Showing logs for date: 2019-02-18
22:01:18 <ynpvisitor92> Heavy steam @ BH
22:02:54 <ynpvisitor92> Can’t quite tell what Indy is doing
22:03:13 <ynpvisitor106> It had a nice splash.
22:03:28 <ynpvisitor106> No indy yet
02:30:33 <ynpvisitor109> Did BH erupt?
02:31:01 <ynpvisitor106> OF erupted
02:31:08 <ynpvisitor106> no view of BH
02:31:16 <ynpvisitor109> Lost in OF steam?
02:31:49 <ynpvisitor109> It’s colder than -10.
02:32:22 <ynpvisitor106> yes lost in the steam.
02:32:43 <ynpvisitor109> Glad you saw Indy
02:33:38 <ynpvisitor109> Maybe enter an A time ?
02:51:19 <ynpvisitor106> bh
02:52:06 <ynpvisitor106> What I thought was the indicator earlier were the side boilers. Sorry for the confusion.
04:52:20 <Dave from B™> Kevin, you're up early
04:53:14 <Kevin L™🌵> Heading over the Rainbow in a few minutes.
04:54:17 <Kevin L™🌵> Snowed here last knight.
05:03:21 <Kevin L™🌵> See you tomorrow
05:04:26 <Dave from B™> Have a great day
05:12:54 <ynpvisitor112> I thought Kevin was snowed in this morning.
05:30:29 <KittyM*> OF IE
05:45:34 <ynpvisitor89> Looks nice and crispy this morning
05:53:31 <Kat> Nice light!!
05:54:23 <Kat> Mornin' :)
06:12:17 <Dave from B™> Morning Kat
06:22:39 <ynpvisitor1> washburn cams have an odd pretty view
06:24:30 <BWaggs> clouds are thick below...
06:36:36 <Ryan> Did castle minor overnight?
06:37:12 <Ryan> Huh, no entry. The steam plume made me think it was doing its post-minor play
06:37:52 <Dave from B™> Ryan, the view just started to clear
06:39:27 <Ryan> OK. I cant tell whats going on zoomed out. I dont know what Castle's double major interval is right now if it is even happening
06:39:38 <Ryan> Dave, did your SB prediction come true?
06:40:09 <ynpvisitor97> castle was doing something about 3am something when the fog cleared then
06:42:56 <Dave from B™> Ryan, it erupted 5 hours before my window started. The streak continues:)
06:44:08 <Dave from B™> NPS is reporting the last one was small (I wish they wouldn't do that). Small seismo footprint and less water change in tantulus doesn't mean it was smaller
06:44:54 <Dave from B™> Water gets stuck in snowpiles and I think seismo acts differently in winter/spring
06:49:12 <ynpvisitor97> i think the seismo waves do not travel as well in the frozen ground the frost depth is deep now and equals less "shake"
06:50:36 <Dave from B™> These are the same mistakes that NPS made last spring when they said SB was having minors only. I forget how long it took them to accept them as majors and change the SB platform signs to show the date of the last major eruption.
06:51:29 <Dave from B™> If we had a camera there we wouldn't have to speculate on the size every single time it erupts based on outflow, temp rise and seismo footprint
06:52:20 <Ryan> Do the seismos record ground vibrations only? Or acoustic waves in the air, too? Do the vibrations in the ground come from subareial acoustic waves in the plume?
06:52:36 <Ryan> Or fromt the eruption column in the plumbing channel?
06:52:37 <ynpvisitor97> where is NPS reporting these small events
06:52:45 <Dave from B™> These are questions for fishynp
06:52:54 <Dave from B™> FB
06:52:58 <Ryan> I dont think we know, Dave.
06:53:51 <Ryan> Some have to be travelling through the ground. But if any if the traces on the seismos are coming from acoustic vibrations through the air above the sensor then thats affected by eruption strength, wind direction, rain fall, snow fall, snow on the ground, air humidity, temperature, wind strength...
06:54:28 <Ryan> The only thing we were able to pull is that a water heavy eruption has a smaller seismic trace and *that only worked when there wasnt snow on the ground*
06:55:28 <Ryan> TLDR: Someone is currently doing research on the data, everyone else is speculating :)
06:56:15 <Dave from B™> I assuming that is Mara's study?
06:56:22 <Ryan> Yes
06:57:01 <Ryan> From experience trying to correlate even temp logger data with eruption characteristics (besides start time and occaisonally duration), it is VERY difficult.
06:58:13 <ynpvisitor97> possible lion based on plume
06:58:25 <Katie> good morning
06:58:51 <ynpvisitor11> Steamboat erupting is fine with me, regardless of the speculation of "size"
06:59:05 <Katie> If this turns out to be a series start for Lion, we should enter that later. I think you might be right.
06:59:45 <Ryan> Yes, 11. Sorry for ranting there. Its frustration to see the comments instantly on FB though about how big or small the eruption may have been when there is literally no current way to realistically estimate that without direct observation.
07:00:09 <ynpvisitor11> Don't do FB, do you set them straight there?
07:00:09 <Ryan> And, for that matter, its BIG. Steamboat is always BIG. 280ft or 420ft none of them are small.
07:00:47 <Katie> Agreed. It is reasonable and accurate to "voice" an observation that the seismo signature is not as dramatic. But that's all we can infer.
07:00:49 <Ryan> The other day I did the hand clap thing common among millenial twitter posts. I always said I would do it.
07:00:52 <ynpvisitor11> 150-200' would be awesome
07:01:00 <Ryan> wouldnt*
07:01:42 <Ryan> 11 - we've seen minors approaching that 150ft mark :O
07:03:11 <Eric> Morning and I totally agree Ryan! I think that YVO post was questionable
07:03:14 <ynpvisitor1> even with direct observation of SB, they are all really realy big
07:03:51 <Ryan> I think some are trying to reduce public interest in it. That is purely my speculation alone.
07:04:21 <Ryan> It is causing massive headaches at Norris, I would not be shocked if someone was trying to reduce the cluster that ensues there.
07:04:23 <Eric> Using tantalus gauge as a metric for steamboat output is ridiculous!
07:04:26 <ynpvisitor11> ahhaha
07:04:33 <Eric> or steamboat size I should say
07:04:33 <ynpvisitor1> why reduce interest, it can become a source of new research grants
07:04:55 <Ryan> The tourist crowds at Norris are a nightmare even without SB.
07:05:08 <Ryan> I dont think the interest they would want to reduce is from the scientific community.
07:05:10 <Dave from B™> I wonder what changes they have planned for Norris if this continues
07:05:15 <Eric> I don't care what their motivations are, it seems very un-scientific and reflects poorly on the YVO!
07:06:01 <Ryan> Eric, agreed.
07:06:15 <ynpvisitor1> crowds didn't seem that bad tho, i was expecting worse...the extra parking has helped
07:06:27 <ynpvisitor11> was it NPS or YVO
07:06:46 <Eric> Wasn't it YVO calling the initial Steamboat eruptions minors?
07:07:00 <Ryan> I remember the trace from the June 4 eruption - an hour after the start it was relatively small and yet you could feel SB's steamphase reverberating from hills across Gibbon Meadows.
07:07:05 <STS (Sam)> The YVO posted something earlier this month calling the January eruptions "smaller"
07:07:20 <Dave from B™> 11, that is my fault. I said NPS. It was YVO
07:07:20 <Ryan> I thought the NPS did it last May. The YVO did it this time though
07:07:21 <STS (Sam)> Just because of the signature on the seismo
07:07:44 <Eric>
07:07:47 <STS (Sam)> Unrelated to this, but the basin looks really pretty
07:07:57 <ynpvisitor1> Gibbon Meadows or Elk Park?
07:08:32 <Katie> yes, Sam, it's going to be a very fine day. Pretty, pretty!
07:08:39 <Eric> -17 degrees...pretty but dang cold!
07:08:50 <ynpvisitor1> reverb from that lower spot would be interesting to determne
07:09:01 <Ryan> 1, Elk Park probably - whatever the big hills just south of Norris is.
07:09:27 <Katie> Is it just me, or is stream frozen?
07:09:29 <Dave from B™> I love the squeak of walking on snow at these temps
07:09:36 <ynpvisitor1> you go down the hill and a way to get to Gibbon Meadows
07:09:47 <Ryan> 1, when you walked over to Green Dragon Spring area the sound and the vibrations from the steamphase sounded and felt like they were coming from the south but SB is norht of you from there.
07:09:50 <STS (Sam)> Mines fine Katie
07:10:02 <Ryan> So Elk Park, never was familiar with YNP geography outside of the basins ;)
07:10:16 <Katie> I love squeaky snow, too, Dave. Drives my husband bonkers when I twist my feet on squeaky snow to make swueaks!
07:10:38 <ynpvisitor1> Elk Park is the flats just S of Norris....reverb was more likely from the local hills at Norris
07:11:29 <Ryan> No, it was the big hills south of Norris. It was the only thing to the south.
07:12:31 <Ryan> Its Gibbon Hill and the hillside just north of it. Looked it up on a topo.
07:12:41 <Ryan> Its the only major rise south of Steamboat at that point.
07:13:29 <STS (Sam)> The lake static cam hasn't updated yet and it's super pretty
07:13:38 <STS (Sam)> From sunrise
07:14:06 <STS (Sam)> Something going behind OF?
07:14:29 <STS (Sam)> There's of
07:14:58 <STS (Sam)> Fluffy :)
07:16:35 <ynpvisitor11> Eric, thanks for the link
07:17:53 <visitor> Who knew fluffy' was a real geyser.
07:18:19 <Ryan> I am really happy Fluffy links back to OF.
07:18:34 <STS (Sam)> Me too :)
07:19:17 <Katie> that's funny - I had to check, too.
07:20:20 <visitor> Kevin still down with the bug, or still trying to recover from the race?
07:22:36 <visitor> Fluffy kitten.
07:22:52 <Dave from B™> Kevin, is on vaca today
07:23:24 <ynpvisitor11> I'll go on record that I don't like Fluf fy being linked.
07:23:40 <visitor> I did not know retired state employees get Presidents day off.
07:24:05 <STS (Sam)> Steaming to the left of OF?
07:24:15 <Ryan> I think retired state employees get all of the days off ;)
07:24:17 <ynpvisitor112> I agree with #11
07:24:33 <visitor> If fluffy' gets it, then Spit Cone should be blue'.
07:25:02 <ynpvisitor97> split cone
07:25:05 <Ryan> blue...? What? Haha, Fluffy is an old nickname for Old Faithful used by many gazers.
07:25:15 <ynpvisitor11> what's next - Faisy?
07:25:38 <visitor> Bee?
07:25:38 <STS (Sam)> Fluffy is just a fun little name
07:25:38 <Eric> good idea 11 :-D
07:25:50 <Eric> I might just add that!
07:25:52 <Ryan> OK now you're just being... something. I do like the idea of Frand though.
07:25:56 <ynpvisitor11> I would scream - can that word be blue?
07:26:28 <Ryan> OH can you link Spit Cone as a nickname. I guess that would be up to Eric.
07:26:40 <STS (Sam)> Visitor, I don't see Bee
07:26:50 <Ryan> Flion... Eric, can you make Flying-Lion a thing?
07:26:51 <Eric> I can do that Ryan....but meh, I do like Faisy though
07:27:01 <visitor> Bee should be Blue'
07:27:05 <ynpvisitor11> noooooooooo
07:27:10 <STS (Sam)> Fteamboat
07:27:23 <Ryan> Fiverside
07:27:26 <ynpvisitor1> do we really need to know where bee is?
07:27:36 <ynpvisitor11> approving typos in a little clique is not good
07:27:52 <visitor> Do we need to know where fluffy' is?
07:27:52 <Ryan> Click*
07:27:53 <Ryan> ;)
07:28:33 <ynpvisitor11> ?
07:28:44 <Eric> If you mean little clique being people who actually identify themselves on here then ok.
07:28:56 <STS (Sam)> Is that Castle steaming?
07:29:11 <Katie> I had a boss that made a typo in my name so often (making it Kaite) that I aliased "kaite" to Katie for email and for our internal chat. That proved to be a mistake. He hand-wrote bonus checks. Mine was made out to Kaite.
07:29:12 <visitor> yes one of the steamers
07:29:26 <ynpvisitor11> I mean the chat log becomes a part of the thermal history, linked on GT, and one would have to read years of it to find out what Faisy means
07:29:35 <ynpvisitor97> has been since ~0340
07:29:49 <Ryan> Oh I am just pushing buttons and being sarcastic, 11. I am in between three exams, two lab reports, a quiz, a full time job, and a daily two hour commute and I am just punchy by now (and three cups of coffee in)
07:30:05 <STS (Sam)> Oh, I miss college days Ryan
07:30:11 <Ryan> 11, or you can click on the link and see it goes back to Old Faithful and ask why.....
07:30:16 <STS (Sam)> Somedays....
07:30:27 <Ryan> STS - I am sure I will look back on this fondly at times... right now I just border on delirious.
07:30:49 <Eric> Yep...kinda of like boardwalk talk, sometimes people not sitting at the geyser, don't get it!
07:31:17 <STS (Sam)> Back to the old grind. Bbl
07:31:25 <Eric> Bye Sam
07:31:52 <ynpvisitor97> big sprinklet
07:32:54 <ynpvisitor97> sprinkler*
07:54:04 <Dave from B™> Kevin just sent me a picture of his trip to the desert.......snow everywhere
08:02:49 <Katie> *IF* that was Lion at 8:58...
08:33:00 <Eric> Pretty with all of the snow covered trees
08:33:14 <Katie> very
08:52:43 <Katie> daisy
09:02:22 <ynpvisitor109> Daisy needs a wc on the time Katie
09:03:15 <Katie> thanks. :)
09:19:25 <Katie> Good morning, Betty
09:19:33 <Katie> Or evening, as it were...
09:19:36 <BWaggs> Ah, the Bison are here!
09:19:36 <Betty> morning all
09:19:44 <BWaggs> Morning
09:19:50 <Betty> hi Katie
09:20:09 <Katie> Yeah, the bison have been milling in that spot all morning. I occasionally cam visit them. :)
09:21:20 <Katie> I always enjoy watching them use their heads as snowplows.
09:25:49 <Betty> hi BWaggs
09:27:40 <Dave from B™> BWaggs are you Jimbo?
09:28:17 <Katie> Is BWaggs an element I'm not familiar with? ;)
09:28:19 <Betty> hi Dave from B™
09:28:39 <Dave from B™> haha Katie....Might be a connection I don't know about
09:28:41 <Dave from B™> Hi Betty
09:38:30 <LindaG> Hi everyone, love those frosty trees!
09:41:42 <Katie> Me, too, LindaG
09:43:52 <Betty> hi Linda
09:44:45 <KittyM*> Hi Linda and everyone
09:46:13 <Betty> hi KittyM*
09:50:21 <ynpvisitor112> what is the main cause of the temperature change in Tantalus creek?
09:50:43 <Katie> winter :)
09:51:37 <ynpvisitor112> but winter longer than 12 hrs:p
09:52:41 <Ryan> Lots of possible reasons, 112.
09:54:05 <ynpvisitor112> hot water from geyser/hot spring?
09:54:26 <ynpvisitor112> what else?
09:54:44 <Betty> cold night/warm days
09:54:46 <Ryan> Snow melt
09:54:48 <Ryan> Sunshine
09:55:18 <Ryan> About two hundred hot springs and geysers besides Steamboat
09:56:21 <lc> creeks here don't change that much because of sunshine or cold nights.
09:56:40 <Ryan> In volume
09:57:03 <lc> maybe with a hard rain.
09:57:08 <Ryan> Temperature is a different story. Sunshine directly on the sensor can heat it up, or the water. Less wind would blow away less heat
09:57:16 <Betty> hi lc hi Ryan
09:57:27 <BWaggs> Wait... Jimbo? I have nephew we call Jimbo...
09:57:54 <Ryan> Long spans of thermal rivers probably make a cushion of insulating hot air above them. If the wind starts blowing it will cool down quickly and if it stops blowing it can warm quickly, too
09:58:27 <lc> is the sensor in the water?
09:58:53 <Dave from B™> Hi, lc. Yes, it is in the water
09:58:54 <Ryan> Yes, the plot says "Temperature, water"
10:00:44 <lc> hey Dave
10:03:05 <lc> where is the sensor located?
10:03:18 <Dave from B™> Thermal flow into Tantulus makes up a large part of the creek so that is why temp changes so much
10:04:13 <lc> guess that is what I was thinking.
10:04:39 <Dave from B™> One of my great fascination with YNP in winter is that all the streams are open (not frozen)
10:05:23 <lc> I can't think of anything else that would change the temp that fast.
10:06:13 <Dave from B™> Didn't DG post something about Echinus yesterday?
10:07:20 <Betty> maybe after 1800 yesterday
10:23:11 <Katie> Looks like everyone got put in timeout. ;)
10:24:02 <ynpvisitor97> lc ie
10:24:55 <Katie> OF
10:25:46 <Katie> Maybe just steam. So choppy! Waiting for static cam confirmation...
10:27:58 <Katie> There she goes
10:28:08 <Katie> Or just preplay. sheesh!
10:28:23 <Betty> :-)
10:30:20 <Katie> I'm not going to say it
10:30:49 <ynpvisitor97> :)
10:31:04 <Katie> Grand, too?
10:31:11 <STS (Sam)> I think that's OF now :)
10:31:22 <Betty> yay, Grand
10:31:54 <STS (Sam)> Dueling geysers
10:32:27 <STS (Sam)> I'm gonna log OF at 12:30
10:32:42 <Katie> Good. :)
10:54:10 <ynpvisitor97> lc
10:57:32 <Katie> Solitary?
10:57:46 <ynpvisitor97> yep
11:05:06 <Katie> Nap time for the bison
11:19:41 <Betty> Daisy
11:23:50 <ynpvisitor23> Faisy!
11:25:20 <ynpvisitor16> So with the super big moon this week, will it go over 100% illumination?
11:26:03 <ynpvisitor16> Gosh no blue' with super, big, or moon.
11:56:55 <Katie> lc
11:57:50 <Betty> ghg5
11:58:17 <Katie> yup
12:05:46 <Katie> OF
12:24:12 <Katie> Riverside?
12:24:26 <ynpvisitor23> Fiverside
12:24:49 <ynpvisitor23> Sorry, I can't help myself. Still hopped on caffeine, still deliriously overloaded with work.
12:25:15 <Katie> I understand! I'm still recovering from a stressful work week last week.
12:28:30 <Dave from B™> Ryan, go to sleep:)
12:41:29 <Betty> Depression?
12:53:27 <Betty> Aurum
12:53:29 <Betty> .
12:53:30 <Betty> .
12:54:17 <Katie> I swear Aurum has a thing for going when I'm on the phone. Don't tell Kevin. He'll want me to be on the phone all the time.
12:54:40 <Betty> it is still going
12:55:04 <Betty> over now
12:55:20 <Katie> I did catch the end
12:56:04 <Betty> more what Kevin gets most of the time :-)
12:57:17 <Katie> LC
13:02:13 <Betty> nice BH splash
13:10:41 <Betty> BH
13:10:44 <Betty> ??
13:10:52 <Betty> woot
13:11:02 <Betty> no indy
13:11:03 <ynpvisitor23> Wow that was short
13:11:06 <Katie> I can't remember how to send text. Can you?
13:11:54 <Betty> It is sent
13:11:59 <Katie> Maybe the 4:05am wasn't?
13:12:17 <ynpvisitor50> Nice
13:12:27 <ynpvisitor50> thanks for the text
13:12:31 <LindaG> Thx for txt
13:12:36 <sparekitty> thanks for the text!
13:12:58 <LindaG> Nice
13:13:01 <Eric2> beautiful shot of it today!
13:13:06 <Kat> Nice Beehive!
13:13:12 <Betty> can you put the "no indicator" to your BH post?
13:13:46 <LindaG> Fi ally one we can see
13:14:01 <Ryan> I think the non-indicator starts are my favorite. That slow climb puts on a deluge across the hill.
13:14:16 <ynpvisitor85> Thanks for poking me to see this Ryan :heart: Hope
13:14:20 <Ryan> I got to see one in May 2014 - anyone else here get to see one from the boardwalk?
13:14:33 <Ryan> Anytime, 85. Figured you'd like to see it
13:14:38 <sparekitty> i have seen BH from the boardwalk, both winter and summer.
13:14:47 <Ryan> I meant a non-indicator start.
13:14:58 <sparekitty> oops. nope
13:15:04 <sparekitty> i am not that lucky
13:15:09 <Eric2> I have seen a non-indy start...always a surprise :-D
13:15:19 <Kat> I did - with a rainbow!!
13:15:33 <Ryan> Splash, splash, 10ft jet, 60ft jet... everyone scrambling to get out of the way
13:15:55 <Katie> Edited, Betty. Thanks for reminding me.
13:16:02 <Eric2> haha...I always try to keep myself place well for wind anytime I am at BH :-P
13:16:34 <Eric2> Awesome winter eruption today...I was missing BH lately.
13:16:37 <Betty> good plan, Eric
13:16:47 <Ryan> I proudly create a yardsale everywhere I go. I rarely am able to packup and leave in less than a minute lol
13:17:04 <Katie> Well, that was some unexpected afternoon fun!
13:17:12 <Eric2> BTW, the links to the geysers in chat are NOT linked in the archives. That is just a User Interface feature.
13:17:27 <Kat> Indeed!
13:17:35 <Betty> just before I was ready to quit for sleep
13:17:50 <LindaG> Well that was nice, glad I was around to watch
13:17:52 <Eric2> Life of a photographer Ryan :-D
13:17:54 <Kat> Glad you waited Betty!
13:18:04 <Eric2> Sweet dreams Betty
13:18:23 <Betty> Aurum and Beehive, that was fun. Night all
13:18:41 <Kat> Night Betty.
13:18:47 <Katie> G'night, Betty.
13:18:48 <LindaG> Goodnight betty
13:19:01 <Dave from B™> Where is Eric1?
13:19:51 <Ryan> Eric2, indeed lol
13:20:59 <Betty> 0450 was BH for sure
13:32:20 <ynpvisitor57> of
13:32:56 <GO GIANT> no Lion yet?
13:33:17 <Katie> No Lion. LC has been active and Lion has had some steamy periods.
13:33:23 <GO GIANT> all i need to do is think about it, and it happens. i was thinking its time for BH to throw in a short interval
13:33:37 <GO GIANT> good evening
13:33:46 <GO GIANT> morning, night, whatever
13:34:04 <Katie> Have you thought about Giantess? ;')
13:34:11 <Eric> :-D
13:34:16 <Eric> Yes please
13:34:22 <GO GIANT> no Katie, sorry
13:34:29 <GO GIANT> not today anyway
13:34:38 <GO GIANT> Giant tho ...
13:36:50 <GO GIANT> its about right for Giant
13:38:51 <GO GIANT> so what pack did you get Eric? i need a new one ... but just a day pack for me
13:40:07 <GO GIANT> no Castle prediction ... thats odd, should be due for double interval
13:47:32 <Dave from B™> Time to go home. Have a great evening everyone!
13:51:07 <GO GIANT> daisy
13:51:10 <Katie> Dacyh
13:51:15 <Katie> Wow. Daisy. Sheesh
13:51:45 <ynpvisitor34> Spotlight
13:52:06 <GO GIANT> it is nicely lit
13:54:04 <GO GIANT> bulger
14:02:45 <GO GIANT> LC
14:04:09 <Katie> With the wind play, it seems almost frantic.
14:04:54 <Katie> where on the (current) cam view is Bulger?
14:07:47 <GO GIANT> to the left of Grand and Spasmodic, behind the trees
14:07:56 <GO GIANT> right of Sawmill
14:08:30 <Katie> Thanks
14:08:56 <GO GIANT> nor erupting now, but its behind the stand of trees in the middle
14:09:06 <GO GIANT> its the only thing there
14:15:55 <GO GIANT> 4" of snow in Vegas ........ wonder what that was like
14:16:34 <Eric> wow
15:10:58 <GO GIANT> LC
15:43:57 <GO GIANT> LC
16:02:46 <GO GIANT> grand
16:02:59 <GO GIANT> giving itself a chance for 5 today
16:09:38 <GO GIANT> nice 2nd
16:38:57 <GO GIANT> goodnight, enjoy Giant and Lion
16:40:51 <GO GIANT> btw - i flagged the 16 Feb 2111 Daisy eruption since its not right. needs another flag
18:48:02 <Kevin L™🌵> Did I miss anything?
18:52:37 <ynpvisitor62> OF must have gone at some point a while ago.
19:41:36 <ynpvisitor62> OF
19:50:15 <ynpvisitor41> Tall steam cloud at castle
20:13:29 <ynpvisitor60> Kevin recovered from the race
20:13:53 <Kevin L™🌵> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
20:14:09 <ynpvisitor60> And broke the cam
20:14:37 <ynpvisitor60> How do you get 0 points in the daytona 500?
20:15:02 <Kevin L™🌵> Finish last?
20:15:21 <ynpvisitor60> Nope, they were still running
20:15:45 <ynpvisitor60> Several drivers got zip
20:16:50 <ynpvisitor60> That person is going to get cold stuck in time.
20:17:37 <Kevin L™🌵> To be flat honest I really don't understand the points system. They keep changing it.
20:18:51 <ynpvisitor60> Must be why they lost a bunch of big sponsors.
20:19:38 <ynpvisitor60> Almost looks like plume behind of'.
20:21:13 <ynpvisitor60> Well this goo is not worth watching.
20:22:01 <Kevin L™🌵> yep. Almost bedtime
21:37:45 <ynpvisitor6> Lion ie
21:40:08 <ynpvisitor97> daisy
21:55:33 <ynpvisitor97> grand