Showing logs for date: 2018-12-21
22:36:47 <ynpvisitor62> Lion 0036 wc ie
02:21:32 <ynpvisitor61> Ah pea soup
02:32:35 <ynpvisitor51> It snowed a little
03:07:42 <Rice> Morning
04:05:31 <ynpvisitor999®> such terrible weather
04:05:43 <ynpvisitor999®> morning all
04:06:28 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm glad power got restored at Norris
04:13:49 <Rice> Yea, Looks like we had an Echiinus Eruption on the 15th.
04:34:01 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone
04:36:45 <Kat> Good Morning! Looking very snowy...
04:37:32 <Corless> morning Dave and everyone
04:38:46 <Corless> Rice, which chart did you use to see if echinus erupted? I'm new at this
04:39:24 <Kat> May be a slow morning! Don't know the weather report for the park.
04:39:57 <Corless> are there lights on the far left?
04:40:14 <Kat> Yes, walk way loights
04:40:25 <Kat> lights*
04:40:37 <Corless> I've never seen them, are they on every day?
04:41:10 <Kat> I think so -I moved the camera there a few minutes ago.
04:42:35 <Mike J> Feels like we're watching The Shining
04:42:48 <Kat> :)
04:43:20 <ynpvisitor57> did Joe sneak into the park to watch Riverside yesterday afternoon?
04:45:45 <ynpvisitor83> thanks it is now wc
04:46:30 <ynpvisitor57> i was hoping you were there :(
04:46:38 <Dave from B™> Darn! I thought we had nailed Joe. I was already dialing NPS LE:)
04:47:07 <ynpvisitor83> :)
04:48:51 <ynpvisitor83> Winter in the park would be a problem for me, too difficult to get around
04:49:07 <Rice> Corless; Norris Loggers Section, there is a Temp chart for Echinus, Steamboat, and Constant Geysers.
04:49:44 <Rice> The spike on the Echinus Chart, would indicate an eruption mid day on the 12/15.
04:51:40 <ynpvisitor17> An eruption looks much different
04:54:42 <Kat> Rice, 12/15 or 12/16?
04:56:13 <Rice> Kat 12/16, Sorry. "17", different how?
04:57:07 <Corless> that spike is strange, it jumps both directions in the same period
04:58:20 <ynpvisitor17> an eruption goes up to 70C then there is a long trough afterwards for a long time as it is still empty
04:58:32 <Kat> 12/17 very quiet, only downward spike late
05:01:03 <Kat> Not sure the difference or what the drop means
05:02:20 <ynpvisitor999®> most likely a decrease in overflow
05:03:04 <Kat> Thanks, I appreciate the opportunity to learn! You guys rock!
05:03:10 <ynpvisitor999®> those spikes up to 55°C could be either heavy overflow or even a minor
05:04:29 <Rice> Same here, I am always learning.
05:05:25 <Kat> I am coming out in May and hope to meet some of the folks here!
05:06:31 <Kat> Steamboat offline still?
05:08:08 <ynpvisitor999®> if I recall correctly its radio signal through which it uploads is incompatible with the one NPS uses
05:10:55 <ynpvisitor12> Screen looks like a small muted acrylic on panel. I like it.
05:12:36 <LindaG> Good morning. Hi Kat
05:12:49 <Kat> Morning Linda!
05:13:09 <ynpvisitor83> is that castle to left?
05:13:31 <Corless> Kat, which are you referring to as offline? YNM is up
05:13:37 <Kat> Could be
05:13:38 <LindaG> Of
05:14:54 <Kat> Yes Castle
05:15:00 <ynpvisitor83> yep castle ie
05:24:16 <Kat> Corless, was looking at temp log
05:25:23 <Corless> oh duh, now I see :)
05:27:01 <Oh My Gd> The Old Faithful seismograph looks pretty interesting right now
05:27:11 <Oh My Gd> meaning the different events that can be seen
05:28:39 <LindaG> Stop shaking the camera kat, 😉
05:29:31 <Corless> there is this from Yellowstone Tour Guides: 12/20/18: We will continue to operate in the event of a government shutdown. There will be limited facilities. NPS Restrooms will be closed, except Madison and the Canyon VC. The permit holders will be maintaining the restrooms. For the most part it should be business as usual, just no visitor's centers, etc. Please keep any comments civil on our page.
05:30:52 <Kat> I'm trying Linda!
05:31:12 <Kat> :)
05:57:04 <Dave from B™> North Entrance Road is closed again
05:57:25 <Kat> Not surprised!
06:00:05 <Kat> Cars backed up at North gate.
06:01:40 <Dave from B™> I imagine it will open shortly once road is sanded
06:15:17 <Dave from B™> Road is open
06:19:07 <Kat> :)
06:20:53 <LindaG> Looks like may e grotto coming out there
06:21:09 <LindaG> Or looks like grotto
06:21:11 <Kat> My thoughts to
06:21:51 <LindaG> More than grotto
06:23:01 <LindaG> Guess not, looked like two thi gs happening g
06:24:58 <Kat> Not sure..anyone?
06:26:58 <LindaG> Joe entered riverside
06:32:12 <ynpvisitor83> I do not know how soon after Giant that the hot periods start, but the left steam was Giant area, the right steam was Grotto area
06:35:50 <Dave from B™> This is too soon for a GHP, I believe
06:37:00 <ynpvisitor83> thanks Dave, not being a Giant prison veteran I was not sure,
06:40:28 <Dave from B™> I know during the 8-16 day intervals this summer it was at least 4 days before GHP's started...if I'm remebering correctly
06:41:21 <Dave from B™> I don't consider Giant cage a prison. A great view from the cage...osprey flying by all the time. The great sound of the firehole as well. Great place to read a book.
06:41:51 <Kevin L™🌵> And the ranger lets you eat there.
06:42:10 <ynpvisitor83> :)
06:42:27 <Dave from B™> haha
06:46:21 <Kat> OF 0845
06:47:30 <Bill> Morning
06:47:47 <ynpvisitor83> Hello Bill
06:48:10 <ynpvisitor83> Good trip yesterday?
06:49:33 <Bill> Got everything done that we wanted to. Wouldn't call it enjoyable though haha. Forgot the keys to the Norris museum so i had to go back to mammoth after I already got there, AND THEN a raven ate my subway sandwich
06:49:47 <Bill> So i spent about 6 hours on a snowmobile yesterday. Sore all over
06:49:55 <Dave from B™> Those pesky ravens
06:50:08 <ynpvisitor83> Darn Ravens :)
06:50:13 <Dave from B™> Bill, thanks for fixing the seismo
06:50:40 <Bill> Glad everything is up an working (except Steamboat).
06:50:56 <Bill> I also downloaded Cistern, Steamboat and Echinus while i was down there, so you WILL have SB data
06:51:17 <ynpvisitor83> great!
06:52:03 <Kevin L™🌵> Those ravens will even get into a closed backpack.
06:52:36 <Bill> Yeah! It was zipped and tough to open. Takes two hands
06:53:10 <ynpvisitor83> we watched ravens try to dteal from the scientists packs eariler this year
06:53:15 <Kevin L™🌵> Amazing what a bird can do with just a beak.
06:53:47 <Kevin L™🌵> We got them on video. Think there is a wanted poster at Mammoth.
06:53:59 <ynpvisitor83> :)
06:54:00 <Kat> :)
07:00:14 <LindaG> Things are looking better out there
07:00:24 <ynpvisitor999®> Thanks a lot Bill. Really appreciate it! :)
07:00:45 <Kat> Improvement!:sun:
07:01:22 <Kat> Slowcoaches are heading into West!
07:02:21 <LindaG> Yay!
07:02:35 <Kat> Should say Snowcoaches - but slow applies too! LOL
07:06:38 <Oh My Gd> Just saw another 5.0 aftershock from yesterday's Kamchatka quake, ~20 minutes ago
07:09:13 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy
07:12:25 <Kevin L™🌵> Time to take the kids car for service. Watch for BH, Aurum, & Giantess.
07:12:50 <Kat> OK, have fun!
07:12:58 <Corless> I have to do the same thing, Kevin
07:13:27 <Kevin L™🌵> Not my favorite chore.
07:13:29 <Kat> I have to pack for raod tri[p North toorrow!
07:13:49 <Kat> road trip! North tomorrow!
07:14:10 <Corless> North in the winter?
07:15:10 <Kat> Yes, it's Christmas! Need to see my son on Christmas day :).
07:18:54 <LindaG> I hope you have a safe trip and a very merry Christmas and a happy new year!
07:19:16 <Bill> New data up for Steamboat S Ch Tree, Echinus runoff, little muddy bubbler (ghg15), grove/purple haze, new feature boardwalk and pendant
07:19:17 <Bill> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HWMHC-olItRLow6F6df0byxuoRphRcuy?usp=sharing
07:19:58 <Kat> You to Linda! I sent the operators a message this AM. Just a heads up!
07:20:30 <Bill> something to note: the interval has changed on the UGB features that are being monitored since the Ear event. They were changed to 5 minutes for winter ops, since we cant make it down there reliably every 30 days
07:20:45 <ynpvisitor57> thanks Bill. Any Giant data?
07:21:53 <Bill> Nope. Didn't have time. Got back at about 6
07:23:12 <ynpvisitor57> i figured that with your Norris re-run
07:23:54 <Bill> Yeah, that definitely put a rush on the rest of the day.
07:25:43 <ynpvisitor57> traffic jam at West Gate
07:26:13 <Dave from B™> No fun to retrace your steps. I know the feeling. It definitely raises the heart rate
07:29:04 <ynpvisitor999®> Bill, is it possible to change the storage medium on those UGB loggers?
07:33:54 <Bill> How do you mean?
07:34:55 <ynpvisitor999®> for example, if the data is put on an SD card or similar, you could in theory replace such a card with one which has more space
07:35:56 <Bill> Ah, gotcha. So the storage is all integrated on the equipment we are currently using. I forget the term, but it's the kind of memory where if it loses power it wont lose data.
07:37:04 <ynpvisitor999®> non-volatile, perhaps?
07:37:18 <Bill> We are not happy with the current monitoring equipment (which is mostly supplied by Onset for our NPS loggers, and Marathon for the USGS telemetered loggers) and we'll be talking in April about planning for a new unified system
07:37:27 <Bill> that's what i was looking for.
07:37:52 <ynpvisitor999®> your HDD/SSD is non-volatile storage too, actually
07:38:04 <Bill> Personally i think it's absurd that they cant upgrade their equipment from 128kb to something more reasonable. It's almost 2019, we can put more memory in devices....
07:38:27 <ynpvisitor999®> 128kb... sigh
07:38:30 <Bill> right, most things are these days.
07:39:04 <Bill> Also they've taken away the ability to use "shuttles" for us to download data from the devices. Their new devices are usb only so we have to bring out laptops to get the data off of them
07:39:27 <Bill> their alternative is to pay $800 more per devices plus a cellular service plan for a telemetered system that wouldnt even work in the park.
07:40:08 <Bill> So yea, as the person leading the program I'm frustrated. The rest of YVO isnt happy with the system either. It'll be changing probably starting in FY2020
07:40:32 <ynpvisitor999®> I personally would recommend a logger where its storage can be increased/decreased at will - so for example, if you don't want to grab data every 30 days or even each year, you could upgrade its storage if necessary
07:41:49 <ynpvisitor999®> would help in USGS' case in Norris, where sometimes connection is a bit herky-jerky
07:42:10 <ynpvisitor999®> and in the park during winter season
07:45:45 <Bill> for sure
07:46:13 <LindaG> Dont see bubblers
07:46:32 <Bill> are you talking about the new data, LindaG?
07:46:52 <Kat> I don't either Linda.
07:47:10 <LindaG> No, beehive
07:47:17 <Bill> ah, sorry
07:47:57 <LindaG> No problem we're on BH watch 😊
07:48:28 <Kat> Yes - could bee awhile :)
07:48:48 <LindaG> Just beecause
07:49:42 <LindaG> Snow looks lonely out there 🙁
07:50:32 <Kat> HaHa! I think later this afternoon - maybe around 3 - 3:30!
07:51:17 <LindaG> Hope it stays clear
07:51:51 <Kat> Me too - I'll be checking for it!
07:52:22 <Dave from B™> Bill, thanks for your efforts this year. Always work to be done!
07:52:57 <Kat> Electric Peak looks cool!
07:53:21 <LindaG> Yeah cool cloud
07:55:10 <Kat> Working on Snow!
07:55:56 <LindaG> Good samaritans 😊
07:56:07 <Kat> looks like Snow lost his clothes
07:56:24 <LindaG> I think they were confiscated
07:57:23 <Kat> Not looking good - fogging up!
07:57:40 <LindaG> 🙁
07:58:04 <LindaG> I just saw some flakes
07:58:17 <Kat> Not surprised
07:58:52 <Kat> Yep -definitely snow!
07:59:12 <LindaG> Waiting for contractor hes going to ring the bell at 12pm alwys happens
07:59:31 <Kat> I can wait if you want
08:00:03 <LindaG> Thanks I'll deal with it, he could come later who knows!
08:00:34 <Kat> OK -have a good one!
08:00:52 <LindaG> U too, be safe
08:01:08 <Kat> Will do!
08:04:34 <ynpvisitor94> Amazing bell rang 12:01. Lol
08:04:56 <Kat> I knew it! LOL
08:05:43 <LindaG1> He's doing his thing
08:06:25 <Kat> What are you having done?
08:07:03 <LindaG1> Air conditioner has problems, they are looking for leaks. Came back to check the lines. Ongoing saga.
08:08:22 <Oh My Gd> Accidentally found this video - my favorite soundtrack by Mark Isham is from the movie "Miracle", about the 1980 US Olympic hockey team, but he's done other really good music, and also does symphonic pieces. This is pictures of Yellowstone set to the music from "The Times of Harvey Milk". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKURXuENuw
08:08:33 <Kat> Sorry! At least it's winter now and you don't need it!
08:08:53 <LindaG1> For sure!
08:09:00 <LindaG1> No bubblers
08:12:51 <ynpvisitor83> Grand due 1116 +/- 60 min
08:14:50 <LindaG1> Yes trying to keep in view
08:16:18 <ynpvisitor63> Mark Isham did A River Runs Through It soundtrack as well, a favorite
08:23:05 <LindaG1> OF
08:30:57 <LindaG1> No bubblers
08:48:07 <Kat> Do we have bubblers?
08:48:45 <LindaG1> Don't see them
08:48:49 <ynpvisitor> So have cam ops been told to take the weekend off?
08:49:13 <Kat> Not that I'm aware of!
08:49:47 <LindaG1> No one knows if they are shitting down, it will go down to the wire
08:49:50 <ynpvisitor> Maybe they are essential employees.
08:50:16 <Kat> I'm doing Christmas morning! :)
08:50:20 <Kat> Huh??
08:50:57 <ynpvisitor> Or like in Schindler's List, 'an essential worker'
08:50:59 <Oh My Gd> LindaG1, there's lots of that happening in DC right now
08:51:49 <Kat> Even with a shutdown, cam ops will still do their thing - all the more reason to I would think!
08:53:03 <LindaG1> Nice!
08:55:44 <LindaG1> *SHUTTING down lol
08:56:17 <Oh My Gd> That too :-/
08:56:45 <Kat> Well, haven't heard otherwise. Yes, I wanted to tell you about you SP error but I'm still laughing:lol:
08:58:08 <LindaG1> Multitasking isn't good
08:58:16 <ynpvisitor999®> I noticed it when you said it, Linda. If you had not, I probably wouldn't have seen it. Nice spelling error :D
08:59:03 <LindaG1> Autocorrect is a beast
08:59:43 <LindaG1> In this current climate its an appropriate error lol
08:59:46 <Kat> But sometimes it works!!
08:59:51 <ynpvisitor106> ha, we did not used to be able to write shitting here. I celebrate that!
08:59:56 <Kat> Amen Linda!
09:00:33 <ynpvisitor106> I hope you guys are right about the cam, it would be sad not to have it for the holidays
09:01:28 <LindaG1> I have my doubts, I think they will block us
09:01:28 <ynpvisitor> Start making your list of the 9 worst of the 49 to blame.
09:02:19 <ynpvisitor> I just wish all this was not part of a game called kick the can.
09:02:54 <ynpvisitor106> 9 worst of 49? What does that mean?
09:03:14 <LindaG1> Theyve been kicking for a long time
09:03:35 <Dave from B™> If politicians could actually work together without worrying about having to get reelected, maybe something would get done
09:03:40 <LindaG1> No bubblers yet
09:03:45 <ynpvisitor> They need 60 votes in the senate to pass it. 9 of the trump haters will have to defect to do it.
09:04:18 <LindaG1> They are voting to show they don't have votes
09:04:29 <ynpvisitor106> It's not happening visitor. This is ALL ON TRUMP. Many senators have already left for Christmas.
09:04:58 <ynpvisitor106> I know we are not political here, yet in no way can the Senate be held responsible for this.
09:05:08 <ynpvisitor106> Go Geysers.
09:05:15 <ynpvisitor> No, they can pass a funding bill that trump could not stop if they wanted to.
09:05:55 <LindaG1> Grand?
09:05:57 <ynpvisitor106> Do you live in 2018?
09:06:03 <ynpvisitor106> yep, a GEYSER
09:06:22 <LindaG1> Grand ie
09:06:25 <Kat> Yes they could! Sad that some will go without pay and/or work without pay - at Christmas!!
09:06:41 <Kat> Go Grand!
09:07:21 <LindaG1> Talk about bad visibility
09:07:30 <ynpvisitor> They will get paid. Most people I know that work for Government get paid monthly. They already have their Chrismas cash.
09:08:22 <ynpvisitor106> Let's hope the cam stays up.
09:08:36 <LindaG1> Thats better
09:09:17 <ynpvisitor> Lets hope 9 get smart and pass the dang thing.
09:09:26 <ynpvisitor106> NO
09:09:35 <ynpvisitor> Or they could do like they did on the last one and use a voice vote and go home.
09:10:09 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm not quite sure on how supportive of Trump you all are, if at all, but I hope they'll impeach Trump.
09:10:26 <ynpvisitor> FOr what?
09:10:52 <LindaG1> This is a slippery slope discussion
09:11:09 <Dave from B™> Yeah...it's best to move on to geysers
09:11:17 <ynpvisitor999®> great plan
09:11:55 <ynpvisitor> Well, I hope someone has days of footage stored so we can see reruns at least
09:12:54 <ynpvisitor999®> GOSA has a channel on which they upload timelapses of the day and night
09:13:24 <ynpvisitor> Or we will have to watch the Eagle cam
09:15:05 <LindaG1> Don't see bibblers
09:15:25 <LindaG1> *bubblers lol
09:16:36 <Eric> I think your i and u keys are backwards Linda :-D
09:16:40 <Eric> and good morning all
09:17:09 <ynpvisitor> Morning
09:17:35 <ynpvisitor> Lots of people have the day off today
09:17:59 <ynpvisitor> These are BH text numbers
09:18:10 <LindaG1> Eric, thats what the problem is!
09:19:06 <ynpvisitor> Well, back in a few for BH. Missed it by about 10 last night. Looked like it was going to be hours so I left.
09:20:00 <ynpvisitor106> ooh, sun
09:20:32 <ynpvisitor106> gotta love it that it's finally snowing once there is nothing on the radar
09:21:23 <LindaG1> Old faithful, beehive and daisy all have similar times, should be fun.
09:23:06 <Eric> unng5
09:23:17 <Eric> Fuzzy Purple Grove
09:23:48 <Eric> Snow person lost their hat :-( I bet their cold.
09:24:12 <LindaG1> And scarf and gloves
09:24:37 <LindaG1> Eric, I'm impressed u saw grove
09:31:22 <Eric> It chugs pretty hard and makes serious steam back there when it goes
09:32:46 <Kevin L™🌵> Looks like I beat BH!
09:38:53 <LindaG1> Yup, no bubblers
09:41:36 <LindaG1> Sun is trying
09:41:44 <Kevin L™🌵> I had the same issue with an AC unit Linda. Finally gave up and replaced the unit.
09:43:09 <LindaG1> It may come to that. Not to mention the bas evaporator and condenser coils that have been replaced. Froze up this summer.
09:43:45 <LindaG1> *bad
09:43:59 <Kevin L™🌵> At least I have an advantage. I have a HVAC guy living here!
09:44:17 <Eric> Man, BH intervals are all over the place....having a prediction right now is pretty silly.
09:45:08 <Kevin L™🌵> Yep. It gets that way.
09:46:01 <ynpvisitor106> nice shortish interval last night
09:46:15 <Kevin L™🌵> I was totaloly surprised when it went last Knight.
09:46:50 <Eric> I bet, with the previous one being a 26h interval, then dropping to 14h!
09:47:05 <Eric> Maybe the previous was a double?
09:48:20 <ynpvisitor999®> I doubt it, Eric
09:49:26 <ynpvisitor999®> personally I kind-of see this all-over-the-place intervals as a prelude to more regular intervals for a couple of days/weeks - a series if you want to call that
09:50:11 <Eric> Big group for OF today...guess the crowd will grow through the weekend
09:50:52 <Kevin L™🌵> Should be big crowds through New Years.
09:51:39 <ynpvisitor999®> a Christmas or New Year's Giantess would be great
09:53:27 <LindaG1> Of ie
10:02:01 <Eric> Lion puffing
10:02:12 <Eric> We seem to have a gazer out there
10:02:39 <Kevin L™🌵> :heart:🌵🌴😎
10:03:29 <Eric> I like snow, as long as I have the right clothing for it.
10:03:52 <Eric> Amazing what a difference proper clothing makes to the experience.
10:06:50 <Kat> I love it out there in Winter, so beautiful and yes proper clothes is key to enjoying it!
10:07:24 <Kevin L™🌵> Snow causes cancer.
10:08:51 <ynpvisitor106> I bet is is COLD on geyser hill right now
10:09:23 <Kat> Kevin - coming from the desert guy!
10:09:26 <Eric> 24 degrees :-D
10:09:26 <LindaG1> Dedicated gazers
10:09:52 <ynpvisitor106> it's the wind that is tough out there
10:10:10 <Eric> I actually think Sun causes cancer....but I don't want to burst your bubble :-PP
10:10:51 <Eric> Snow cures it!
10:11:05 <ynpvisitor106> clearing at West Gate. Hopefully the basin is not far behind
10:11:12 <Kevin L™🌵> So does death.
10:11:32 <Eric> :thumbsup:
10:11:46 <LindaG1> Don't see bubblers
10:11:53 <Kat> I've been in Lamar watching wolves outside in -10 degrees.
10:12:33 <ynpvisitor106> with a warm vehicle nearby
10:13:19 <Kat> Why yes of course, but we've stood out for hours sometimes!
10:13:21 <Eric> I have friends that backcountry snow camp...in snow caves.
10:13:46 <Eric> They go up and live in the snow for 2-3 days at a time.
10:13:49 <Kat> I would love to do that - I have camped in the snow back East
10:13:51 <ynpvisitor106> snow is a great insulator
10:14:00 <Eric> amazing how hot it can get in a snow cave :-D
10:14:17 <Kat> So are layered clothes:)!
10:14:46 <ynpvisitor999®> Question: I've visualised NPS Steamboat Logger's data, and was especially interested in the one on the 17th of December. I've screenshotted the eruption 'spike', however, I can't really determine where it started: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sJNEZIpwqAfUHRbYF171dRZXUTItPF0Z Any thoughts? Personally I'm thinking 1259:49.
10:14:59 <Corless> I must be doing it wrong, I get so cold so easily each year more and more as I get older
10:15:57 <Eric> Just look directly at the data...easy to find the start
10:17:43 <Kat> Corless, base layer (cold), fleece and then down pants and jacket - upper and lower. Hand warmers, foot warmers wool hat !
10:18:39 <Kevin L™🌵> Warm lodge....
10:19:50 <Dave from B™> schnaups
10:20:01 <Dave from B™> I don't like it but it works for others
10:20:07 <Eric> I go with thermals, thick pullover, 800 down, water/wind proof jacket.
10:20:39 <Eric> and good gloves are super critical too
10:20:57 <Eric> If your hands aren't warm...none of you is warm :-D
10:21:09 <LindaG1> Hands, feet and head
10:21:31 <ynpvisitor999®> so what are you saying as start time for Steamboat, Eric?
10:24:17 <LindaG1> We might be able to see daisy
10:27:48 <Eric> 1259 should be the E time IMHO
10:28:32 <Eric> It drops after that first earlier spike
10:28:46 <Kat> Of course I forgot gloves, I wear glove liners and thermal or wool gloves with hand warmers.
10:28:48 <Eric> A woohoo, but not the eruption :-D
10:29:46 <Eric> Also being a little active while in the cold makes all the difference in the world. Good winter clothing gives temperature ratings for active and non-active settings.
10:29:51 <LindaG1> Who whoohoooed?
10:30:16 <Eric> The First temp spike DG is referring to is what we call a woohoo spike
10:30:23 <Eric> at steamboat
10:30:31 <LindaG1> Oh
10:30:54 <Eric> Steamboat has it's own vocabulary :-D
10:31:22 <ynpvisitor999®> I see, thanks :)
10:31:29 <LindaG1> 😊
10:31:31 <Eric> It's what happens when you sit with a group of other geyzer nuts on a boardwalk for multiple days, in the baking sun.
10:35:05 <ynpvisitor999®> we're currently in MST, so subtracted an hour from 1259:49, as the logger is on MDT/GMT-0600
10:38:45 <LindaG1> No bubblers
10:42:17 <LindaG1> Snows not smiling
10:45:17 <Bill> That's something else that I'd like to chance in the future. I'd like our instruments to be on zulu time (GMT)
10:46:04 <ynpvisitor999®> that'd definitely be easier for converting time
10:47:06 <Bill> not sure if they use "zulu time" as a term outside the military, but that's what I've always called it
10:50:56 <LindaG1> Pesky OF
10:51:36 <LindaG1> I think may lion went off, hard to tell
11:08:08 <Eric> It's UTC time Bill...thats what all of the seismos record in.
11:14:23 <ynpvisitor86> Snowfog
11:14:59 <LindaG1> Yeah 😝
11:22:02 <Eric> Xanterra should hire a snow sculpture artist and make awesome snow people along the BW
11:22:56 <ynpvisitor86> How about some live musicians?
11:23:20 <Eric> We couldn't hear them :-(
11:23:29 <ynpvisitor86> True
11:23:38 <Eric> and they already do hire them :-P
11:23:41 <LindaG1> I could learn to make snow sculptures
11:23:52 <ynpvisitor98> Xanterra would charge more not a good idea. It would charge 50 more a night on a room
11:24:02 <Eric> We might even know one
11:24:03 <Kat> I'll volunteer!
11:24:49 <ynpvisitor86> How about a row of snow-people and a snow-kitty?
11:25:45 <Eric> I think Xanterra makes more on the extras then on the lodging...selling cheap chinese made trinkets to tourists is a cash cow.
11:26:08 <ynpvisitor98> true
11:26:13 <ynpvisitor999®> and then send a picture to Glacier NPS, with as subtitle that Yellowstone can snow sculpture too :)
11:26:39 <ynpvisitor98> but every kid needs the polished blue rock and the bow and arrow
11:26:43 <LindaG1> Glaciers snow people are cute!
11:26:57 <LindaG1> And the little dog too!
11:27:41 <Eric> do they have snow people at glacier?
11:27:57 <ynpvisitor999®> Dome
11:27:59 <LindaG1> Dome
11:28:09 <LindaG1> U beat. Me
11:28:24 <LindaG1> 😊
11:28:25 <Kat> How about people, a bison, fox, wolf etc! That would be awesome!
11:28:44 <Eric> I have never seen a bison snow sculpture before!
11:28:53 <LindaG1> Make a snow totem
11:28:56 <Kat> :) I think that would be fun!
11:29:02 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if we can see some water splashing above its cone. I'm fairly certain Dome wasn't active this morning
11:29:36 <Kat> That too Linda..we may have something here! LOL:lol:
11:29:43 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... looks like its done :(
11:30:03 <Eric> Yes, that was probably not initial
11:30:24 <Eric> It was cool catching an initial dome this summer
11:31:20 <LindaG1> Of
11:32:01 <ynpvisitor999®> GT is slow for me
11:34:54 <ynpvisitor999®> of course it goes through when I submitted three reports, causing two duplicates...
11:37:49 <LindaG1> Pictures with snow, cute
11:39:17 <Oh My Gd> Where's my sandwich, Bill?
11:39:49 <LindaG1> Bubblers I think
11:39:55 <ynpvisitor999®> yep
11:42:23 <LindaG1> Never dis see daisy
11:42:36 <LindaG1> *did
11:54:15 <LindaG1> I lion
11:54:37 <LindaG1> Maybe
11:55:13 <LindaG1> Yes
12:27:45 <LindaG1> Bubblers are bubbling
12:28:09 <Corless> :thumbsup:
12:32:48 <LindaG1> Cleared a bit down basin
12:35:55 <Oh My Gd> Is there an Indy hiding there?
12:36:05 <ynpvisitor999®> possibly
12:36:10 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:36:11 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:36:12 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:36:13 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:36:13 <ynpvisitor999®> .
12:36:14 <LindaG1> Indy
12:36:29 <Dave from B™> woohoo
12:36:48 <Kevin L™🌵> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
12:37:05 <Corless> I wonder why it always takes nearly 30 seconds for me to see what is announced
12:37:14 <Time for BH> Looks like the last BH we will see for a while.
12:37:26 <Time for BH> Delay in stream.
12:37:29 <Dave from B™> Criag, what OS do you have?
12:37:36 <Dave from B™> What browser, sorry
12:37:55 <Time for BH> Some are lucky and have it
12:38:00 <Corless> chrome
12:38:17 <Dave from B™> In the address window on this page there is an i with a circel
12:38:22 <Kat> Go Bee!
12:38:30 <Steph> Thanks for text!!
12:38:38 <LindaG1> I'm real time youbare 30 second delay
12:38:43 <Dave from B™> press that and allow flash....press the reload button that appears and then you are live
12:39:23 <Kitt> yay indy
12:39:28 <Kitt> thanks for the text
12:39:59 <Corless> thanks, Dave
12:40:29 <Time for BH> Does enabling flash allow you to see the bears doing the can-can?
12:40:42 <Kitt> no
12:40:48 <Kat> Yes:)
12:41:23 <Kitt> but staring at the computer screen too long allows you to see lots of imaginary things
12:42:05 <Corless> will the flash be on every time I open this page from now on, or do I have to do it each time
12:42:19 <Dave from B™> You have to do it each time
12:42:27 <Corless> good to know, thanks
12:44:03 <Eric> Thx for the txt
12:44:37 <LindaG1> 😊
12:44:53 <Eric> Chrome has gotten really strict with flash :-(
12:44:57 <LindaG1> Taking its time
12:45:05 <ynpvisitorCC> JUST A REMINDER: If the government shuts down the cam operators will not be able to move the controls.
12:45:19 <Steph> That.is.so.sad!
12:45:32 <Time for BH> The only thin buggier then flash is windowz
12:45:34 <Dave from B™> yw, Craig
12:45:56 <LindaG1> Thanks CC
12:46:11 <Eric> Flash is pretty solid for streaming...been doing it for 20 years :-D
12:46:32 <Eric> That is a bummer CC :-(
12:46:37 <Time for BH> Also has lots of holes that continually need to be patched.
12:47:08 <Eric> Yes, that is why Chrome turns it off by default, but it you trust the site you are going to, flash is pretty powerful
12:47:18 <Time for BH> Upgrades were not backwards compatible.
12:47:37 <Eric> Thats true for lots of technology.
12:47:40 <Time for BH> Or I should say have not always been
12:47:49 <LindaG1> Dang fog
12:47:51 <Eric> Sometimes you just have to move on...
12:48:08 <Eric> Yes, this snog is making the view poor
12:48:42 <Time for BH> Or work around it. I do not have flash on my system, works fine
12:48:48 <Corless> are there browsers you like better than Chrome? I used to use Mozilla
12:48:54 <Kat> I like that Snog!
12:49:14 <Time for BH> I do nt do business with google.
12:49:21 <Eric> Yep, if you don't mind waiting 40 seconds to see it...HLS is a decent tech
12:49:40 <Eric> Someday we will hopefully have a newer protocol for actual live streaming we can use here.
12:49:44 <Time for BH> Delay has lots of advantages.
12:50:05 <Kitt> Beehive
12:50:06 <Eric> boomm BH
12:50:08 <Kitt> boom
12:50:11 <LindaG1> Bh
12:50:17 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
12:50:20 <Corless> ok, no delay this time, cool
12:50:23 <Time for BH> See, I will not miss the start
12:50:32 <Eric> Yep...flash to the rescue :-D
12:50:43 <Time for BH> Plus I still get to see it when you aare looking at steam
12:50:54 <Corless> LOL
12:51:14 <Eric> Glad we still have some view
12:52:08 <Time for BH> Plus it is fun to call a geyser in delay you all missed.
12:52:17 <Eric> That will be sad if we have no camops over the holiday :-(
12:52:24 <Kat> Nice Bee
12:52:26 <LindaG1> Gazer
12:52:30 <Kitt> I am glad that I am watching this Beehive from inside where it is warm
12:52:32 <Oh My Gd> Geyser Gazers - people who watch white water and white steam erupting against a background of white snow and a foreground of white fog and white snowflakes.
12:52:53 <Eric> and LOVE it!
12:53:02 <Steph> Yep.
12:53:08 <Time for BH> We will still have cam ops. not like they are going to be eliminated.
12:53:11 <Oh My Gd> Exactly
12:53:17 <Time for BH> Or exterminated
12:53:22 <Eric> are you sure?
12:53:52 <Kat> Earlier I said Bee would go 1500 -1530, just a few minutes off :)
12:53:56 <Eric> Sorry, I read too much science fiction :-P
12:54:01 <Corless> GeyzerGazers Anonymous....
12:54:09 <Time for BH> Kevin has lived through the other shut downs, or been reincarnated?
12:54:23 <Kitt> have a good day
12:54:24 <Eric> They just reboot him
12:54:28 <Eric> Bye Kitt
12:54:38 <Corless> like the movie Moon?
12:54:59 <Kat> If there's a shutdown tonight - no cam operators. That's the word!
12:55:09 <Time for BH> Maybe he is just artificial intelligence? Hal was already used.
12:55:18 <Eric> I didn't see that movie Corless
12:55:30 <LindaG1> Yay finally
12:55:30 <Eric> Kevin the AI
12:55:54 <Corless> Eric, I bet you'd like it
12:56:05 <Eric> I will try to check it out
12:56:05 <Time for BH> Well, enjoy. Got to go.
12:56:16 <Corless> even if I did just give a spoiler
12:56:17 <Eric> I don't watch a lot of TV/Movies
12:57:08 <Eric> Too may geysers to watch :-D
12:57:29 <Corless> I've been watching way too much on my first winter of retirement. Summer was amazing, but now.... ughhh
12:59:49 <Eric> You should start posting pictures of your TV on facebook ;-)
13:00:09 <Corless> OMG
13:01:16 <ynpvisitor90> can't have volunteer cam ops working during a shutdown?
13:03:22 <Eric> Not sure where that mandate comes from....but I guess not.
13:03:37 <Eric> Didn't come from Zinke...
13:05:26 <LindaG1> Aurum?
13:06:24 <LindaG1> Grove
13:08:10 <LindaG1> Dome
13:12:56 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
13:13:15 <LindaG1> Lion
13:14:18 <LindaG1> of
13:19:40 <Steph> Thanks for a beautiful afternoon! :bee::lion::gt: Woot! But I really need to buckle down and get that Christmas candy made! Have a great winter solstice everybody!
13:19:59 <ynpvisitor999®> same to you, Steph
13:20:51 <LindaG1> Thanks Steph you too, enjoy the holidays.
13:21:52 <LindaG1> Nevwr dis see daisy or riverside
13:22:43 <LindaG1> *Never did see
13:23:35 <Kat> And it clears right up!
13:24:21 <LindaG1> Of course! Lol
13:25:15 <ynpvisitor83> We camera operators work for a person that works for the u.s. government, in this case the national park system. We are arms of that person that works for the u.s. government and therefore not permitted to work under them while there is a government shutdown
13:36:40 <LindaG1> Well I hope everyone has a good night. It was fun. Hopefully we'll be able to run cam tomorrow but I have my doubts. I hope they leave it on.
14:03:29 <Kat> Grand?
14:03:32 <Dave from B™> We're making a push for our best day in our history in the market...2 more hours to go
14:03:46 <Eric> congrats Dave
14:04:05 <Eric> All due to your social media campaign ;-)
14:04:09 <Kevin L™🌵> Nice. No Islands in there?
14:04:15 <Eric> Give that girl a raise!
14:05:33 <Kevin L™🌵> Goes to show you can have a good day after a bad Knight.
14:24:54 <ynpvisitor999®> c'mon Lion, keep going
14:26:06 <ynpvisitor999®> oh, and if US government goes in shutdown, could the cam at least be positioned so that Dome is in view too?
14:26:23 <ynpvisitor999®> Lion
14:27:16 <Kevin L™🌵> Wide view goes from Castle to Giantess. Dome visible on static.
14:28:04 <ynpvisitor999®> so no leaving the cam in a different position until shutdown passes?
14:35:31 <Kevin L™🌵> If you have it on dome it won't reach Castle.
14:36:08 <ynpvisitor999®> hmm... I thought the cam could zoom out further. Guess I was wrong
14:44:52 <STS> My live cam isn't working, but OF on still?
14:45:05 <STS> Or is that just a bunch of steam?
14:45:22 <ynpvisitor999®> all up and running for me
14:45:32 <Kevin L™🌵> Mine aare working
14:45:39 <ynpvisitor999®> two persons just walked out of frame to the right
14:46:17 <STS> Hmmm. It's been doing this lately. I'm wondering if something isn't supported on my laptop.
14:46:48 <ynpvisitor999®> probably Flash is getting disabled because safety concerns
14:47:12 <ynpvisitor999®> Chrome does that every time in my experience
14:48:01 <Eric> of
14:48:12 <Eric> 1647
14:48:24 <Dave from B™> Just don't turn off the seismo!
14:48:55 <ynpvisitor83> It is probably your wireless, my laptop/tablet does that often, refresh brings it back, but it is frustrating
14:48:59 <Eric> The park will probably be free to enter if the government shuts down. I assume they won't man the gates
14:55:08 <ynpvisitor83> the last shutdown they had LE but nothing else
15:00:12 <Dave from B™> Time to get out of here. Have a great evening everyone!
15:00:26 <ynpvisitor999®> night Dave
15:00:29 <Kevin L™🌵> God Knight Dave.
15:05:10 <ynpvisitor999®> Daisy?
15:05:29 <ynpvisitor999®> Grand ie/ns
15:08:04 <ynpvisitor106> The Yellowstone FB pages have put out a notice on how the shutdown will affect Yellowstone Eric
15:08:34 <ynpvisitor106> pretty much business as usual, no mention of the web cam in the article.
15:10:03 <ynpvisitor106> gates will be open yet not staffed
15:13:14 <ynpvisitor999®> 9m
15:13:51 <Eric> Thanks 106...similar to the last shutdown then
15:14:24 <ynpvisitor106> yes
15:15:13 <ynpvisitor106> I wonder what the NPS will charge per hour for grooming roads?
15:15:31 <ynpvisitor999®> b1 done
15:15:34 <Eric> I find it silly that volunteers can't keep manning the camera. It's not like they stop manning it when the NPS employee is off for the day or on vacation.
15:16:09 <ynpvisitor106> I'm with you Eric. I would think Canon could convince the park to keep it up. Thousands watch it.
15:16:10 <ynpvisitor999®> a weird construction, really
15:16:10 <Eric> I know the volunteers have no control over this so please don't take my comment personally :-|
15:16:59 <ynpvisitor106> No visitor center for people either, Snow Lodge lobby will be packed.
15:17:26 <ynpvisitor106> looks like Grand was one and done 999
15:17:33 <ynpvisitor999®> yes
15:18:32 <ynpvisitor106> Snow Lodge rest rooms and the ones near Geyser Grill are going to be jamming
15:18:35 <ynpvisitor58> we work directly for a Gov"t employee, therefore we can't work either
15:19:02 <ynpvisitor106> you are volunteers, it makes no sense to us from our side
15:19:14 <Eric> Do you work when they are on vacation?
15:19:21 <Eric> or have weekend days off?
15:19:27 <ynpvisitor106> someone is at Lion
15:20:16 <Eric> Technical, you work for the federal government if you are a parks volunteer. Probably supervised by a specific employee.
15:20:40 <ynpvisitor58> yes but we are always under their direction if they are working or not
15:21:00 <Eric> there ya go...you are under their direction, they are not working :-D
15:21:59 <Eric> I don't have to argue it...still doesn't make sense to me and I hope it all works out for everyone soon.
15:23:14 <ynpvisitor58> one could go rogue and operate the cam but it would probably be the last time operating :)
15:24:25 <ynpvisitor999®> I'd probably be that person if I had access to cam controls :P
15:26:52 <ynpvisitor106> I will miss seeing the basin during Christmas week. I don't expect Congress will reconvene until the New Year, so it will be awhile. Very bad timing.
15:28:18 <Eric> I like the idea of rogue camops :-D shhh, we won't say a word :-P
15:30:24 <ynpvisitor106> if it could appear on chat only we might get away with it
15:31:21 <Eric> Don't they know taking away things from addicts is bad :-D
15:31:28 <ynpvisitor106> no nice clear skies for viewing until 2200 either
15:31:29 <ynpvisitor999®> I sometimes can be rather rogue, especially if I disagree with how things usually go and to me don't make sense in whatever way possible
15:31:41 <ynpvisitor999®> this is definitely an example of such a thing
15:31:49 <Kevin L™🌵> That is why I retired when I did.
15:32:07 <Eric> That's why they don't let us play with the nice toys DG
15:32:20 <ynpvisitor999®> sadly :(
15:32:31 <ynpvisitor106> well see everyone, sometime...night.
15:32:47 <Eric> Night 106
15:33:03 <ynpvisitor999®> bye 106
15:33:03 <Kevin L™🌵> Good Knight
15:38:54 <LindaG> Eric, alt camops
15:46:11 <ynpvisitor999®> I'm off. Enjoy Lion
15:46:11 <LindaG> Full moon tonight if the clouds would clear it would be nice.
15:46:24 <LindaG> Goodnight 999
15:46:39 <Kevin L™🌵> Good Knight DG
15:47:15 <Kevin L™🌵> The moon is on shutdown too.
15:47:30 <LindaG> Did you see bee kevin?
15:47:42 <Kevin L™🌵> Yes I did
15:47:49 <LindaG> Kevin? Good
15:48:20 <LindaG> I didn't type that. I said oh good kevin
15:49:27 <Kevin L™🌵> Today is one of the days where I probably would have been better off just staying in bed though.
15:51:36 <Kevin L™🌵> I did get you pen drilled and painted though.
16:16:56 <LindaG1> Oh nice, excited about pen.
16:17:39 <LindaG1> Maybe clouds will cooperate
16:18:30 <Kevin L™🌵> That would be nice
16:41:52 <LindaG1> No compromise reached, Senate and house have adjourned
16:42:09 <Kevin L™🌵> Surprise
16:42:26 <LindaG1> Yup
16:43:07 <LindaG1> Hope they leave camera on at least. Said it would be partial shutdown
16:43:39 <Kevin L™🌵> Me too. They did the last time.
17:03:38 <ynpvisitor104> Joe said cam goes away with shutdown
17:04:55 <ynpvisitor104> Only 3 hours left yet maybe we’ll get the weekend with no one being around to shut it down
17:08:41 <LindaG> Now that's depressing
17:10:54 <Kevin L™🌵> Check your emial Linda.
17:20:14 <LindaG> Look like ghosts
17:21:55 <Kevin L™🌵> On the plus side, the days are getting longer now!
17:22:47 <LindaG> Yes its exciting. Summer solstice always freaks me out, seems to co e too soon.
17:23:37 <LindaG> *come
17:23:58 <Kevin L™🌵> We like Winter here. Summer is the season we hate.
17:24:36 <LindaG> I'm sure it gets real hot
17:25:13 <Kevin L™🌵> Yes it does. Growing up in it though makes it not as bad.
17:26:30 <LindaG> I'm assuming that's why you prefer winter
17:27:20 <Kevin L™🌵> Sure is. I am just glad I don't have to work in the heat anymore. :P
17:28:14 <LindaG> This summer here it was 95 with 95 percent humidity, horrible
17:30:10 <Kevin L™🌵> The worst day I had was in Laughlin. We were doing opengrade pavement that comes out about 325° and I had to locate manholes. Air temp that day was 123°. Went through about 4 gallons of water.
17:32:08 <LindaG> Yikes. That sounds brutal. I was in Phoenix once and it was 120. It was like being in an oven.
17:33:12 <Kevin L™🌵> Laughlin was the worst spot. It is right on the Colorado River so you have high humidity to boot.
17:34:36 <LindaG> Humidity makes it far worse. I was happy to leave this summer for Grand Canyon, just to get away from humidity
17:36:36 <Kevin L™🌵> I like it under 10% myself.
17:37:03 <LindaG> That's pretty dry
17:37:59 <Kevin L™🌵> Most of the time we get between 4% to 20%
17:39:33 <LindaG> Dont know if I could take it that low. 30% or 40% seems good here
17:40:48 <LindaG> Not the norm though
17:42:09 <Kevin L™🌵> The weather in Germany drove me nuts. I was always wet. Only place I could dry out was the cactus room at Palmergarten.
17:43:30 <LindaG> Sounds like New Jersey
17:45:33 <LindaG> Maybe we'll see daisy, missednit today
17:45:55 <Kevin L™🌵> It is clear enough to see it.
17:49:15 <LindaG> I think that is daisy
17:49:31 <Kevin L™🌵> I think you are right
17:59:35 <LindaG> Riverside
17:59:50 <LindaG> OF
18:00:13 <LindaG> S/b riverside ie
18:23:13 <Kevin L™🌵> Still a nice view even with the clouds.
18:23:53 <LindaG> Yes light is pretty good
18:24:51 <LindaG> I have to go out and look at moon.
18:25:27 <Kevin L™🌵> Kind of hazy here.
18:26:59 <LindaG> Clouds were rolling by, it's starting to clear here. I could see the moon between clouds
18:30:28 <LindaG> Wow moon totally clouded over now. Oh well
18:31:22 <LindaG> Good night enjoy the view
18:39:44 <ynpvisitor52> Hour and a half and they shut the geysers off.
18:55:00 <ynpvisitor117> Is Castle ie?
18:55:19 <ynpvisitor58> yes
18:55:44 <ynpvisitor117> ty -
19:55:23 <ynpvisitor34> 5 minutes until Wackoland :(
20:15:43 <ynpvisitor8> Yeah, the cam still lives! For now.