Showing logs for date: 2019-02-01
23:19:26 <Frank> I'm going to put computer to sleep. I'll cast & log from app when needed. Be back in a bit
02:04:42 <Frank> ****I may have just missed a BH or Lion**** Please check capture, it's dark. Thanks :)
02:59:51 <LindaG> Morning Frank
03:00:35 <Frank> Good Morning Linda. Hope you slept well.
03:01:17 <LindaG> Yes I did. I'm on east coast and an early riser.
03:02:04 <Frank> New Jersey, if I remember.
03:02:15 <LindaG> Yup
03:03:40 <Frank> It's nice to see it clearing. Lots of fog earlier.
03:03:51 <LindaG> Well the stars are out. I'll be on webcam all day, hopefully it will be good viewing.
03:04:16 <LindaG> Yay OF
03:04:23 <Frank> They must have came out for you.
03:04:40 <LindaG> 😊
03:05:39 <Frank> I hope BH goes back to days. No fun on moonless nights.
03:07:25 <LindaG> It keeps swinging from day to night and then back.
03:07:28 <Frank> I'll let you do posting from now on, if ok.
03:07:55 <LindaG> Sure take a break.
03:09:28 <Frank> You & all the rest have a great day. Good viewing. I do doubt my 21:16 Daisy. See you around 5 your time.
03:10:12 <LindaG> Ok they will look at reruns, don't worry.
04:39:51 <LindaG> So much for seeing OF
04:40:09 <KittyM*> I know!
04:40:21 <LindaG> Morning kitty and dave
04:40:30 <CraigC> morning
04:40:40 <LindaG> Morning craig
04:40:44 <CraigC> looks like everything in the basin is erupting
04:40:52 <CraigC> hey Linda
04:40:57 <Dave from B™> Morning everyone!
04:41:02 <CraigC> hey Dave
04:41:07 <CraigC> hey Kitty
04:41:22 <KittyM*> Morning Craig, Linda, Dave
04:41:35 <LindaG> Morning Dave
04:42:09 <LindaG> OF is due but cant see a thing
04:44:27 <Mike J> Good blurry morning to all
04:44:43 <LindaG> Good morning!
04:45:45 <KittyM*> Good morning Mike
04:46:25 <Dave from B™> I hope we see Joe here today
04:46:52 <Dave from B™> Did you all see the FB post of the trees neat Steamboat? WOWZA
04:46:54 <LindaG> I hope so too, that would be nice.
04:47:00 <Dave from B™> near*
04:47:18 <LindaG> No where was it posted?
04:47:20 <KittyM*> is that on GG FB?
04:47:36 <LindaG> That makes sense
04:47:40 <CraigC> Dave from B™, yeah, it was cool. It wasn't set to to be able to share.
04:47:41 <Dave from B™> 2 places. I believe GG and the Hub
04:48:29 <KittyM*> I see it, wow!
04:50:07 <LindaG> Oh cool, looks like a Gaudi sculpture or building.
04:51:13 <CraigC> another great blog from Janet, this one on Riverside; https://yellowstonenaturalist.com/2019/01/get-to-know-riverside-geyser/?fbclid=IwAR1vZ1Evv6nEAlK-KGjvCsY3lVRKu9CdbgAAQhfuhty-F2cHrEhiqybeaTo
04:52:08 <KittyM*> Thanks, Craig!
04:54:50 <Dave from B™> Craig, how's the injury this morning?
04:56:52 <CraigC> haha, thanks for reminding me that I am supposed to be in pain
05:21:22 <LindaGp> Nice sun is out
05:21:56 <KittyM*> yes!
05:39:16 <LindaGp> Don't see bubblers
05:54:24 <Eric> Morning
05:54:29 <Eric> interesting fog layer
05:54:55 <LindaGp> Morning eric
05:55:16 <Dave from B™> Morning Eric
05:57:14 <Eric> Hi Linda and Dave
05:57:22 <Eric> Any word on Joe yet?
05:58:11 <LindaGp> Not that I know of
05:59:10 <LindaGp> Cool glow in back of OF
06:08:26 <CraigC> hey Eric
06:11:15 <Eric> Hi Craig
06:16:08 <STS> It's a foggy day in YNP-town
06:16:20 <LindaGp> Sure is
06:18:01 <STS> GOSA uploaded overnight. Looks like OF went at 6:34
06:18:10 <STS> I'll enter it
06:20:20 <STS> Have we seen OF yet? Last eruption looked like a short
06:20:32 <STS> I haven't been watching today.
06:20:49 <LindaGp> No it hasn't gone off yet
06:21:11 <LindaGp> It's taking its time
06:21:31 <STS> It's had quite a few intervals in the 1 hr 30 minute range
06:21:49 <STS> It's about time it's had a longer interval ;)
06:23:09 <STS> There's some preplay
06:24:41 <LindaGp> It did it like a half hour ago
06:25:04 <STS> It does that sometimes :)
06:27:50 <LindaGp> I'm starting to feel like I missed an eruption. It's going to be 2 hours soon
06:28:05 <STS> NPS would have a prediction up
06:28:12 <Dave from B™> 2 hours can happen
06:28:56 <LindaGp> Ok t dis have preplay a couple of times since 6:30
06:29:10 <STS> Jarno said he's seen it at like 2hr10min before
06:29:41 <Eric> That is really stretching it...but these long intervals usually go around 2h
06:30:03 <Kevin L™🌵> Off to the races....
06:30:20 <LindaGp> OF i think
06:30:21 <Eric> looks ie on static
06:30:30 <STS> There it goes
06:30:55 <STS> I'll put it as 8:29
06:31:01 <Eric> wow...that contrast is horrible!
06:31:20 <LindaGp> Sounds right
06:31:23 <STS> It really is lol
06:31:42 <CraigC> Kevin L™🌵, enjoy
06:32:07 <Eric> haha...I thought Kevin meant OF was off to the races :-P
06:32:10 <LindaGp> Have a good time kevin
06:32:11 <Eric> Have fun Kevin
06:32:33 <LindaGp> The camera keeps dropping on me.
06:32:52 <Eric> Use a tripod :-P
06:33:21 <LindaGp> 😊
06:33:45 <Jake> why'd they convert the cam to black and white?
06:34:23 <Jake> must be saving on pixel costs
06:34:24 <LindaGp> Dirt on the dome isn't helping
06:34:26 <Eric> Cost reduction
06:34:33 <Eric> :-D
06:34:57 <Eric> Yep, that dome build up is really bad
06:35:32 <LindaGp> I can't zoom it out
06:35:41 <Eric> We need a 2nd dome! If I knew who could replace it, I would start a gofundme page for it :-P
06:37:05 <Jake> Homeless veteran with failing eyesight needs money for reconstructive surgery
06:39:19 <Eric> The replacement domes cost about $100
06:39:47 <Eric> everyone chip in $5 and easy peasy, the view is clear again!
06:40:58 <Jimbo Radium> I'm in
06:41:06 <Eric> The problem is the domes are plastic so the geyserite just bonds to them.
06:41:21 <Eric> Only solution is regular replacement
06:41:43 <Jimbo Radium> Glass would etch if acidic gas hits it
06:41:44 <Eric> But I guess we could be switching to an entirely new camera, so that could be a waste.
06:41:55 <Jake> if they move the cam, it won't need replacing
06:42:24 <Eric> acidic gas? Do some geysers actually spit that?
06:43:30 <Eric> or is it the opposite of what I said....geyserite sticks to real glass, not poly? Now I don't remember :-|
06:44:30 <Jimbo Radium> I would think it more likely that geyserite would stick to real glass, as both are silica
06:44:40 <Jake> some geysers have acidic water
06:45:16 <Eric> ahhh, well...my spread of disinformation has begun...now to go exercise!
06:45:21 <Jimbo Radium> Yeah, I forgot my basin chemistry. Norris is acidic, the other basins are alkaline
06:46:23 <LindaGp> I think it's dirty 😆
06:47:30 <Jake> surprisingly, there are some acidic features in the UGB. Infant Geyser right next to Giantess and then more off-trail upstream of OF and the cabins
06:48:28 <Jimbo Radium> That's some interesting geochemistry
06:48:38 <Casey> I was about to ask that, Jake. I know in Norris there are vastly different levels of acidity with different features.
06:49:29 <Jimbo Radium> I recall that the Porcelain Basin springs are pretty acidic?
06:51:12 <Jake> there are some geysers that don't "bead" their geyserite in rounded shapes but in spiky shapes which is an indication that the water has some acidity (I don't know the specifics of how that works)
06:51:41 <Casey> Interesting. During its eruptive history Infant Geyser was alkaline. It is now highly acidic.
06:51:48 <Ryan(hw)> Porcelain is quite alkaline I think.
06:51:58 <Ryan(hw)> Back Basin is acidic (Echinus)
06:52:39 <Casey> I though Norris as a whole was acidic (maybe with some exceptions). Echinus is definitely acidic.
06:52:41 <Ryan(hw)> But Pearl Geyser (back basin) and Porkchop Geyser are alkaline despite being in the middle of the Back Basin
06:52:56 <Casey> Interesting.
06:53:05 <Casey> I'll have to recheck my sources.
06:53:09 <Dave from B™> What do you think of possible health effects to long term exposure to acidic thermal features (or alkaline features) for that matter?
06:53:12 <Ryan(hw)> Vixen has alternated. The new activity has happened with a change to alkaline and is depositing geyserite at super rapid rates.
06:53:46 <Ryan(hw)> Some people reported respiratory problems from sitting at Steamboat - granted they were there for weeks.
06:54:35 <Dave from B™> That was why I brought it up. I heard that from at least one person on the platform
06:55:12 <LindaGp> Cloud out there, grand?
06:55:42 <LindaGp> Grand?
06:55:47 <Casey> I believe so
06:55:57 <Dave from B™> Time is right
06:56:10 <LindaGp> Ok ill enter
06:56:11 <Casey> It would be hard to blame it on acidity specifically given all the possible precipitates, but I suspect the air around Steamboat is anything but "clean".
06:56:33 <Casey> I doubt there is any solid indication that it is unhealthy long term though.
06:56:56 <CraigC> said Phillip Morris :)
06:57:20 <Jimbo Radium> Here's a paper about acidic springs around Norris, esp. Back Basin and the Raggedy Hills area, which I hadn't heard of before: https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/01/31/lake-michigan-is-frozen-wonderland-photos-are-perfection/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/01/31/like-bathing-ice-water-fully-clothed-my-encounter-with-polar-vortex/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/artic
06:57:22 <Casey> Plausible deniability
06:57:42 <Dave from B™> We probably shouldn't talk about this...it will end up on you know who's news blog
06:57:49 <Jake> some epidemiologist is going to write many papers in 20 years on their discovery of the source of lung problems
06:57:58 <Jimbo Radium> Oops, wrong link. Here's the right one: https://wwwbrr.cr.usgs.gov/projects/GWC_chemtherm/pubs/ofr%2002-382.pdf
06:58:20 <Casey> My "spouse" is already working on a video
06:58:31 <Jimbo Radium> The polar vortex article is good too. :-}
06:59:21 <Dave from B™> Casey, what kind of video?
07:00:38 <Casey> Respiratory problems at Steamboat = Impending doom video
07:01:59 <Jimbo Radium> H2S is more dangerous, of course
07:02:03 <Casey> Did I expect to much by referring to a reference from a previous day? There was a comment about "Mary Greeley" being my spouse for some reason, so I just ran with it.
07:02:03 <CraigC> you and Mary are an item?
07:02:26 <Casey> At least Craig caught it.
07:02:35 <Jake> this is the biggest bombshell to hit chat maybe ever
07:02:52 <Casey> You know she has a source, right?
07:03:02 <Jake> can't trust anyone online these days
07:03:07 <CraigC> I'm sure people will get plenty of mileage with it
07:03:58 <Casey> My first patreon pledge was withdrawn today. I figured that covers any damage I may cause for sharing insider knowledge.
07:04:06 <Ryan(hw)> Wait is this real?
07:04:12 <LindaGp> Fake news 😉
07:04:35 <CraigC> real fake
07:05:01 <STS> But there's been an increase in ancient helium!!!!!!!
07:05:07 <CraigC> this will take some heat off of Dave
07:05:11 <STS> Head for the hills!!!!!
07:05:22 <Casey Greeley> Is this better?
07:05:31 <STS> LOL
07:05:46 <Casey> That's too shameful. One comment is all I could take.
07:05:48 <LindaGp> These trees look cool
07:06:06 <STS> I didn't even notice the fog had somewhat cleared
07:06:08 <Ryan(hw)> Its really hard to tell sarcasm on this page lol
07:06:19 <LindaGp> Lol
07:06:36 <STS> If i put a bunch of exclamation points, 99% of the time i'm being sarcastic haha
07:07:04 <Casey> TRUTH: I have never met Mary Greeley. I do not endorse anything she says.
07:07:08 <CraigC> sarcasm is my default.... I have to say "for real" or "seriously" to express otherwise
07:08:37 <Casey> 11:05:54 ‹Dave from B™› You're Mary's spouse, Casey?
07:08:47 <Casey> It was Dave's fault (from 11/29)
07:09:16 <Casey> 1/29
07:09:56 <STS> Fun fact, she apparently only lives 90 minutes north of me
07:11:27 <STS> What's the cam zooming in on?
07:11:45 <LindaGp> Hmmm don't see bubblers wonder if it went off during the night
07:12:41 <LindaGp> It was beehive
07:13:51 <LindaGp> Castle looks bigger
07:14:50 <Casey> Sasquatch?
07:14:53 <LindaGp> It was predicted for 7:30am
07:15:46 <LindaGp> I think that's what started the whole mary conversation
07:16:03 <Casey> It certainly was part of that conversation.
07:16:46 <Casey> Depth perception is tough with all the colors muted by fog and snow.
07:17:30 <LindaGp> I always center using thee trees in the back so this makes it harder
07:19:04 <Casey> Blue sky!
07:19:18 <LindaGp> Yay
07:20:04 <Larry in Denver> Morning all
07:20:24 <LindaGp> Morning
07:22:02 <Larry in Denver> That's odd. I wonder why I timed out?
07:23:06 <LindaGp> I thought maybe it was something we said 😉
07:24:44 <Larry in Denver> No, not that. Another mystery for Eric to solve
07:27:32 <Larry in Denver> Linda, where in NJ do you live?
07:28:07 <LindaGp> In southern new jersey, by the shore
07:28:54 <Larry in Denver> Ah, I grew up in Trenton, spent time at Lake Absigami and have a good friend in Hammonton
07:29:20 <LindaGp> I'm in Manahawkin, close to long beach island
07:29:54 <LindaGp> I'm originally from North jersey
07:30:17 <Larry in Denver> One of my favorite places. Also used to ride the beach train at Point Pleasant
07:31:35 <LindaGp> Disnt know they had one. Thats neat. Spent most of my youth atbthe shore around Asbury park or wildwood.
07:32:16 <LindaGp> Now cape may is one of my favorite places
07:32:55 <Larry in Denver> We have a lot of haunts in common then. My brother lives near Deal, neighbors ran pork roll stands in Wildwood
07:33:39 <LindaGp> No taylor ham! Jersey joke
07:34:09 <LindaGp> Pork roll in the south, taylor ham in the north
07:34:17 <Larry in Denver> Oh you northerner!
07:34:48 <LindaGp> Not sure why its just the way it is.
07:34:59 <Larry in Denver> Or was that Joisey?
07:35:23 <LindaGp> 😊
07:35:28 <Dave from B™> Casey, I fell for that one and I was the one who spread the rumor in the first place:)
07:36:57 <Larry in Denver> Beautiful views from Mt Washburn this AM
07:38:36 <LindaGp> That does look nice and old faithful area looks good too
07:39:08 <LindaGp> Amazing the different camera views
07:45:43 <LindaGp> of ie
07:46:49 <STS> Hmm. NPS was wrong
07:47:39 <LindaGp> About 15 min earlier than prediction
07:47:57 <LindaGp> Nice on static
07:48:05 <STS> It falls into the short eruption interval
07:51:08 <LindaGp> Think That was long?
07:51:49 <STS> We'll see what the NPS thinks ;)
07:52:13 <LindaGp> 😄
07:52:15 <STS> They thought it was a long
07:52:38 <LindaGp> Ok
07:54:36 <LindaGp> Not sure when castle went but it was a major
07:59:33 <Casey> I had been watching on delay this whole time without noticing. Fixed that.
08:00:29 <LindaGp> I'm always on delay
08:03:39 <CraigC> I just took mine off delay, I forget to when I first join
08:06:38 <Casey> Yeah. Chrome used to remember my settings for that. Now I have to change it every time.
08:12:46 <LindaGp> This fog is taking forever to clear
08:22:58 <CraigC> hopefully clear soon
08:24:36 <Eric> Casey...Chrome updated their security to make it even more difficult to use flash :-|
08:24:47 <Eric> Hence you having to reset allowing flash each time.
08:24:56 <Betty> morning guys
08:25:04 <Eric> I believe there is a setting you can change to fix that though
08:25:06 <Eric> Hi Betty
08:25:18 <Betty> hi Eric
08:25:26 <LindaGp> Hi betty
08:25:36 <Eric> https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2164648-how-to-permanently-allow-flash-player-on-chrome
08:25:40 <Eric> Do that
08:25:46 <Betty> hi Linda
08:27:55 <Eric> Too funny...Tivo has a feature to let you auto-skip the game and go directly to the commercials if you have it recorded :-P
08:28:02 <Eric> For superbowl
08:29:20 <Dave from B™> haha
08:30:40 <Betty> hi Dave
08:34:54 <CraigC> hi Betty
08:35:01 <CraigC> Eric, that is hilarious
08:35:16 <CraigC> hey fish
08:35:33 <STS> This fog needs to leave
08:35:49 <STS> "You are not welcome here"
08:35:50 <Betty> hi Craig, STS and fishynp
08:35:56 <LindaGp> Where's that big fan thatbwe had?
08:35:59 <STS> Good morning Betty
08:36:21 <CraigC> STS, did you check the Castle in question? I haven't looked at GT
08:37:53 <STS> I haven't, I'll do that now.
08:37:58 <CraigC> cool
08:39:53 <Dave from B™> Ni Betty
08:39:57 <Dave from B™> Hi Betty
08:40:53 <STS> Just watched Craig. That sure looks like an eruption to me.
08:42:03 <LindaGp> It's been going for a while
08:44:16 <STS> I edited my note on it as well if anyone wants to take a look.
08:44:26 <CraigC> STS, thanks
08:45:22 <STS> Ranger Rebecca for Daisy
08:48:14 <STS> Finally starting to clear out for the time being
08:49:08 <LindaGp> Bee is quiet
09:01:40 <Dave from B™> Did I mention I love Super Bowl week in the market?:)
09:03:09 <LindaGp> Lots of customers?
09:03:23 <Dave from B™> You Betcha
09:05:19 <Betty> ddoggies
09:05:22 <LindaGp> Lots of doggies
09:05:30 <Eric> Nice herd
09:06:14 <Dave from B™> Nice treat for everyone on the bw
09:12:38 <CraigC> I missed them, where are the bison?
09:13:24 <Eric> on the left of the screen
09:13:33 <CraigC> oh yeah
09:13:45 <Eric> They wandered in front of OF
09:13:48 <Dave from B™> :i:<<<
09:13:53 <CraigC> thanks
09:14:01 <CraigC> Dave from B™, LOL
09:14:50 <LindaGp> Old faithful is going soon
09:15:12 <LindaGp> OF else I'd show the bison
09:15:32 <LindaGp> *or
09:15:48 <Eric> Grotto looks happy
09:15:57 <Eric> steam lingering down there
09:16:14 <Betty> so it is Grappy?
09:16:50 <Dave from B™> Almost time to start seismo watching
09:17:16 <CraigC> yup
09:18:00 <LindaGp> Bison are leaving 🙁
09:18:03 <CraigC> I'll see if my gf will do all the cooking and cleaning this weekend so I can sit her and watch YNM
09:18:08 <CraigC> here
09:18:48 <Eric> riversided
09:18:53 <LindaGp> So what's that out by grotto
09:19:03 <CraigC> nice
09:19:04 <LindaGp> Riverside?
09:19:08 <Eric> yep
09:19:16 <Eric> 11:18
09:19:25 <LindaGp> Ok
09:19:29 <Casey> Riverside is the one right of Grotto (pretty much centered in the frame)
09:20:46 <CraigC> I'm always hesitant on calling it until I really read the wind
09:27:05 <STS> Awww, did I see I missed the bison?
09:27:30 <LindaGp> Hey a herd passed in front of OF
09:27:42 <STS> Boo.
09:27:51 <Eric> Riverside, Riverside, wherefore art thou Riverside?
09:27:51 <LindaGp> *Yeah
09:27:58 <STS> At least I saw the herd that chilled in front of OF yesterday morning
09:28:15 <Eric> Does the wind read like that Craig?
09:28:23 <LindaGp> Its there in yonder meadow
09:28:34 <Dave from B™> Craig, I did listen to the phone number song last night
09:28:54 <Eric> By any other name would smell as sweet;
09:29:11 <LindaGp> As riverside
09:29:36 <Dave from B™> My son, Parker, refers to Riverside as Shoe Geyser. Look at the cone if you want to know why
09:30:16 <LindaGp> OF ie
09:30:57 <CraigC> looking at the wind, I believe that is OF, right? :)
09:31:51 <STS> I entered as 11:29
09:32:29 <LindaGp> Sounds good I'm on delay
09:32:49 <STS> I'm on a 30 second dealy
09:32:51 <STS> delay*
09:33:53 <LindaGp> Well my phone is 30 sec. Thats where I enter from but I think the camera on y tablet is real time
09:41:52 <Betty> nice Solitary steam
09:42:17 <LindaGp> Yeah it was steaming yesterday too
09:47:17 <LindaGp> No bubblers
09:49:01 <LindaGp> Lunchtime leaving wide but watching
09:56:48 <LindaGp> Bee burp
10:15:48 <Dave from B™> LC ie
10:18:07 <CraigC> where did seismo go
10:18:31 <Dave from B™> wow...that's weird
10:18:44 <CraigC> Eric?
10:18:49 <Dave from B™> Eric, are you here?
10:18:51 <Dave from B™> haha
10:19:23 <CraigC> Maybe he is working on it, a little icon appeared then disappeared
10:20:08 <CraigC> the icon was a dead end to the seismo site
10:20:40 <Eric> on phone
10:20:54 <Kevin L™🌵> Dave broke the seismo?
10:21:13 <Dave from B™> Aren't you supposed to be staring at cars?
10:21:22 <CraigC> LOL
10:21:41 <Kevin L™🌵> I am back.
10:21:54 <CraigC> Kevin L™🌵, how was it
10:22:32 <Kevin L™🌵> pretty interesting. Watched it sitting on the pit wall.
10:22:55 <Eric> Utah broke their seismos!
10:23:06 <Jake> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/quake.utah.edu
10:23:13 <Jake> quake.utah.edu is down
10:23:15 <LindaGp> Lion ie
10:23:22 <Eric> https://quake.utah.edu/
10:23:59 <fishynp> We are having some network issues here at UUSS. We'll get them up as soon as we can.
10:24:00 <Jake> which is the first sign of a supervolcanic eruption
10:24:01 <LindaGp> Is tryin
10:24:21 <Jake> sweet death is all that awaits us now
10:24:29 <Jake> oh, and this Lion initial
10:24:38 <Dave from B™> Thanks Jamie
10:24:39 <CraigC> fishynp, thanks for letting us know, we can be drama queens
10:25:06 <Jimbo Radium> That's good-looking
10:25:19 <fishynp> Data is still coming in to us, we just can't get anything out to the rest of the world at this point.
10:25:28 <Jake> I forget, what is the moral of the story for chicken little/the sky is falling?
10:25:50 <CraigC> he gets fried and eaten
10:25:55 <Jake> does the sky actually fall and kill everyone and he gets to say I told you so?
10:26:11 <Eric> seismo is back
10:26:20 <CraigC> :thumbsup:
10:26:32 <Kevin L™🌵> I think it was the Colonel's ax that was falling.
10:26:50 <Eric> Thanks Jamie
10:27:02 <Jake> seismos are back, just had to switch them over to the Deep State's servers
10:28:13 <Eric> apparently if the seismo images get hung up here, the chat won't load for some :-(
10:28:32 <CraigC> Lion is one of the most pleasing geysers to the eye
10:29:00 <Kevin L™🌵> I Love the initials
10:29:02 <Casey> So, why is the government trying to hide our impending doom again? I never remember that part.
10:29:06 <Jake> apparently there are several versions of Chicken Little that have alternate endings/moral lessons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Penny
10:29:42 <CraigC> Does Chicken Little have a Youtube channel?
10:32:58 <Jake> he's dead so no
10:35:31 <Jake> his estate maintains a channel but it's mainly for the purpose of selling memorabilia
10:36:22 <LindaGp> 🙁 I think bee is still on the dark side
10:36:33 <Dave from B™> Jake, feeling a bit sleep deprived?
10:38:03 <Steph> Hi all! I am so lost in this conversation, I'm going to have to go back and read the day!! ;):lol:
10:39:11 <LindaGp> Might be hard to follow 😂
10:39:13 <Dave from B™> Hi, Steph. It might be wise just to start from here instead of going back:)
10:39:21 <Jake> I would be feeling that, Dave, but I had a lot of coffee
10:39:34 <Dave from B™> That explains it
10:39:38 <LindaGp> Hi steph
10:40:15 <ynpvisitor8> Jake there was a question the other day about GT - something about Lone Star being on the select list?
10:40:55 <Steph> LindaGp, Hi! The camera looks awesome today!
10:41:12 <LindaGp> Oh good
10:41:41 <LindaGp> Had tons of fog this morning
10:42:05 <Dave from B™> It was: Why is Lone star a prediction geyser on the phone app
10:42:21 <Jake> 8, I'm not sure what that means. The selected geysers list on geysertimes.org? Lone Star is not a default on that list although it is customizable in user settings
10:42:45 <ynpvisitor8> I think it was about the mobile version
10:42:58 <CraigC> hey Steph
10:43:06 <Steph> CraigC, hi!!
10:43:46 <Jake> Lone Star does get predicted when there's a recent report of Lone Star. I realize it's not very valuable because most people don't have time to get there before the predicted eruption once the data comes in.
10:44:06 <Jake> but when it happens, a Lone Star prediction is made and that is sent with all other predictions to the GT app
10:44:14 <Jake> the GT app has a placeholder for it
10:44:30 <Jake> that is just "no prediction" 99.9% of the time
10:44:46 <ynpvisitor8> placeholder is a good way to describe it
10:44:49 <LindaGp> OF ie
10:44:53 <LindaGp> No no
10:45:06 <LindaGp> LC ie
10:53:02 <Steph> I'm probably late to the party, but why do a lot of those coats look the same?
10:53:31 <LindaGp> Rentals maybe
10:53:52 <LindaGp> Or a club
10:54:14 <LindaGp> No idea really lol
10:54:18 <Steph> And no, I'm absolutely not a conspiracy theorist, I just noticed that they match and wondered if there were special visitors. :lol::lol::lol:
10:54:41 <LindaGp> I noticed same thing
10:55:08 <Steph> :thumbsup:
10:55:10 <LindaGp> There was a group with matching black and gray ones earlier
10:55:59 <ynpvisitor82> It is a clean up crew to mop up after the supervolcano.
10:56:31 <LindaGp> Then there is the blue grp to the left
10:57:08 <LindaGp> Maybe they sit together by color
10:57:30 <Steph> :lol::lol::lol:
10:57:35 <ynpvisitor113> snowmobilers LOVE to dress alike
10:58:09 <LindaGp> I guess thwre are only so many colors for thwm to choose from
10:58:35 <ynpvisitor113> not sure who red and black is, yet I would venture it is all clothing from the same company, like Arctic Cat or Skidoo, though not Skidoo as they are different colors
10:58:56 <CraigC> if you do snowmobile rental or snowmobile clothing rental, they are all the same
10:59:08 <ynpvisitor113> yes, these are not that
11:00:26 <CraigC> The Barbie Tourist Guild?
11:01:13 <Dave from B™> What Craig said at 1258. It is rental clothing. How many of you own snowmobile gear?
11:01:33 <ynpvisitor113> rental clothing are one piece outfits usually
11:01:38 <Steph> CraigC, if they were Barbies, they'd be in pink, tall, skinny, and out of proportion... :p;):lol:
11:02:14 <ynpvisitor113> I would guess these guys ride together, yet had to rent snowmobiles today to get into the park as they cannot take their own sleds in
11:02:16 <Dave from B™> hahaha
11:02:17 <CraigC> wait, I have to be in proportion to wear a UFC fighter t-shirt??? LOL
11:07:27 <LindaGp> OF ie
11:07:41 <LindaGp> Nice
11:08:36 <Steph> looks pretty on static too!!
11:09:07 <ynpvisitor113> my static is on delay
11:15:16 <LindaGp> Daisy is missing
11:21:53 <ynpvisitor45> There was reported Daisy @928ie, I=1h 18min. Thtas would be an extremely short I for the current behavoir pattern. More likely to see that in the 90's
11:22:27 <ynpvisitor45> Unless there is an error in the overnight E times or something else happened
11:23:24 <Jake> if the 0810E is the last reliable Daisy, then the next 30 minutes should see a Daisy
11:23:26 <LindaGp> We may have missed in the fog
11:24:16 <LindaGp> Ok
11:24:29 <ynpvisitor45> Daisy @928ie on GT in Basin
11:27:18 <Jake> maybe a typo since it was entered at 1044? 1028 would fit better. Any interval under 2hrs means Daisy is doing something it hasn't done for many, many years
11:28:30 <LindaGp> Ok
11:28:44 <Jake> which is exciting but highly improbable especially given the heavy fog this morning. even for in basin reports
11:29:15 <LindaGp> I don't know where she was that she could see it.
11:29:23 <LindaGp> Daisy
11:29:44 <ynpvisitor45> Extremey odd behavior not seen since Splendid was active. That was my point
11:29:47 <LindaGp> Speak of the devil
11:30:28 <ynpvisitor45> In the NPS prediction window
11:30:59 <Betty> the doggies are there
11:32:48 <Kevin L™🌵> It was flagged with a note that it was misentered. The call on the radio was for Bijou
11:37:20 <Jake> ah, so that's the greatest mystery solved since The Case of the Missing Seismo!
11:38:50 <LindaGp> I thought it was odd at the time since everything was fogged in
11:40:08 <ynpvisitor113> it was an in basin time, so it could have been seen from Bijou, yet it wasn't erupting.
11:40:54 <ynpvisitor45> Jake, is there a way for GT to not listan I when it is clearly a case of missed eruption(s)
11:41:31 <Jake> to not listen?
11:41:53 <ynpvisitor113> sentient GT?
11:43:39 <LindaGp> Lion ie
11:44:23 <ynpvisitor45> list an
11:48:12 <Jake> GT can do anything that can be written up in a series of If/then statements or put in a flowchart form. However, the cost of programming that is extensive and it's impossible to capture all variables for dynamic systems like geysers
11:48:28 <LindaGp> LC ie
11:49:02 <Jake> someday, a 1.5hr Daisy interval WILL be real and it could've started today. Better to have the collective users of GT make that determination rather than programming it away
11:49:07 <Dave from B™> How about an IQ qualifier, Jake?:)
11:50:36 <ynpvisitor45> Where can one find the archive of Daisy logger data. Its not in the current list of files?
11:50:53 <LindaGp> Darn i think bee is really on the darkside
11:51:26 <CraigC> Are we sure BH didn't go when visibility was gone?
11:51:37 <Kevin L™🌵> It misses Graham
11:51:45 <Jake> raw Daisy logger data is in this list: http://geysertimes.org/datalogger/archive.php
11:52:17 <ynpvisitor45> thanks
11:52:21 <LindaGp> I dont think it did, i was checking on it, anything is possible
11:52:46 <Jake> this page shows the GT doesn't have any Daisy logger data loaded since 2016: http://geysertimes.org/datalogger/analysis/punchcard/index.php?l=7
11:52:50 <LindaGp> Though
11:54:54 <ynpvisitor45> the list in the first link shows a file from 02 13 18
11:56:16 <Jake> yes, the date the file was created, but the data in it doesn't go past 2016
11:56:44 <ynpvisitor45> thanks. had not look at it yet
11:58:24 <ynpvisitor45> Do you know anything about data prior to mid 1998. The Carnegie Institue had a logger there that the VC had access to. You can see E times in the VC logbook in 97
12:00:02 <Jake> I don't. the data GT has is from Ralph Taylor/Hank Hessler/NPS Geology and some limited VEC/OF Naturalist data
12:00:22 <Jake> hopefully somewhere those datasets still exist
12:01:22 <Dave from B™> Jake, do you think there is more geyser log data in the YNP archives that will need to be entered in GT?
12:01:35 <ynpvisitor45> yes. hopefully. Who might have knowledge of where they could be found?
12:02:18 <ynpvisitor45> the
12:03:21 <Jake> I don't know the status of entering data from previous VEC logbooks. MA is entering things as she finds them (Norris focused) in field notes and other places. I'm sure there's more outstanding but it would be bits and pieces
12:04:18 <Jake> HK has an archive in bound book and 3.5" floppy(?) form in the archives that might have more data that doesn't exist in GT
12:04:45 <Jake> when I was there, the disks were unreadable. I haven't asked HK if he still has the data somewhere himself
12:05:33 <ynpvisitor45> He will remember that the CI logger existed. I'll see if he has the data or has a clue where to find it. Thanks for the hint.
12:06:43 <Jake> for Carnegie data...I contacted someone years ago that I think may have been with the Carnegie Institute. He was a researcher listed on something somewhere that was still working there. I remember he asked me if their computer was still at the Visitor Center:-/
12:07:07 <ynpvisitor45> lol
12:07:32 <Jake> I tried to track it down for him. Of course, no one knew anything about it at the VEC. This would've been around 2015 so the old VC was long gone
12:07:44 <Jake> and that computer is probably in a warehouse somewhere
12:08:16 <ynpvisitor45> lets hope the data was backed up
12:09:05 <Jake> it took years to track down all the NPS logger data from Ralph Taylor years. There are still some files unaccounted for
12:09:41 <ynpvisitor45> Ralph didn't retain a copy?
12:09:56 <Jake> there are RT-calculated E times on the GOSA site, but we don't have a corresponding file for that time period
12:10:23 <Jake> I'm sure he did or meant to. There's 1000's of files though
12:10:38 <ynpvisitor45> of course
12:13:43 <Jake> it's possible that we do have some of them now as he sent a bunch or Bill found a bunch "recently". They haven't been all sorted through yet
12:14:38 <Jake> there's mislabled loggers, mislabeled filenames, unlabeled logger data, incorrect timezones. it's a lot of work to sort through it all
12:15:20 <ynpvisitor45> big job for sure
12:21:55 <LindaGp> LC ie
12:23:09 <LindaGp> Still no bubblers
12:23:40 <Eric> Grand should pop up here pretty quickly
12:24:11 <LindaGp> Yes trying to keep in view
12:24:19 <Kevin L™🌵> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh6nek8-vB4
12:24:24 <LindaGp> I think turban just went off
12:25:30 <LindaGp> Unfortunately Of is going to pop up too
12:25:44 <LindaGp> Kevin L™🌵, 😊
12:26:51 <Kevin L™🌵> Worse than 9 to 5
12:27:06 <LindaGp> Lol
12:27:07 <Dave from B™> haha
12:28:04 <Kevin L™🌵> If you haven't seen that movie it is good. Robert Goulet and Judy Garland.
12:31:26 <LindaGp> I wonder when castle actually went off this morning
12:32:06 <Kevin L™🌵> You would think there would be an e time
12:34:28 <LindaGp> Last time was approximately 17:19 last night
12:35:58 <STS - phone> Castle very well could have gone while it was really foggy this morning
12:36:35 <LindaGp> I zoomed in several times but I'm not sure exactly when it started
12:37:25 <LindaGp> It's a mystery geyser to me. But I knew it was erupting
12:37:27 <LindaGp> Grand
12:37:41 <LindaGp> Sorry lol
12:38:15 <LindaGp> OF
12:38:28 <LindaGp> double header
12:39:35 <ynpvisitor113> I much prefer the dual at the beginning, then we can see Grand up close at the end
12:40:08 <STS - phone> Oooh, that’s cool!
12:40:29 <Eric> Lion due too
12:40:32 <LindaGp> Guess everybody went home
12:40:44 <LindaGp> Ok
12:41:17 <STS - phone> Quite a few on static though
12:45:18 <Eric> 8m
12:47:43 <ynpvisitor113> nice 2nd
12:47:51 <LindaGp> 2?
12:48:11 <Jimbo Radium> Yeah!
12:48:16 <Steph> Woot!
12:48:32 <Jimbo Radium> First one in a long time for me
12:48:57 <ynpvisitor113> First one that was that nice in a while, good viewing conditions
12:50:24 <ynpvisitor113> very fun
12:50:44 <ynpvisitor113> sun aided 42 degrees in the basin
12:51:00 <LindaGp> Fornsure
12:51:16 <LindaGp> Or for sure
12:51:38 <LindaGp> Lion is tryin
12:52:57 <LindaGp> Castle ie
12:53:41 <LindaGp> I thinknthe the grand finale series
12:54:05 <Steph> Beautiful!
12:56:38 <LindaGp> Don't know what lion is doing but I think this is the better show
12:59:23 <Dave from B™> What happened to the seismo for a bit?
12:59:30 <Dave from B™> missing data
13:00:22 <Dave from B™> Hello Lion
13:00:22 <LindaGp> Lion ie
13:01:08 <Steph> So cute! I love that lion!
13:03:08 <LindaGp> Well that was a grand finale!
13:03:11 <Dave from B™> Looks like the Lion is gonna sleep tonight
13:03:51 <LindaGp> Oh no I'm not giving up 9 to 5. 😊
13:04:08 <Casey> In the basin, the upper basin, the lion sleeps today...
13:04:17 <Dave from B™> It will hooko somebody, Linda!:)
13:04:17 <Casey> Ok... I deserve ridicule for that
13:04:23 <CraigC> Dave from B™, fish reported that the data was gathered, but it just wasn't being sent during a glitch
13:04:50 <CraigC> Casey, good tune to have stuck in my head, so no foul
13:05:04 <Dave from B™> On other outages, the data eventually appears. This will be different?
13:05:20 <LindaGp> Did anyone enter any of those? I didnt have time
13:05:32 <CraigC> I think this was different than an outage
13:06:34 <CraigC> Dave from B™, if you're so inclined, you could look back in the chat history to what fishnyp posted
13:06:49 <CraigC> typo
13:07:33 <Casey> Oh no! My stream was frozen and I didn't notice. I wonder how long it has been like that.
13:08:00 <Dave from B™> Craig, it was a network outage, so maybe we won't get it back. Fairly certain, SB didn't go in that tight empty window
13:10:50 <LindaGp> Ok I'm leaving camera on wide, next camop should be soon. Bit of it think there is anything left.
13:11:20 <LindaGp> *but I don't think
13:11:26 <Steph> LindaGp, thanks for doing a great job!
13:11:37 <Dave from B™> Way to use everything up before the next driver
13:11:52 <Dave from B™> THanks, Linda. Have a great weekend!
13:12:15 <LindaGp> Thx everybody, enjoy.
13:12:18 <CraigC> LindaGp, thanks, that was a long day of running the show
13:12:45 <Dave from B™> :star:
13:12:45 <LindaGp> Hey kat, how r u?
13:13:15 <Kat> Yeah - way to go Linda! Be ready shortly.I know you've had a long day!
13:13:24 <LindaGp> A gold star, YES!
13:13:49 <Kat> Actually - I'm exhausted, anesthesia and drug hungover!
13:13:54 <LindaGp> I didn't realize you were taking over.
13:14:05 <Kat> Covering for Joe
13:14:07 <CraigC> yikes
13:14:14 <LindaGp> Want me to keep it and you can snooze
13:14:29 <LindaGp> Not much left
13:14:38 <Kat> You've been on all day! Are you sure?
13:14:38 <Dave from B™> Has anyone heard how Joe is doing?
13:14:51 <LindaGp> Yes I'm sure.
13:14:53 <Kat> I have not..
13:15:13 <LindaGp> No i haven't heard from joe
13:15:35 <CraigC> hey Frank
13:15:39 <Dave from B™> wb, Frank
13:15:41 <Frank> Hello everyone.
13:15:58 <Frank> Hey Craig - Thanks Dave
13:16:08 <Frank> Hi Linda
13:16:19 <Betty> hello and good bye Frank. I´m out for sleep. night all
13:16:29 <Frank> Sleep well Betty
13:16:32 <Steph> Night Betty!
13:16:35 <LindaGp> Hi frank
13:16:44 <Kat> Thanks Linda - I really do appreciate it...I owe you for sure!
13:16:51 <Dave from B™> Nite Betty
13:17:04 <Kevin L™🌵> Knight Betty
13:18:34 <Kat> Off to bed here! Sorry I'm going to miss the fun... but it would mean I have to stay awake!:)
13:19:16 <Frank> Take care Kat
13:19:40 <Dave from B™> It is okay to DWI here
13:20:00 <LindaGp> Kat, get some rest
13:21:00 <LindaGp> Is that the midway geyser cloud out there on right?
13:21:13 <LindaGp> Or is it just a cloud
13:21:42 <LindaGp> All gone
13:36:12 <CraigC> WTH with SB
13:36:24 <CraigC> .
13:36:24 <CraigC> .
13:36:24 <CraigC> .
13:36:24 <CraigC> .
13:36:25 <CraigC> .
13:37:10 <Frank> Got the seismo going, it did.
13:39:16 <Eric> wowza
13:39:39 <CraigC> :sb:
13:39:40 <CraigC> :sb:
13:40:00 <Micah> Well that's a little earlier than I expected.
13:40:17 <Eric> haha...I called it! Shorter interval!
13:41:37 <LindaGp> Wow steamboat!
13:42:52 <Eric> 7d 2h 50m interval
13:43:11 <Eric> dropped by another 2 days
13:43:17 <Casey> Nice!
13:43:29 <Eric> 11 days, 9 days, 7 days
13:43:30 <Casey> Really obvious signature too
13:43:49 <Eric> Yep...glad they got seismo back up and running!
13:43:54 <LindaGp> Um who just took the camera?
13:44:56 <SO STEAMBOAT> i didnt even get time to use the nick before it erupted
13:45:07 <CraigC> LOL
13:45:09 <GO STEAMBOAT> thats better
13:45:31 <Eric> WENT STEAMBOAT
13:45:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> nice way to start the month
13:45:35 <Kevin L™🌵> Not me
13:45:45 <LindaGp> I think kathy was confused, Joe wasn't on tonight.
13:46:10 <LindaGp> I didnt expect her to be running cam
13:46:41 <LindaGp> I think it is GN
13:47:05 <GO STEAMBOAT> so now 4, 2 0 0
13:48:48 <GO STEAMBOAT> 36 since 15 May
13:49:01 <Micah> One of those 0's can stay a 0 unless it wants to play nice this year
13:49:58 <Steph> Yahoo! I was rocking my little grandson to sleep and heard all the beeps, so I knew something was up! Yay, Steamboat!!
13:50:41 <GO STEAMBOAT> i dnt want any eros ... even tho it makes gazing complicated
13:50:48 <GO STEAMBOAT> zeros
13:51:15 <GO STEAMBOAT> you dont have to ride down there
13:53:03 <Micah> One of the most stressful events of the summer was when you were calling the near-lock at F&M while Tara was calling a hot period. I would rather not do that again.
13:54:34 <CraigC> I'd take it. Since I haven't seen either, yet.
13:54:44 <Dave from B™> wow...that's early
13:55:40 <CraigC> Dave from B™, good for us you left so it could go
13:55:43 <Steph> It does that...
13:56:42 <GO STEAMBOAT> it must have known Dave was sneaking in this weekend
13:56:58 <Dave from B™> haha :P
13:57:14 <Micah> Craig. One of these days I'll get around to uploading one of my hot period vids
13:58:01 <CraigC> Micah, that would be cool... I watched one a couple of days ago where Giant erupted after some different sequences
13:59:51 <GO STEAMBOAT> i didnt think you cared about SB Micah
13:59:53 <CraigC> Eric, were you the one that shared the video of Giant going after feather had shut off?
14:00:35 <Eric> Nope...but I did think it was a very cool video...from 7/23/2006
14:00:40 <Micah> I cared enough to freeze next to you for a night. lol
14:00:59 <GO STEAMBOAT> only one night tho
14:01:20 <CraigC> sounds like I should cover my eyes
14:01:59 <Dave from B™> ears, too, Craig
14:02:18 <Steph> Apparently...
14:02:18 <CraigC> :thumbsup:
14:02:46 <Dave from B™> I know we can't be picky but last 3 Sb's intervals give us a big window now
14:03:03 <Dave from B™> Over 100 hour window
14:03:06 <CraigC> I dare someone to ask Micah how tall SB looks from that seismo signature :)
14:03:23 <Steph> CraigC, :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
14:03:23 <Dave from B™> Or, tell micah that SB is still predictable:D
14:03:37 <GO STEAMBOAT> thats on Dave they will settle down at 5 days soon ... until April
14:04:09 <Eric> Meh, next one will go long :-P
14:04:13 <GO STEAMBOAT> it is predictable
14:04:27 <CraigC> until it isn't?
14:04:34 <Eric> Unless Dave picks long....
14:04:42 <Eric> :-P
14:05:34 <ynpvisitor73> Daisy looks happy
14:05:34 <CraigC> :daisy:
14:06:44 <ynpvisitor73> So will the seismo tell us how tall BH will be?
14:07:05 <Kevin L™🌵> Faisy
14:07:09 <GO STEAMBOAT> yes, 150 feet
14:07:18 <GO STEAMBOAT> every time
14:08:04 <ynpvisitor73> So where is it?
14:08:07 <CraigC> wowow
14:08:28 <GO STEAMBOAT> where is what?
14:08:44 <ynpvisitor73> BH?
14:08:59 <GO STEAMBOAT> all you asked was height, not time
14:09:18 <ynpvisitor73> It is not all knowing?
14:10:07 <Kevin L™🌵> I guess we will both be cheering for the caps toKnight Graham.
14:11:02 <ynpvisitor73> Globe Trotters all the way.
14:17:02 <ynpvisitor999®> That's a welcome surprise on the seismo :)
14:20:59 <Dave from B™> Eric, I pick longer than last interval
14:21:24 <Dave from B™> I'm going to keep picking longer and eventually the interval will be 1 day
14:22:14 <STS> Oh wow! Yay Steamboat
14:22:32 <STS> 5 days next interval? ;)
14:22:44 <Dave from B™> Time to go walk the rats. Have a great evening everyone! Seeya tomorrow
14:24:34 <KittyM> Ok so tell me how you know about Steamboat, is it the Tantalus graphs for today?
14:25:02 <ynpvisitor999®> YNM seismograph
14:25:06 <Kevin L™🌵> Seismo: http://quake.utah.edu/station/heli/YNM.png
14:25:48 <KittyM> Thanks, Kevin!
14:26:28 <KittyM> Wow! I bookmarked it
14:28:10 <Michael> Tantalus water flow should spike in the next half-hour. The temperature graph mostly tells you if it's sunny out or not.
14:28:35 <KittyM> :thumbsup:
14:30:19 <Kevin L™🌵> For you new people, you may not know about Heinrich's log. Fun insights on New Zealand and some good Steamboat & Giant video further down: http://geysers.org/notes/
14:34:29 <Steph> It's off to hot yoga for me. Plus Steamboat is the best way to start the weekend!! Bye all! Have a great night in the basin.
14:34:45 <Eric> Have a good weekend.
14:35:00 <Kevin L™🌵> :)
14:35:04 <Kevin L™🌵> Aurum!
14:35:07 <Kevin L™🌵> .
14:35:08 <Kevin L™🌵> .
14:35:12 <Michael> Whilte you're here?!
14:35:38 <LindaG> We were aurum
14:36:05 <Kevin L™🌵> Did you get the static Linda?
14:36:10 <LindaG> Or wowee aurum lol
14:36:38 <LindaG> I'm on delay so I just saw it on stream
14:36:59 <LindaG> That was great
14:37:01 <Michael> I always forget to look at static to get a second view.
14:37:18 <Kevin L™🌵> It was a good one on stream. I will email it to you
14:37:27 <LindaG> Thx
14:37:40 <Eric> https://geysercam.xyz/ugb-ynp/02012019/817.jpg
14:37:43 <Michael> That one was nice and bright and sparkly.
14:37:50 <Eric> static...just a ctrl-scroll away ;-)
14:38:24 <Kevin L™🌵> I guess that will work!
14:38:40 <LindaG> Yes, thx anyway
14:38:52 <Eric> then you can just click on the static and it will load in a new tab, copy the url from there.
14:39:56 <LindaG> I came back in just in time
14:47:46 <LindaG> So the seismo was a little undersized for steamboat a week ago, is there a relationship there with 7 day interval? Sort of like a minor last week?
14:49:06 <Eric> I don't think so Linda...very difficult to gauge anything about the size of steamboat by it's seismo signature.
14:49:45 <LindaG> Ok was just wondering
14:49:56 <Eric> You would have to review the seismo data in relation to intervals, but I don't think anyone has seen a correlation.
14:50:09 <Eric> Good question :-D
14:50:15 <Eric> grotto steam....
14:50:20 <LindaG> Ah a project!
14:50:31 <Eric> :-D
14:51:49 <Michael> By now the sample size of recorded eruptions should be pretty good. It's not like extrapolating from just two data points.
14:51:55 <Michael> Which I do all the time...
14:54:05 <LindaG> Has there ever been a seven day interval do you know?
14:56:27 <ynpvisitor999®> plenty in this active phase: https://geysertimes.org/geyser.php?id=Steamboat
14:56:52 <ynpvisitor999®> even a nice series of 5-day intervals
14:57:11 <LindaG> Oh ok, just curious, thx
14:57:33 <ynpvisitor45> hill?
15:00:07 <Ryan> Well that was unexpected
15:00:33 <ynpvisitor999®> There's not much expected on the hill as of now - Lion most likely ended its series and we just had Aurum. In case of, for example, Giantess going (which is quite unlikely, unfortunately), we have the static cam to help us a bit
15:00:56 <GO STEAMBOAT> After oon snowcoach from OFto Mammoth coild catch it ie
15:01:37 <ynpvisitor999®> I see you're using a Dave keyboard today
15:02:05 <GO STEAMBOAT> The phone version
15:02:17 <ynpvisitor999®> I see
15:02:35 <Kevin L™🌵> Did you get Northern Lights last Knight DG?
15:02:40 <GO STEAMBOAT> Hopefully they have some time to enjoy it...they wouldnt know it was going to hurry there
15:05:26 <Eric> CCI?
15:05:31 <ynpvisitor999®> no, it was cloudy all day
15:05:54 <Kevin L™🌵> Darn. I saw some pictures of them from Britan.
15:06:09 <ynpvisitor999®> nice
15:06:58 <Kevin L™🌵> There were some from Montana too
15:18:56 <CraigC> was there a big solar flare?
15:19:34 <Kevin L™🌵> Yes
15:20:12 <CraigC> I'm guessing BH went at some time in the early morning hours when there was no visibility
15:20:43 <Ryan> Interesting no tantalus spike yet
15:21:26 <ynpvisitor999®> It'll probably be there after the 1730 sync
15:21:33 <CraigC> wow, yeah, 2 hours since the start
15:22:24 <ynpvisitor999®> best guess is that a spike appears at 1645 or 1700
15:23:34 <Kevin L™🌵> Right after Dave leaves
15:25:32 <Eric> Usually the spike is 45 minutes after though...right?
15:25:42 <Ryan> Riverside
15:25:47 <Ryan> Hour or more I thought
15:25:52 <Ryan> hour and a half...?
15:26:01 <Ryan> 1725ns for Riverside
15:26:08 <Eric> Must be...since we already have data for 1.5h after :-P
15:26:36 <ynpvisitor999®> I recall that it takes about 90 minutes for SB's water to reach the gauge
15:26:52 <Eric> Then you are probably right...next update
15:28:23 <Ryan> Its the fail safe lol
15:29:03 <Eric> It's nice confirmation for sure
15:29:10 <Ryan> In theory you can trust the Tantalus spike more than the seismo.
15:29:12 <Eric> Without human verification
15:29:46 <Ryan> Yeah, I think back to 9/17 with that weird seismic trace and looking for the spike for the confirmation. And theres that rare chance it was a steamphase event
15:29:52 <CraigC> has there ever been a steam phase without water?
15:29:56 <Eric> Not sure about that...combined they make a powerful case, but tantalus can be triggered by heavy rain too
15:29:58 <Ryan> At least four times
15:30:19 <Ryan> I dont think you'd get a flow spike that intense for that very short period in the winter
15:30:38 <Eric> warm wet days can really spike it
15:30:51 <Eric> but probably not that vertical
15:31:01 <Ryan> Oh yeah, but I dont think when its below freezing for weeks :P
15:31:08 <ynpvisitor8> wind direction can reduce the flow too - Aug 4 didn't raise it at all
15:31:14 <Eric> temp showed 36 here earlier
15:31:29 <Eric> I like them both :-D
15:32:00 <Ryan> I like them both, too. I just think the water gauge is a bit harder to fake.
15:33:08 <Ryan> TLDR: I'd trust a water spike and no seismic trace a bit more easily than a trace with no spike.
15:33:56 <Ryan> AND: With only one I'd be hard pressed to confirm it as a major eruption with any high level of certainty unless an ice/debris layer was found in the snow.
15:35:42 <Michael> I agree with everything Ryan just said.
15:37:11 <ynpvisitor999®> small spike on Tantalus
15:37:51 <Ryan> Mine wont refresh - linnk?
15:38:00 <CraigC> I don't see any new data
15:38:10 <ynpvisitor999®> https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?cb_00010=on&cb_00060=on&cb_00065=on&format=gif_default&site_no=06036940&period=&begin_date=2019-02-01&end_date=2019-02-01
15:38:21 <ynpvisitor999®> you might need to clear your cache
15:38:42 <Ryan> Yeap, looks about right for an eruption
15:39:09 <ynpvisitor999®> seems to be from 4.7 cfps to 5.45 cfps
15:39:18 <Eric> I have seen better spikes...but I think its an ok confirmation
15:39:54 <Ryan> I'd wait to see the next update. But I dont think we had some serious rain in the last hour :)
15:43:37 <Michael> OF
15:44:14 <Michael> I'm glad all the Norris recorders seem to be in agreement today.
15:44:50 <Eric> The temp rise that goes along with the volume spike is helpful clue too
15:50:20 <Michael> Not much to see before dark unless Beehive finds a spark of energy.
15:51:18 <Ryan> Steamboat was not enough for you, Michael?
15:52:53 <Michael> I got here at 16:something. Pretty much missed it.
16:11:09 <ynpvisitor35> Steamboat on pace for 46 eruptions this year
16:12:50 <Michael> That would be fantastic!
16:15:08 <ynpvisitor999®> Personally I think Steamboat, as it currently stands, will have 30 to 35 eruptions this year, maybe 40 tops
16:16:04 <ynpvisitor999®> though if it manages to do a rampage of 4-5-day intervals, I'd probably need to revise that prediction
16:31:52 <ynpvisitor35> There will be a disturbance this year
16:52:01 <kcmule> only if I go
16:52:40 <ynpvisitor999®> it'd probably be a Dave thing, kc
16:53:18 <ynpvisitor999®> we've got an in-basin 1522 ns :D
16:53:42 <ynpvisitor999®> "Relatively clear water compared to usual"
16:54:05 <kcmule> it already did it for me once, fully expect it to do it again
16:57:22 <Frank> Hello everyone
16:59:49 <ynpvisitor999®> hello Frank
17:00:17 <Frank> Hello Jarno
17:00:30 <ynpvisitor35> Kc, you trying again this year?
17:02:11 <Frank> Would you like me to delete my questionable Lion entry from yesterday, Jarno?
17:02:29 <ynpvisitor999®> I think that'd be for the best
17:02:32 <ynpvisitor999®> so yes
17:02:58 <Frank> Thanks, I agree.
17:04:21 <Frank> It's deleted.
17:04:30 <ynpvisitor999®> :thumbsup:
17:19:43 <kcmule> not sure 35
17:34:56 <Kevin L™🌵> Looks like you are having a bad Knight too kc
17:37:16 <kcmule> and the guy who scores the most against us is from buffalo
17:38:56 <Ryan> whats glowing?
17:39:01 <Ryan> On the horizon
17:39:15 <Kevin L™🌵> Losing Neal really hurt us. Calgary is doing great with him.
17:39:21 <Frank> West Yellowstone lights.
17:39:23 <Kevin L™🌵> West Yellowstone.
17:39:31 <Ryan> Ah cool
18:05:08 <ynpvisitor32> Newest video dedicated to Casey RIP Who threw them selves into SB as a virgin sacrifice to the volcano God, thus saving all of us from a major eruption. RIP
18:36:00 <Frank> Daisy
18:50:53 <ynpvisitor56> This is Frank. I lost internet & had to reboot. Did I miss grand?