Showing logs for date: 2018-07-25
22:51:47 <ynpvisitor72> If the clouds clear there is a good chance of northern lights tonight.
22:54:08 <ynpvisitor114> OF very fluffy
23:31:56 <ynpvisitor72> Daisy
04:25:21 <ynpvisitor114> there has been and still is steam in the riverside area since 0549, steam is right, the time is wrong
04:26:59 <ynpvisitor114> probably large am steam, like the rest of the basin
04:35:25 <ynpvisitor19> Grotto was ie at 0607, maybe that?
04:38:01 <ynpvisitor114> No, I saw grotto it was humongous this morning
04:54:14 <ynpvisitor114> DAISY
04:59:00 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone
04:59:29 <ynpvisitor114> Good morning Dave
05:00:38 <ynpvisitor114> :)
05:01:13 <Dave from B™> haha...has to be Joe:)
05:01:33 <ynpvisitor114> Yes :)
05:04:32 <Dave from B™> Hey, if you can put the breaks on SB, I'll be there Friday around 630
05:05:03 <ynpvisitor114> It will wait for you :)
05:21:24 <Stephen G.> Morning everyone
05:23:15 <Dave from B™> Morning Stephen G.
05:24:02 <Stephen G.> Morning Dave; hopefully Steamboat waits for you this week!
05:25:21 <ynpvisitor114> There was an oblong irruption last nigh,t looks good on the replay
05:25:37 <ynpvisitor114> night*
05:25:45 <Stephen G.> As Graham would say: "GO OBLONG!!"
05:34:16 <Stephen G.> I see somebody was out at Vixen very early this morning
05:34:47 <Dave from B™> That is odd
05:35:18 <Dave from B™> And, the only entry the person has ever made. Account was created yesterday
05:36:48 <Stephen G.> A fake maybe? I've never seen anybody recording Vixen eruptions in the middle of the night. Considering that's the only eruption the account posted, it could be.
05:37:54 <Dave from B™> It's gone now
05:38:03 <Dave from B™> Someone practicing
05:38:54 <Stephen G.> Must be. Looks like they were just getting a feel for the app
05:54:17 <Stephen G.> SC ie
05:55:07 <ynpvisitor114> yep
06:21:07 <ynpvisitor114> Good morning Kevin, baked chicken?
06:21:49 <Kevin L™> I did have hard boiled eggs last night straight out of the coop.
06:21:58 <ynpvisitor114> :)
06:22:34 <Kevin L™> We topped at 114° but supposed to be hotter today.
06:24:56 <Dave from B™> Already an SB report this morning. Thanks Chris D
06:25:28 <Kevin L™> So SB will go Friday morning?
06:28:03 <ynpvisitor114> Yep it will wait for Dave to arrive :)
06:30:25 <ynpvisitor31> iabol1s
06:30:50 <Dave from B™> 630 time from earlier should have been pm or 1830
06:32:28 <Stephen G.> Hopefully it'll still wait for Dave
06:32:29 <Stephen G.> :)
06:32:48 <ynpvisitor114> Well, that most certainly changes things :(
06:36:08 <Betty> Hi all
06:36:18 <Kevin L™> Abend
06:36:26 <Stephen G.> Hi Betty
06:36:36 <Kevin L™> Going to catch a BH before the party?
06:36:55 <Betty> short step in before I‘m cut off by the tunnel
06:37:20 <ynpvisitor114> INDY
06:37:21 <Kevin L™> How long is the tunnel?
06:37:24 <Dave from B™> Aren't you done partying yet?
06:37:26 <ynpvisitor114> .
06:37:26 <Betty> I fear I miss :bee: this time
06:37:34 <ynpvisitor114> >
06:37:36 <Kevin L™> Indy
06:37:36 <ynpvisitor114> .
06:37:38 <ynpvisitor114> .
06:37:40 <Kevin L™> ,
06:37:41 <Kevin L™> ,
06:38:09 <Betty> was that an indy call? Darn 🤬
06:38:41 <ynpvisitor13> Happy Happy
06:38:57 <Dave from B™> Betty, tell your driver to go faster!
06:39:01 <Betty> I have bad to no connection after the tunnel
06:39:34 <Betty> at least i made you happy 😌
06:39:38 <Kevin L™> Then slower. Tell him it is Amtrak so it has to be at least an hour late.
06:40:08 <Betty> we were at 94 today. i‘m melting
06:40:35 <Betty> enjoy the bug. bbl
06:41:17 <Kevin L™> 94° is my low!
06:41:33 <Kevin L™> Lot of steam at Aurum
06:41:37 <Dave from B™> No sweating here....pure paradise
06:42:08 <Kevin L™> You are saying that since you are getting your field finished.
06:42:56 <ynpvisitor999®> morning all, afternoon Betty
06:43:52 <Betty> Connection is still working. Hi DG
06:44:23 <Betty> Bah
06:44:23 <Dave from B™> How far from the tunnel are you?
06:44:29 <ynpvisitor999®> Plate ie?
06:45:05 <Betty> I‘ through already
06:46:02 <ynpvisitor999®> LC ie
06:48:52 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
06:48:59 <ynpvisitor114> BEE
06:49:22 <ynpvisitor114> OF window :(
06:49:44 <Kevin L™> Bonus for OF customers.
06:50:02 <Kevin L™> Stereo!
06:50:06 <ynpvisitor118> nice to see posts from Will in basin
06:50:15 <Kevin L™> Glad the wind is right
06:50:32 <ynpvisitor118> looks like not much wind right now
06:50:43 <Kevin L™> Very tall BH
06:51:28 <Stephen G.> Nice dual to start off the day
06:52:16 <ynpvisitor118> OF was a fuzzball yet BH viewing was nice
06:52:55 <Stephen G.> BH with a nice eruption.. interesting how it looked so good, yet you could barely see OF through the steam
06:53:00 <Dave from B™> It's been awhile since Will has been in the basin
06:53:34 <ynpvisitor118> fire growing on northeast side of YNP. It moved into National Forest last night, will be interesting to see if they fight it now
06:53:52 <Dave from B™> Isn't is on NW side in along US 191?
06:54:13 <ynpvisitor118> He got there right before 2 burst Grand and Giant!
06:54:20 <ynpvisitor118> oops, meant NW sorry
06:54:25 <Kevin L™> Yosemite is terrible
06:54:25 <ynpvisitor118> Bacon Rind fire
06:55:05 <ynpvisitor118> winds from SW keep the smoke out of UGB
06:55:07 <Stephen G.> Seems like Will had a nice first day in the Park :)
06:57:42 <ynpvisitor31> Castle?
06:57:44 <Dave from B™> So, that is headed towards Tom Miner Basin?
06:58:10 <Kevin L™> Somehow Bacon Rind Fire sounds good right now.
06:59:05 <Dave from B™> Can you better that?
06:59:13 <Dave from B™> Uggh....pepper that?
07:03:40 <ynpvisitor999®> I bet a lot of gazers are at SB, now that Giant has had it's eruption and F&M is about a day away minimum
07:05:15 <Dave from B™> Kevin, I haven't heard much. How did Kyle take the Harvick nudge?
07:06:53 <Kevin L™> Basically said he races people the way they race him. I suspect next time harvick is in his way the chrome horn will be used.
07:06:58 <ynpvisitor114> Castle you have a go for a major
07:07:32 <Dave from B™> DG, or gazers can relax for a normal day at UGB with BH, Grand, etc or go to LGB to see the fountains
07:07:48 <ynpvisitor999®> true
07:08:16 <Dave from B™> The toll of sitting on big geysers or running to them every time they cry wolf is a lot of effort
07:09:11 <ynpvisitor114> but exciting :)
07:15:25 <Dave from B™> You bet it is!
07:16:26 <Kevin L™> Grand
07:24:48 <Kevin L™> 8m
07:26:17 <Kevin L™> Looks like another 1b
07:33:09 <ynpvisitor114> LC
07:34:15 <ynpvisitor114> Daisy
07:38:02 <ynpvisitor999®> G1Q | 10m46s
07:41:26 <ynpvisitor114> The Riverside prediction is wrong should be about 1008, I caused that erroneous prediction when I entered what I thought was Riverside earlier.
07:42:49 <ynpvisitor118> hk did a nice write up of the Giant eruption and lead up to it.
07:43:17 <Dave from B™> Darn, I keep forgetting to read his blog
07:43:33 <ynpvisitor118> won't people be moving to Steamboat now?
07:43:49 <ynpvisitor114> Yes HK's iOS app lets him put in all pertinent information
07:44:02 <ynpvisitor118> I heard hk is upset because someone is calling SPLIT CONE on the FRS radio...too funny
07:44:13 <ynpvisitor118> yet he did not mention it in his blog
07:44:42 <ynpvisitor118> 114, I am talking about his blog on, not his GT post
07:45:22 <ynpvisitor114> Okay thanks I like both his blog and GT posts
07:45:53 <ynpvisitor118> the only thing about his GT posts for Grands are that Turbans are not posted as they happen, for us web cam people
07:46:16 <ynpvisitor118> Jim usually will post Turban now that he is back in the UGB
07:46:39 <Stephen G.> I've been reading his blog the last few days. I do appreciate hk taking the time to write out his observations.
07:46:58 <Stephen G.> That is pretty funny somebody is calling Splite Cone... haha
07:47:04 <ynpvisitor118> his Giant write up, it's almost like being there
07:47:18 <ynpvisitor118> more than once Stephen G, which I guess is what got him upset
07:47:44 <Stephen G.> That makes sense; it would get annoying after the initial call.
07:47:58 <ynpvisitor999®> if the radio is dead silent, I wouldn't really care what's being called on there
07:48:31 <ynpvisitor114> FRS, Family radio service not Geyser gazer exclusive
07:48:36 <ynpvisitor118> gazers are an odd bunch DG
07:49:14 <ynpvisitor118> Nice that Oblong was seen by Joe. I wonder if it will be a pattern, after Giant?
07:49:42 <Stephen G.> Hopefully Giant can nudge Oblong out of its near-dormacy
07:49:43 <ynpvisitor118> is that Oblong now?
07:50:05 <ynpvisitor999®> I personally think this is V&T steam
07:50:08 <ynpvisitor114> It's in the right place
07:50:24 <ynpvisitor118> oh right, Grand ended not too long ago
07:50:34 <ynpvisitor999®> but I'd take Oblong too
07:50:53 <Kevin L™> I rode on a V&T steam engine once.
07:50:54 <ynpvisitor118> cloud just got bigger...hopefully some gazers around if it is
07:51:23 <ynpvisitor118> is there a cam op? We could go closer...
07:52:21 <ynpvisitor118> thanks. The mystery behind the trees.
07:52:57 <ynpvisitor999®> and the cam got tired again
07:53:23 <ynpvisitor114> zzz:)
07:53:41 <ynpvisitor999®> SC soon
07:54:11 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
07:55:52 <ynpvisitor999®> vigorous
07:56:05 <Stephen G.> No Oblong entry on GT, either that is Vent and Turban, or everybody went in after Grand.
07:57:18 <ynpvisitor114> As long as it is laisted I say vent and turban
08:03:17 <Dave from B™> Interesting that the last Giant eruption didn't move signs
08:04:41 <Stephen G.> hk mentioned the wind was fairly strong, and pushing the jets away from him, so I'm guessing most of the water was blown towards the river
08:04:47 <BruceJ> Last Giant did not move signs?
08:04:51 <BruceJ> Uh oh.
08:05:20 <ynpvisitor999®> Giant didn't move signs! Yellowstone is about to GOOO!
08:05:39 <ynpvisitor999®> as some conspiracy theorist would make of it
08:06:03 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Stephen. Wind direction makes sense
08:06:25 <BruceJ> Hi, Kevin - I rode on the Glenbrook 2-6-0 up at Carson City on July 3, 2017. It was a blast :-)
08:07:44 <Stephen G.> No problem Dave
08:09:18 <Dave from B™> Morning Bruce!
08:09:37 <ynpvisitor999®> Riverside?
08:10:31 <BruceJ> Hi, Guys - gonna leave here shortly for a LONG drive..
08:11:55 <Dave from B™> So, is your sharing a site option open for Friday night?:)
08:11:59 <Stephen G.> That looked to be the right place for Riverside. 114 mentioned the predictions would be off, and thought about 1008
08:12:26 <Stephen G.> Good luck with SB Bruce! Hopefully it will wait for you
08:15:42 <BruceJ> Thanks Stephen! If not, I'll wait for IT :-) Dave, if I have a campsite at that time, you are most welcome. I'll send you my phone no. in a PM
08:16:42 <ynpvisitor999®> Riverside 1008 per C Daubert and DaveM
08:17:08 <ynpvisitor999®> so a spot-on prediction for 114 :)
08:17:42 <BruceJ> Congrats 114!
08:17:48 <Stephen G.> Not too bad of a prediction I'd say :)
08:18:46 <BruceJ> OK, I gotta scram - see y'all on the boardwalks.
08:18:55 <ynpvisitor999®> bye Bruce, have fun
08:19:29 <Stephen G.> Have fun Bruce! See ya if you're still there in 10 days
08:19:29 <Kevin L™> Good luck Bruce.
08:56:45 <Dave from B™> Strong flaming...that's a new thermal description
09:01:08 <Stephen G.> Micah seems to be coming up with a couple of new descriptions this summer so far... :) I can't remember the first one, but I think it was discussed a week or two ago
09:03:58 <ynpvisitor999®> if I recall correctly, flaming has been used for several other features in the LGB, so not necessarily a 'new' description, though maybe a first for Blue Star
09:05:08 <Stephen G.> I believe Scott used "flaming" as a description for Firehole Spring on Firehole Lake Drive in his book.
09:05:51 <Kevin L™> Flaming would go good with Firehole.
09:11:14 <Dave from B™> I prefer the word "drool". That's still my favorite thermal term
09:19:06 <Kevin L™> Morning Kent. Recovering from the fireworks?
09:19:50 <Kent> Earplugs worked great
09:20:24 <Kent> City show here was Friday night. Kids and neighbors last night.
09:21:53 <Kevin L™> In my neighborhood the kids & neighbors beat the city show.
09:22:37 <Kent> 127° in Death Valley. All time recored in the hottest place on earth. I know it is FAKE news, but it is really cool fake news if you pay attention to these sorts of things.
09:24:18 <Kevin L™> I think they had 132° recorded once.
09:24:34 <ynpvisitor999®> that valley isn't named 'Death Valley' for nothing
09:25:18 <Kent> I'll check. My source was NWS peep on the news.
09:26:35 <Kent> 134° 1913
09:27:24 <Kevin L™> That sounds more like it.
09:28:10 <Kent> For the date, not all time
09:28:19 <Kevin L™> 106° here now.
09:29:13 <Kent> I feel bad for the poor picas:(
09:31:15 <Kent> New Go Fund Me account, "Buy a pica an AC." :)
09:31:58 <Kevin L™> I remember a day in Laughlin when they were doing the final layer of paving and it was 123°. The asphalt was coming out at 350°. It was brutal.
09:33:03 <Stephen G.> I used to do some paving work for a summer job; I thought it was bad at just 95 degrees... I can't imagine 123, and the hot asphalt on top of it. Yikes!
09:33:15 <Kent> My father used to threaten me with a summer job on a blacktop crew :thumbsdown:
09:33:33 <Kevin L™> Good way to lose weight.
09:33:51 <Kent> Different dress for Yellowstone
09:34:48 <Kevin L™> I had a 2 gallon water bucket. Had to fill it twice that day.
09:34:59 <Stephen G.> That's for sure. I probably went through a couple of gallons of water each of the hot days I was paving. I worked for the DOT, which just did smaller patches (usually around 100 feet) thankfully, so I wasn't doing miles of paving.
09:35:27 <sparekitty> streaming stuck here...anybody else?
09:35:42 <Kent> I had to refresh
09:35:43 <ynpvisitor999®> not here for now
09:36:04 <Kevin L™> I was locating manholes so they could adjust them when the job was finished. It was the open grade asphalt we were doing that day.
09:36:17 <Kevin L™> My streaming is working.
09:36:42 <Kevin L™> How are the chickens sparekitty?
09:36:50 <Stephen G.> My streaming is up as well. Kevin - that does not sound fun, especially in that heat
09:37:01 <Dave from B™> Want perfect summer weather....visit Montana's Trailhead!:)
09:37:49 <Kevin L™> Perfect weather does not involve a place where it snows in the winter.
09:39:08 <Kevin L™> I must admit that I have been tempted to buy a duplex in Rexburg. Rent half out to my Daughter and college students for the Fall and Winter semesters, live in it during the Summer.
09:41:19 <Dave from B™> Kevin, you should do it
09:41:37 <Dave from B™> My wife may be getting a $750 voucher from United in a few minutes
09:41:52 <sparekitty> chickens are ok kevin. thanks for asking. at least they were yesterday. got 3 eggs since it cooled down a bit for a couple days.
09:42:37 <sparekitty> now though they are in the care of the neighbor kid. i'm in cascade for the next couple days, headed to the park!!! camping at slough creek for my husband's birthday.
09:42:40 <Kevin L™> They do not like the heat for sure. Mine are at half or less right now.
09:42:49 <Kevin L™> Nice!
09:43:07 <Kevin L™> BTW do you know why chicken coops have two doors?
09:43:22 <sparekitty> nope, why?
09:43:41 <Kevin L™> If they had 4 doors they would be chicken sedans.
09:43:57 <sparekitty> i knew there was a bad joke in there somewhere!
09:44:06 <ynpvisitor115> Good one Kevin
09:44:40 <Kevin L™> See what heat does to you!
09:44:40 <Dave from B™> I'd heard it before and still couldn't remember the punch line!
09:44:58 <Stephen G.> Haha - Good joke there Kevin
10:04:56 <ynpvisitor100> Daisy
10:05:03 <Kevin L™> Daisy
10:05:05 <ynpvisitor100> ie
10:18:23 <Stephen G.> Lion
10:20:21 <ynpvisitor94> wonder what the holdup is at west gate
10:21:03 <ynpvisitor94> been like that 2 - 3 hrs now
10:21:12 <Kevin L™> That is normal for this time of day
10:21:46 <Stephen G.> Wow. That is packed. I guess it pays to get into the Park early.
10:22:30 <Kevin L™> Yep. You don't want to be at west gate from 0800 to about 1230
10:24:10 <ynpvisitor94> I thought it normally cleared out by 1100
10:24:49 <Stephen G.> I suppose you probably have a lot of people getting up later and eating breakfast/lunch before heading in
10:24:54 <Kevin L™> Depends on the day. I have seen it like this almost to 1400
10:36:24 <Dave from B™> wb, Jake!
10:36:44 <Dave from B™> Did you have fun?
10:36:47 <Jake> when I left yesterday from OF to West Yellowstone at 1145, there was almost a continuous line of cars (going the other way) from Fairy Falls to Midway Geyser Basin to another mile north and then another line of cars from Fountain PP to Madison Jct
10:37:23 <Kevin L™> :p
10:37:24 <Jake> it was fun, left too soon for Giant but that was to be expected
10:37:44 <Dave from B™> Darn...I was hoping you might have still been there
10:39:37 <Jake> I did see F&M so that worked out, fine viewing conditions too
10:41:51 <ynpvisitor26> Watched the first half of the national park road program on PBS last night. It was fun listening to them describe what people wrote about how difficult it was to drive in the park in 1920. Did not sound much different then today..
10:42:22 <ynpvisitor26> Other then when you entered you needed to prove you had enough spare parts and the ability to fix your car.
10:43:10 <ynpvisitor26> Now they just take your money and try to scare you about the wildlife.
10:43:57 <Dave from B™> 26, that sounds like an interesting program. I'm curious to see the NAT'l GEOG live 4 day broadcast which starts August 5
10:45:01 <ynpvisitor26> There is a difference in the people. Back then they expected it to be an adventure, and expected difficulty. It was part of the experience and made them feel good when they persevered. Today people want perfection and to be catered to.
10:51:11 <Jake> along those lines, I tried to learn about GT predictions and their use in the UGB. Many people want the prediction reduced to a single number
10:51:42 <Jake> unfortunately, the complexities of explaining geysers & predictions can't be reduced to a number (at least as I can figure out)
10:52:22 <Jake> so, instead of trying to explain complexities to someone complaining about bad predictions, I rather just say "well, tough shit"
10:52:56 <Jake> for the record, I didn't hear anyone complain only gazers talking about experiences with visitors complaining specifically about Beehive
10:54:04 <ynpvisitor118> good one Jake, use it or don' is great you give any BH prediction
10:55:32 <Dave from B™> Exact prediction...hahahahahaha
10:55:46 <Stephen G.> I agree 118, even having a BH prediction is nice for a window. But BH will do what it wants, and that's why the NPS dosn't predict it
10:56:32 <Stephen G.> I don't think there's any way for an exact prediction... even OF can't be predicted down to one number
10:57:34 <ynpvisitor26> The show is called Paving The Way The National Park-To-Park Highway I am sure it is one they will repeat until the DVD wears out. I think it is from 2009.
10:58:35 <Jake> the best I've come up with is reducing it down to a word or an emoji based on probability of erupting now or soon: terrible, bad, maybe, OK, decent, great, on fire!
10:58:36 <Dave from B™> Jake, do you have a disclaimer on your prediction page?
10:59:36 <Dave from B™> I don't see one...that should help alleviate some of the complaining
10:59:39 <ynpvisitor91> Wait... I thought there was a park employee hired full time just to turn on and off the geysers....
10:59:43 <Jake> there is one on the website. the BH prediction is getting written on the board @ OF Lodge front desk (I think due to Will last year) and any fine print is lost at that time
11:00:18 <Dave from B™> disappearing fine print? :)
11:01:19 <ynpvisitor26> 91, that position was made redundant.
11:01:35 <ynpvisitor91> Tee hee
11:02:25 <ynpvisitor26> Well, Enjoy Lion.
11:02:46 <Dave from B™> There is a geyser in New Zealand that erupts at 1015 every day
11:06:28 <ynpvisitor999®> that must be Lady Knox
11:07:27 <Dave from B™> I don't remember. My wife and I are planning a 30th Wedding Anniv trip to NZ in Jan-Feb 2020. Just started reading about NZ. Sounds like a beautiful place
11:09:00 <Stephen G.> I can't remember, is Lady Knox the geyser there that gets soaped to get it to erupt?
11:09:10 <ynpvisitor999®>
11:10:52 <Bill> Does anyone know if there were people out observing for the last Steamboat eruption?
11:10:54 <Dave from B™> yep
11:11:19 <Bill> I had an audio recorder out there and I'm hoping to get a good recording of it going off... minus the yelling
11:11:36 <ynpvisitor999®> there were at least three people there
11:11:52 <Dave from B™> Most gazers were going up the next morning so you may have a quiet audio this time
11:13:15 <Bill> Sweet!
11:13:36 <Bill> I still need to get out there. This is the first eruption I've missed this year (steam phase at least).
11:13:47 <Dave from B™> Bill, do you know if National Geographis is planning on having a reporter at Steamboat for their live show?
11:14:28 <Bill> I don't think that's part of their schedule
11:14:31 <Bill> But i can verify
11:14:54 <Bill> We'll have some of the TAPP team on camera though. They're the ones who fix some of the boardwalks, collect trash, etc
11:15:03 <Bill> They also help me with collecting data and inventorying
11:15:55 <Bill> The camera crew is on a pretty specific schedule
11:16:28 <Dave from B™> Do you know how many hours they are live each day?
11:17:04 <Bill> I do not
11:17:22 <Bill> again i can find out though. let me send an email off
11:17:50 <Dave from B™> That's okay. I'll do some digging online and find out
11:18:18 <Bill> I just emailed our PR/communications person (aka my landlord haha)
11:18:46 <Dave from B™> Bill, you are a seasonal, correct? When does your assignment end this year?
11:19:19 <Bill> I was hired on as an intern, but I'm full time now.
11:21:26 <Bill> i transitioned over on 1 April
11:23:42 <Stephen G.> This may have been answered a while ago, but what happened to the temperature loggers at Norris, like Steamboat, Echinus, Constant? Are they down?
11:24:30 <Bill> The nps ones or USGS ones?
11:24:35 <Bill> NPS ones are good
11:24:53 <Bill> They're not live though.
11:24:55 <Stephen G.> USGS
11:25:06 <Bill> I'll look into it
11:26:05 <Dave from B™> That's great. I'm glad you're full time
11:26:13 <Stephen G.> Thanks Bill. I noticed on this page, they haven't been updating. I went to the USGS page with the graphs as well, and nothing.
11:30:43 <Bill> It sounds like a problem with either the receiver antenna or the network connection.
11:32:16 <Stephen G.> Ok. Thanks Bill; I was just curious on why they seemed to stop.
11:35:49 <Kent> I fell asleep in my office chair. Kevin, that was a really bad joke :)
11:37:31 <Kent> I appreciate the BH prediction very much! I also have at least an appreciation of statistics.
11:43:34 <ynpvisitor...> probability not statistics. Don't know a thing about statistics despite a gazer friend's efforts. "One point does not make a trend"
11:46:19 <Dave from B™> I love airlines...they just paid my wife $700 to sit in the Chicago airport for 2 extra hours
11:46:50 <Kevin L™> I could do that.
11:46:54 <ynpvisitor...> Almost a living wage
11:47:12 <Dave from B™> $350/hour...Can I have that in a full time job, please?:)
11:48:09 <ynpvisitor...> You should move to Seattle. It will be the minimum there soon :)
11:49:29 <Kevin L™> My kid had to make a run to Albuquerque today and all the flights were full so he had to drive. Left last night after work, stayed at Flagstaff and was there at 0700. Had to take an old work truck since there weren't any trucks available to rent either.
11:50:25 <Dave from B™> Yuck
11:50:47 <Bill> Just moved from Seattle, can confirm 15/hr will get you nothing
11:51:25 <Dave from B™> not even a Big Mac?:)
11:51:26 <ynpvisitor...> Bill, is the NG program just for an hour or two a day?
11:52:04 <ynpvisitor...>
11:52:49 <Jake> speaking of probability and statistics, the airlines treat that as a known risk. It makes more profit to over book flights based on the historical % of no-shows then pay people to take another flight when everyone shows up. Just a cost of doing business
11:53:09 <ynpvisitor999®> Great link, but I get a 451 due to GDPR
11:53:20 <Dave from B™> Jake, I agree. We're just happy to take their money when there overbooked:)
11:54:03 <Dave from B™> I wonder if a certain gazer will be watching?:)
11:55:42 <Bill> ynpvisitor...™, I'm not sure. I sent out an email to our PR/communications person and I'll let ya know
11:55:55 <Bill> I just know our one part, which, sadly I'm not part of.
11:57:39 <ynpvisitor...> Thanks Bill. I don't have NGTV and need to find a way to watch short of renting a motel room for four days
12:00:04 <Kent> Since I am obviously not going to get to work.
12:11:45 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Kent. I guess I better check to see if I have NG channel
12:29:55 <ynpvisitor999®> Kevin, do you have any tips on how to deal with temperatures near 100°F?
12:30:20 <Dave from B™> It's cold a swamp cooler
12:30:23 <Dave from B™> called*
12:30:39 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
12:30:58 <Kevin L™> Swamp would not work for him. Stay inside with the air conditioner.
12:31:24 <Dave from B™> That's right. DG has enough moisture already in the air
12:31:27 <ynpvisitor999®> point is, this house is well-isolated and doesn't have an A/C
12:31:50 <Kevin L™> Lots of cold drinks then!
12:32:33 <Kevin L™> Go to a restaurant that has AC. Movie theaters with AC are also good.
12:32:51 <Dave from B™> Go swimming!
12:33:03 <Kent> Keep solar heat out. don't use things that generate heat, open up house at night if it cools off.
12:33:23 <ynpvisitor116> Ice water in the tub.
12:33:34 <Kevin L™> Foil on windows helps.
12:33:52 <ynpvisitor999®> aluminum foil by chance?
12:34:00 <Kevin L™> Yes
12:34:12 <ynpvisitor116> And when it is -10, remember what it felt like when it was 100.
12:34:36 <ynpvisitor999®> I doubt we'll get that low in the Netherlands
12:34:54 <Kevin L™> Reflects the heat. Styrofoam sheets also work. My house has stucco over foil faced styrofoam.
12:35:24 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll give that a shot in my bedroom
12:37:16 <Kevin L™> When I was a kid we only had swamp coolers. A garden hose was our best friend then.
12:37:38 <ynpvisitor999®> what I could do too, to get my room to more normal temperatures (65°F with this heat), is put some kind of sprayer in front of my fan so that it sprays cold water in the hope it lowers the temps by a lot
12:37:49 <ynpvisitor116> Well, not supposed to get to 100 either.
12:38:20 <Dave from B™> DG, how long is your heat wave sticking around?
12:38:48 <ynpvisitor116> 65 and Kevin would have his woollies on.
12:39:37 <Kevin L™> We are showing 110°+ for at least the next 10 days. 111° here now.
12:39:44 <ynpvisitor999®> according to our national weather station on De Bilt it's predicted to hold for at least the next two weeks
12:40:00 <ynpvisitor999®> (two weeks is also the max the forecast goes)
12:40:34 <ynpvisitor116> I just read the tips from my power company and they say 'to save money set the AC to 78'.
12:40:43 <Kevin L™> That is really hot for you.
12:41:29 <Kevin L™> At 110° 78° seems really cool.
12:42:18 <Dave from B™> We set ours at 78 all the time
12:42:21 <ynpvisitor116> It is only 90, so better to just leave the windows open, and save the AC for when it gets warm.
12:42:49 <Kevin L™> For us a $500 power bill is not unusual.
12:43:01 <ynpvisitor116> Kevin sets his to 78 in the winter.
12:43:36 <ynpvisitor116> 500 dollar power bill and I would shoot myself.
12:43:53 <Kevin L™> Here is an interesting bit of trivia. What uses the most power in Las Vegas?
12:44:14 <Kent> Gaming devices?
12:44:15 <Dave from B™> Neon lights
12:44:25 <ynpvisitor999®> water pumps?
12:44:27 <ynpvisitor116> My first response is not PG.
12:44:38 <Dave from B™> haha 116
12:44:41 <Kent> :)
12:44:48 <ynpvisitor116> Second one is slot machines.
12:45:08 <Kevin L™> Street lighting and traffic signals!
12:45:25 <Dave from B™> You need more roundabouts, then!:D
12:45:29 <ynpvisitor116> Dave was close
12:46:21 <Kent> Vegas neon is one of the wonders of the modern world. I love the Strip at night!
12:46:24 <ynpvisitor116> I thought the big thing was replace signals with LED sets for the big saving over 20 years.
12:46:36 <Kevin L™> That one surprised me. I was in charge of the hookups for those at NDOT and they engineer I was working with told me that one.
12:47:01 <Dave from B™> I bet there are more traffic signals in LV than ALL of Montana
12:47:08 <Kevin L™> That saves BIG bucks, not only on power but on maintaining them.
12:47:09 <ynpvisitor999®> here it's almost roundaboutception - you have roundabouts which are oval and underneath a cycle tunnel, a so-called turbo roundabout with bike paths underneath, a dogbone-shaped turbo roundabout, roundabouts with bike lanes...
12:47:48 <ynpvisitor116> You have signal lights in Montana?
12:47:50 <Kevin L™> Roundabouts like snow cause cancer.
12:47:50 <Dave from B™> I'd love to see pics of those, DG! We have lots of standard round abouts in Billings west side
12:48:29 <Dave from B™> haha 116..some even have turn signals:P
12:49:06 <Kent> The times they are a changin :)
12:49:23 <ynpvisitor116> Horses still have the right of way don't they?
12:49:43 <Dave from B™> Think about a roundabout from a cost perspective for your local gov't. Don't you want them to save money when possible?
12:50:28 <ynpvisitor116> Don't let Cedar City hear about those fancy roundabouts, they will rework that backwards intersection under the interstate.
12:50:29 <ynpvisitor999®> if only Google Maps had updated I could show you them
12:50:30 <Kevin L™> The VC at Death Valley is reporting 122°
12:50:57 <Kent> Yay! GO DEATH VALLEY!
12:51:20 <Kevin L™> They did one one those backward interchanges on I-515 here in Henderson.
12:51:23 <Kent> A very good place to open a mummy factory.
12:52:04 <ynpvisitor116> Roundabouts work great when people remember to signal out and they are yeld in and not stop and wait.
12:52:18 <Kent> I like roundabouts OK, but do not like driving on the wrong side of the road
12:52:44 <ynpvisitor116> Wrong to who?
12:52:48 <Kevin L™> DG uses the right side.
12:52:49 <ynpvisitor999®> This is the dogbone-shaped roundabout I was talking about:
12:53:50 <Kent> Wrong, as in the lanes used by opposing traffic. It is very disconcerting.
12:53:52 <ynpvisitor116> They have one of those in Walla Walla Washington for a interchange.
12:54:34 <ynpvisitor999®> This is a turbo roundabout with bike lanes underneath it:
12:54:57 <ynpvisitor999®> And this is the oval roundabout:
12:55:08 <ynpvisitor999®> with bike lane under it
12:55:17 <Kent> That is fun. We would lose fifty old people the first day. I be an old people.
12:55:21 <Kevin L™> The worst roundabout I encountered is one coming in to Munich. You are on a freeway, all of a sudden you come up to a roundabout and then a traffic signal just as you exit the roundabout. Road has about 2" of rubber from people like me skidding to a stop.
12:55:43 <Kevin L™> BTW it is still there.
12:56:39 <ynpvisitor116> Dallas Fortworth needs some of those, they like confusing intersections.
12:57:34 <ynpvisitor999®> we also have a, for our standards, insane intersection farther to the north of the Netherlands
12:58:00 <Kevin L™> Here it is:,11.4511611,16.21z
12:59:04 <Kevin L™> Notice there is a cemetery there and now they built a Kentucky Chicken so the survivors can eat lunch while waiting for the ambulance.
12:59:18 <ynpvisitor999®> that's indeed dangerous
12:59:55 <Kevin L™> For sure. You come right off a long Autobahn trip to that!
13:01:11 <ynpvisitor116> Well, enjoy an early BH. I am done for the day.
13:01:38 <Dave from B™> haha. Thanks to both for the links. Montana is getting its first diverging interchange. I think that is what you guys were discussing as well
13:02:03 <ynpvisitor999®> This is that insane intersection (looking at it, it are probably a couple merged into one):,4.3768716,4268m/data=!3m1!1e3
13:03:18 <Dave from B™> That's an LA interchange!:D
13:03:44 <Dave from B™> Everyone in Los Angeles looks liek that
13:03:47 <Kent> I've got to go take a blood pressure pill and a Prozac just looking at that. Sheesh!
13:06:55 <Dave from B™> Those even scare Kyle Busch
13:07:39 <Kevin L™> That is what I-15 looks like now
13:08:46 <ynpvisitor999®> when I went over that intersection for the first time, I think I was amazed, as I had never seen such a large intersection ever before
13:09:19 <Dave from B™> There is one in LA that has 4 levels, I believe
13:09:55 <Kevin L™> Got several of those here Dave.
13:11:58 <Kevin L™> My idea of the perfect interchange:,-114.5364409,408m/data=!3m1!1e3
13:12:25 <Jake> what about The Maze in Oakland, CA?
13:12:56 <Dave from B™> Kevin, Rainbow Canyon?
13:13:05 <Kevin L™> That could get UGLY in an Earthquake Jake.
13:13:12 <Kevin L™> Yes it is Dave.
13:13:17 <Dave from B™> Jake, that looks confusing
13:14:19 <ynpvisitor999®> let me guess, this traffic sign is placed before it?
13:15:47 <Dave from B™> hahahaha
13:17:25 <Jake> I was living in San Francisco when one of the sections collapsed, the DOT put an incentive on the contract to finish early and it was done VERY quickly
13:17:27 <Jake>
13:18:07 <Kevin L™> I remember that. Just before a World Series game if I remember correctly.
13:19:21 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
13:22:32 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand ns
13:25:21 <Stephen G.> Nice Grand and SC dual
13:26:37 <Dave from B™> Thanks Jake...nice article.
13:29:26 <Dave from B™> Time to head out. Have a great evening everyone!
13:29:39 <ynpvisitor999®> Same to you, Dave
13:29:42 <Stephen G.> Same to you Dave
13:29:49 <Kevin L™> Bye
13:30:35 <Dave from B™> Watch up for those flaming geysers
13:30:38 <Dave from B™> out*
13:31:30 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if flaming in Blue Star means that it might act as a geyser sometime soon
13:52:27 <GO F&M> I see GO OBLONG worked overnight
13:53:06 <GO F&M> wow you didnt leave much for me
13:54:51 <GO F&M> hi Jake, how was your trip?
13:55:24 <GO F&M> I see it was bookended by big geysers and you got the one in the middle
13:56:56 <ynpvisitor114> Graham, "GO OBLONG" worked great! Now I guess F&M is next up :)
13:57:38 <ynpvisitor999®> if [i]GO OBLONG[/i] worked great, why not go with [i]GO GIANTESS[/i]?
13:57:49 <GO F&M> I am thinking F&M before Steamboat, but who knows
13:58:28 <ynpvisitor114> GO GIANTESS now thats a great idea.
13:59:08 <ynpvisitor114> SI
14:00:04 <ynpvisitor999®> that works too
14:00:31 <Kevin L™> I would be happy with GO AURUM
14:00:41 <ynpvisitor114> :) :)
14:03:48 <GO EXCELSIOR> haha be reasonable Kevin
14:07:53 <Kevin L™> Death Valley VC up to 123°
14:08:17 <Kevin L™> Only 115° here.
14:10:13 <GO EXCELSIOR> you are not even trying Kevin
14:15:26 <Kent> Now that's an umbrella!
14:25:14 <Kent> “Nationwide, heat is the #1 heat-related killer” Ya Think.
14:27:39 <ynpvisitor63> how was the tunnel-BH?
14:28:16 <Kevin L™> Do you really want to know?
14:28:27 <ynpvisitor63> sure
14:28:38 <ynpvisitor63> still no pretzel
14:29:54 <ynpvisitor63> we had a nice firework today. You would have liked it
14:31:34 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm calling it a day. Enjoy Split Cone
14:32:02 <ynpvisitor63> well, it´s late, and need sleep. Hi and bye DG
14:32:30 <ynpvisitor63> night all
14:36:14 <Kevin L™> Night
14:36:29 <Kevin L™> It was a tall dual Betty
14:39:36 <Kent> 127° is the hottest temperature ever measured in the Western Hemisphere so early in the year. Like I said, "cool"
14:41:44 <GO EXCELSIOR> 134 in Death Valley 1913 is reported
14:42:12 <Kent> Later in the year
14:42:31 <Kent> There is still hope for this year
14:43:14 <GO EXCELSIOR> ah i see
14:43:17 <GO EXCELSIOR> sneaky
14:43:38 <GO EXCELSIOR> no, it was 10 July
14:49:54 <Kent> 134 was earlier than 127 so the statement I read is incorrect.
14:51:29 <GO EXCELSIOR> fake news again ... even for temp records :(
14:52:01 <Kent> I am not skinny. I wonder if I drop dead in the desert if I would mummify or just puddle? :)
14:52:27 <Kevin L™> Dry up and blow away?
14:52:51 <Kent> Puddle up and dribble away?
14:53:15 <GO EXCELSIOR> what a surprise, another thunderstorm and flash flood warning here
14:54:40 <Kent> Never been to Death Valley. It has been added to my To-Do list. I can stop in Pahrump and buy a hat
14:56:12 <ynpvisitor97> Death Valley is amazing - it's a huge park.
14:56:13 <GO EXCELSIOR> its a hige amazing landscape, i was there in March and it was nice but windy. Then in Feb in a superblom year which was pretty 3 years ago
14:56:32 <ynpvisitor97> Last time I was there, it was just over 117 degrees F. In December, it's only in the 70s.
14:57:14 <GO EXCELSIOR> i dont think i would go after March as all the flowers will be toast as would I be
14:57:42 <Kent> I will go in January
14:57:43 <Kevin L™> It is interesting. Pahrump not so much. There is a reason they chose that place in Mars Attacks.
14:57:48 <GO EXCELSIOR> watch out for rains in the fall because they can give a superbloom in the spring
14:58:32 <GO EXCELSIOR> do you stay there Kevin or just long day trip?
14:58:41 <Kent> I have seen the superblooms twice between Vegas and Yermo. Amazing
14:59:05 <Kevin L™> I just do a day trip.
14:59:15 <Kevin L™> Superbloom in the desert is fun.
14:59:43 <Kent> Sorta beyond belief if you have seen the country in the summer.
15:01:37 <GO EXCELSIOR> Iguess it was just over 2 years ago ... here were my pics
15:01:38 <ynpvisitor118> is that rain or haze in the basin?
15:03:36 <GO EXCELSIOR> there were umbrellas, so could be rain
15:04:31 <GO EXCELSIOR> i lucked out being at a conference in Vegas during the superbloom and took an afternoon off
15:04:32 <Kevin L™> Radar showing rain
15:22:44 <Kevin L™> Death Valley VC up to 125°
15:26:16 <Kent> New Year's Eve at the Ranch. Looking forward to it.
15:32:52 <GO EXCELSIOR> you staying there Kent?
15:35:12 <Kent> Yes. 31st and 1st. I am told to bring my own food which is no surprise since it is Xanterra
15:35:44 <Kevin L™> If it is Xanterra bringing your own food is a good thing.
15:36:21 <Kevin L™> They have special prices today for rooms over their network.
15:36:24 <GO EXCELSIOR> wow i wouldnt expect them to actually SAY that
15:36:49 <Kent> If the room is clean and the AC works I will be happy.
15:37:15 <Kent> I can run back to Vegas for food or live off my hump.
15:38:11 <Kevin L™> Always check the fine eating establishments in beautiful downtown Beatty.
15:38:58 <Kent> I wonder if the "ranches" in Pahrump have restaurants?
15:39:42 <Kevin L™> Yes they do. I have an amusing story about that.
15:40:24 <Kent> I hope it doesn't involve an extremely tropical infection :)
15:42:21 <Kevin L™> One of them put up an illegal sign advertising the food (other "entertainment" is not allowed to be advertised). A group of Nuns came by and decided to eat lunch. It wasn't until they had eaten that they realized what the establishment was. They filed a complaint with the Governor's office and since I controlled the advertising I was the one who had to issue the violation.
15:43:58 <Kent> I expect the nuns got very good service. Would love to see their selfies.
15:44:35 <Kevin L™> I would have loved to see the other customers.
15:44:48 <Kent> :)
15:44:48 <Kevin L™> Split Cone major!
15:47:38 <Kent> That's a cute story. Better than your chicken joke :)
15:47:52 <Kevin L™> :)
15:50:54 <Kevin L™> Some day I will have to tell you why fire engines are red.
15:51:23 <Kent> I look forward to it
16:09:17 <Kevin L™> Or why mail doesn't move through the postal hub at Phoenix during sandstorms.
17:50:00 <GO EXCELSIOR> dome
17:50:23 <Kevin L™> What is that thing to the left of it?
17:51:02 <GO EXCELSIOR> lil sput?
17:51:43 <Kevin L™> yea, that thing on the mound that all the people are looking at.
17:52:03 <GO EXCELSIOR> eternities timepiece
17:52:11 <ynpvisitor18> gag
17:53:03 <Kevin L™> I was hoping for a 4 burst Aurum
17:53:57 <GO EXCELSIOR> quite a bit of water
17:55:09 <ynpvisitor18> The Inspired Knoll on the Firehole
18:06:03 <GO EXCELSIOR> dome
18:07:20 <GO EXCELSIOR> thats it from me, goodnight
18:09:44 <Kevin L™> Turn out the lights....
18:10:00 <Kevin L™> Good Knight Graham.
18:40:49 <ynpvisitor67> TIme for BH.
19:04:39 <ynpvisitor67> Looks turbanesk
19:13:31 <ynpvisitor67> yuk
19:13:43 <ynpvisitor67> I can not see Lion or BH
19:31:27 <ynpvisitor67> Missed Grand start, doing other things
19:55:13 <ynpvisitor67> Well BH will have to do with out me for a second day.
21:59:25 <ynpvisitor114> INDY