Showing logs for date: 2018-07-20
01:24:38 <ynpvisitor8> OF
06:21:06 <ynpvisitor111> On July 20, 1969, Neil Armstrong and pilot Buzz Aldrin, touched down in the lunar module Eagle on the Sea of Tranquillity.
06:27:47 <ynpvisitor111>
06:30:39 <Betty> Grand
06:30:52 <Betty> the cloud was great
06:33:57 <ynpvisitor39> wow, a series of 4 or 5 Lions overnight
06:34:27 <ynpvisitor111>
06:40:21 <ynpvisitor111> the basin elves may have caught this Grand
06:40:46 <Betty> I think they did
06:48:31 <ynpvisitor999®> The first heat wave of this year has been predicted to take shape in the next few weeks. Ugh... And it could be the longest recorded one too :(
06:48:57 <ynpvisitor999®> Anyway, good morning everyone and good afternoon Betty
06:49:21 <Betty> hi DG
06:49:56 <Betty> we have already 31°C here
06:50:09 <Betty> Dome ie
06:50:42 <ynpvisitor111> Hi DG, Betty and numbers, Has anyone seen Eric lately?
06:51:13 <ynpvisitor999®> I haven't
06:51:34 <Betty> I think he´s on holiday?
06:51:38 <Betty> hi 111
06:52:39 <ynpvisitor999®> By the way, there seems to have been some sort of activity at Lion @ 0129, though I can't tell if it was a long roar or a ~6s minor
06:53:36 <ynpvisitor111> watching the replay I cannot determine anything either.
06:55:38 <ynpvisitor999®> Though it seems there was a minor @ 0139 for ~26s
06:57:36 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Dave
06:58:00 <Betty> Morning Dave
07:03:15 <ynpvisitor111> I worked at Cape Canaveral 49 years ago, it seems we all held our breath from the launch on July 16th until the landing on July 20th :)
07:04:38 <Dave from B™> Morning everyone. Eric will be back next week
07:04:39 <ynpvisitor999®> must've been a big relief when they landed on the moon
07:07:32 <Dave from B™> I believe his daughter is college shopping but don't quote me on that
07:08:17 <Betty> nice OF
07:08:42 <Dave from B™> I'm a little concerned about SB North Vent
07:09:27 <ynpvisitor111> Ah, then like you it is time for Eric to get the big checkbook out. :)
07:10:08 <Dave from B™> Most of my work has been done funds since birth really helps
07:10:27 <ynpvisitor111> although in your case three checkbooks :)
07:11:11 <Dave from B™> I learned my lesson after #1. Negotiated a lot harder for #2 and #3
07:13:48 <Betty> Dome ie
07:14:41 <ynpvisitor111> moring Graham
07:15:12 <Betty> :-)
07:15:33 <Dave from B™> You can't hide from us!:)
07:15:46 <Betty> he´s shy today
07:17:41 <Betty> morning Stephen
07:17:56 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Stephen
07:18:01 <Stephen G.> Morning Betty
07:26:37 <Dave from B™> Morning Jimbo
07:26:45 <ynpvisitor111> DG, do yoy go away for University, or is it local for you?
07:26:51 <SilverSurfer> Good morning Dave
07:27:39 <ynpvisitor999®> I stay at home and go by train, only two stations for me
07:28:23 <ynpvisitor111> nice
07:39:04 <Betty> Morning SilverSurfer
07:39:35 <SilverSurfer> Morning Betty
07:41:23 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Jimbo
07:43:07 <SilverSurfer> Thought about "Durango Kid" as a nickname, but that's a little more obscure
07:46:59 <Dave from B™> I'm a little surprised everyone is back at Norris today
07:53:32 <ynpvisitor37> if that's where they want to be, that's where they should be :)
07:55:41 <Dave from B™> 3 hot days in a row on the platform is as close to torture that gazing gets
07:57:23 <ynpvisitor111> end result = enjoyable, usually
07:57:42 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if SB got zapped again
07:57:46 <Betty> LC
07:59:56 <Dave from B™> Last interval North Vent was going like mad and we were waiting for South. This interval it is completely opposite
08:04:04 <Betty> there´s lots of steam in Plume area
08:04:28 <Betty> or is it from Plate?
08:04:38 <ynpvisitor999®> I think it's from Plate
08:05:13 <Dave from B™> Giantess boil?
08:05:36 <ynpvisitor999®> doesn't seem to originate from Aurum, so I'd say yes
08:05:39 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
08:05:59 <Betty> Giantess looks great
08:11:05 <Betty> VEC cam is stuck
08:12:54 <Betty> Plate ie
08:20:13 <Betty> Giantess is really interesting today
08:20:35 <Betty> it looks really hot
08:20:36 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
08:20:59 <Stephen G.> Yeah. Giantess looks like it's heated up
08:21:08 <ynpvisitor111> it may be big today!
08:21:08 <Dave from B™> I can't stop from staring at Giantess this morning for some reason
08:21:22 <Betty> me too Dave
08:21:50 <Dave from B™> It is only 45F this morning
08:22:14 <ynpvisitor999®> would be nice if we could have a zoom on Giantess (with OF to the left), as nothing seems about to go in the rest of the basin
08:22:21 <ynpvisitor999®> I'd take SC too, by the way :)
08:22:23 <Dave from B™> What a beautiful day for a Giantess eruption...Who would drive to Norris and tell everyone?
08:23:43 <Betty> you can do on your way to Giantess :-)
08:24:00 <Betty> take the chance
08:24:02 <Dave from B™> I would be tempted to go
08:24:33 <Betty> seems we have no camop this morning
08:26:10 <Betty> if there´s something happening there it can only be some small bursts
08:26:38 <ynpvisitor111> I think CC is there
08:27:01 <Betty> steam cloud would reach the top of the screen if it goes
08:27:14 <Betty> thx 111
08:28:00 <Betty> it would be a great year for Giantess to wake up
08:29:02 <ynpvisitor111> Dome ie
08:29:23 <Betty> yay
08:29:33 <Stephen G.> If Giantess woke up, it would be Giantess, Steamboat and Giant in the same year. Splendid might as well wake up too :)
08:29:59 <Betty> GO BIGGIES!
08:30:52 <Betty> even Dome looks big this morning :-)
08:31:21 <Betty> and there´s Solitary steam
08:38:53 <ynpvisitor84> I thought there were millions of people in the park in July. Where are they?
08:39:15 <Stephen G.> Still sleeping
08:42:10 <Dave from B™> Even West Entrance traffic is light
08:43:33 <ynpvisitor999®> there's still snow on Mount Washburn
08:44:06 <ynpvisitor84> Maybe they stopped giving travel visas?
08:45:17 <ynpvisitor84> Well enjoy Aurum, I see Kevin is missing.
08:45:20 <sparekitty> good morning!
08:46:39 <Dave from B™> Good morning sparekitty
08:46:51 <Betty> good morning, sparekitty
08:47:31 <Stephen G.> Morning sparekitty
08:48:48 <ynpvisitor999®> morning sparekitty
08:50:05 <Betty> I see Maureen is at Great Fountain
08:51:37 <Betty> LC ie
08:52:37 <Betty> she even had a Grizzly there
08:54:47 <Dave from B™> Maureen does NOT like grizzlies
08:55:05 <Betty> morning Kevin
08:55:24 <sparekitty> i'm headed to the park on the 28th. 3 nights at slough creek and then hoping for space at norris campground for a couple nights too. cannot wait.
08:55:26 <Kevin L™> Morning
08:55:38 <ynpvisitor35> Why doesn’t Maureen like grizzlies?
08:55:39 <Dave from B™> Sounds fun, sparekitty
08:56:04 <Kevin L™> I don't like grizzlies either. They have bad attitudes.
08:56:25 <sparekitty> i have always wanted to backpack camp in yellowstone...i've been there at least 100 times, never backpacking though.
08:57:11 <Dave from B™> 35, I thought I remember her not liking them...maybe just getting things confused with Kitt. I know Kitt's not a fan
08:57:52 <Kevin L™> I am not fond of things that would look at me as their dinner.
08:58:09 <ynpvisitor35> Yeah, that is Kitt. There has been a grizzly mom and cub on Fountain Flats past few days
08:58:10 <sparekitty> really, who IS a fan of grizzly bears? perhaps at a distance-through the moving car window
08:58:38 <Dave from B™> I love bears. Seeing the one across from Artemesia really makes me want to take a trip and stay at Roosevelt for a week
08:59:12 <ynpvisitor35> Grizzlies are great. The stupid tourists that get way too close, not so great.
08:59:12 <Dave from B™> Safety in numbers. A group of 4 or more has never been attacked in YNP
08:59:15 <Betty> I like them from a safe distance
09:00:04 <sparekitty> thanks for that tidbit, dave! there will be 4 of us in our group to slough. one in particular will be happy to hear we're unlikely to die!
09:00:10 <Kevin L™> Would you want to try for the first Dave?
09:00:47 <ynpvisitor35> I prefer them close from a car window. No binoculars needed yet safe in my vehicle.
09:01:36 <ynpvisitor35> Slough Creek is car camping, right?
09:02:27 <ynpvisitor35> You drive to the campsite?
09:02:29 <sparekitty> not where we are going, 35.
09:02:52 <Dave from B™> First meadow or second meadow?
09:03:21 <sparekitty> i think we're going to the 2nd meadow but is there a 3rd?
09:03:24 <ynpvisitor35> You are staying in a backcountry spot, the same one, for 4 nights?
09:03:40 <sparekitty> either way, i think it's 8 miles in. and we're staying for 3 nights in the same spot.
09:03:51 <ynpvisitor35> Why?
09:04:39 <Dave from B™> I think there is a third as well. Beautiful area
09:04:43 <ynpvisitor37> sparekitty, the skeeters will be spectacular!
09:05:11 <sparekitty> because it's great hiking and fishing. and i love backpack camping. typically quieter and fewer people. i find that if it takes real effort to get there, the people one encounters apprecicate the area more than those who can simply drive.
09:05:30 <sparekitty> and we're definitely planning for mosquitoes...hoping for no fire restrictions.
09:05:48 <Kevin L™> Bring an electric flyswatter.
09:06:13 <sparekitty> prob just long pants and sleeves, and head net.
09:06:48 <Dave from B™> sparekitty, backpacking is a lot of fun. So many places to go
09:07:17 <sparekitty> it's my thing. i do it a lot.
09:09:31 <Dave from B™> One of my favorite memories ever is 6 nights and 40 miles through the Bechler region of YNP
09:17:44 <ynpvisitor19> Static stuck on a great image. Fluffy's friend looks like a cute little bush.
09:30:00 <ynpvisitor62> Dave, the probable reason for Steamboat’s behavior is that we are well into the basin cycle. This has been the first cycle since the disturbance ended. I am hopeful for things to improve on the next cycle.
09:31:44 <Dave from B™> Thanks 62
09:32:22 <Dave from B™> How can I read up on the norris cycle? Any Sput or Transaction articles on it?
09:37:29 <Kevin L™> Going back to 111's audio of the moon landing, the seconds that they are counting down is the amount of fuel they have left. Neil was never supposed to fly the thing but the area that was picked had some big rocks. Neil took the controls and had less than 30 seconds of fuel left when he touched down. That is why all the ground crew were turning blue!
09:38:01 <ynpvisitor62> Dave, there are a couple of articles in the last 2 or 3 Sputs that tell a bit about it and also on GT - check Steamboat & Porkchop notes.
09:38:55 <ynpvisitor62> Right now the cycle is likely lasting 6 days
09:40:24 <Jake> and where is the cycle right now?
09:41:19 <ynpvisitor999®> No idea, as all YVO's loggers have stopped uploading data
09:41:45 <Dave from B™> So, this is a cycle of energy that changes in intensity or moves around the basin?
09:42:25 <Jake> I came up with a new prediction game idea: draw the data logger graph for the upcoming week. whoever is "closest", wins!
09:43:42 <ynpvisitor62> We should be nearing the end of this cycle.
09:44:22 <Jake> because it started on the 13th based on the Porkchop graph
09:44:29 <Kevin L™> A bit of news from Zion:
09:44:40 <ynpvisitor999®> if I solely have to base my idea of the Norris cycle on logger data and recent Porkchop notes, I'd say it has to do with the volume of water available
09:44:42 <Jake> OF
09:44:49 <Dave from B™> Also, In the special NatGeo article they said Norris thermal water comes out at Mammoth along a fault line. Any studies I can
09:45:16 <ynpvisitor111> the prize = satisfaction, but most of us will be singing "I can't get no satisfaction" :)
09:47:04 <Dave from B™> I guess I could finish my last thought. Any studies re the Norris Mammoth connection that I can read?
09:49:19 <Jake>
09:51:31 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Jake.
09:51:51 <Jake> some of those are available, others behind paywalls
09:52:17 <Jake> Google scholar is really great for searching for such things
09:54:07 <Dave from B™> I remember Duncan Foley talking about this many many years ago but I wanted to read up on it again
09:54:41 <Dave from B™> So, if more water is available to SB this year is it because less is "leaking" to Mammoth?
09:57:14 <ynpvisitor37> they call it the Norris-Mammoth corridor
10:02:19 <Emily> hi
10:02:28 <Dave from B™> Morning Emily
10:02:32 <Stephen G.> Hi Emily
10:02:41 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Emily
10:08:39 <ynpvisitor999®> Aurum
10:08:40 <ynpvisitor999®> .
10:08:41 <ynpvisitor999®> .
10:08:41 <ynpvisitor999®> .
10:09:53 <ynpvisitor999®> Castle ie
10:10:00 <ynpvisitor999®> ns, rather
10:10:33 <Kevin L™> I'll take an Aurum over a castle start.
10:11:04 <ynpvisitor111> yes
10:11:27 <Emily> 30s of bliss
10:11:27 <ynpvisitor111> nice urum catch
10:12:35 <ynpvisitor111> Aurum*
10:21:58 <ynpvisitor111> 12min still see water jets
10:22:14 <ynpvisitor118> good morning
10:22:26 <Emily> good morning 118
10:22:38 <ynpvisitor118> how's it going
10:22:43 <ynpvisitor118> hello from 'stone
10:22:51 <Stephen G.> Castle looking pretty good again today. Some tall jets
10:22:58 <ynpvisitor118> nice nice
10:23:09 <ynpvisitor118> skrrrrt
10:30:23 <ynpvisitor999®> time for SC
10:30:48 <ynpvisitor118> has anyone ever put soap into a geyser?
10:30:50 <ynpvisitor118> i am curious
10:31:12 <ynpvisitor999®> I haven't
10:31:33 <ynpvisitor118> well is there anyone whom has
10:31:47 <SilverSurfer> There's a video of someone soaping a New Zealand geyser
10:31:49 <ynpvisitor111> how much do you think it would take?
10:31:56 <Kevin L™> Even if I had I would not admit it here.
10:32:02 <SilverSurfer> They make it erupt for the tourists
10:32:07 <ynpvisitor118> please tell me
10:32:08 <ynpvisitor118> please
10:32:10 <ynpvisitor118> i must know
10:32:17 <Kevin L™> Check New Zealand geysers. They soap them.
10:32:23 <ynpvisitor999®> You mean Lady Knox Geyser, Jimbo?
10:32:29 <ynpvisitor118> i must know about yellowstone
10:32:29 <SilverSurfer> Not sure
10:32:34 <SilverSurfer> But I've seen the video
10:33:03 <ynpvisitor118> skrt
10:33:20 <Dave from B™> 118, that is not an appropriate question
10:33:33 <ynpvisitor999®> as far as I know LKG is the only geyser which is soaped on a daily basis - it's more or less the OF of New Zealand with all the benches around it
10:33:58 <SilverSurfer> Yup, looked up videos, it's Lady Knox
10:33:59 <Dave from B™> Soaping of geysers in US is illegal
10:34:41 <ynpvisitor999®> as for Yellowstone geysers, Splendid has been soaped frequently in the past
10:35:06 <Emily> Indeed it is. I wll say that I have not soaped geysers and will never do so. Though there are people who have in the gazer comunnity
10:35:55 <Kevin L™> I think most gazers have law enforcement on speed dial and will video and report such activity.
10:36:37 <Emily> I have dispatch as a contact in my phone and will call it quickly
10:36:39 <ynpvisitor118> why is it bad to do?
10:36:54 <Emily> Because it damages features and screws up natrual patterns
10:36:59 <ynpvisitor118> i am curious about the science
10:37:00 <SilverSurfer> It interferes with the natural process
10:37:13 <ynpvisitor999®> it can (most likely will) damage the geyser/spring's inner plumbing system
10:37:18 <ynpvisitor118> how does it damage them?
10:37:47 <Emily> Messing up natural patterns
10:38:13 <ynpvisitor87> 118, why don't you ask in the VC?
10:38:25 <ynpvisitor87> I'm sure they will tell you.
10:38:40 <SilverSurfer> Plus, it's low-level pollution
10:38:45 <ynpvisitor999®> isn't there a spring in the CGG which has been soaped and then never recovered fully from it
10:38:47 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
10:39:02 <Emily> CGG? Cascade group?
10:39:25 <ynpvisitor999®> Castle-Grand Group
10:39:33 <Emily> oh
10:39:40 <Emily> That would be scalloped
10:39:40 <Kevin L™> If you want to see what soaping does, make a geyser model. Run it with and without soap.
10:39:52 <ynpvisitor999®> That was it, thanks Emily
10:41:19 <Jake> 118, where did you hear/read about soap?
10:44:11 <ynpvisitor118> i am a geyser model
10:44:39 <ynpvisitor118> i heard about it at yellowstone
10:45:16 <Jake> neat
10:47:36 <Dave from B™> Jake, when do you leave for Wonderland?
10:47:58 <Jake> this afternoon
10:48:19 <Dave from B™> I hope F&M waits for oyu
10:49:20 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe SB is waiting for you, Jake
10:49:45 <Emily> come on NV
10:49:50 <Jake> tomorrow would be nice for F&M
10:50:03 <Emily> Wonder whats going on downbasin at fan and mortar
10:54:41 <Jake> it's always tricky deciding where to spend time, I'm assuming Giant is out
10:55:08 <Jake> if someone wants to sit at F&M and call out on the radio when something happens, I'll let them and go sit at something else ;)
10:55:12 <Dave from B™> Maybe Giant at the very end of your trip
10:55:31 <Emily> Id love to be there rn
10:55:43 <Emily> favorite place on earth to watch stuff go by
11:00:25 <Jake> if Steamboat does go while we're there, we'll have to be lucky to see it unless lots of credible observations come in about building activity. I would like to see a Whirligig and some Vixen
11:01:01 <Dave from B™> Jake, Norris is so isolated communication wise...good luck
11:01:24 <Dave from B™> I hope with Washburn upgrade that Norris communication can improve even a little
11:01:47 <Jake> and we'll have a baby so that makes longer waits uncomfortable with no cabin to go back to
11:03:28 <Kevin L™> That can complicate things Jake.
11:15:17 <Emily> Micah is at Fan and Mortar
11:15:36 <Dave from B™> animal sightings today?
11:15:41 <Betty> How long will you stay, Jake?
11:23:25 <Jake> until Tuesday
11:23:55 <Dave from B™> Uggh...that would be a fast turnaround for Giant
11:24:10 <Jake> yes
11:24:44 <Betty> Hope you get F&M then.
11:25:23 <Dave from B™> Jake, F&M does like to erupt once you get in your car headed this way
11:25:38 <Betty> Fast but not impossible. It’s a geyser:-)
11:26:18 <Betty> That only works with your car Dave
11:27:02 <Dave from B™> I tried to remove that option when I bought my car but I couldn't
11:27:22 <Betty> :-D
11:28:02 <Betty> Time to head to the festival. bbl
11:28:15 <ynpvisitor999®> have fun
11:28:24 <Betty> Thx
11:28:27 <Dave from B™> Is this Day 3?
11:29:26 <ynpvisitor999®> hi Kevin
11:29:50 <Kevin L™> hi
11:30:32 <ynpvisitor111> What is being celebrated?
11:31:06 <ynpvisitor118> soap day
11:31:11 <Kevin L™> Betty is in Germany. They just celebrate to celebrate.
11:31:29 <ynpvisitor111> :)
11:31:46 <Dave from B™> 118, that's enough
11:31:48 <Emily> Betty are you getting to the park?
11:32:10 <ynpvisitor118> :(
11:34:37 <Kevin L™> I think Betty is coming in the Fall Emily.
11:35:40 <ynpvisitor999®> late September if I recall correctly
12:06:28 <ynpvisitor999®> Bulger's Hole is still active :)
12:17:58 <lc> afternoon all
12:18:13 <Stephen G.> Afternoon lc
12:18:18 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon lc
12:18:24 <Dave from B™> Hi, lc
12:20:02 <lc> just got a text from Kitt, she would really like to get bhi or bh text at night/
12:20:54 <lc> said she has missed many because no one is out at night to call
12:21:28 <Dave from B™> one wants to stay out at night any more
12:21:42 <Dave from B™> I don't blame people for wanting to get some sleep
12:21:59 <Dave from B™> But, that is a change since the night owl sputs are gone
12:22:43 <lc> not sure who would be watching here that could send a text, maybe Betty.
12:23:01 <Dave from B™> Joe would be able to help possibility
12:23:05 <Kevin L™> I can do that if I see one. Hopefully she can tell the people out there not to point their lights in the direction of the cam because if they do we can't see Indy.
12:23:23 <ynpvisitor111> I can text on the ones I see at night, but i thought rainedout at night was frowned upon
12:23:53 <Kevin L™> If it is too late I just send her a personal text.
12:24:13 <Dave from B™> 111, that has been a sticky issue for some...personal text sounds like a good compromise
12:24:44 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't think anyone would be bothered if a nighttime text said that Giantess has started an eruption
12:24:50 <ynpvisitor111> I donot have her text #
12:24:59 <lc> not sure 111, just passing her msg on.
12:25:10 <ynpvisitor111> ok tks
12:25:30 <Kevin L™> Is that you Joe?
12:25:36 <ynpvisitor111> yes
12:25:46 <lc> I can give it to you
12:26:54 <Kevin L™> Check your email
12:27:06 <Joe´> tks kevin
12:28:17 <Kevin L™> Has anyone else had problems with streaming locking up on this page? I have had it lock up on me for the past few days. Seems to run fine on the NPS site though.
12:29:02 <ynpvisitor999®> it does that every so often for me, though it usually fixes itself or after I reload the stream
12:29:59 <Kevin L™> Mine has been lagging and then locking up. Since it works on NPS it probably isn't Chrome.
12:30:04 <Joe´> not locking up here
12:30:17 <Stephen G.> It usually will lock up for a few seconds at a time occasionally for me.
12:30:59 <lc> Joe, I made a typo on that number check your pm.
12:34:01 <Joe´> got it lc
12:34:39 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
12:34:49 <lc> sorry about the typo, got that from Dave. :-/
12:35:45 <SilverSurfer> I've had that happen too, Kevin L.
12:36:14 <Joe´> we all know how Dave is, lc
12:36:22 <Joe´> :)
12:43:41 <Kevin L½™> I tossed the cookie and the stream started again.
12:44:00 <Kevin L½™> It thinks I am here twice though.
12:46:04 <Joe´> I only see 1/2 of you
12:51:26 <Joe´> I don't think we will see Riverside today, musn't be any basin elves back there
12:52:18 <Kevin L™> Yea. Now I am back to normal
12:52:31 <ynpvisitor> Time for Grand, it worked yesterday.
12:52:39 <ynpvisitor35> Too bad Jake will miss the big ones, maybe F&M will wait for him
12:53:02 <Joe´> mustn't**
12:54:09 <lc> bbl
12:57:55 <Dave from B™> bye, lc....just back from lunch
12:58:04 <Dave from B™> I saw you sneak in that jab:)
12:59:16 <Kevin L™> So what do you serve at a company lunch Dave?
13:00:43 <Dave from B™> Not fish since we have partners in the building who don't like fish smell plus there are 2 or 3 of us who wouldn't eat fish
13:00:50 <Dave from B™> We had brats on pretzel buns
13:01:07 <Dave from B™> Parker manned the bbq
13:02:18 <Joe´> lion is ready
13:02:22 <Kevin L™> The page wanted my cookie
13:03:11 <Kevin L™> Hope you had horseradish mustard for those. (That is a law in Germany.)
13:05:09 <ynpvisitor999®> LC ie
13:06:58 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy ie
13:09:33 <ynpvisitor> A fish store that does not serve fish at a company party, reminds me of asking what was good at a restaurant and being told "I don't know, they will not let us eat here".
13:10:29 <Dave from B™> We're only cooking 1 thing and we don't want to offer something not everyone will eat
13:10:46 <Dave from B™> Anyone read HK's recent post?
13:11:24 <Joe´> in geyser notes? yes
13:12:16 <Joe´> ruined a phone
13:12:39 <Dave from B™> So, does than mean HK doesn't approve of gazers talking tourists into going to BH or Grand or that he doesn't like gazers complaining about it or both?
13:12:54 <Dave from B™> Joe, that was yesterdays post you are talking about
13:13:06 <ynpvisitor999®> Giant apparantly didn't like its own sign and got rid of it using its runoff channel
13:13:17 <Joe´> ok missed latest then
13:16:51 <ynpvisitor114> there was an et al at Artemisia!
13:16:56 <ynpvisitor114> not usually a crowd there
13:17:14 <Dave from B™> Nice to see Scott back
13:17:57 <ynpvisitor114> no Turban posts?
13:18:50 <Dave from B™> HK enters his Turban when Grand goes
13:19:18 <ynpvisitor114> all of them leading up to it?
13:19:19 <Joe´> sounds to me like he as just commenting about gazers being the the larger number of people at those sites, watching the cam most tourists avoid walking the outer boardwalks
13:20:06 <Dave from B™> I would like to get to know hk better. Kevin, you've known him for a long time haven't you?
13:20:11 <Joe´> except the groups following their leader with a flag
13:21:35 <ynpvisitor114> hey, can someone tell me what New Crater is at Steamboat?
13:21:40 <ynpvisitor114> HK keeps mentioning it
13:21:50 <Stephen G.> New Crater is another official name for Steamboat.
13:21:58 <ynpvisitor114> why?
13:23:03 <Stephen G.> I believe it was used in the early days of the park. I believe Steamboat as we know it now was a new feature in the early days of the Park, hence "New" Crater Geyser.
13:23:26 <Dave from B™> New Crater was the original name
13:23:49 <Stephen G.> Steamboat's first big eruptions were seen in the 1870s.
13:24:17 <Dave from B™> I believe it was the 1880's
13:24:28 <Dave from B™> Let me do some digging
13:24:59 <Joe´> while sitting at Castle I see about 90% of the crowds take the pavement to MGP rather than to Castle, Giant and further on
13:25:55 <ynpvisitor114> thanks, I wonder how much more time gazers will put to it
13:25:59 <Stephen G.> It looks like the first recorded eruptions were in 1878.
13:27:28 <ynpvisitor114> some have spent the whole week there
13:27:43 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Stephen. I knew it wasn't active for the 3 expeditions in 1869-1871. Thought it started during Supt Norris years
13:28:04 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
13:29:01 <Stephen G.> No problem Dave. :)
13:29:45 <Stephen G.> I may be wrong, but I seem to recall a reading (I think Janet's post from a couple of months ago) Steamboat may not have existed before the 1870's. Either that, or it wasn't important enough to note.
13:30:13 <ynpvisitor114> well it is not a new crater now
13:30:48 <Joe´> 81° not much steam visible
13:31:16 <ynpvisitor114> maybe it will be a 7 hour Grand
13:31:57 <ynpvisitor999®> Wasn't SB a fumarole before it began erupting?
13:32:50 <Dave from B™> I know in my 1904 Hague Atlas it is on the map as New Crater Geyser
13:33:30 <Kevin L™> :P Stream locked up again.
13:33:33 <ynpvisitor114> Mugwump note is not good
13:33:40 <ynpvisitor114> mine is Ok here Kevin
13:34:27 <Kevin L™> I did see Mugwump a few times but from a distance.
13:35:00 <Dave from B™> According to my cam, everyone has a hitch in their giddyup:)
13:36:10 <ynpvisitor23> grand
13:41:39 <ynpvisitor114> maybe too close?
13:41:47 <ynpvisitor114> quite the sway that close
13:42:31 <ynpvisitor114> good to know the gazers have a breeze
13:43:30 <Dave from B™> I bet the winds not blowing on the SB platform
13:43:46 <ynpvisitor114> their choice
13:44:10 <ynpvisitor114> I think what hk wrote about BH and Grand being less crowded without gazers was interesting
13:44:37 <ynpvisitor114> it is some of the same people that say STAY that later complain about overcrowding
13:45:46 <Joe´> If you want crowds tell them there is nothing to see here :)
13:46:17 <Joe´> 11min
13:46:28 <ynpvisitor114> looks like another 1b
13:46:44 <Dave from B™> I like corraling tourists to watch the biggies. It never hurts to have more FROGS
13:47:40 <Stephen G.> FROGS?
13:47:58 <Kevin L™> If there is a large crowd then people who were just going to pass by will sometimes stay to see what is going on. About 30 years ago we tried and experiment. We stopped by the side of the road in a pullout and set up a camera on a tripod looking into the woods. We ended up with over 100 cars stopping and most didn't ask what we were looking at.
13:48:19 <Dave from B™> :D
13:49:02 <ynpvisitor114> I have done that Kevin, only with binoculars. I left after about 30 cars were there
13:49:07 <Kevin L™> Friend Of the Geysers. (Or an old person like me who is ready to croak.)
13:49:18 <Stephen G.> Pardon my question, but does that stand for something Dave?
13:49:49 <Joe´> there is never any cars at mugwump, but when i stop there the pullout will fill
13:50:01 <Jake> People Interested in Geysers PIGs
13:50:26 <ynpvisitor114> you PIG Jake
13:50:38 <ynpvisitor114> Stephen, you must not subscribe to the SPUT
13:50:44 <Joe´> I'm a pig
13:51:24 <Stephen G.> I do not, unfortunately.
13:51:40 <Dave from B™> See Kvin's post...he's got the FROG definition
13:52:03 <Stephen G.> Ah. Thanks Kevin :)
13:52:22 <Dave from B™> Let's talk about the Sput. I feel Pat has done a great job with the Sput.
13:52:30 <ynpvisitor114> well why not? You can get it electronically for the cost of a few coffees
13:52:35 <Joe´> Kevin, you are still young
13:52:49 <Dave from B™> Everyone should subscribe. She is working REALLY hard to make it a super super publication
13:53:00 <Kevin L™> Well the Dr that delivered me died this week.
13:53:21 <Dave from B™> That gives you at least another 25 years Kevin!:)
13:53:23 <ynpvisitor114> anyone who says they are GOSA and does not subscribe, should stop saying that.
13:53:35 <ynpvisitor114> They are not GOSA anyway, yet at least they would be a subscriber
13:54:57 <Stephen G.> Very true. I'll look into subscribing when I've got the chance this weekend
13:55:37 <ynpvisitor42> The Sput is great. It's been a fine record of the geyser world for three decades now.
13:55:39 <Dave from B™> Pat has been adding new features every few months.
13:55:48 <Dave from B™> They highlight a gazer every issue
13:56:08 <Dave from B™> She is adding a "Ask a gazer" article for the next issue
14:19:15 <Emily> Dear Geyser Gazer. I want to watch Aurum but I know its very hard to catch these days. Am I wasting my time?
14:19:24 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion ini
14:19:38 <Emily> Answer, no you're not.
14:20:38 <Kevin L™> I have waited a long time for some Aurum eruptions and have waited and not seen it. Never regretted the time.
14:21:15 <Emily> Fan and Mortar is my Aurum these days. I understand the feeling
14:21:41 <Kevin L™> I can relate. Spent 40 hours waiting on my first F&M.
14:21:52 <Kevin L™> Just make sure Dave isn't there.
14:22:10 <Emily> I watched a lot of stuff over July 4th weekend and I missed overnight and I dont minf
14:25:11 <Emily> I know dave has had bad luck with it. I hope to see an eruption with him in august or september
14:25:57 <Emily> I'll be down there a lot I think. I like that I can call people down there for something I understand reasonably well but also am close to Giant in case it does something
14:26:30 <ynpvisitor999®> OF ns
14:32:17 <Dave from B™> Yep...down basin is the place to be this year
14:32:48 <Dave from B™> Not sure if I'll be back to OF this year. My Steamboat box is packed and ready to go
14:44:53 <Joe´> Lion was ini
14:45:34 <ynpvisitor999®> I left a comment on that entry saying that it was the initial
14:55:11 <ynpvisitor999®> webcam is tired again?
14:55:41 <Joe´> yep
14:59:32 <Stephen G.> I see Udo already left Steamboat. Sounds like it's pretty hot at Norris. Didn't give much of an update on what he's seeing, although he mentioned the gravel pit has been dredged deeper.
15:04:02 <Dave from B™> Left side of runoff wet and dredge is all good but I wonder if that is all from SV.
15:04:31 <Dave from B™> Kitt is backat UGB as well
15:29:29 <ynpvisitor67> Time for Lion #2?
15:30:41 <ynpvisitor999®> in about 9 minutes
15:33:33 <Dave from B™> It's beer thirty. Time to go home. Have a great evening everyone!
15:33:44 <ynpvisitor23> daisy
15:33:54 <Stephen G.> Same to you Dave!
15:34:05 <Kevin L™> Later Dave
15:34:16 <ynpvisitor999®> night Dave
15:39:36 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
15:39:58 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Graham
15:40:15 <GO MUGWUMP> hello. didnt miss much?
15:40:26 <GO MUGWUMP> Bulgers Hole and DOme ... nice day
15:41:54 <ynpvisitor999®> you missed Aurum @ 1008, but other than that it's currently a box-standard day
15:42:36 <GO MUGWUMP> wow 3 days in a row, GO AURUM
15:56:33 <Stephen G.> It's looking like it's time for me to head home. Have a good evening everyone!
15:56:47 <Kevin L™> Night
15:56:48 <ynpvisitor999®> Same to you, Stephen
15:56:51 <GO MUGWUMP> bye, happy weekend
15:57:08 <GO MUGWUMP> i see Kitt is back in UGB - abandoned steamboat as well as Udo?
16:03:33 <ynpvisitor31> hello GRAHAM
16:03:59 <GO MUGWUMP> HELLO.
16:15:09 <ynpvisitor999®> OF ie
16:49:06 <ynpvisitor999®> SC ie
16:53:28 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
17:50:16 <ynpvisitor31> OF 1749
17:54:56 <ynpvisitor31> indy
17:54:59 <ynpvisitor31> .
17:55:00 <ynpvisitor31> .
17:55:00 <ynpvisitor31> .
17:56:39 <Kevin L™> Nice
17:59:05 <GO MUGWUMP> :)
18:06:27 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
18:07:53 <ynpvisitor999®> lazy Lion start
18:07:57 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
18:07:58 <ynpvisitor31> LC
18:08:44 <Betty> yay, just in time
18:08:59 <ynpvisitor31> just in time Betty
18:09:16 <Kevin L™> Did you bring me a pretzel?
18:09:34 <Betty> I ate all :-)
18:10:42 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
18:10:47 <Betty> poof
18:39:30 <Betty> time to get some sleep. Night all
18:39:31 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm calling it a day. Enjoy Lion and have fun watching YNM and YNR
18:39:50 <Betty> beat you :-)
18:40:38 <Kevin L™> night
19:24:24 <GO MUGWUMP> of
19:30:37 <ynpvisitor47> Grand
19:34:23 <Kevin L™> That is early for Grand this week.
20:32:42 <ynpvisitor23> daisy
22:25:39 <ynpvisitor45> Looks like SB is ready to go
23:10:18 <ynpvisitor107> Too bad, Steamboat looks like it finally erupted
23:10:45 <ynpvisitor107> Maybe someone was there
23:12:08 <ynpvisitor107> Seismo does not look as strong as some of the other eruptions
23:12:29 <ynpvisitor107> Yet it does look like something was happening
23:19:17 <ynpvisitor107> Nice long signature