Showing logs for date: 2018-06-14
03:54:05 <Rice> Static Cam, Looks like Mt Wasburn is erupting!
04:11:11 <ynpvisitor23> Grand
05:10:43 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone and F&M
05:12:10 <Joe´> "Heiio Dave"
05:13:15 <Joe´> Hello*
05:16:22 <Joe´> Daisy
05:16:47 <Dave from B™> Joe, how was your trip?
05:20:25 <Joe´> Dave the trip was great, I just missed Giant as I left the basin for Noris Sunday caught many guises in the basin then left for Noris in the afternoon and saw some of the beginnings of steamboat, then on Monday arrived at steamboat about 0610 saw the lower end of the parking lot was wet, steamboat was steaming vigorously some water still coming out, disappointed that I did not stay all night, but
05:21:24 <Dave from B™> It is really hard to stay out all night
05:21:55 <Joe´> Norris, Geysers* fat finger brainless keyboarding :)
05:24:20 <Joe´> Did you go to Steamboat or did you find it erupted before you were leaving?
05:26:32 <Dave from B™> I found out right after I woke up that morning at 345
05:27:27 <Joe´> Ah, I hope you can catch the next one!
05:29:44 <Dave from B™> I'm skipping the next one but my 6 night trip to YNP starts June 25
05:30:33 <Joe´> I hope to try for another steamboat before the end of August, the trip was really hard on my legs I hope they recover enough to go again soon, I ended up using my rolling walker to help me get down the trails
05:35:44 <Joe´> It's a good thing the distance to steamboat is only a quarter of a mile, I had worn myself out on the Castle in Grand boardwalks, so three trips down the steamboat trails were doable since it was such a short distance.
05:36:21 <Joe´> in = and
05:37:29 <Dave from B™> On our 6 night trip to OF, we usually average 8-12 miles a can be exhausting
05:38:08 <Dave from B™> If we have our bikes, then it is usually half that
05:39:07 <Joe´> A few years ago I enjoyed walking all over the basin, many miles a day, but since my knees went bad it has gotten a little tougher.
05:40:02 <Dave from B™> It makes it tough. I've told my wife, if I can't walk, she's pushing me in a wheelchair:)
05:40:08 <Joe´> I may have to see if I can get one of those handicap electric trikes or something extremely portable to help me get down the trails
05:40:37 <J. Flerovium> First time for element 114 (hi Dave)
05:41:33 <Joe´> I did notice they had wheelchairs at the VEC, and I should have borrowed one but I thought I could do okay
05:42:51 <Joe´> I think a wheelchair would also work good at Norris, just have to be careful on the uneven dirt part
05:43:11 <Dave from B™> Morning Jimbo
05:47:24 <Dave from B™> Morning Kevin
05:47:59 <Dave from B™> For those of you keeping score from our guess the order of the big 3....DG and I are the only ones who picked F&M to go first:)
05:51:28 <Kevin L™> Morning Dave
05:51:59 <J. Flerovium> 4 AM - sure not being nice to casual visitors!
05:52:01 <Joe´> To see F&M erupt this morning on camera, and even nicer to see it confirmed by SteveO
05:53:32 <Dave from B™> If it could have waited 1 more hour
05:55:03 <Dave from B™> Now, if only Giant would shorten its interval
06:06:12 <Dave from B™> Good morning Bill
06:06:25 <Bill> Morning!
06:07:46 <Dave from B™> Anything exciting with your job this week?
06:09:38 <Bill> Every week! Exciting to me is a bit different though. I'm working on some back end nerd stuff for creating and maintaining our various databases. This way we can have field personnel go into the field and do things, and have that data update the main database
06:10:28 <Bill> it'll also allow multiple people to add data, create an automatic archive of older data we overwrite, and automatically back up the database every set interval.
06:11:01 <Bill> We're going to clean up Mammoth terraces today at some point. On friday I'm off with a USGS gentleman to go check on some GPS stations.
06:25:56 <Dave from B™> That is all exciting Bill. A great mix of office and field work
06:28:21 <ynpvisitor90> very handy that you know how to do the "back end nerd stuff"
06:34:38 <Dave from B™> Bill, have you done much work in the Kaliedoscope area of LGB? From FB posts there seems to be some new things erupting out there.
06:35:09 <Bill> Not a ton. I've replaced some of our loggers, but that's about it.
07:50:56 <Dave from B™> Happy Flag day to everyone!
08:09:54 <Kevin L™> Daisy
08:09:55 <Joe´> DAISY
08:16:49 <ynpvisitor35> Well nothing to see here. Enjoy the lions. And possible congratulations to those that had F&M first.
08:17:41 <Kevin L™> No Aurum yet today.
08:27:08 <Jimbo Cadmium> No cam, tried refreshing the browser, no luck
08:27:34 <Dave from B™> I have streaming
08:27:35 <Joe´> works here
08:27:54 <Kevin L™> here too
08:28:08 <Kevin L™> enable flash?
08:28:14 <ynpvisitor90> it's a conspiracy - selective blackouts
08:28:18 <Jimbo Cadmium> Thx, think it's my network. NPS streaming is intermittent
08:29:29 <Jake> the beginning of net neutrality: "this content is not available in your area. please subscribe."
08:29:45 <Jake> or non-net neutrality I should say
08:29:46 <Jimbo Cadmium> Well, now NPS streaming is fine
08:41:12 <Eric> Yep, crazy to think that now the people you pay for internet can charge you different based on what content you want to see!
08:42:25 <Eric> Will be interesting to see how it's handled and if the internet becomes a nightmare to use.
08:51:56 <Kevin L™> If something cannot possibly be screwed up, give it to the government and a utility company and they will do it.
09:05:38 <ynpvisitor27> No line at West Gate today. So crazy how that flow changes day to day.
09:06:08 <Kevin L™> There was a huge line from about 0800 to 1000
09:06:49 <ynpvisitor27> Yesterday it did not clear until 1300
09:07:08 <Kevin L™> It is really strange.
09:07:59 <Kevin L™> I like the short lines.
09:08:19 <Dave from B™> Yesterday, traffic was backed up all the way to the gate because of a wildlife jam in the park. They even closed the gate for a bit.
09:08:44 <Dave from B™> Kevin, if you had FB you would know these things:D
09:09:13 <Dave from B™> If would also know that Raspberry and Snow seperated
09:09:29 <Dave from B™> You*
09:10:48 <Jake> the whole Raspberry and Snow thing made me realize how out of touch I am with Yellowstone and social media. For all the anxiety I get about leading masses of people to geysers by making information available on GT. It's gotta be times 10 for bears. What a nightmare for NPS
09:11:42 <Dave from B™> Jake, I agree. At least we camp at geysers....wildlife watchers "chase" wildlife
09:11:46 <Jake> (and wolves)
09:12:04 <Dave from B™> Kevin, F&M is getting ready for us
09:12:17 <Jake> did I read that wolf watchers stopped using radios or that the NPS wolf team stopped or went encrypted?
09:16:25 <Dave from B™> I don't know Jake. Art might
09:19:39 <Kevin L™> I know they now have a regulation that you can't use park radio signals to track animals.
09:20:36 <Jake> that's been a reg for 18 years, at least
09:21:38 <Jake> because I remember watching an unnamed wolf person clandestinely swinging an antenna around Lamar Valley ~2000
09:22:30 <Kevin L™> I prefer the geysers any way. They don't move around and they won't butt, kick, or bite you.
09:22:33 <Dave from B™> Jake, was that you before you saw the light and became a gazer?:D
09:24:03 <Jake> around the same time
09:26:16 <Dave from B™> It is much more dangerous to be around traffic and chasing wildlife...I'll take my splintery basin bench any day!
09:27:59 <Kevin L™> Want to have real fun, try chasing a steam engine as it moves next to the highway. Those guys are NUTS!!!!!
09:29:33 <Dave from B™> Kevin, in your DOT days, I'm sure you saw thats of whackos
09:29:38 <Dave from B™> lots*
09:31:13 <Kevin L™> Oh yes. Try putting you office 6 feet away form traffic moving at 50-75mph. :p
09:31:29 <Kevin L™> With no walls.
09:31:45 <Dave from B™> That sounds relaxing
09:34:18 <Kevin L™> Only had one guy hurt on any jobs I worked. Car went through all the traffic control when we were doing an RR crossing. He had his choice of taking me out or hitting the other guy. He took the other guy.
09:35:14 <Dave from B™> Did other guy survive
09:35:50 <Kevin L™> Yes. Spent a few days in the hospital but it was a hit and run and they never got the driver.
09:37:14 <Kevin L™> I was pretty mad because I wanted to have barriers and they wouldn't let me. I told them to put up the barriers for the remainder of the job and if my boss wanted to fire me he could. It wasn't going to happen again on my watch.
10:02:16 <Kevin L™> Lion
10:05:01 <ynpvisitor37> was that the initial?
10:05:10 <Kevin L™> Yes
10:05:19 <ynpvisitor37> ty
10:05:45 <Kevin L™> This cam is making me seasick.
10:06:28 <ynpvisitor37> it is windy out there...
10:10:36 <Kevin L™> SW13G26 from Intellicast which I think uses data from Lake.
10:11:32 <Eric> hoards of people ready to eat yogurt!
10:12:19 <Kevin L™> Do they allow that?
10:16:59 <Eric> Nice to see boardwalk is fully open now!
10:17:32 <ynpvisitor37> are the benches back?
10:17:42 <Kevin L™> Yep
10:18:00 <ynpvisitor37> doesn't look like all of them are in yet
10:19:21 <ynpvisitor37> OF outside prediction window, onlookers will be restless
10:19:51 <Kevin L™> They sure don't like that.
10:23:14 <Kevin L™> Grand
10:23:41 <Kevin L™> Now we know why OF waited
10:23:57 <ynpvisitor37> yep
10:25:07 <ynpvisitor37> at least OF went first
10:25:37 <ynpvisitor37> Did Dave decide to go to next Steamboat?
10:26:19 <Kevin L™> He is going to pass and try for the next.
10:30:51 <ynpvisitor37> I hope he eventually gets it
10:31:30 <Kevin L™> He gets an A for trying.
10:31:49 <ynpvisitor37> or attempts at trying
10:32:18 <ynpvisitor37> Steamboat at least has been nice to go before he leaves home a few times
10:33:07 <ynpvisitor37> another one burst?
10:33:32 <Kevin L™> That beats the 6 hours after leaving.
10:34:08 <ynpvisitor37> if it was 6 hours, he would have been there, yet I agree
10:35:37 <Dave from B™> It it goes too early, I'm going to be faced with a dilemna
10:35:37 <ynpvisitor37> one and done
10:35:55 <ynpvisitor37> what is that Dave?
10:36:13 <Dave from B™> My 6 night trip begins June 25th. If Steamboat is due before that, my trip may start early...but Becca won't be with me for edited portion
10:36:27 <ynpvisitor37> so two cars?
10:36:59 <Dave from B™> Yep. There was going to be 2 cars at some point anyway. Michelle will be up for just a couple nights
10:37:01 <ynpvisitor37> FB chatter is saying it could be the shortest interval yet
10:37:33 <Dave from B™> That would not surprise me....It I was going, I would be there early Saturday
10:37:36 <ynpvisitor37> Will Becca have to wait for her, or will Michelle come early?
10:37:36 <Dave from B™> If*
10:37:41 <Kevin L™> It will be a dark rainy night Dave.
10:38:30 <ynpvisitor37> Selfish Dave ruins daughter's vacation in his quest to see Steamboat...
10:38:40 <ynpvisitor37> just kidding
10:38:47 <Dave from B™> Becca's trip will start Monday no matter who brings her
10:38:54 <Dave from B™> haha 37
10:39:21 <Kevin L™> Working or big date?
10:39:39 <ynpvisitor37> yeah, isn't she on summer break?
10:40:14 <Kevin L™> Dave probably has her slaving for him while he is watching Steamboat.
10:40:19 <Dave from B™> Boyfriend's family is having a family reunion in Missoula that weekend
10:40:44 <ynpvisitor37> she has a boyfriend in MT? How is that going with her school in OR?
10:40:46 <Dave from B™> Becca's concessions job at local minor league baseball park starts tomorrow
10:41:19 <Kevin L™> Did you tell her to buy a helmet?
10:41:29 <Dave from B™> Boyfriend is going fine. He livesin Blgs, goes to school in Missoula for now and wants to be a doctor
10:41:56 <Dave from B™> Becca has no time at school for a boyfriend.. She is almost too focused on school
10:42:00 <ynpvisitor37> that's a long road
10:42:29 <ynpvisitor37> well reunion or Steamboat...hmmm, let's see...she needs to rethink that
10:42:38 <Kevin L™> For sure.
10:43:12 <Kevin L™> She should look for someone who makes more money like an auto mechanic.
10:43:57 <Dave from B™> haha Kevin
10:44:00 <ynpvisitor37> glad she is happy Dave, though she might have mixed emotions if you get Steamboat without her...
10:44:25 <ynpvisitor37> will you try to camp the extra days?
10:44:27 <Dave from B™> The big thing is I want to catch Steamboat on the front end of my trip so I won't have to worry about it all week at OF
10:44:44 <ynpvisitor37> the best laid plans...
10:45:07 <ynpvisitor37> obnoxious bison rule the roadways
10:45:11 <Kevin L™> That is why I stick with Aurum.
10:45:20 <Dave from B™> 37, I'm not sure about lodging. Let's see when it goes next before plan materializes
10:45:45 <ynpvisitor37> I sure hope you see it Dave
10:46:08 <Dave from B™> I'm still holding out hope for the following in 6 days: Steamboat, Giant, F&M, full moon BH, many Grands, GF and Ftn
10:46:25 <Kevin L™> Road hog bison:
10:46:27 <Dave from B™> I've told Becca this is NOT a sleeping vacation
10:46:30 <ynpvisitor37> quite a wish list
10:46:57 <Dave from B™> That's why it's called a bucket list:)
10:47:22 <ynpvisitor37> I thought bucket lists were for things not gotten
10:47:31 <ynpvisitor37> you already have half that list
10:48:19 <Dave from B™> Haven't seen a full moon BH in 8 years
10:48:43 <Dave from B™> I have 2 Giants but it's been 11 years
10:49:19 <Dave from B™> I have 2 F&M's but it's been 2 years:)
10:49:42 <Dave from B™> 37, Does this feel like the busiest year yet?
10:55:32 <ynpvisitor37> not sure on that one Dave
10:55:54 <ynpvisitor37> yesterday West was bonkers, backed up through town. Today, not even a sustained line. Too hard to call yet.
10:58:26 <ynpvisitor37> it's the worst year in a while for bison roaming back and forth before moving on to Hayden
10:58:51 <ynpvisitor37> I rarely go in without a jam of at least a half hour somewhere, and often times much more
10:59:18 <Kevin L™> :p
11:03:25 <sparekitty> what do you all think about taking a bike between norris and OF? i realize it's ~30 miles round trip. seems to me that it would be faster than a car.
11:03:58 <Eric> yikes...I would never ride a bike on yellowstone roads. Drivers are crazy
11:04:22 <Eric> plus you have bison who might disagree with your commute
11:04:48 <Kevin L™> Dittos to Eric
11:05:31 <sparekitty> i have thought of that but honestly i'm more concerned about animals. i'm a bike commuter in southern california so i'm fairly used to crazy/distracted drivers.
11:05:45 <sparekitty> yeah, i am worried about animals...
11:06:31 <Eric> disclaimer...I have been tboned by a car on my bike, so I ride with prejudice now :-(
11:06:48 <Kevin L™> I think the park would be worse than califprnia
11:07:11 <sparekitty> i have been hit and am ALMOST hit most days, so i get it!
11:09:54 <Eric> I think a vehicle would easily beat a bike if travelling in the early am or late afternoon/evening
11:10:22 <ynpvisitor90> inexperienced drivers in rental RV's are downright scary
11:10:30 <Kevin L™> There are a lot of people in the park that shouldn't be driving a car that are driving large motorhomes. Cars and trucks with mirrors could easily clip you on the narrow park roads.
11:10:35 <Eric> ^^
11:10:39 <sparekitty> yeah; i thought about going early and late
11:11:15 <Eric> I never ran into traffic in the 9 days I was there, but I tried to drive during non-daylight hours
11:11:15 <sparekitty> i think i'd just LIKE this to work and you all are a great reality check!
11:12:20 <Eric> Also, there are no real shoulders on the be prepared to ride on rough, potholed gravel for miles
11:14:10 <Kevin L™> I was talking to a friend of mine about how I thought a bike lane on a certain road was very dangerous especially when it had a bike path going n ext to it. I was concerned about a truck hitting a biker with a mirror. Two weeks later he was hit on that road by a mirror from a truck. He is a vegetable now.
11:14:58 <sparekitty> i am so sorry to hear that!
11:16:40 <ynpvisitor45> Anything can happen, I saw cars being extracted after running off the road and into trees and medow and experienced many close calls because many do not drive the 45 mph limit, Yellowstone is a "pay attention" roadway.
11:17:11 <ynpvisitor90> there have been a few of those in ynp too, bystanders not even biking
11:17:36 <Kevin L™> This was an 8 lane highway. He said he didn't want to be dodging pedestrians while on his bike. I guess he doesn't have to worry about that now. Too bad someone didn't look at the safety aspect of that bike lane earlier.
11:18:26 <ynpvisitor90> those mirrors are deadly
11:18:46 <sparekitty> riding to work everyday as i do definitely involves risk. i love that it's great stress relief
11:18:47 <Kevin L™> After working in the roads, I am terrified to ride a bike on anything but small residential streets.
11:19:13 <Kevin L™> Lion is looking ready
11:20:27 <Jake> it would be difficult to outpace a car Norris->OF, would certainly need significant bison jam to have a chance. And maintaining speed with a bike is difficult to do safely
11:20:53 <Kevin L™> Lot of curves and ups and downs on that road.
11:21:21 <Jake> it's possible you could outpace a car Madison->West or OF->Madison (downhill)
11:22:05 <Kevin L™> Lion
11:22:27 <Kevin L™> Don't want to zoom in since we are over 3h for a Daisy.
11:26:52 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon all
11:28:58 <Kevin L™> Hi
11:32:04 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
11:32:46 <Kevin L™> Long interval again. Blame it on the wind.
11:33:18 <ynpvisitor999®> I love how fast my new laptop is. Normally I had to wait a few seconds before I could load the entry form. Now it loads within the blink of an eye, literally :)
11:34:01 <Kevin L™> A computer does age quickly. Nice to get a new one.
11:34:02 <Eric> Nice
11:34:24 <Eric> ohh, fences are back up on BW :-|
11:34:28 <Kevin L™> Can you remember those 300 baud modems Eric?
11:34:37 <Eric> I still have one :-D
11:34:55 <Eric> I remember being soooo happy to get a 1200 baud modem!
11:35:42 <ynpvisitor999®> that's a first for me, seeing actual separate bursts from Daisy
11:35:44 <Kevin L™> You could out type the 300. The 1200 was wonderful and the 14.4 was mindblowing!
11:36:53 <ynpvisitor999®> the new boardwalk looks nice
11:37:03 <Kevin L™> Probably to install benches Eric.
11:37:32 <Kevin L™> Was it you that had the phone # to the Lodge desk Eric?
11:41:19 <Eric> I thought I did Kevin, but the number they gave me didn't work :-(
11:41:26 <Eric> at least from outside the park
11:41:59 <Kevin L™> Bummer
11:43:28 <Kevin L™> I sure miss having Will there. He was awesome.
11:44:21 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP footbath w/SW vents sputtering 1326
11:45:02 <Kevin L™> Did you see F&M this morning DG?
11:45:27 <ynpvisitor999®> no
11:45:47 <Kevin L™> 0410 confirmed.
11:45:58 <ynpvisitor999®> nice
11:45:59 <ynpvisitor999®> Aurum
11:46:00 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:46:00 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:46:01 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:46:18 <Dave from B™> nice
11:46:52 <Eric> woot
11:46:59 <Eric> Aurum a day keeps the doctor away
11:47:04 <ynpvisitor999®> haha
11:47:16 <Eric> can even see it on static
11:47:16 <Kevin L™> :)
11:48:03 <Eric> I actually wonder if I can setup an algorithm to detect aurums on the static cam? :-D
11:48:07 <ynpvisitor999®> I just had a look at OF when it did some preplay and saw a white column in the corner of my eye. Else I wouldn't have seen it
11:48:36 <Kevin L™> Nice clear view and I had the controls! Love it.
11:48:50 <Eric> boardwalk is back open again :-p
11:48:53 <Eric> OF
11:48:55 <ynpvisitor37> Jim S must have made an early day of it. He posted Fountain from the road
11:49:12 <Kevin L™> Would have missed Aurum now
11:50:29 <Kevin L™> Bet you could do that with Aurum Eric.
11:50:45 <Dave from B™> Everyone is resting up for the next Steamboat marathon
11:52:28 <Kevin L™> They don't know when to be there since you aren't coming Dave.
11:52:58 <Emily> hekki
11:53:16 <Emily> oh boy
11:53:19 <Emily> hello
11:53:25 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Emily
11:53:27 <Emily> full dave brand keyboard there
11:53:51 <Kevin L™> I was wondering if he scared you.
11:55:04 <Dave from B™> I have a shift key on my keyboards
11:55:54 <Dave from B™> Hi Emily
11:56:21 <Kevin L™> no caps isn't a bad thing.
11:56:21 <Dave from B™> When are you headed to try to catch Steamboat?
12:00:42 <Kevin L™> Do you need a swimsuit to catch a Steamboat?
12:02:09 <Dave from B™> Not unless you plan on jumping off
12:02:10 <Emily> I am headed during the week of the 4th.
12:02:28 <Emily> I nicknamed it operation steamboat. I am only trying to see it and then I am leaving
12:03:11 <Dave from B™> That sounds like a familiar plan
12:04:28 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... if Steamboat continues to be regular, the best chance for it to erupt is between (late) July 2 - (early) July 4
12:04:35 <Kevin L™> Are those new benches?
12:05:27 <Kevin L™> Look the same.
12:05:40 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe new wood, but other than that they looks the same
12:06:27 <Emily> yes that is when I am looking to spend at least 36 hours there.
12:06:41 <Kevin L™> Those are plastic so I don't think they would have needed to do anything to them. They were still in good shape.
12:06:49 <Emily> I have madison from 4th-8th but I dont for 2nd-3rd
12:11:55 <Kevin L™> Dave can tell you about a good place to sleep in West! :)
12:15:10 <Dave from B™> Emily, arrive at Norris CG early if you want to stay there
12:16:13 <Emily> I hope to get a good nights sleep before I'll be up trying to see steamboat but thats a great idea!!
12:18:24 <Emily> 36 hrs should be plenty of time in theory :)
12:18:44 <ynpvisitor37> double that and you are all set
12:19:10 <ynpvisitor37> 36 hours is a dreamers window
12:19:52 <Emily> well, thats what I have. 6.5-8days maybe more is what I wil give it
12:20:20 <Kevin L™> Sort of like estimating home improvement projects. Figure what it will cost and double that.
12:21:08 <Emily> 6.5-8 days captures all of the past intervals that have been 'short' except one
12:28:18 <Jake> that's a good window as it stands right now. if it's still active by then, we'll know more
12:29:43 <ynpvisitor999®> Hopefully SB depleted enough of NGB's assumed secondary water source, so that no disturbance happens this year
12:30:35 <Dave from B™> I'm sensing shorter intervals on all 3 biggies...a little bit of cheating since F&M's shorter interval just occurred this morning
12:30:57 <Jake> or, whatever the cause, that there's no disturbance
12:31:32 <ynpvisitor999®> good Lion try there
12:31:34 <Dave from B™> In fact, it's another Giant eruption this weekend....go book your rooms now!:)
12:31:35 <Jake> your optimism is showing, Dave
12:32:49 <Dave from B™> There is 1 really annoying thing while at Norris
12:33:05 <Dave from B™> You have no clue what is happening anywhere else in Geyserland
12:34:22 <ynpvisitor13> just reading the chat, someone said 30 miles round trip OF to Norris. Its 30 miles OF to Norris, I think.
12:35:49 <Jake> Lion ie
12:37:14 <Dave from B™> Yep, 30 miles each way and it is NOT flat
12:47:44 <Kevin L™> I make a terrible bicycle motor
12:56:47 <ynpvisitor37> terrible bike road from Madison to Norris
12:57:40 <ynpvisitor37> stormy weather can put a dent in a bike ride too
12:57:49 <ynpvisitor37> and the wind across Fountain flats...
12:58:11 <ynpvisitor37> plus very limited in what you can bring with you on a bike, that person was nuts
13:00:49 <Eric> Not sure about nuts, but wanting to do something and coming to grips with the realities of actually doing it are sometimes difficult.
13:01:10 <Eric> It would be awesome if it was a safe/good option.
13:02:40 <ynpvisitor999®> I just stumbled upon what seems to be non-entered Grotto data in Bill's logger folder
13:09:39 <ynpvisitor37> Dave from B was talking about biking from Norris campground, that makes sense
13:10:09 <ynpvisitor37> and if that person does bike it, it would be interesting to see if they repeated the process
13:10:19 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP bathtub w/SW vents on full + little surging from MAstiff and some 3+ feet surging from Giant 1444
13:10:42 <Emily> I hope to chain fan and mortar into operation steamboat :). I weirdly would like to see it more than giant. I love that geyser
13:12:12 <ynpvisitor37> I wonder when Polly will move to Steamboat from Giant
13:12:53 <ynpvisitor37> I hope you get at least one of your goals Emily
13:13:03 <ynpvisitor37> and being in the park is always a win in itself
13:13:24 <Emily> I will see steamboat
13:13:35 <ynpvisitor37> well, TBD
13:13:42 <Emily> Bald assertion at its highest
13:13:56 <ynpvisitor37> ha ha, I like bald assumptions
13:14:06 <Craig> hopefully steamboat will hold out till the 18th
13:14:08 <Kevin L™> :) Like the attitude!
13:14:20 <Dave from B™> I wish they would have kept old Gibbon Road as a bike trail
13:14:20 <ynpvisitor37> you can ask Dave about that attitude...
13:14:45 <ynpvisitor37> that would have been so nice, such a lost opportunity
13:14:48 <Dave from B™> Yep...why does it always come back to me?:)
13:15:06 <Kevin L™> Good point Dave
13:15:07 <ynpvisitor37> you know about best laid plans
13:16:25 <Kevin L™> Well they say if always flows downhill. Oh wait, it doesn't flow for you!
13:16:48 <Emily> tbh, SB is cinsistent enough that if it continues the way it does, I will see it but then again its like putting faith in pure chance. No gurrenttee with steamboat
13:17:33 <Emily> hence, bald asserttions
13:17:43 <Emily> high Graham
13:17:43 <ynpvisitor37> the balder the better
13:18:02 <Emily> well, these days its less bald than giant
13:18:18 <Craig> Why are all the geysers balding?
13:18:34 <ynpvisitor37> Emily wants them to?
13:18:59 <Graham> you will see Steamboat in eruption, thats for sure
13:19:09 <Emily> because I am making bald assertions.
13:19:16 <Kevin L™> Emily likes bald geysers.
13:19:26 <Emily> they are all bald
13:19:35 <Craig> I too prefer my geysers without hair
13:19:36 <ynpvisitor37> are you guaranteeing that Graham?
13:19:49 <Graham> yes
13:19:59 <Emily> Well, again 6.5-8 days captures all the previous intervals except one
13:19:59 <Graham> may not see the start ....
13:20:00 <Kevin L™> Twice her money back!
13:20:11 <Graham> but the afterplay is cool
13:20:19 <Emily> I'll see the start
13:20:28 <Kevin L™> You are early today Graham.
13:20:28 <Emily> baldly asserted of course
13:20:34 <Graham> that takes some endurance too
13:20:36 <ynpvisitor37> it won't be as dark for the next one if in the night
13:20:49 <Emily> yeah a moon,]
13:20:59 <ynpvisitor37> barely
13:21:10 <Graham> probably just as light with a sun flashlight
13:21:46 <ynpvisitor37> not sure Emily has one
13:22:17 <Graham> maybe can borrow one .. i am sure Taras light has been recharged
13:22:41 <Graham> i am guessing a lot of gazers will be around 4th July week
13:22:45 <ynpvisitor37> you should have left yours there for rental Graham
13:23:01 <Graham> when do you arrive Emily?
13:23:07 <ynpvisitor37> SteveO has been here so long, not sure how much longer he can stay
13:23:16 <Graham> true
13:23:28 <Graham> doesnt SteveO have to go to work sometime?
13:23:32 <ynpvisitor37> Kitt will be back, yet she is not staying the night
13:23:38 <ynpvisitor37> not sure, maybe he retired
13:23:40 <Emily> I have one
13:23:49 <Graham> she did camp at Norris ... which is soooo close
13:24:02 <Craig> OF
13:24:06 <Graham> problem solved
13:24:09 <Emily> I arrive whenever steamboat's interval starts
13:24:21 <ynpvisitor37> which is?
13:24:30 <ynpvisitor37> do you mean the window
13:24:32 <ynpvisitor37> ?
13:24:35 <Emily> yes
13:24:38 <ynpvisitor37> the interval is always in progress
13:24:43 <Kevin L™> I did wait 40 hours for my first F&M.
13:24:56 <Graham> so this SUnday morning?
13:24:57 <ynpvisitor37> say this one goes Saturday, that will change the window yet again
13:25:01 <Emily> I am no deciding until in theory the eruption before the one I aim to see
13:25:09 <Dave from B™> SteveO should be about due to leave. He has been there since Friday, June 1
13:25:10 <Emily> July 4th
13:25:24 <ynpvisitor37> is he retired Dave, or on vacation?
13:25:25 <Emily> I have a 4000 lumen fenix
13:25:40 <Graham> they are good lights
13:26:07 <Dave from B™> On vacation
13:26:14 <ynpvisitor999®> next Steamboat according to my 7d12h interval + a 48h window would be on June 18 @ 1306 ± 24h, if active phase continues and no disturbance happens
13:26:14 <Emily> also good for when i attempt longs peak in July
13:26:52 <Dave from B™> DG, with all that fine sure you aren't going to be a lawyer?:)
13:26:57 <Graham> sitting at Steamboat is easier
13:27:17 <Emily> sitting where?
13:27:24 <Emily> than sitting where
13:27:56 <Graham> easier than climbing Longs Peak
13:27:59 <Dave from B™> easier than attempting longs peak
13:28:18 <kc (working)> who is doing longs?
13:28:19 <Graham> of course you have to be there fir the OMG minor, so get there a day earlier
13:28:30 <ynpvisitor999®> no lawyer for me Dave, as I wouldn't be able to read hundreds or thousands of laws we have here in the Netherlands
13:28:48 <Dave from B™> Minors are worth the cost of admission
13:29:19 <Graham> then you can leave for 5h because it never erupts in the gap ... haha until it does
13:30:13 <ynpvisitor13> I think SteveO is headed home today.
13:30:37 <Graham> he had a great trip
13:30:47 <Graham> did he get Giant and F&M also?
13:30:56 <Emily> Kc, I am attempting longs
13:31:26 <kc (working)> cool. lmk if u need advice, I have done 2 attempts 1 summit
13:32:25 <Kevin L™> Bad year for Colorado trains kc. Pikes peak and Durango both shut down.
13:32:59 <kc (working)> san juans are burning, not sure about pikes
13:33:01 <Graham> nice that F&M erupted, now we need Giant
13:33:36 <ynpvisitor13> he missed F&M this morning but pretty sure he got one.
13:33:56 <Emily> ok, I am not sure if I am actually doing it but I'll see.
13:34:06 <Kevin L™> Pikes is due to old equipment. Cost too much to buy new or repair. Not sure if it will ever run again. :(
13:34:06 <Emily> I am in Ft. COllins for the summer
13:34:22 <Graham> you will still be at Steamboat waiting for the eruption
13:34:42 <Kevin L™> I really hope you get it Emily.
13:34:55 <Emily> i am going to. Because bald assertions
13:35:23 <Graham> at least i didnt plan to do the durango railroad in 2 weeks
13:35:36 <Eric> I would be at steamboat on Saturday this week...I usually go for averages, but the quick cistern fill has me concerned that things are getting shorter.
13:35:43 <Graham> going on ot Mesa Verde which i think has less smoke
13:35:46 <kc (working)> leave the trailhead ~midnight, no messin around with lightning on your trek
13:36:06 <Emily> Yeah leaving super early 12-2am
13:36:12 <Dave from B™> Time to head out Have a great evening everyone!
13:36:15 <Craig> The earliest I'll be able to be in basin is Sunday. Hopefully steamboat waits
13:36:23 <ynpvisitor999®> same to you, Dave
13:36:41 <Kevin L™> Have a good one Dave. Remember football season starts tonight!
13:36:44 <Craig> wavers
13:36:45 <Emily> Well see, I wouldnt mind shortening then my late week july 4th trip looks better and more time in the basin is possible
13:36:48 <Graham> i am not at all sure the cistern refill time is important, but we will see. the wondow quoted based on cistern refill was LONGER than just going based on the last eruption time
13:36:52 <kc (working)> if the chockstone at the top of the trough gives you trouble, look to scramble around it on the left
13:37:05 <Dave from B™> Craig, that sounds like a Dave attempt to see Steamboat
13:37:14 <Eric> I hope it does too Craig! Keeping the window under 2 days is a lot easier on gazers
13:37:16 <Craig> What does that mean? lol
13:37:24 <Dave from B™> Yes, Kevin...World Cup does start today:)
13:38:12 <Graham> since you are not going tis weekend it will probably go mid-window in daylight
13:38:16 <Dave from B™> Dave attempts at Steamboat equals it will go the day before
13:38:36 <Graham> watch out for the following weekend tho
13:38:36 <Dave from B™> That's cruel, Graham:D
13:38:49 <Kevin L™> Eskimos and Blue Bombers are in the World Cup?
13:38:59 <Craig> Lol
13:39:01 <Emily> I am at UCSB for bros graudation :)
13:39:17 <Kevin L™> Congrats to him!
13:39:19 <Emily> this weekend
13:39:27 <Emily> so no steamboat
13:39:45 <Graham> you are missing the best opportunity with Dave not going
13:40:47 <Joe´> Lion
13:42:22 <Emily> We will see what happens for me.
13:55:42 <ynpvisitor94> Time for an early BH
13:57:20 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm thinking the same thing
14:01:25 <ynpvisitor94> So Giant and Steamboat, or Steamboat and then Giant? Looks like an interesting Fathers day.
14:02:10 <ynpvisitor999®> I predicted F&M, Steamboat then Giant a few days ago, if I recall correctly
14:02:19 <ynpvisitor999®> so far it's holding up
14:02:43 <ynpvisitor94> They finished the boarwalk?
14:03:13 <Kevin L™> Need to install a few benches
14:05:17 <ynpvisitor999®> the Pacific basin has been on a roll these few weeks: two C4 hurricanes and now 4E has formed
14:13:48 <Jake> Beehive before Giant, you heard it here first
14:14:22 <Jake> no extra lawyer language needed ;)
14:14:36 <ynpvisitor999®> :)
14:15:12 <Graham> uhoh...all Jakes fault if it breaks now
14:15:28 <ynpvisitor94> I am putting my money on Anemone.
14:18:25 <ynpvisitor94> Kevin needs to clean the dome
14:30:44 <Jake> my lawyer just reminded me of that mid-cycle indicator a couple days ago and the risk it poses
14:33:17 <ynpvisitor999®> hopefully that doesn't happen this season, Jake
14:35:35 <Jake> I'm leaving for the day so I will be the sacrifice, bye
14:35:43 <ynpvisitor999®> bye Jake
14:40:27 <ynpvisitor90> there was a mid cycle Indy a few days ago
14:48:30 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion trying
14:53:25 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
14:54:21 <ynpvisitor999®> Bee surging a little
14:59:32 <Eric> OF
14:59:53 <ynpvisitor999®> still no Daisy
15:03:08 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
15:07:05 <ynpvisitor999®> BHI 1705
15:07:07 <ynpvisitor999®> .
15:07:07 <ynpvisitor999®> .
15:07:08 <ynpvisitor999®> .
15:07:09 <ynpvisitor999®> .
15:07:10 <ynpvisitor999®> .
15:09:44 <Kitt> I don't see indy
15:09:51 <ynpvisitor6> Did someone say indy?
15:09:54 <Kitt> oh
15:10:01 <ynpvisitor999®> 1705 in-basin
15:10:15 <Kevin L™> I see it now
15:10:40 <Kitt> the cam
15:10:55 <Kitt> s globe needs a good cleaning
15:11:13 <Dave from B> I think it is beyond cleaning
15:11:15 <Kevin L™> Or replacing
15:12:10 <Kitt> is it glass or plastic?
15:12:38 <Eric> plastic
15:13:02 <Eric> They should get a new second one and swap/clean them once a year
15:13:03 <ynpvisitor999®> Indy seems a bit weak
15:13:28 <Eric> They could have it buffed clean I bet
15:13:46 <Eric> hopefully not another false indy
15:13:56 <ynpvisitor999®> probably wind-blown, making it look weak
15:14:22 <ynpvisitor999®> I at least hope so
15:14:37 <Kitt> mid-cycle indy's occur in the middle of the expected interval
15:15:01 <ynpvisitor57> they also tend to be a short duration
15:15:15 <ynpvisitor57> this indicator looks normal to me
15:15:32 <Kitt> I see gt has bee predicted for 1745 +/-, so this wouldn't be mid-cycle
15:16:10 <Kitt> it appears to be double the cone height, so normal in size
15:16:18 <Dave from B> Kitt, you going in to try to catch next Steamboat?
15:16:46 <Kitt> if it is after the 20th
15:17:07 <Kitt> now my question
15:17:09 <Dave from B> better not be that late
15:17:39 <Kitt> if the last Steamboat and F & M erupted at night, Will the next Giant erupt at night?
15:18:01 <Dave from B> no
15:18:09 <Kitt> ok
15:18:23 <Kevin L™> Only if Dave is there.
15:18:47 <Dave from B> I'm going with more daylight hours
15:19:02 <Dave from B> When does SteveO return?
15:19:12 <ynpvisitor94> The next Giant and Steamboat will be before Dave gets there.
15:19:14 <Kitt> near the end of the month
15:19:36 <ynpvisitor94> He may as well settle for some Grands and a Fountain or 2.
15:19:42 <Dave from B> Nice. I will get to see him again then
15:20:07 <Kitt> I didn't get to see Fountain this trip
15:21:08 <Dave from B> 94, I'm hoping so for both Giant and Steamboat...Giant this weekend to really shorten its interval and Steamboat on Monday would be perfect although I think it goes Sunday
15:21:10 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy's interval is just under 4h now :(
15:21:28 <Kitt> Steamboat is wonderful, but the wait sure takes it out of me
15:22:23 <Kitt> the average recovery after a steamboat wait is 3 days
15:22:33 <Dave from B> Especially in the heat
15:22:38 <Kitt> lots of sleep and lots of liquid
15:23:08 <Eric> My lips are just now recovering from the 5/27 steamboat sit
15:23:30 <ynpvisitor94> The sure way to get Steamboat is rent a bunch of coffee, and when you are line to return it, Steamboat will go off.
15:23:32 <Dave from B> I can't believe Ralph was out there during that heat
15:23:50 <Kevin L™> Heat?
15:24:04 <Kitt> yes Kevin, heat
15:24:13 <ynpvisitor94> Kevin, it is the altitude.
15:24:13 <Eric> Yes, the sun bakes you sitting in it on that platform
15:24:40 <Dave from B> Kevin, do you sit outside for 14 straight hours in LV?
15:24:46 <Kitt> I am pretty sure you don't sit in your yard all day in the sun with the occasional mile trek uphill to use a pit toilet
15:25:30 <ynpvisitor999®> BHI 20m
15:25:45 <Kitt> my 2nd wait we only had to walk to the lower end of the parking lot for the bathrooms
15:25:56 <Kitt> and we occasionally had soap to use
15:26:14 <Kevin L™> :) 108° here now.
15:26:35 <Kitt> Yellowstone made it to 78 on several days
15:26:37 <Eric> Sit outside for 14h in direct sunlight and let us know how it is :-D
15:26:43 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll pass, Kevin
15:26:54 <ynpvisitor94> That should cause a geyser in our yard.
15:27:10 <ynpvisitor94> your
15:27:27 <Dave from B> 78 in YNP is like 90s in blgs
15:27:29 <ynpvisitor94> You all need golf umbrellas.
15:27:38 <Dave from B> 94, don't go there
15:27:42 <Dave from B> :)
15:27:46 <Eric> Wowza....this BHI is going forever!
15:28:03 <ynpvisitor94> They fold up
15:28:05 <Dave from B> Graham
15:28:12 <Eric> haha
15:28:16 <Eric> Dave talked too much
15:28:48 <ynpvisitor999®> I've always wondered if you could create a hot spring/geyser if you were to make a big hole, put in there a powerful heater, some rhyolite blocks and let warm water flow into it
15:29:24 <ynpvisitor999®> theoretically it could work
15:29:25 <ynpvisitor94> weeeeee
15:29:27 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
15:29:27 <Kitt> Beehive
15:29:28 <Kevin L™> 25m on Indy
15:29:29 <Eric> Holy cow...we had so many model geyser builders on the platform for steamboat, I was in awwwe
15:29:45 <Dave from B> DG, you might want to ask your parents, first
15:29:49 <Eric> There it goes....woot
15:30:07 <sparekitty> big delay here...
15:30:11 <Dave from B> Longest BHI in a long time
15:30:41 <ynpvisitor999®> I should actually ask my municipality, because our garden is nowhere near as big as what seems to be a standard garden in the US
15:31:29 <Eric> Glad it finally went, was getting worried we might stall out
15:31:32 <ynpvisitor999®> and by asking, asking them if they have some spare ground left without a set plan yet
15:32:25 <Dave from B> Me, too Eric. Long indy and mid cycle the other day make me nervous
15:32:30 <Eric> If you are really interested in model geysers, ask on the facebook geyser gazer group or the listserv.....tons of knowledge there.
15:32:33 <Kitt> I sure wish Giantess would wake up and rattle the hill
15:32:47 <Eric> Agree Kitt
15:32:48 <Betty> just in time
15:32:48 <ynpvisitor999®> an artificial geyser field could help with boosting tourism in my province
15:32:50 <Eric> Hi Betty
15:32:57 <ynpvisitor999®> hi Betty
15:32:58 <Betty> hi Eric
15:33:04 <Betty> hi DG
15:33:08 <Kitt> Well enjoy Beehive while it is active
15:33:17 <Eric> Yerp
15:33:21 <ynpvisitor999®> I indeed will, Kitt
15:33:27 <Kitt> we have an aweful lot of dormant geysers rightnow
15:33:51 <Eric> Not steamboat! :-D
15:34:13 <ynpvisitor94> Well kudos to the evil genius that built indy and BH.
15:34:15 <Kitt> for now
15:34:17 <ynpvisitor94> Enjoy lion
15:34:32 <Eric> yep...every geyser is a gift
15:34:41 <ynpvisitor999®> Agreed, Eric
15:34:52 <Kitt> bye
15:34:56 <ynpvisitor999®> bye Kitt
15:35:17 <Kevin L™> bye
15:35:30 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm off to bed, night everyone
15:35:57 <Betty> me too, night all
15:36:15 <Dave from B> nite all...I'm back to bookwork as well
15:49:09 <Graham> did I miss anything?
15:49:15 <Graham> at least NG didnt erupt
15:50:02 <Eric> You missed a few OF eruptions.
17:04:28 <Kevin L™> Nice light
17:15:53 <Kevin L™> 1b
17:32:58 <Kevin L™> Ugh! Rain delay for the football game. :p
18:15:32 <ynpvisitor89> purty
18:15:45 <ynpvisitor89> looks almost surreal
18:16:29 <Kevin L™> Nice shot
18:47:57 <ynpvisitor19> ~~~
18:49:33 <ynpvisitor19> Boardwalk open.
18:50:14 <ynpvisitor19> Good tour. Thanks
19:43:39 <ynpvisitor19> OF 2141 wc late in the eruption. It had to have been a long