Showing logs for date: 2018-10-01
01:28:32 <ynpvisitor59> This is actually not very exciting. Eli's comin' or at least winter
02:22:30 <ynpvisitor10> Beehive?
02:27:33 <ynpvisitor10> What I thought was a fading Beehive was probably a fading Lion. Or something else... It's foggy
02:32:09 <ynpvisitor10> OF
03:59:36 <ynpvisitor83> bug fluff ball
03:59:40 <ynpvisitor83> big*
04:07:56 <ynpvisitor999®> great... a fog bank
04:10:59 <ynpvisitor999®> why the heck are entries disappearing?
04:11:32 <ynpvisitor999®> I hope it's a GT-related bug rather than a bunch of stupid flag bots
04:33:53 <ynpvisitor118> well at least you can see OF
04:43:13 <ynpvisitor999®> Castle ie? Steam plume looks big over there
05:01:52 <Dave from B™> And, just like that....off season foggy mornings have returned. We even had snow yesterday morning
05:02:58 <BSK> Yeah... But it looks like it will clear off rather soon this morning. *fingers crossd*
05:42:58 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone!
05:43:20 <Ernie Lawrence> Hi Dave
05:43:38 <Ernie Lawrence> I think it's a bit foggy today
05:43:41 <ynpvisitor999®> morning all
05:44:18 <BSK> It's actually become foggier in the foreground just in the last couple minutes, but overall its clearing. Light is just hitting it just so right now...
05:45:11 <BSK> Foggy but pretty...
05:45:36 <Dave from B™> I thought you should all know I'm trying to go to SB on Sat & Sun...so, for those trying to catch the next one you might want to go Friday or Monday.
05:49:11 <ynpvisitor999®> this is probably the one time I wish SB does a 6-7 day interval rather than the 5-day ones
05:50:38 <Dave from B™> Thanks DG!
05:51:03 <ynpvisitor999®> wouldn't be surprised if Cistern is drained already
05:53:37 <Ernie Lawrence> Anyone know why the YFT seismogram looks so crazy at about noon yesterday
05:53:59 <BSK> I was wondering that, too.
05:54:26 <ynpvisitor999®> those are calibration and information signals
05:54:41 <BSK> Thanks.
05:55:31 <ynpvisitor999®> it apparantly contains battery level, current settings, time of calibration done and other information. No idea how scientists would extract useful info out of that
05:56:20 <ynpvisitor999®> I think fishynp can give more information
05:56:27 <ynpvisitor999®> once they're here
05:56:53 <Ernie Lawrence> Thanks DG
05:58:04 <ynpvisitor118> I actually like Split Cone.
06:00:05 <ynpvisitor999®> AVO has some seismos too, which, if I recall correctly, output calibration signals twice a day at 12h intervals. This one's from Pavlof volcano: https://www.avo.alaska.edu/webicorders/Pavlof/
06:00:33 <ynpvisitor999®> albeit not in red, you can see the two signals on there quite clearly
06:01:14 <ynpvisitor999®> oh, and speaking of seismos going nuts, this is Redoubt's seismo: https://www.avo.alaska.edu/webicorders/Redoubt/
06:02:51 <Dave from B™> Redoubt erupting?
06:03:06 <ynpvisitor999®> no, it's just that the seismo completely lost it
06:03:14 <Ernie Lawrence> I'd say
06:03:57 <ynpvisitor999®> AVO doesn't have a warning on Redoubt as of typing, so no eruption thread there
06:22:28 <Dave from B™> Everyone in the field have a Steamboat hangover this morning?
06:22:58 <Dave from B™> Or, have gazers dwindled since its October
06:25:07 <ynpvisitor999®> is that steaming patch of ground OFG-1, or am I looking at something completely different?
06:25:45 <Ernie Lawrence> bisonte
06:32:00 <ynpvisitor999®> morning Kevin
06:32:15 <Kevin L™> hi
06:36:21 <ynpvisitor999®> is this Slot erupting? https://youtu.be/OhYQ92iLPTo?t=6425
06:36:50 <ynpvisitor999®> (it really becomes interesting around 1321:45)
06:37:32 <ynpvisitor999®> (and you can see water ~mid 1322)
06:38:14 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
06:38:27 <Dave from B™> I think that is slot...It is a wide but thin plume
06:40:15 <ynpvisitor89> Looks like Slot
06:40:49 <Kevin L™> That looks like :ion
06:41:37 <ynpvisitor999®> nice bursts in the Pump - GHG-17 area a few seconds ago
06:42:20 <ynpvisitor999®> looks like Lion is still going, so I'm calling this the initial
06:44:22 <Betty> I‘m curious to see GHG 17 from the cam. It looked taller than Depression from the lower BW
06:44:39 <Betty> Morning guys
06:44:51 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Betty
06:44:59 <Kevin L™> How was Zion Betty?
06:45:36 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks for helping me identifying Slot, by the way, Dave and Betty
06:46:11 <Dave from B™> yw DG
06:46:14 <Betty> It was a bummer! We left the lodge early to get a parking lot, but no chance for that:-(
06:46:15 <Dave from B™> Hi Betty
06:46:24 <Dave from B™> Morning Kevin
06:46:42 <Kevin L™> Hi Dave.
06:46:59 <Betty> morning Dave and Kevin, afternoon DG
06:47:01 <Kevin L™> Were you able to get any of the trails you wanted?
06:47:09 <Betty> no
06:47:41 <Kevin L™> :p
06:47:56 <Betty> we circled a while but sure this early no one did leave
06:48:03 <Dave from B™> So, you've been shut out of Zion 2 trips in a row?
06:48:21 <Kevin L™> I would think that the crowds would dwindle by now.
06:48:49 <Betty> we decided to drive through to Mt. Carmel junction
06:48:52 <Kevin L™> They do have a shuttle that takes you from town into the park now.
06:48:58 <Betty> yup, Dave
06:49:30 <Kevin L™> That is a pretty drive. Should have gone up to Bryce.
06:49:40 <Betty> but parking in town costs a 30$ for the day!
06:50:23 <Dave from B™> What is Zion Lodge in the park like?
06:50:23 <ynpvisitor...> Nice line at West for the 1st of October
06:50:25 <Betty> We did the Grand Canyon north rim instead
06:50:56 <Kevin L™> I am getting really disgusted with Springdale. A lot of greedy jerks there now.
06:51:14 <Kevin L™> I like the North Rim.
06:51:45 <Betty> It is such a pretty town, we really liked it in the evening
06:52:29 <ynpvisitor...> The Lodge is like a motel, the cabins are kinda fun. I will be there the 5th & 6th. The Lodge was built in a hurry after a fire and really isn't much. It should be redone to match its surroundings.
06:53:41 <Kevin L™> It used to be a lot of fun. I prefer to remember it as in the old days.
06:53:49 <Betty> we stayed at LaQuinta Inn and payed 289$ plus tax. We chose the wrong time I think for there was a Music festival this weekend
06:54:30 <Betty> way too expensive
06:54:35 <Kevin L™> That could explain it.
06:55:31 <Betty> need to grab at least 1 more hour of sleep, bbl
06:55:46 <BSK> Happy napping
06:55:48 <ynpvisitor999®> sleep well
06:55:53 <Kevin L™> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I can relate.
06:56:53 <ynpvisitor51> Are there a bunch of missing OF eruptions between 2353 and 0558?
06:57:07 <ynpvisitor999®> there are. I'm currently reviewing the overnights
06:57:29 <ynpvisitor51> ok! thx
06:57:36 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if the new cam position allows for seeing above the fog
06:57:39 <ynpvisitor...> 51 I think the basin was socked it with fog during the night also
06:58:07 <Kevin L™> I looked late and could not see anything.
06:58:07 <ynpvisitor999®> fog really set in around 2230
06:58:11 <BSK> I hope the new cam position isn't above the inversion layer some mornings. That occurred to me today.
06:58:30 <ynpvisitor999®> inversion layer?
06:58:50 <BSK> Low level fog layer
06:59:19 <BSK> As with this morning, low fog, clear sky above...
06:59:31 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks. I actually wouldn't really mind that, as you can still see plumes and infer eruptions from that
06:59:51 <BSK> And it does make a nice sunrise glow...
07:02:00 <ynpvisitor999®> Aurum?
07:02:46 <ynpvisitor999®> actually probably some Giantess steam
07:03:17 <BSK> I thought Aurum once before this morning for a moment. Been steamy over there...
07:07:23 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP 0839, looks like a strong one
07:07:35 <ynpvisitor999®> some nice bursting from Improbable there
07:09:28 <Kevin L™> I bet Giant would make an incredible cloud this morning.
07:10:52 <BSK> You don't say...
07:12:21 <ynpvisitor...> Big steam is both fun and spectacular. I admit I like water. Depression without a cloud was unique.
07:12:53 <ynpvisitor999®> that bulge on the fog bank makes me think Grand is ie
07:14:13 <Kevin L™> I think Grand would make a plume that would go out of the picture.
07:14:56 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand 0910 ie in-basin
07:15:05 <BSK> Can't see steam through the steam... :)
07:15:39 <ynpvisitor999®> we need some kind of FLIR on the cam in cases like these :)
07:15:46 <ynpvisitor...> A week ago tomorrow the early morning Grand looked atomic in scale. Very beautiful.
07:18:04 <ynpvisitor999®> Beehive 0416
07:19:56 <Dave from B™> Kitt has returned to the basin?
07:20:41 <Dave from B™> In case you late comers missed it, SB attempt #6 in this Fri & Sat, so plan your trips for Fri and Monday
07:20:55 <Dave from B™> oops Sat & Sun trip
07:23:25 <sparekitty> i can be there the 13th and 14th--can i order a SB for then, please?? ;)
07:26:58 <BSK> Steam bank thinning a bit...
07:28:46 <ynpvisitor999®> I've entered everything I could see on the overnights
07:43:09 <Rice> Does it bother anyone else, when statments are made that Morning has not erupted in XXXX years Months, etc, when it is truly no one has seen it erupt.
07:43:34 <Rice> It could be doing off everynight at 1 am, all winter long?
07:44:05 <ynpvisitor999®> Fountain has a logger, and Morning's eruptions can be indirectly inferred from that
07:44:31 <Rice> 999@ post made me think of that, struggling to enter overngiht data, when we do have a webcam
07:45:02 <Rice> Maybe Mornging is a not great example, but we go all winter long, with not data
07:45:28 <Rice> I guess it is the engineer in me, that only wants data that is clean.
07:45:38 <ynpvisitor999®> :)
07:47:18 <Rice> There are probably over eruptions like Ear Spring, that happen, and we have no idea for days weeks, months, or even ever....
07:47:29 <Rice> ^other
07:48:06 <ynpvisitor999®> true, but I don't think ES will erupt for a while if it remains true to TSB's description
07:48:45 <ynpvisitor999®> at least concerning it's major eruptions
07:49:08 <Dave from B™> rare eruptions like ear Spring leave lots of evidence of an eruption. Rice, I understand your need for clean data but in the geyser world that is very difficult at times
07:49:19 <ynpvisitor34> most descriptions will say last "known" eruption of anything
07:50:29 <Rice> Sometimes we use the GT data, to literally, and dont remember that there are eruptions that get missed.
07:50:31 <ynpvisitor999®> that's probably for the better, too, 34. Who knows what Link may be doing if it's hidden behind a fog bank :)
07:51:21 <ynpvisitor34> GT isn't the full story by any means - it is what gets entered
07:51:31 <Dave from B™> I still feel a Giant could have been missed this year when the park was closed between Winter and Summer season
07:51:55 <Rice> Exactly
07:52:04 <Dave from B™> But GT is better than Anything we've had before
07:52:05 <ynpvisitor999®> LC ie
07:52:32 <Rice> Evan a Steamboat could be missed also.
07:52:36 <Kevin L™> With GT, loggers, and the cam we sure have a LOT more data than we did before
07:53:04 <ynpvisitor34> it's always been there, but not at the click of a button
07:53:33 <ynpvisitor...> Lots of sputs visible on Mt. Washburn cam this morning.
07:54:15 <Ernie Lawrence> Good Lion
07:54:32 <Rice> Somebody was going to make a map of the areas visible from MT Washburn cam, I would like that.
07:55:27 <ynpvisitor...> We are also going to need a new map of the UGB here shortly.
07:56:16 <ynpvisitor999®> With everything calming down now, I don't think we'll be missing Steamboat on YNM. It also has data loggers from NPS and USGS (the latter's logger failing terribly) and there's a logger on Cistern from NPS, as well as the Tantalus gauge, so it's highly unlikely we'll be missing SB
07:57:07 <ynpvisitor34> even before loggers evidence of a Steamboat eruption is huge so very few have been missed
07:57:47 <ynpvisitor108> Did Micah get SB?
07:57:53 <Kevin L™> But before it was just that it erupted. Now we know when.
08:02:07 <Dave from B™> No doubt fewer eruptions of all geysers are missed today than in the past
08:11:11 <BSK> Ummm...
08:11:15 <Dave from B™> Beautiful sky for OF
08:11:28 <Dave from B™> take it the last was a short
08:11:41 <BSK> That was a very short interval.
08:11:54 <Kevin L™> So what happens if the Dodgers lose today Dave?
08:12:12 <ynpvisitor108> THe other team wins
08:12:17 <Dave from B™> They play in the wild card game tomorrow against the other loser today on the orad
08:12:30 <Dave from B™> road*
08:13:30 <ynpvisitor108> Kevin, you should get your club of too old to work state employees to buy nascar. You could prabably pick it up cheep after Sunday.
08:14:27 <ynpvisitor999®> so 1011 OF start (or the minute before?)
08:15:11 <BSK> I'd say 10:10.
08:15:38 <BSK> It had already been going for 20-30 seconds when I said "ummmm"
08:15:45 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks
08:16:32 <ynpvisitor999®> there has been a long-long interval a few days ago which was only 1h15m
08:18:45 <Dave from B™> That's interesting...Thankd DG and BSK
08:19:05 <ynpvisitor34> long-long?
08:19:25 <ynpvisitor999®> long to long interval
08:19:59 <ynpvisitor999®> I timed that first long at 4m01s (I think last spray visible) and the other one at 4m25s (same for the 4m01s one)
08:20:06 <ynpvisitor34> would that be a medium in the 'old days'?
08:20:26 <ynpvisitor999®> 4m01s?
08:20:57 <ynpvisitor999®> as far as I know, no
08:24:18 <ynpvisitor34> and how did the intervals look then
08:25:11 <Dave from B™> I'm gonna throw this out there for someone to crunch numbers.....did GH event change OF intervals at all?
08:27:03 <ynpvisitor999®> in 1992, long-long intervals were generally around the 1h15m mark, short-long intervals around 55-60m and the first interval after a short-long pair around 1h25m
08:28:19 <ynpvisitor108> No short shorts? They have them in Vegas.
08:29:15 <ynpvisitor...> I remember short-shorts fondly from my youth
08:30:54 <Dave from B™> decade of short shorts...1980's or 1970's?
08:30:55 <ynpvisitor999®> there were a few short-short pairs, resulting in 55m-60m intervals each
08:31:21 <ynpvisitor108> Thanks 999
08:32:10 <ynpvisitor20> isn't there a song about short shorts?
08:32:38 <BSK> I remember a short-shorts advertising jingle
08:32:45 <ynpvisitor34> a bad commercial
08:33:49 <ynpvisitor108> It was a bad commercial, however I think they sold lots of razors. I think that is what they were selling.
08:34:02 <Eric> Morning
08:34:27 <Kevin L™> Morning Eric.
08:35:08 <Kevin L™> Royal Teens sang Short Shorts in the late 50's. Was picked up for a Nair commercial I think in the 70's.
08:35:13 <BSK> The commercial was for Nair. I guess it was a good commercial. I remember what they were advertising. On the other hand, I never bought it.
08:35:19 <ynpvisitor20> well isn't that sad that some of my brain is taken up by a commerical song
08:35:20 <ynpvisitor108> Well I remembered incorrectly. They sold razors in a bottle.
08:36:04 <ynpvisitor108> But for the complete distraction, here is the song the commercial was based on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcvjXAtzaMU
08:36:05 <BSK> 80's. I wouldn't remember 70's. I'll date myself, but not pre-date myself. :)
08:36:51 <ynpvisitor108> I thought Kevin may have danced to the song.
08:36:54 <Kevin L™> The funny one was the "I'm a Pepper" Dr. Pepper ad. Got a bunch of awards but sales dropped because Dr Pepper people wanted to be different, not one of the group!
08:37:13 <Jeff in CT> Morning all, what's with the Short shorts - from the early 1970's, I'm thinking
08:37:16 <Kevin L™> Aurum
08:37:18 <Kevin L™> .
08:37:19 <Kevin L™> .
08:38:14 <ynpvisitor108> Fizzy prune juice. Never could figure out why people would drink the stuff.
08:38:37 <Kevin L™> I always like Mt Dew myself.
08:38:44 <ynpvisitor108> Hard to tell when to blink when you are delayed
08:38:49 <ynpvisitor34> a geyser! thank goodness
08:38:58 <Jeff in CT> By the way, the last 12 Lion initials have all been predicted to within an average of 0.5 hr of actual, but with a deviation of ~4 hours
08:39:33 <Kevin L™> BTW static did catch Aurum.
08:39:34 <ynpvisitor108> Sounds like a politician.
08:40:21 <ynpvisitor108> Do they make decaf dew?
08:40:39 <Jeff in CT> So next Lion will either be around 11:00, if in sequence, or around 18:30 tonight, if new initial
08:42:00 <Jeff in CT> Been away for a week - so the b/w is now fully open?
08:42:42 <BSK> No. In fact, you can see pedestrian barricade left of center of the frame right now.
08:43:00 <ynpvisitor...> Ear around to Giantess still closed.
08:43:53 <Dave from B™> Have we had any illegal workers on the closed bw?
08:44:02 <Dave from B™> yikes...walkers*
08:44:15 <Dave from B™> forget about green cards:D
08:44:32 <ynpvisitor...> I tried, but Bill's cams scared me off :)
08:44:53 <ynpvisitor34> the workers are legal :)
08:53:42 <ynpvisitor108> A green jump suit will get you passage?
08:54:28 <ynpvisitor108> Do they carry bear spray on their tool belt?
08:54:40 <ynpvisitor34> more like a high visibility vest
08:54:47 <Dave from B™> No, but I can get you a bright orange shirt of a black and white striped one for you after you walk out there!:)
08:54:48 <Jeff in CT> Sorry, Lion initial-to-initial interval can be predicted to within +/- 3 hours on average (not 0.5 hours on average)
08:54:55 <Dave from B™> of = or*
08:55:12 <Dave from B™> 6 hours is a big window
08:55:37 <Jeff in CT> That's what it has been over the past 10 years or so
08:57:04 <ynpvisitor108> All I know is Grand always starts "after this Turban".
08:57:12 <Dave from B™> I've been there for an entire window one time.......
08:57:16 <Dave from B™> with no eruption
08:57:57 <ynpvisitor19> :lion:
08:58:19 <Dave from B™> Which is closer in time to Norris, keeping in mind bison traffic....West or OF?
08:58:33 <Dave from B™> for next weekend
08:59:31 <ynpvisitor34> Not Mammoth or Gardiner?
09:01:16 <Dave from B™> Gardiner/Mammoth wouldn't have bison issues
09:02:18 <ynpvisitor34> I think those jams change as the herd moves around so it would be a coin toss
09:03:01 <Dave from B™> When does Mammonth Norris road close for the season? I'm assuming early because of construction
09:03:18 <ynpvisitor34> it only takes a few elk or bison to slow things down
09:04:23 <ynpvisitor108> Madison is open, just camp out.
09:04:46 <Jeff in CT> What is curious is that if the sequence has only 1, 2 or 3 events, then the error in predicting next initial is much greater
09:05:11 <Dave from B™> IN OCTOBER? YOU'RE CRAZY....WE TENT CAMP
09:05:27 <Eric> Is norris campground closed?
09:05:35 <Eric> Get a better tent dave :-P
09:05:46 <Dave from B™> hahahahaha
09:06:09 <Eric> Hire some porters to go in and set you up a glamping site.
09:06:12 <ynpvisitor108> Norris is closed, just checked
09:06:15 <Dave from B™> Jeff, are you measuring series end to series start or series start to next series start?
09:06:22 <Dave from B™> Thanks 108
09:06:55 <Jeff in CT> The prediction is from initial, in a series, to next initial. The correlation is based on total number of events in the series
09:07:37 <ynpvisitor108> People have slept in tents for centuries. With out fancy sleeping bags I may add.
09:07:40 <Jeff in CT> The averaged correlation is nearly linear, but with significant error bars, and a non-zero intercept
09:08:11 <ynpvisitor108> I bet Kevin even did it when he was in uniform.
09:08:22 <ynpvisitor108> Never did warm up, but he did it
09:09:03 <Dave from B™> Rooms in West or Gardiner should be cheap by now
09:09:16 <BSK> I'm not adverse to sleeping in my tent any month, but I'm using my fancy (heavy) sleeping bag!
09:09:41 <Jeff in CT> 10:57 event is the third in the current series. Which means, the 4th (if it happens) will be about 1h10m from 10:57, or 12:07. Or, the next initial will be at 20:57 tonight, but +/- 8 or more horus
09:09:54 <Eric> BTW Dave, I have a great hike for you next time your in PGX
09:09:57 <Jeff in CT> Horus or hours
09:10:01 <Eric> PDX
09:10:27 <Dave from B™> Eric, gorge hike?
09:10:35 <Eric> Yep, on the washington side.
09:10:42 <Eric> about 35 minutes from UP
09:10:51 <Eric> Hamilton Mountain
09:11:10 <Eric> It will kick your butt, 3.5 miles of vertical up.
09:11:10 <ynpvisitor108> To hike in PDX you need more then bear spray.
09:11:28 <Eric> But it is so worth it.
09:11:40 <Dave from B™> My wife doesn't do vertical
09:11:50 <Eric> Oh, bummer
09:12:19 <Eric> I think people use it to train for mt. climbing :-D
09:13:41 <Dave from B™> I enjoyed the drive from Garden of the Gods Bridge to Camas on the north side of Columbia on our last trip
09:14:29 <Eric> Bridge of the Gods is a cool crossing.
09:15:17 <Dave from B™> It is. Beacon Rock looks inviting for a future trip
09:15:58 <Eric> Hamilton Mt. is at the same location...it climbs up about 3 times the height of beacon rock.
09:16:15 <ynpvisitor108> I am guessing you are coming down from Spokane, If so, do not cross the river, and stay on the Washington side. Completely different view.
09:17:01 <Dave from B™> 108, that thought has crossed my mind but I bet it would take an extra hour
09:17:38 <Eric> Getting to beacon rock from UP is faster to just hit hwy 14 on the Washington side.
09:17:56 <ynpvisitor108> You can do 65 to 70 easy.
09:18:30 <ynpvisitor108> And it is worth the little extra time.
09:18:33 <Dave from B™> Yep. I like Hwy 14...used it a lot the last trip
09:18:34 <Eric> Not many places to get above 60 on that stretch, but you also don't have to cut back after crossing the river.
09:18:44 <Dave from B™> Thanks, 108. I'll keep it in mind
09:19:40 <ynpvisitor108> You can fly from Umitilla to Biggs on the Washington side.
09:19:48 <Eric> If you want fairly flat and don't mind going into a cave, ape caves is a lot of fun too.
09:20:39 <Eric> Kind of a cool, easy caving experience
09:20:44 <Dave from B™> Is that by MS Helens
09:21:03 <Eric> Yep, south side, so about 45m from UP I believe
09:21:56 <Eric> woops, little bit further, about 75m there
09:23:55 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Eric. Becca is a lot more independent of late...not sure we will be driving out next year with her.
09:24:39 <ynpvisitor108> Got to go, don't get sea sick.
09:25:35 <Dave from B™> And, Parker is tihnking he wants to go to a school with more computer game design than WWU, so who knows where or when we will be taking him to school next year
09:26:51 <Eric> No problem Dave, I know you will be back for at least graduation :-D
09:27:43 <Dave from B™> I hope so.....her boyfriend is at UM in Missoula so who knows what she is thinking
09:28:56 <Eric> utt oh, relationships have a way of changing things.
09:30:05 <Dave from B™> and the fact she wants to teach in Montana and also she hasn't made many friends at UP.
09:40:19 <Dave from B™> Eric, what is your mileage count up to now?
09:41:08 <ynpvisitor999®> Riverside ie
09:48:01 <ynpvisitor999®> Cistern Spring 1025: "Cistern drained to 4-6" below rim of inner tube. Water is cloudy, possibly due to heavy SB runoff that was flowing into it last night."
09:48:42 <ynpvisitor999®> Steamboat 1019-1046: "Cistern drained to 4-6" below rim of inner tube. Water is cloudy, possibly due to heavy SB runoff that was flowing into it last night."
09:48:49 <ynpvisitor999®> Both vents throwing continuous water, NV 10-80+', SV 10-30', clean and no rocks. Boardwalk to Cistern closed due to icy conditions. Cistern drained 4-6" below rim of inner tube. Water is cloudy, possibly due to heavy SB runoff that was flowing into it last night. Moderate runoff at bridge (scale2-3?), water milky and trench is free of gravel.
09:48:51 <ynpvisitor999®> oops
09:52:46 <Kevin L™> I like tent camping less than I like snow. Spent 4 years in various tents in all kinds of weather and my idea of roughing it is a motel without cable TV and wifi.
09:53:20 <ynpvisitor999®> rainvow
09:53:22 <ynpvisitor999®> bow
09:54:11 <BSK> I love tent camping and snow, both, but these days I don't bother with the tent. I make up a bed in the back of my Jeep Wrangler.
09:54:51 <Kevin L™> I suppose camping is more fun when you aren't working 40 hour shifts.
09:55:13 <BSK> Camping is fun when it's optional. :)
09:55:24 <Dave from B™> I'm hoping to find a real nice place in West for under $100
09:59:36 <Kevin L™> Motel in West for under $100: https://www.123rf.com/photo_9951644_alaskan-rustic-outhouse-in-summer.html
10:00:34 <Dave from B™> I thought it was going to be a pic of a tent
10:00:57 <Kevin L™> It does come with a bath...
10:02:03 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
10:02:38 <Dave from B™> I just looked at the forecast for the weekend......yikes....I'm going to wait a couple days to decide
10:02:44 <ynpvisitor999®> it has a tough time waking up from this nap
10:03:13 <Dave from B™> 40's please:)
10:03:18 <Kevin L™> Must be October. They are advertising fake Christmas trees.
10:03:26 <Eric> Dave, I have walked 130 miles in the last 23 days.
10:03:30 <ynpvisitor999®> looks like EOS to me, though would be nice if it's going to continue
10:03:53 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe not EOS with those tall jets
10:03:57 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
10:04:21 <BSK> Wind is diminishing height, too.
10:04:32 <Dave from B™> Eric, wow...be careful not to overdue things
10:04:50 <Eric> Yep, feeling great :-D
10:05:22 <BSK> I have a friend with breast cancer that has hiked over 600 miles over the past 5 months, during which she has had surgery, chemo & radiation.
10:05:29 <Dave from B™> Tomorrow Is Day 1 of getting back on the exercise and diet wagon
10:06:28 <Eric> I do have to start including some more cardio in my workouts though, Hamilton Mt. really showed me that :-D
10:06:55 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP 1055 A weak
10:07:05 <ynpvisitor...> A person's will can be amazing.
10:07:25 <BSK> Yup. Her mantra has been "hiking cures cancer."
10:07:33 <Dave from B™> Yep...but I lost my willpower somewhere 3 years ago. If anyone finds it, please mail it to me
10:07:38 <ynpvisitor...> :heart:
10:07:55 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe SB will help
10:08:17 <Dave from B™> The 12 mile jaunt to Shoshone about killed me.
10:08:31 <Kevin L™> My T-Shirt. I figure anything now is a bonus. https://www.amazon.com/Dog-Years-Im-Dead-t-shirt/dp/B01EIIBSJQ
10:09:28 <ynpvisitor...> I like that!
10:09:52 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... I suspect theoridiots have been busy with the cable again
10:09:59 <Eric> Yes, I am hoping to be able to get out to shoshone next year.
10:10:17 <Eric> stream dead
10:11:10 <ynpvisitor...> Dave, did you go in from Lone Star?
10:11:15 <Dave from B™> Eric, if you would like a hiking partner to Shshone let me know
10:11:30 <Dave from B™> No, I went in on Dogshead and out Lewis River Channel
10:11:31 <ynpvisitor999®> stream was back for a second ther
10:11:31 <ynpvisitor999®> e
10:12:35 <Eric> its back
10:12:52 <Eric> choppy still though
10:13:24 <Eric> I will be there over memorial day weekend Dave if you want to do it :-D
10:13:39 <Kevin L™> Maybe Micah is trying to upload his videos.
10:14:07 <ynpvisitor999®> haha
10:14:53 <Kevin L™> Eric, did you mention you were using Linux on your computer?
10:18:06 <ynpvisitor34> Mem Day weekend might be too early - depends on snow
10:18:40 <Kevin L™> Indy 500 weekend to boot
10:24:38 <Eric> Yep, I have been using Ubuntu Linux for about the last 10 years
10:25:40 <Kevin L™> Is that what is on your computer now?
10:26:12 <Eric> Yep
10:27:09 <Kevin L™> I will have to send you an email with a few questions. I have been thinking of building a computer that is non gates.
10:32:49 <ynpvisitor999®> I've been tinkering a little bit with Ubuntu Linux for school in a VM, but personally I think I'll be sticking to Windows for the forseeable future, probably because I've been using it my whole life now
10:34:06 <Kevin L™> Interesting cloud north of Idaho Falls: http://birice.vaisala.com/photos/02994996_F953967C_CAM2.jpg
10:34:59 <ynpvisitor999®> I see those clouds almost daily, especially during autumn, winter and spring
10:35:40 <Dave from B™> Eric, I will keep that in mind. I've been debating about a Memorial Weekend trip
10:36:12 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
10:39:53 <Betty> Hi again
10:40:22 <Kevin L™> Awake now?
10:40:30 <Kevin L™> Where are you at?
10:40:30 <ynpvisitor999®> welcome back Betty
10:40:38 <Betty> Haha, yes
10:40:52 <Betty> Still Las Vegas
10:41:08 <Kevin L™> Heading home today?
10:41:16 <Betty> Tomorrow we will leave
10:41:35 <Kevin L™> We did cool it off for you!
10:41:43 <Betty> Flight number is DE 2063
10:42:11 <Kevin L™> What time do you leave?
10:42:18 <Betty> Yes, we almost needed a jacket yesterday evening
10:42:36 <Kevin L™> Did you get the rainbow?
10:42:47 <Betty> 1410
10:43:16 <Kevin L™> So you will be going during my shift.
10:43:25 <Betty> No, we came to LV around 2200 yesterday
10:43:36 <Betty> Yup
10:43:43 <Betty> :-}
10:44:08 <Kevin L™> Probably got some rain along I-15
10:45:12 <Kevin L™> Not a big crowd at Oktoberfest right now but I suppose it is late.
10:45:37 <Kevin L™> I like the three cams for it this year. Ferris wheel is cool.
10:46:28 <Betty> We went from north rim to Mable canyon and via Flagstaff to LV
10:47:00 <Kevin L™> Wow. Long trip.
10:47:13 <Betty> This must have been a great show at steamboat yesterday
10:47:31 <Kevin L™> How did you like I-11?
10:47:32 <Betty> Fun signature on the graph
10:48:10 <Betty> I did not expect it goes this way
10:48:17 <Kevin L™> It was strong
10:48:42 <Betty> But sure Boulder is more quiet now
10:49:06 <Kevin L™> Saves a lot of time.
10:49:29 <Kevin L™> Way different than last year.
10:50:18 <Betty> Ha! I put 2$ In a slot machine and earned 18$ :-D
10:51:16 <Kevin L™> That is nice. hard to figure the new machines out.
10:51:51 <BSK> I tell my husband you just put money in and hit "start" :)
10:52:00 <Betty> I like the Wild Cherry 🍒 ones
10:52:38 <BSK> I have a tendency to find the most annoying machine on any casino floor. That's my special talent.
10:53:55 <Betty> I usually don’t put more than 5$ in.
10:54:08 <Kevin L™> My brother and I programmed a bunch for the PC back in the 80's. A slot mechanic friend helped us with the mechanics of them so there were real. The symbols on the machines were 1700 pixels and the code had to be hand entered in base 16.
10:54:15 <ynpvisitor999®> I remember my dad once putting some money in some kind of machine. Every time he put €1 in it, he got €2 back. He stopped because he thought he was exploiting a bug
10:56:19 <Kevin L™> A lot of times the casinos will put machines that pay over 100% on the end of the aisles to hook you. Once you hit it a few times you have a tendency to move from that machine. The ones in the middle were as low as 65%. People would play them expecting that they were "ready to hit" only to lose all their money.
10:57:32 <Kevin L™> This was our game (We were Nimbus Enterprises). http://www.lcurtisboyle.com/nitros9/cardsandslots.html
10:59:22 <BSK> Good graphics for the period.
11:00:03 <Kevin L™> That was when 640x480 was high res!
11:01:04 <Kevin L™> The reels had a bounce when they stopped. The action was great. We had digitized sound for the antique, mechanical, and electronics.
11:07:28 <ynpvisitor999®> nice splashing in Pump - GHG-17 area
11:21:41 <Kevin L™> No rainbow
11:21:56 <BSK> There was a slight rainbow
11:22:15 <BSK> Not like earlier, though...
11:22:47 <Kevin L™> Usually by now it is marginal
11:57:57 <ynpvisitor999®> looks like I'm in time for Lion
12:00:48 <Jeff in CT> Have not yet found any type of correlation wrt number of events in a sequence, so no way (for me at least) to predict when a particular event ends the current sequence
12:03:37 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't think there is a clear signal which means EOS for Lion, though I do think that a 1h15m+ interval in a series (apart from the one following the initial) could mean an increased chance on Lion ending its series
12:06:26 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
12:07:21 <Jeff in CT> Right on schedule, again
12:07:47 <Jeff in CT> Question - does Lion run out of water, or out of energy, to end the sequence? I'm thinking its energy
12:09:29 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm thinking the latter too, because it seems it has always enough water to send up a thick water column early on in the eruption, at least for non-minors
12:10:50 <Jeff in CT> If I had time, I'd try to correlate with behavior of local geysers, such as LC, NG, etc...
12:13:50 <ynpvisitor999®> I may have something to help you with your quest on Lion's predictability: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Oqc6EwMAlkpTQyLN0ViuCGuQrdbgMDgY
12:16:44 <Eric> Did someone backfill OF with an in basin time?
12:16:46 <Jeff in CT> Great, thanks - looks like NG has no impact on Lion, then
12:16:51 <Eric> based on NPS prediction?
12:17:11 <Jeff in CT> Probably, based on water column height, Lion is much deeper in the ground than NG
12:17:26 <Eric> Seems like an entry done that way should be marked some way.
12:17:50 <ynpvisitor999®> I sometimes enter those as well, but mark them as A, so that they can easily be overwritten
12:17:59 <Eric> I would guess it's probably correct, but it's not an observation.
12:18:29 <ynpvisitor5> That fog was terrible last night
12:18:51 <Eric> This was for the last OF eruption.
12:18:59 <ynpvisitor999®> I did like the light behind the fog, 5
12:20:04 <ynpvisitor20> 999, nice chart. a logarithmic line would appear to fit the data better than linear
12:20:23 <ynpvisitor999®> and Jeff, I think it's likely Lion's plumbling is at roughly the same height of NG's, but that it's tall cone allows for more pressure to build up between series and during series
12:20:56 <ynpvisitor999®> and 20, the graph looks much better when you download that file. It's Goggle Drive that messes up the line
12:21:03 <ynpvisitor20> a logarithmic relationship is seen in other geysers duration vs interval as well. grotto comes to mind
12:22:13 <ynpvisitor999®> this is how the graph is supposed to be, if you're not planning on downloading that excel file: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1M5F1sBx8tL4HcDqZKvWKxu-ho3oOOlL-
12:22:41 <Jeff in CT> So many variables, so little time...
12:22:42 <ynpvisitor999®> I do have to note it's an older version of the one in that Excel file
12:23:49 <Ernie Lawrence> Goggle Drive? Freudian slip
12:24:01 <ynpvisitor999®> whoops :P
12:24:26 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm probably used to writing 'Goggle' rather than 'Google'. I blame NG
12:27:43 <ynpvisitor999®> as for those approximate OF times based on NPS' predictions, I'm probably the one who started entering those. I think I thought to myself 'that it's better than no time entered'
12:38:07 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm off for today. Have fun watching SC and Geyser Hill
13:01:09 <ynpvisitor118> What a grand site
13:02:17 <ynpvisitor118> Grand after last Turban, can never get that one wrong!
13:04:48 <ynpvisitor118> That kid going to fall on his brain?
13:05:35 <ynpvisitor49> of
13:05:56 <ynpvisitor92> Are you recording the Dodger game Dave?
13:06:27 <ynpvisitor118> Is that a second, or just death throws?
13:09:53 <ynpvisitor118> looks done now
13:10:06 <ynpvisitor41> Lion, kind of.
13:10:13 <ynpvisitor41> There we go.
13:10:40 <ynpvisitor41> Or not.
13:10:59 <ynpvisitor118> #6
13:11:20 <ynpvisitor118> May be last one?
13:12:14 <ynpvisitor41> Trying again...
13:13:20 <ynpvisitor92> Grand and OF must be connected. Grand always goes with OF.
13:17:35 <ynpvisitor75> Giant still being stubborn?
13:19:55 <ynpvisitor41> Daisy, I believe.
13:37:22 <Dave from B™> 92, I'm watching updates. I'll catch the final 3 innings at home
13:40:00 <Jeff in CT> If Lion is done for today, the next initial should be sometime around 4:00 am tomorrow morning... (plus/minus 5 hrs :-/)
13:40:16 <ynpvisitor75> are you guys empty nest Dave or does Taylor live at home still?
13:44:40 <Dave from B™> We are empty nesters. Taylor's bought a townhouse almost 2 years ago.
13:44:56 <Dave from B™> She lives about a half mile from work. I live 11 miles away
13:45:05 <ynpvisitor92> Not a bad game so far. Just started bot 5 with a double
13:45:11 <Dave from B™> Just my wife and 2 dogs
13:45:30 <Dave from B™> Yep...Hope Buehler can keep it up for a couple more innings
13:46:16 <Dave from B™> Time for me to head out. Have a great evening everyone!
13:49:08 <Jeff in CT> Bye all, enjoy OF
13:49:11 <ynpvisitor75> bye Dave, I hope you guys are not too lonely
13:51:21 <ynpvisitor20> Lion ie
13:51:42 <ynpvisitor92> Another 5 years and it will be full of grandkids
13:52:30 <ynpvisitor92> 2 run homer
14:05:19 <GO GIANT (lots)> hi there. did i miss anything?
14:06:03 <GO GIANT (lots)> woohoo i see BH is on my shift
14:06:39 <GO GIANT (lots)> this view isnt as nice as the last 2 weeks
14:07:50 <GO GIANT (lots)> Eric - can you remove the flag from the OF time please?
14:24:14 <GO GIANT (lots)> missed Slot and Aurum
14:24:32 <GO GIANT (lots)> can always look for slot in 30 min
14:26:45 <GO GIANT (lots)> the new thing should be by that pole ... if it erupts agaon
14:50:42 <GO GIANT (lots)> slot
15:21:02 <GO GIANT (lots)> bhi
15:21:03 <ynpvisitor13> indy?
15:21:04 <GO GIANT (lots)> .
15:21:04 <GO GIANT (lots)> .
15:21:05 <GO GIANT (lots)> .
15:21:05 <GO GIANT (lots)> .
15:21:05 <GO GIANT (lots)> .
15:22:17 <GO GIANT (lots)> slot
15:25:30 <GO GIANT (lots)> quiet in here tonight
15:25:48 <ynpvisitor54> Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
15:30:44 <ynpvisitor54> Dodgers win!
15:33:32 <Kevin L™> And BH celebrates...
15:37:17 <Eric> Can we not see marmot cave erupt?
15:37:52 <GO GIANT (lots)> I think we can see the steam from it
15:39:18 <GO GIANT (lots)> can you remove your IF flag olease?
15:39:22 <GO GIANT (lots)> OF
15:41:18 <GO GIANT (lots)> theres Marmot Cave
15:41:50 <GO GIANT (lots)> rather underwhelming from here
15:53:30 <GO GIANT (lots)> daisy
15:53:42 <GO GIANT (lots)> gonna iss SLot now
15:53:45 <Eric> thanks Graham...done.
15:54:20 <Kevin L™> Did you stop by Billings and get a keyboard at Seafoods of the World?
15:55:00 <GO GIANT (lots)> its Dave's gift to me for seeing SB
15:55:29 <GO GIANT (lots)> Slot still ie
15:55:42 <GO GIANT (lots)> or not
15:56:26 <GO GIANT (lots)> did you see Marmot Cave before?
15:56:39 <Eric> I wonder if Dave has thought about staying at canyon next weekend...it's probably the fastest to get to norris. Right?
15:56:50 <Kevin L™> I see we missed an Aurum during BHI
15:57:11 <GO GIANT (lots)> there it is now
15:57:15 <GO GIANT (lots)> Aurum was earlier
15:57:22 <Eric> I have never seen a marmot cave
15:57:28 <ynpvisitor75> Dave is trying for SB again?
15:57:33 <GO GIANT (lots)> its the puffy steam
15:57:35 <ynpvisitor75> That might not go well...
15:57:36 <Eric> I think he might
15:57:45 <Eric> I just see scissor spring
15:57:55 <Kevin L™> I know he was debating this last one.
15:57:59 <GO GIANT (lots)> right in the midele, other side of BW
15:58:01 <Eric> Ohh, I see
15:58:16 <Eric> That looks too close to the BW
15:58:20 <Eric> more like mouth
15:58:29 <GO GIANT (lots)> true, might be
15:58:47 <Eric> LC
15:59:29 <GO GIANT (lots)> thats Marmot Cave
15:59:52 <GO GIANT (lots)> puting up the steam puffs
16:00:17 <GO GIANT (lots)> or maybe not...haha
16:00:29 <Eric> I am not seeing it yet...
16:00:48 <GO GIANT (lots)> i think it will be in a couple of minutes
16:02:05 <GO GIANT (lots)> nw
16:02:08 <GO GIANT (lots)> now
16:02:40 <GO GIANT (lots)> easier to see in the morning
16:03:03 <Eric> This very flat light makes it hard to distinguish scissor spring from marmot
16:03:15 <Eric> where the steam is coming from
16:28:30 <ynpvisitor37> Can anyone tell me where Mouth Geyser is located? I have a 3rd Edition of the TSB book and it is not listed.
16:32:55 <GO GIANT (lots)> its between Marmot Cave and the Dwarfs, on the Marmot cave side of the boardwalk
16:33:16 <ynpvisitor37> Thanks
16:33:50 <GO GIANT (lots)> its the little bit of steam to the right of the boardwalk, center of this picture
16:34:08 <GO GIANT (lots)> hits maybe 6" tops
16:36:45 <ynpvisitor37> I found photo link. It's a little guy. Thanks for the info.
16:54:43 <ynpvisitor71> Man that's gonna be a loooong sit for Bee
17:19:26 <Kevin L™> NG
17:19:32 <Kevin L™> Nice sized one
17:20:03 <GO GIANT (lots)> i was napping again
17:20:26 <Kevin L™> Just like the nationals.
17:20:34 <GO GIANT (lots)> haha
17:20:53 <GO GIANT (lots)> not on GT, didnt happen
17:21:51 <Kevin L™> Knights had 3 short handed goals last night.
17:22:10 <GO GIANT (lots)> that doesnt happen
17:22:35 <Kevin L™> Don't think I have seen a game where most of the goals scored short handed.
17:29:46 <GO GIANT (lots)> i am quitting...enjkoy the evening and NG
17:30:15 <Kevin L™> Good Knight.
17:39:50 <ynpvisitor97> "Not on GT, didn't happen." If I go in and double flag every SB eruption I didn't see can I change history?
17:40:10 <ynpvisitor97> I think I have a plan for this coming weekend.
17:43:14 <ynpvisitor60> Do it Friday or Monday. Dave is talking about coming this weekend.
17:46:14 <ynpvisitor97> OK, I will change my plans
17:46:58 <ynpvisitor97> OF i945 wc
18:17:14 <ynpvisitor71> Castle being lit?
18:17:46 <Eric> I think so