Showing logs for date: 2018-06-13
00:15:36 <ynpvisitor17> Looks like BH may be ie
00:16:21 <ynpvisitor55> bh was 0011. GT is updating so it will take a while to post
00:19:03 <ynpvisitor17> Nice it looked like it. Did you notice an Indy?
00:19:43 <ynpvisitor17> 11m off gt prediction. Not bad.
00:20:20 <ynpvisitor17> Just got th Indy on gt.
06:24:33 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm one step closer to Yellowstone: I've received the message I passed my exams about two hours ago :)
06:25:14 <ynpvisitor999®> Also Lion trying
06:53:23 <ynpvisitor999®> Giant???
06:53:48 <ynpvisitor999®> Rocket seems more likely
06:54:42 <ynpvisitor999®> especially when it's 31°F
07:02:06 <ynpvisitor999®> BA
07:02:14 <ynpvisitor999®> LA too
07:09:34 <ynpvisitor999®> that seemed to be a good boil from Giantess a few minutes ago
07:10:50 <Betty> aftenoon DG, hi all
07:11:57 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Betty
07:16:34 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone and congrats DG!
07:17:10 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks Dave :)
07:17:24 <Betty> morning Dave.
07:17:47 <Betty> congrats DG, I did not read that before :-) cool
07:18:01 <ynpvisitor999®> morning to you too, Dave
07:18:10 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks Betty :)
07:18:11 <Dave from B™> Hi, Betty...woohoo World Cup coming to US
07:18:25 <ynpvisitor999®> nice
07:18:30 <Betty> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! congrats to you too
07:18:45 <ynpvisitor999®> Hopefully the Dutchies will be there again then
07:19:08 <Dave from B™> The whole family needs to start saving money because we are going to a couple games
07:19:13 <Dave from B™> I hope so, too DG
07:19:28 <Dave from B™> Not sure I'm a fan of 48 teams instead of 32
07:19:48 <Betty> could be a goal for you, DG: first time to Yellowstone, and combine the visit with watching your team vs US team :-)
07:20:47 <ynpvisitor999®> Possibly, though I first have to know whether or not the Netherlands make it into the WC
07:21:10 <Betty> c´mon, thnk positive
07:21:59 <Dave from B™> I wasn't excited to see the mid cycle BHI last night
07:22:18 <Betty> what are your plans now you are done with school?
07:23:01 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't have plans for the holiday at the moment
07:23:15 <ynpvisitor999®> though afterward I'm going to study IT
07:23:36 <ynpvisitor999®> with which I'll be busy with for four years
07:23:50 <Betty> a semester abroad could bring you to US maybe sooner
07:24:38 <Betty> would be a great opportunity
07:24:59 <Betty> and looks great in your vita
07:25:00 <ynpvisitor999®> I really hope so, maybe near Wyoming (preferably close to Yellowstone) so that I can go to the park when I have a few days off
07:25:12 <Betty> :-)
07:26:01 <ynpvisitor999®> We'll see. I'll definitely let you know when solid plans for that have been made
07:26:12 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Stephen
07:26:26 <Stephen G.> Morning 999
07:26:31 <Betty> hi Stephen
07:26:31 <Dave from B™> I'm not sure what their IT program is like but Montana State University in Bozeman is the closest large university to YNP. The school has 15,000 students as is a good school
07:26:46 <Stephen G.> Hey Betty
07:27:49 <Stephen G.> In regards to the World Cup, very excited to see it's coming back to the United States! However, I don't think I'm a fan of the 48 teams.
07:28:47 <Betty> 48 teams is absurd
07:28:53 <ynpvisitor999®> what would be nice too if I have the option to go to the northern island of New Zealand, as geysers exist there too. Maybe I can get some times off of Pohutu and Prince of Wales Feathers geysers
07:29:53 <Dave from B™> 2 pool games is not enough to recover from a mistake and 32 in knockout round is too many
07:29:57 <ynpvisitor999®> El Tatio in Chile would be an option too, as well as Kenya, Iceland and Kamchatka. Maybe Andernach too for the largest (man-made) cold-water geyser in the world
07:31:54 <Betty> don´t forget "the brubble" in Wallenborn, Eifel. close to you
07:32:47 <Stephen G.> I agree. It also takes out any drama in the qualifying campaign as well. I mean, teams like the Netherlands, USA, Italy, and Chile would all easily be in with 48 teams. The established countries will never miss a World Cup (or even be in danger of missing a World Cup) again. In addition to only 2 pool games, there won't be any pool games between good teams anymore either.
07:33:44 <Dave from B™> Yep....greed over quality seems to win everytime
07:33:49 <Betty> OF
07:34:07 <Betty> oops, no
07:35:53 <ynpvisitor999®> R'side
07:35:56 <Betty> Riverside
07:36:53 <ynpvisitor999®> Italy has some hot springs too, though most, if not all, have been altered by humans
07:38:05 <Betty> you need to go to Phlegraean Fields in Naples
07:42:24 <Betty> looks better now with OF
07:44:22 <ynpvisitor999®> Phlegraean Fields/Campi Flegrei sounds interesting too, Betty
07:45:05 <ynpvisitor999®> and dangerous, too, seen the activity there
07:47:48 <Betty> Last year a family died there due to toxic gases. they tried to get their young son, who went into of a closed area
07:48:28 <Betty> delete the "of"
07:49:53 <Betty> time to get my car back from car repair :-p
07:50:50 <Dave from B™> Hopefully it is not too costly
07:51:08 <Betty> 1000 bugs :-(
07:51:18 <Dave from B™> ouch
07:51:55 <Betty> and just because it sounded strange
07:59:40 <Dave from B™> Morning Jimbo
07:59:51 <Jimbo Curium> Hi Dave
08:00:33 <Jimbo Curium> Here's an article about the Phlegraean fields tragedy last year: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-italy-volcan-deaths-20170912-story.html
08:01:20 <Jimbo Curium> Better article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/09/12/an-11-year-old-boy-fell-into-an-italian-volcanic-crater-his-parents-also-died-trying-to-save-him/
08:03:31 <Dave from B™> The sad part is the 7 year old survived and will have to deal with the heartbreak of that day the rest of his life.
08:03:49 <Jimbo Curium> Yeah, that's very tough
08:25:46 <Dave from B™> Daisy ie
08:40:08 <Bill> Morning!
08:41:14 <Dave from B™> Morning Bill
08:54:05 <Dave from B™> Morning Kevin
09:01:28 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Kevin and Jake
09:03:19 <Jake> hiya
09:04:18 <Kevin L™> Morning
09:07:47 <Jimbo Lead> Darned radioactive decay!
09:08:01 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Jimbo
09:11:24 <Jake> lead has radioactive decay?
09:11:36 <Jimbo Lead> Hi 999 - I was Curium earlier today
09:12:08 <Jake> oohhh
09:12:14 <Kevin L™> Heading out to drop my car off for repair. :P bbl
09:12:30 <ynpvisitor999®> your car too?
09:12:45 <Jake> wikipedia has this on lead isotopes: "their predicted half-lives range from 10^35 to 10^189 years"
09:13:01 <Jake> so you're around for, uh, a good while
09:13:26 <Jake> OF
09:35:16 <Bill> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HWMHC-olItRLow6F6df0byxuoRphRcuy
09:36:01 <Bill> new data dump for: Steamboat, Steam Valve, Spouter, Oblong, Features above Steamboat, Echinus, Cistern, Aurum
09:36:12 <ynpvisitor999®> nice
09:36:44 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm particularly interested in Oblong this time, to see if it had any eruptions in the past week(s)
09:38:31 <ynpvisitor999®> by the way, Bill, are there any plans for a visit to The Gap in Norris soon? I wonder what activity is like there now and if there could be a possible connection with Echinus/SB/Emerad Pool
09:39:10 <Bill> The Gap?
09:40:41 <Jake> thanks, Bill!
09:40:47 <ynpvisitor999®> two secs please, slow google maps
09:43:53 <ynpvisitor999®> stil trying to find it...
09:44:25 <ynpvisitor999®> In this PDF is The Gap highlighted: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vsc/file_mngr/file-26/SheanYellSciFall06.pdf
09:46:46 <Bill> Interesting. Can't say I've been back there. I'll do a little poking around and maybe do a recon trip
09:47:18 <ynpvisitor999®> if I recall correctly, that area became more active when Echinus fell near-dormant
09:48:49 <ynpvisitor52> Oblong isn't erupting these days, right?
09:49:23 <ynpvisitor999®> no, 52, or they happen unnoticed
09:50:16 <ynpvisitor999®> so if there are changes in The Gap since SB became more active, it may be some kind of proof a connection exists between SB and Echinus
09:50:28 <ynpvisitor999®> (and the Gap, obviously)
09:52:10 <Eric> Hey, Bill...super appreciate all of the data, but when exported to csv can we keep the temperature scale the same between exports? I could probably do the conversions easy enough, but makes it a little easier to digest these when consistent.
09:59:03 <ynpvisitor999®> Oblong amazingly had one eruption according to the data: on April 23 @ 0243:56
10:00:37 <ynpvisitor999®> the rest of the spikes are ambient temperature fluctuations, more specifically day-night
10:02:19 <Jake> Oblong can have "hidden" eruption spikes because the sensor is so far away from the vent. Especially in winter when the sensor has ice covering it, some eruptions have just enough water to melt the ice and warm the sensor a degree or two
10:02:39 <ynpvisitor999®> right
10:05:25 <ynpvisitor999®> morning kcmule
10:06:08 <kcmule> hi 999 et al
10:06:18 <Eric> So looke like cistern overflow started on 6/7 @ 10:10
10:08:45 <Eric> So 3 days, 14 hours, 56 minutes between cistern fill and eruption
10:09:15 <Eric> Previous one was 4d4h I believe
10:10:17 <Dave from B™> You have a prediction for me, Eric?:)
10:10:46 <Eric> So a 14h window right now...but we haven't seen what the duration is during a really long steamboat interval
10:11:33 <Eric> I would still stick with interval average if you want to minimize your sit and maximize your chance :-D
10:11:44 <Eric> for the shortest sit.
10:14:10 <ynpvisitor999®> the 0904 eruption of SB on June 4 had a duration of 30 minutes and following interval was only 6½ days appx.
10:14:24 <ynpvisitor999®> and that SB had a duration of 19m
10:15:09 <ynpvisitor23> At this point, all signs point to a "Steamboat Watch" starting some time Saturday, through Monday again. Watch for reports on Steamboat minors and relative strength. With water back in today, "Watch" could start as early as Friday...
10:17:11 <Dave from B™> Thanks, 23. My interest has peaked again
10:20:48 <Bill> Is it full already?
10:20:59 <Bill> (Cistern)
10:22:24 <Dave from B™> Yep full re GT report by CB this morning
10:22:30 <Jake> yes, a note in GT as of ~0800 this morning
10:23:30 <Dave from B™> It's not out of the question for Steamboat to shorten its interval. F&M and Giant can do that during their active phases
10:25:07 <ynpvisitor70> much more likely historically for SB to lengthen or stop than shorten
10:26:27 <ynpvisitor52> shortest on record is 4 days, so it could still just be getting organized
10:27:36 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm already more than happy it has been erupting about once a week
10:28:41 <ynpvisitor999®> and in a stable manner too, for a geyser this large and infrequent
10:29:55 <ynpvisitor52> wouldn't have ever guessed this would happen!
10:30:48 <ynpvisitor999®> nor me, but I still hoped it would some day, and so it did
10:32:11 <ynpvisitor52> so I guess Echinus last fall was a good sign for life in that area?
10:32:11 <Dave from B™> 1982 had 2 intervals under 5 days
10:33:30 <ynpvisitor999®> Maybe there's some kind of pattern in the activity, too. Between, for example the 60s active phase and the next one in the 80s, 20 years passed. Same goes for between 80s phase and the 2000s-ish activity. ~15 years have passed before it became more active again since 2003
10:35:12 <Jake> hmmm, this talk had me thinking of going on Sunday then I looked at the forecast: 90% rain
10:35:16 <Bill> That was a quick refill. I just took some pictures yesterday of it really low.
10:35:21 <Dave from B™> It takes a long time to "repair" the plumbing of Steamboat
10:36:21 <ynpvisitor999®> As for the 50 year interval between 1911 and 1961, maybe SB took its time to repair and strengthen plumbing
10:36:21 <Jake> that's one theory
10:36:44 <Jake> Morning also has the "every 20 years" active thing
10:37:06 <ynpvisitor52> Ledge and Morning were 19 years hiatus if I recall
10:37:13 <Jake> but to declare it the primary driver of Steamboat activity means ignoring all the in-between eruptions
10:37:47 <ynpvisitor52> where did the "repair" theory come from/
10:38:22 <Jake> Dave's a** straight to his keyboard!
10:39:00 <Dave from B™> 52, it is not a theory but it does do damage to its plumbing when it erupts....rocks are flying everywhere
10:39:27 <Dave from B™> not a proven theory anyway
10:39:28 <Jake> it would be cool to leave the seismo grid around Steamboat to see if the signals change in a way suggesting chamber shifts
10:39:40 <Jake> with each eruption
10:39:48 <ynpvisitor999®> I find it remarkable quite some geysers have something with 20 in it - for example ~20m Turban cycles, ~20 years of low activity for SB and Morning, ~20m Grotto Fountain and Indicator cycle (I wonder if that's still a thing now), ~20m water phase for Castle before steam phase.
10:39:58 <Jake> they may not give enough resolution to see <1 meter changes
10:40:51 <ynpvisitor999®> (that 20 thing is something entirely coincidental I think, though)
10:41:57 <Jake> I think so
10:42:00 <Kevin L™> West gate is :P
10:42:31 <Dave from B™> FYI, Glacier also set a record for May visitation
10:42:59 <Jake> without a Steamboat-like phenomenon
10:43:46 <Jake> any indication if it's tour bus or baby boomer driven?
10:44:58 <Jake> I think Yellowstone has both. It seems like I more often see Yellowstone coupled with the great western parks in a tour from Yosemite, Death Valley, through Utah, ending in YNP. and Glacier is left out
10:45:28 <ynpvisitor52> Dave from B™, that gets into the two arguments about secondary water vs runoff. How many flying rocks came from uphill vs came from deep in the vent
10:46:01 <Jake> that's why we need to BUILD THE WALL upslope of the N vent to end this argument!
10:46:27 <ynpvisitor52> a good use of funds! put that on a ballcap!
10:46:56 <Eric> MSGA
10:47:22 <Dave from B™> 52, that is a good point. I do wonder where Steamboat gets all the water it needs for an eruption
10:47:33 <Eric> The ground dave!
10:47:47 <Eric> Lighting on kilauea cam is pretty awesome
10:47:53 <Dave from B™> insert eyeroll
10:48:05 <Jake> where is the drumshot emoji?
10:48:49 <Eric> would be interesting to know how deep the SB aquifers are.
10:49:21 <ynpvisitor999®> put a camera in its vent :)
10:50:16 <ynpvisitor112> Bill, DG has a job for you!
10:50:42 <Jake> ooh, why didn't I think of that? this really is an unprecedented opportunity, seriously!
10:51:25 <ynpvisitor52> stand by the vent and take water samples when the brown water starts
10:51:46 <Eric> just drop a gopro session down the vent and watch it fly through the air :-P
10:51:47 <Kevin L™> Get GoPro® to sponsor it! If it can stand up to this, it can stand up to anything!
10:51:52 <ynpvisitor999®> best chance to do put a camera in the vent would be tomorrow (or today, once SB has calmed)
10:52:16 <ynpvisitor999®> remove 'do' in that sentence
10:52:36 <Eric> other than the vents are already probably shooting water
10:52:57 <Dave from B™> C'mon you guys...we just got have a new friend (Bill). Let's not put him in danger so soon!:D
10:53:05 <ynpvisitor999®> good point
10:53:10 <Jake> best time to do it is ~24 hours after the eruption when everything is quiet and cistern is out of sight
10:53:40 <Stephen G.> I think the vents are shooting water - at least the North Vent has some water in it now, according to CB.
10:53:57 <ynpvisitor999®> why didn't we came up with this earlier? :D
10:57:56 <Jake> Eric, are you capturing and saving prices with your Xanterra searches? I saw an article that they're now allowed to explore dynamic pricing so I'm really curious how that plays out
10:58:54 <Kevin L™> Dynamic pricing = Higher rates.
10:59:20 <Dave from B™> Exactly Kevin
10:59:37 <Dave from B™> Monopoly at its worst
11:00:30 <Jake> most of the time, yes. I think the article said they can't go over 30% from some threshold. Some of their rooms don't fill though or didn't a few years ago when I was there. Like the $400 suites at Lake so it might make sense to cut those prices at times
11:02:07 <Dave from B™> That still makes an over priced $200 room go to $260
11:03:28 <Jake> "over priced" meaning the price for the accommodation quality...
11:04:15 <Jake> it's tricky because the NPS gets a cut of revenue and in the age of declining budgets, it's hard to resist
11:04:37 <Jake> leaving money on the table if the demand is there
11:05:07 <Jake> poor people be damned, tax payers be damned, etc
11:05:29 <Kevin L™> Then why do they pay to have bison slaughtered when they could sell hunting tags for $5000 each?
11:05:52 <Jake> Daisy
11:08:10 <ynpvisitor1> Kevin, because the government is in charge, they have no idea how to make money, just spend it. That they do very well.
11:08:17 <Jake> the politics/optics of the situation make that solution easier?
11:09:14 <Jake> thank god you can still camp in Yellowstone for ~$20, some of the USFS campgrounds around SLC are $45
11:09:18 <ynpvisitor1> You can not complain about the crowds and ask for cheep accommodations in the same argument.
11:09:22 <Jake> so, camp while you can
11:09:38 <Kevin L™> That is what frustrated me working for the government. I hate the waste. At least I can say my section ran like a business and I gave taxpayers their money's worth.
11:10:38 <Kevin L™> At least we have land by Zion so my Grandkids will be able to stay by the park and see it.
11:11:08 <ynpvisitor1> Camping in the park is still a relative deal, just look at the Black Hills. You pay more for a basic forest service campground then at Madison.
11:12:05 <ynpvisitor1> Only if you get a landowner tag for entry. I read someone say they are looking at entry by lottery or permit.
11:12:59 <ynpvisitor1> Zion is over rated in my opinion.
11:12:59 <Kevin L™> Yes they are. You may have to get reservations just to get into a park soon.
11:13:25 <Kevin L™> Hey, my family used to OWN Zion!
11:14:14 <ynpvisitor1> Too bad you gave it up. Just think of the cash you would be rolling in if you operated it.
11:15:36 <Kevin L™> The land we have is part of the land that was given in exchange for the park. Much of the old stone work there was done by my relatives.
11:16:14 <ynpvisitor1> Zion is purty, just not worth the hassle. Bad Lands is just as purty, and no hassle, because they only see a fraction of the people.
11:16:38 <Eric> Jake, I am not capturing any price data...but I highly doubt xanterra is organized enough yet to do any dynamic pricing. I bet it will take them a year or two to figure out how to handle that.
11:17:07 <Eric> Again, a modern reservation system could easily handle demand based pricing
11:17:13 <Kevin L™> One of the most fun hikes I ever did was to go up to the northeast side of the park and walk down from there through the Narrows.
11:17:17 <Art> Don't speak so soon ;)
11:17:19 <Art> "Our online reservation system is undergoing maintenance and is not accessible at this time. For reservation information, please call us at 1-307-344-7311 between the hours of 8:00am and 5:00pm MST. Thank you for your patience and understanding."
11:17:58 <Eric> Meh, they are probably just updating their privacy policies...late but they still have to do it :-P
11:18:19 <Eric> GDPR calls
11:18:51 <Art> I wonder who the first company to get sued will be under GDPR
11:19:40 <ynpvisitor1> Dynamic pricing for the park would be raise all the prices 30%, and if the room does not sell, discount it.
11:19:45 <ynpvisitor52> They don't h ave 24/7 operators?
11:20:15 <Eric> Keep raising prices until not at 100% capacity.
11:21:10 <Art> Well glad I got to go to the park before it was inaccessible except for day trips and the uber wealthy ;)
11:21:26 <Kevin L™> Me too.
11:22:26 <Kevin L™> When youy could go to White Creek, Pocket Basin, and stand next to the cone of Artemesia.
11:23:19 <ynpvisitor1> A hotel on the side of the road is getting close to or over 100 bucks. So a room in the park for 200 is a deal.
11:23:56 <ynpvisitor1> It is not like they can build one in Tennessee!
11:24:25 <Art> Hawaii cam looks like Mordor today
11:24:29 <ynpvisitor1> If you think Yellowstone is expensive, check out disney land.
11:24:44 <ynpvisitor1> Or go to a state fair.
11:24:57 <Kevin L™> Disneyland is a joke. :P
11:25:16 <ynpvisitor1> Disney land was fun.
11:25:45 <Kevin L™> I used to be able to get an all day pass there for $8. Now I need a 2nd mortgage!
11:26:16 <ynpvisitor1> Back when you bought a pack of tickets, and people knew what you meant when you said "E ticket Ride".
11:26:51 <Kevin L™> Yes. I still have some of those somewhere!
11:27:47 <Kevin L™> Amazing how that phrase has stayed in even though most people don't know what it means.
11:28:16 <Dave from B™> Lodging is much cheaper around Disneyland than YNP
11:29:01 <ynpvisitor1> Lots more lodging around disney land then around YNP. What about staying at 'the' hotel?
11:29:09 <Kevin L™> Yes it is - and better too!
11:29:37 <Art> You can't really compare all inclusive resort hotels with a room with a bed
11:30:10 <Kevin L™> Grand
11:30:25 <Art> It seems like an Apple to Oranges comparison, in my opinion.
11:30:27 <ynpvisitor1> Disney land hotel starts at $418.
11:31:00 <ynpvisitor1> You can not compare the experience either.
11:32:05 <Kevin L™> I think the "Hotel" is about $400 a night, other hotels are about $120 to $250.
11:32:26 <ynpvisitor1> If a room with a bed is 200, you can get a room with a bed, kitchen, and bath of less and camp.
11:32:31 <Dave from B™> We need to figure out a way to discourage foreign bus tours...then we would be fine:)
11:32:52 <ynpvisitor1> Put a tarrif on them.
11:33:16 <Kevin L™> Tax them! The government should know how to do that!
11:33:36 <ynpvisitor1> Limit visas
11:33:58 <Kevin L™> Mastercard only?
11:34:11 <ynpvisitor1> American Express!
11:34:30 <Kevin L™> I like it.
11:34:43 <ynpvisitor1> Take their camera away
11:35:06 <Dave from B™> I wonder how many tourists coming to World Cup in 2016 will want to see our Western Parks
11:35:11 <Dave from B™> 2026*
11:35:15 <ynpvisitor1> Betty may not like any of these suggestions
11:35:26 <Dave from B™> Betty doesn't ride a tour bus
11:35:27 <Kevin L™> Or DG
11:35:41 <ynpvisitor33> Why is cam so far from Grand?
11:35:56 <ynpvisitor1> That is where they put it
11:36:07 <ynpvisitor1> The evil sister rules
11:36:13 <ynpvisitor33> No cam op?
11:36:20 <ynpvisitor1> Or that
11:36:29 <Dave from B™> 33, OF rules...can't zoom away from OF when its ready to go
11:36:46 <Dave from B™> sorry, not in its window
11:36:49 <ynpvisitor1> Not enough people for OF time
11:37:37 <ynpvisitor1> Well, got to go. Hope the next #1 has better things to say.
11:38:01 <ynpvisitor33> Me too
11:38:25 <Kevin L™> Later
11:39:15 <Kevin L™> 2nd
11:39:54 <Eric> boom
11:40:22 <Eric> Nice 2nd!
11:40:31 <Kevin L™> 5.3 eq at Kilauea listed as volcanic eruption today
11:41:15 <Kevin L™> Why can't Grand do a 2b on my days?
11:42:39 <ynpvisitor33> Why isn’t this your day? Then we would have been close up
11:43:15 <ynpvisitor33> Consecutive 2 bursts, encouraging
11:43:57 <ynpvisitor33> And Kevin, check out West Entrance, summer crowds are here now
11:52:36 <Kevin L™> I do have to take a few days off. Need to get some things done around the house.
11:53:22 <Kevin L™> Not happy with that West gate.
11:56:22 <Jake> time for lunch, glad we solved all the Yellowstone problems again today, people!
11:57:53 <Dave from B™> C'mon, Jake....no groundbreaking ideas from you today?:)
11:59:08 <Kevin L™> Eric, what is AVC video?
12:00:16 <Eric> It's an encoding scheme used within a lot of digital cameras
12:01:01 <Kevin L™> Is it something that most computers can read?
12:01:26 <Eric> Yes, it's most likely an mp4 video file
12:01:40 <Eric> does the file have an extension on it?
12:03:22 <Kevin L™> I am not sure. Trying to do a file of my kids race video and mpeg-4 is a big file.
12:03:54 <Kevin L™> Trying to do Nero is a chore. "We know how it runs so you should too!". :p
12:05:18 <Eric> haha....just think HP calculators Kevin :-P
12:06:41 <Eric> RPN
12:07:08 <Rice> I loved my HP calculator, I was not worried about any body stealing it.
12:07:17 <Kevin L™> Love RPN. Wish they still made the old style HP.
12:08:15 <Eric> Nobody at north entrance
12:08:17 <Kevin L™> I like to give one to the young computer techies and tell them to add two plus two. Lots of laughs.
12:08:22 <Rice> Did RPN, really stand for Reverse Polish Notation?
12:08:31 <Eric> Yep
12:08:32 <Kevin L™> Yes it did.
12:09:06 <Rice> I always though that was slang, but still makes me laugh.
12:09:23 <Kevin L™> If you ever have drive I-515 in Vegas, that route was designed using HP-25 and HP-41C calculators.
12:09:41 <Rice> Does know what RPN stands for Date us a little, :)
12:10:00 <Eric> Nope....RPN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation
12:11:07 <Eric> complements of logician Jan Łukasiewicz
12:11:27 <Kevin L™> Once you get used to it you can't live without it.
12:11:53 <Kevin L™> I have an RPN simulator for my computer and iPad.
12:12:07 <Eric> I have my HP48 next to my desk :-P
12:12:37 <Eric> Well, buried in all the rest of the junk on my desk....
12:13:06 <Rice> After my HP broke, I was so lost
12:13:34 <Kevin L™> Eric, can I send you this video file and have you see if it works?
12:13:54 <Kevin L™> The used HP cost more than they did new!
12:14:46 <Kevin L™> Here you are Rice: http://hp15c.com/
12:16:39 <Eric> Sure kevin
12:17:25 <Kevin L™> Thanks. Just sent it.
12:22:08 <Rice> Kevin: Downloaded the App, I still remeber how to work it. 4 Enter, 5 X, wow that brings me back to a long time ago.......
12:25:32 <Eric> Your video file is corrupted Kevin...have him resend
12:26:26 <Eric> looks like it is the start of a video file
12:31:06 <Kevin L™> It runs on mine so I suspect it may be corrupted in the email. Let me try again.
12:42:46 <Kevin L™> They just rand a retro ad for the 1966 Mustang. I remember drooling over that car as a kid. Still would like one!
12:42:56 <Kevin L™> Aurum
12:42:57 <Kevin L™> .
12:42:58 <Kevin L™> .
12:42:58 <Kevin L™> .
12:42:59 <Kevin L™> .
12:47:53 <Eric> Yep, 2nd try worked kevin :-D
12:51:00 <Kevin L™> Gives new meaning to taking a spin around the track!
12:56:49 <Eric> Yep....nice swirl with the car :-D
12:57:54 <Kevin L™> That comes from having steel plates for the back tires!
13:04:57 <Kevin L™> West gate is clear.
13:05:13 <Kevin L™> Sent you lap 1 Eric.
13:06:38 <Eric> thanks...it got about 15 seconds past the spin
13:06:45 <Eric> don't think it was a full lap
13:10:20 <Kevin L™> It should be about 50 seconds and starts with a green flag.
13:11:17 <ynpvisitor18> Clear by 1300, going to be a long season
13:11:32 <ynpvisitor18> and though the cars are through, they may be in an epic jam right now
13:12:43 <Art> Having that data on gate waits was helpful, allowed us to sneak out to West grab lunch and had back without any headaches
13:14:50 <Kevin L™> It is very nice.
13:15:42 <Eric> You sent a 24second video :-D
13:15:50 <ynpvisitor999©> Afternoon all. This is me from a new laptop :)
13:16:11 <Eric> Congrats DG
13:16:19 <Kevin L™> Hmmm. That is strange Eric.
13:17:38 <ynpvisitor13> Here for an early lunch BH.
13:18:24 <Kevin L™> Sent another version Eric
13:18:35 <Kevin L™> Yes, Congrats DG
13:23:33 <Kevin L™> I didn't quit, I retired. Dumb software!
13:23:39 <Eric> what a crazy sport!
13:26:04 <Kevin L™> They are fun to watch.
13:46:50 <Kevin L™> Daisy
13:48:30 <ynpvisitor13> Close, I want BH
13:50:22 <Dave from B™> 13, it's almost time
13:50:35 <Kevin L™> Light the fuse!
13:50:53 <Kevin L™> Wrong one!
13:50:53 <ynpvisitor114> fluffy
13:50:59 <Rice> Some tell the Ranger to go push the button.
13:51:53 <Rice> Ever wonder how many videos are taken in a year of old faithful?
13:52:30 <ynpvisitor114> no. I just wonder how many good videos are taken of Old Faithful
13:52:42 <Rice> Ok, good point!
13:54:41 <Rice> 4 million visitors, most go see OF, so even if 1/4 take a video on thier phone, that is 1 mil videos each year.
13:55:24 <Kevin L™> How many end up on YouTube?
13:58:24 <ynpvisitor13> 4 million people go to the park, my guess is only 1800 get to go take flags down. No, I am not posting pictures on the net. They are priceless.
13:59:01 <Kevin L™> That does have to be an experience.
14:00:01 <ynpvisitor13> I think I have that wrong, maybe only 1200. Days lodge is open times 8.
14:00:14 <ynpvisitor13> give or take
14:04:22 <ynpvisitor13> If you do it, the best picture to take of a person is on the landing between the orchestra deck and the crows nest. Unfortunately mine did not come out.
14:08:41 <Eric> switching back to old computer DG?
14:08:43 <ynpvisitor999©> Lion ini
14:09:00 <Eric> I must be super lagged
14:09:04 <ynpvisitor999©> No. Had to install Flash for live stream, rather than HLS
14:09:07 <ynpvisitor13> INDY
14:09:08 <Kevin L™> ,
14:09:09 <Kevin L™> ,
14:09:09 <Kevin L™> ,
14:09:10 <Kevin L™> ,
14:09:10 <Kevin L™> ,
14:09:14 <Dave from B™> woohoo
14:09:19 <Eric> ohh, lion ini now :-P
14:09:20 <ynpvisitor13> Indy ini
14:09:39 <ynpvisitor13> Yep, lion inin is also going
14:09:43 <Eric> ahh, force refresh of stream fixed that
14:09:57 <ynpvisitor13> Maybe not
14:10:00 <Jimbo Lead> Double the fun
14:10:22 <ynpvisitor13> cam is bouncing to mus to tell if LC is going
14:10:38 <ynpvisitor13> I need to reboot my keyboard
14:10:44 <ynpvisitor999©> LC isn't going, 13
14:11:08 <Dave from B™> Hi Kitt!
14:11:13 <Dave from B™> Are you finally home?
14:11:23 <Kitt> yay, a bee before I have to run an errand
14:11:37 <Kitt> I got home Monday morning after Steamboat
14:11:38 <Kevin L™> Nice mid day Bee!
14:11:56 <ynpvisitor999©> I now also have to get used to a full HD screen rather than an HD screen
14:12:00 <Dave from B™> You going back for the next one or skipping a round?
14:12:19 <Kitt> I guess it was actually about 1pm
14:12:27 <Kitt> I go back in the 20th
14:13:32 <Eric> With the rapid cistern fill...I think sunday 6/17 is a reasonable day to hang out at steamboat
14:13:43 <Kitt> for an unplanned trip - 3 Steamboats, 1 F & M & 1 Giant (not bad_
14:13:44 <Dave from B™> I'll be there on the 25th for 6 nights.
14:13:46 <Kevin L™> Hear that Dave?
14:14:03 <Dave from B™> Kevin Kevin Kevin
14:14:14 <Eric> Kitt...you crushed it!
14:14:22 <ynpvisitor13> Your kids should send you there for Fathers Day.
14:14:26 <Eric> How many BH's though
14:14:56 <Kitt> I think I saw about 7
14:14:57 <ynpvisitor999©> hold on there - looks like this is a mid-series Lion. When did the initial happen?
14:15:02 <Kevin L™> Birthday dinner on a camping stove at Norris for your wife...
14:15:25 <Eric> weak ini
14:15:25 <Kevin L™> I haven't seen a Lion today.
14:15:26 <Kitt> but I was so tired that I watched several from the Ham's porch (due to weather) or the overlook
14:15:28 <ynpvisitor13> Steambaot poached fish?
14:15:58 <Eric> Not bad..7 BH in a single trip :-D
14:15:58 <ynpvisitor999©> no, 1410 wc is wrong - should be 1408
14:16:02 <Kevin L™> You are getting old Kitt.
14:16:34 <ynpvisitor999©> corrected it
14:16:47 <Kitt> I put in 41 hours on the platform for the first eruption I saw and 31.5 for the second
14:17:22 <Dave from B™> wow
14:17:23 <Kitt> the 3rd eruption I saw I only was there for about 4 hours
14:18:09 <ynpvisitor13> weeeeeee
14:18:13 <Kitt> I saw one from start, 1 started as I approached Emerald Spring, and the 3rd one Jeff called on the radio and I came over from Norris Campground
14:18:16 <Dave from B™> Did you feel guilty on that 3rd one....That's like a walkup!:D
14:18:20 <Eric> climb
14:18:20 <Kitt> Go Beehive
14:18:47 <Kevin L™> Shower time!
14:18:59 <Kitt> Jeff was the only one there for that start
14:20:03 <Eric> Yep...persistence pays off!
14:20:18 <Eric> Bet it was a lot different at night though!
14:20:30 <Kitt> the rest of us heard his radio calls and drove over from the campground
14:20:30 <Eric> quiet and powerful
14:20:56 <Kitt> at night it is an auditory experience
14:21:17 <Kitt> I heard Steamboat at the campground
14:21:26 <Eric> that is awesome!
14:21:58 <Kitt> It sounds like a giant steam engine about to overtake you
14:22:03 <Stephen G.> I can believe it... Steamboat is LOUD!
14:22:14 <Kitt> you feel percussions
14:22:20 <ynpvisitor999©> LC
14:22:28 <Eric> at night with no car noise....I can just imagine the sound traveling very well.
14:22:29 <Kitt> must be an Emily day
14:22:38 <Kitt> she is in the poncho
14:22:51 <Kevin L™> :)
14:22:55 <ynpvisitor13> Well that was fun. Enjoy more lions.
14:23:01 <Eric> LC
14:23:04 <Kevin L™> LC is ie now.
14:23:09 <Kitt> Very nice Bee
14:23:16 <Kitt> thanks again for the text
14:23:19 <Stephen G.> Good mid-afternoon Beehive!
14:23:23 <Kitt> back to chores
14:23:26 <Eric> enjoy the day everyone
14:23:28 <Kevin L™> yw. Take care Kitt
14:26:20 <Dave from B™> What's the difference between a F&M Normal cycle and Event cycle?
14:28:45 <Craig> Dave, Event Cycle has water in main vent
14:29:21 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Craig
14:38:56 <Betty> hi all
14:39:15 <Craig> Hi Betty!
14:39:31 <Kevin L™> You missed them Betty.
14:40:11 <Betty> hi Craig and Kevin
14:40:22 <Eric> Hi Betty
14:40:30 <Dave from B™> Ni Betty
14:40:36 <Dave from B™> Hi Craig
14:40:58 <Betty> hi Eric and Dave
14:48:55 <Eric> BTW, I just added a note under the Support/Patron link on this page.
14:49:32 <Eric> replicating the park services message about who is contributing for the live webcam and a thank you note to all of the hours that volunteer webcam operators contribute!
14:49:54 <Eric> Horrible sentence there...but you get the idea :-D
14:50:03 <Dave from B™> That's nice, Eric. Thanks!
15:30:15 <Betty> Lion ie
15:33:22 <Graham> hello
15:33:55 <Graham> grabbed the cam for Lion .... sorry if someone else wanted it
15:34:41 <Graham> oooh i see I got blamed for the false indicator yesterday, nice
15:35:17 <Betty> hi Graham
15:37:40 <Graham> I see Micah paid ChrisG to get some Anemone times posted :)
15:45:08 <Dave from B™> Someone beat me to blaming you, Graham? Who was it?:)
15:46:11 <Dave from B™> I love Tara's vocab.....The vent on the south shoulder of the platform that was perpetually sizzling at variable strength in the days prior to the June 9 eruption is gently pulsating today.
15:46:41 <Graham> not sure if that was Phoenix or something else?
15:47:37 <Dave from B™> Time for me to get out of here. Have a great evening everyone!
15:48:01 <Graham> bue Dave
15:48:08 <Betty> enjoy yours Dave
15:53:03 <Eric> That sounds like the one we were watching Graham
15:53:19 <Graham> could be
15:53:42 <Graham> seems so long ago, i need to go back for a refresher
15:57:23 <Betty> headed out, night all
15:57:40 <Graham> night Betty
16:27:41 <ynpvisitor105> Graham, you need to get back to wonderland before September
16:31:51 <Eric> Looks like the BW in front of Old Faithful is about done
16:32:25 <Eric> Benches and finishing touches are probably still left.
16:33:56 <Graham> i know 105 ... but not likely to happen ... going to CO in just over a week
16:39:18 <Graham> that does leave most of July and August tho....
17:14:23 <Kevin L™> DaveM was out today Graham.
17:15:56 <Graham> good for him
17:16:47 <Kevin L™> I did take the cam for BH but was out most of the day so it was on Autopilot.
17:18:50 <Graham> ok, it looked like it was lonely
17:19:08 <Graham> what happened to Daisy?
17:19:34 <Kevin L™> It was.
17:22:43 <Graham> Grand
17:23:10 <Kevin L™> Grand broke it?
17:23:37 <Kevin L™> Had a 4+h Daisy yesterday.
17:33:55 <Kevin L™> Daisy was 4h29m on Monday.
18:43:42 <Kevin L™> Faisy
18:43:49 <Kevin L™> ie
18:45:38 <Graham> 4h57 - single or double?
18:46:39 <Kevin L™> Could be either.
18:47:37 <Kevin L™> Two 2h30m intervals would be odd but a 4h75m interval is also odd.
18:49:39 <Kevin L™> Oh, the parade is toknight not last knight.
18:50:05 <ynpvisitor57> I found the missed daisy it is now in GT
18:50:32 <Kevin L™> Thanks!
18:51:52 <Kevin L™> That makes me feel better. Waiting on a 5h Daisy would not be a good time.
19:20:57 <Kevin L™> Castle
19:28:28 <Kevin L™> Not sure if it was just big splashes or a minor.
19:52:33 <Graham> minor was logged
19:53:53 <Graham> quitting now, goodnight
19:54:24 <Kevin L™> Good Knight
20:07:28 <Kevin L™> OF
20:07:34 <Kevin L™> Nice lighting
21:32:55 <ynpvisitor115> Bat cam. Cool!
21:33:32 <Kevin L™> We need to tilt it.
21:52:30 <Kent> Missed Old Faithful :(