Showing logs for date: 2018-07-12
04:04:52 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
04:40:43 <ynpvisitor999®> the boardwalk appears to be splippery
04:40:47 <ynpvisitor999®> slippery*
04:41:21 <ynpvisitor999®> probably hit below 32°F this night
04:52:11 <ynpvisitor16> the last Grand, interval 7h 59min, was the longest interval in the last 100
04:53:08 <ynpvisitor16> is Dave from B returning to the basin?
05:05:17 <Dave from Bâ„¢> haha 16....You will have to blame this one on someone else
05:05:26 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Good morning everyone
05:06:04 <ynpvisitor16> Morning Dave
05:06:52 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Dave
05:22:45 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
05:30:12 <ynpvisitor68> Dave had all good luck with Grand if I remember correctly
05:32:17 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Even had 3 2b's in a row at one point
05:54:20 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Morning Bill. What have you been up to?
05:54:45 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Bill
05:56:22 <Bill> Morning
05:56:40 <Bill> A lot of field work lately. Today is finally an office day.
06:06:04 <Kent> Bill, did you get you photos for the 3D image of Cistern?
06:07:05 <Bill> Photos, yes. 3D image, not yet.
06:07:42 <Bill> It's going to require some time and know-how of the software. Neither of which i have right now.
06:08:05 <Kent> Good to know. I am looking forward to seeing it when you get it together.
06:25:49 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Mike
06:27:00 <ynpvisitor999®> fluffy
06:27:13 <ynpvisitor16> very fluffy
06:28:30 <Kent> A real cottonball
06:33:26 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Jake and sparekitty
06:33:35 <Jake> I'm requesting a Giant eruption today so when I'm there next week it will already have passed its shortest interval and be ready to go
06:34:09 <Mike J> Morning 999, et al
06:37:09 <sparekitty> good morning from humid, sticky pasadena!
06:37:40 <Jake> morning all
06:39:00 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Sorry, Jake...not going to happen
06:40:07 <Jake> fine, I will also accept tomorrow
06:40:32 <ynpvisitor999®> I think Giant will go in about 3 to 5 days from now, followed by a 6-9 day interval
06:40:50 <ynpvisitor999®> and then a 10-15 day interval
06:43:46 <ynpvisitor67> I can relate sparekitty 87° here today with 52% humidity. Going to be a :p day.
06:44:46 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Kevin
06:44:54 <Kevin L°> hi
06:45:38 <Dave from Bâ„¢> sparekitty, I thought you lived in Montana
06:47:05 <Mike J> 99 degrees, 47% humidity in Phoenix. Just saying.
06:47:18 <Jake> that is some very specific predicting, 999, based on what?
06:47:58 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I can relate Mike. Don't like monsoon season.
06:49:19 <Mike J> Kevin, I figured you guys were going through it, too. But I like the rain that comes with it. And, boy do we need it.
06:50:06 <ynpvisitor999®> to me it seems (even though the data points are scarce) Giant is erupting in a series of three, where each succeding interval is shorter than the one before. The interval between series end-series start seems to shorten as the active phase progresses (and thus I expect that the series distinction will go away completely)
06:52:06 <ynpvisitor999®> Though that's based on what I've seen so far, and it could very well be (very likely, actually) that the intervals are completely random
06:53:13 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Haven't had much rain Mike, just humidity. We did have a bit the other day but not much.
07:14:50 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Jimbo
07:15:05 <Jimbo Lutetium> Hello
07:22:25 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Jimbo, I think you're making this stuff up!:)
07:22:55 <Jimbo Lutetium> The rare earths have some unusual names
07:23:16 <Jimbo Lutetium> Not all of them are named for Ytterby
07:38:53 <Emily> hi
07:38:59 <Emily> Am I here all the time?
07:39:07 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Emily
07:39:24 <Emily> Morning DG
07:51:23 <ynpvisitor999®> F&M event cycle @ 0806
07:51:52 <Emily> Needs a few more days. thats the best observed thing in a few days
07:51:58 <Emily> from down there
07:54:18 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Hello Daisy
07:55:51 <Jimbo Lutetium> Emily, if you don't close your browser (even if you close the chat.geysertimes.org window), it will "remember" you next time.
07:56:25 <Emily> ok
07:56:39 <Emily> I havent closed it or cleared cookies.
08:28:37 <Dave from Bâ„¢> I'm very curious to see what communications upgrade at Washburn does to service at communities in the park
08:50:40 <Jake> with upgrades to the OF tower, it improved carrying capacity (used to be no service between 10am and 6pm even for Verizon) but not range as far as I could tell
08:51:09 <Jake> I don't know the technical differences between OF's tower and what they're doing at Washburn
08:58:00 <ynpvisitor47> Washburn, is that the one that give service by Roosevelt?
08:58:46 <Jake> probably
08:58:57 <ynpvisitor47> Interesting someone was off by 4 minutes on their BH guess yesterday.
08:59:29 <ynpvisitor47> I was surprised there was service in that part of the park.
09:00:03 <ynpvisitor47> Who ever it was said 1 am and no moon.
09:01:01 <Jake> I don't know where the tower is that services Mammoth. It's possible that's the one that reaches Roosevelt
09:02:29 <ynpvisitor47> I would doubt it, it is farther east where the best service is.
09:05:06 <Jake> Eric showed this trick. Use Google Maps and turn on traffic, wherever there is traffic info, there's cell service: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.8300253,-110.5266371,11.25z/data=!5m1!1e1
09:06:08 <Jake> so service around the Hellroaring TH and in Little America by Junction Butte
09:07:13 <Jake> then all the way from Tower Falls to mid Hayden Valley with a break from Chittenden Bridge to Otter Creek
09:11:04 <ynpvisitor999®> just looked up my own country with traffic turned on. Unsurprisingly all major roads are covered. It's actually a goal to have by some year at least 97% of the Netherlands covered with cellphone service
09:11:33 <ynpvisitor47> I don't believe it. I did not have service in places it was yellow.
09:13:20 <Jake> the yellow is the map color for highways
09:13:33 <Jake> so it's the green/orange/red that suggests cell service
09:13:56 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Jake,I believe Washburn communications tower is important for all areas of the park.
09:14:19 <ynpvisitor47> Well, it does not show service in places I know I have service.
09:15:14 <Jake> and the map has to be zoomed in enough for traffic data to show up around Tower. It's a crude measure of where there's service. This from devices that have GPS turned on and are likely in moving vehicles so there are other factors at play
09:15:19 <ynpvisitor47> So with anything google, you can not trust it to be correct.
09:18:37 <Jake> it does a good job of approximating what I've found to be the boundaries of service. Signal is very dependent on line of sight and topography so the short stretches or pullouts with signal won't show up
09:19:12 <Jake> Google is likely receiving data at those locations but they're data cleanup process would filter it out since it doesn't say enough about traffic speeds
09:19:24 <Jake> *their, argh!
09:19:29 <ynpvisitor47> They must have a high threshold for activity. I know a city that has service and it is not green or any color. There are only about 1500 people in the entire county.
09:20:46 <ynpvisitor47> So for deciding if you would have cell service the map does not work well.
09:21:06 <Jake> or, if it's a rural community they may not have enough people with devices running GPS & Google Maps all the time
09:21:32 <Jake> here's a crowd sourced map: https://opensignal.com/networks/usa/verizon-coverage
09:21:48 <Jake> it lights up the road to Slough Creek as having good coverage
09:22:09 <Jake> Slough Creek campground, that is
09:22:48 <Mike J> So, if you don't have Verizon, you're coverage/access will not be this good, correct?
09:23:46 <Jake> correct, forget about getting data coverage let alone making a call or text if you don't have Verizon. Based on all the people I've talked to
09:23:55 <Jake> certainly it's that way at OF
09:24:27 <Jake> Mammoth/Gardiner might support other carriers better
09:24:31 <Jake> or West
09:24:37 <Mike J> My wife had us switch about 6 months ago. I knew I wasn't going to like ti.
09:24:39 <Mike J> it
09:24:57 <Jake> Verizon is #1 in the rural western US
09:24:57 <Kevin Lâ„¢> My Brother has T Mobile and the only place he got service was on the BW between BH and Aurum.
09:25:15 <ynpvisitor47> A web page that points to a app, how great.
09:25:29 <Jake> Kevin, during the day?
09:25:34 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Yes
09:25:42 <Jake> a consistent signal?
09:25:46 <Kevin Lâ„¢> He was even getting data from GT
09:25:56 <ynpvisitor47> He must be one of the chosen!
09:25:58 <Kevin Lâ„¢> It was slow but consistant
09:26:03 <Jake> wow, talk about a Yellowstone HOT SPOT!
09:26:15 <Jake> no wonder the boardwalk is so crowded by BH
09:27:03 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Only way we figured it out was he got text messages up there.
09:43:56 <ynpvisitor...â„> I wish they would train the guys in the orange shirts to clean the dome.
09:46:04 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Kent, I'm not even sure oven cleaner would work at this point
09:48:31 <ynpvisitor47> Maybe acetone would help.
09:49:30 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Tannerite?
09:49:53 <Jake> an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, RainX
09:50:02 <ynpvisitor...â„> I am hoping since the dome is plastic the silica hasn't fused with the surface. Abrasion is about all I can think of as working.
09:50:33 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Dome is plastic. RainX won't work. :(
09:50:51 <ynpvisitor47> Kevin should have taken a head light restoration kit.
09:51:27 <Jake> RainY
09:51:37 <Kevin Lâ„¢> That may do it, but with costs I think a whole new dome may be cheaper than fixing this one.
09:51:57 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Maybe RainP?
09:52:28 <ynpvisitor47> If they start the environmental assessment, it may get replaced in a year or 2.
09:53:06 <Kevin L™> Loosen it and turn it 180°? Backside is clean.
09:53:21 <ynpvisitor...â„> You would think with all the traffic that Canon would want their camera shown to the best advantage.
09:53:39 <ynpvisitor...â„> That's a good idea.
09:53:49 <Jake> perhaps just better mechanical advantage would do it. A dome shaped brush or getting up there in person. The rag on a stick method has to be lacking
09:54:10 <ynpvisitor59> they cleaned it with some cleaner solution about a month ago, it worked good but they have not used cleacer solution since. For most people it would be hard to clean. https://imgur.com/a/u4Hmxsi
09:54:23 <Kevin Lâ„¢> It is stunning how many hits this cam gets. The only nps page that gets more hits is nps.gov
09:54:57 <ynpvisitor47> I think even in Wyoming, they have ladders.
09:56:00 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I think they have to use a bucket truck or a lift for this due to osha regs.
09:56:12 <ynpvisitor59> Park service, gov't, ladders and amount of people required, impossible
09:57:17 <Jake> who wants to go in on this for the VEC? https://www.dotworkz.com/domecleaner/
09:58:41 <ynpvisitor59> they have one of those, they rarely use cleaning solution with it
09:59:26 <ynpvisitor47> Well, enjoy Lion.
10:00:40 <Jake> did they run out of solution? or just don't use it?
10:04:07 <ynpvisitor59> just dont use it
10:05:08 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I think that they used solution on the last cleaning, but the dome is just really crusty. I did forward that link to the cam guy Jake. It looks like it may be better than the one they are using now.
10:06:30 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Is there a ranked listed of top streaming webcams in the world based on hits?
10:06:55 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I am sure there is somewhere
10:07:28 <ynpvisitor59> They send out one Ranger with the cleaning poll and nothing else, and he rubs the dome, other than one time I have never seen any cleaning solution, I know this because I've swung the camera down on them while cleaning.
10:07:29 <ynpvisitor60> https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/top-live-cams.html
10:07:45 <ynpvisitor59> pole*
10:07:48 <ynpvisitor60> Looks like it is biased towards European tourist sites
10:13:23 <ynpvisitor60> PureTi makes a self-cleaning spray on coating that might help, if the dirt is not calcium oxide scale. Can be sprayed onto a clean surface and keeps it clean
10:13:59 <ynpvisitor60> Take a look at pureti.com - I've been to their facility, and their products do keep surfaces clean.
10:14:07 <ynpvisitor60> (I don't work for them)
10:14:14 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I will check it out.
10:14:42 <ynpvisitor60> Works wonders on the inside of car windows, etc. For calcium oxide scale, would RainX work?
10:15:19 <Kevin Lâ„¢> RainX won't work on plastic
10:16:32 <Kevin Lâ„¢> FYI Walmart has T Scott's book for sale online for $19.43.
10:16:36 <Kevin Lâ„¢> https://www.walmart.com/ip/The-Geysers-of-Yellowstone-Fourth-Edition/10215108
10:17:13 <Kevin Lâ„¢> That is the 4th edition so I would keep checking for the new version.
10:23:45 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Grand is pulling another long interval.
10:25:08 <ynpvisitor60> Still in the window
10:25:27 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Over 7h though.
10:25:41 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Becca broke it.
10:26:44 <ynpvisitor59> I knew Dave figured in there somewhere
10:27:40 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Aurum
10:27:41 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
10:27:42 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
10:27:42 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
10:27:43 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
10:27:51 <ynpvisitor999®> yay
10:27:54 <ynpvisitor59> Nice
10:28:23 <ynpvisitor59> how did that happen, Kevin
10:28:47 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Not sure. That seemed short even for Aurum
10:28:52 <ynpvisitor...â„> Delay and pings saved me:thumbsup::thumbsup:
10:29:23 <ynpvisitor59> nice catch:thumbsup:
10:29:27 <Kevin Lâ„¢> It is always fun to catch Aurum.
10:29:33 <ynpvisitor...â„> Yes
10:30:12 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Both in person and on the cam.
10:30:35 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
10:30:37 <ynpvisitor59> Daisy
10:36:37 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Looks like Turban
10:36:39 <ynpvisitor999®> and yet another Turban
10:36:57 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Bruce
10:37:14 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Hi Bruce
10:37:38 <brucej> hi!
10:38:29 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Bruce, are you returning to YNP this year?
10:38:44 <brucej> My son and his friends are at Grand right now, so I'm enjoying vicariously :-)
10:39:26 <brucej> If Steamboat and Giant hang in there, I will probably return. I just spent a bunch of time in Hawaii, so I need to work a little first.
10:40:45 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Did you get to see the volcano?
10:40:47 <Dave from Bâ„¢> What islands did you visit?
10:46:07 <brucej> Well - seeing the volcano was a nontrivial and expensive task, but yes - we could not hike to any views of flowing lava, so we took a lava boat to see the ocean entry and a helicopter to see the fissure and flows. poor views form the copter, but better than nothing.
10:46:39 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Still sounds like fun.
10:50:14 <brucej> It was. next time, if there is one, I'll get a doors-off flight. Much better views.
10:51:31 <Dave from Bâ„¢> With a seat belt, I hope!
10:51:50 <brucej> We went to Hawaii, Maui and Kauai. I personally thought Hawaii had the best overall collection fo stuff to see, but the other two were great too. The Road to Hana on Maui was really neat, so much to see and do. Waterfalls everywhere, tropical jungle, a real stretch of eye candy.
10:52:14 <Kevin Lâ„¢> First time I did a doors open flight in a copter I was scared to death. Got to enjoy it quickly. (I was in an air moblie unit in the 1st
10:52:23 <brucej> Seat belts? We don't need to stinking seat belts!:p
10:52:25 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Cav
10:52:35 <ynpvisitor69> prediction question: NPS has one for Great Fountain, geysertimes does not. Is there a reason?
10:53:45 <brucej> Kevin L, I'm pretty unafraid in those situations - but I surely get your angst.
10:54:13 <brucej> NPS may have an electronic for Great Fountain that GT did not pick up?
10:54:53 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't think GT predicts GF eruptions anymore
10:55:25 <ynpvisitor999®> though I have no idea why not, make Jake can provide an answer?
10:55:37 <Kevin Lâ„¢> It didn't take me long to get used to it. I really miss those flights now.
10:55:45 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand
10:56:06 <ynpvisitor999®> in an OF window, of course
10:57:08 <brucej> Of course!!!!
10:57:29 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Joe or DaveM, if you are on, we are having some heavy rain right now. If you can set up your controls in case I lose power I would appreciate it.
10:57:59 <ynpvisitor59> OK Kevin, this is Joe
10:58:34 <ynpvisitor59> ready if needed
10:58:40 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Thanks. Don't know if it will go out, but there is a red cell over me right now.
10:58:56 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I will text you if I go down.
10:59:03 <ynpvisitor59> ok
11:00:15 <Kevin L™> Temp has dropped 20° in an hour.
11:00:41 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Kevin, keep your seat belt on:)
11:00:49 <ynpvisitor59> get out your jacket :)
11:01:41 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I am sure my chickens are happy.
11:05:33 <ynpvisitor999®> 10m
11:05:54 <ynpvisitor999®> b1 done
11:07:02 <brucej> One and done?
11:07:15 <ynpvisitor999®> appears to be the case
11:07:57 <brucej> Ah well - cest la vie.
11:08:14 <ynpvisitor...â„> Kevin, Please take your aluminum foil helmet off!
11:08:17 <brucej> I gotta get lunch - back after a bit.
11:10:06 <ynpvisitor...â„> I'm concerned that the propeller might act as a lightning rod.
11:10:50 <Jimbo Lutetium> Geyser is the same in English and French, so c'est le geyser
11:11:48 <ynpvisitor...â„> We need someone to pronounce it properly for us :)
11:12:12 <ynpvisitor...â„> 1311 on Fluff wc my box
11:15:47 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Not sure if park visitation for June was mentioned here yet or not byt YTD visitation up 2.5% from 2017. 2nd busiest June ever behind 2016 NPS 100th anniv year
11:15:56 <Kevin Lâ„¢> We have had an inch of rain in the last hour.
11:16:16 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Is that your chickens I see floating by?
11:16:38 <ynpvisitor999®> ah, so that's where all our rain went
11:16:48 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I thought they were ducks for a minute.
11:16:57 <ynpvisitor...â„> I was just going to ask if chickens float
11:17:09 <ynpvisitor59> Boiled chicken
11:18:18 <ynpvisitor999®> by the way, the primary Bulger 1220 ie maj duplicates the primary Bulger 1217 maj
11:22:07 <Jimbo Lutetium> Kevin, are you southeast of downtown Vegas?
11:23:27 <Dave from Bâ„¢> He lives in the town named after Mrs. Brady from the Brady Bunch
11:24:03 <Jimbo Lutetium> Got it
11:24:32 <Jimbo Lutetium> Yeah, that's where the flash flood warning was posted
11:25:00 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I am south of Vegas at the SE limits of Henderson.
11:25:12 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Railroad Pass area.
11:25:49 <Kevin Lâ„¢> BH not looking too perky
11:26:02 <Dave from Bâ„¢> So, we're all meeting at Steamboat on Sunday?:)
11:26:46 <ge> Wish i could be there
11:26:57 <ynpvisitor59> is SB active again
11:27:11 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Yes
11:27:59 <Jake> GT doesn't have a Great Fountain prediction because I haven't set it up and I don't want to just copy the VEC's and it looks like it needs some real analysis to do it right
11:28:34 <Jake> it did have a prediction for it last year
11:49:57 <ynpvisitor...â„> Isn't there a dry lake on the other side of Railroad Pass that get really strange critters in it when it rains? I am thinking horseshoe crabs but that can't be right.
11:51:00 <Kevin Lâ„¢> If you are talking about the Eldorado Dry lake, yes it does.
11:51:13 <lori> Thanks, Jake. Appreciate all you do!
11:51:34 <ynpvisitor...â„> I couldn't find it on Google
11:52:29 <Kevin Lâ„¢> They have some small shrimp that hatch and have a short life. The eggs can be dry for a long time and still hatch. Once they grow a lot of small long legged water birds munch them.
11:54:02 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Also works great to launch model rockets when it is dry.
11:55:45 <ynpvisitor...â„> Found it: http://www.birdandhike.com/Wildlife/Invert/Ph_Arthropoda/SubP_Crustacea/Cl_Branchiopoda/Shrimp_Tadpole/_shrimp_tad.htm
11:56:12 <ynpvisitor...â„> Thanks. It would have annoyed me the rest of the day.
11:57:47 <Kevin Lâ„¢> That is the one.
11:58:19 <Dave from Bâ„¢> I'm not swimming in that lake
11:59:49 <Kevin Lâ„¢> It is really fun for model rockets. Very seldom lose one and the kids can usually get to them and catch them before they land.
12:07:02 <Jimbo Lutetium> ynpvisitor...â„¢, horseshoe crabs show up in the Chesapeake and Delaware Bay beaches, FYI
12:10:04 <Betty> good afternoon all
12:10:11 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Hi
12:10:26 <ynpvisitor999®> evening Betty
12:10:28 <Betty> hey Kevin
12:10:37 <Betty> hi DG
12:13:22 <Betty> LC ie
12:14:07 <Dave from Bâ„¢> That's a bright shirt
12:14:27 <Betty> hey Dave
12:18:21 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Hi Betty...Becca should be back in Montana now
12:27:53 <ynpvisitor9> Time for BH.
12:42:02 <ynpvisitor59> OF1441
12:52:03 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Early Daisy
12:52:03 <ynpvisitor59> Daisy
12:52:06 <Betty> Daisy
12:53:29 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Didn't expect it for at least a half hour.
12:54:53 <Kevin Lâ„¢> indy
12:54:54 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
12:54:55 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
12:54:55 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
12:54:56 <Kevin Lâ„¢> .
12:55:13 <Betty> Kitt is a bit early
12:55:36 <ynpvisitor9> If you say so, i am on the delayed page
12:55:57 <Betty> she noticed it7
12:57:18 <ynpvisitor...â„> Big fan of RainedOut. ty
12:58:42 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
12:59:39 <ynpvisitor...â„> We need a sound file on the dashboard that we can click on when Beehive starts.
13:00:36 <ynpvisitor9> Lion trying?
13:01:53 <ynpvisitor9> Look at all those people checking email?
13:02:02 <Kent> :)
13:03:33 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't think we can expect Lion for about 2-3 hours from now
13:03:59 <Jake> so many T Mobile users
13:04:59 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Bee sound link is next
13:05:01 <Dave from Bâ„¢> https://www.soundsnap.com/tags/bee
13:05:14 <ynpvisitor9> I like the delay, hope BH is not over before i see it.
13:06:32 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Lot of customers for BH today.
13:07:15 <Kent> Kids will probably remember this
13:07:19 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
13:07:56 <ynpvisitor999®> needs more jumper cables
13:08:02 <Dave from Bâ„¢> bzzzzzzzzzz
13:08:08 <ynpvisitor9> Slow start
13:08:23 <Dave from Bâ„¢> I wonder how old BH is
13:08:49 <ynpvisitor9> Good middle
13:09:04 <ynpvisitor9> Not quit as old as Kevin?
13:09:16 <KarlH> That's a big one.
13:10:05 <ynpvisitor9> Maybe about as old as the salty they caught in OZ?
13:10:43 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Wind is erratic
13:11:01 <KarlH> Getting the folks on the other side of the river wet today.
13:11:04 <ynpvisitor9> Look at that jam up, think there is a ranger telling people to keep moving?
13:11:20 <Kent> UGB is an amazing place.
13:11:42 <ynpvisitor60> rangers don't move people at Beehive.
13:11:46 <Jake> Today's eruption is brought to you by T-Mobile. When you need service on Geyser Hill (and ONLY Geyser Hill) use T-Mobile.
13:11:50 <KarlH> ^^truth^^
13:12:14 <KarlH> "truth" on the rangers not moving people - not on the T-Mobile ad. :)
13:13:05 <Jake> not true, I've seen rangers yell at someone to get back on the boardwalk when he ran off towards Giantess in the mayhem to get away from the Bee shower
13:13:38 <ynpvisitor9> So Verizon causes false indys?
13:14:07 <ynpvisitor9> Well enjoy Lion. Time to let the dog take me for a walk.
13:14:28 <Jimbo Lutetium> One Web reference with unverified information says Castle is between 5-15,000 years old.
13:14:33 <ynpvisitor60> Well - anyone getting off the boardwalk is a LOT different than just crowding the boardwalk.
13:14:53 <Jake> I've only seen rangers directing traffic to keep an "aisle" clear and inform people about wind direction and getting wet
13:15:17 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Odd. Cooler here than in the park
13:15:21 <ynpvisitor60> You're one up on me - I've never seen that.
13:15:41 <Jake> which I think is appropriate and I try to do it myself when there's less mobile people out there in a bad place
13:16:10 <Jake> just inform them and leave them with a "you'll be sorry" kind of talk :D
13:16:30 <Jake> about half of people move before the eruption
13:16:52 <Jake> the other half move during as they get wet
13:17:34 <ynpvisitor60> Yepp :thumbsup:
13:18:42 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Watching BH is like holding a baby. Sooner or later you are going to get wet.
13:19:23 <ynpvisitor60> ;):lol:
13:20:42 <Betty> time for sleep, see ya
13:21:00 <ynpvisitor999®> night Betty
13:21:18 <ynpvisitor60> Good night, Betty - :heart:
13:21:32 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Night
13:34:06 <ynpvisitor60> Report of GFountain at 1318. That means next play around midnight or after, probably.
13:34:42 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Should have zoomed to it after BH.
13:34:57 <ynpvisitor60> !!!
13:35:31 <lori> Wouldn't that be ice!
13:35:44 <ynpvisitor60> Yeah! :-D
13:36:17 <lori> oops, lost my name again, and that should be "nice"
13:36:28 <Kevin Lâ„¢> That one would be a good one for a solar powered static cam.
13:37:02 <ynpvisitor60> Agreed. And Fountain also.
13:37:23 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Yes
13:38:05 <ynpvisitor60> And while we're on this - why not Steamboat? At least this summer.
13:38:45 <Kevin Lâ„¢> YES!
13:39:22 <ynpvisitor60> With cameras on these, you get GF overflows, meter boils, Steamboat concerted play cycles and - nice pics of Fountain :-)
13:43:14 <Dave from Bâ„¢> 60, you're not going to get anyone opposed to that in this room:)
13:44:28 <ynpvisitor60> Yay! Artemisia, F&M, Giant Platform...
13:45:13 <ynpvisitor60> Sponge...
13:45:53 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Aurum would be nice
13:47:55 <ynpvisitor999®> Two camera for Norris would be nice
13:48:03 <ynpvisitor999®> one for NPR and one for NBK
13:48:21 <ynpvisitor60> right there with ya.
13:49:43 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I would not be surprised to see one at Norris. They haave power and telephone.
13:49:53 <ynpvisitor60> We have no reports from Steamboat this morning. That's a little concerning.
13:51:50 <ynpvisitor999®> I hope a few roll in in the next couple of hours. Seomthing similar happened yesterday. So far I'm not really concerned for SB's activity, and YNM and YNR should pick up a major from SB.
13:54:38 <Dave from Bâ„¢> I'm guessing cb and Bill are enjoying the day in their kayak at West Thumb but that is only a guess.
13:55:02 <ynpvisitor60> yeah, I'm more interested in timing of Cistern refill and rebuild of play in the Steamboat vents. Yesterday Cistern was STILL down, other springs were vexed, and Steamboat was very quiet.
13:55:07 <Dave from Bâ„¢> Time for me to head out. Have a great evening everyone!
13:55:19 <ynpvisitor60> Bye, Dave! Cheers!
13:55:26 <ynpvisitor999®> same to you, Dave
13:55:26 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Night Dave
14:15:03 <ynpvisitor999®> Norris notes are in
14:15:20 <BruceJ> Awesome!
14:15:33 <ynpvisitor999®> Cistern still at the same level as yesterday, though :(
14:15:49 <BruceJ> Yep - just have to wait it out.
14:16:16 <ynpvisitor999®> I guess it's still recovering from the disturbance then
14:16:57 <BruceJ> Or maybe still in the disturbance. Other springs are likewise upset today.
14:39:23 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm calling it a day. Have a great evening all
14:54:26 <Bill> Oh! Guess i could upload that sensor data from the last eruption!
14:59:43 <ynpvisitor102> Approximately 38" down. I am amused, but also grateful for the report.
15:01:36 <ynpvisitor100> Amused? that's one way to put it ;-)
15:02:42 <ynpvisitor102> Some people have a good sense of smell and others a killer eye for distance.
15:03:07 <ynpvisitor100> :D
15:03:44 <ynpvisitor68> Hey, better than no report! I chuckled at that too.
15:04:02 <Bill> We may try to put a pressure/depth sensor in Cistern some time in the near-ish future
15:04:34 <ynpvisitor100> "Cistern's smelling a bit low today...must be half empty..." I thin a pressure depth sensor would be the :bee:s knees.
15:04:42 <Bill> Also, new data up for Cistern, Echinus, Steam Valve, Steamboat, and a couple of other features between Steamboat and the parking lot.
15:04:43 <Bill> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1HWMHC-olItRLow6F6df0byxuoRphRcuy
15:04:54 <ynpvisitor100> Yay!
15:05:07 <ynpvisitor68> I wonder how you get a sensor in there we would not see?
15:05:36 <Bill> there's an overhang toward the overlook
15:05:51 <Bill> I'm not super keen on going in there to install it though
15:06:10 <ynpvisitor102> I don't mind seeing sensors one bit. No sensor means ignorance.
15:06:15 <ynpvisitor68> I bet
15:06:17 <ynpvisitor100> Cistern also VERY occasionally erupts.
15:06:27 <ynpvisitor68> Just stop 102
15:06:45 <Bill> Everything NPS is visitor first. We dont want to disrupt anything or have visitors see sensors
15:06:52 <ynpvisitor100> Censor the sensors?
15:07:04 <ynpvisitor68> No sensor not in many features
15:08:14 <ynpvisitor68> Or many features have no sensors
15:08:46 <ynpvisitor100> Very few have them in the craters or vents. Mostly in runoff channels.
15:08:51 <Kevin Lâ„¢> I sure can't see the one at Aurum :)
15:10:41 <Bill> Some of them are going to be moved around a bit since I have more control of their locations these days
15:10:56 <Bill> Echinus is going to be moved from the creek runoff near echinus into the echinus drainage
15:10:57 <ynpvisitor42> daisy
15:11:05 <ynpvisitor100> Something is playing downbasin.
15:11:18 <ynpvisitor100> :daisy:
15:53:44 <ynpvisitor100> There is a newish GT entry for 1642 that suggests Cistern *may* have risen a bit since this morning's observation, although the accompanying narrative belies that implication by saying it looks the same as yesterday. I guess we'll need to wait and see again.
16:15:15 <ynpvisitor42> Lion
16:56:29 <kcmule> grand ie
17:33:42 <lori> lion ie, my computer clock is messed up
17:35:09 <lori> OF
17:35:30 <lori> I looked away...
19:46:28 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Daisy ie
19:47:01 <Kevin Lâ„¢> Nope, Spasmodic. Getting dark!