Showing logs for date: 2018-10-02
03:03:09 <ynpvisitor44> OF ie
03:21:42 <ynpvisitor44> Lion
04:30:33 <ynpvisitor44> Some Lion action
04:31:43 <LindaG> kick the morning off right
04:32:02 <LindaG> and a little color
04:32:30 <ynpvisitor9> Lion ie
04:37:51 <LindaG> daisy?
05:17:56 <ynpvisitor32> Bison on the boardwalk
05:19:15 <Dave from B™> Is he frozen?
05:19:38 <ynpvisitor32> Looks like it!
05:24:15 <Dave from B™> If you look at the last couple weeks of BH eruptions, the morning eruptions occur after longer intervals
05:33:02 <Dave from B™> Morning Mike J
05:33:30 <ynpvisitor52> No fog on the cams this morning. A good start to the day.
05:34:22 <Dave from B™> Wait until the weekend when highs will be only 40
05:35:25 <ynpvisitor52> As much as we would like to claim "fake news," winter is a fact.
05:35:51 <Mike J> Morning Dave. Morning all
05:36:30 <Dave from B™> Not if you live in the Caribbean
05:37:05 <Mike J> Quick question. The steam behind OF (by the further boardwalk.) Is that part of the new outbreaks?
05:37:06 <Bill> Morning
05:37:10 <Dave from B™> So, my Bh window today: 0930-1045
05:37:15 <Dave from B™> Morning Bill
05:37:38 <Mike J> Or just normal steam from the various features?
05:38:31 <Dave from B™> Mike J...farthest left steam could be from the new feature
05:38:50 <Dave from B™> Lion is also trying
05:39:09 <Mike J> Thanks. Said it before; I'll say it again. Wish I could be there.
05:39:13 <Bill> I'll be down in UGB tomorrow to check up on the new feature. I'll let ya know about anything exciting.
05:39:32 <Dave from B™> Mike, all it takes is a credit card:)
05:40:07 <Mike J> Agreed, except. I think I've already shared this here, but I managed to break my foot two weeks ago.
05:40:56 <ynpvisitor52> Looking forward to a report. Thanks
05:41:04 <Jeff in CT> Morning y'all
05:41:16 <Bill> Morning
05:42:05 <Jeff in CT> I missed predicting this mornings Lion initial by 1.5 hours, prediction was 6:37, actual was about 5:22
05:42:56 <ynpvisitor52> Couples gazing :)
05:43:30 <Dave from B™> Nice, Jeff
05:44:06 <Dave from B™> Bill, has the planning process begun to reroute the upper boardwalk on GH?
05:44:12 <Jeff in CT> Still not ready for Prime Time, if ever, though - too much variability
05:44:40 <Dave from B™> Mike J, how long do you have to be off your foot?
05:45:30 <Mike J> Dave from B, already in a boot that means I can put some weight (carefullycarefullycarefully) on it. Next doctor visit 11/1. Hoping for good things then.
05:45:38 <Bill> Dave, that will probably start in earnest once the feature(s) stabilizes. Those muddy bubblers near the solitary boardwalk junction may lead to some more movement of the boardwalk.
05:46:06 <Bill> Did i share the most recent picture of that from last week?
05:46:32 <ynpvisitor52> Please do again
05:47:14 <Bill> PM me for a link.
05:50:25 <Jeff in CT> Wasn't that LC ie a few minutes ago?
05:50:51 <ynpvisitor32> Yes
05:51:53 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Bill. I forgot about that feature influencing boardwalk placement as well
05:52:38 <Dave from B™> How about starting Solitary trail closer to the feature in the trees so we can get a closer look at it?:)
05:53:32 <Kent> If you are taking requests, bench at Aurum :)
05:55:05 <Bill> Right now the boardwalk closures are enforced by LE with the recommendations of the Geology program.
05:55:58 <Dave from B™> Exciting times on the hill
05:56:05 <Bill> The closures are where they are for visitor management right now. We don't want to encourage people to get closer to the features, and the barriers being where they are make for much easier management of visitors and traffic.
05:56:45 <Dave from B™> Bill, no arguments here. I'm surprised there haven't been tourists on the closed boardwalks
05:56:54 <Bill> me too!
05:57:12 <Bill> Restored a little faith in humanity
05:57:27 <Mike J> If it was the height of season, I bet it would be a bigger problem.
05:57:52 <Bill> It's a balance. There's more tourists, but there's also more seasonal interp staff
05:57:58 <Bill> all the seasonals are gone now.
05:58:11 <Dave from B™> I know there has been a lot of complaints about human respect for features with all the things ejected from Ear Spring....but it appears most of it is from many many many decades ago
05:58:50 <Mike J> That was a question I had. Anyone know what dates were on the coins?
05:58:51 <ynpvisitor32> Great color in the basin!
05:59:00 <Bill> There were still a ton of newer coins too. It blew out the ones that we couldnt get to with a grabber
05:59:04 <Dave from B™> That's a great shot
05:59:29 <Mike J> Thanks Bill. I think that answers my question - and not in a good way.
05:59:33 <ynpvisitor44> Beautiful
05:59:37 <Bill> Mike J, most of the coins were black and bloated. Some kind of chemical reaction with the zinc
06:00:00 <Dave from B™> It's hard for some to get past....."There's a pool of water. let's throw a coin in and make a wish"
06:00:03 <ynpvisitor109> Made zing sulfide
06:00:12 <Mike J> Bill. Of course, hadn't thought of that. (Looks like my archaeology degree I never used has failed me again.)
06:00:19 <ynpvisitor109> Ha - I meant zinc sulfide
06:01:06 <Bill> I'm a little curious how it makes zinc sulfide (though i'm quite sure you're correct) since it's a basic system.
06:01:13 <Bill> I'm no chemist
06:02:16 <J. Meitnerium> The sulfide ions in solution are going to react with any metal they come in contact with
06:03:11 <J. Meitnerium> And you know there's sulfide because of H2S
06:03:18 <Dave from B™> Has there been any noticeable changes to OF (predictability? average interval?) since GH disturbance?
06:03:59 <Dave from B™> We have had a couple long durations followed by a short interval since the event
06:16:05 <ynpvisitor32> OF 0815
06:21:42 <Jeff in CT> Since Lion is two and done, next initial should be about 15:00, albeit with a rather large variation
06:22:32 <Jeff in CT> Our intrepid Beehive Watchers are still out there, it seems
06:22:48 <Dave from B™> Sorry, Jeff but no windows larger than 3 hours are allowed here:):):)
06:24:56 <Jeff in CT> OK, the window is +/- 3 hours ;)
06:25:42 <Dave from B™> hahahahaha....That is double the allowed amount!
06:26:05 <Dave from B™> I was thinking yesterday that it is so odd that Steamboat is more predictable than Giant
06:28:15 <Jeff in CT> I can significantly knock down the variability by considering only the past year's worth of events, but then the correlation goes from r=0.99 to r=0.92
06:28:40 <Jeff in CT> So, next Lion is now at 15:38 +/- 2.9h
06:28:43 <Dave from B™> And, sadly, I have to miss the next attempt at Steamboat. Commitments at home:(
06:29:40 <Dave from B™> Jeff, what time period was your original prediction based on?
06:31:48 <Jeff in CT> The past 10 years
06:32:05 <Jeff in CT> The past year
06:32:41 <Jeff in CT> The past year is probably better as a predictor as it is not influenced by drifts or changes in behavior.
06:32:59 <Dave from B™> Try the last 3 or 6 months and see what happens. I like more recent data to have more of an influence
06:33:55 <Dave from B™> I can see your point. Lion is tough to predict because it erupts in a series
06:34:19 <Jeff in CT> Using only data from June 1 to Sept 15, I get 15:52 +/- 2.7 hr
06:35:19 <Jeff in CT> Not much of a difference, considering the error, and the correlation is r=0.96, nearly the same as a full years r=0.95
06:36:00 <Dave from B™> NHey, we shrunk your window by 0.6 hours!:D
06:37:28 <Jeff in CT> I'll be back! (at 15:52)
06:37:41 <ynpvisitor...> :)
06:38:18 <Dave from B™> Don't you mean 2.7 hours before that?
06:39:59 <Dave from B™> see you at 13:10:)
06:39:59 <Jeff in CT> Another issue is that any series with more than about 14 events cannot be predicted accurately with only one years worth of data
06:40:17 <Jeff in CT> I have extreme confidence.
06:40:20 <Dave from B™> True, because sample size is too small
06:40:55 <Jeff in CT> For long sequences, using 10 years data is better, but for 'normal' sequences, using 1 year's data is much better, thanks for the suggestion.
06:41:40 <Jeff in CT> If you want to follow at home, the correlation is: hours between initials = 1.663(x) + 7.162, where X is the number of events in the series
06:42:15 <Jeff in CT> So, you can't predict the next initial until the current series is finished. Time between events, in a series, is about 70 min
06:50:25 <Jeff in CT> Cinnamon West hasn't been seen in eruption, until today, since Oct 2017 (once) and before that, a series in Oct., 2016. Is this observational bias (no one around to observe) or just the vagrancies of geysers?
06:52:06 <Dave from B™> Thanks for crunching numbers Jeff. I'm not sure if you know Demitri, but he has also done the same thing for Lion a few years ago.
06:52:12 <Dave from B™> Not sure about CW
06:53:25 <Dave from B™> Not many people spend much time in BSB
06:54:10 <Jeff in CT> I am not really familiar with anyone else associated with Geyser Gazing
07:00:51 <Dave from B™> Jeff, how often do you get to YNP?
07:02:19 <Jeff in CT> Embarrassingly, almost never - only once in past two years, for the eclipse. Kids want to return, however.
07:04:09 <Dave from B™> If you get out, there are a LOT of great people to meet
07:06:06 <Betty> Morning all
07:06:44 <Dave from B™> Hi Betty
07:06:51 <Jeff in CT> Would look forward to it. Our next trip, though, is to Aguascalientes, MX next week, that is going to kill the trip budget for about a year
07:08:03 <ynpvisitor...> Hey Betty
07:08:13 <Betty> Morning Dave, Hi Kent
07:08:54 <Kevin L™> Morning Betty.
07:08:58 <Jeff in CT> Morning
07:10:21 <Betty> hi Jeff in CT and hi Kevin
07:11:08 <Betty> at least it is morning …
07:11:08 <Kevin L™> Daisy
07:11:23 <Kevin L™> And it isn't hot!
07:11:35 <Betty> leaving today ( sigh)
07:12:16 <Kevin L™> :(
07:12:24 <Dave from B™> You shall return!!!!
07:12:30 <Betty> I wonder what you always tell me Kevin! I almost need gloves 🧤 here!
07:12:54 <ynpvisitor33> what's the temp?
07:12:58 <Betty> It is not hot at all ;)
07:13:19 <Kevin L™> 75° right now
07:13:30 <Betty> must be below freezing (feels like that)
07:13:40 <Betty> lol
07:14:18 <Betty> hi sparekitty
07:14:39 <Dave from B™> I'll take 75!
07:14:57 <Dave from B™> I won't see that temp until March
07:15:18 <Betty> you have snow already?
07:15:49 <Betty> need to prepare for my next ski trip now
07:15:52 <ynpvisitor113> Grand
07:16:09 <ynpvisitor999®> morning all
07:16:19 <Betty> Afternoon DG
07:16:56 <Kevin L™> Going to need NoDoz for my shift today.
07:17:29 <Betty> You can track my flight
07:17:46 <Dave from B™> half inch of snow Sun morning. It is gone now.
07:18:02 <Dave from B™> Kevin, you may have BH for your shift
07:18:26 <Betty> Wow, really?? I was just kidding :-/
07:19:09 <Kevin L™> Condor 2063?
07:19:22 <Betty> Yep
07:19:39 <Kevin L™> Looks like it is late
07:19:50 <Betty> I don’t see Grand
07:20:11 <Kevin L™> I see steam all around it.
07:20:12 <Betty> is it?
07:20:34 <Kevin L™> Estimated at 1450 right now.
07:20:51 <Betty> You mean late for my flight?
07:20:55 <sparekitty> hi betty. how is everything?
07:21:03 <Kevin L™> yes
07:22:13 <Betty> It was a great trip. As it always is when we are here :)
07:23:02 <sparekitty> i'll be in west for the weekend of 10/13-14. hoping to see SB but....
07:23:43 <Betty> question: we saw the US flag on halfway yesterday. What was the reason?
07:24:24 <Betty> SC ie
07:24:25 <Kevin L™> 1 year after Route 91 murders.
07:25:13 <Betty> Ok, thanks.
07:25:21 <Dave from B™> wow...that year weny by fast
07:27:02 <Betty> That is what I thought. I remember it happened shortly after we went home last year. But I was not sure
07:27:09 <ynpvisitor999®> here it's referred to as the Las Vegas shootings, sometimes appended by 'from a hotel nearby'
07:28:01 <Betty> Bbl
07:28:13 <Kevin L™> Enjoy your morning Betty.
07:28:58 <Dave from B™> Kevin, is there a memorial on site?
07:29:43 <BSK> My husband and I stay at The Luxor frequently (he plays enough to get into big comps - but he comes out ahead). I told our hostess I never a window facing the scene.
07:30:00 <Kevin L™> They made the place a memorial park and there are 58 crosses at the Welcome to Las Vegas sign right now.
07:30:46 <Dave from B™> Have you had any outdoor concerts since then in LV?
07:31:08 <Kevin L™> There have been plenty. No issues.
07:31:21 <BSK> There is not a memorial on the actual scene. There has been a construction fence around it.
07:36:43 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
07:41:23 <J. Meitnerium> OK what did I miss - long meeting
07:41:52 <J. Meitnerium> Interesting group on the boardwalk, eh?
07:42:00 <Kevin L™> Not BH.
07:42:06 <J. Meitnerium> Yay
07:42:08 <ynpvisitor999®> you haven't missed much
07:42:15 <Dave from B™> Betty is stuck in LV for a few more hours so she can put some more money in a slot machine
07:42:20 <J. Meitnerium> No Giantess minors?
07:42:26 <ynpvisitor999®> nope
07:43:17 <Kevin L™> Pump/17 looks happy
07:44:42 <ynpvisitor32> OF 0944
07:46:22 <Dave from B™> Time for BH, you're just in time
07:55:14 <Time for BH> I count on the Crystal ball I bought. It has been right that last 5 times with 2 Grands.
07:55:22 <Time for BH> You all missed a deal.
07:56:11 <Time for BH> It is a little foggy, so we may have a wait today.
07:56:31 <Dave from B™> I sure Giant goes today
07:56:35 <Dave from B™> hope
07:57:18 <Time for BH> It came with a disclosure. It does not see anything that is off the cam.
07:57:50 <Time for BH> Dave, so your dogs scheduled something for you this weekend?
07:58:29 <Dave from B™>, I have to work because my daughter's finance's sister is getting married and we are celebrating my uncle's 70th birthday on Sunday
07:58:53 <Dave from B™> stupid spell check
07:59:11 <Dave from B™> Someone hit the is time
08:00:01 <Time for BH> Work, I thought I read you were handing off duties for semi retirement. The semi retirement was implied, not mentioned.
08:01:31 <Dave from B™> semi retirement is a long road/process
08:01:38 <Dave from B™> Taylor still has a LOT to learn
08:01:55 <Time for BH> LC
08:02:01 <Dave from B™> This new generation is NOT detail oriented enough
08:02:37 <Dave from B™> They're too busy on Fb, and getting tattos or holes put in their bodies
08:03:05 <Time for BH> Come on, you have to remember back to when your dad said you were a stupid kid and would never learn enough to run the place?
08:03:58 <Dave from B™> He never said that. I was an only. I could do no wrong. He did a better job teaching me that details are the most important thing
08:04:05 <Kevin L™> Never could understand the tattos. :P
08:05:24 <Time for BH> Grapes. The only thing I would ever consider. That way when I got old, they would look like grapes.
08:06:11 <Time for BH> Raisins not grapes
08:06:17 <Time for BH> Never did it, and I am now old and do not want raisins on me.
08:06:23 <Kevin L™> I figured you meant that!
08:07:57 <Kevin L™> The really dumb ones are when Nascar fans have their favorite driver's number tattoed on them. Rides change, drivers retire.
08:08:45 <Eric> pretty male elk on mammmoth camm
08:08:48 <Eric> and good morning
08:08:49 <Time for BH> Only one I have heard of that kind of makes sense. Friend (male) got a pink ribbon. Not sure I would want to memorialize that part of life.
08:09:42 <Kevin L™> Frankly they stick way too many needles in me already. Don't need anymore.
08:10:32 <BSK> Our friend has a tattoo of his two (adult) children on his chest over his heart. His poor daughter is a bearded lady there on his hairy chest.
08:10:48 <Kevin L™> :)
08:11:00 <ynpvisitor13> Can you get rid of the stream delay?
08:11:31 <Kevin L™> If you enable flash. What system are you using?
08:11:39 <BSK> 13 - try using Chrome and then tap the i next to the URL line and allowing Flash.
08:11:49 <Time for BH> Delay is good. You miss less.
08:12:04 <ynpvisitor13> Ok cool thanks
08:12:10 <Kevin L™> If you are on an Apple device they don't support flash.
08:12:31 <Time for BH> I also have way less problems with the stream after dumping flash.
08:12:54 <BSK> When I expect I might want to record, I keep an iPad running (which has delay) and I have a good 30 - 60 seconds to start screen recording. A nice long delay to get set...
08:13:43 <Time for BH> I am using old Mac OS so not sure. I think you can add flash if you want that can of worms. Not sure on IOS.
08:13:46 <ynpvisitor999®> I see NG liked this sleeping Lion - 0944 min
08:15:18 <Kevin L™> I am hoping to see a big cloud in the Giant area too.
08:17:47 <Dave from B™> Well, it appears that Bh decided not to erupt during my 915-1030 window. Thanks a lot, BH
08:18:32 <BSK> Flash has gone "out of style" due to performance and security issues. It is not and never has been (and never will be) supported on iOS.
08:18:41 <Kevin L™> So what time Saturday will SB go Dave?
08:19:26 <Dave from B™> I'm hoping it will go sunday morning so next weekend looks good
08:20:27 <Time for BH> BSK, a quick google search has lots of ways to add flash support to IOS.
08:22:28 <Eric> Yes, flash is not optimal, but nobody has come up with a better cross platform solution for real time streaming :-(
08:23:21 <ynpvisitor999®> I predict SB will go on 7 October @ 0654 ± 24h, which is a 6d12h interval with a 48h window. As it seems SB went roughly 3 days after strong overflow was reported, you could also use 'strong overflow of Cistern + 3 days (and some window)'
08:23:48 <Kevin L™> BH would look nice now with this contrast.
08:24:04 <BSK> Should have said native support - third party browsers can use it. I have a few third-party browsers on my iOS devices to use some sites that don't play nice with Safari.
08:24:16 <Time for BH> I think Giant is having hot flashes.
08:24:27 <BSK> Beehive could play now against that dark sky!
08:24:56 <Kevin L™> You would think someone would come up with a real time format. I can think of a lot of times it would be highly useful.
08:25:25 <ynpvisitor96> Shouldn't it be Giantess is having hot flashes?
08:25:57 <Time for BH> These days anything is possible.
08:26:11 <Eric> There are some Kevin, but getting everyone to agree on it is the tough part.
08:26:15 <Kevin L™> That would be a bummer if Giantess went while the bw was closed.
08:26:30 <Eric> Flash was pretty much universal until iOS came along
08:26:35 <ynpvisitor107> Lol equal opportunity on the flashes
08:27:13 <Dave from B™> Morning GE
08:27:18 <Kevin L™> I can relate Eric. I remember the old TRS80/AppleII/Commodore64 days. :p
08:27:37 <Eric> Yep...nothing worked with each other.
08:27:54 <GE ©> Morning Dave
08:27:54 <Eric> The web was an equalizer and common communication protocol.
08:28:05 <ynpvisitor999®> morning GE
08:28:17 <Time for BH> What soured me on flash was they would do an upgrade, then the new content would not play on the old player.
08:28:27 <GE ©> Morning 999 & all
08:28:35 <Kevin L™> That is one plus I can say about bill gates.
08:28:59 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
08:30:15 <Eric> Yes, flash was clunky and finicky...definitely wish it would fade away, but before it does, bring us a universal live streaming protocol.
08:31:06 <Kevin L™> Just like the Model T gave good ride for its time.
08:32:12 <ynpvisitor999®> didn't you need to drive backwards with the Model T uphill because of an inconveniently placed fuel tank/lack of pumps?
08:32:14 <Time for BH> It would have to be someone like facebook or google that would do it. Only they can make money gathering data from willing users with a free product.
08:32:17 <BSK> And just like Ford, stuck in a one-track mold and didn't roll with the changing times...
08:33:13 <Time for BH> Ford seems to have survived well.
08:34:07 <BSK> Once they started making other models than the Model T - which Henry Ford resisted doing.
08:34:10 <Kevin L™> Amazing how many big people from other car companies came from Ford.
08:36:26 <BSK> Similarly, all the software engineers at what was once Macromedia (who developed Flash & Shockwave) are now all with other companies. My uncle was one of them.
08:36:37 <BSK> He ended up at Apple developing Final Cut.
08:41:22 <Kevin L™> Corporate histories can be a lot of fun
08:44:58 <Time for BH> All those people are scaring the bees.
08:44:58 <ynpvisitor999®> Indy
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08:45:27 <Dave from B™> of course
08:46:10 <Time for BH> What, you have to go to the airport and pick up Lobster?
08:46:57 <Jeff in CT> Almost within a 3 hour window :D
08:47:44 <Dave from B™> :D Jeff
08:47:54 <Dave from B™> It always waits until my window is closed
08:48:12 <Kevin L™> Just like SB
08:48:18 <Time for BH> My windows was tighter. Just was hoping it would not go late like 19 hours.
08:49:32 <fishynp> FYI, those white cylinders that you can see up on Geyser Hill off the boardwalk are seismometers we put in to monitor the area.
08:50:02 <Kevin L™> It will be interesting to see what you find.
08:50:08 <ynpvisitor999®> me too
08:50:31 <ynpvisitor999®> especially around Pump-Doublet area
08:50:35 <Time for BH> I thought they were satellite targets for monitoring the bulge.
08:50:59 <ynpvisitor999®> ah, something for theoridiots to fantasize about
08:51:09 <fishynp> Doublet is really acting different. The back pool seems to me to be much more active than I remember.
08:52:20 <ynpvisitor999®> I was rather surprised Aurum was able to stick to a tight 2h15m interval for some time following Ear's eruption
08:52:31 <Kevin L™> Have you looked at Aurum?
08:52:43 <ynpvisitor999®> makes me wonder if an influx of water caused this
08:53:01 <Kevin L™> Wondering if the side vents were still active.
08:53:11 <fishynp> we have a seismometer right next to Aurum as well.
08:53:34 <Kevin L™> :)
08:53:40 <fishynp> this seems like the wrong time of year to have an influx of water......
08:54:24 <BSK> Some sub-surface changes that changed flow leading to an influx into those "pipes?"
08:54:29 <Time for BH> Just need a crack in the rock
08:55:04 <ynpvisitor999®> exchange of function - either of water or heat (or both)
08:55:12 <Kevin L™> It is hard to see below the surface. Lot of factors to consider.
08:55:43 <Time for BH> Need to put one of those white cans next to Giant. That way when the water rolls it, people will be able to see for sure when Giant goes.
08:55:47 <ynpvisitor99> Is that little cub
08:55:58 <BSK> Yup - Little Cub
08:55:59 <Kevin L™> yes
08:56:00 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if there was some kind of (micro)earthquake nearby in the couple of hours before Ear Spring began its eruption
08:56:00 <Jeff in CT> Its a battle of the squirts
08:56:59 <Dave from B™> I'm going to ask for the third time in the last 24 hours.......
08:57:29 <Time for BH> If Split Cone, we could have a trifecta.
08:57:47 <Dave from B™> OF has done a short interval at least twice after a long duration since the GH event. Is this unusual? What has average interval done since the event?
08:58:38 <fishynp> 999, nothing that we were able to detect and locate.
09:01:01 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
09:01:11 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks fishynp
09:01:21 <Time for BH> I predict BH this Indy.
09:01:28 <ynpvisitor999®> haha
09:01:32 <Time for BH> Nothing yet
09:01:40 <Time for BH> weeeeeeee
09:01:44 <Kevin L™> Rainbow
09:01:55 <Jeff in CT> Very scenic
09:01:56 <BSK> rainbow faint, but there
09:02:15 <ynpvisitor...> Better to be lucky than good once again!
09:02:20 <Kevin L™> More to the right
09:03:02 <BSK> good rainbow now. :)
09:03:03 <sparekitty> not much makes me happier than randomly happening on a BH WITH RAINBOWSS
09:03:48 <Jeff in CT> THis is what us landscape photographers dream about
09:04:04 <Time for BH> Walking up on Fountain is up there.
09:04:06 <Kevin L™> Contrast and rainbows.
09:04:11 <Jeff in CT> Except I would have had BW film with me
09:04:12 <BSK> Yup. Contrast, foreground light, rainbow...
09:04:33 <GE ©> wow
09:04:49 <Kevin L™> Film? Your flip phone doesn't have a camera?
09:04:59 <Jeff in CT> Go thing my 1:00 pm meeting is late :D
09:05:29 <ynpvisitor...> Film is something that coats domes
09:05:35 <ynpvisitor999®> and Dave, based on OF data from 15 July 2018 and today, it seems OF has hardly changed its intervals. If it did change, I doubt the average interval will be more than 1 or 2 minutes less than the average before Ear Spring's eruption
09:06:12 <Kevin L™> Wonder if the OF customers got a rainbow.
09:06:25 <Time for BH> Has it become less 'faithful'?
09:06:58 <GE ©> back to wqork for me--bye to all
09:07:01 <Time for BH> Seems like this year it has had a lot of less then spectacular eruptions.
09:07:10 <ynpvisitor999®> bye GE
09:07:52 <Dave from B™> Thanks, DG
09:09:07 <Time for BH> Well, enjoy what ever is next.
09:09:17 <ynpvisitor999®> I don't think OF has become less faithful since the Geyser Hill events. It's still one of the better predictable geysers around
09:10:27 <Dave from B™> Well, we know it has erupted outside its window at least twice since then
09:13:18 <Dave from B™> Is there an easy way to compare actual OF eruptnio time to prediction?
09:13:50 <ynpvisitor999®> one way would be to enter the prediction as comment with the entry
09:14:17 <ynpvisitor999®> (which I do since I've entered the 1992 OFVCL-EV)
09:17:28 <Kevin L™> OF
09:17:41 <Kevin L™> Hoping for another rainbow.
09:18:18 <ynpvisitor999®> rainbow
09:18:24 <ynpvisitor999®> albeit brief
09:18:46 <BSK> I didn't blink at the wrong time, so I saw it.
09:18:51 <ynpvisitor999®> nice static
09:18:52 <Kevin L™> Wimpy OF
09:19:15 <ynpvisitor999®> I do know this will be either a medium or a long
09:19:24 <BSK> Yup - but wind is decapitating it.
09:22:09 <ynpvisitor999®> Fountain-Morning dual 0926 ns
09:22:13 <ynpvisitor999®> Fountain 85m+
09:22:22 <Kevin L™> :)
09:23:55 <Dave from B™> Woooooohooooo
09:24:08 <J. Meitnerium> That's a video I'd like to see
09:24:14 <ynpvisitor999®> GHP 1122 ie
09:24:37 <Kevin L™> Sounds like they were at Great Fountain. :(
09:25:30 <ynpvisitor999®> we missed an Aurum during Indicator
09:25:55 <Kevin L™> That is 2 days in a row. :P
09:26:29 <ynpvisitor999®> must be Kevin's fault :)
09:28:56 <ynpvisitor999®> so, that brings the tally up to F&M 22, SB 21, Giant 17, Morning 8
09:29:48 <Dave from B™> Morning is getting closer!
09:39:29 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
09:43:00 <Kevin L™> Breaking out the NoDoz.
09:48:08 <BSK> I was in the needing NoDoz sort of state yesterday when OF caught me by surprise going some 30 minutes early.
09:49:44 <Kevin L™> I hate it when that happens.
09:50:19 <BSK> It was good timing. Nothing else going on...
10:25:41 <BSK> Good catch
10:25:53 <Eric> Is that GHG17?
10:26:16 <Kevin L™> Could be
10:26:27 <Eric> Sorry, just switched tabs to here and wasn't sure what that eruption was
10:26:33 <Kevin L™> Might be Doublet
10:26:41 <Eric> That looks like pump location
10:27:02 <Dave from B™> Doublet and 17 should be on this side of bw
10:27:03 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe as Bill if he can put an arrow pointing to GHG-17 on the closed off section
10:27:07 <ynpvisitor999®> ask*
10:28:17 <BSK> IT did look like it was on far side of boardwalk to me...
10:30:32 <Eric> apparently I cannot share a measurement with google maps, but doublet and ghg17 are on the opposite side of the bw from the cam
10:31:27 <Eric> If you draw a straight line from the camera to doublet, you will see that double is about directly aligned with pump, just further back.
10:31:42 <ynpvisitor97> I thought 17 was on the same side. It is on the same side as Doublet pool
10:31:43 <Eric> double = doublet
10:31:55 <ynpvisitor98> You see the small pole? There is GHG-17
10:32:06 <ynpvisitor97> that is why people can see 17 from Arrowhead
10:32:18 <ynpvisitor97> without any bw interference
10:32:39 <Eric> Yes, but from our perspective, doublet is on the other side of the BW
10:33:05 <ynpvisitor97> you mean the BH bw?
10:33:11 <ynpvisitor98> it is,Eric
10:33:28 <ynpvisitor98> no, sponge bw
10:34:30 <Eric> Here is a screenshot showing alignment:
10:34:38 <Kevin L™> Not a fun place Betty
10:34:51 <Eric> The measurement is a straight line from the camera
10:35:04 <Eric> Hi Betty, hope you have a safe trip.
10:35:32 <Betty(McCarran)> At least I have internet, better than in a tunnel
10:35:34 <ynpvisitor97> got it, thanks so much Eric. I was way off perspective
10:35:35 <Eric> Also doublet is almost 2000k ft away from the webcam
10:36:07 <ynpvisitor97> Betty is traveling again?
10:36:09 <Eric> So the distances really compress and are very difficult to see when zoomed.
10:36:20 <ynpvisitor97> I thought she just got home
10:36:22 <Betty(McCarran)> yes, home now
10:36:42 <ynpvisitor97> Is that your last name?
10:37:19 <Betty(McCarran)> i went to Italy 3 weeks before my US trip 😊👍🏼
10:37:45 <Betty(McCarran)> No, i‘m At the airport
10:39:20 <ynpvisitor97> got it
10:39:53 <ynpvisitor97> last day above 60 for a while perhaps
10:41:34 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Eric. I knew 17 was on same side as Doublet but I screwed up the camera sightline
10:42:28 <Eric> Yep, they "appear" on the other side from our view, due to the BW turn.
10:42:58 <Eric> It looks like pump, doublet and GHG17 all align from our view
10:44:28 <ynpvisitor999®> I think this will be roughly our view on the Doublet-Pump area from the new cam position:
10:44:47 <ynpvisitor999®> (if it double-posted, it didn't show up for me when I pressed enter the first time)
10:46:31 <Eric> I think you are right DG
10:46:45 <Eric> I only see a single entry
10:47:45 <J. Meitnerium> Short illustrated article about the stuff that Ear Spring coughed up (if people haven't seen it already)
10:48:01 <Eric> I don't know if you Care DG, but that photo does leak your full name :-D
10:49:52 <ynpvisitor999®> I only see the first letter of my name on there?
10:50:03 <Eric> Click photo details, Owner
10:50:36 <ynpvisitor999®> well, I guess I can't go back now :D
10:50:47 <Eric> haha :-D
10:53:11 <ynpvisitor999®> it amuses me Ear Spring coughed up an ear-shaped plastic object
10:53:17 <Dave from B™> So, we can follow cars around the parking lot when we get bored?
10:53:26 <ynpvisitor999®> I guess so
10:53:41 <BSK> I can think of better things to do when bored.
10:53:48 <Jeff in CT> fyi, we are now entering the 5.9 hr Lion window ;)
10:53:52 <Dave from B™> On Sept 15, you would have seen me take 20 trips around the parking lot until I finally got a spot
10:54:12 <Jeff in CT> What is with the funnel and clamp Ear Spring sprung?
10:54:23 <Dave from B™> Jeff, your window is closer to a barn door!:D
10:55:01 <ynpvisitor999®> I think my SB window is closer to a VAB door rather than an actual window :)
10:55:57 <Dave from B™> DG, is that an airplane hanger door?
10:55:58 <Kevin L™> Dave uses airplane hangar doors.
10:56:07 <Dave from B™> :D:D
10:56:15 <Dave from B™> That is weird
10:56:33 <ynpvisitor999®> VAB = Vehicle Assembly Building
10:56:55 <ynpvisitor999®> the one on NASA's Kennedy Space Center
10:56:57 <ynpvisitor...> Link to the article with photos is terrific. Thanks Elemental Guy
10:57:00 <Jeff in CT> Hey, numbers don't lie
10:57:13 <ynpvisitor999®> true, very true
10:57:57 <ynpvisitor999®> tall
10:58:08 <Dave from B™> Kevin, we've been hanging around together for too long
10:58:33 <Jeff in CT> Correction: we are now in the 5.9 hour Lion barn door
10:59:45 <Eric> But people who use numbers lie :-P
11:00:10 <Eric> I believe the Dallas cowboy stadium doors are even bigger.
11:02:09 <J. Meitnerium> You're welcome. Kinda sad to see a piece of a concrete block in there. I mean, who dragged it all the way out there to toss it in?
11:02:56 <ynpvisitor33> that has been discussed - boardwalk support
11:03:03 <Eric> The Dallas cowboy doors are 120x180ft
11:05:17 <Dave from B™> Sorry....getting a mental picture of a cinder block in the air blowing into Ear was REALLY windy that day:D
11:06:22 <BSK> I was surprised only one pacifier came out.
11:06:59 <Dave from B™> The other pacifier is still stuck in its mouth
11:07:42 <Kevin L™> I don't think a pacifier is something you want to lose in the park.
11:09:32 <BSK> Any infant parent of a pacifier dependent tot that only has one pacifier is a glutton for punishment.
11:09:51 <J. Meitnerium> Ok about the cinder block, makes sense
11:10:28 <Dave from B™> haha BSK. Yep, we had 3 or 4 at all times
11:10:48 <Kevin L™> And that still isn't enough!
11:11:13 <Dave from B™> The clips to an article of clothing really helped
11:15:00 <Kevin L™> Think my Banff trip will wait until Spring.
11:15:36 <Dave from B™> Are you still allergic to the white stuff?
11:15:57 <Kevin L™> Yes I am
11:18:56 <Dave from B™> Time to begin Fitness for the year. See you all in about 2 hours.
11:19:10 <ynpvisitor999®> good luck Dave
11:19:38 <Kevin L™> Have an emt nearby
11:19:46 <Dave from B™> Hope to taste sweat for the first time in months
11:20:03 <ynpvisitor999®> should we call an ambulance in advance?
11:21:52 <Jeff in CT> Better than the last time I was in Banff - halfway up a mountain and got hit with a sudden lightning storm - had to run downhill back to the car, about 2 miles
11:22:20 <Kevin L™> Those are scary
11:23:56 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion ini
11:25:31 <Jeff in CT> Lion in Window! (only 2.5 hours early). Guess my barndoor was sufficiently wide open
11:25:32 <BSK> I've been playing on Google Earth looking at orientation from this spot and from OFI. The change in perspective is going to take a lot of re-orientation.
11:27:21 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll be missing the view to the back basin
11:27:29 <ynpvisitor999®> at least in default view
11:44:56 <Betty(McCarran)> So will this cam be shut down?
11:45:06 <ynpvisitor59> Count is 22 21 17 8 with another Morning today
11:45:38 <Betty(McCarran)> Yeah , morning:-)
11:45:48 <ynpvisitor999®> I hope it'll stay, Betty. Convert it to static and remove the VEC static
11:45:57 <ynpvisitor59> F&M SB Giant Morning
12:01:25 <ynpvisitor33> .
12:02:10 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy ie
12:02:29 <Kevin L™> 1401
12:21:15 <Kevin L™> OF 1420
12:21:20 <ynpvisitor999®> and another lovely short interval for OF
12:21:40 <ynpvisitor999®> hopefully this means it'll be speeding up a bit soon
12:23:25 <ynpvisitor999®> would be fun to have OF roughly every 1h20m-1h25m rather than every 1h35m
12:23:30 <ynpvisitor97> it's interesting that since GH17 was named it has not been seen much
12:24:05 <ynpvisitor999®> that's because that boardwalk has been closed off and most of the gazers have left already
12:24:25 <ynpvisitor999®> that's a con of major changes happening late into the season
12:24:33 <ynpvisitor97> Marmot cave is being posted.
12:25:06 <ynpvisitor97> LC, Lion...I think it is not as active
12:26:15 <ynpvisitor999®> LC is roughly as active as ever, though it's not being reported due to its small size. Lion has had relatively long series as of late, which also explains the rather long series-series interval. Maybe NG plays a (small) role in that as well
12:43:30 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
12:44:52 <ynpvisitor999®> LC
12:56:49 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm off for today. Enjoy watching SC, Geyser Hill and the treeline
12:57:04 <Kevin L™> Knight
12:59:01 <J. Meitnerium> Bishop
13:10:37 <Dave from B™> Pawn
13:11:02 <Kevin L™> no caps here
13:11:52 <Kevin L™> He will show up soon.
13:28:13 <Eric> So grand imminent at 15:34?
13:28:56 <Kevin L™> We hope
13:33:33 <Eric> ETA 60 seconds....
13:35:05 <Dave from B™> 1536
13:35:15 <Eric> 15:35
13:35:22 <Kevin L™> He survived
13:35:27 <Eric> by like 4 seconds :-P
13:35:38 <Dave from B™> Feeling great right now...ask me again tomorrow
13:36:25 <Eric> ohhh, in basin time 15:34 :-D
13:36:40 <Eric> Woot.
13:39:18 <Betty(McCarran)> :-)
13:39:52 <Kevin L™> About ready to board?
13:45:08 <Kevin L™> Strange 2nd
13:46:42 <Kevin L™> Long duration.
13:50:53 <ynpvisitor87> Who messed up BH. I was told it would not go till this afternon.
13:51:34 <Kevin L™> It did a long
13:55:34 <Kevin L™> OF with a Lion kicker.
13:55:57 <ynpvisitor87> lion
13:56:39 <Kevin L™> Short Lion
13:57:20 <LindaG> Leave some action for me kevin.
13:57:40 <ynpvisitor87> Hope it counts. Was not much longer then the one the other day that was not counted
13:57:49 <Kevin L™> Aurum is due.
13:58:03 <Kevin L™> Controls released
13:58:15 <LindaG> Ok
13:58:47 <ynpvisitor87> Go out and wave at Betty as she leaves.
14:02:04 <Kevin L™> If you want to wave, her plane is Condor cfg063
14:02:15 <Kevin L™> Virtual radar.
14:03:11 <Kevin L™> It is on the tarmak by Terminal 3 right now.
14:14:36 <Eric> Thanks Kevin, now I can track Betty too :-
14:14:39 <Eric> :-D
14:14:58 <Kevin L™> About to do takeoff roll.
14:15:12 <Dave from B™> Isn't that called stalking?:)
14:15:47 <Eric> Yep, was just looking she is turning the corner ontot the runway
14:16:39 <Kevin L™> There she goes
14:16:42 <Eric> 92mph!
14:16:51 <Eric> 150!
14:17:05 <Dave from B™> And, there goes Lion
14:17:08 <Eric> 200+ :-D
14:17:16 <Eric> A send off geyser
14:17:39 <Eric> Well, she is now 3000ft in the air...that was fun :-D
14:18:27 <Eric> She is about ready to head over you house KKevin, better run outside and wave.
14:18:34 <LindaG> LC?
14:18:45 <Eric> yep
14:20:15 <ynpvisitor97> I thought Betty said earlier she was home now
14:22:47 <Kevin L™> I watched it fly by.
14:24:49 <Dave from B™> She'll be home in 16 hours...I'm guessing
14:25:17 <Kevin L™> Probably or a bit sooner.
14:25:38 <Dave from B™> Non stop?
14:26:41 <ynpvisitor97> did she get any of the big 3?
14:26:53 <Dave from B™> She saw part of SB
14:27:06 <ynpvisitor97> I'm guessing no on F & M
14:27:17 <ynpvisitor97> oh steam phase that day it went early
14:27:55 <ynpvisitor97> what is that steam now? Oblong?
14:28:07 <Kevin L™> Sent you an email Dave & Eric
14:33:46 <ynpvisitor33> what and where is Inverted?
14:37:41 <Eric> daiisy
14:37:41 <Eric> ie
14:45:03 <ynpvisitor97> 33, go to GT and click on Inverted, then go to links, and it shows a map of geyser hill. You can find it there.
14:47:09 <ynpvisitor33> it is not in the latest version of Geysers of Yell
14:50:51 <Dave from B™> LC ie
14:51:42 <Kevin L™> This may help 33
14:56:10 <Kevin L™> Hey Eric, there is a U2 on my radar now.
14:56:12 <Eric> I believe inverted is right in this area:,-110.8306835,3a,18y,66.71h,82.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNDWBfaPBIhajAywp6c-cFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
14:56:35 <Eric> You can zoom out and look around to get your bearings.
14:57:35 <Eric> Flying at 60k ft :-D
14:57:46 <Eric> Heading up toward me
15:00:25 <Kevin L™> The one labeled B736 with no flight number is the Area 51 plane.
15:01:25 <Dave from B™> What's an area 51 plane?
15:02:08 <Kevin L™> It is the plane you don't see that flies employees to area 51 and back.
15:14:09 <Dave from B™> So, it disappears on the radar into thin air?
15:16:25 <Kevin L™> Try walking up to the guard gate at McCarran that it flies from and see what happens. YOU may disappear into thin air!
15:19:44 <Dave from B™> Are you speaking from experience?:)
15:20:46 <Kevin L™> They had a news group try it and were told in no uncertain terms to turn off the camera ans leave. Those boys have no sense of humor.
15:21:36 <Dave from B™> There are certain people you don't mess with...most of them have 3 letter abbreviations
15:24:10 <Kevin L™> My kid and his friend set up a camp near the border of it. Got a visit from some Gray Eagles at high speed. They packed and left.
15:26:59 <ynpvisitor103> that was some preplay burst
15:32:20 <Kevin L™> I miss the wind speed info
15:35:36 <Dave from B™> Time to help close the market. Have a great evening everyone!
15:36:11 <Kevin L™> knight
15:56:26 <Kevin L™> Eric, What resolution should I use for standard HDTV when converting video?
15:59:12 <Kevin L™> I have a 1920x1080. Is that over doing it?
16:05:07 <GO GIANT> Yeah for Morning, I wonder how many we have missed?
16:32:33 <Kevin L™> hi graham
16:46:18 <GO GIANT> hey Kevin
16:46:27 <GO GIANT> CAPS got their rings today
16:46:38 <GO GIANT> and raise the banner tomorrow
16:56:55 <ynpvisitor78> of
17:05:42 <Kevin L™> I guess we get ours next year.
17:07:11 <Kevin L™> That could not have played out better for the NHL last year. An expansion team vs a team that had not got the cup in 44 years of trying. It was an awesome combination.
17:07:36 <LindaG> Daisy
17:07:47 <Kevin L™> Even fans of neither team wanted to see who won.
19:07:01 <ynpvisitor7> Who turned out the lights?
19:07:48 <ynpvisitor7> Guess they need to reprogram when it goes into night mode?