Showing logs for date: 2018-11-09
04:21:56 <ynpvisitor43> Good morning!
04:24:02 <Rice> morning
04:32:21 <ynpvisitor12> Nice sunrise over Mt Washburn NE Static
04:58:16 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone!
05:02:18 <ynpvisitor43> Very cold this morning! Brrrrr!
05:03:41 <ynpvisitor55> Going to be an exciting morning. Gray on gray is my favorite motif. Good morning Dave ...™
05:05:23 <ynpvisitor47> Lake and Electric Peak cams are nice
05:05:37 <ynpvisitor94> 3° in Thermopolis
05:07:41 <ynpvisitor94> The snowkid is a survivor :)
05:08:07 <Dave from B™> He likes +5F:)
05:09:20 <ynpvisitor43> OF
05:10:20 <ynpvisitor94> I wonder if the kids Linda saw building it know that it is still there?
05:10:34 <ynpvisitor999®> brr... Hopefully it warms a bit soon
05:12:38 <ynpvisitor47> down to 3F now
05:12:58 <Kat> I would love that weather!!
05:13:15 <Dave from B™> 43, you can have it
05:13:29 <Kat> LOL
05:15:42 <Kat> Lets hope we have some clearing this morning!
05:16:02 <ynpvisitor47> did Mara break BH?
05:17:20 <ynpvisitor94> Kat type /quit enter then /join enter then your name will change
05:17:58 <ynpvisitor94> yay
05:19:36 <Kat> Thanks Eric tried to explain how to change my name earlier this week, guess I wrote down the wrong thing!
05:19:50 <Kat> Somedays I wonder about myself!
05:20:41 <Kat> Washburn Southwest view is awesome!
05:21:08 <ynpvisitor999®> it's pretty indeed
05:21:27 <ynpvisitor94> You were doing it correctly, Gt sometimes does not like to change unless you quit then join
05:21:39 <ynpvisitor12> Clear air everywhere but UGB :(
05:21:40 <Kat> Thanks!
05:22:12 <ynpvisitor999®> it seems USGS' cam shows steam drifting into view
05:23:21 <Kat> Betting we won't see Daisy's next go this morning..
05:24:17 <Kat> Love the little snowman!
05:24:56 <ynpvisitor47> nice DG. wonder if thats Lone PIne?
05:27:02 <ynpvisitor999®> wouldn't be surprised
05:30:41 <Dave from B™> What cam would show Lone Pine? Isn't that at West Thumb?
05:31:36 <ynpvisitor47> yes, lake cam had thick steam blowing to the lake on the right
05:31:40 <ynpvisitor47> still does
05:32:09 <ynpvisitor999®> I just need to figure out where the cam is located
05:32:41 <ynpvisitor47> looks like an eruption of something
05:33:28 <LindaG> Morning
05:33:43 <Dave from B™> Ask Eric. I think he figured out where it most likely is located....behind Lake nps area below elephant back
05:35:01 <Dave from B™> Morning Linda
05:35:13 <Kat> That is very different on Lake
05:35:34 <Kat> Hey Linda, good to talk to you yesterday!
05:35:41 <LindaG> I see no Bee, something to look forward to.
05:36:08 <Dave from B™> I think those are just low hanging clouds on Lake cam
05:36:27 <LindaG> Good to talk to you!
05:36:33 <Kat> Linda, that would be nice!
05:37:46 <ynpvisitor47> Could be Dave but its a dense straight line ......
05:37:51 <LindaG> Lake looked similar yesterday but today more dramatic
05:38:09 <ynpvisitor74> I think the UGS cam is west/northwest of Lake Hotel.
05:38:16 <ynpvisitor74> USGS...
05:38:51 <ynpvisitor74> ...and someone already wrote the same thing above :D
05:39:38 <ynpvisitor47> way north per NPS site if its still accurate
05:39:40 <ynpvisitor47> The camera view is south-southeast over Yellowstone Lake from the cell phone tower near Fishing Bridge. Stevenson Island is visible within the lake on the right. The view extends down the Southeast Arm between the Promontory (low ridge rising from the lake) and the eastern shore. Above the shore, the acid-bleached Brimstone Basin remains white even when the snows have melted. The Absaroka Mountain
05:40:57 <Kat> Sunlight coming to the basin here..Yeah!
05:42:01 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... doesn't look like it's anything from West Thumb. In fact, the webcam is located at Lake according to USGS' monitoring map
05:42:55 <ynpvisitor74> Can it be fog created by turbulence after the wind passes Gull Point?
05:44:47 <Kat> There's fog along the shoreline too just above the trees
05:45:15 <ynpvisitor47> yeah agree its fog bank. I thought the cam was closer to W Thumb but it looks liek its far away
05:45:31 <Dave from B™> As the crow flies it is at least 12 miles to West Thumb from the cam location
05:47:32 <Kat> But all in all it's a nice view!
05:47:53 <ynpvisitor999®> agreed
05:47:59 <ynpvisitor5> interesting conversation!
05:48:21 <ynpvisitor5> it's a BIG lake, for sure
05:50:05 <Bill> Morning
05:50:27 <Kat> Morning!
05:50:59 <Dave from B™> Morning Bill...staying inside today?
05:51:13 <Bill> Yup. The rest of the team is down at OF though
05:51:42 <Bill> I'll be down wed-thurs of next week
05:51:51 <Kat> Frosty morning!
05:52:03 <Bill> I think they wrap up on friday, and the roads will likely be hard closed shortly after that until snowmobile season
05:53:06 <Dave from B™> Any word on when Century Link from Jackson will be activating the new cam?
05:53:54 <Bill> No idea. I'm not in that particular loop.
05:54:32 <Kat> Nothing more yet...waiting for more info!
05:56:49 <ynpvisitor999®> oh, Bill, not sure if you're aware of it already, but Steamboat is still down. The rest seems to function fine :)
05:57:33 <Bill> Yeah there's a bigger problem with Steamboat. I think it's the panel connector going through the pelican case we have out there. I'm going early next week to pull it out for the season.
05:58:19 <Bill> We replaced the logger, but it's not compatible with our current radio system. If i can fix the old one fairly quickly i may be able to re-deploy it before there's too much snow at NGB
05:58:47 <ynpvisitor999®> I see. Thanks :)
06:07:31 <ynpvisitor97> The hot pools have been decorated for the season https://imgur.com/a/fZWjdYB :)
06:08:22 <ynpvisitor999®> bubblers be bubbling...
06:09:46 <ynpvisitor94> Bee within an hour or so!
06:11:14 <Kat> Hoping for it!
06:11:30 <ynpvisitor94> Stay tuned to this station for you will see a BEE
06:13:48 <Kat> 94 LOL
06:13:57 <Jimbo Argon> Seriously cold mornings
06:15:37 <Kat> Looks like the researchers are in the basin...
06:30:33 <Kat> Looks like Solitary
06:30:36 <Dave from B™> Almost time for Grand to refog the basin
06:30:55 <Kat> Yep
06:32:07 <Dave from B™> Giantess boils can look big this time of year
06:32:20 <ynpvisitor94> last Grand interval 6h 50min longest in quite some time.
06:32:42 <Dave from B™> I noticed that. 3 intervals over 6 hours in a row!
06:32:48 <Dave from B™> It seems funny saying that.
06:33:09 <Steph> I'm tellin ya'll now, that if Giantess goes off, I don't care if Yellowstone is closed, I'm gonna ninja in and see it. :p;)
06:33:56 <Dave from B™> Emergency snowcoach charter, Steph?
06:34:06 <Dave from B™> As long as it is after Dec 15
06:34:14 <Steph> Yep, whatever it takes. :)
06:36:28 <Dave from B™> It's fun to see so many new faces in the room
06:38:12 <Dave from B™> CC must have been doing some recruiting:)
06:40:17 <Jimbo Argon> OF is going to look good
06:41:27 <Dave from B™> Jimbo, I just found out that one of my Boston vendors was babysat by next door neighbor Bobby Orr on a regular basis.
06:41:59 <Jimbo Argon> That's a good entry on the life history
06:42:34 <Jimbo Argon> Did I ever mention that I met Bobby Hull and Stan Mikita (Chicago Blackhawks) at an autograph signing when I was 4?
06:42:51 <Dave from B™> Fun
06:43:36 <Dave from B™> My biggest childhood sports memory is walking on the dodger infield for Photo day getting pictures with players and coaches
06:43:44 <Jimbo Argon> One of my brushes with fame
06:43:45 <ynpvisitor94> OF 0743
06:43:54 <ynpvisitor94> Nope
06:44:01 <Jimbo Argon> Cool Dave
06:45:23 <Dave from B™> Yep. fun times
06:46:01 <Dave from B™> Jimbo, where did your daughter end up going to college?
06:46:58 <Jimbo Argon> Maryland - son is at Ball State, playing on club hockey team. One more at local community college
06:48:42 <Dave from B™> I thought you had a daughter who played soccer in high school a few years ago
06:49:06 <Jimbo Argon> That's the one at Maryland. She's still playing intramural soccer
06:49:22 <Dave from B™> I thought she was close to home
06:49:51 <Jimbo Argon> I'm in Maryland. Did you think I was somewhere else?
06:50:21 <Dave from B™> Yes, I meant that makes sense...I thought she went somewhere close
06:50:56 <Jimbo Argon> :thumbsup: sometimes too close - she wanted me to bring her an envelope to mail in her absentee ballot on Monday.
06:51:19 <Dave from B™> haha
06:51:44 <Jimbo Argon> She's in a house with four other girls - none of them had a single envelope
06:52:00 <Steph> is that indy?
06:52:26 <Dave from B™> I don't think so
06:52:31 <Steph> dang
06:53:17 <Rice> Nice to Echinus Logger working again
06:54:15 <Rice> Still one of my facvorite geysers, My first "large" geyser as a kid
06:54:35 <Steph> Lucky! I've never seen it.
06:54:40 <ynpvisitor5> year ago right now it was erupting! Who woulda thunk Steamboat would follow
06:54:47 <Kat> OF
06:55:50 <Rice> What is up with all those small eruptions last year, I was looking to see when it erupted last. I dont rememeber any of that data
06:57:25 <ynpvisitor55> Once again static provided the gems.
06:57:57 <ynpvisitor999®> small eruptions from what geyser last year? (I'm not quite following the conversation)
06:59:21 <Rice> Echinus, lots of last fall
06:59:54 <Rice> It erupted over 100times between Nov 3 and Dec 3
07:00:21 <Rice> Seems like thta would have been big news
07:00:31 <ynpvisitor5> why do you think they were small? duration?
07:01:17 <Rice> short duration instead of small, how is that?
07:01:26 <ynpvisitor5> it was news - lots of fall gazers got to see it. Dan S wrote it up in the Sput, Janet Jones, Rocco, MA , Udo, lots of folks saw it more than once3
07:02:05 <ynpvisitor5> Rice, you described them as small, I wasn't sure what that meant
07:02:59 <Rice> I guess I missed it, wow...
07:03:17 <ynpvisitor113> bipeds
07:04:22 <ynpvisitor5> I would take a "small" eruption of Echinus anytime. :thumbsup:
07:04:40 <ynpvisitor999®> Echinus' 2017 active phase actually began on October 13, 2017, when a single eruption occurred. It then began playing again on October 16
07:05:16 <Steph> It looks like about every 2 hours!
07:05:22 <ynpvisitor999®> Those intervals were almost always around the 2h mark and observed durations were 3-4 minutes
07:06:43 <ynpvisitor999®> and actually, intervals became slightly shorter as time progressed, until there was a break in activity, lasting either hours or days
07:07:20 <ynpvisitor113> I used to watch Echinus many years ago, the"bleacher seats' were always full with excited gazers :)
07:08:08 <ynpvisitor5> looks like if you got there you could see 4 in a day with the daylight hours at the time
07:10:12 <Dave from B™> 113, those were fun times
07:10:15 <Dave from B™> Morning Kevin
07:11:16 <Dave from B™> I remember when noone showed up on here on a Friday. It is "crowded" today:)
07:11:41 <Jimbo Argon> I saw Echinus in the bleachers
07:12:17 <Kevin L™🌵> Morning
07:12:21 <Dave from B™> I don't know for sure but I would guess it was the first largest geyser I saw besides OF
07:12:29 <Dave from B™> large*
07:12:32 <ynpvisitor5> ynpvisitor999®, how many eruptions did you use to get the full picture. I keep adding more and haven't found the start yet!
07:12:49 <Dave from B™> It was hard to get my dad out of a car and on a ttail
07:12:52 <Dave from B™> trail*
07:13:15 <ynpvisitor5> Got it - it was about 275 eruptions
07:13:16 <ynpvisitor999®> http://geysertimes.org/geyser.php?id=Echinus&n=300
07:13:44 <ynpvisitor5> thanks - just tried that one myself!
07:14:05 <ynpvisitor113> same here, at times the area was very crowded
07:14:58 <ynpvisitor113> first large geyser that I saw also
07:16:01 <Dave from B™> Even if SB went back to sleep, something needs to be done to have more parking at Norris...something more than parking along the road
07:16:22 <Kat> I saw Echinus too, in 1989, I remembered bleachers but could not recall which geyser basin! Thanks , there's a you tube video of it July 1989
07:17:55 <Kat> Wow - it's 11 degrees now!
07:21:53 <Kat> They're all over the basin - hard to avoid
07:22:10 <Kevin L™🌵> Like ants
07:22:39 <Kat> :)
07:23:51 <Kat> I would stay down basin but can't see a darn thing!
07:25:50 <Kat> Sorry about the view!
07:25:53 <LindaG> They do get around
07:26:23 <Dave from B™> You can always check on cabin 200:)
07:26:42 <Kat> Can't focus anywhere without them in view!
07:27:06 <Kat> There you go!
07:27:48 <Kat> :lol:
07:27:50 <LindaG> I talked to CA and was told as long as we didnt zoom in on then it was ok because the park announced their presence
07:28:06 <ynpvisitor999®> If I recall correctly, Lone Star can be seen on the cam
07:28:28 <Dave from B™> It's a tough call....don't want to give crazies an idea that it is ok to walk anywhere
07:28:32 <ynpvisitor999®> not sure if that still counts, but you could try I guess
07:28:32 <ynpvisitor113> I am surprised that they asked for the camera to be down Basin when they were near Old Faithful, they were interested in having recordings of the camera stream to correlate their findings with the camera view, go figure?
07:28:51 <Dave from B™> Lone Star is not visible on the cam
07:29:04 <ynpvisitor84> Lone Star or Lone Pine?
07:29:16 <ynpvisitor999®> Lone Pine is at West Thumb, no chance you could see it here
07:29:28 <ynpvisitor> Interesting
07:29:44 <ynpvisitor999®> Lone Star is another geyser (actually a geyser basin with the namesake being Lone Star itself)
07:30:06 <LindaG> We need a bison or a bear to watch
07:31:10 <ynpvisitor5> what did I miss - why are you talking about Lone Star?
07:31:30 <Kat> It was my understanding that they would be out of view during OF window, but that we were to go down basin when they were in view. As Dave says don't need to give viewers the idea that walking off boardwalk is ok.
07:31:31 <Dave from B™> I'm not sure
07:32:42 <ynpvisitor> Why would any one walk off the boardwalk ?
07:33:27 <ynpvisitor5> the conpiracy nuts would find something to post with them out there
07:34:39 <Kat> I'll leave it on wide view, it's definitely not up close and personal!:)
07:35:01 <Kat> OMG
07:35:17 <sparekitty> what an amazing opportunity, to safely see the geysers close up!!
07:37:21 <ynpvisitor94> indy
07:38:07 <ynpvisitor94> .
07:38:09 <ynpvisitor94> .
07:38:10 <ynpvisitor94> .
07:38:15 <ynpvisitor94> .
07:38:37 <Dave from B™> woohoo
07:38:43 <Dave from B™> Do we need sa text sent?
07:39:27 <Dave from B™> I sent one
07:39:37 <Steph> I just got it! Thanks!
07:40:25 <Emily> Got the text tahnk you
07:40:52 <Dave from B™> yw Emily, Steph
07:41:05 <Steph> Everyone is going to be so excited!
07:41:19 <Kevin L™🌵> Finally, a daytime BH
07:41:30 <Eric> woot.....just got back from working out!
07:41:50 <Eric> Tell that researcher to get out of the way!
07:42:10 <Steph> I thought they waved at us...
07:42:30 <Eric> They might have when they got the txt :-D
07:42:42 <Eric> uhh, why aren't we pointing at BH?
07:43:18 <Steph> We can't show the researchers
07:43:30 <sparekitty> so we can't see :bee:?
07:43:35 <Emily> yup
07:43:39 <Eric> You can zoomm to bee without getting the researchers now
07:43:47 <Eric> that researcher moved
07:43:55 <Kevin L™🌵> I think for BH it would be OK.
07:44:18 <Eric> hahaha...or not :-P
07:45:12 <Kevin L™🌵> Far view is fine.
07:45:25 <sparekitty> thanks!!
07:45:50 <Eric> Perfect!
07:45:53 <Kevin L™🌵> At least we know OF won't block this one!
07:45:55 <Eric> Well placed cam op!
07:46:06 <Steph> That poor one researcher had to hold all the backpacks...
07:46:22 <sparekitty> i'd go and hold all the backpacks!
07:46:24 <Kevin L™🌵> He better watch for Ravens.
07:46:25 <Eric> I think with how many researchers there are in the basin, that is a tough task to not show them and see any geysers
07:47:52 <LindaG> Lol geez
07:48:05 <Eric> it's like a freeway out there
07:48:16 <Eric> BH
07:48:21 <Kevin L™🌵> Got Bee now to distract them
07:48:44 <Eric> Ahh, it's erupting because Dave is not here.
07:48:55 <Emily> bee
07:49:14 <Steph> YAY! It's so pretty!
07:49:30 <ynpvisitor94> Dave is here i yhink
07:49:30 <ynpvisitor55> Once again static great
07:49:47 <Kevin L™🌵> Great wind directio.
07:50:21 <Eric> They are not even watching BH :-(
07:50:24 <Emily> bye indee
07:50:30 <Steph> Right????!?!
07:50:32 <LindaG> Thats my 3rd bee this week😄
07:50:58 <Steph> Dude...
07:51:03 <ynpvisitor108> With all the fog, wind could have been awful.
07:51:24 <Eric> depression is very steamy too
07:51:27 <ynpvisitor56> maybe the wind will change and they'll notice it, BH (the boots on the ground)
07:52:31 <Kevin L™🌵> I bet BH is noisy without all that traffic.
07:52:35 <Teri> what are those cool vertical icy things on the ground; there's no grass there (?)
07:52:56 <LindaG> This may be a first
07:53:31 <Dave from B™> I'm here
07:53:45 <Emily> bee from bw at night us very oud
07:53:57 <Dave from B™> Teri, that looks like frosted grass
07:54:11 <Kevin L™🌵> I wonder if this cam has a mic.
07:54:20 <Eric> Did you get to see it dave?
07:54:24 <Teri> didn't notice grass that close during the summer, makes sense
07:54:51 <Eric> Yes, this cam has a mic, they just don't have it turned on
07:54:53 <ynpvisitor55> I thought this one was fun!
07:55:02 <Steph> Yes!
07:55:14 <Eric> Glad to see so much research going on!
07:55:23 <ynpvisitor55> !
07:55:54 <Dave from B™> Eric, I saw the finish. I was in my daily morning briefing with Taylor
07:56:34 <Emily> bee does not wait selling keyboard and sh
07:56:48 <Emily> fish
07:57:08 <Eric> I still don't think that is a sentence Emily :-P
07:57:25 <ynpvisitor94> The selling sh, made me laugh
07:57:47 <Emily> beehive does not wait for dave to sell keyboards and fish
07:58:21 <Emily> i typed from dave brand keyboard
07:58:33 <Steph> :lol::lol::lol:
07:58:49 <Steph> Good to see Bee back on ye old predictions list
07:58:52 <Dave from B™> fish sounds better than words beginning with sh
07:59:09 <ynpvisitor94> Dave must be a keyboard millionare :)
07:59:11 <Dave from B™> Emily is one of my most regular customers
07:59:14 <LindaG> Great job kat
07:59:19 <Steph> Coulda been shish
07:59:40 <Kat> Linda, Have fun! Thanks!!
07:59:52 <LindaG> Ok. I got it
08:00:16 <Dave from B™> So, I'm doing some volunteer work this morning. who here isn't subscribing to the Sput?
08:00:17 <Kevin L™🌵> Sushi?
08:01:00 <Dave from B™> If you're not, you need to. Great articles, pictures and a way to stay connected to the group
08:01:13 <Emily> I do have it
08:01:18 <Emily> I have to change address
08:01:27 <Steph> Me too, and I save them all for reference
08:02:00 <Teri> got the archive too; a few Transactions available for free DL at GT, very nice
08:02:40 <Dave from B™> Nice. Also, don't forget to join the Google Group...there is a link on this page
08:03:03 <Steph> Yes, and Bruce just sent a lot of Steamboat info today
08:03:32 <Teri> 6 Transactions available, links at the bottom of the page
08:03:33 <Teri> http://www.gosa.org/transactions.aspx
08:03:43 <Emily> I think I am still apart of that,albeit under a bizzare email but I dont necessarily I think Ive been getting the email
08:04:52 <Dave from B™> I bet gazing population increased by 10-15% this year with Steamboat active
08:05:35 <GO F&M> I was asking about the SB count mismatch since people have been counting down to the record number .... but what is the record number? Dunno
08:05:36 <Emily> I wonder. who is and isnt a gazer is such a muddy concept but I would think alot of people got involved who dont normally
08:06:27 <Steph> GO F&M, that's what Bruce was asking about too in the email.
08:06:30 <Dave from B™> Graham, did you look at GT notes from SB 1964? Were a couple of eruptions not listed inferred that year?
08:07:11 <Dave from B™> When did Norris museum seismo get installed?
08:07:15 <GO F&M> i didnt read the notes. good thing to check
08:07:56 <Dave from B™> Sorry I'm not more help.....when I don't have a business to run look out
08:12:01 <Dave from B™> Has anyone received the Oct sput yet?
08:12:21 <Dave from B™> via mail
08:12:37 <GO F&M> lots of notes from MA. i am sure she knows where the inferred reports are. Would be good to get them on GT as "Approximate" times
08:12:45 <GO F&M> i didnt get mine Dave
08:14:00 <Dave from B™> Yep. MA is the one to talk to
08:14:46 <Teri> I get it by email, Dave M sent it out 10/21
08:15:19 <Dave from B™> I'm not sure if Micah is here but there is a question of an additional Giant this year before the summer season started...I think in March. There was a did markers get replaced issue, I believe
08:15:39 <Dave from B™> I think Micah was investigating this?
08:16:28 <Dave from B™> Time for Lion to wakeup
08:16:50 <fishynp> Station YNM (Norris Museum) was first installed in 2012.
08:16:51 <ynpvisitor999®> NPS' website lists 29 recorded eruptions for 1964, which is also the record as of now
08:17:03 <GO F&M> i remember that Dave, not clear if one or two eruptions happened before the logs were replaced
08:17:24 <Dave from B™> fishynp, Thanks
08:17:42 <Dave from B™> So, eruptions before 2012 were easier to miss?
08:17:57 <GO F&M> DG - GT only has 27 though
08:18:35 <fishynp> SB major eruptions leave some pretty telltale signs. Not sure how many have been missed.
10:03:07 <ynpvisitor999®> AND WE'RE BACK!
10:03:16 <Eric> Yerp
10:03:33 <Kevin L™🌵> Nice.
10:03:35 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... may have gone a bit overboard with the caps there...
10:03:42 <Eric> Had a small server issue that needed to be resolved...but GT and chat are up and running again
10:03:57 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks!
10:04:57 <Dave from B™> We were having such great conversations this morning
10:05:11 <Dave from B™> Thanks Eric!!!!
10:05:19 <Kevin L™🌵> It did get quiet all of a sudden.
10:05:30 <Eric> BTW, fishynp, if you are still here..I think the interest in steamboat eruptions is triggered by a user who has created a genetic algorithm to detect SB eruptions from the seismo data. I think he mentioned his program found a few that were not logged.
10:08:21 <ynpvisitor5> that's interesting - when did this person say they occurred?
10:08:23 <ynpvisitor999®> from solely YNM data, or also YNR? It seems to me rather - how'd you say it - dubious any Steamboats have been missed since both seismos became operational. I wouldn't mind looking through the data and comparing them with seismic trace, though, as I find such things rather interesting
10:09:47 <ynpvisitor5> It would have to only be at night between seasons wouldn't it?
10:10:08 <ynpvisitor999®> pretty much
10:10:13 <ynpvisitor5> Or maybe daytime, between seasons, with NO travel
10:10:53 <ynpvisitor999®> more-or-less anytime between seasons without NPS personell present at Norris
10:11:05 <Eric> I hope they pop back into chat to discuss more...it's the user who logged the last GT E time
10:11:20 <ynpvisitor999®> Marmot Cave?
10:11:27 <Eric> right area
10:11:33 <Eric> nice steam cloud there
10:11:48 <ynpvisitor5> if they do, and you are here Eric - get a sample date and we can all investigate
10:13:08 <ynpvisitor112> Hey your back
10:14:14 <ynpvisitor999®> and speaking of investigating - does anyone know some geyser near YVO's Gray Lakes Tributary logger? https://geysertimes.org/note.php?id=10731
10:14:54 <ynpvisitor999®> I have never seen such spikes on that logger until probably a day or two-three before now
10:15:02 <ynpvisitor> Dave broke GT.
10:15:29 <LindaG> I had marmot cave at 2:11with depression
10:15:59 <LindaG> Sorry that would be 12:11
10:16:16 <Dave from B™> DG, that is a question for MA
10:16:18 <LindaG> Ungg5 at 11:56
10:16:37 <Eric> Hard to know for sure if it's marmot cave as there is other holes right near there.
10:17:04 <Dave from B™> Could be "Mouth"
10:17:21 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll ask her if she's around (or maybe one of you could forward it?)
10:20:42 <Dave from B™> DG, I will send her an email this weekend
10:20:49 <Jeff in CT> Hi guys
10:20:55 <ynpvisitor999®> thanks Dave
10:20:58 <Jeff in CT> I missed BH :(
10:21:01 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon Jeff
10:21:55 <Jeff in CT> OTOH, Lion should happen soon
10:22:43 <Eric> I doubt it's mouth, but there is a small geyser directly above marmot caves ledge and also there is another geyser just slightly north of there that could line up with it.
10:23:04 <Eric> ghg 17?
10:23:13 <Eric> Hi Jeff
10:23:24 <Dave from B™> Aurum heating up?
10:23:31 <Jeff in CT> Hi Eric
10:23:47 <LindaG> I zoomed in on what I think was marmot
10:24:17 <Eric> I assume we missed a lion series overnight
10:24:24 <LindaG> Unng5
10:24:24 <Eric> ghg 5
10:24:37 <Eric> :-D
10:24:42 <Eric> good catch linda
10:24:59 <LindaG> 😃
10:25:17 <Jeff in CT> So that is GHG 5 eh
10:25:17 <Dave from B™> nice
10:25:44 <ynpvisitor999®> also known as "Grove" informally
10:26:41 <Jeff in CT> Eric, last reported Lion initial was 16:37 yesterday, with a total of 3 in the series - predictor suggests next initial should have been at 10:34 this morning, so I don't think any Lion events were missecd
10:27:58 <Eric> I like GHG5 better :-P
10:28:00 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion did have an eruption earlier today when GT was down. Didn't look at the time, but I think it was about an hour-ish ago
10:28:16 <LindaG> There was a lion at 11:17 while u were down
10:28:21 <Eric> ahhh, I didn't see it...thanks
10:28:33 <Eric> Are you going to log that linda?
10:28:36 <Jeff in CT> Cool, predictor works (half the time)
10:29:03 <Eric> Hey, as long as you make your window large enough...predictors always work ;-)
10:29:04 <ynpvisitor999®> by any chance, do you know roughly the duration of that Lion, Linda?
10:29:23 <Jeff in CT> I was off, this time, by only 42 minutes
10:29:31 <Eric> I assume it was the ini DG...we didn't have any other eruptions this morning
10:29:39 <LindaG> I don't have official log ability, don't know how
10:30:01 <Eric> Signup for an account on GT and hit the big enter button :-D
10:30:07 <Eric> geysertimes.org
10:30:21 <Eric> it's easy and always awesome to have new contributors
10:30:27 <LindaG> LION 11:17 - 11:25 it was a long one
10:30:40 <Eric> But I don't mind entering it
10:30:49 <ynpvisitor999®> that's initial-like duration, so must've been the initial
10:31:24 <Eric> I entered it and put you as the observer Linda
10:31:33 <Eric> thanks for reporting
10:31:40 <LindaG> Ok ill do it. I figured since you were down I'd better write down times, i dont usually
10:32:07 <Eric> You can still do it too...it doesn't hurt to have multiple entries
10:32:11 <LindaG> Oh th banks, i will set myself up thiugh
10:32:27 <Eric> Either way it's all good.
10:32:43 <ynpvisitor13> you will be signed up for the future
10:33:02 <ynpvisitor13> and 8 minutes is the initial, others in series will not be that long
10:33:16 <Jeff in CT> Antelope roaming on Electric Peak WC
10:33:16 <LindaG> They are back!
10:33:37 <Eric> I love the herds that show up on electric peak cam
10:33:54 <Eric> You get bison, wolves, antelope, elk, .....
10:34:33 <Jeff in CT> and the occasional researcher
10:36:34 <ynpvisitor999®> Sprinkler
10:41:46 <LindaG> Where is sprinkler?
10:42:37 <ynpvisitor999®> it's behind the front-right at the foot of SC's mound
10:42:40 <Kevin L™🌵> By the tree to the right
10:42:44 <ynpvisitor999®> front-right tree*
10:42:46 <Kevin L™🌵> now center
10:43:22 <LindaG> In back of that by the water?
10:43:31 <Eric> yes
10:43:41 <LindaG> Cool
10:43:42 <Eric> just to the left of that bigger tree
10:43:45 <Eric> centered up now
10:45:50 <LindaG> Lion ie
10:47:58 <Jeff in CT> Yeah Lion
10:50:36 <Jeff in CT> Cool that you can see Lion steam/vapor in the static WC
10:51:03 <Jeff in CT> If they just nudged the static a bit more, we could see BH and Lion in static
10:52:05 <Eric> You could see BH in static this morning
10:52:26 <Eric> but like you said, if it was just a little more to the left, you would be able to see it much better.
10:53:49 <Jeff in CT> I take what we can get.
10:55:21 <Jeff in CT> (correction) I'll take what we can get (/correction)
10:56:54 <ynpvisitor999®> Grove
10:56:57 <LindaG> Inng5
10:57:06 <LindaG> Or unng5
10:57:58 <LindaG> I like how the trees are looking frosty
11:10:42 <fishynp> I'm back now. In reference to the conversation about Steamboat detections, I think it would definitely be important to include YNR
11:11:21 <LindaG> Is that terra cotra?
11:11:22 <fishynp> Although, for some eruptions, it doesn't seem to register on YNR even though it looks just as strong in YNM. This is interesting by itself.
11:11:27 <Eric> I believe their algorithm was just using YNM...but not 100%
11:11:32 <LindaG> Or terra cotta
11:11:55 <Eric> the axis show very differently between eruptions too fishynp
11:12:08 <fishynp> in what way?
11:12:24 <Eric> I have looked at a few eruptions with the Z N & E data and they are interestingly different
11:13:12 <Eric> I don't recall the exact reason I thought they were interesting...but I recall them having noteable data differences between eruptions.
11:13:20 <fishynp> Of course. It depends on what type of seismic wave is propagating and in what direction as each type of seismic wave has different amplitudes on the different orientations (Z,N,E).
11:13:49 <Eric> Exactly, but for the same type of event at the same location, I would expect similar behaviors.
11:14:01 <fishynp> YNR is about 1 km away so it doesn't really record any hydrothermal noise.
11:14:07 <ynpvisitor55> I am just grateful for the squiggly lines :)
11:14:22 <fishynp> You are assuming every major eruption is alike. I'm not sure I agree with that.......yet.
11:15:13 <Eric> Well, I have been watching geyser long enough to know that eruptions definitely vary...just not sure I expected that much variance in ground shake.
11:15:27 <Jeff in CT> Are you able to tell the depth at which the seismic waves are generated?
11:15:47 <Eric> Anyway....a future weekend project for me to collect the 3 axis data from each SB eruption and compare
11:17:04 <fishynp> Potentially we can. We did that for Old Faithful. We can track the water level as it builds towards eruption. I'm hoping with the data we collected earlier in the summer for
11:17:10 <Eric> I assume fishynp could tell that from his seismo array he had in there during the spring.
11:17:13 <fishynp> SB, that we will be able to do the same thing.
11:17:25 <Eric> haha :-D
11:17:45 <Eric> Is that a winter paper for you fishynp?
11:18:33 <fishynp> The Old Faithful paper should be coming out in the next couple of months and we are getting a student to start working on the SB data, so hopefully in the next 6 months or so.
11:18:55 <Eric> Nice...look forward to reading the OF one soon
11:19:32 <Jeff in CT> Is it a safe assumption that each eruption has the same water level at eruption - this should depend on hydrostatic pressure, temperature, temperature distribution through the water column, etc.
11:19:42 <fishynp> And now I need to work on the data I just collected on Geyser Hill.......
11:19:53 <Jeff in CT> Steam and superheated water are fun, aren't they?
11:20:20 <LindaG> For sure
11:20:44 <fishynp> Not necessarily. There are a lot so subtle changes that can effect this related to 2-phase fluid flow in a complicated geometry.
11:22:07 <Jeff in CT> I had a course in two-phase flow back in the day.
11:23:27 <Teri> hey guys, got knocked offline for a while; couldn't get GT site either; anyone else notice an outage?
11:23:43 <Teri> mobile too
11:24:20 <ynpvisitor999®> there were some server issues
11:24:28 <Teri> wanted to ask what that smaller feature is to the right of OF that steams during an OF eruption
11:24:32 <LindaG> Yes they were down for a while, i had problems also
11:25:17 <Teri> can't tell from the webcam if there's a water phase too
11:26:06 <LindaG> Castle ie
11:26:56 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder what that thing is as well, Teri. Maybe USGS' research can help?
11:27:12 <Teri> nothing listed in Scott's book
11:27:57 <LindaG> I notices that thing today and had never noticed before. Figured it was a vent
11:28:01 <Teri> unless it's across the river and the cam makes it look like it's closer
11:28:35 <Teri> maybe Micah would know
11:28:41 <ynpvisitor999®> Improbable is in about the same area, but that thing next to OF during eruptions also shows up on the static
11:29:21 <Jeff in CT> I asked about the OF vent in the past, and it is a true OF vent - active only when OF is active
11:30:47 <ynpvisitor13> OF ie ie
11:31:10 <ynpvisitor999®> with the little vent
11:32:38 <Jeff in CT> Maybe we can have "name the little vent" contest?
11:33:01 <ynpvisitor999®> Old Faithful's Baby would be my suggestion
11:33:11 <ynpvisitor65> OFLV :)
11:33:23 <LindaG> What about mini me?
11:34:22 <ynpvisitor13> Why OFLV? L for little?
11:34:34 <ynpvisitor65> yes
11:34:37 <Teri> clearly connected to OF; new vent?
11:34:43 <ynpvisitor999®> I think it's 'Old Faithful's Little Vent' in full
11:34:46 <ynpvisitor13> and please no OF baby
11:34:58 <ynpvisitor13> it has been there forever, not new in any way
11:35:37 <ynpvisitor13> when I first came on chat years and years ago, it was there
11:36:09 <Teri> missed the start of this eruption looking at the 8:54am that vid capped ie
11:36:29 <Teri> steam obscures it, but it was clearer on one of the other am eruptions
11:36:42 <ynpvisitor13> it was visible when cam op did the close up
11:36:53 <ynpvisitor13> earlier in this eruption
11:37:08 <Jeff in CT> Just don't pick "OF Mc-OF face"
11:37:30 <ynpvisitor13> why does it need a name?
11:38:15 <ynpvisitor65> Castle looks minor
11:38:15 <LindaG> I on the am eruption it was very clear and definitely its own little hole
11:38:27 <Teri> will have to reread Scott's text on OF; I just looked at the feature map
11:40:30 <Jeff in CT> I am just musing, that for SB, and probably most other fountain-type geysers, at least some of the water is significantly superheated, so any minor upset will set off the eruption
11:42:15 <Dave from B™> Well, I'm seen lots of big minors that don't set it off
11:42:52 <Dave from B™> I've*
11:43:01 <LindaG> Maybe grotto?
11:43:20 <ynpvisitor999®> Grotto's the most likely one
11:43:33 <Dave from B™> That vent seems to be only visible during cold weather
11:43:47 <Dave from B™> or, more visible I should say
11:43:48 <ynpvisitor65> yrs, most likely
11:45:05 <Teri> re OF side vent - no mention of it in Geysers of Y
11:49:18 <LindaG> Depression
11:51:53 <ynpvisitor999®> Looks like we saw Artemisia starting
11:51:55 <LindaG> Did Dave break grand too?😉
11:52:30 <LindaG> Noce
11:52:38 <LindaG> Or nice lol
11:53:50 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
11:53:52 <LindaG> Lion
11:54:18 <Dave from B™> Wait a minute....rookies roomers aren't allowed to heckle me!:D
11:54:30 <Dave from B™> Is Kevin paying you?
11:54:51 <Dave from B™> Grand went during the morning down basin fogbank
11:55:28 <ynpvisitor65> Dave did not break Grand we missed it avoiding "scientificals"
11:55:54 <Jeff in CT> For those of you staying up late or getting up early, I expect the next Lion initial sometime around 5 am tomorrow morning
11:55:56 <Jeff in CT> TTFN!
11:56:42 <ynpvisitor65> I'll be watching, Jeff
11:57:06 <ynpvisitor52> scientificals need to be around to download loggers every 28 days.
11:57:10 <LindaG> 😊 sorry
11:57:56 <Jeff in CT> 65 - ;)
11:59:19 <Betty> afternoon all
11:59:31 <ynpvisitor999®> evening Betty
11:59:53 <LindaG> Hi betty
12:00:22 <Betty> evening DG, hi Linda
12:00:35 <ynpvisitor65> that "Grotto steam" earlier was Artemisa as reported by Mara
12:01:25 <ynpvisitor41> that OF hole already has a name so it obviously doesn't need another one. It's name is " "What's that steaming hole to the right of OF?" "Improbable and Anemones are back there" "No not that far back, the one by OF." "Oh, that's been there forever and it steams sometimes." "
12:01:46 <ynpvisitor41> see how easy that is? just needs an emojicon below for it
12:01:48 <ynpvisitor65> oops DG already said that
12:02:25 <ynpvisitor41> cool that we can see some cold weather Artemisias
12:08:09 <Betty> wow, the snowdwarf is still there
12:09:56 <LindaG> Hoping for an Aurum
12:10:41 <LindaG> Is that aurum?
12:10:54 <Betty> .
12:10:54 <Betty> .
12:10:56 <ynpvisitor999®> Aurum
12:10:57 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:10:58 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:10:58 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:10:59 <Betty> .woot
12:11:09 <Betty> good call Linda!
12:11:32 <LindaG> Aurum loves me
12:11:35 <Betty> Kevin will be so envious :-)
12:11:54 <LindaG> 😁
12:11:58 <ynpvisitor65> If Betty is here there will be an Aurum :)
12:12:18 <Betty> haha, I doubt that
12:12:42 <LindaG> I'm shocked that it actually happened. Lol
12:13:00 <Betty> hehehe
12:13:31 <Dave from B™> wow...nice one Linda!
12:13:48 <LindaG> Thanks.
12:14:04 <ynpvisitor65> Betty was here...it had to happen...I'm tellin ya :)
12:14:40 <ynpvisitor65> Amazing, Linda
12:14:40 <ynpvisitor41> Hoping for a million dollars
12:14:57 <ynpvisitor41> waiting
12:15:06 <ynpvisitor41> waiting
12:15:09 <Betty> >(
12:15:10 <ynpvisitor65> :)
12:15:19 <LindaG> Really as soon as I typed I'm hoping for an Aurum it went off. Weird
12:15:27 <ynpvisitor41> and nothing
12:15:41 <ynpvisitor41> Linda's the only one with the power
12:15:51 <Betty> yep
12:16:50 <Dave from B™> I did something to the geyser gods this year. I may take an offering to SB the next time I'm on the platform
12:18:01 <ynpvisitor65> I wonder if lobster will work, Dave?
12:19:13 <Dave from B™> I was hoping for something more economical but by then I might be willing
12:20:04 <ynpvisitor65> Take Linda, she can say "Steamboat I command thee, rise up" It will probably happen
12:20:39 <LindaG> Lol
12:22:02 <Dave from B™> If it's on the way, more than happy to pickup any gazer
12:23:15 <Dave from B™> It it's a SB trip, I leave Blgs 3 hours before sunrise
12:26:47 <ynpvisitor65> Grand is about an hour away. I hope the Scientificals stay away
12:29:41 <Dave from B™> See anything that looks like turban lately?
12:32:39 <ynpvisitor108> I just saw that the crazy conewalker from Sept pled guilty.
12:32:54 <ynpvisitor65> not yet, but with things blowing to the right it is hard to tell
12:33:44 <LindaG> Bison meet snow dwarf
12:33:48 <ynpvisitor97> 1500 is about 12 hours hot 2X?
12:34:04 <ynpvisitor65> Oh oh look out snowkid
12:34:19 <ynpvisitor97> No orange vest
12:34:31 <ynpvisitor65> there is turban now
12:36:51 <ynpvisitor13> I would say Grand is only a half hour away
12:44:41 <Eric> based on the last 4 grands, next one 15:42 +- 25m
12:46:26 <Dave from B™> I'm hoping that 6:50 interval was an anomaly
12:46:54 <Dave from B™> I'm thinking 1454 or 1513 area
12:47:13 <ynpvisitor13> I agree Dave
12:48:29 <Eric> hard to tell...we had some very short intervals at about 5h30m
12:49:06 <Eric> The last 3 have been all 6+
12:49:47 <GO F&M> did Grand go during BH watch?
12:49:47 <Eric> The trending could change, but I like trends :-P
12:51:14 <GO F&M> I think we only had 1 day with 5 eruptions plus the one on the 25h day
12:52:31 <Dave from B™> Graham, down basin morning fogbank smothered Grand
12:52:34 <GO F&M> it would have had 5 on 11/5 without the clock change
12:53:17 <Dave from B™> Alright Grand...time to go
12:53:26 <GO F&M> I see Mara is still there. are they working this weekend?
12:56:04 <LindaG> I I hope grand and a of don't go at same time
12:56:36 <LindaG> Grand and OF, can't type
12:56:38 <ynpvisitor65> Do you have Kevins luck ?
12:57:05 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand will probably go a few minutes before OF
12:57:43 <LindaG> Well old faithful just spouted some water
12:57:45 <ynpvisitor65> Kevin holds the record for Grand in an OF window
12:59:00 <LindaG> Ive had grand and bee at the same time
12:59:19 <LindaG> Of
12:59:27 <ynpvisitor65> OF
12:59:46 <GO F&M> I've had Giant and SB at the same time :)
13:00:30 <ynpvisitor65> and where were you at the time ?
13:00:31 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
13:00:39 <LindaG> Lion
13:00:52 <Eric> grand and the next OF could still overlap
13:00:57 <Eric> :-P
13:00:57 <LindaG> Maybe a triple play
13:01:12 <Eric> nah, we won't see grand for another 30m+
13:01:19 <ynpvisitor999®> OF long
13:01:28 <GO F&M> 65 - sitting at home. at least the cam view of one was nice
13:01:44 <ynpvisitor65> ")
13:01:50 <ynpvisitor65> :)
13:01:54 <LindaG> Vent to right of of
13:02:17 <LindaG> Wow
13:02:34 <Eric> Yep, as graham says....it does that :-D
13:04:21 <GO F&M> i like the steam clouds this time of year or when its 50 degrees colser
13:04:59 <ynpvisitor999®> Bulger?
13:06:21 <GO F&M> 10 weeks from today I head out there
13:06:42 <Eric> woot
13:06:51 <Betty> :-)
13:07:20 <Eric> Totally jealous
13:07:29 <GO F&M> you can come too
13:07:46 <Betty> good plan
13:07:53 <Eric> I really want to plan a winter yellowstone trip in the next couple years, but will probably be after my daughter finishes college
13:08:00 <GO F&M> Betty is too busy skiing then
13:08:23 <ynpvisitor13> she would not like the drive from Vegas so much in winter!
13:08:52 <Eric> Not too expensive to fly from vegas to bozeman
13:09:00 <Betty> true
13:09:19 <Kevin L™🌵> But your arms get really tired.
13:09:24 <ynpvisitor13> she could leave Vegas out of the mix for winter
13:09:36 <GO F&M> thats good, flying to bzn from the east coast is expensive
13:09:51 <ynpvisitor65> Follow Gram with the camera when he is in the park, you will not miss Geysers
13:09:58 <GO F&M> unless you get a free flight
13:10:18 <ynpvisitor65> Do not follow him to breakfast :)
13:10:25 <LindaG> Spri kler?
13:10:35 <ynpvisitor13> nice spikes on it
13:10:57 <ynpvisitor65> Gram=Granam*
13:10:59 <GO F&M> i miss the Sawmill group, its been great most winters as a hangout spot while waiting for Grand. Maybe will spend more time on geyser hill if its still interesting
13:11:08 <ynpvisitor65> Graham*
13:11:17 <GO F&M> breakfast is 0630
13:11:56 <GO F&M> then out at 0700 as the light is coming out
13:13:17 <GO F&M> its full moon the week i am there
13:13:27 <Betty> cool
13:13:47 <LindaG> Betty is that terra cotta to rhe left
13:13:52 <Dave from B™> Graham, how long before you retire?
13:13:57 <GO F&M> so can stay out a bit
13:14:03 <Betty> uhm, could be
13:14:21 <GO F&M> maybe a couple of years
13:14:31 <Eric> almost at 5 years since the last giantess eruption
13:14:33 <GO F&M> as long as 401k doesnt tank
13:14:34 <Betty> I´m not familiar with the Terra Cottas
13:15:04 <Dave from B™> Will you stay in DC area or move closer to YNP? I know opera plays a factor in that deicsion as well
13:15:05 <LindaG> Ok. Oh it was Katie the other day that called it
13:15:31 <LindaG> Pretty sure it is
13:15:34 <GO F&M> I think that Giantess was the week after I was there
13:15:46 <ynpvisitor999®> 12 more days and Giantess' interval will surpass Morning's... :(
13:15:48 <Dave from B™> You could move to St. George. they must have opera in Vegas
13:16:32 <GO F&M> will probably move .....got to see as many operas as possible now
13:17:00 <GO F&M> I have 4 next week, starting Sunday including 2 I have not seen before
13:17:23 <GO F&M> theres opera in Bzn
13:17:30 <Kevin L™🌵> St George is more crowded than Vegas now.
13:18:02 <Kevin L™🌵> http://www.amargosa-opera-house.com/
13:18:24 <GO F&M> went by there Kevin
13:18:36 <GO F&M> no opera on then
13:18:46 <ynpvisitor13> only the tiny snowman remains on the bw for snow in front of OF
13:19:22 <Kevin L™🌵> Amargosa Valley is a "different" type of place.
13:19:47 <GO F&M> I am not moving there
13:20:08 <Eric> haha...nobody wants to live in that area
13:20:23 <Eric> San Francisco is great for Opera :-)
13:21:17 <Eric> Portland and Seattle are OK opera towns.
13:21:32 <GO F&M> not much point in moving to another expensive area tho
13:21:33 <Kevin L™🌵> I would rather live in Amargosa than san francisco
13:21:44 <Eric> I love San Francisco
13:22:03 <GO F&M> $$$$$
13:22:22 <Kevin L™🌵> https://www.thesmithcenter.com/
13:22:25 <Eric> Yep, it's not cheap...but there is a reason so many people want to live there.
13:22:42 <Eric> My parents do VRBO down there and go to the Opera
13:23:34 <Eric> They also really like the Opera house in Cape Town, South Africa
13:23:47 <GO F&M> i did go to Portland Opera many years ago. Here in VA I can easily get to NY, Philly, DC, and a couple of companies in VA
13:24:11 <GO F&M> and Baltimore (sunday)
13:24:15 <Eric> Yes, I am sure you get exceptional Opera in your area!
13:24:22 <ynpvisitor13> Bozeman has direct flights to NYC now. You can fly for opera instead of geysers
13:24:44 <ynpvisitor13> though Bozeman is getting pricey too
13:24:56 <GO F&M> i know, i saw that 13 - occasionally the newark to BZN flight shows up in my connection searches
13:25:29 <Dave from B™> Don't you have family in Denver?
13:25:41 <GO F&M> yes, thats an option too
13:25:50 <ynpvisitor108> 10 hrs to OF. Opera Colo is decent. 7 hrs to Santa Fe Opera
13:25:51 <GO F&M> still a long drive to YNP
13:26:10 <ynpvisitor13> well you will be retired with time on your hands
13:26:11 <Dave from B™> Live in fort Collins so you are closer to OF
13:26:23 <Kevin L™🌵> I don't want to live somewhere where people have to live on top of each other. I also prefer a 4 way stop as the most complex form of traffic control.
13:26:38 <Eric> Meh, live in West so you can get to steamboat in under an hour :-D
13:26:43 <ynpvisitor13> Graham will not be living there Kevin
13:26:54 <Eric> You can always schedule Opera events
13:27:11 <GO F&M> i an from England, we have traffic circles everywhere
13:27:29 <GO F&M> even have traffic circles in the middle of traffic circles
13:27:50 <ynpvisitor13> you could not drive when you lived there
13:27:55 <GO F&M> Americans totally freeze at that one
13:28:17 <GO F&M> i did
13:28:25 <GO F&M> drive, not freeze
13:28:28 <ynpvisitor13> I think Americans do fine with traffic circles once they stop whining about them
13:28:46 <ynpvisitor13> didn't you leave the UK when you were a kid?
13:28:59 <Dave from B™> I love traffic circles
13:29:05 <GO F&M> not that young
13:29:14 <ynpvisitor13> how old?
13:29:16 <Kent> It's generational. When we old farts die out circles will come into their own.
13:29:20 <GO F&M> didnt drive much as trains were good
13:29:21 <Kevin L™🌵> Traffic circles cause cancer.
13:29:25 <Dave from B™> I freak everyone out when I go around them at 25
13:29:43 <ynpvisitor65> Billings has a few on the west side, Nice
13:29:44 <ynpvisitor13> Traffic circles are SO much better than 4 way stops
13:29:46 <GO F&M> they did go overboard in the Bzn airport road
13:29:49 <LindaG> maybe grotto
13:30:07 <Dave from B™> We have 11 on one road in Billings
13:30:17 <GO F&M> nice
13:30:19 <ynpvisitor13> and no stop signs...
13:30:24 <Dave from B™> Yes, 65...that's Shiloh Road
13:30:30 <Kent> Grand is outside my window:thumbsdown:
13:30:34 <Eric> haha...I laugh at the giant roundabout at bozeman airport!
13:30:48 <Eric> Grand just entering my window
13:31:08 <Kent> Yours obviously better than mine
13:31:18 <Dave from B™> Here is the granddaddy of all roundabouts. It is fun to just watch the cars go around...
13:31:21 <LindaG> Ever go to sedona i couldnt belive the circles in town
13:31:23 <Eric> Mine is just based on averages of last 4
13:31:25 <Eric> nothing more
13:31:27 <Dave from B™> https://www.google.com/search?q=arc+de+triumph+traffic+circle&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS769US769&oq=arc+de+triumph+traffic+circle&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.7822j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
13:32:01 <Betty> researchers are on the way
13:32:04 <Eric> I was going to mention the arc de triumph Dave...I sat there one evening just watching cars during rush hour
13:32:16 <Kevin L™🌵> Been there Dave. It is awful. so is the one down the street.
13:32:29 <Dave from B™> I watched them from the top of the Arc...that's really fun
13:33:56 <ynpvisitor13> is it hard to get to the arc with all the traffic?
13:34:10 <Kevin L™🌵> This one is the worst in Germany. You are on an autobahn and run across this. https://www.google.com/maps/@48.1659556,11.4543259,1331m/data=!3m1!1e3
13:34:21 <ynpvisitor108> Normal circles decrease accidents and improve flow. That? Nope!
13:34:35 <Betty> that´s Munich
13:34:38 <GO F&M> try this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D22BOOGbpFM
13:34:46 <GO F&M> the magic roundabout
13:34:57 <Kevin L™🌵> You know it Betty. That one is plain evil.
13:35:11 <ynpvisitor13> not time for Daisy, yet Sprinkler is sure happy
13:35:17 <LindaG> Well guess im done. Have a good night
13:35:25 <ynpvisitor13> not sure why we are out of sight of Grand
13:35:41 <Eric> Night Linda
13:35:42 <Betty> I drove it several times
13:36:09 <ynpvisitor112> Good night
13:36:19 <Betty> I love circles
13:36:26 <Betty> night Linda
13:36:27 <Eric> can we pan a little right to include grand?
13:36:38 <ynpvisitor13> op not on chat
13:36:57 <ynpvisitor13> I would say yes, let's do that
13:36:58 <Kevin L™🌵> How about this one Betty? https://www.google.com/maps/@50.0699229,8.8891136,641m/data=!3m1!1e3
13:37:40 <ynpvisitor13> it will be crazy to miss Grand after all this...
13:38:18 <Eric> cam ops should be required to hear us nag :-P
13:38:30 <ynpvisitor13> yes, definitely
13:38:35 <Kent> :)
13:38:46 <Eric> or whine or whatever it is we do
13:39:04 <Eric> complain, kabitz, ...
13:39:06 <ynpvisitor13> is that Grand?
13:39:08 <Eric> grand
13:39:11 <ynpvisitor13> lots of steam
13:39:12 <Eric> yes
13:39:14 <Eric> I think so
13:39:16 <ynpvisitor13> drat
13:39:45 <Eric> interesting steam in the trees in frnnt of daisy
13:39:55 <Eric> maybe bank?
13:40:01 <Kent> Half geysers are in fashion today.
13:40:23 <ynpvisitor13> finally
13:40:25 <Teri> is that Deleted Teakettle to the left of the bridge? on the bank
13:40:33 <Eric> woops :-D
13:40:35 <Kevin L™🌵> It is a 500!
13:41:05 <ynpvisitor13> maybe Grand will be nice and have a 2nd
13:41:22 <ynpvisitor13> it's been 5 minutes at least
13:42:29 <Kevin L™🌵> Nasty green button!
13:42:31 <Eric> I think the cat is helping
13:42:43 <Kent> :)
13:43:09 <Eric> That is definitely something my cat would do!
13:43:49 <Kent> My project for after Thanksgiving. 2
13:44:30 <Dave from B™> Kent, I sure hope you guys get some snow this year after last year
13:44:54 <ynpvisitor13> Dave, I hope you get less
13:45:06 <Kent> Storms still stopping at the Idaho border.
13:45:32 <Dave from B™> 13, Me, too! We've already had a couple 1-2" storms. I don't mind those
13:45:55 <ynpvisitor13> no snow for a few weeks now in MT, that will be a nice break
13:46:20 <ynpvisitor13> full moon could be a bit chilly
13:46:58 <Dave from B™> Yep...it is outdoor christmas light weekend at my house. And, I have a strong future son in law who is helping:)
13:47:20 <Eric> 8m I think
13:47:24 <ynpvisitor13> that's nice Dave, always good to have help with that job
13:47:56 <ynpvisitor13> 39 ish was the start
13:49:32 <Jimbo Argon> Still on the first?
13:49:51 <ynpvisitor13> pause or done?
13:50:00 <Eric> I bet done
13:50:16 <Kevin L™🌵> You have a 2 story house Dave?
13:50:54 <ynpvisitor65> Cam did not swing until 40:17
13:51:07 <Dave from B™> No, it is a rancher but roof is still up there in a few spots
13:51:11 <ynpvisitor13> I got in touch with the op
13:51:31 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... judging by the steam, I think this is -1Q
13:51:46 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
13:51:49 <Eric> thanks 13
13:52:04 <Eric> daisy
13:52:07 <ynpvisitor13> yw, I figured he had just got on and did not see a prediction for Grand
13:52:13 <Kevin L™🌵> Big Daisy poof!
13:52:19 <ynpvisitor13> so he was focused on Daisy, not a bad 2nd choice
13:52:32 <Eric> I think focused on sprinkler
13:52:39 <Dave from B™> Well, everyone. It is the weekend. Time to head home. Have a great weekend everyone!
13:52:49 <ynpvisitor999®> same to you, Dave
13:52:52 <ynpvisitor13> well he said he was focused on Daisy
13:52:52 <Kevin L™🌵> Weekend?
13:52:56 <Kent> Night Dave
13:53:00 <ynpvisitor13> night Dave
13:53:02 <Betty> enjoy Dave
13:53:25 <ynpvisitor13> careful on that ladder
13:56:06 <Teri> have a great weekend Dave, Betty!
13:56:34 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if we'll see some NG action today
13:57:26 <Betty> hi Teri
13:59:29 <ynpvisitor65> Marmot puff
14:06:54 <Teri> Betty, hope I get back next summer and c u again!
14:07:46 <Teri> Thomas posted a really nice dual Fountain/Morning vid
14:09:26 <ynpvisitor65> Lion
14:11:00 <ynpvisitor65> footprints :) I have done that too many times
14:18:59 <ynpvisitor117> I forgot to answer a question earlier. In Paris there is a tunnel to get you under the traffic circle to bring you to the arc d triomphe
14:33:38 <ynpvisitor112> I think it's a girl, has a skirt
14:38:44 <ynpvisitor65> OF 1637
14:42:40 <ynpvisitor65> nice snowkid
14:57:34 <ynpvisitor108> Speaking of traffic circles, anybody have diverging diamond interchanges?
14:59:44 <ynpvisitor999®> Riverside
14:59:57 <ynpvisitor999®> and as far as diverging diamonds are concerned, none in my country
15:00:47 <ynpvisitor108> Various cities are putting them in. Look crazy; work great!
15:04:17 <ynpvisitor51> They are strange but they work. A SPUI is also a good option.
15:05:23 <ynpvisitor51> Both run more traffic and take less real estate.
15:07:16 <ynpvisitor108> And the merging is easier. I learned to drive on corkscrews
15:10:54 <ynpvisitor108> I love this light!
15:10:54 <ynpvisitor51> I like the wider turn radius on the SPUI because it moves traffic quicker but the deck size is huge.
15:11:35 <ynpvisitor51> DD is easier to convert existing diamonds.
15:17:44 <ynpvisitor108> It's great they are trying different approaches.
15:22:30 <ynpvisitor51> The traditional cloverleaf and diamond were not efficient moving traffic.
15:22:50 <GO F&M> fun reading the steamboat notes of old that MAB loaded on GT - if you search for 900 of them you get them all. Some reports are just like this years
15:23:20 <GO F&M> i didnt find any extra eruptions for 1963, so we have 27 on GT and NPS reports 29 as themax in one year
15:23:58 <GO F&M> i meant 1964
15:24:16 <GO F&M> it does say 3 were seen in may 1963 which we dont have dates for
15:24:50 <GO F&M> and that one may have been missed ... but thats still less than NPS has for that year too
15:24:53 <ynpvisitor51> I hope it keeps going long enough that Dave and kc get it.
15:25:11 <ynpvisitor108> We're at, what, 26 this year?
15:25:19 <GO F&M> yep, would be nice. its had multi-year active periods
15:25:25 <GO F&M> 26 now
15:26:01 <ynpvisitor51> Giant has been wonderful too
15:26:33 <ynpvisitor108> My sister is going on May. I hope it keeps going for her.
15:26:41 <Eric> liion?
15:27:18 <ynpvisitor51> Appears so
15:27:53 <GO F&M> lion
15:28:17 <ynpvisitor108> Blue lion
15:29:42 <Eric> Those are some interesting spikes on the gray lake temperature sensor
15:29:57 <Eric> DG pointed them out earlier and just took a look.
15:30:06 <Eric> https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vsc/captures/yellowstone/graylakes-24h.png
15:32:11 <Eric> Anyone know what thermal feature might push that sensor higher?
15:46:50 <ynpvisitor108> Is Gray Lakes in Norris?
15:47:09 <GO F&M> Castle has been alternating maj and min the last 4 days
15:47:17 <GO F&M> yes
15:48:19 <ynpvisitor108> Castle - that's inconvenient. Norris - something new?
15:48:36 <ynpvisitor999®> intervals do seem rather short for the first eruption after a min-maj pair for Castle
15:53:49 <GO F&M> agree DG .... its starting too early and minors
15:54:23 <ynpvisitor999®> maybe new behaviour for Castle?
15:54:31 <ynpvisitor999®> probably too soon to tell though
15:55:03 <GO F&M> its only been a few days, lets see what happens
15:55:31 <GO F&M> maybe its happening because of the researchers
16:03:08 <ynpvisitor108> Looks like a dark night ahead.
16:19:33 <ynpvisitor999®> OF ie
16:25:01 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy ie
16:50:26 <ynpvisitor112> Is someone on that cone?
16:51:47 <ynpvisitor112> ynp
16:51:59 <ynpvisitor112> Ignore that
17:21:56 <ynpvisitor999®> Castle?
17:24:36 <ynpvisitor999®> yes for Castle
17:25:10 <ynpvisitor5> are you up late, or up early?
17:25:41 <ynpvisitor999®> it's 0325 for me...
17:26:05 <ynpvisitor999®> so up late
17:26:27 <ynpvisitor5> right, wondered if you were still awake, or getting up early to do something
17:27:20 <ynpvisitor999®> I'll be going to bed soon, though, after a tv program is finished
19:19:30 <Teri> Kevin - r u still here? what's the source of the light on the left side of the cam view?
19:19:56 <Teri> researchers at OF, looks like
19:20:01 <Kevin L™🌵> Lights from West Yellowstone
19:21:06 <Teri> wow, that far away!; I saw it a year ago and called into the rangers in case it was a fire; was in SF and Santa Rosa was burning then, so we were all jittery re: fire; late Santa Ana's this year
19:21:42 <Teri> Paradise gone, SoCal threatened as usual
19:22:23 <Kevin L™🌵> It does look like it. he cam picks up light better than the eye so it isn't really as bright as it appears.
19:23:01 <Kevin L™🌵> We have been getting the smoke up here all year. Almost like Yellowstone 88
19:23:41 <Teri> tks; wondered once whether it might be from Gardiner, but figured that was too far, then I looked for a maintenance area on Google, but nothing in that direction
19:24:36 <Teri> Tacoma gets smoke from NorCal and BC, last August was worse than this year, but you have to close your windows or you have ash on everything
19:25:33 <Teri> headed out; will ck in tomorrow, regards, T
19:25:50 <Teri> those guys looking down the vent at night?, lol
19:26:18 <Teri> video from the cam drop into the vent still on the NPS site, dated, but cool
19:26:24 <Kevin L™🌵> Yes, there are researchers out tonight
19:27:09 <Kevin L™🌵> Interesting the information we have now with video and seismic stuff.
19:28:13 <Teri> the subterranean cavern systems must be pretty amazing; would be cool if there was ever a way to image them; like underground lidar
19:28:58 <Kevin L™🌵> They ran a helicopter with a sensor over them last year that did give some idea.
19:29:31 <Teri> was impressed with the pool at Imperial; must extend throughout the area given the potholes and volume of water flowing into the runoff stream
19:29:49 <Teri> sonar lidar would be amazing
19:30:05 <Teri> ok, have to go pick up my son from night class
19:30:08 <Teri> regards
19:30:22 <Kevin L™🌵> Have a great night
19:30:27 <Teri> u 2