Showing logs for date: 2018-07-30
02:46:19 <ynpvisitor48> OF
03:23:30 <ynpvisitor16> no activity on Norris seismic monitor
04:48:15 <ynpvisitor116> Giant today? F&M?
04:48:56 <ynpvisitor60> both? I´ll buy that. And SB
04:49:46 <ynpvisitor116> Teeny blip on seismo line, may be gazers stomping their feet in frustration!
04:50:14 <ynpvisitor116> Does not seem like SB wants to cooperate
04:50:55 <ynpvisitor16> Too bad Dave and others had to leave
05:01:25 <ynpvisitor16> Castle
05:11:40 <Dave from B> Morning everyone. Internet provider is having problems this morning so I am chatting via my phone
05:13:08 <ynpvisitor16> Hi Dave, no SB yet hope you saw good things
05:14:46 <Dave from B> I’ve seen enough minors now. Steamboat is a cruel geyser. It eats gazers
05:15:32 <ynpvisitor16> I'll bet many of you are worn out
05:16:26 <Dave from B> I was only there 2 days. Today is day 5 for many. One night Kitt got 3.5 hours sleep
05:42:34 <ynpvisitor16> Daisy
05:45:11 <ynpvisitor74*> Nice Daisy.
05:46:24 <ynpvisitor16> nice daisy and Fluffy
06:00:48 <already used> Interesting lunar eclipse photo: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=146657
06:01:44 <Good Samarium> Dang Mars is bright right now
06:02:34 <ynpvisitor16> Lion
06:02:36 <ynpvisitor106> lion
06:19:39 <Good Samarium> There are a couple of big clouds over the trees!
06:22:08 <ynpvisitor87> Probably Grotto and Riverside.
06:22:35 <Good Samarium> Riverside definitely - seemed bigger than Grotto, but not anymore
06:24:51 <ynpvisitor87> Looks like Dave is sleeping.
06:25:14 <ynpvisitor16> he was on eariler
06:25:46 <ynpvisitor16> got it back isee, Dave
06:25:49 <Dave’s intern> Dave’s internet company is sleeping
06:26:18 <already used> You must have Cox.
06:26:19 <Dave’s intern> Still on my phone so even more typos today
06:27:05 <already used> Does that make business a bit tougher? Don't you need internet for those debit cards?
06:45:20 <already used> Watch for BH
06:49:26 <ynpvisitor16> F&M
06:50:31 <ynpvisitor16> Has to be
06:52:12 <Good Samarium> Darned trees
06:55:54 <ynpvisitor16> I hope a gazer was there
07:08:02 <Jake> isn't Joe the boy who cried F&M? ;)
07:08:18 <ynpvisitor16> YES I am :)
07:09:44 <Jake> someone was likely at least at Giant based on the Riverside and Artemisia reports earlier
07:09:59 <ynpvisitor16> I think this time if they send someone back there it will be confirmed
07:10:18 <Jake> can't be F&M, it's not dark
07:10:31 <ynpvisitor16> this is true!
07:10:36 <Jake> thus violating rules 1, 2, 4 and 6 of the F&M code
07:11:24 <Jake> I'm lat e in viewing, but if it's not F&M it's something very unusual and rare
07:12:03 <Jake> OF
07:12:39 <ynpvisitor16> Riverside was already done this time :)
07:13:33 <Jake> I try to think of other possibilities, like the 0818 Riverside was misidentified or typo'd but it all fits too neatly so congrats on catching F&M!!
07:14:20 <ynpvisitor16> Tks, riverside was definatly Riverside
07:15:42 <Jake> such confidence you've developed!
07:18:08 <ynpvisitor16> s strasser is the gazer that was at Rside and m b schwartz was at arttemisia
07:18:38 <ynpvisitor16> typos galore :)
07:20:52 <ynpvisitor16> Jake, does the VEC send out Ranger Gazers to verify?
07:20:57 <Jake> because of its location and big, bold start, it's common for people to call Riverside from Grand or Giant or Castle or elsewhere. it's not often that gazers will actually be AT Riverside when it starts
07:22:11 <Jake> not to my knowledge, not in the summer. maybe if one goes by on geyser predict when they're out updating signs AND they know what they're looking for. lots of if's
07:22:32 <ynpvisitor16> tks
07:31:07 <Dave from B™> Good morning again...this time from my computer...stupid internet provider
07:31:17 <already used> Allright. BH waited for me!
07:31:46 <Dave from B™> Kevin, I thought you were just slightly "used":)
07:37:24 <Kevin L™> When I logged on it told me "your nickname is already used. Enter your nickname" so I did!
07:45:57 <Dave from B™> I won't to apologize in advance. I'm not in a good mood this morning. Only host of issues including wasting 26 hours at the ship, getting stuck in an MVA last night, no sleep plus a whole host of things. First time I've returned from a gazing triip without a smile in history.
07:46:07 <Dave from B™> want*
07:46:35 <Kevin L™> Feeling a bit crabby?
07:46:44 <ynpvisitor16> HK is at Grotto how can we get him to check F&M?
07:47:49 <ynpvisitor2> good luck with that. It'll get checked soon though.
07:52:01 <Kevin L™> F&M 0848
07:52:41 <Kevin L™> Per Suzanne
07:52:59 <Dave from B™> Yeah...Suzanna was able to break away from the evil monster
07:53:10 <Dave from B™> Suzanne*
07:53:34 <ynpvisitor16> Yay I did not cry wolf...:)
07:53:44 <Dave from B™> Great job, Joe
07:53:58 <ynpvisitor16> :)
07:55:14 <ynpvisitor2> looks like no HP with the grotto start.
07:56:43 <ynpvisitor16> BH does not like me. :( I'm not able to stay and see it :(
08:01:15 <Kevin L™> :(
08:07:59 <ynpvisitor2> bathtub with sw vents after grotto start
08:08:39 <Kevin L™> Hope they get Giant today too.
08:09:04 <Dave from B™> I feel really bad for Bruce. He will not leave SB until it goes
08:11:54 <ynpvisitor45> it's his choice so no need to feel bad imo
08:12:22 <Kevin L™> I did that with F&M once.
08:13:57 <Dave from B™> I feel bad. He based his whole trip on seeing SB. Sitting on SB is mre emptionally draining then sitting on any other geyser
08:14:33 <Dave from B™> Norris is so isolated...no warm food...bathrooms are disgusting and you don't want to venture very far away from the monster
08:16:21 <ynpvisitor45> in retrospect do you wish you wandered around more?
08:16:37 <ynpvisitor45> or brought a book :D
08:17:10 <Dave from B™> I would rather visit than read a book
08:17:32 <Dave from B™> I should have stayed home and waited to see more consistency out of SB
08:18:14 <Kevin L™> Hey you did have a good night at a suite in Beautiful Downtown Gardiner.
08:18:27 <Jake> but once you get word of consistency, it's too late to get there
08:18:36 <Dave from B™> Best 5 hours of sleep and shower I've had:)
08:19:10 <Dave from B™> I'm afraid that may be my last chance for SB this year and it makes me sad
08:22:29 <Kevin L™> Daisy
08:30:39 <Dave from B™> Castle
08:30:44 <Kevin L™> Castle ie
08:30:55 <Dave from B™> sorry...that would be ie
08:31:23 <Kevin L™> Field has it 1029 ie
08:32:08 <Dave from B™> SteveO escaped as well...woohoo
08:35:58 <Dave from B™> Jim must be at Norris
08:43:55 <ynpvisitor45> Dave from B™, re the MVA. Don't they have guard rails all along the road there?
08:44:27 <Kevin L™> People keep knocking them down 45
08:45:16 <ynpvisitor45> I guess so!
08:47:06 <Dave from B™> 45, I didn'rt see exactly where it happened but seeing traffic from boiling river all the way to Mammoth was crazy
08:47:33 <Kevin L™> How far is that?
08:47:56 <Dave from B™> Thank you to whoever suggested the dirt road last night. I've taken it twice before. Not sure how I forgot about it
08:48:12 <Dave from B™> I would say about 3 miles
08:49:05 <Dave from B™> Most people were debating to stay parked or drive to West. Does anyone know when it reopened?
08:51:43 <ynpvisitor45> text message said 906 pm
08:54:19 <Dave from B™> wow...over 3 hours then
08:56:13 <ynpvisitor45> I imagine they would send those out in a timely manner, so, yup
08:56:47 <Kevin L™> do you know what happened?
08:57:06 <Dave from B™> Somebody pakred too close to the edge of the road near boiling river
08:57:29 <Dave from B™> Not sure how far the car stopped from the road
08:57:48 <ynpvisitor45> there is no parking there now - they have boulders and buckrail fences
08:58:35 <ynpvisitor45> so can't imagine where it would be farther up or down i guess
08:58:52 <Dave from B™> I'm guessing father up but I could see from my vantage point
08:59:19 <Dave from B™> couldn't
09:01:14 <Kevin L™> How is your field coming along?
09:02:02 <Dave from B™> It will be done today. Then I have to get sprinkling repaired
09:02:35 <Kevin L™> Great. One of those nagging items out of the way.
09:03:11 <Dave from B™> Yep. Hopefully that will be it for septic issues for the next 20-30 years
09:03:41 <Kevin L™> By then it will be someone else's problem!
09:04:18 <Dave from B™> If family is involved and my moen will be invested, I will always have to worry about it some
09:14:18 <Kevin L™> Your faucets are invested?
09:16:07 <Dave from B™> :D
09:16:38 <ynpvisitor45> drain field is a big moen
09:16:42 <Kevin L™> Well they are related to that field after all
09:19:58 <Kevin L™> Moose on Firehole Lake Drive
09:23:02 <Dave from B™> What do you call a moose that leaves an area quickly?
09:23:21 <Kevin L™> fast
09:23:28 <Dave from B™> vamoose
09:23:47 <Kevin L™> How do you make a slow moose fast?
09:23:59 <Dave from B™> Insert a grizzly?
09:24:09 <Kevin L™> Don't feed it.
09:24:18 <Dave from B™> haha
09:24:44 <Kevin L™> we have lift off!
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09:25:33 <Dave from B™> text rec'd
09:25:44 <Eric> Woot!
09:25:51 <Dave from B™> Hi, Eric
09:25:57 <Eric> Hi Dave :-D
09:26:06 <Karen> Thanks for the text alert.
09:26:18 <Eric> Yep...txt received
09:26:32 <Stephen G.> Thanks for the text.
09:26:38 <Eric> So many people here...awesome :-D
09:26:54 <Eric> We should rename this page, the virtual bench :-D
09:27:11 <Dave from B™> I like it
09:27:18 <Stephen G.> Sounds good to me :)
09:28:46 <Kevin L™> Hope Betty is off the train
09:28:57 <Stephen G.> I'm glad BH decided to wait for my lunch hour.
09:29:37 <Eric> Bee is so kind to people...much nicer than Aurum :-P
09:30:04 <Kevin L™> Aurum is probably ie right now.
09:30:17 <Stephen G.> No kidding! At least Bee gives you nice indicators most of the time before it erupts, haha
09:35:01 <Dave from B™> Hey, an erupting geyser...haven't seen one of those for awhile
09:35:13 <Kevin L™> Lot of people walking away
09:35:35 <Stephen G.> Sorry to hear you didn't get SB Dave :(
09:36:14 <Dave from B™> I'm sorry for everyone held hostage...especially people who are day 5
09:36:50 <Eric> BH
09:37:27 <Stephen G.> :bee:
09:37:53 <Kevin L™> Fuzzy Bee
09:38:04 <Dave from B™> Chris and Gideon are 5 days late leaving for home because of waiting for SB
09:38:07 <Eric> A bumblebee?
09:38:32 <Good Samarium> Nice cascade at the start
09:39:11 <Kevin L™> Probably a rainbow in there somewhere
09:39:16 <Dave from B™> Jimbo, great name today
09:39:38 <Good Samarium> Can't use it too many times, though
09:44:56 <ynpvisitor100> Saw two people watching OF under full moon during the 4:46 eruption - really neat
09:46:39 <ynpvisitor100> Via webcam, I should add
09:47:16 <ynpvisitor100> Which begs the question, what is the ISO equivalent of the Webcam, seems to be at least 3200
09:48:00 <Eric> Is variable, but when zoomed out all of the way, probably close to that 100
09:49:06 <ynpvisitor100> Under full moon, gave a half-way decent image, still noisy
09:49:43 <ynpvisitor100> I'd agree that the current ISO, with full sun, should be around 100, with smallish apperature
09:56:42 <Eric> I was agreeing with visitor100 :-D Not saying it has ISO 100.
09:57:40 <ynpvisitor100> Oh, thanks for clarification
09:59:50 <Dave from B™> Ahha. Graphs showed up. I wonder if that is why no one is at SB today
10:00:21 <Eric> :-D
10:01:26 <ynpvisitor2> not SB graphs?
10:03:49 <Dave from B™> not Sb but PorkChop graph is just as important. SB high part of cycle is 2 days after Pork Chop if I'm remebering correctly
10:04:20 <ynpvisitor2> yes PC is back
10:09:24 <ynpvisitor45> I'll bite - what am I looking for on porkchop? I thought they said Steamboat would erupt 2 or 3 days ago
10:11:47 <not ISO 100> By the way, we have some good Scandium in the lab, but alas, no samarium - not useful for us
10:14:02 <Dave from B™> If you look at the weekly porkchop graph, it looks like things peaked on July 25...therefore you would expect SB on July 27-28....which didn't happen. 45, I'm just repeating what others have talked about. I believe some will wait until after PC peaks again and go 2 days later.
10:15:06 <Dave from B™> My confusion comes in when you look at the monthly graph. Then, I become totally confused
10:16:26 <Dave from B™> To be honest, at this point, I think people are grasping at anytime trying to figure out a way to shorten the window
10:16:28 <ynpvisitor45> I read about it a few days ago in the log - let me go looking
10:16:40 <Dave from B™> anything*
10:18:07 <ynpvisitor2> 7/25 doesnt look like much of a peak. Steady decline since the 15th.
10:18:37 <Dave from B™> 2, that's what I see as well
10:19:21 <ynpvisitor2> last spike of any kind was 7/5 ish and SB went the next day
10:19:30 <ynpvisitor45> haha found you saying "tomorrow is the day" on Sat nite - but not what I was looking for
10:21:17 <Dave from B™> Yea...Saturday night many of us thought it would go overnight
10:21:34 <Dave from B™> Take a look at Vixen trail temps...big change of 7/16
10:24:17 <ynpvisitor2> same time PC temps started dropping
10:24:58 <Dave from B™> Was the end of the disturbance?
10:25:05 <Dave from B™> the = that
10:25:48 <ynpvisitor2> possibly. Did Vixen behavoir change? Pork Chop?
10:26:18 <Eric> grand of
10:26:33 <Dave from B™> 3rd Grand already for today
10:28:41 <Dave from B™> I need to read up on the disturbance. Does it effect the Back Basin more than Porcelain?
10:30:06 <Rice> Sometimes everyone forgets the #1 rule in Geysers which is...........
10:30:44 <Dave from B™> "It's a geyser"
10:31:06 <Rice> And it does what it wants to do
10:31:07 <ynpvisitor2> depends on the disturbance. Some are basin wide. Some are back basin only. Strength varies.
10:31:30 <Eric> #1 it will erupt before or after dave arives?
10:31:48 <Betty> hi all
10:31:52 <Steph> "It's a geyser, and it does what it wants to do".... sorta like a teenager
10:31:53 <Eric> Hi Betty
10:32:01 <Rice> Ok, sorry mine is 1A
10:32:07 <Betty> hey Eric
10:32:17 <ynpvisitor45> I thnk for Norris you need eyes on the ground not just on the graphs.
10:32:48 <Eric> Meh, geysers are physical systems, they do what their environment dictates. Even if we don't understand what exactly that means :-D
10:33:15 <Kevin L™> Sort of like a teenager...
10:33:16 <ynpvisitor116> That peak cycle theory someone had here the other day was very off...
10:33:29 <Eric> True Kevin :-D
10:34:25 <Betty> hi Kevin, Dave, Rice, Steph, and numbers
10:34:26 <Dave from B™> 45, I heard that comment at Norris. Need to now the weather
10:34:38 <Steph> Hi Betty!!!
10:34:39 <Dave from B™> know* UGGH
10:34:58 <Kevin L™> Hi Betty
10:35:06 <Good Samarium> Kind of around 8 minutes
10:35:10 <ynpvisitor116> I bet the gazers at SB are crouchy
10:35:20 <Good Samarium> Grouchy too
10:35:24 <Dave from B™> They may be crouching:)
10:35:34 <Betty> must be Jimbo
10:35:47 <Good Samarium> Are they crunchy?
10:35:55 <ynpvisitor116> No cam op?
10:35:55 <Eric> Crusty?
10:35:57 <Betty> crispy?
10:36:07 <Good Samarium> Pause???
10:36:15 <Betty> Rusty!
10:36:16 <Dave from B™> BOOM
10:36:18 <Eric> boooooom
10:36:31 <Betty> fun
10:36:38 <ynpvisitor116> People in the field
10:36:39 <Eric> awesome second
10:36:46 <ynpvisitor2> wow
10:37:00 <Rice> Did you see the people running down the board walk toward Grand?
10:37:02 <Steph> Awwwww!
10:37:14 <Rice> Too late
10:37:16 <ynpvisitor45> but no one goes out of the cage . . .
10:37:59 <Good Samarium> My lag-wait for the 2nd seemed to last a longer time than usual
10:38:35 <Eric> They just had a GHP at 1150, I bet a few wondered up to Grand after that
10:44:15 <ynpvisitor45> ^^ meant at Steamboat Eric - for eyes on the ground
10:44:37 <Eric> ahh
10:45:10 <Dave from B™> 45, many people abanadoned the monster today
10:45:22 <Dave from B™> Look at UGB field reports today
10:46:28 <Eric> Glad I caught the first one, when it was "easier" to guage.
10:47:14 <not ISO 100> Nice look at Daisy, thanks Operator
10:47:47 <Jake> I spoke with Polly when I was in the park about the Porkchop graph interpretation
10:47:52 <Eric> or gauge :-P
10:48:20 <ynpvisitor45> what I mean is you see stuff on Vixen and Porkchop graphs but no one goes to look other than watching minors at SB
10:48:36 <Jake> the best I could come to is that changes in the cycle are with local minima and maxima, like you eyeball it and go it changed *here*
10:49:00 <Dave from B™> 45, very good point
10:49:43 <Jake> it seems like a practice ripe for apophenia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
10:49:51 <Jake> but we all have our theories :D
10:50:39 <Jake> oh, she did say that the Porkchop sensor was moved and it used to be better or show more detailed change
10:50:44 <Eric> kind of like wet weather and BH intervals :-D
10:50:52 <ynpvisitor2> or it applied once or twice sort of but then.....
10:51:05 <Jake> the difference Eric is that one is true
10:51:13 <Eric> haha
10:53:41 <Jake> Beehive had a long interval today, therefore it is cold and wet
10:53:44 <Jake> it's just science
10:55:42 <Dave from B™> Is it possible to have sensors loggers that measure other important variables and what would those variables be? How can we measure plumbing system changes?
10:56:26 <Eric> You could put water in the systems and when it shoots out, the pressure has changed.
10:57:21 <Betty> Maureen had a Moose on FLD, nice!
10:58:00 <Dave from B™> Really, Eric...that's how you're gonna be today?:P?)
10:58:19 <not ISO 100> Differential pressure between vents? Would be very small changes, and need to take into account wind and barometric effects
10:58:20 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon all, evening Betty
10:58:39 <Betty> evening DG
10:58:47 <Kevin L™> Was it a chocolate moose Betty?
10:59:08 <Betty> don´t ask me, ask Maureen :-)
10:59:13 <Eric> Sorry Dave, snark is all I got today :-P
10:59:19 <Dave from B™> :D
10:59:27 <Jake> water level on Cistern is like a "sensor" on the system. I can't think of anything else other than have a 100' cable down Steamboat's vent with temperature sensors every 10 or 20 feet
11:00:08 <not ISO 100> IR sensors could be helpful here, not sure distance that they can work, and would have to 'see' directly down the vent
11:00:21 <Dave from B™> ok...let's do that then. You're in charge of the project Jake
11:00:22 <Jake> or the seismograph array concept
11:00:47 <Eric> Yes, was just wondering if the Jamie has released any of the sensor data yet?
11:00:49 <Dave from B™> not ISo, that's a good idea. Is that the same as LODAR?
11:01:10 <Dave from B™> or is LIDAR
11:02:11 <not ISO 100> You can buy thermal imaging cameras, or check Omega catalog for IR temperature probes. I had one, but someone in the lab walked off with it - we were using it to measure steam pipe temperatures
11:02:32 <not ISO 100> Not sure if NPS would like you walking to a vent and pointing it down, though
11:02:46 <Jake> great, it's a relatively inexpensive thing, tech-wise. Just need to find someone with enough PhD's after their name and political clout to get the clearance to do it
11:02:52 <Eric> Really long selfie stick 100 :-D
11:03:07 <Kevin L™> Bet Bill could do it.
11:03:36 <not ISO 100> At a minimum, you could sense temperature changes of what is coming out of the the vent, or temperature of geyserite at vent opening
11:04:01 <Dave from B™> They have sent a probe into OF...why not SB?
11:04:35 <not ISO 100> Looks like a probe just crawled across the webcam >(
11:06:27 <Kevin L™> That was probably one of those mosquitos
11:09:27 <ynpvisitor45> Dave from B™, just heard from someone that the MVA was a car in the river
11:10:06 <Kevin L™> Hard to drive a car in a river.
11:11:25 <Dave from B™> 45, that's not a good parking spot
11:11:57 <Kevin L™> Worse than a rock.
11:15:37 <Dave from B™> 45, have you seen any photos yet. I would love to know exactly where that occurred?
11:16:35 <Dave from B™> Wonder if the car was a rental
11:16:49 <ynpvisitor118> my text message stopped just short of saying where the MVA was
11:16:56 <ynpvisitor45> nada - just a mention in an email
11:17:50 <Dave from B™> 45, I'm sure you know how narrow that road is from Mammoth CG to Boiling River. There were people walking up and down the north shoulder to gawk and gather info. It was crazy
11:18:08 <ynpvisitor118> new term for a hot period by hk, Medium Weak
11:18:43 <ynpvisitor118> I'm glad there was an alternative route for you Dave. Was it an official detour or only people went that knew where it lead?
11:19:49 <Dave from B™> No one was saying anything. There was about 6 vehicles on the road when I hit the dirt road entrance
11:20:03 <Dave from B™> Many were talking about going thru West
11:20:30 <Dave from B™> The dirt road is not the safest road around. I hope not too many non 4 wheel drive cars took it
11:24:08 <ynpvisitor118> I'm glad it got you home
11:24:14 <Dave from B™> My first post here last night was incorrect. I said only northbound traffic was stopped. I noe realize so many people were turning around that it looked like southbound traffic.
11:24:22 <Dave from B™> now*
11:25:55 <Dave from B™> For someone who waited until the last possible second to leave SB, I wasn't thrilled with the stoppage
11:27:06 <Dave from B™> You like this. My wife received an email this morning because my car was parked in a pullout near Norris CG and it had been there for 2 days (It did move at night). They wanted to make sure I was okay.
11:27:27 <Dave from B™> So, yes, NPS LE can find you!
11:28:04 <ynpvisitor45> how on earth do they have her email address?
11:28:19 <Dave from B™> For those you wanting to know how that experiement worked. There are 2 good siezed hille between there and the Norris parking lot
11:28:24 <Kevin L™> Might get it from Xanterra
11:28:34 <Dave from B™> 45, I would love to know how that transpired
11:28:43 <Dave from B™> Kevin, that could be
11:29:00 <Kevin L™> Those siezed hill can be evil.
11:29:34 <Dave from B™> I walked up the second one on Day 2. That bike ride is tough when you haven't had anything to eat yet
11:30:23 <Kevin L™> My last trip back from the basin was almost my last trip this year. It was tough.
11:33:16 <ynpvisitor118> Dave, you rode your bike back and forth? I thought you were staying in Norris CG
11:33:43 <ynpvisitor118> that is wild they had her E mail address attached to your license plate
11:34:32 <Dave from B™> 118, Bruce's site was too small. I slept at the Hillcrest in Gardiner. There were at least 3 vacancies in Garidiner Sat night]
11:34:57 <ynpvisitor118> oh so you got back to the park before construction delay started?
11:35:23 <ynpvisitor118> I thought you would not leave SB, given your limited time
11:35:52 <Dave from B™> No construction delay on weekend.
11:36:06 <ynpvisitor118> oh nice, two way traffic then?
11:36:16 <Dave from B™> 118, my body needs sleep. I stayed almost until dark
11:36:33 <Dave from B™> yep...2 way traffic (it was only me). going 40
11:37:11 <ynpvisitor118> well I sure wish it would have gone for you. I heard Chris D is still there, he was supposed to be back home already
11:37:41 <Dave from B™> Yep, he was supposed to leave 5 days ago. He has to leave at noon today or tomorrow.
11:38:00 <ynpvisitor118> yes, his tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow...
11:38:31 <Dave from B™> :D
11:38:41 <Dave from B™> He has to be back at some point on August 1
11:38:53 <Dave from B™> He lives 2800 miles away!
11:38:56 <ynpvisitor118> that won't happen now, even if he drives straight through
11:39:32 <Dave from B™> Gideon is a lot of fun
11:39:54 <ynpvisitor118> like you, they really want to see it
11:40:02 <ynpvisitor118> at least they got 2 Giants
11:40:26 <Dave from B™> To most, it is the holy grail of gazing. You may not ever get another chance to see it
11:40:38 <Dave from B™> Bug went home
11:41:07 <Kevin L™> Nice color in Giantess steam
11:42:09 <Dave from B™> Tom C has written a song about SB
11:42:26 <not ISO 100> There is a nice 'Street View' image of May, 2018 SB eruption on Google Maps, its the third marker from the left
11:42:51 <Kevin L™> Any of the words have more than 4 letters?
11:43:20 <not ISO 100> Its the closest I'm going to get :D
11:43:50 <Dave from B™> haha, yes. In fact, about 6-10 geysers sang the song on the platform Sat night and tourists were watching with cameras in hand. Might want to check you tube soon.
11:44:05 <Eric> haha
11:44:09 <Dave from B™> gazers not geysers
11:44:17 <not ISO 100> geezers?
11:44:25 <Dave from B™> I refrained but those singing did a great job
11:44:40 <Dave from B™> gazers have many hidden talents
11:44:58 <Eric> Some of them should stay hidden :-P
11:45:21 <Dave from B™> yes
11:45:42 <Eric> But totally agree Dave, gazers are quite the diverse community.
11:49:46 <Dave from B™> I'm still trying to figure out my talent
11:50:24 <Betty> you are good in lowerig your ears :-)
11:52:10 <Dave from B™> hahahahaha
11:52:23 <Kevin L™> Catching baseballs.
11:52:43 <Dave from B™> catching or stopping?
11:53:00 <Kevin L™> I guess stopping.
11:54:04 <Kevin L™> BTW there was and old game show on the other night that had a Yankee baseball player. He hit a foul ball and it hit his Mother in the stands!
11:54:27 <Dave from B™> ouch
11:54:53 <Kevin L™> Out of over 25,000 people!
11:55:59 <Dave from B™> But he knew where she was sitting
11:58:15 <Betty> OF
12:01:51 <Dave from B™> Good thing I can sell fish. As my wife says, how was your weekend staring at dirt?
12:03:47 <ynpvisitor118> well you stared at minor water eruptions too, right?
12:04:05 <ynpvisitor118> looks like Barb left SB
12:04:38 <Dave from B™> 118, I've seen 44 hours of SB minors over 2 trips. I think that's enough minor activity for now
12:05:15 <ynpvisitor118> ha ha, so gazers stayed in basin this a.m. for F & M...
12:05:21 <ynpvisitor118> quite a list of folks NOT at SB
12:05:23 <Eric> Not just dirt, some water, rocks and trees!
12:05:44 <Dave from B™> 118, yes....many were able to escape SB today
12:05:44 <ynpvisitor999®> still nothing in YNM and YNR, though YNR now shows more seismic activity than a few days ago
12:06:09 <Dave from B™> I'm guessing Bruce is there. Hopefully someone is keeping him awake
12:06:13 <ynpvisitor118> I did not realize they wanted to escape Dave
12:06:26 <ynpvisitor118> yet glad they got a daylight F & M
12:06:38 <ynpvisitor118> maybe Giant will go, same day...
12:07:13 <Dave from B™> 118, many had watched for 4 straight days. That is tough...very little sleep and terrible backpack food for all meals for 4 days strauight
12:07:39 <Dave from B™> I think many will stay until Giant goes and then return to the prison
12:07:47 <ynpvisitor118> I get it. Tara was not listed at F & M, maybe she tried with SB
12:08:01 <Dave from B™> Jim S may be at SB as well
12:08:09 <ynpvisitor118> they call the platform prison?
12:08:14 <Dave from B™> I do
12:08:21 <Dave from B™> No one else
12:08:23 <ynpvisitor118> that is hilarious
12:08:47 <Kevin L™> Is SB the warden?
12:08:51 <ynpvisitor999®> a prison you can leave, but you generally don't want to because of SB
12:08:51 <Dave from B™> You can't escape. you're ready to leave and then a big minor makes you stay for more
12:09:18 <ynpvisitor118> Tara had to work, so maybe she skipped both
12:09:27 <Dave from B™> You can leave prison...what kind of criminal syatem you have over there, DG?:)
12:10:40 <ynpvisitor999®> a criminal system where prisons need to be closed because too few are behind bars
12:10:55 <not ISO 100> "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave..." Welcome to the hotel SB ;)
12:11:14 <not ISO 100> I have great admiration for you guys that can patiently wait for so long
12:11:20 <ynpvisitor118> SteveO is back yet again. He has more days this season in the park than out
12:11:29 <Kevin L™> Sounds like a Film Noir
12:12:00 <Dave from B™> 100, Hotel SB...I like it
12:12:22 <ynpvisitor999®> someone should put a sign up there during active phases
12:12:30 <ynpvisitor16> F&M replay, a few minutes from this am, https://youtu.be/Pb0kBnYSrWE
12:12:31 <Dave from B™> 100, who said anything about patience?:)
12:13:03 <not ISO 100> Back in the day, I'd wait hours for just the right light at water falls in Yosemite, but not days
12:13:10 <Dave from B™> SteveO will be retiring next summer....He said longer but fewer trips after retirment
12:13:20 <ynpvisitor45> in the 80's they had a sign up to answer the question "how long have you been waiting"
12:13:22 <ynpvisitor16> starts at 48:33
12:14:18 <Dave from B™> 45, there was discussion of a group of signs to answer most frequent questions. How long have you been waiting was the most common question
12:14:35 <Dave from B™> Also, when is it going to erupt? What are the signs of an eruption?
12:15:14 <Dave from B™> Is that guy dead or is he just sleeping? (just kidding)
12:15:26 <ynpvisitor118> hahahaha
12:15:27 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks for the video, 16
12:15:36 <ynpvisitor16> yw
12:16:04 <ynpvisitor45> and they crossed out the #, 3 days, 4 days, 5 days, etc
12:16:52 <Dave from B™> All I can say is it must be worth waiting for. Kitt has seen 4 and she is still willing to invest many days there
12:17:33 <Dave from B™> I've been wondering if I'll be disappointed because of all the hype
12:17:48 <ynpvisitor2> nope
12:18:49 <ynpvisitor118> Kitt has only seen one from the start, big difference
12:19:08 <ynpvisitor2> everything you've heard or read is far removed from the actual impact of being there!
12:19:27 <ynpvisitor118> yet videos are close
12:19:33 <ynpvisitor45> JimS said it FAR exceeded his expectations
12:20:11 <ynpvisitor2> disagree. videos ok but visceral impact not experienced
12:20:15 <ynpvisitor45> and he keeps going back
12:21:00 <ynpvisitor75> videos impressive but not like being there.
12:21:28 <Eric> Yes, video does no justice to being there.
12:21:50 <ynpvisitor2> Eric is right!
12:23:07 <Eric> At least for me...everyone is different though.
12:26:36 <lc> I agree with Eric.
12:26:37 <Dave from B™> Well, I guess I will go back again, then:)
12:28:30 <Dave from B™> but it will be a month or two
12:30:46 <Dave from B™> Bruce is not in a good place either.....Many people talked about good food all day long.
12:31:09 <Dave from B™> Bruce couldn't even peel himself away for a60-90 minutes and get some food in Canyon
12:31:51 <ynpvisitor45> have to have "good food" in your car
12:31:56 <Eric> ugg, I hope Bruce stays healthy out there.
12:32:12 <Eric> That heat and sun is brutal!
12:34:16 <ynpvisitor45> Bruce is in UGB - see GT
12:35:01 <Eric> At least they have water and bathrooms now at Norris, back in my day...... :-P
12:38:44 <ynpvisitor45> .
12:39:38 <Stephen G.> A little late to the conversation, but I agree with Eric. The video does not do being there from the start justice.
12:56:51 <Dave from B™> I am shocked Brice isn't at SB
12:57:03 <Dave from B™> Glad he was also able to escape
12:57:34 <Dave from B™> Eric, the bathroom has 2 faucets that break every day and it is FILTHY FILTHY
12:57:45 <Dave from B™> Maybe NPS should clean it more than once a week
13:00:55 <ynpvisitor16> When I was at Norris, the tour busses were running about 300 people per hour through those bathrooms...EEK!
13:02:52 <ynpvisitor16> I know, I should have been watching geysers instead of bathrooms, but I've got a wife :)
13:03:21 <ynpvisitor999®> those faucets must be terrible then. I have actually never seen a broken faucet anywhere I went
13:03:23 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
13:04:02 <ynpvisitor999®> shortest interval of the past 100 :)
13:05:46 <Dave from B™> The facilities are Norris are in serious need of upgrading. I say bring back Larry's Lunch Station!
13:05:53 <Dave from B™> are = at
13:06:47 <Dave from B™> They have actually built a new trail from the road near the junction where overflow people have been parking
13:07:17 <Dave from B™> It's funny how fast gov't can do things sometimes
13:13:58 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
13:15:39 <Betty> time for sleep, night all
13:15:54 <ynpvisitor999®> night Betty
13:16:05 <Kevin L™> Night
13:16:22 <ynpvisitor999®> nice SC bursts
13:33:11 <ynpvisitor999®> OF ie
14:04:12 <Dave from B™> 4G memory card for $37.99...remember when memory was REALLY expensive
14:05:14 <Jake> that sounds really expensive 4GB SD Card?
14:05:47 <Dave from B™> for a computer
14:06:33 <Jake> 4GB RAM? what kind of card?
14:06:34 <Kevin L™> I spent $60 for 16K once.
14:07:41 <Dave from B™> Jake, you are acting like I've been swindled!:) Micron 4GB DDR3L 1600 UDIMM
14:09:08 <ynpvisitor16> good price
14:09:30 <Jake> ah OK...RAM. I was thinking an SD card for a camera/computer
14:20:25 <Dave from B™> That bug looks like he is moving in
14:20:42 <Dave from B™> Time for me to head home. Have a good evening everyone!
14:22:28 <GO GIANT> hello
14:22:47 <ynpvisitor16> Hi Graham
14:23:49 <ynpvisitor16> update your geyser scores F&M +1
14:24:37 <GO GIANT> Yep, 12, 12, 9
14:24:44 <GO GIANT> glad it was for real
14:24:57 <GO GIANT> have to get Giant sped up .... SB wout go till Dave tries again
14:25:05 <GO GIANT> sorry it was a loss Dave
14:25:20 <ynpvisitor16> Me too, :) I don't like crying wolf :(
14:25:43 <GO GIANT> i guess he quit already
14:26:09 <GO GIANT> looks lie more peeps gave up on SB and decided to watch something else erupt
14:26:24 <ynpvisitor16> F&M replay a few min https://youtu.be/Pb0kBnYSrWE
14:29:02 <GO GIANT> nice big boom for F&M
14:29:19 <GO GIANT> i see why you called it last time, steam was well over ... but that happens
14:30:03 <GO GIANT> i wonder what SB looks like today ... i expect someone will report later
14:30:52 <ynpvisitor2> people went there this am and came back right away.
14:31:16 <GO GIANT> ah, thats not a good sign, maybe its reverted back to less
14:31:20 <ynpvisitor16> Luckily Riverside was 30 minutes earlier so it was easy to decide that it was F&M
15:03:12 <GO GIANT> I see Bruce left SB, he was the RIverside observer
15:05:06 <GO GIANT> given the reported SB refugees its odd nobdy said what it looked like this morning
15:06:49 <ynpvisitor45> time for Giant :)
15:07:03 <GO GIANT> must be bad there for him to break away
15:07:18 <GO GIANT> yes it is
15:07:51 <ynpvisitor6> Too bad SB temp logger is not posting. There is a cycle at Norris, this could be the normal "lull" in the cycle at SB. If it is, watch for an increase starting sometime tomorrow. Looking at Porkchop logger though, it could be another disturbance starting....
15:08:15 <GO GIANT> lets hope it sticks with short intervals, its only had one so far and it was half a dy more
15:10:12 <ynpvisitor45> half a day, don't follow that GO GIANT
15:11:12 <GO GIANT> we are at 6d2h, last was 6d14h
15:12:36 <ynpvisitor45> got it - I was thinking of steamboat not giant :P
15:18:17 <ynpvisitor9> more cycles without loggers?
15:22:30 <GO GIANT> two hort Daisy intervals, 2h17m and 2h18
15:24:27 <GO GIANT> now i see a mass of SB posts
15:26:50 <GO GIANT> looks like Udo had fun there on his own .. bet tha tgets people moving
15:28:42 <ynpvisitor2> that's a lot of woohoos
15:30:34 <GO GIANT> if peeps went this morning I am a bit surprised they came back. of course maybe it wasnt good earlier than Udos reports
15:32:04 <ynpvisitor45> guess its not in a 'lull'
15:32:55 <Kevin L™> Not sure what a W00-hoo is but it sounds good.
15:33:44 <GO GIANT> he defines it on one comment
15:34:11 <ynpvisitor45> Giant F&M and Steamboat on the same day would be epic!
15:34:45 <GO GIANT> if you are there for them
15:35:06 <GO GIANT> and throw in Giant
15:35:11 <GO GIANT> Giantess
15:35:23 <Kevin L™> Maybe an Aurum
15:41:51 <Stephen G.> Looks like Udo had a good time at SB this morning/afternoon... I bet UGB will be deserted again tomorrow if it hasn't erupted by then.
15:45:59 <ynpvisitor9> if it's so woo hoo, why did he leave so early?
15:46:17 <ynpvisitor9> makes no sense that he would not stay for the next woo hoo
15:46:24 <GO GIANT> hungry?
15:46:32 <Stephen G.> Prior obligations?
15:47:12 <GO GIANT> might have died down too
15:47:15 <ynpvisitor2> he's seen it a couple times at least. home is close by.
15:47:32 <GO GIANT> Udo does have a life outside the park
15:47:35 <ynpvisitor9> I would love to see someone else's notes. Like Bruce J, why is he back in basin when his ONLY goal was to see SB?
15:48:03 <GO GIANT> he has spent a longtime there, it gets to you after a while
15:48:14 <Stephen G.> Yeah; I think Udo has saw SB 3-4 times.
15:48:22 <GO GIANT> Udo has seen enogh jactivity to nw what he is seeing
15:48:27 <ynpvisitor9> he was on this chat page for a good week saying it was his ONLY destination
15:48:35 <GO GIANT> he has seen more than anyone else I think
15:48:48 <ynpvisitor9> I would say that would be cb
15:49:20 <Stephen G.> I thought Bruce mentioned Giant as well as something to see. SB obviously takes priority, but like Graham said, it gets to you waiting there after awhile.
15:49:26 <ynpvisitor9> I hope there are people there when it goes
15:49:39 <GO GIANT> Udo has been there a lot, he has seen 3 from the start, right?
15:49:42 <ynpvisitor2> people are there
15:49:58 <GO GIANT> I expect someone is there, yes
15:50:59 <Stephen G.> I think Udo has seen the most from the start. I'm guessing at least CB and BBev are probably there at this point.
15:51:00 <ynpvisitor2> gazers you know are there now. more on the way. with no UGB posts on GT
15:51:51 <ynpvisitor2> Im wondering if some who left didnt go back after F&M went and Giant has not
15:52:07 <GO GIANT> i expect so, just have no info and with Udos post I expect some would go to see themselves
15:52:24 <Stephen G.> I'm guessing so. After Udo's post, I think a lot went back.
15:53:04 <ynpvisitor9> how would they have gotten Udo's posts? They were JUST uploaded.
15:53:05 <Stephen G.> With everything in the Upper and Lower Basin finished for right now, it'd likely be SB over Giant for a lot of folks
15:53:40 <ynpvisitor2> maybe even before after Beehive/Grand
15:54:04 <Stephen G.> hk may still be at Giant, however.
15:54:33 <ynpvisitor2> Giant could go anytime with its next strong hp. or not
15:54:38 <ynpvisitor9> he has his theories about hot periods so he is not there all day, only when he thinks there will be one
15:54:55 <ynpvisitor2> he was at 1646
15:55:00 <GO GIANT> worked out well for HK so far
15:55:20 <ynpvisitor2> 1656
15:55:44 <ynpvisitor2> bijou pause
15:55:54 <ynpvisitor9> in his notes, he said he saw Giant yesterday, I think he meant to say Grand
15:56:20 <ynpvisitor9> and still think it's weird that he posts Bijou as an eruption when it pauses. Everyone else posts it as a note
15:56:34 <Stephen G.> I know in his last observation, he thought Giant may erupt mid-afternoon, but it doesn't look like Giant has had a strong hot period yet today
15:56:58 <ynpvisitor9> read the day before, just a typo yet funny
15:57:07 <Stephen G.> Maybe it's something with hk's Geyserlog App why they get posted as eruptions? He's the only gazer I've seen that uses it so far
15:57:37 <ynpvisitor32> That’s a lot of minor activity for steamboat. It may need a 12 hour slow down now
15:58:20 <ynpvisitor2> a mid sized hp at 11:50. we havent been seeing those with this renewed activity at Giant
15:58:40 <GO GIANT> so Giant tonight?
15:58:52 <ynpvisitor2> pause should be a note. It's a stoppage of eruption obviously.
15:59:26 <ynpvisitor2> Also HP is when feather erupts. At least thats how it always has been.
15:59:30 <GO GIANT> and then Bijou stats so if its the start its still a "correct" entry. MK was also entering data differently
16:00:09 <ynpvisitor2> differently from how he used to years ago
16:01:00 <ynpvisitor2> except the time listed is for the start of the pause not the end. the stoppage is the event.
16:01:23 <ynpvisitor118> you just have to round up to the nearest start time
16:03:23 <ynpvisitor2> Bathtub with Sw vents is not a HP. Feather has been the start for a long time
16:03:48 <ynpvisitor2> Thats the way Paul Strasser Mary Moss and even Keller taught
16:08:23 <Stephen G.> hk still at Giant. Just posted another Bijou pause
16:10:20 <ynpvisitor2> Wonder what is happening with Grotto. Only 1 start listed for the day. But 2 Rockets. It may be ie now
16:24:00 <Stephen G.> That's interesting on Grotto. hk is sitting down there, so it's interesting he (or anyone else) hasn't posted any additional Grottos
16:29:55 <GO GIANT> .
16:29:56 <GO GIANT> .
16:29:57 <GO GIANT> .
16:29:58 <Kevin L™> Grand
16:30:27 <ynpvisitor118> great light
16:32:03 <ynpvisitor9> SteveO is not at SB
16:32:07 <Stephen G.> I guess SteveO didn't make the trip to SB; he's got the Grand entry
16:32:53 <ynpvisitor9> do notes show up on the Android app?
16:33:10 <ynpvisitor9> in the daily summary?
16:33:24 <ynpvisitor93> Steamboat looks like it's having fun torturing everyone
16:38:39 <ynpvisitor2> notes do show up in the android app
16:38:57 <Stephen G.> Another Rocket and no Grotto
16:39:04 <ynpvisitor9> thanks 2
16:39:59 <ynpvisitor2> Grotto was ie just not posted in basin. got a text to confirm
16:40:13 <Stephen G.> :thumbsup:
16:40:18 <ynpvisitor2> but not a marathon
16:40:55 <ynpvisitor2> Time for Giant event possibly soon
16:40:59 <ynpvisitor9> looks to be a 1 burst
16:41:14 <ynpvisitor9> shouldn't we be on OF watch?
16:41:28 <ynpvisitor2> not sure why hk not posting
16:42:07 <Stephen G.> Thanks for the info 2; not sure why he wouldn't be posting them, especially if he's been near the Cage most of the day
16:43:52 <ynpvisitor45> sometimes posts are delayed when the tower is overloaded
16:44:09 <ynpvisitor9> he has posted since, so that is not the case here
16:44:33 <ynpvisitor2> its his way
16:45:44 <ynpvisitor2> we need a monitor on grotto again
16:52:18 <ynpvisitor45> think we could see Giant on cam on a hot day like today?
16:54:13 <Stephen G.> LC
16:54:24 <ynpvisitor9> we'd see the steam for sure
16:54:41 <ynpvisitor9> it has not had much height in last eruptions, so maybe not the water
16:55:02 <ynpvisitor9> Grand was very steamy
16:55:16 <ynpvisitor2> south function giants are traditionally smaller
16:55:18 <ynpvisitor9> Giant may be waiting for dark
16:56:02 <GO GIANT> good job they are all Normal function
16:58:18 <ynpvisitor2> Grand could go short and hit 5 in a single day
16:59:27 <GO GIANT> hasnt had an interval that short in the last 100 tho
17:00:52 <ynpvisitor2> no obviously. but would be fun
17:01:57 <GO GIANT> .
17:02:21 <ynpvisitor2> and another 5h34m I is darn close
17:04:04 <Stephen G.> I might've missed it, but does anybody know why the Constant temperature logger is working again, whereas the Steamboat and Echinus ones aren't?
17:07:10 <lc> talked to Kitt, they are waiting for Giant HP, going to Norris early tomorrow (if it don't go tonight).
17:07:51 <ynpvisitor2> thanks LC
17:08:15 <lc> I hope Bruce is there now.
17:08:19 <ynpvisitor9> they being Kitt and SteveO?
17:08:21 <lc> yw 2.
17:08:28 <lc> yes
17:08:47 <ynpvisitor2> Appears mkstly all the Norris loggers are back online except Steamboat and Echinus
17:08:53 <ynpvisitor9> Bruce was in the UGB not too long ago
17:08:59 <lc> and maybe a few more
17:09:38 <ynpvisitor9> if Giant erupts, it will be all they have left
17:09:42 <lc> wonder if he went back up soon as he got Udo's notes.
17:10:51 <lc> hope udo is not jerking them around, don't think he would do that.
17:11:03 <Stephen G.> Thanks 2; I just looked at the Porkchop graph. It's interesting how it's been cooling down slightly the last few days.
17:11:17 <lc> bet Bruce is a wreck.
17:11:35 <ynpvisitor2> cooling since the 15
17:12:23 <Stephen G.> I saw that as well; I'm curious to see if that means anything for the rest of the basin.
17:13:00 <Stephen G.> And yeah, Bruce is probably a wreck at this point. I hope he at least gets Giant.
17:13:23 <ynpvisitor2> coincides with changes in Vixen soil graph too (less range of fluctuation) though not sure what that means
17:13:39 <lc> I hope he gets at least one of them.
17:14:49 <Stephen G.> Interesting. I saw MAB was at Vixen all day Saturday. Hopefully it doesn't mean things are slowing down. Judging by MA's day, it doesn't look like Vixen has
17:15:07 <ynpvisitor2> Grand 5h31m I May 19
17:15:33 <lc> I sure hope SB will hold off until daylight tomorrow.
17:18:00 <lc> have a good night all. I will check in early tomorrow.
17:20:45 <Stephen G.> .
17:20:57 <Stephen G.> Have a good evening lc
17:34:14 <Stephen G.> Lion
17:42:03 <Stephen G.> Sprinkler ie
17:42:25 <Kevin L™> Daisy ie
17:44:26 <Stephen G.> Looks like some great light for Daisy
18:11:19 <GO GIANT> i am done for the day
18:11:30 <GO GIANT> GO STEAMBOAT
19:37:43 <Kevin L™> Looks like they ran out of woo-hoos.
19:47:40 <ynpvisitor63> Lots of light at BH for 11 hours
19:48:06 <ynpvisitor63> Whoops 10 hours
19:49:29 <ynpvisitor63> yuk