Showing logs for date: 2018-06-15
04:50:30 <Joe´> Daisy
04:54:27 <Joe´> Grand
04:54:44 <Rice> And Grand
04:55:05 <Rice> Beat me too it Joe!
05:01:02 <Joe´> OF 0700
05:17:23 <Dave from B™> Good morning Joe, Rice, numbers
05:17:30 <Joe´> Hi Dave, just in time for BH :
05:19:24 <Dave from B™> Well, let's start it up then!
05:20:23 <Joe´> There are people on the boardwalk watching, let's see if they can find the button
05:21:51 <ynpvisitor86> .
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05:21:56 <ynpvisitor86> indy
05:22:09 <Dave from B™> well done!
05:22:28 <Betty> morning guys
05:23:15 <Joe´> text sent
05:23:31 <Dave from B™> Hi Betty
05:23:48 <Betty> hi Joe and Dave
05:24:10 <Joe´> Hi Betty
05:25:16 <Kitt> yay indy
05:25:29 <Betty> hi Kitt
05:26:31 <Kitt> hello
05:27:16 <Dave from B™> Morning Kitt
05:28:57 <Kitt> hi
05:29:14 <ynpvisitor115> everybody sleep in this morning?
05:29:28 <Kitt> I am trying
05:30:43 <Joe´> Looks like most folks have their phones on do not disturb
05:30:57 <Kitt> must be Jim and Emily there today
05:31:47 <Kitt> why because there are 6 names and a bunch of numbers here
05:32:25 <Joe´> Because the numbers did not increase by very many since I sent the text
05:32:35 <Dave from B™> Eric is still sleeping
05:32:42 <ynpvisitor115> there they come.
05:36:53 <Eric> nope...I am here
05:37:15 <Betty> with closed eyes? ;-)
05:37:19 <Joe´> just in time:)
05:37:21 <Eric> yep :-D
05:37:31 <Eric> grabbing coffeeeeeee now!
05:38:04 <Dave from B™> GOOD MORNING ERIC!!:)
05:38:25 <Eric> haha
05:40:44 <Eric> So whats the deal with Polly's note about steamboat and the porkchop graph...I didn't get it
05:41:31 <Eric> I have looked at the porkchop graph previously and again this morning for any correlations between steamboat activity and see absolutely nothing.
05:41:42 <Kitt> Climb Beehive, Climb!
05:41:45 <Joe´> BH
05:41:51 <Eric> BH!
05:42:36 <Kitt> great day for up Bee
05:42:54 <Kitt> out of cam view
05:42:57 <Eric> Nice looking bee
05:42:57 <Joe´> Be never gets old no matter what side of the camera you're on
05:43:37 <Kitt> that is a tall eruption
05:43:57 <Eric> no wind
05:46:21 <Betty> Lion
05:46:22 <Joe´> Lion
05:47:42 <Betty> time to head home, bbl
05:47:44 <Eric> minor?
05:47:50 <Eric> bye betty
06:20:38 <Eric> Kevin out grooming chickens today?
06:22:36 <Dave from B™> Morning Jimbo...a Montana mined element
06:22:54 <Jimbo Palladium> Hi Dave - yes, and an important one
06:45:34 <ynpvisitor56> Cock a dooodle dooooooo
06:46:01 <ynpvisitor92> OF ending nie
06:48:56 <Kevin L™> Lion
06:49:05 <Joe´> LIon
06:50:32 <Kevin L™> Wet road at west gate.
06:53:02 <Eric> North too
06:53:07 <Eric> and hello Kevin
06:53:14 <Eric> Chickens all groomed?
06:54:35 <Kevin L™> Morning. I sure hope so. Cleaning out water pans and planting my Grapefruit tree along with repairs to about a dozen things. Looks like I missed everything.
06:57:25 <Kevin L™> Wild football game last night. Started at 1800 and after 3 weather delays it finished at 2320 on a last minute field goal.
07:04:22 <ynpvisitor92> Grotto area steam
07:13:46 <Jake> encouraging words on Steamboat this morning
07:14:28 <Jake> I wonder how the end of the active phase will come, will it be obvious? or it will the system recharge like normal and then just not have a major eruption?
07:14:44 <ynpvisitor53> Encouraging for a short interval?
07:14:47 <Dave from B™> or it could suck people there for 72 hours in the rain
07:15:22 <Kevin L™> It would be more encouraging if Dave said he was going there for it Saturday.
07:15:28 <Dave from B™> I was thinking intervals would lenghten and then it would stop all together
07:15:36 <Dave from B™> haha
07:16:10 <Jake> I can't read into it enough to say that it will be a shorter than average interval
07:16:37 <Jake> it's past the shortest historical interval on GT anyway
07:16:51 <ynpvisitor53> Polly posted a note last evening
07:17:44 <Jake> I didn't see that yet, thanks
07:17:56 <ynpvisitor53> And Beverly notes sound like things are advancing quicker
07:18:45 <ynpvisitor90> Today at 1530, or never again, that's my prediction. Does that cover it?
07:19:17 <Jake> who can interpret this statement for me? "The “weekly” cycle at Norris has shortened to 6 days. This can be seen in Porkchop’s YVO graph."
07:19:39 <Jake> now THAT is a prediction, 90. Excellent conviction
07:20:33 <ynpvisitor90> :thumbsup: don't mention it.
07:20:46 <Jake> here are the Porkchop YVO graphs: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/yellowstone_monitoring_37.html
07:20:46 <ynpvisitor53> This end of active phase will be watched, unless it keeps going thru end of season
07:22:09 <ynpvisitor90> it's hard to read the historic data when they didn't have staff around in the winter, but we will have yvo even after roads close, if it continues that is
07:23:45 <ynpvisitor53> I hope it ends while people can observe it, to see what happens with Cistern and minors as it ends
07:24:48 <Eric> I have said I would be there on Saturday if I was in the park....we are already 3 days past cistern fill now I believe
07:25:55 <Eric> haha...I asked the same question earlier Jake.
07:26:03 <Jake> a cadre of gazers watching The End, followed by a solemn service and eulogy as a 21 cement truck salute backs up to the vent and fill it to rest in peace
07:26:12 <Eric> I have looked at the porkchop graph prior to this and see absolutely NO correlation to steamboat
07:27:28 <Jake> I'm not seeing anything either
07:27:48 <Dave from B™> Don't you guys tempt me to go tomorrow!
07:29:35 <Eric> Actually, I was wrong...tomorrow morning is 3 days past cistern overflow
07:30:15 <Eric> I think the longest we have seen is 4.5 days of cistern in overflow...that would put Sunday at noon pushing the current interval of cistern being full.
07:30:37 <Kevin L™> Go for it Dave!!!!
07:30:38 <Dave from B™> That makes me feel better. I'm still feeling Sunday which puts me in a pickle for my trip that begins on Monday June 25
07:30:41 <ynpvisitor90> 1530 today - go Dave!
07:31:25 <Dave from B™> I need Sat and Sun before my trip to get ahead at work.
07:32:59 <Dave from B™> Eric, any thoughts to putting a weather forecast link on this page for Norris and OF?
07:35:03 <Eric> They all suck...I wouldn't trust any of them
07:35:21 <Eric> The closest weather station to norris is probably west I guess
07:35:29 <Dave from B™> I figured you had thought of it before
07:35:46 <Eric> If someone has actually good weather links I can add them here, but I haven't seen anything worth using
07:36:16 <Eric> The weather station no longer works at OF, so you have lake as the closest, which is never right
07:37:16 <Dave from B™> Rain in the forecast the next 7 days at OF...I hope this wet weather leaves before I arrive
07:38:35 <Jake> Daisy ie
07:40:35 <Jake> Depression steamy
07:46:06 <ynpvisitor...> Did we hear if Bill got his photos of Cistern?
07:57:47 <Joe´> Lion
08:02:31 <Kevin L™> The best weather I have seen is intellicast but that is not a public site Eric. I think they use data from Lake though. I sure miss the OF station. Used that all the time.
08:03:51 <Kevin L™> This is where they get the data. Not sure where it is: KWYS 151555Z AUTO 08007KT 8SM -RA FEW044 SCT050 05/04 A2996 RMK AO2 P0008
08:04:00 <ynpvisitor90> I use NWS and drag the forecast area map - Norris comes from Mammoth forecast I think
08:04:18 <Dave from B™> I was talking about weather FORECAST not weather data
08:05:13 <Kevin L™> Intellicast has the best forecast for the most part. I use it for everything.
08:08:14 <Kevin L™> That sure looks miserable there right now.
08:11:04 <Eric> KWYS is west yellowstone weather station kevin
08:11:33 <Kevin L™> Thanks Eric. I always wondered where it was.
08:11:47 <Eric> West seems to make the most sense for norris and OF
08:12:05 <Eric> super lag for me on video
08:13:03 <Kevin L™> I agree. It can be way different in Mammoth or Lake.
08:15:12 <ynpvisitor23> https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USWY0183?site=www.fodors.com&promo=0
08:15:29 <ynpvisitor23> probably based on lake
08:15:57 <Eric> haha...I find it funny when they have a single weather report for the entire park :-P
08:17:28 <Kevin L™> Most people have no clue how big the park is.
08:20:02 <Jimbo Palladium> https://mapfight.appspot.com/yellowstone-vs-us.ct/yellowstone-national-park-connecticut-us-size-comparison
08:21:08 <Dave from B™> Could someone look at Norris seismo please
08:21:29 <Dave from B™> I think Steamboat went
08:21:32 <Kevin L™> Here is one for DG: https://mapfight.appspot.com/yellowstone-vs-nl/yellowstone-national-park-netherlands-size-comparison
08:21:39 <Jimbo Palladium> https://mapfight.appspot.com/yellowstone-vs-us.vt/yellowstone-national-park-vermont-us-size-comparison
08:22:11 <Dave from B™> DG, Does that look like Steamboat to you?
08:22:17 <Joe´> Lost camera controls
08:22:38 <ynpvisitor...> :thumbsup:>(>(:thumbsup:
08:22:46 <Dave from B™> Looks like Steamboat to me on the seismo
08:23:16 <ynpvisitor...> Daylight. A good thing!
08:23:22 <Joe´> I think you are right!!
08:23:30 <Kevin L™> Stream is down too Joe. Probably power outage.
08:23:54 <Eric> i dont see it
08:25:03 <Dave from B™> Bottom line is solid blue
08:25:09 <ynpvisitor...> Eric, the solid bar of blue wiggles is not diagnostic? I'm asking here.
08:25:56 <Jake> doesn't look like Steamboat to me
08:26:01 <Jimbo Palladium> Just looking at it now, it just appears to be the normal increase in daily noise as cars drive by and people walk.
08:26:03 <Dave from B™> That's my bad...in my small window it looks solid...not so much on larger version
08:26:11 <Jake> look at the top of the seismo for yesterday morning, looks the same
08:26:14 <Kevin L™> If you look at the top there are similar lines. Steamboat has a more solid fat line.
08:26:28 <ynpvisitor...> Thanks guys
08:27:26 <Dave from B™> It looked solid and fat on my little screen
08:27:57 <Dave from B™> phew....way too early for Steamboat to go
08:28:38 <Jake> There once was a boy watching water shoot out of the ground and he screamed, "STEAMBOAT!" And all the villagers came running to see, but there was no eruption and the boy laughed and laughed.
08:29:06 <Dave from B™> hahahaha Jake
08:29:31 <Kevin L™> Is there a wolf involved in this?
08:31:12 <Jake> A few days later, the boy was again watching water drool out of the ground and in his boredom cried "STEAMBOAT!" And again the villagers came running and there was no eruption. The villagers admonished the boy for his lies and returned to the village.
08:32:45 <Jake> A week later, during a heavy rain, the boy was again tending to his vents. All of a sudden, a great wall of water rose out of the ground and the boy screamed, "STEAMBOAT! STEAMBOAT!" But no one came. Again he shouted "STEAMBOAT! STEAMBOAT!" and soon a silhouetted figure appeared on the hill.
08:35:39 <ynpvisitor15> What a nice day for Dave to be setting waiting for hot water to show up.
08:35:40 <Kevin L™> Looks like streaming is back
08:35:43 <Jake> As it came closer, he could see the brim of wide hat on the figure. It came closer and the man said "Your umbrella is too large and is in violation of 32 CFR Section 2.1(a). Your violation will result in a fine of $250."
08:36:08 <Joe´> we are back
08:38:55 <Eric> I like the map fight :-D blow hards versus YNP https://mapfight.appspot.com/yellowstone-vs-washington.dc/yellowstone-national-park-washington-dc-size-comparison
08:39:12 <Eric> Crushed em!
08:39:38 <Kevin L™> :)
08:42:42 <Dave from B™> So, how many states are smaller than YNP? Delaware? Rhode Island?
08:45:52 <Eric> utt oh, camera giving out again :-(?
08:46:04 <Eric> dead
08:46:28 <Eric> kind of...network must being having a hard time
08:46:31 <Eric> back
08:46:47 <Kevin L™> Big line at West.
08:48:33 <Eric> dead
08:49:29 <Jimbo Palladium> Just those two, Dave. Connecticut is third smallest, but a lot bigger than Delaware. The Conn-YNP comparison was the first one I tried.
08:50:11 <Eric> back
08:50:25 <Joe´> dead
08:50:32 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Jimbo
08:50:59 <Joe´> back
08:51:11 <Dave from B™> Now, compare the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem and it is probably larger than at least a half dozen states
08:52:16 <Kevin L™> I bet it has more hotel rooms per resident than most states.
08:54:09 <Joe´> Lion
08:54:52 <Joe´> Minor
09:08:41 <Dave from B™> What is the difference between blue and black on the seismo?
09:11:02 <Rice> The wave light reflected (I know I am so smart!)
09:11:20 <Joe´> Lion
09:15:16 <Jake> just for ease of reading? it looks like each line is progressively darker until the "black" line and then it cycles again every 4 lines
09:15:53 <Dave from B™> Thanks Jake....I'm going to buy that one
09:17:01 <Jimbo Palladium> I concur
09:19:23 <Eric> hey...lake cam is finally back!
09:19:30 <ynpvisitor53> That latest signature almost looks like an eruption
09:19:31 <Eric> For this nice rainy day
09:25:32 <Dave from B™> Someone is driving their hot rod around the Norris parking lot
09:27:05 <Rice> Too bad the steamboat logger is not working
09:43:30 <ynpvisitor...> It would be interesting when Steamboat erupts if the seismic trace for just the eruption could be extracted and enlarged to provide more detail of the eruption. I assume the electronic data is available somewhere. Interesting to compare different eruptions.
09:44:12 <ynpvisitor...> By the way, gazers who were on the platform did not like their reports being questioned by “armchair” observers. I was both supportive and amused.
09:44:12 <Dave from B™> ..., were you at Norris last weekend?
09:44:24 <ynpvisitor...> No, Tuesday
09:44:41 <Dave from B™> alright...I saw you posted a Whirligig
09:45:00 <Dave from B™> What were we questioning?
09:45:28 <ynpvisitor...> My impression was time.
09:45:59 <ynpvisitor...> They didn't care what the data showed, they saw water :)
09:46:01 <ynpvisitor37> I am surprised there were other gazers there Tuesday
09:46:32 <ynpvisitor37> that is a long time after the eruption
09:47:02 <Dave from B™> Nobody is questioning anything. Everyone wants to reconcile what they see on the siesmo and loggers with what is actually happening on site
09:47:31 <ynpvisitor...> People who were ther for the eruption hadn't died yet :)
09:47:38 <Dave from B™> anyways...glad you made it up there
09:48:08 <ynpvisitor...> Dave, I explained that I thought the difference was one of the most interesting parts.
09:48:14 <ynpvisitor37> what does that mean? Died yet?
09:48:51 <Kevin L™> You will find out Dave.
09:49:01 <ynpvisitor37> odd comment considering only one person was at the last eruption
09:49:50 <Dave from B™> There was more than 1 who saw water
09:50:03 <ynpvisitor37> who else?
09:50:03 <Dave from B™> Jeff was only person at the start
09:50:22 <Dave from B™> Kitt came "running" from the campground
09:50:25 <ynpvisitor37> short eruption time, not sure anyone else could make it over in time
09:52:36 <Eric> I think many from campground came over
09:52:47 <Eric> Not sure of exact numbers
09:53:12 <Eric> Glad Jeff called it on the radio
09:53:46 <Eric> As far as grumping on the "armchair" web viewers....I heard a lot of that as well over the weekend I was there.
09:54:09 <Eric> But gazers love to grump about everything :-P
09:54:34 <ynpvisitor37> you mean from this cam? No cam at Norris
09:55:37 <Eric> Yes, people on this cam chat or facebook, who were not in the park.
09:55:45 <Dave from B™> I didn't hear any of that. We did talk about DG and how he has been able to spot Steamboat on the seismo
09:56:21 <Eric> But I take all of it with a grain of salt....like Dave said earlier, everyone is trying to help contribute.
09:57:08 <Dave from B™> Part of that talk on the platform at Norris is due to extreme fatigue as well
09:58:23 <Eric> Yep....I really appreciate everyone trying to understand with the data they have.
09:58:35 <Dave from B™> I've haerd in the past grumbling about armchair observers...let's see, I can view in person 10 days a year and be here the other 355 days. I bet I learn more in the 355 days I'm here.
09:58:52 <Dave from B™> BOTH are valuable
09:59:01 <Eric> Totally Agree!
09:59:01 <ynpvisitor37> The water phase of the last one was only 18 minutes. If people made it from the campground, well, that is incredible
09:59:19 <Dave from B™> And, technology is improving every year
09:59:45 <Dave from B™> 37, you didn't see the pile of rubber in between the CG and parking lot?:)
09:59:54 <Eric> haha
10:00:09 <Dave from B™> I think Kitt slept with her shoes on:)
10:00:20 <Eric> and the car running :-P
10:00:29 <Dave from B™> and her poncho on!
10:01:39 <Joe´> I was on the platform Sunday evening...I wish I had stayed...:( :(
10:02:30 <Joe´> castle ie
10:33:47 <Betty> afternoon all
10:34:06 <Joe´> Hi Betty
10:34:18 <Kevin L™> hi
10:34:39 <Betty> hi Joe´ and Kevin L™
10:41:09 <Betty> the dome looks horrible
10:41:34 <ynpvisitor...> Yes it does!
10:42:06 <Betty> hi Kent
10:42:17 <ynpvisitor...> Hey Betty
10:42:50 <Joe´> They have wiped it many times with that pole cleaning device but I don't think they have used any cleaning solution I wish they would give that a try
10:43:47 <Betty> doggie
10:46:49 <Dave from B™> Why do we call bison doggie?
10:47:11 <Betty> ask Kevin
10:48:34 <Dave from B™> Well, Kevin?
10:49:04 <Kevin L™> Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEgxQ9iWmp8
10:49:50 <ynpvisitor999®> what a nice day in the basin
10:49:58 <Kevin L™> :P
10:50:11 <ynpvisitor999®> evening Betty, afternoon all
10:51:57 <ynpvisitor999®> Dep ie?
10:52:29 <Dave from B™> btw, wb Betty:)
11:00:15 <ynpvisitor...> 1259 wc
11:06:25 <ynpvisitor...> Short by the book
11:13:16 <Joe´> There is a live stream by the USGS of the Kilauea volcano here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlP-8JiKOS8
11:18:19 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand
11:19:31 <ynpvisitor...> Takes a while on my box
11:21:46 <Betty> evening DG, thx Dave
11:23:01 <ynpvisitor999®> that was a nice spike from Grand
11:23:15 <ynpvisitor999®> 6m mark
11:23:51 <Kevin L™> It knew I had to leave
11:25:50 <ynpvisitor999®> 8m
11:26:59 <ynpvisitor999®> 9m
11:27:20 <Kevin L™> tick tick tick...
11:27:51 <ynpvisitor999®> 10m
11:28:01 <ynpvisitor999®> likely a 1b by now
11:28:19 <Kevin L™> But it is a fluffy 1b
11:29:23 <ynpvisitor999®> Both yellow Daisy predictions off the list now
11:30:08 <Kevin L™> DG broke Daisy
11:30:44 <ynpvisitor...> :)
11:30:47 <ynpvisitor999®> G1C | 10m19s
11:31:42 <ynpvisitor999®> hopefully this helps
11:33:17 <Betty> haha
11:33:27 <Betty> only works with Kevin
11:33:34 <Betty> and Aurum
11:40:03 <Betty> hi Jake
11:40:11 <Jake> hi Betty
11:50:52 <Jake> was the frustration about armchair gazers over what was put into GT? or on Facebook? or in chat?
11:55:00 <ynpvisitor999®> Still no Daisy?
12:16:15 <Dave from B™> Kent, how long were you in the park?
12:17:13 <Jake> the first witnessed Steamboat showed that the seismo start was actually the start of the steam phase. Then the next witnessed eruption had the water phase as the start on the seismo.
12:18:26 <ynpvisitor...> Sunday afternoon through Wednesday noon. Cold Monday, but a good visit.
12:19:01 <Dave from B™> Were you able to do any hiking?
12:19:20 <ynpvisitor...> Can barely walk :(
12:34:19 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy's interval approaching 5h now :(
12:41:59 <Joe´> I think Daisy will be about 1515, I thought I saw Daisy about 1220 or so but it was so small I disregarded it, I should've posted it because Castle and Grand were smaller than usual.
12:42:11 <Joe´> OF 1441
12:43:05 <Kevin L™> You should just post it a s questionable so it can get reviewed.
12:44:19 <Jake> yes, add it with a ?. size isn't everything, Joe!
12:44:47 <Joe´> :)
12:47:17 <Dave from B™> Jake, of the witnessed Steamboat eruptions, how many hit the seismo at beginning of water phase?
12:48:18 <ynpvisitor999®> was that Aurum a few seconds ago?
12:54:06 <Dave from B™> Sorry, DG...wasn't looking
12:54:52 <Kevin L™> It may have been. I was out for 5m.
12:54:55 <ynpvisitor999®> oh well, the daytime captures should have captured it, so not a big deal
12:55:37 <Dave from B™> DG, is it harder to see Steamboat on the seismo during the noisy daytime?
12:56:22 <Kevin L™> Looked like a Giantess boil just now DG
12:56:49 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll have a look at the seismo for the 0904 on June 4
12:57:54 <Dave from B™> That's still a little early for traffic noisy to show up
12:58:44 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll post a link to it anyway: https://www.isthisthingon.org/Yellowstone/wrapper.php?file=YNM_SHZ_WY_01-20180604.png
12:59:35 <Kevin L™> Did you see the post this morning showing the size of Yellowstone and the Netherlands?
13:00:08 <ynpvisitor999®> @ 0905 on that seismo is the water phase start, which dies down
13:00:13 <Jake> Dave, the last 3 seismo signatures from 5/27, 6/4 and 6/11 are different than the 3 before it in that they DO have a seismo bump for the start of water phase
13:00:21 <ynpvisitor999®> and no, I haven't, Kevin
13:00:24 <Jake> and then the steam phase is bigger
13:01:44 <Jake> the 5/4, 5/13, 5/19 seismos do not show the same initial bump and then big bump. it is unknown if those correspond to the start of water phase
13:02:19 <Dave from B™> Thanks
13:03:17 <ynpvisitor999®> then, @ 0930 the steam phase transition seems to begin at that time, gets noisy @ 0958 and then dies down until it becomes largely hidden about half an hour later.
13:04:14 <ynpvisitor999®> at least, that's how I interpret the graph given
13:04:30 <Kevin L™> Here you are DG: https://mapfight.appspot.com/yellowstone-vs-nl/yellowstone-national-park-netherlands-size-comparison
13:05:13 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
13:05:17 <Jake> hey, a Daisy!
13:06:02 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks Kevin
13:06:43 <Kevin L™> Gee, a Daisy. How novel!
13:07:02 <Betty> :daisy:
13:07:33 <ynpvisitor...> "Let a hundred flowers bloom..."
13:09:40 <Jake> Dave, the Steamboat seismo signal should be sustained enough to drown out the foot traffic with that windsock shape
13:09:55 <Jake> not sure what to describe the shape as, ideas?
13:12:04 <Dave from B™> Steamboat doesn't like midday eruptions
13:12:36 <Kevin L™> Steamboat doesn't like Dave
13:12:56 <Jake> it's safe to take a nap from 11am to 5pm!
13:13:20 <Kevin L™> But not on the bw!
13:13:26 <Michael> I was thinking something like a cattail, but the Steamboat graph usually doesn't get thick that abruptly.
13:13:36 <Kevin L™> Dave does know how to sleep in a car though.
13:15:27 <ynpvisitor999®> from when I still had geography, that Steamboat seismic signal seems to me it looks a bit like a horizontal urn-shaped graph, a bit like the right graph of this file: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Piramidy_wieku-mlode_i_stare.png
13:15:57 <ynpvisitor999®> graph -> population graph
13:17:02 <Eric> I heard from a wise source, you could sleep, just not enter REM sleep :-P
13:17:55 <Jake> hmm, "horizontal urn" is not very positive imagery!
13:18:27 <ynpvisitor999®> how should I else describe it then?
13:18:34 <Michael> I was thinking "tall thin mummy." Is that any better?
13:19:07 <Joe´> I saw a few people sleeping on the benches very uncomfortably on Sunday at steamboat :)
13:19:07 <Jake> so much death
13:20:37 <Kevin L™> When I was in the Army a judge in a war game commented that I was the only person he had ever seen that could work 24 hours straight and still get 8 hours sleep.
13:22:08 <Dave from B™> Jake, there has to be official seismo jargon for what that's called
13:24:44 <ynpvisitor999®> just did a quick search of seismo jargon. Ended up with oilfield jargon
13:24:55 <ynpvisitor999®> of -> on
13:26:04 <Dave from B™> https://www.google.com/search?q=official+seismograph+shapes&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS769US769&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5iePWzdbbAhXH64MKHbLvAKUQsAQIjgE&biw=1235&bih=944
13:26:10 <Jake> yes, it's called a bumpeebugaloo
13:26:10 <Dave from B™> answer has to be in there
13:26:34 <Dave from B™> Jake, that can't be a word:D:D
13:26:44 <Betty> GHP
13:27:10 <ynpvisitor...> "horizontal urn" sounds like a yoga pose
13:27:18 <Dave from B™> Beartooth Pass closed again
13:28:04 <Jake> how about "ponytail"?
13:28:19 <Dave from B™> Isn't a horizontal urn just an urn that has been knocked over?
13:29:43 <ynpvisitor...> ponytail isn't bad
13:30:07 <ynpvisitor77> what does the tantalus creek spike at noon today mean? besides that it saw lots of water??
13:30:09 <ynpvisitor77> ;0
13:30:30 <Jake> probably heavy rain
13:30:32 <Kevin L™> How about Steamboat Signature?
13:31:04 <ynpvisitor77> thanks Jake
13:31:22 <ynpvisitor999®> +1 from me, Kevin
13:31:31 <Dave from B™> Time for me to head out and do some errands. Have a great evening everyone!
13:31:39 <Jake> geyser eruption spikes are more horizontal on the left and tail off on the right, they aren't symmetrical like noon today
13:31:40 <ynpvisitor999®> same to you too, Dave
13:31:46 <Michael> I'm pretty sure there's a plant with the right shape, but I'm not thinking of it right now. An ear of corn isn't too far off.
13:31:52 <Michael> See you Dave.
13:32:05 <Kevin L™> Night Dave. Another football game tonight!
13:33:12 <Jake> bye Dave
13:34:29 <Jake> oops, I meant geyser eruption spikes are more VERTICAL on the left side....
13:34:34 <Jake> must be quitting time
13:34:57 <Dave from B™> Real American quality football starts in September
13:35:54 <Kevin L™> Not on my TV
13:43:19 <Graham> its the weekend!
13:43:36 <Kevin L™> Weekend?
13:44:28 <ynpvisitor...> You're just a young whipper-snapper. What you doing around here.
14:03:42 <Graham> worked from home so no hour drive ... weeee
14:04:06 <Kevin L™> That is nice.
14:10:57 <Betty> hi Graham
14:25:00 <ynpvisitor999®> something jetting in Daisy's area
14:26:14 <ynpvisitor999®> I wish there was playback for the stream
14:35:49 <ynpvisitor999®> looking at the reference image, could it actually be Comet that seemed to be jetting?
14:39:53 <Graham> comet puts up a lot of steam. i didnt see the jetting tho
14:40:34 <ynpvisitor999®> I saw it @ (late) 1624
14:42:34 <ynpvisitor48> riverside due
14:45:02 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll have a look at it again on 4x daytime captures tomorrow
14:46:54 <ynpvisitor999®> I hope it happens again sometime soon, so that I can kind-of compare the two events
14:50:40 <ynpvisitor999®> Dep?
14:50:42 <ynpvisitor999®> yes
14:50:50 <ynpvisitor999®> nice burst there from it
14:51:06 <Kevin L™> :thumbsup:
15:00:04 <ynpvisitor999®> I
15:00:12 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm calling it a day for today
15:00:19 <ynpvisitor999®> good night everyone
15:00:27 <Betty> goodnight
15:00:43 <Kevin L™> night
15:40:47 <ynpvisitor70> looks like steamboat just started
15:40:53 <ynpvisitor70> or something at norris is going on
15:41:38 <ynpvisitor84> Wow
15:42:01 <Kevin L™> That does look like it
15:42:08 <ynpvisitor48> 1701
15:43:13 <Kevin L™> It thought Dave was coming.
15:43:18 <ynpvisitor70> oh yes sorry
15:43:40 <Graham> or 1655?
15:43:49 <ynpvisitor70> Ill put 1655
15:43:55 <Graham> the 1624 post seems early
15:44:06 <ynpvisitor48> emily has it at 1624
15:44:13 <Emily> I messed up
15:44:23 <Emily> edited to 1655
15:44:27 <Kevin L™> Hope someone is there.
15:44:54 <Kevin L™> Faisy
15:45:06 <Kevin L™> 10275?
15:45:13 <Dave from B> That makes things intersting
15:45:15 <Graham> very early, so somewhat unlikely
15:45:26 <Dave from B> I just started picking random numbers
15:45:28 <Eric> That definitely looks active
15:45:50 <Eric> I think you are fine either way emily.....we can sort the exact time later
15:46:11 <Dave from B> Under 5 day interval
15:46:30 <Graham> thats good ... and bad
15:46:36 <Eric> I don't see tantalus creek behaving as we had an eruption
15:46:45 <Emily> that complicated things
15:46:54 <Emily> I am going to dinner
15:47:17 <Graham> 4d window isnt as good as 2
15:47:43 <Graham> maybe they are cleaning the bathrooms
15:48:05 <Eric> but with the rain it's difficult to tell
15:50:14 <Dave from B> Now, do people want to jump onboard and say getting the big 3 in less than 5 days is a real possibility?
15:50:22 <Eric> Maybe that is a large chinese tour group passing by?
15:53:04 <Betty> hi lc
15:53:11 <lc> hey everyone
15:53:19 <Eric> Nope...not even sure this is steamboat, guess we will see.
15:53:59 <lc> so, what are you looking at Eric?
15:54:50 <Eric> Well, the seismo looks like steamboat activity, but I am not see the corresponding tantalus creek spike yet.
15:55:15 <Eric> If the actual logger was working we could tell pretty easily.
15:57:14 <Graham> the seismo does have some broader blooming but maybe its just noisier
15:57:58 <lc> cb might be in the area but I doubt any other gazers are up there.
15:58:20 <Graham> thats what i was thinking lc, its rather early
15:58:59 <Graham> and if it dod go, a 4d window will drive people crazier
15:59:07 <Dave from B> Kevin, I'm in touch with kc and I have to leave. Can you text me when it's official so he can turn around. Not sure he is even out of CO yet.
15:59:12 <Eric> Well, with the super rapid cistern fill, i had no idea what to expect
15:59:27 <Graham> he called me and asked for a text
15:59:40 <Dave from B> His phone must be blowing up then
15:59:51 <Kevin L™> Will do
15:59:58 <Dave from B> Thanks
16:00:00 <Eric> haha
16:00:05 <Betty> I texted him too :-)
16:00:06 <Eric> poor KC
16:00:31 <Eric> I hope it's a false alarm
16:00:33 <Graham> this is his first attempt tho Dave, so he's not as experienced
16:00:35 <Dave from B> hahahaha...he wanted to make sure he got info.
16:00:36 <ynpvisitor89> On the GG FB page, Bruce Jensen did advise sitting on Steamboat about four hours ago.
16:01:34 <Dave from B> Graham, I missed that slam the first time I read that:D
16:01:41 <Kevin L™> That would have hurt!
16:01:49 <Graham> haha
16:01:59 <Eric> truthfully, that spike on tantalus around 11:50 looks more like an eruption
16:02:01 <Graham> well this could reset it to a better time for your next trip
16:02:12 <Graham> maybe it will do 5.5d +-1d
16:02:44 <lc> hope it don't mess up our whole trip.
16:02:45 <Graham> or maybe its ike BH and theshort indicator is the harbinger of behavior most people dont dare talk about
16:03:04 <Graham> i meant short interval
16:03:38 <lc> well it is a geyser. :p
16:06:28 <Dave from B> What a great year to be a gazer
16:06:55 <lc> somebody posted it on GT.
16:07:00 <Graham> someone osted an E time without the E
16:07:18 <Graham> not an in park report
16:07:39 <Graham> they say the stream gauge shows it too?
16:08:33 <ynpvisitor48> they read it wrong
16:08:39 <ynpvisitor90> Darn I was off by 2hours
16:09:16 <ynpvisitor90> It takes 45 min for it to get to the gage, right?
16:11:14 <Betty> headed out, bye all
16:11:55 <ynpvisitor48> the plot thickens
16:11:55 <Dave from B> I'm off as well
16:12:26 <lc> we will find out tomorrow.
16:13:52 <ynpvisitor90> Hopefully sooner than that - if anyone is there they will want to get the word out
16:14:03 <Graham> they even put a 35m duration on the E report
16:14:11 <Graham> which we know would be suspect
16:16:03 <ynpvisitor90> hope they put an E in there so we can see when primary reports come in (if they do)
16:16:22 <lc> anyone know the person that logged it?
16:17:14 <Graham> Brandon Holzer has only posted 3 entries to GT
16:17:47 <Graham> on-site report is likely to be ie
16:17:49 <lc> I noticed that Graham. makes my wonder.
16:18:24 <ynpvisitor48> I think it should be flagged tantalus does not figure in
16:23:05 <Graham> i see its gone
16:23:31 <ynpvisitor48> eric and I flagged it
16:23:39 <ynpvisitor68> Why does on site have to be ie? Tara’s day off, Beverlys there...I bet it’s been watched. Polly there most likely
16:23:41 <Graham> I gues this page doesnt show the E?
16:24:03 <Graham> depemnds on peoples endurance and interest in F&M and Giant
16:24:11 <Kevin L™> Interesting bump on the OF seismo about 1448 too.
16:24:47 <Graham> the interval is more then two days shorter than the shortest this year
16:24:50 <Eric> I flagged with comment that unless the observer was there, it should be changed to an Etime and duration removed.
16:24:55 <Graham> and its been raining
16:25:25 <Graham> i agtree with that Eric
16:26:17 <ynpvisitor48> I flagged it as a not in basin report and the tantalus creek reference was in error
16:26:45 <Eric> those are probably true.
16:26:47 <ynpvisitor90> Emily had the ? - that's fair
16:26:58 <Graham> looks like people are watching Giant .... F&M too early ... well it could go tomorrow if its cranky
16:27:06 <ynpvisitor48> yes hers fits
16:28:25 <Eric> here is a tantalus graph for the last 4 steamboat eruptions: https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwisweb/graph?agency_cd=USGS&site_no=06036940&parm_cd=00060&period=20
16:29:34 <Eric> That last spike in the graph is from 11:50 this morning
16:29:49 <Eric> maybe a really strong minor?
16:30:52 <Eric> Where is Bill? Logger data please :-D
16:31:50 <ynpvisitor90> a visual would be better
16:32:43 <lc> what are the spikes on 5/30 and 6/01?
16:34:25 <Emily> Giant?
16:34:43 <Emily> NAh
16:34:57 <Eric> I am not totally sure what the 5/31 and 6/1 spikes are lc...maybe minors?
16:35:14 <lc> 5/31
16:35:18 <Eric> I think grotto emily
16:35:58 <Emily> YES
16:36:01 <Eric> I suspect a strong minor can push enough water to affect the gauge.
16:36:02 <ynpvisitor48> too far right for Giant
16:36:04 <lc> thanks Eric
16:36:13 <Emily> caps lock too far
16:36:27 <Graham> did you mean the Daisy to be in-park Emily?
16:36:43 <Emily> no
16:36:47 <Eric> grotto and giant line up surprisingly well :-)
16:36:56 <Eric> It's marked E time graham
16:37:08 <Graham> magic :)
16:37:19 <Emily> I accidentily had caps lock on and typed like a blubbering idiot
16:37:55 <Graham> wrong Emily ... haha
16:38:43 <ynpvisitor90> THAT'S OK EMILY
16:38:44 <Emily> Its a common name. Here in colorado I have a mentor named emily, a fellow intern named emily and a grad student named emily then me
16:39:28 <Eric> ugg, and I cannot read what graham actually wrote :-(
16:39:38 <Eric> geeze.
16:41:56 <Graham> thats ok Eric, i cant read my writing either
16:43:12 <Emily> Frequency with wide windows is almost more of curse than consistency is
16:43:33 <Emily> is more of curse than consistncy is a blessing
16:43:48 <Emily> messes up all my plans :)
16:44:13 <Graham> all you have to do is plan to be there for a week, starting at day 3
16:44:23 <Graham> or longer
16:44:35 <Graham> back to the 80s
16:44:40 <Emily> Ill take my chances at day 6 I guess
16:44:48 <Emily> ill see what it does after this
16:44:53 <Graham> we have been spoiled with these short intervals
16:45:09 <Graham> short and regular
16:45:16 <ynpvisitor90> when is your trip Emily?
16:45:35 <lc> going to be tough on us old folks.
16:45:38 <Emily> July 4th ish
16:45:55 <Emily> I plan to be there during the window
16:46:03 <Emily> but the window could be the entire week
16:46:25 <ynpvisitor90> gotcha - you will have more information before then
16:46:26 <lc> I was calling for July 3, 1400.
16:46:52 <Graham> Gordon says the gauge is rising now?
16:48:13 <ynpvisitor90> where, on FB?
16:48:27 <Emily> I plan to go there when the window opens or rather time it as best as possible
16:48:55 <Graham> but who's definition of "window"
16:49:07 <Graham> yes he made the comment to Eric
16:49:11 <Emily> 2.5 days after cistern
16:49:50 <Graham> you have to pay Bruce a royalty for that prediction algorithm
16:50:17 <Emily> yes indeed
16:50:19 <Eric> So 71m from eruption to tantalus spike...just checked 6/4 eruption data
16:50:22 <Kevin L™> Window is about 12 hours before Dave is due to arrive there.
16:50:35 <ynpvisitor48> for a good placement of Giant look at may 23/24 overnight at 0223
16:51:07 <Eric> thanks 48
16:51:45 <Eric> we are almost 2 hours past the Etime and no spike
16:51:53 <Kevin L™> Has anyone in park mention Giantess. Looks like some good boils the last couple of days.
16:52:08 <Eric> ok...gotta run to dinner, Go Steamboat!
16:52:20 <Emily> see you Eric
16:53:00 <ynpvisitor90> Giantess would liven things up
16:53:19 <ynpvisitor90> same as Steamboat - active in the 80's for multiple eruptions
16:53:44 <ynpvisitor48> spike on tantalus creek now
16:54:16 <Emily> udo saw it
16:54:21 <Emily> see gt
16:54:26 <Kevin L™> My Brother's wife Asked my wife "They have a fridge and a microwave in the cabins, Right?".
16:55:23 <Kevin L™> Guess that answers that.
16:55:44 <Emily> he also posted the classic series of concerted minors leading to the eruption
16:56:02 <ynpvisitor48> nice that the seismo matches the reported time
16:57:58 <Graham> great to hear someone wasthere, I was worried it was too early for most to be there
16:58:23 <ynpvisitor48> 4d 15h 49min amazing
17:00:34 <ynpvisitor48> good catch Emily :)
17:00:57 <Emily> Oh, I saw it on facebook
17:01:03 <Emily> then went and posted it
17:01:33 <ynpvisitor48> thanks, I do not do FB
17:02:42 <Emily> news feed is useless. I like the geyser gazer groups, groups to go sell and buy stuff for hobbies and communicate with friends who i dont talk to often and thats it
17:04:28 <Graham> secomnd shortest interval on GT going back to 1911, shortest being 4d6h43m
17:04:46 <Emily> 3rd under 5 days
17:05:06 <ynpvisitor48> I'm one of those old fuddy-duddies to doesn't like to share that much information with Facebook :)
17:05:07 <Emily> Tsb posted that to fb
17:07:20 <Graham> 4th under 5 days, there was one 02 Jul 1964 @ 2130 4d 19h 15m
17:07:40 <Graham> its beyond the basic 100 eruption list
17:09:25 <ynpvisitor90> So Emily who noticed the seismo?
17:10:23 <Emily> Kurt Hoppe
17:11:18 <ynpvisitor90> interesting that people run to FB first
17:12:06 <Emily> Looks like Tara, Polly and Scott saw it too
17:12:31 <Emily> or at least confirm it per facebook
17:12:32 <ynpvisitor48> is that on the gazers private page?
17:13:00 <Emily> geyser gazer facebook group
17:13:14 <ynpvisitor48> Tks
17:16:39 <Emily> 90, I here you but a lot less people use gt to post I guess
17:18:19 <ynpvisitor41> So who had F&M then Steamboat?
17:18:55 <ynpvisitor89> I like both, since there is a nice discussion on FB.
17:18:56 <ynpvisitor41> Dave got jipped on his Fathers Day present.
17:19:43 <Emily> Beverlies, polly, udo, tara, scott
17:20:03 <Emily> gt
17:25:11 <ynpvisitor90> GOOD I am glad they were all there!
17:28:11 <Graham> they deserve it for being so early ..... but i am sorry more people didnt get to see it. GO STEAMBOAT
17:28:52 <ynpvisitor90> it wasn't early, it was right on time. Same as any geyser
17:28:58 <Emily> I would personally prefer consistency
17:29:10 <Emily> but frequency is fine too
17:29:21 <ynpvisitor90> Nice Save
17:30:21 <ynpvisitor41> I do not know much, however the notes looked good for the time it went.
17:30:43 <Emily> It recovere fast
17:31:48 <ynpvisitor90> 4-8 days is consistent. When/if we get to 4-21 days then the consistency complaints can begin
17:33:18 <Emily> To me, wathcing the speed of the recovery of steamboat seems to be the best indicator so far
17:36:18 <Emily> Ill do something more rigourous later but cistern overflows correspond to 2-3 days to the next eruption but I need to look at the math a lot better
17:36:59 <ynpvisitor41> Turban looks huge
17:37:07 <ynpvisitor69> :)
17:37:10 <Emily> grand
17:37:34 <ynpvisitor41> And all those people so far away from it
17:39:17 <ynpvisitor22> I hadn't anticipated for such a short interval. Oh well. Guess I should use a 5-6d interval next then.
17:39:59 <ynpvisitor41> I think one needs to look at the runoff channel notes.
17:40:15 <ynpvisitor41> Looks like Lions indy is going.
17:40:52 <ynpvisitor41> Well, it was
17:44:16 <ynpvisitor90> MK is a pretty good Giant indicator - think he is onto something
17:45:44 <ynpvisitor90> that was supposed to have a ? mark.
17:52:53 <kcmule> nice night for a drive
17:58:47 <Emily> well goodnight all. Have to be up at 230 for a flight
18:03:05 <Art> OMG just came here to say Steamboat :)
18:03:45 <Art> Wow 4 days, 15 hours, just so awesome
18:05:43 <kcmule> it went 5 minutes before I left to go see it
18:09:04 <ynpvisitor90> how far did you get?
18:11:10 <kcmule> only about an hour and 1/2.. for once I can be thankful for traffic! and Dave, Graham, and Betty to save me
18:12:06 <Art> Sorry you missed it.
18:12:16 <ynpvisitor17> Oh no!
18:13:02 <ynpvisitor90> does your schedule allow you to try again?
18:13:08 <ynpvisitor17> Well, good to get your weekend back? But now Steamboat could be off the weekend schedule! Unbelievable
18:13:55 <kcmule> all I know is that I am going to tie a really good one on right now
18:14:14 <kcmule> and figure out wtf later lol
18:14:18 <Craig> It went off right as I crossed the border from ND into Montana
18:14:36 <Craig> Staying in Glendive for the evening
18:17:40 <Craig> Daisy
18:18:11 <ynpvisitor90> A toast to Steamboat kcmule
18:18:34 <ynpvisitor90> or three :)
18:22:10 <ynpvisitor115> Must be sourdough toast 90.
18:23:56 <kcmule> cheers prost and slainte 90
18:24:48 <lc> I am amazed some gazers were there.
18:25:29 <lc> glad someone got it.
18:25:58 <lc> have a good night everyone.
18:37:04 <kcmule> Steamboat has not erupted on day 5 of any interval on gt.. I should have noticed that!! ;)
18:38:52 <ynpvisitor99> Steamboat has had a 4 day eruption I believe in the 80's
18:39:27 <ynpvisitor99> why does the cam feel out of focus?
18:39:57 <kcmule> yep 2
18:40:43 <kcmule> just eyeballing it this would be the 2nd shortest recorded int
18:40:58 <ynpvisitor99> Carol did post the quicker recovery of Cistern Spring
18:43:54 <kcmule> it made me nervous then, now I know why
18:46:01 <kcmule> the 4 day'ers in 82 were followed by a 6d and 10d, not sure if there if there is anything to glean from that
18:50:25 <kcmule> if I plan to be up there for day 4 the dam thing will go day 3 is what I'm gleaning about now..
18:53:27 <Kevin L™> You need to quit hanging around Dave
18:55:27 <kcmule> he was having his first son on same day I was missing the 'boat by 5 hours in 2000, pretty sure that's right
18:56:49 <kcmule> I didn't even know what Steamboat geyser was back then, it was my 1st visit
19:01:27 <Kevin L™> That is a bummer.
19:05:30 <kcmule> that was an 8 year interval, and we were happy to catch awesome steam
19:06:11 <kcmule> hoped to parlay that karma
19:06:53 <Kevin L™> Well you still have a chance.
19:08:13 <kcmule> how would u play the next roll KL ?
19:09:54 <Kevin L™> I would take a look at the Cistern fill. That seems to be the best indicator. CB does give some great information too about minors increasing.
19:15:18 <kcmule> I absolutely will, it may dictate a bunch of stuff over coming days
19:15:30 <kcmule> amigo arrived bbl
19:25:16 <ynpvisitor37> did kc turn around?
19:25:34 <Kevin L™> Yes
19:25:52 <ynpvisitor37> oh good. I hope he had not gotten too far from Denver
19:30:34 <Kevin L™> I just realized that we are in a BH window.
19:32:42 <Craig> It's so good to be back in mountain time. Adding by one was becoming exhausting ;P
20:20:08 <Kevin L™> BH'
20:20:11 <Kevin L™> .
20:20:12 <Kevin L™> .
20:20:12 <Kevin L™> .
20:22:34 <kc (away)> nice light this guy is packing
20:23:06 <Kevin L™> Aiming at the wrong thing
21:54:42 <kc (away)> OF