Showing logs for date: 2018-08-01
23:34:33 <ynpvisitor116> Of
23:35:09 <ynpvisitor116> Grand
23:36:43 <ynpvisitor116> A short?
23:37:06 <ynpvisitor116> Seems so
02:24:34 <ynpvisitor40> OF
02:25:16 <ynpvisitor40> some suspect steam in Giant area for some minutes now
05:13:53 <Dave from B™> Good morning fellow gazers
05:14:23 <Betty> morning Dave
05:14:30 <ynpvisitor5> Good morning Dave
05:14:48 <ynpvisitor5> and Betty
05:15:11 <Betty> morning 5 and numbers
05:15:23 <Betty> Oblong
05:15:32 <Betty> ??
05:15:54 <ynpvisitor5> Looks like
05:15:57 <Betty> guess HK will know
05:16:21 <Dave from B™> Turban?
05:17:37 <Betty> HK has the Turbans only in his Grand data sheet
05:18:44 <ynpvisitor5> Probably Turban, Oblong would be much wider
05:19:16 <Betty> think you´re right
05:19:31 <Betty> morning Stephen G.
05:19:43 <Stephen G.> Morning Betty
05:19:50 <Stephen G.> Morning everyone
05:20:01 <Dave from B™> Morning Stephen G.
05:20:30 <Stephen G.> Morning Dave
05:22:05 <Dave from B™> I have a question for everyone....we've all spent lots of time listening to tourists talk about geysers in the basin. Besides erupt, explode and "go off", what other words have tourists used for an erupting geyser?
05:23:20 <ynpvisitor5> HK must be in the cage he was there this morning and did not post Grand 0133
05:23:51 <Dave from B™> Would he have gone in after the GHP?
05:26:27 <Stephen G.> Explode is the one I've probably heard the most. I've heard "spout" and "shoot up"
05:29:13 <Betty> bbl
05:30:53 <Dave from B™> Enjoy the tunnel
05:30:57 <ynpvisitor5> the geyser turned on
05:32:38 <Stephen G.> Or "When are the rangers going turn the water on to the geyser?"
05:32:53 <ynpvisitor5> also "thats what we waited for?
05:33:02 <ynpvisitor5> "
05:33:45 <Dave from B™> Grand ie
05:35:26 <ynpvisitor5> what is a Grand minor?
05:35:50 <ynpvisitor5> Oh, she changed it
05:37:23 <ynpvisitor5> Looks like BHCCI is active
05:39:15 <ynpvisitor5> based on steam from BH's backside
05:40:39 <Dave from B™> I know everyone has flocked to Giant. If it lengthens its interval back to June, early July intervals, they may have 4-9 dys of watching
05:43:40 <ynpvisitor76> Smoke in basin and it never cooled off. Could be a long, hot day for gazers.
05:44:19 <ynpvisitor2> too early for Giant. Strong hp last night
05:45:22 <Dave from B™> When do you consider a GHP a strong one?
05:45:34 <ynpvisitor76> It could do something unexpected
05:46:08 <ynpvisitor76> It’s taken hk by surprise before
05:46:18 <ynpvisitor5> 1b
05:47:00 <ynpvisitor2> when it is long, big mastiff ofl, and really tries to erupt,
05:49:02 <Dave from B™> 14 minutes is long. Any idea what Micah meant by mentioning Mastiff activity last night as a digression?
05:50:21 <ynpvisitor2> its surging was wide and sustained.
05:50:46 <Dave from B™> So, not necesarily a digression but just different than most hot periods seen this year?
05:51:50 <ynpvisitor2> digression may not have been the best choice of words. i think he was expressing something was different
05:52:16 <Dave from B™> Sounds like auto correct
05:52:34 <Dave from B™> Thanks, 2. That's what I was thinking
06:01:52 <Dave from B™> I hope the overnight crew at Giant gets a chance for some sleep today
06:02:57 <ynpvisitor2> is that Grotto steam
06:04:36 <ynpvisitor5> the steam to the right of Turban? Most likley
06:04:45 <ynpvisitor76> I don’t think they stayed overnight Dave. I think they all departed for sleep after the hot period.
06:05:11 <ynpvisitor5> likely*
06:05:49 <ynpvisitor2> night watchers went in. barely missed Grand
06:06:16 <ynpvisitor2> looks like another 4 Grand day
06:06:24 <Dave from B™> Ok. that makes sense. I know HK would leave after a good hot period
06:06:39 <Dave from B™> But he is back out there already
06:07:00 <ynpvisitor76> Short sleeps
06:07:05 <ynpvisitor2> Micah got rocket after
06:07:13 <Dave from B™> He probably got 5 hours sleep. What more do you need?:)
06:08:21 <ynpvisitor76> Here’s to this next Giant finally having some height!
06:08:29 <ynpvisitor2> Grotto steam confirmed
06:08:53 <ynpvisitor2> maybe a small hp soon
06:09:45 <ynpvisitor2> Some people went back to Norris today
06:10:53 <ynpvisitor76> They’ll be back in UGB soon
06:11:29 <ynpvisitor2> already a bathtub this am.
06:11:47 <Dave from B™> When I was at OF in late June, it seemed GHP's were 15-22 hours apart. They seem much closer now. What do you make of shorter GHP intervals?
06:11:50 <ynpvisitor76> Interesting decision with Giant having strong hot periods
06:12:23 <ynpvisitor2> energy shift
06:13:06 <Dave from B™> energy shift from north to south function or just more energy in the syatem period?
06:13:47 <Dave from B™> That should have said south to north
06:13:49 <Stephen G.> I agree. Given Jim's note yesterday as well. Jim was saying SB regressed yesterday
06:14:25 <Dave from B™> SB has a big pull on gazers because it is so impressive
06:15:06 <Dave from B™> So, I've been told
06:15:33 <Stephen G.> Very true. If there wasn't a good chance for Giant, I'd have probably went to check on it too. But, with Giant looking strong lately, and SB being erratic, and from what Jim and others said yesterday, a bit weaker, I'd likely be at Giant.
06:15:42 <ynpvisitor5> and rare, may be the last of a persons lifetime event
06:15:43 <ynpvisitor2> I still wouldn't "expect" a strong hp until later but I'd be there.....
06:16:49 <Stephen G.> But, if the last Steamboat report wasn't a "regression" as Jim put it, I'd likely check out SB as well.
06:18:18 <Stephen G.> Interesting to note Porkchop got warmer again yesterday, according to the graph.
06:19:02 <ynpvisitor76> Stephen will you still return if SB stays in non eruptive mode?
06:22:50 <Stephen G.> Yeah. I'll be there Friday night, right around the 14 day mark. Given it's last interval was just longer than 14 days, I think it'll be worth checking out if it hasn't erupted by then. Either way, I'll be back in the park. I'll likely miss Giant, but will still have a great opportunity to see F&M.
06:23:50 <Bill> Morning all
06:24:13 <Stephen G.> Morning Bill
06:25:24 <Dave from B™> Morning Bill
06:26:01 <Silicon Valley> Anyone else notice something happened to the Kilauea Webcam yesterday?
06:26:55 <ynpvisitor5> looks like they zoomed it
06:27:45 <Silicon Valley> And broke it!
06:29:26 <ynpvisitor5> last pic 1802 local time
06:30:55 <ynpvisitor31> Total coverup.. UFO's landed with the mind control they use to cloud seed via airplanes.. They're heading to Yellowstone to trigger it to erupt next... NORAD is also covering it up
06:31:15 <Bill> WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT??!
06:31:18 <Bill> i mean... no...
06:32:12 <Mike J> We control the horizontal. We control the vertical
06:34:18 <ynpvisitor5> I just bought some new aluminum foil
06:36:20 <Dave from B™> Where's the eyeroll emoji?
06:36:46 <Mike J> THEY TOOK THAT TOO!!!!!
06:37:04 <Silicon Valley> :i::i::i::!::!::!:
06:37:19 <ynpvisitor5> Fast as fast can be, you'll never catch me
06:37:23 <Dave from B™> Bill, you are doing lots of studying at Norris. What have you learned this year
06:44:09 <Dave from B™> Did I stump Bill?:)
06:46:40 <ynpvisitor5> I'll bet he has learned the answer for everything is, "it's a geyser"
06:52:59 <Dave from B™> I was curious if they have thought about probes for SB vents. Last time vent was probed may have been in the 80's. Some newer technology today compared to 30 years ago
07:06:06 <Dave from B™> The answer may be "it's a geyser", but we have to look for better answers
07:10:38 <ynpvisitor5> The costs of research are going up astronomically, if funding wasn't a problem, with our current technology I think we would have many answers.
07:11:13 <ynpvisitor106> lion
07:12:25 <Dave from B™> It would be fun to have a symposium on YNP geothermal research where gazers were invited as well. I would love to know details of what is being studied
07:15:33 <ynpvisitor90> Cost of research is not going up any more then the cost of a pick up truck. The park service seems to be able to keep it's fleet of vehicles updated.
07:19:04 <ynpvisitor9> Looks like BH is the place to be right now
07:19:23 <Silicon Valley> I was going to answer Dave's question for Bill: "Under the most rigorously controlled conditions of pressure, temperature, volume, humidity, and other variables, any observed geyser will do as it damn well pleases." (paraphrasing the Harvard Law)
07:19:29 <ynpvisitor9> odd to see people there again
07:19:48 <Bill> Dave from B™, sorry for the delay
07:20:09 <Silicon Valley> Did you like my answer, Bill?
07:20:34 <Bill> I have a decent amount going on when I'm on here. Sometimes I miss messages.
07:20:47 <Bill> And that does seem strikingly accurate!
07:21:38 <Bill> As far as studying in Norris goes, we obviously put some more loggers out, got some footage, we have a (mostly) cheer free audio recording of an eruption now at steamboat.
07:21:59 <Bill> We are starting back up the NPS inventory for the first time since 2007, and Norris is the starting point
07:22:11 <ynpvisitor9> though it was a smaller eruption that was recorded, right?
07:22:50 <Bill> I mean, compared to the first couple they've all been smaller.
07:23:04 <Bill> In terms of total energy output
07:23:44 <ynpvisitor5> Riverside
07:23:58 <Bill> We have a pretty good amount of data that I'm itching to go through this winter. Right now the priority is making sure we have data collection and management techniques in place that will last us into the future
07:24:03 <Bill> No more pen and paper
07:25:32 <Bill> Another goal is to get a better handle on the changes of hot springs and geysers over time.
07:25:50 <Bill> Including adding any historical records into a database
07:27:49 <Dave from B™> just back...let me read up and I'll be back
07:28:09 <Bill> To your original question, what have we learned this year.... not much yet haha. Summer is usually very busy and putting out fires here or there. Winter is when we get actual analysis done.
07:29:03 <Stephen G.> Big crowd at the West Gate.
07:29:28 <ynpvisitor9> early crowd today
07:29:28 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Bill. So, in the middle of winter I will ask you again:)
07:30:01 <Dave from B™> Any chances that you will probe Steamboat vents?
07:31:21 <Bill> For sure! Autumn will be the geology department showing off what we've done for the year. We have been leading an "Impacts" app that we hope other divisions such as Interp will pick up. It's a way for them to log any kind of impact from people, vegetation, wildlife, and put it into a database that people can access for analysis or remediation
07:31:27 <Kevin L™> On your earlier question Dave, "When is it going to blow" is common.
07:32:38 <Bill> There's some other big stuff too. We would like to take some samples from the vent of Steamboat when we get a chance. That'll have to be before winter
07:32:48 <Bill> because snowshoeing out to Steamboat is not fun
07:33:05 <Bill> My first week here was snowshoeing to Echinus... took 3 hours.
07:33:19 <ynpvisitor9> you'll have plenty of time before snow when park closes
07:33:40 <ynpvisitor9> 3 hours one way? Or total trip?
07:33:46 <Bill> Total
07:34:09 <Bill> I had just moved from Seattle, so i was used to about 200ft of elevation, not 7000 haha.
07:34:25 <ynpvisitor9> or snow!
07:34:48 <Bill> Seriously
07:37:29 <Dave from B™> What type of efforts are being made to try to figure out water "reservoirs" of Steamboat and how many and how big they are?
07:38:14 <Bill> Best bet is probably the seismic nodes that YVO / University of Utah put out a while ago.
07:38:45 <Bill> We now have a park hydrologist, but the scope or direction of that work has yet to be seen.
07:39:22 <Bill> The new hydrologist definitely wants to do my hydraulic work in the park
07:41:04 <Dave from B™> Nice to see science staff increasing
07:41:47 <Dave from B™> Thanks again for all the work you do.
07:41:57 <Bill> We'll have a geomorphologist (landslides, things that you can see changing within human life-scales) in the near future as well.
07:46:06 <ynpvisitor45> Bill, Thank you for the work being done. I enjoy checking the Instruments & Data Site,it's so interesting
07:48:21 <Dave from B™> 45, I'm not familiar with that page. Can you post the link, please?
07:49:42 <Stephen G.> Indy?
07:50:01 <ynpvisitor5> BHI 0949
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07:51:56 <Dave from B™> Hey there indy
07:51:57 <Betty> HA!
07:52:22 <ynpvisitor45> Sorry left for coffee refill. It's
07:52:22 <Betty> LC
07:52:24 <ynpvisitor9> Norris seismo really gets noisy about now
07:52:24 <Kevin L™> You made it Betty!
07:52:50 <Betty> yeah
07:52:53 <Silicon Valley> That's right Beehive, make them wait until the end of the prediction window.
07:53:09 <ynpvisitor9> builds fortitude
07:53:31 <ynpvisitor9> it may not make the window
07:53:34 <Betty> thx Kevin, and without txt alert
07:53:49 <Dave from B™> Thanks 45
07:53:51 <Stephen G.> Yes. I'm guessing the seismo noise at Norris is just all of the people walking by?
07:54:03 <ynpvisitor9> yes, humanity
07:54:16 <ynpvisitor45> You are sure welcome Dave
07:54:36 <ynpvisitor5> did you not get text, Betty?
07:54:39 <Stephen G.> That's what I figured, being as the seismo is VERY quiet through the evening and morning.
07:55:00 <ynpvisitor9> I think Betty means she signed on at the right time
07:55:10 <Dave from B™> Kevin, thanks for your answer. That's a popular one
07:55:28 <Kevin L™> She doesn't get texts in Germany, but she sends them!
07:55:39 <Betty> I only get email alerts, And I don´t see them when they come in
07:56:13 <Dave from B™> 45, I got an error message on that link
08:00:12 <Betty> you are correct, 9 :-) I did that about 6 times the last 10 days :-) a good average
08:00:25 <Eric> Morning
08:00:27 <ynpvisitor9> BH must like you!
08:00:42 <ynpvisitor2> Dave you know the site already:
08:00:49 <Betty> (but easy when you are the owner of the button :-D lol)
08:00:53 <Dave from B™> Morning Eric. Life settle down yet for you?
08:01:06 <Betty> hi Eric
08:01:15 <Betty> poof
08:01:16 <ynpvisitor9> Eric must be gearing up for his next visit to Yellowstone
08:01:18 <Eric> BH
08:01:23 <Dave from B™> yes I do...oops
08:01:33 <Eric> Yep, trying to figure out how to get bikes on the car :-)
08:01:53 <Stephen G.> :bee:
08:02:00 <Eric> roof rack, hitch rack or just hanging rack on back of car.
08:02:20 <ynpvisitor9> BH out of window!
08:02:32 <ynpvisitor45> Yes, 2 that's it, sorry Dave
08:03:03 <Betty> people running
08:03:13 <Eric> Nice looking Bee
08:05:39 <ynpvisitor19> :daisy: ie - last pull back?
08:06:25 <ynpvisitor9> can cam ops see different views of basin?
08:07:47 <Betty> I don´t think so
08:08:18 <Dave from B™> I have another question for the group....Of the 3 factors that geysers need (water, heat and plumbing system), which do you feel causes most of the interval variation for a geyser
08:08:44 <Eric> Yes
08:09:06 <Betty> location of the water source
08:09:31 <Betty> size of the chamber etc
08:09:50 <ynpvisitor101> 9 -- no we can't see anything different than you see. If you are asking how I got the start of Daisy, I pulled the view back from Beehive for a couple seconds at the start of each minute to do a quick check of Daisy until I saw it was starting.
08:11:10 <Betty> time for cooling down in the pool. bbl
08:20:41 <Silicon Valley> Plumbing system, Dave. From what I've seen of laboratory geysers, just a loop in the tubing makes a much more variable performance. Look how many vents Giant has!
08:21:46 <Silicon Valley> One of the reasons cited for OF being so regular is that it is quite isolated from other geysers. Probably applies to Lone Star, too.
08:22:24 <Silicon Valley> And recall that if Giantess erupts :( , Beehive play is affected.
08:32:06 <Kevin L™> Nice tall OF
08:32:56 <Mike J> Sometimes we get jaded. It's good to take a moment and look at Old Faithful. There's a reason it has its well-deserved fame.
08:34:16 <Stephen G.> I agree Mike. Each YNP trip, I make it a point to specifically wait for Old Faithful and watch it at least once.
08:35:37 <Stephen G.> Lion
08:35:42 <Kevin L™> It is very nice from the hill
08:36:06 <Stephen G.> I think the Hill is my favorite spot to watch it from.
08:36:50 <Dave from B™> Jimbo, I agree. I think plumbing system most effects variability in geysers
08:37:02 <ynpvisitor2> By the lodge is good too
08:37:19 <Dave from B™> So, how can we best examine plumbing systems?
08:38:06 <Dave from B™> NPS staff did a great job with their Steamboat talks last weekend. I just wish one staffer wouldn't call OF the only predictable geyser
08:49:25 <Tech Pan 25> Geophones may work - back in college we were able to see various underground structures - with today's 3D imaging, may be able to get some high-resolution details - no really my area anymore
08:51:20 <Jake> Dave, rangers were doing a guided tour at Norris or hanging out at Steamboat and answering questions?
08:53:53 <Dave from B™> Jake, they have 15 minute talks at SB on lower platform. I remember 1 on Sat and 2 on Sunday
08:54:51 <Kevin L™> Lot of people on GH right now.
08:55:52 <Dave from B™> That's the "Wakeup Giantess Rally"
08:56:23 <Stephen G.> Hopefully the "Wakeup Giantess Rally" will work... in a couple of days :)
08:59:01 <Dave from B™> We should probably just rename it Giantess Spring or Pool
08:59:35 <Stephen G.> No kidding. I know Udo has called it "Lake Placid" this summer in a couple of his notes on Giantess.
08:59:59 <Stephen G.>
09:15:52 <Dave from B™> It's about time for another GHP
09:19:19 <ynpvisitor2> GHP 1037
09:20:21 <Dave from B™> Another failed attempt:(
09:21:07 <Stephen G.> I think it'll still erupt in the next day or so. It's had some strong hot periods.
09:23:06 <ynpvisitor2> evidently another big ghp with feather restart
09:27:01 <Stephen G.> Kitt just posted a Steamboat note on GT. No vertical minors from North :(
09:40:14 <ynpvisitor51> Can Kitt’s post be true? 47 minors in one hour of observation?
09:42:15 <ynpvisitor51> Giant might be back to the dark side.
09:43:04 <Dave from B™> When you consider every little wispy minor...I can see that
09:44:08 <ynpvisitor51> Thanks Dave, I thought that sounded like a lot yet I have not seen it
09:44:59 <Dave from B™> SB is rarely completely quiet
09:45:02 <Kevin L™> Plate?
09:45:05 <ynpvisitor51> I hope it’s not really 12 hours until next GHP. Last interval was 10, so maybe a sunset Giant?
09:46:25 <ynpvisitor31> Lion
09:49:05 <Dave from B™> So, what did SB look like say in 2013-2017, when it erupts once or not at all during a year. How many minors and what type? Does it look like it could go any minute or does it look dead?
09:50:30 <ynpvisitor108> Generally minors every 2 to 3 minutes, durations 30 sec to 2 min each.
09:51:01 <ynpvisitor108> Water mostly whispy, with occasional water to the tree tops from lower platform
09:51:26 <ynpvisitor108> Some runoff, but rare to see a cascade
09:51:32 <ynpvisitor2> not like in the 90's when it was quiet. doing almost nothing
09:51:58 <ynpvisitor108> Occasional South Jet, but infrequent and not more than about 10 ft tall.
09:52:33 <ynpvisitor108> No North vertical. Extremely rare jetting, only to a few feet.
09:53:30 <ynpvisitor108> Concerted ranging anywhere from 30 to 60% except when approaching an eruption (weeks leading up to) or when a Disturbance was imminent.
09:53:32 <Dave from B™> Thanks 108. I was especially curious about north vertical
09:54:10 <Dave from B™> 108, what does 71% concerted today mean to you?
09:54:11 <ynpvisitor108> Common for % concerted to go into the 90's right before a disturbance, but with no real volume to the minors.
09:55:06 <ynpvisitor108> 71% is promising, but not enough to keep me there overnight....
09:55:53 <ynpvisitor108> Unless there is water volume to go with it.
09:56:10 <ynpvisitor108> One key has always been North Vent strong
09:57:48 <ynpvisitor108> Not sure what everyone was calling "jetting" early in this sequence of eruptions. What I have called "jetting" is best described as a "hot white swirl" - lots of water, very different look from normal minors, and with volume to it.
09:59:23 <Dave from B™> I know what spritzing is from slanted north vent. I consider jetting to be north vent not vertical but a definite increase in volume and not as quite of an angle as wispy spritzes
10:00:26 <Dave from B™> It's funny that even on a bad day, Steamboat is still the tallest active geyser at Norris
10:06:07 <Dave from B™> I reread my post. Hope that didn't come out rude...not my intention
10:08:50 <Dave from B™> Yeah...Donnie G is back
10:08:58 <ynpvisitor9> sure wish the smoke would go away
10:09:21 <Dave from B™> I'm afraid it is fire season. I'm glad smoke stayed away as long as it did
10:09:53 <ynpvisitor9> yes, I agree, it is so overbearing though, the haze
10:10:17 <ynpvisitor9> some blue sky on West Gate cam
10:11:21 <Dave from B™> We did get a wiff of Bacon Rind fire at Norris on Sunday for a few minutes
10:12:10 <Kevin L™> That doesn't sound all bad.
10:13:18 <ynpvisitor9> I heard Norris got smokier after your departure
10:13:40 <ynpvisitor9> UGB has gotten the worst of it
10:14:24 <ynpvisitor31> 2-3 years ago it was so bad your eyes and throat burned
10:15:00 <ynpvisitor9> I bet there were burning eyes yesterday
10:17:55 <Tech Pan 25> If you want to see smoke, take a look at some of the Yosemite Park webcams - Half Dome totally obscured
10:18:41 <Eric> looks like it rained up at mammoth
10:19:09 <Eric> Maybe that will help drop some of that smoke
10:19:23 <ynpvisitor31> holy crap
10:19:46 <Eric> poo blessed by the pope?
10:20:03 <Dave from B™> I think 31 was looking at Yosemite pics
10:20:08 <Eric> ahh
10:20:26 <Eric> Yes, I have a co-worker about 20 minutes from the fires....says it's horrible
10:21:11 <ynpvisitor9> over 1000 homes and 8 dead in the Carr fire near Redding
10:21:21 <ynpvisitor9> homes gone
10:21:54 <ynpvisitor9> that fire sounds like a whole different beast
10:22:24 <Kevin L™> Redding fire was arson to boot.
10:22:51 <ynpvisitor9> seriously? Like Greece? That is just terrible
10:26:10 <Dave from B™> I do not understand all the evil in the world
10:26:50 <ynpvisitor999®> SC ie
10:28:19 <Kevin L™> Oops, Carr fire was not arson, it was the Cranston fire.
10:28:30 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
10:30:10 <Kevin L™> Yellowstone 88 looked like those Yosemite pics. The smoke would set off fire alarms in the cabins.
10:31:22 <Tech Pan 25> Fire is natural, but not like this - too much interference from humans
10:42:04 <ynpvisitor9> glad to hear Carr fire was not arson or that person would have murder charges pending
10:44:33 <Kevin L™> Just one is too many arson fires.
10:47:47 <IamGeneralMills> Rain at Gardiner. Life is just not fair!!!:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
10:49:11 <Dave from B™> IGM are you the person formerly known as 603?
10:49:59 <IamGeneralMills> No. ...™
10:50:20 <Dave from B™> hahaha
11:00:38 <Dave from B™> Kevin, looks like Baseball commissioner has your city on a list of 6 mentioned when expansion occurs
11:01:29 <Kevin L™> Funny what a hockey team can do.
11:05:39 <Dave from B™> Kevin, was there ever a Salt Lake fish Company....thanks for the email
11:07:07 <IamGeneralMills> I would rather you be on the NFL's short list.
11:07:46 <Kevin L™> I think that one is a fantasy car Dave, but I like it.
11:08:51 <Stephen G.> I know Vegas is going to get the Raiders from Oakland in a couple of years.
11:09:09 <IamGeneralMills> :thumbsup:
11:13:33 <Dave from B™> Don't get Kevin started on that:)
11:14:22 <Kevin L™> Would you like them?
11:14:44 <Kevin L™> We need the Posse back.
11:15:14 <Stephen G.> I don't think anybody would like the Raiders besides Oakland
11:15:35 <Kevin L™> Wish they would have kept them.
11:16:25 <Kevin L™> We do have 2 Nascar weekends now.
11:16:39 <Dave from B™> They should ship them to Mexico City or London
11:16:59 <Kevin L™> Mexico City would be good for the Raiders.
11:17:48 <Kevin L™> What we really need is a curling team.
11:21:22 <Dave from B™> Why, because sleeping pills are illegal in NV?:D
11:22:46 <Stephen G.> Some nice bursts out of Castle there
11:29:52 <Kevin L™> We use soccer for that Dave.
11:31:52 <Dave from B™> Touche:)
11:32:04 <Dave from B™> Grand?
11:32:28 <Dave from B™> wow...that was a fast 6 hours
11:34:28 <Dave from B™> So, SB cycle theorists are going to say we are at the bottom of the cycle now?
11:35:57 <Stephen G.> It appears that way. Given Udo was basically watching six hours (or longer) of what seemed to be great minor play, it seemed to drain the system, and like Jim mentioned, set it back a few days.
11:39:45 <Stephen G.> Given it's history of it's active phases lasting at least a couple of years, I don't think this active phase is over, but the disturbance clearly knocked Steamboat out of its pre-disturbance activity.
11:41:04 <Dave from B™> Yep. I do feel 5-10 day sits or longer will be the norm if you want to catch it. I'm not sure I have that in me
11:43:53 <Dave from B™> 2 but me into a depression for 24-48 hours
11:45:05 <Dave from B™> put*
11:46:31 <Stephen G.> I agree. Knowing what disturbances do to Steamboat, I think these long erratic, intervals are what it will be doing for now. Catching SB is going to be a lot more luck-based now, even moreso than when it was fairy regular.
11:47:06 <Stephen G.> And I could see that Dave; those waits do get pretty long there, especially when you don't even know if you'll get anything.
11:47:25 <Dave from B™> And, now I regret leaving after my 2 day sit on June 2 and 3 even more....@#$%@#$^ work
11:50:18 <Stephen G.> Darn; that sucks :( It is always tough to miss a geyser like that after waiting on it for so long.
11:50:45 <ynpvisitor2> according to the T2 SB article 10 day sits were common enough.
11:50:59 <ynpvisitor2> in the 80's
11:52:07 <Stephen G.> I believe it. I guess this new active phase with that relatively narrow eruption window (especially for SB) spoiled us for May/early June.
11:54:05 <Stephen G.> From Jim's note, I see Steamboat wasn't impressive to him today either.
11:58:23 <ynpvisitor31> The fact that it pulled predictable (ish) interval early in the year is the more unusual thing to me
11:58:42 <ynpvisitor31> Even during the active years it seemed pretty random
12:01:32 <ynpvisitor2> most time as super regular as this year was June 15 thru Sept 29 64 then things got longer and irregular. Was there a disturbance. Not known or sure.
12:06:48 <ynpvisitor2> After the 83 disturbance the recovery time increased heavy minor play (up to 80 feet) and heavy overflow extended to several weeks
12:08:25 <ynpvisitor2> my bet is its not going to be waitable for a good while. maybe not decades but possibly months. even "good" minor play doesn't seem to indicate an impending eruption
12:08:27 <Stephen G.> 2, that sounds like what was being seen earlier this week at Steambaot.
12:09:23 <ynpvisitor2> SB might make F&M seem to be a friendly geyser.;)
12:11:11 <Stephen G.> No kidding! Especially after this fast-fill by Cistern, with a lot of people waiting up there 5+ days.
12:32:45 <Eric> Anyone here know anything about this weird NG article?
12:33:01 <Eric> A quote from the article "A trove of these geologic oddities lay scattered in the colorful thermal pools surrounding Yellowstone's Old Faithful geyser"
12:33:23 <Eric> Does OF have "colorful thermal pools" surrounding it?
12:34:18 <ynpvisitor5> Steamboat in perspective, since recorded it has erupted 180 times in 140 years that is an average of 283 days between eruptions, if you subtract the 50 year span it refused to erupt that is an average of 182 days between eruptions, so this years intervals are not so bad as it seems.
12:35:05 <Dave from B™> haha, 5.
12:35:52 <Dave from B™> I would rather hear average intervals during active phases...probably somewhere between 20-50 days
12:36:20 <Dave from B™> So, I'm going to ask my boss for 6 weeks vacation in a row
12:36:35 <Dave from B™> And, tell him I might be back in 3 weeks
12:37:56 <Jake> thanks, Eric. incredible photo of OF eggs that I have not seen
12:38:20 <Jake> I have not seen them, but it appears that OF does have extensive catchbasins:,-110.8282079,38m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5351ed1c78b0412d:0xdaa08917bf693ec9!8m2!3d44.4604724!4d-110.8281308
12:38:42 <Jake> there's significant terracing on the N side of OF that I've only seen from the roof of the Inn
12:38:54 <ynpvisitor5> Good idea also stock a cargo trailer with food and water and you will be good to go, but SB will erupt the very time you are digging through the trailer for a meal :)
12:40:04 <Jake> there are several geysers that have geyser eggs, one of which got famous in the early days of the park and then it didn't have any eggs anymore
12:40:10 <Dave from B™> I'm telling you...Larry's Lunch Station needs to come back. Anyone have Larry's phone number?
12:40:35 <Dave from B™> Geyser that what is in Aurum's catchpool?
12:41:05 <ynpvisitor5> Jake, I take it you took the flags tour did you get some good pictures looktng down basin? I've always wanted to do that.
12:41:08 <Jake> yes, some are more egg like than others
12:41:09 <Betty> I think so
12:41:45 <Jake> Aurum's look like sucked on jolly ranchers or something
12:42:18 <Dave from B™> You'd look shriveled up too if you were covered up in water all day
12:42:18 <Jake> yes, I was on top of the Inn at flag time, took lots of pictures. OF was the most impressive insight for me
12:42:53 <Dave from B™> How long do you get to stay during flag "ceremonies"?
12:43:11 <ynpvisitor5> I am envious, I would love to do that tour.
12:43:18 <Eric> I would have expected any smooth,nice rocks would have been pilfered many years ago by tourists walking up to the cone.
12:43:47 <Jake> it's up to the bellhop, we were up there a long time according to my friend that worked at the Inn, maybe 40 minutes
12:44:46 <Dave from B™> Isn't it MG's brother that is charge on tours?
12:45:44 <ynpvisitor25> Odd that the YNR seismo picked up a steady increased trace at 1316 but YNM did not. What could that be?
12:46:06 <Dave from B™> Where is the YNR located?
12:46:19 <ynpvisitor5> Jake , if you can, when you get time could you post one or two of your photos from the top?
12:46:42 <ynpvisitor2> same thing happened yesterday. someone here said it was a read error
12:47:12 <ynpvisitor25> At the Norris Museum of the NPS Ranger. It's closer to the road so it picks up road traffic more than YNM.
12:47:14 <Dave from B™> There are 2 projects going on in the Norris area
12:48:42 <ynpvisitor25> YNR also picks up SB eruptions.
12:51:58 <Eric> backhoe up on must have started for the communications updates
12:59:15 <Jake> 5, I'll try
13:03:54 <Kevin L™> Slime :P
13:04:39 <Betty> you need back the defense mode
13:05:05 <Kevin L™> Have you cooled down Betty?
13:05:16 <Betty> yes :-)
13:06:17 <Betty> we have some light rain atm, but predictions for the weekend will hit 100 again :-)
13:06:46 <Betty> will be more fun with humidity
13:06:54 <Kevin L™> It is 114° here right now. Too hot to do outside work.
13:07:09 <Betty> work?
13:08:28 <Kevin L™> Mow grass, clean chicken coops, trim weeds, clean garage...
13:09:43 <Kevin L™> Odd pattern on Norris seismo.
13:11:00 <Stephen G.> That is an odd pattern. A small earthquake maybe? It looks like it's back to normal on the 3 PM line so far.
13:11:59 <Stephen G.> It definitely isn't the "traditional" Steamboat signature on the seismo.
13:12:54 <Kevin L™> This is Norris Junction:
13:13:21 <Betty> oha
13:14:16 <Kevin L™> And just se of Norris:
13:15:14 <Betty> strange. any ideas?
13:15:28 <Kevin L™> Upper Falls is flat.
13:16:14 <Kevin L™> Madison River is just normal bumps.
13:16:27 <Kevin L™> It has to be something at Norris.
13:16:31 <Silicon Valley> Road work?
13:17:30 <Tech Pan 25> Could be a very noisy diesel generator or idling equipment?
13:17:31 <Kevin L™> Roadwork would not have the consistent lines the last two I posted do.
13:20:18 <Stephen G.> You'd think roadwork would've started a bit earlier as well. That's far too long to be an earthquake.
13:20:20 <Dave from B™> They are building a new trail from 4 way junction area to parking lot for overflow pkg along main loop road
13:20:51 <Stephen G.> Seems to be a lot more red lines on the Norris seismo today in general.
13:26:10 <Jake> Daisy ie
13:26:14 <Kevin L™> Daisy
13:27:11 <Kevin L™> Last post from SB was 1231
13:34:40 <Stephen G.> Small earthquakes at Norris maybe? Norris looks different than the other two.
13:34:46 <Betty> time for sleep, night all
13:35:27 <Dave from B™> No EQ's in the area
13:35:37 <Dave from B™> Hi Graham
13:36:03 <GO GIANT> hello .... its about time Giant erupted
13:36:15 <Stephen G.> Hi Graham; night Betty
13:36:18 <Dave from B™> Nite Betty
13:41:29 <Dave from B™> Time for me to head out. Have a great evening everyone!
13:42:44 <GO GIANT> bye Dave ... are you packed for the next dash?
13:43:06 <Kevin L™> Night Dave
13:43:08 <Stephen G.> Same to you, Dave
13:58:42 <Kevin L™> Well by 1500 Steamboat hit 7 on the Micah scale twice.
14:00:13 <Stephen G.> Yeah; if that was Steamboat; it did something different this afternoon
14:00:54 <Stephen G.> Wonder if it was Steamboat; definitely a very odd pattern for the seismo if it was.
14:02:34 <GO GIANT> so Steamoat erupting is 100 on that scale?
14:02:54 <GO GIANT> good to hear its a bit beter than yesteday but Jim didnt sound excited
14:16:06 <GO GIANT> looks like the next big GHP is after ark
14:47:30 <Kevin L™> Norris Jct seismo started up again:
14:48:47 <GO GIANT> is thata 2b STeamboat on it?
14:49:13 <Kevin L™> Looks like it.
15:14:20 <Kevin L™> The really strange thing is this bump is not affecting the Norris seismo.
15:23:30 <GO GIANT> looks like its on a shake table
15:50:53 <ynpvisitor106> daisy ie
16:25:56 <Kevin L™> Big BH Splashes
17:18:51 <ynpvisitor6> Grand doing a better job than Fluffy
17:23:30 <ynpvisitor6> 134° may be questionable. Doesn't say why.
17:23:38 <ynpvisitor6>
17:24:54 <GO GIANT> late 2nd
18:34:02 <GO GIANT> i am done ... GO GIANT!
18:34:09 <GO GIANT> goodnight
18:52:16 <ynpvisitor36> Pink OF
19:04:26 <Kevin L™> Nice Sunset