Showing logs for date: 2018-09-02
22:12:32 <ynpvisitor63> Steamboat at 23:21 on YNM seismo
22:29:34 <ynpvisitor15> Looks like a strong one too
23:05:31 <ynpvisitor63> Strong signal on YNR seismo on this SB too.
03:20:09 <ynpvisitor99> HI DG, steamboat last night
03:20:48 <ynpvisitor99> 2321
03:20:53 <ynpvisitor999®> yes, didn't really surprise me, though I did think it would wait until today or tomorrow
03:25:23 <ynpvisitor999®> so, looks like the party will move to F&M now
04:13:51 <GO F&M> I see my GO SOMETHING nick worked yesterday
04:14:18 <ynpvisitor999®> :)
04:14:24 <GO F&M> guess I should have told SB to wit. Very fast recovery again at SB, glad Carol and Bill were there
04:14:29 <ynpvisitor99> yep, SB responded!
04:14:45 <GO F&M> so its 17 16 14 1 now F&M SB Giant Morning
04:14:57 <GO F&M> SB is making a race of it again
04:16:17 <ynpvisitor999®> I think Cistern refill rate determined these 5d intervals, whereas with the long intervals it didn't
04:16:49 <GO F&M> yeah, both had empty Cistern that filled in 1 day
04:17:22 <ynpvisitor56> so it does but it doesn't. :)
04:18:59 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if the SB/Cistern complex functions in a way that when Cistern has power, it shortens the interval, yet when SB has it, it lengthens the interval instead
04:19:41 <GO F&M> lets see, we only have two data points since the jump. if we get a slower refill it will be interesting to see the pattern. Of course I am fine with it staying with 5d intervals
04:19:47 <ynpvisitorCC> Morning everyone
04:20:16 <GO F&M> morning CC, busy day yesterday
04:20:40 <ynpvisitorCC> Yes..happy for the gazers
04:20:45 <ynpvisitor999®> morning CC, Graham, Joe, others
04:20:47 <GO F&M> glad that Carol and Bill stayed to see SB, the activity was good yesterday which kept them out at night
04:20:47 <ynpvisitorCC> Graham can I call you
04:24:13 <ynpvisitor99> I am at a loss, who is the 1 eruption on the chart?
04:28:05 <GO F&M> Morning
04:34:55 <GO F&M> Ftn is still having ~8h intervals I think, so there could be more Morning eruptions, who knows
04:35:43 <ynpvisitor99> Ah Morning, thanks
04:40:23 <GO F&M> at least F&M waited till daylight, lets hope it erupts todauy
05:05:07 <Betty> morning geyser gazer fellows
05:05:24 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Betty
05:05:34 <Betty> afternoon DG
05:05:47 <ynpvisitorCC> Hi Betty
05:06:03 <ynpvisitor108> Morning Betty
05:06:09 <Betty> seems it was a great afternoon/evening yesterday :-)
05:06:21 <Betty> hi CC and 108
05:07:04 <ynpvisitor999®> it was
05:07:12 <GO F&M> you left a few minutes too early Betty
05:07:30 <Betty> hey, true :-(
05:07:36 <GO F&M> is there a video of it over the ridge?
05:07:53 <Betty> but I´m glad it went for you :-D
05:09:24 <ynpvisitor999®> https://youtu.be/4JWQkhTJ3-o?t=10397
05:09:41 <ynpvisitor999®> that's just before water over the ridge
05:10:02 <Betty> thx DG
05:10:34 <ynpvisitor999®> and you can clearly see it at the 2:53:23 mark
05:13:21 <Betty> seems the bw is icy
05:20:24 <Betty> Depression ie?
05:39:16 <Betty> we just missed Aurum
05:39:50 <ynpvisitor999®> how surprising
05:40:12 <Betty> :-)
05:58:05 <ynpvisitor999®> SC soon
06:26:00 <Betty> OF
06:26:17 <Betty> great light
06:26:54 <ynpvisitor109> Nice viewing for 0830
06:27:09 <ynpvisitor109> Low humidity
06:27:24 <Betty> yep
06:27:28 <ynpvisitor109> Gazers must be waiting at BH
07:23:01 <Betty> indy
07:23:02 <Betty> .
07:23:03 <Betty> .
07:23:04 <Betty> .
07:23:06 <Betty> .
07:24:22 <Betty> text is sent
07:24:56 <Kevin L™> Wow. Timing is everything
07:25:03 <Betty> morning Kevin
07:25:42 <Betty> we are in Gand window too, maybe a dual
07:26:07 <Betty> there´s Kitt
07:28:37 <ynpvisitorCC> That is quite acrowd coming to BH
07:28:42 <Betty> Grand sounds better than Gand
07:30:36 <Kevin L™> It would be fun if F&M went this morning. The big 3 within a 24 hour period
07:30:38 <Betty> LC
07:31:03 <Betty> Daisy per Jim
07:31:13 <Betty> no, by Emily
07:31:41 <Betty> BH
07:32:25 <Betty> fuzzball
07:41:23 <Betty> Riverside
07:42:09 <Betty> SC ie
07:44:41 <Kevin L™> Atomic Grand.
07:44:47 <ynpvisitorCC> Grand
07:45:29 <ynpvisitorCC> Betty I just you a PM
07:57:31 <ynpvisitorCC> have a good day everyone
07:57:39 <Kevin L™> Bye cc
07:57:47 <Betty> bye CC
08:00:15 <Betty> time to head out too
08:00:20 <Betty> bye all
08:00:32 <Kevin L™> Night Betty
08:00:45 <GO F&M> is it time for F&M now?
08:01:35 <Kevin L™> Well if it does go you will need to change your name to GO MORNING or GO AURUM.
08:01:56 <GO F&M> its also Oblong day ....
08:03:42 <Michael> F&M will go while I'm mowing the lawn. Most likely pretty soon.
08:17:15 <GO F&M> well it is rather underwhelming on the cam....unlike Giant where we saw the spikes
08:17:58 <Kevin L™> That was pretty fun watching that water over the trees.
08:18:10 <GO F&M> DG posted it at 0709 if you have not seen it, looks nice with full screen for a few spikes
08:19:16 <Kevin L™> I watched that. Not as fun as the live version yesterday but still fun.
08:19:56 <GO F&M> yeah, I wanted to see what I had seen live since I was moving the cam and typing Giant in chat and dinging
08:20:38 <GO F&M> good job OF wasnt a few minutes later or we would have missed it, Mastiff started during the tail end of OF eruption
08:20:59 <GO F&M> that was when the cam was close in on OF
08:21:29 <Kevin L™> Some days you just luckk out. Now we need another moose.
08:22:05 <GO F&M> haha yeah.
08:23:00 <GO F&M> preferably one hanging out in the meadow for a while rather than sprinting across and into the Giant trees
08:24:31 <ynpvisitor999®> oh hi bison. Hope you're enjoying your seconds of fame
08:27:25 <Kevin L™> Just looked up and thought I saw a politician!
08:37:51 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Dave
08:38:13 <Michael> Hi Dave.
08:38:30 <Kevin L™> You missed it Dave
08:38:42 <Dave from B™> Morning Michael
08:39:05 <Michael> Nice relaxing day. Can't miss Giant and Steamboat any more than I missed them yesterday.
08:39:05 <Dave from B™> I missed SB. I need to figure out how many times it has gone on poker night
08:39:48 <Kevin L™> Do the rangers let you play poker at SB?
08:40:18 <Dave from B™> haha
08:40:42 <Michael> If I understand GT notations, CB's notes didn't go public until they got home post-eruption.
08:42:39 <Michael> I'm imagining how dangerous it would if everyone learned about the minor activity halfway through wine-and-cheese.
08:43:35 <Michael> Are there designated drivers for that kind of geyser emergency?
08:43:46 <Kevin L™> I don't I don't think they have service at the geyser itself. They do have it at the campground.
08:44:43 <Dave from B™> Party is usually over by 2130, isn't it?
08:45:53 <ynpvisitor56> they don't have service - they have to drive up the road towards Canyon
09:07:46 <ynpvisitor999®> hk recorded the start of Giant
09:08:25 <Michael> I'm looking forward to when he gets home and posts it.
09:09:11 <ynpvisitor999®> he did need to put his cameras in pockets to protect them from the water
09:09:22 <GO F&M> not many photos posted on FB from Giant, surprising given how good it was
09:09:26 <Michael> Interesting remarks about the height of the eruption.
09:10:04 <GO F&M> ok, got to go read the HK post :)
09:11:18 <Kevin L™> Nice to have someone like HK who gives such great details.
09:12:08 <Michael> We know the start was bigger than average, based on the spikes the webcam saw. Too bad we don't have the treeline calibrated.
09:12:18 <ynpvisitor999®> haha
09:12:52 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe we should ask someone to measure the treeline for us
09:14:02 <Kevin L™> They used a tree to judge the height of OF once if I remember. Someone noticed that the height of OF was going down.
09:14:20 <Michael> I guess the best way would be to calibrate with the rockface on the caldera rim, since that should show up in a topo map.
09:15:39 <Dave from B™> yep...trees grow, even at OF
09:16:28 <Dave from B™> Time for me to head home. Last quiet Sunday (without NFL) until next year. Have a great day everyone!
09:17:07 <ynpvisitor999®> I've seen an NPS video on how they predict OF (I think it was from 2014?). To measure the height, they used a tree, while it would be much smarter to have some measurements on the glass instead...
09:17:22 <Michael> See you Dave.
09:17:55 <Kevin L™> What is the nfl? Bye Dave.
09:18:13 <ynpvisitor999®> F&M event cycle 1001, no F&M
09:18:19 <ynpvisitor101> Measurements on the glass would only work if everyone was the same height.
09:18:21 <Michael> The old VC had tape markings on the glass, too. I think Sam Martinez put them up there.
09:18:24 <GO F&M> from the video the top spikes were in the first minute, HK would have missed them based on his timeline. I dont think there were any spikes after that
09:18:24 <Kevin L™> :(
09:19:44 <ynpvisitor101> The tree being farther away, difference in how tall the person is would not mater as much.
09:19:44 <ynpvisitor999®> OF
09:20:37 <Michael> Unlike the Steamboat-height argument, we all seem to agree that the Giant start was huge even nobody has a specific number to pin on it.
09:21:11 <ynpvisitor101> If they could force a image capture on the static cam, it could be used to measure height.
09:22:09 <ynpvisitor101> And it would not be hard to measure the tree every year.
09:59:12 <ynpvisitor999®> Lio nini
09:59:25 <Michael> Lion
10:00:17 <ynpvisitor56> Lionini! A new pasta?
10:10:18 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
10:14:05 <Michael> Based on inaccurate Google-map terrain surveying, I'd guess Giant has to be about 210 feet to reach the top of the cliff face.
10:14:46 <Michael> Camera elevation might be 7375 ft, and Giant's vent around 7325ft, so it's 50 feet to get up to level.
10:15:56 <Michael> The cliff top is near 7850 ft (480 ft above the camera) and Giant is close to 1/3 of the distance away, so 480/3 would be 160 feet above level.
10:16:40 <GO F&M> GRAND DOESNT REACH THE TOP THO
10:16:40 <Michael> [All figures are approximate at best.]
10:16:44 <GO F&M> sorry
10:19:33 <Michael> Grand reaching the top of the cliff might be about 160ft? It's closer to the camera and starts about 20ft higher up.
10:20:29 <Michael> Someone with a topo map should figure this out correctly...
10:20:29 <GO F&M> yeah but I have never seen it get that high
10:21:22 <ynpvisitor56> earlier this year at Steamboat someone had a height measurement app on their phone
10:22:02 <ynpvisitor56> you just need to know the distance from the vent to where you are.
10:24:47 <ynpvisitor56> distance to vent could be measurable on google earth
10:25:14 <GO F&M> what height did hey come up with? I read Ryans analysis of his photo
10:26:05 <Kevin L™> Some geysers have surveyed markers with a distance on the BW.
10:26:26 <ynpvisitor56> is there still a baseline marker on the boardwalk?
10:27:00 <Kevin L™> According to HK there is.
10:28:12 <GO F&M> some geysers have them, washers screwed into the baardwalk or asphalt
10:28:50 <GO F&M> GT shows some of the baseline info on the web site, click on the geyser and baseline link is on the right
10:29:20 <ynpvisitor56> so someone would need to retain their sanity and go to that spot. :)
10:29:34 <GO F&M> three listed for Giant
10:30:10 <GO F&M> yeah, would need to be there at the strt with a measuring device and the wind blowing in the right direction t oee the top of the spikes
10:30:40 <ynpvisitor999®> kinda surprised the eruption lasted 1h15m. Thought it would be shorter due to north/Mastiff function
10:30:41 <ynpvisitor56> ... and not screaming
10:31:16 <GO F&M> screaming is ok as long as you dont forget the angle numbers
10:31:33 <ynpvisitor56> lol
10:36:35 <Michael> I should ask GRB to figure out the survey the Giant and Grand camera sightlines, if he hasn't already done it.
10:36:49 <Michael> Hopefully he gets a better/bigger number than I did.
10:48:37 <ynpvisitor999®> it's been 1½h already?
10:53:17 <Michael> Lawnmowing time. Enjoy F&M.
11:21:38 <ynpvisitor31> Impressive number of cars at the west gate for 1:20 in the afternoon
11:22:20 <ynpvisitor999®> probably the labor day crowd
11:22:32 <ynpvisitor999®> or they want to see SB in steam phase, or both
11:25:58 <ynpvisitor56> maybe they went out for lunch and are coming back?
11:26:26 <ynpvisitor999®> fair point, but I doubt this many
11:27:12 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
11:47:05 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
11:55:59 <Betty> hi again
11:56:31 <ynpvisitor999®> hi Betty
11:56:49 <Betty> hi again DG
12:08:43 <ynpvisitor84> There is a huge jam on the West Entrance road due to one bison. They were turning people around at the gate for awhile. Too bad they can’t just have someone work the jam.
12:09:10 <ynpvisitor84> Looks like the gate is calming now.
12:10:59 <Betty> bison jams are crazy
12:33:10 <Betty> LC
12:49:15 <ynpvisitor52> Daisy
12:55:38 <ynpvisitor13> Another Steamboat at 23:00 last night?
12:55:47 <ynpvisitor999®> yes
12:55:59 <ynpvisitor13> Wow, that's a short interval.
12:56:19 <GO F&M> similar to the one before tho
12:56:39 <ynpvisitor13> I was thinking we were settling into a two-week schedule.
12:57:07 <ynpvisitor999®> I think SB and/or Cistern has/have other plans
12:57:16 <GO F&M> that seems to have changed with the full Cistern drains and very rapid refills
12:57:35 <ynpvisitor13> I shouldn't complain... I'll be there in about a month and this gives a better (though still slim) chance of seeing it.
12:58:05 <GO F&M> you think this will last a month? haha
12:58:12 <ynpvisitor91> heres to hoping it continues those :thumbsup:
12:58:53 <ynpvisitor999®> I hope it manages to settle down at a 5d interval
12:59:29 <GO F&M> maye i can see the third one from now
12:59:38 <GO F&M> and 4th and 5th
12:59:48 <ynpvisitor13> A tip of the hat to the folks that were there to see it. I bet that's a cold and lonely vigil at night.
13:00:38 <GO F&M> and Carol saw Giant as well, so she saw both
13:01:50 <GO F&M> at least it was bebfore midnight
13:01:58 <ynpvisitor13> Can't ask for a better gazer-day than that.
13:04:02 <ynpvisitor91> no kidding. when morning went the other week i was hoping for an active period there too. that would have been nuts
13:17:52 <ynpvisitor999®> give way to the bison
13:18:39 <ynpvisitor999®> doesn't look too happy
13:18:50 <ynpvisitor91> tourists days made
13:18:59 <ynpvisitor999®> I bet
13:20:22 <ynpvisitor13> he's a split cone fan?
13:21:57 <ynpvisitor999®> I hope so :D
13:25:38 <ynpvisitor999®> we're 15 notes away from 10000!
13:31:53 <ynpvisitor91> ya think grand will keep in its crazy narrow window it had the last two days?
13:32:25 <ynpvisitor999®> I doubt it on this one, because Rift just started
13:33:04 <GO F&M> last 5 have been over 6h so its lengthened a little
13:33:08 <ynpvisitor999®> but overall, I think it will for the upcoming days
13:37:00 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
13:38:40 <GO F&M> looks just like Giant
13:43:54 <ynpvisitor999®> Castle
13:47:44 <ynpvisitor999®> Grad
13:47:45 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand
13:48:28 <ynpvisitor999®> possible quadfecta in the making, with one we can't see
13:57:11 <Betty> 2nd
13:57:21 <Betty> tall one
13:59:47 <Betty> OF
13:59:58 <ynpvisitor999®> so, no quadfecta then :(
14:00:14 <ynpvisitor999®> nice static
14:05:21 <Betty> did we miss Riverside? NPS prediction just jumped to the end of the table
14:06:26 <ynpvisitor999®> we probably have then :)
14:06:32 <Betty> time for sleep, night all
14:06:35 <GO F&M> must have been in park time but not entered. nobody entered Frand either
14:06:52 <GO F&M> night Betty
14:07:00 <ynpvisitor999®> night Betty
14:08:21 <ynpvisitor999®> T2Q | 10m04s per hk
14:10:13 <ynpvisitor999®> Riverside 1558
14:48:07 <ynpvisitor39> This is so not exciting. Daisy and a Fluffy or two before dark. GO LION
15:00:27 <GO F&M> Lon just finished a series of two
15:18:03 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
15:19:34 <GO F&M> theres Daisy
15:37:59 <GO F&M> SC
15:43:36 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm calling it a day. Have fun watching SC, Aurum and the treeline.
15:43:56 <GO F&M> night DG, have a fun day tomorrow
16:33:55 <GO F&M> ongoing event cycle
16:55:29 <ynpvisitor39> 1854
17:13:57 <GO F&M> No F&M
17:19:11 <GO F&M> LC
17:48:13 <GO F&M> odd position for the cam
17:48:24 <GO F&M> cutting down on glare?
17:48:40 <GO F&M> daisy
18:10:05 <ynpvisitor105> Looks like F&M is not going to cooperate.
18:14:47 <ynpvisitor105> Lion
20:00:53 <ynpvisitor20> Uncle Tom’s Point and parts of South Rim Trail, is expected to reopen later this fall.