Showing logs for date: 2018-09-23
01:39:10 <Kent> North Goggles good news. Thanks Joe
01:42:15 <ynpvisitor999®> NG
01:42:57 <ynpvisitor999®> so, it seems NG got a head start to Lion. Let's see what happens next
02:03:14 <ynpvisitor999®> NG
02:45:54 <ynpvisitor999®> OF 0445
04:32:34 <ynpvisitor999®> NG
04:53:51 <ynpvisitor8> NG
04:55:13 <ynpvisitor8> Hi CC, Joe here
04:55:36 <ynpvisitorCC> Morning Joe and others
04:55:40 <ynpvisitor999®> morning all
04:55:57 <ynpvisitorCC> It is going to be a quiet morning
04:56:47 <ynpvisitor8> yes, except for NG but very quiet otherwise
04:57:55 <ynpvisitorCC> I am going to have a new Cam operator practice moving the cam shortly
04:58:08 <ynpvisitor8> nice
05:03:21 <ynpvisitor8> Great to see Congress Pool in Norris erupt after 44 years
05:03:44 <ynpvisitorCC> Didn't see that
05:04:14 <ynpvisitorCC> It is crazy what is going on this year
05:04:25 <ynpvisitor8> yesterday 1410
05:21:33 <ynpvisitor14> Moving the barricade was a good thing. Opened up a lot of territory
05:32:07 <ynpvisitor8> NG ie
05:32:22 <ynpvisitorCC> yes
05:51:01 <ynpvisitor999®> Dome
05:55:26 <ynpvisitor999®> *waves back*
05:55:35 <ynpvisitor999®> Au7rum
05:55:36 <ynpvisitor999®> .
05:55:36 <ynpvisitor999®> .
05:55:37 <ynpvisitor999®> .
05:57:13 <ynpvisitor999®> well, that's another Aurum alias I can add to my list
05:59:00 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy'
06:19:08 <Eric> Morniing
06:19:21 <Eric> So does congress pool eruption signal a disturbance?
06:22:15 <Eric> I wonder if Betty got Giant last night
06:34:41 <ynpvisitor14> This has been some year. Rates its own volume of "Transactions?" :)
06:37:56 <ynpvisitor40> Eric, Betty stays in West. I am sure she did not get Giant.
06:38:37 <ynpvisitor40> She was on chat from her hotel room before 2200.
06:39:11 <ynpvisitor40> Maybe she will fare better with SB
06:39:56 <ynpvisitor40> And maybe she’ll get another Giant chance before leaving
06:44:36 <Eric> Bummer :-(
06:45:01 <Eric> Thanks 40, I totally forgot she stayed in West.
06:46:23 <Eric> I am kinda surprised graham wasn't out there at Giant
06:48:16 <ynpvisitor8> Eric your suggestions and ffmpeg 3.4 have made recording and play back very nice, thanks
07:05:12 <ynpvisitor77> grand
08:08:59 <ynpvisitor999®> anything from NG while I was away?
08:10:54 <ynpvisitor999®> oh hi bison
08:20:53 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
08:37:33 <ynpvisitor86> Old SB intervals make NO difference to the present reality
08:38:11 <ynpvisitor86> The recovery is slower, only time will tell what happens next.
08:40:42 <ynpvisitor86> At least there is a moon for the hearty gazers that might stay tonight
09:00:07 <ynpvisitor112> Well is Betty here yet? She was saying SB would be at 10.
09:08:40 <ynpvisitor999®> HK has put up his video of the September 17 SB
09:12:47 <ynpvisitor2> Betty is at SB I imagine. She was hoping for SB by 10, then Giant. Both those plans are not happening now.
09:14:22 <Time for BH> She did miss Giant by half a day. And she could be watching a 4 burst SB lasting over an hour.
09:25:56 <Time for BH> You could own a Bison.
09:27:04 <ynpvisitor35> I like it in this form better:
09:27:52 <Time for BH> With a few of the first, you could have an endless supply of the second.
09:29:53 <ynpvisitor35> Interesting how the flashlight at BH took off when Giant went.
09:32:29 <ynpvisitor99> wouldn't you take off, especially with the bw back open?
09:32:58 <Time for BH> And leave BH?
09:33:06 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't want to get your hopes up, but YNM looks suspicious, even though the signature is almost certainly background noise.
09:33:14 <ynpvisitor99> Betty could also be watching a bunch of SB minors all day...
09:33:20 <ynpvisitor99> background noise
09:33:43 <ynpvisitor99> 999 you know better than that...
09:34:53 <ynpvisitor999®> true, but that signature of the 27 August SB was very, very small. I regarded it as background noise too, until a note came in saying SB was in steam phase
09:37:20 <ynpvisitor999®> anyway, I hope we can see SB on YNM, unlike the last one
09:38:06 <ynpvisitor35> We did see it, we just didn't know what we were looking at!
09:39:22 <Time for BH> No onw will know what they are looking at if they move the camera.
09:40:15 <ynpvisitor999®> Infant's 2 cm/0.8 inch below overflow, by the way
09:40:58 <ynpvisitor35> Sounds smelly
09:52:38 <Time for BH> lion, ie
10:07:14 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
10:10:47 <ynpvisitor999®> Pump above cone
10:11:03 <ynpvisitor999®> or above boardwalk, rather
10:14:54 <ynpvisitor999®> typical... the Infant note is gone
10:15:30 <ynpvisitor999®> at least it's still in the note section of Infant's page
10:26:49 <ynpvisitor999®> Dome ie static
10:34:13 <ynpvisitor2> Bob in SLC must have given up on SB
10:35:11 <Kent> It stopped. I'm going with 1234 wc
10:37:36 <Kent> DG, was there an Infant note newer than Sept 16th?
10:39:28 <ynpvisitor999®> looks Siegmund entered the wrong date
10:40:22 <Kent> OK Thanks
11:02:33 <ynpvisitor999®> Indy
11:02:34 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:02:35 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:02:36 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:02:37 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:02:38 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:06:02 <ynpvisitor2> Quite a group of people with no gazers about
11:07:12 <Time for BH> Big indy
11:07:30 <Time for BH> Oh, wait, that is Lion. Poor Lion, gets no respect.
11:09:18 <Nynpvisitor111> Rodney Lion?
11:09:36 <Time for BH> Lion Danger Field.
11:10:46 <Time for BH> It was a danger field for at least a few days last week.
11:11:17 <Nynpvisitor111> Good point
11:15:32 <Time for BH> Not a lot of joiners. No Text?
11:16:14 <Nynpvisitor111> I got a text
11:16:23 <Time for BH> good
11:16:36 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
11:16:49 <Time for BH> waiting, waiting, waiting
11:17:18 <Time for BH> weeeeee
11:21:46 <ynpvisitor999®> that was fun
11:21:54 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy ie
11:23:19 <ynpvisitor107> Please remove the Lion minor report. A splash that only gets a few inches above the cone is not an eruption.
11:26:51 <ynpvisitor999®> I disagree on that part, as I've noticed that even the smallest minor (or, in this case, 'splash') has an effect on the interval if it wasn't considered an 'eruption'
11:29:07 <ynpvisitor107> But that is not the way we record Lion eruptions. If you want to change how we do it, then get a consensus from the rest of teh geyser gazers . There are decades of data that do not count splashes. No one gets to make a change in notation by themselves.
11:37:47 <ynpvisitor999®> Aur7um
11:37:48 <ynpvisitor999®> ,
11:37:49 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:37:50 <ynpvisitor999®> .
11:42:26 <Time for BH> Science observations are subjective.
11:43:50 <ynpvisitor107> When multiple people are making the observations there must be a common definitions of what is being observed or the data becomes meaningless.
11:44:34 <Time for BH> Make a note or flag it.
11:45:33 <ynpvisitor107> Definitions can be modified, new categories added or removed, but all observers need to know the changes have been made. On GT a note is a good place to put information that does not fit the current definitions.
11:49:31 <ynpvisitor999®> converted to note
11:49:35 <Time for BH> I looked on GT and did not see a definition of a Lion Minor. Did I miss it?
11:51:50 <ynpvisitor999®> there's no real definite definition of 'minor' for every geyser, as every geyser has its own form of minor eruption. Describing every minor/major/intermediate eruption here on GT would be difficult, if not impossible, to do
11:52:37 <ynpvisitor999®> (I have to note there are quite some geysers which don't have a major/minor/intermediate eruption style, too)
12:01:42 <Time for BH> 999, when you analyze data, do you account for twice a year time changes?
12:02:02 <ynpvisitor999®> as in?
12:02:11 <ynpvisitor999®> ooh, MDT/MST
12:02:15 <Time for BH> Daylight savings time?
12:03:00 <ynpvisitor999®> so far all my data is in MDT, though to tackle that problem I may as well convert all times to UTC
12:03:12 <ynpvisitor999®> that is, for my Lion graph
12:03:14 <Time for BH> I guess it may not be significant because of holes in Data anyway.
12:03:44 <ynpvisitor999®> or I should hold one Mountain time rather than two
12:04:10 <ynpvisitor107> GT records all time in UTC and converts them for display. MDT and MST have always been kept track of in the Geyser logbook.
12:04:38 <Time for BH> GT could confuse people and use Geyser Standard Time.
12:07:17 <ynpvisitor8> Lion
12:07:40 <Time for BH> Not a very strong start
12:09:31 <Time for BH> Is NG doing something?
12:09:40 <Time for BH> I see a little white spot
12:09:53 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't see NG steaming
12:10:20 <Time for BH> Just a white spot
12:10:26 <ynpvisitor107> You may be seeing the boardwaolk closed sign
12:10:59 <Time for BH> That is right of the sign post isn't it?
12:11:32 <Time for BH> Log sign
12:12:13 <ynpvisitor999®> SC
12:13:10 <Time for BH> Hope Betty found a seat. 10 hours standing is no fun.
12:13:44 <Time for BH> Well, I saw BH, so time to go. Enjoy lots of Aurums.
12:13:50 <ynpvisitor999®> bye
13:01:58 <ynpvisitor999®> looks like a Turban
13:04:10 <ynpvisitor999®> Steamboat 1030-1335: "Increasingly strong minors and audible rumbling building to multiple concerted minors with tall vertical play from North Vent and heavy discharge from South that moved a lot of gravel in the trough. Vertical at 1323 (woo), 1327 and 1332 (woohoo)."
13:21:34 <Michael> I'm not a Steamboat expert but that sounds like good progress from yesterday.
13:23:44 <ynpvisitor999®> webcam needs a nap
13:24:18 <ynpvisitor999®> I was thinking the same thing, Michael
13:24:57 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand 1523 ie (could be ns or exact based on height and sustained bursting)
13:29:45 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm off for today. Have fun watching SC and Lion (maybe NG too)
13:32:13 <Michael> Thanks. See you later.
13:36:10 <Michael> OF
13:41:36 <Michael> Dome looks ie
13:55:24 <Michael> Daisy ie. Camop got there way before me.
16:40:12 <ynpvisitor88> Was hoping to see Steam Boat Betty in the room.
16:45:06 <ynpvisitor109> I think she has the Dave touch
16:46:00 <ynpvisitor85> Bite your tongue. That is a terrible thing to say :)
16:46:28 <ynpvisitor88> Would not be fun to get a text at the airport saying SB erupted after standing there for days.
16:47:09 <ynpvisitor85> I think I would turn my phone off until I was back home
16:48:01 <ynpvisitor109> I don't think her phone works here.
16:52:50 <ynpvisitor88> I just hope there are dancing chipmunks or something to help pass the time.
16:54:06 <ynpvisitor85> People are probably repeating the same story for the fourth or fifth time
17:13:44 <ynpvisitor88> Other people have seen the Dancing Chipmunks?
17:14:17 <ynpvisitor88> I get it, they are running out of things to talk about.
17:14:44 <ynpvisitor88> I doubt that, unless they are just running out of energy.
17:15:42 <ynpvisitor8> Bome
17:16:00 <ynpvisitor88> Even Kevin could entertain people for 10 hours with stories and not repeat himself.
17:16:38 <ynpvisitor85> I start repeating after about 20 minutes
17:32:21 <ynpvisitor88> Well, not much to see here, so moving on.
17:33:05 <ynpvisitor85> Grand perhaps in an hour and that is about it
18:12:54 <Michael> OF
18:13:13 <Michael> Nice water colors
18:52:06 <Michael> Daisy ie
18:54:01 <ynpvisitor67> The moonlight really does a good job providing enough light
18:56:08 <Michael> Grand is going to be awfully nice when it goes.
18:56:17 <Michael> Beehive too, but I won't be up that late.
18:57:40 <ynpvisitor67> Agreed, Monday is just hours away. :-(
19:02:28 <Michael> New report from Steamboat. Some improvement but not enough to keep Graham glued to his seat.
19:06:49 <ynpvisitor67> Any idea what the crowds are like as the season winds down? We have never been in the park after the middle of September.
19:09:31 <Michael> I don't know. It sounds like there are still enough people to cause bison jams on the roads now.
19:10:15 <Michael> I wonder if there is a lot more year-round traffic from West Yellowstone than there used to be.
19:13:09 <ynpvisitor67> Seems like shoulder seasons are a thing of the past, but I just looked at visitation numbers, and September is 16.% and October is 5% of annual. That was for 2013-2017.
19:18:02 <Michael> That's a pretty big number for September. Definitely more than just a Labor Day crowd.
19:29:20 <Michael> Grand
19:46:15 <Michael> OF
19:46:28 <Michael> and then it's my bedtime.
19:50:29 <Michael> I think it was long but couldn't see the end clearly.
21:34:42 <htm> was at SB from 1600 to 2100, no major but minor activity increased in water volume while I was there. Going back by 7am.
21:37:01 <ynpvisitor109> Is Betty still there?