team I remembered. The other one seems to do horrible on national tv.
13:14:10 <Kevin L™> Are you going to the Caps game?
13:14:10 <LETS GO CAPS> its a new series of 5 now
13:14:14 <Dave from B™> Why all CAPS for the caps?
13:14:20 <LETS GO CAPS> nope, but will watch some of it
13:14:31 <Kevin L™> Makes sense to me Dave.
13:14:46 <LETS GO CAPS> why not ... worth yelling about
13:14:57 <Dave from B™> go isles go
13:15:00 <Kevin L™> Are they going to win at home?
13:16:02 <LETS GO CAPS> i hope so but they are 7-1 on the road so far ... win better then
13:16:59 <Kevin L™> I know they have done well on the road.
13:18:12 <Kevin L™> It would be fun for a Knights Caps Stanley Cup. Whatever happens, the Knights have far exceeded my expectations.
13:20:14 <Dave from B™> My 2 staff members who were in Vegas the past week said the town is going gaga over the Knights
13:21:10 <Kevin L™> They have sure won over Vegas. They are a class act.
13:22:25 <Dave from B™> Even the Statue of liberty at NYNY is wearing a Knights jersey
13:23:10 <LETS GO CAPS> haha have to change that to a Caps jersey
13:25:10 <Betty> OF
13:25:14 <LETS GO CAPS> two ftns today, nice
13:26:00 <Betty> when does Firehole Lake Drive open?
13:26:27 <LETS GO CAPS> usually Mem Day weekend
13:26:43 <Betty> thx
13:27:07 <LETS GO CAPS> should be open by Sept :)
13:27:38 <Betty> :thumbsup:
13:28:08 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy ie
13:28:45 <Betty> I´m lagged 30 seconds
13:29:21 <Kevin L™> I think Daisy was ns
13:30:04 <ynpvisitor999®> based on the steam plume I think you can say that. Though I entered it as ie to be on the safe side
13:30:23 <ynpvisitor999®> 1526 in-basin
13:30:37 <Kevin L™> There was a politician in Saskatchewan that wanted to adopt the Knight as their home team. I hope the Knights pick up on that.
13:31:04 <LETS GO CAPS> as long as they dont move to Saskatoon
13:32:57 <Kevin L™> I don't think they are going anywhere since the owner paid for T-Mobile Arena (without taxpayer funds).
13:33:08 <Kevin L™> Now the Raiders on the other hand...
13:34:17 <Dave from B™> maybe Raiders could play in the CFL
13:34:50 <Kevin L™> No, the CFL stands for the National Anthem.
13:34:58 <LETS GO CAPS> Panthers for sale, 2.2B
13:35:30 <LETS GO CAPS> good branding opportunity Dave
13:35:48 <Kevin L™> He could call them the catfish.
13:36:44 <LETS GO CAPS> nice day in Hawaii .... although its still growing
13:37:14 <Kevin L™> Speaking of CFL, Stampeders first game is June 1.
13:37:46 <Kevin L™> 17d3h22m away.
13:41:46 <Betty> Sleep is calling. Have a great evening all
13:41:55 <ynpvisitor999®> night Betty
13:42:08 <Kevin L™> Good Knight Betty.
13:53:42 <Dave from B™> nite Betty
13:56:23 <Eric> Dave, I think we might have hit option E) :-(
13:56:41 <Kevin L™> I chose F.
14:02:33 <Dave from B™> Time to finish in the market. Have a great evening everyone!
14:02:41 <Dave from B™> Eric, I choose Z
14:03:30 <Jake> what were the options, on Giant you mean?
14:03:31 <Eric> Night Dave :-D
14:03:57 <Eric> Yes, on giant...dave had a survey on expected eruption dates.
14:04:21 <Eric> the last options was d) was after sunday 5/13
14:04:44 <Jake> oh yeah, I picked that one
14:05:12 <Kevin L™> Have a good Knight Dave.
14:05:50 <Eric> So is that lava we can see in the distance on the right side of the horizon near kilauea?
14:05:53 <LETS GO CAPS> Giant before or after the next Steamboat?
14:06:01 <Jake> longer intervals in Apr/May 2006 and 2007 in the 10 to 16 day range
14:06:05 <Eric> https://geysercam.xyz/kilauea-latest.jpg?1526421901674
14:06:14 <Jake> so not out of the ordinary here for spring time
14:06:47 <Jake> and another whole week to wait!
14:07:53 <LETS GO CAPS> theres the theory that Giant doesnt like the water levels ......
14:08:09 <Eric> I heard micah mention that
14:08:14 <LETS GO CAPS> so i think it will go before Steamboat
14:08:24 <LETS GO CAPS> just to annoy Micah
14:08:28 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP bathtub 1559
14:08:39 <Kevin L™> More clean feet.
14:09:20 <ynpvisitor999®> roughly 1h45m after the last GHP note
14:09:26 <LETS GO CAPS> i hope someone gets to see Steamboat start
14:09:49 <ynpvisitor33> The stupid geyser loves to be a vampire
14:09:53 <ynpvisitor999®> And Grotto 1608
14:10:27 <Eric> So the river levels are dropping again slowly.
14:10:48 <Eric> I can see micah's point about the levels, as both eruptions have taken place after a drop in height.
14:11:16 <Kevin L™> F&M doesn't like high water either.
14:11:34 <ynpvisitor33> F&M doesn't like low water though either
14:11:46 <Kevin L™> :)
14:11:54 <Jake> [citations needed]
14:11:56 <Kevin L™> It also hates it when I am there.
14:12:02 <LETS GO CAPS> yep, depends where the water is
14:12:32 <ynpvisitor33> Well
14:12:33 <LETS GO CAPS> low water is a bad sign
14:12:45 <ynpvisitor33> Actually F&M do whatever they want
14:12:57 <Kevin L™> Like Aurum.
14:12:58 <LETS GO CAPS> although seeing Main start whe gold high and angle have no water is fun too
14:13:43 <Jake> maybe it's the change in water level that is the culprit, not the water level itself
14:15:26 <Eric> Firehole River gauge with giant eruptions marked as red: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x0clxwzh2vinbfo/fireholeriver-giant.png?dl=0
14:16:32 <BruceJ> What's the wee red star * ?
14:18:22 <BruceJ> It also looks like each day has two inflection points from drop to rise, based on I'm not sure what...
14:18:43 <Kevin L™> The water was rushin.
14:22:03 <Kevin L™> Radar is showing a tad bit of snow near Cody.
14:23:15 <BruceJ> Looking at the Giant vs. water height graph, it does not appear that there is a strong relationship between height or delta height (positive or negative). The first one comes after a smallish drop, the second after a low ebb and slight rise.
14:24:28 <Kevin L™> I wonder if the barometric pressure has any effect on it.
14:27:38 <Kevin L™> Polly got an arty.
14:27:41 <BruceJ> If one looks beyond the chart to today, there is a significant rise in river level through the 12th, then a drop-off to today. Not sure this means anything without an eruption.
14:28:30 <BruceJ> Lucky (or more likely, persistent) Polly!
14:29:33 <Eric> The water level has been dropping since about the 10th
14:29:58 <Eric> https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=06036805&period=&begin_date=2018-05-08&end_date=2018-05-16
14:30:12 <LETS GO CAPS> so maybe we will get Giant Steamboat and F&M in play :)
14:30:30 <ynpvisitor999®> that would be awesome
14:30:54 <LETS GO CAPS> but watch out ... you could miss all of them
14:31:07 <ynpvisitor999®> though it might become a problem if they all go right after each other
14:31:17 <LETS GO CAPS> i bet Norris will be busy on Sunday
14:31:26 <BruceJ> Right - the 10th - I was looking at the average height, which peaks at about 11th.
14:32:07 <LETS GO CAPS> then Mem Day timeframe could be crazy ... have to limit tickets
14:32:15 <BruceJ> Amazingly, right now, Steamboat *seems* to be the most likely one. I never thought I'd say that.
14:32:15 <LETS GO CAPS> have a Hamilton lottery?
14:32:52 <LETS GO CAPS> how many gazers can the platform support?
14:33:08 <Eric> haha...guess we will find out :-D
14:33:16 <BruceJ> Norris for me on Sunday really early.
14:33:24 <LETS GO CAPS> good luck
14:33:49 <BruceJ> Thanks - it's the best I can do.
14:34:39 <ynpvisitor11> you might be weary by Monday, yet you might get it then.
14:34:57 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if the USGS/YVO is able to place their Steamboat sensor closer to the NPS one. That way it allows for catching some pre-eruptive heavy minors
14:34:59 <Kevin L™> ?Hope you catch it.
14:35:00 <BruceJ> I'll hang in there for a couple of days.
14:35:27 <Kevin L™> Put in your fish order with Dave.
14:35:30 <ynpvisitor11> hopefully it will not erupt when you go get supplies at Canyon or something
14:36:06 <ynpvisitor11> summer season will really be started with the ice off of Yellowstone Lake...
14:36:09 <BruceJ> I intend to have about 3 days worth of stuff in the car, including warm dry clothes and food and water.
14:36:35 <ynpvisitor11> LE might get to know you...
14:36:57 <BruceJ> We may all get to know each other!
14:37:08 <ynpvisitor11> I hope it is in the light so you can share photos with us all
14:37:16 <BruceJ> Me2
14:37:42 <LETS GO CAPS> there should be lights
14:37:44 <ynpvisitor11> If it waits until Monday, that would push the next one until after the Memorial Day crowd is gone
14:38:43 <BruceJ> What I'd LOVE to do is be able to get a photo or video from the platform, and then have enough water phase left to run down and duplicate that 1960s long shot of the geyser above the treetops.
14:38:48 <ynpvisitor11> so no Giant for SteveO...
14:40:30 <ynpvisitor999®> based on the logged half-minute intervals, it seems the eruption on the 13th had a water phase of about 6m, after which temperature dropped to 44°C in just half a minute
14:40:56 <BruceJ> If it goes Monday *in daylight*, that would ALSO provide further support for a lengthening interval trajectory. 7D14H, 7D16H, 8D4H - ?
14:41:13 <ynpvisitor999®> coincidentally that's also the start of the noise seen on the YNM graph @ 0354
14:41:18 <BruceJ> Yeah, 6 minutes is short shrift to run around- but
14:42:02 <BruceJ> Maybe that means we'd have to choose.
14:42:13 <ynpvisitor11> maybe this next eruption will be more classic, with a huge start and then a defined steam phase, LOUD.
14:42:22 <ynpvisitor999®> apparently there was a true GHP @ 1313 today
14:42:25 <BruceJ> That would be fun!
14:42:46 <BruceJ> Nice re: the 1313
14:42:49 <ynpvisitor11> no marathon event it is recovering from this time
14:43:01 <LETS GO CAPS> it will be good to see a GHP ... its been a long time for me
14:46:02 <LETS GO CAPS> i see my last GHP still shows up in GT last 100 hot periods
14:49:35 <BruceJ> Mine does not - I have to go back to August 2007 :-(
14:52:39 <BruceJ> I found a discrepancy.
14:53:10 <BruceJ> Giant - July 6, 2007 - it was at 1958, not 1949. Hmmmm.
14:54:35 <Eric> someone is fired!
14:56:46 <BruceJ> Hah! Naw, I think Lynn just misread somebody's henscratch. I would guess that Warren Hoppe began to CALL the Hot Period at 1949. That would match my recollection perfectly.
14:57:24 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand
14:57:31 <Kevin L™> Grand :P
14:57:34 <BruceJ> Well, thar goes old Fretful again.
14:57:49 <ynpvisitor999®> definitely D0/---
14:57:57 <Kevin L™> 2 for 2 today
15:00:24 <BruceJ> Aaaaaand everyone goes back to their cars and buses....
15:00:38 <Eric> Grand looks nice!
15:00:46 <Eric> Thanks camop
15:01:30 <BruceJ> OOOh, that's pretty.
15:02:24 <Eric> Does anyone else think the Kilauea east rift cam seems to be densifying with gas at a central location?
15:03:10 <BruceJ> Can someone tell me what the D0 on Grand means?
15:03:50 <Kevin L™> Over 25m Turban interval. First one.
15:04:21 <Kevin L™> Here is a glossary: https://geysertimes.org/glossary.php
15:05:54 <BruceJ> Wow, OK , thanks - until this moment, I never recall hearing of a Turban delay, or a 25-minute Turban.
15:06:59 <LETS GO CAPS> some Turban intervals can be 40m
15:07:29 <Eric> pause
15:07:29 <BruceJ> I have witnessed that. Amazing.
15:07:45 <BruceJ> NEVER witnessed that.
15:08:12 <ynpvisitor999®> 2nd
15:08:14 <Eric> 2nd
15:08:30 <Eric> late 2nd too
15:08:58 <Eric> pause again
15:09:06 <Eric> don't give up yet
15:09:50 <Eric> :-(
15:09:51 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP 1657
15:09:52 <LETS GO CAPS> this is the long pause
15:10:14 <ynpvisitor999®> with Feather up 4'
15:10:28 <Eric> Give it about 6h graham :-D
15:10:46 <LETS GO CAPS> i think i will sleep through the next burst
15:11:02 <Kevin L™> Giant is sounding better.
15:11:23 <ynpvisitor999®> G2Q | 11m35s
15:11:26 <Kevin L™> Watch for it. Feeding chickens.
15:11:39 <ynpvisitor999®> yet makes no note of the (possible) D0
15:12:30 <BruceJ> That GHP looks better than most stuff we've read the last few days.
15:12:53 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe today will be the day for Giant :)
15:13:29 <BruceJ> That would be most welcome! :-)
15:13:53 <BruceJ> Gotta go - thanks for the chat! Later folks...
15:14:08 <ynpvisitor999®> bye Bruce
15:21:14 <Kevin L™> o Giantess?
15:21:20 <Kevin L™> No
15:23:01 <ynpvisitor999®> ⋅ ⋅ ⋅⋅⋅---===≡≡≡★
15:23:08 <ynpvisitor999®> quick! make a wish
15:25:06 <LETS GO CAPS> WT seems to be a regular performer these days
15:25:47 <LETS GO CAPS> is there a game tonight?
15:33:07 <ynpvisitor999®> ughh... all those emails about privacy policy changes scheduled to go into effect on May 25...
15:33:44 <LETS GO CAPS> doesnt bother me, i have no privacy
15:35:09 <ynpvisitor999®> those changes will mainly affect the European Union, as on May 25 stricter privacy laws will go into effect
15:35:20 <LETS GO CAPS> the government leaks it to anyoe that wants it
15:35:42 <ynpvisitor999®> anyway
15:35:48 <Kevin L™> They have more Governments to leak.
15:35:55 <ynpvisitor999®> Kilauea now red/warning
15:36:30 <ynpvisitor999®> fissures 20 and 21 are confirmed
15:36:52 <LETS GO CAPS> wait...wasnt it 18 yesterday?
15:36:52 <ynpvisitor999®> activity is concentrating on fissure 17
15:37:02 <ynpvisitor999®> yes it was
15:38:36 <ynpvisitor999®> seems like the HVO has to update the status on the website, as Kilauea's color is still orange/warning
15:39:05 <LETS GO CAPS> whats the difference?
15:41:37 <LETS GO CAPS> theres a GIP report ... should be a note tho
15:41:40 <Eric> Last alert I see, still shows Orange
15:42:00 <Eric> Issued at 22:28 UTC
15:42:19 <ynpvisitor999®> according to USGS, orange/warning means "Major volcanic eruption is imminent, underway, or suspected but it poses limited hazards to aviation because of no or minor volcanic-ash emissions (e.g., an eruption with only substantial lava flows and no risk of ash production)." and red/warning means...
15:42:23 <ynpvisitor999®> ..."Major volcanic eruption is imminent, underway, or suspected with hazardous activity both on the ground and in the air."
15:42:43 <Eric> Can you link to where they have moved to Red?
15:42:55 <ynpvisitor999®> https://twitter.com/USGSVolcanoes/status/996532402754277376
15:43:23 <LETS GO CAPS> ah, ok. so its the airborn ash thats important. interesting ...... now that i work in the flight planning business with area that includes HI
15:43:30 <LETS GO CAPS> thanks
15:44:19 <Eric> That USGS Orange alert was posted AFTER that tweet, so I bet it was a mistake.
15:45:20 <ynpvisitor999®> we'll see what Kilauea does
15:45:46 <ynpvisitor999®> though it's probably a high-end orange-rated volcano now
15:47:06 <LETS GO CAPS> The GIP walk, how i have missed that ... back and forth betweeh nthe cgeand the gip
15:47:21 <LETS GO CAPS> cvage and GIP
15:47:25 <LETS GO CAPS> grrrr
15:48:06 <Eric> woops...nope, sorry that tweet was an hour later than the Orange alert update.
15:48:23 <ynpvisitor999®> uhmm... what is that gibberish meant to be, Caps?
15:49:21 <LETS GO CAPS> The GIP walk, how i have missed that ... back and forth between the cage and the gip
15:49:55 <Eric> First entry ever for The GIP on GT
15:49:55 <LETS GO CAPS> well i think i will see if theres anything worth watching on TV tonight
15:50:24 <LETS GO CAPS> i think i can find some RED to watch
15:50:28 <LETS GO CAPS> goodnight
15:50:34 <ynpvisitor999®> night
15:50:38 <Kevin L™> Good luck
15:50:49 <Kevin L™> Have a good Knight.
15:52:24 <ynpvisitor999®> it's now officially red/warning
15:52:42 <Eric> night
15:52:47 <Eric> Thanks DG
15:54:01 <ynpvisitor999®> I had never thought I'd be seeing a red warning for Kilauea
15:54:35 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
15:59:31 <ynpvisitor33> Really weird seeing The GIP in GT
16:16:15 <ynpvisitor36> Red warning for aircraft.
16:17:20 <ynpvisitor36> Ah, red for the volcano too!
16:22:23 <Kevin L™> Wow. The Amtrak Southwest Chief is running 4h57m late right now. Glad I am not on that one!
16:33:26 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm calling it a day for now. There's some Wicked Tuna waiting for me
16:34:31 <Kevin L™> Crab fishing tonight too.
16:37:31 <Kevin L™> Castle.
16:43:17 <ynpvisitor34> What is the GIP?
16:45:11 <ynpvisitor73> Giant Inidcator Pool?
16:45:37 <ynpvisitor30> yes
16:46:07 <ynpvisitor30> its a pool just by the boardwalk between the corner by grotto and the cage in the trees
16:47:22 <ynpvisitor34> Thank you. Totally forgot what it stood for.
16:53:07 <ynpvisitor36> Looks like Castle is maj
17:43:11 <kcmule> lion
17:43:23 <Kevin L™> ini
17:48:30 <ynpvisitor33> LC
18:27:53 <Kevin L™> Not too often do you see a 4 on 3 in hockey.
18:33:45 <Kevin L™> Don't think Graham is happy.
18:56:13 <kcmule> road teams 3/4 so far
18:58:43 <ynpvisitor33> BH splashing
18:58:49 <ynpvisitor33> also Lion
19:36:49 <ynpvisitor72> OF 2135
19:39:19 <Kevin L™> Cam is stressing on this one.
19:43:31 <ynpvisitor72> INDY
19:43:36 <ynpvisitor72> .
19:43:38 <ynpvisitor72> ,
19:43:42 <ynpvisitor72> ,
19:44:24 <ynpvisitor33> anyone else having a lot of lag?
19:45:08 <Kevin L™> Yes. Mine has been slowing. Reset will catch it up.
19:45:21 <ynpvisitor72> thanks Kevin
19:46:02 <Steph> Got the text! Thanks!
19:46:29 <Kevin L™> Steam in Grotto area.
19:49:35 <ynpvisitor76> lag here definitely.
19:49:44 <ynpvisitor33> lots of steam in grotto area
19:50:01 <sparekitty> and thanks much to whomever sends out the text alerts!
19:51:37 <ynpvisitor33> BH
19:52:01 <ynpvisitor33> 2151
19:52:56 <ynpvisitor72> nice
19:53:20 <Kevin L™> At least it beat the dark.
19:53:39 <ynpvisitor72> Yes!
19:56:57 <Kevin L™> Nice way to end the night. Pretty eruption.
19:57:14 <sparekitty> good night all.
19:57:26 <Kevin L™> Good Knight.
19:57:30 <Steph> Bye! :)
20:04:33 <ynpvisitor72> Lion 2203