Showing logs for date: 2019-03-06
04:40:44 <LindaG> Good morning
04:52:07 <Sam> Morning Linda
04:52:30 <CraigC> hey folks
04:52:42 <Sam> Hey Craig
04:52:45 <CraigC> my name was already loaded when I opened the site, that was cool
04:52:52 <CraigC> hey Sam and Linda
04:52:55 <LindaG> Hi craig
04:53:05 <CraigC> and flash was already on
04:53:09 <LindaG> Hi sam
04:53:49 <Sam> Let's see if I remember. Control + Scroll back to check static archives, right Craig? :)
04:54:24 <CraigC> yep
04:55:01 <CraigC> then after you get to an image you want, copy and paste the URL here and we can view it
04:55:15 <Sam> Excellent.
04:55:16 <LindaG> I'm on EST that means you guys are really early risers
04:55:21 <CraigC> ooops, click on it first to enlarge it, then c+p the URL
04:55:56 <Sam> I'm awake at 5:30 most mornings
04:55:59 <Sam> M-F
04:56:25 <Sam> OF
04:56:42 <CraigC> hey Joe, whichever visitor you are :)
04:56:54 <CraigC> Joe already entered OF before anyone called it
04:57:09 <LindaG> He seems to like the 40s 😊
04:57:23 <Joe> I'm Joe today :)
04:57:41 <Sam> Haha! Hello Joe.
04:58:04 <Joe> hi Sam
04:58:16 <Joe> and everyone
04:58:19 <LindaG> Hi joe
04:58:27 <CraigC> haha, touche'
04:58:29 <LindaG> Dome
05:02:54 <LindaG> Blue sky is encouraging
05:08:37 <Joe> :p snow
05:09:04 <LindaG> Changed in about 10 seconds, amazing
05:09:32 <Sam> LOL, love the western frontier
05:11:39 <LindaG> Prediction is 4-8 in snow maybe more
05:21:11 <CraigC> mornin Dave
05:21:18 <Dave from B™> Morning everyone
05:21:26 <Joe> hi Dave
05:30:57 <LindaG> Hi dave
05:31:42 <Dave from B™> Grand should be very soon
05:45:24 <LindaG> Grand
05:46:46 <LindaG> I saw a spike was starting to wonder
05:54:28 <Joe> 10min
05:57:32 <LindaG> I didnt see 2nd burst did you?
05:57:53 <Joe> no
06:49:40 <Dave from B™> Morning Ryan
06:50:09 <Ryan> Morning
06:51:26 <Dave from B™> FB posts regarding last Sb sure look weird. It had to have snowed overnight after the eruption.
06:52:33 <Ryan> Dunno, on 4 June no water landed more than five or ten feet from the vents in the direction of the platforms.
06:53:00 <Ryan> The vents angle away from the platforms, if the wind is blowing with the angle....
06:53:58 <Dave from B™> so weird to me that water isn't sprayed everywhere
06:54:42 <Ryan> We had some rocks thrown our way, but no water. That all angled up and away from the platforms.
06:58:39 <Dave from B™> I hope Norris is prepared for the hoards of visitors this year
07:00:20 <Ryan> I hope so too. Of course, anyone wanting to see Steamboat should be there at daybreak anyways and avoid the crowd.
07:00:50 <Ryan> I was impressed after the 4 June eruption to see that a really large portion of the vehicles in the lot were gazers.
07:01:44 <Dave from B™> Yeah....I was one of the first 4 or 5 people there everyday I went
07:02:30 <Dave from B™> If I'm going to miss an eruption while I'm in the park, it's going to have to erupt in the dark
07:02:31 <Ryan> Hopefully the SB hubbub will calm down among general tourists. But I wont hold my breath.
07:02:54 <Dave from B™> I'm not expecting it to calm down
07:03:07 <Dave from B™> But it is "old" news now :)
07:03:32 <Ryan> Yeah, I am hoping less people are interested. I hope the "right" people are interested.
07:04:09 <Dave from B™> I know many gazers who weren't lucky last year who will be back
07:05:08 <Dave from B™> Are we all going to go into a depression when this eruptive episode finally ends?
07:05:37 <Ryan> I think everyone will have to learn to like Grand again
07:05:58 <Dave from B™> Some years all we had was BH and Grand
07:06:20 <Ryan> One year all you had was Grand ahah
07:06:55 <Dave from B™> when we were having the false indy's?
07:07:27 <Ryan> 2013, if I remember right
07:07:29 <Kevin L™🌵> Every year I have been there there is always something interesting.
07:08:12 <Ryan> If you cant find something interesting in the Upper Geyser Basin you probably shouldn't be there.
07:23:14 <Kevin L™🌵> 6.3 eq in New Zealand.
07:25:08 <Dave from B™> Ryan, I agree. I could sit and stare at the Grotto Group all day or go listen to BSP thumps or in some years watch overflow at Oblong....lots of things to do
07:26:46 <Ryan> I like curling up on the boardwalk near Oblong. Most years Oblong is active, that area is less travelled, and I can see Daisy, get to Grand, or Grotto if Rocket has potential.
07:26:58 <Ryan> Early mornings on Geyser Hill are amazing
07:28:30 <Dave from B™> It is a fun spot. Even bluebirds around there as well
07:29:52 <Dave from B™> Also a great spot to watch for osprey
07:53:04 <Katie> good morning
07:54:03 <Dave from B™> Morning Katie
08:07:12 <Rice> What is on the YNM graph?
08:07:41 <Rice> Looks like steamboat, but........
08:08:10 <Joe> ynm is very interesting ??
08:08:29 <Dave from B™> wow....A bird hit a tree?
08:08:56 <Rice> Damn big bird
08:09:05 <Katie> whoa!
08:09:14 <Joe> Rice it does look like a SBsignature
08:09:22 <Dave from B™> Could be the beginning of a disturbance if it is SB again
08:10:18 <Joe> we will have to wait 90 min for the tantalus creek gauges to show something or not
08:10:45 <LindaG> It looks like Bee went to the darkside again
08:11:15 <Rice> 1d10 hrs would be a record breaking short interval.
08:11:37 <Joe> the flow is already high so if it is SB the flow spike will be small
08:11:39 <Dave from B™> This is NOT an interval we want to see
08:12:08 <LindaG> What does it mean dave?
08:12:52 <Rice> You know how we talked about how the snow was not melted around SB, maybe it did not go off the other day?
08:13:19 <Dave from B™> Rice, it was in a steam phase so it did erupt
08:13:52 <Dave from B™> Linda, last years short interval led to the Spring disturbance which produced 3 intervals between 14 and 21 days
08:14:37 <LindaG> Ok. Thanks
08:15:03 <Rice> You know.... It could be an earthquake, just what the mointor was set up to detect?
08:15:05 <Dave from B™> Ryan, any thoughts?
08:15:19 <Dave from B™> Let me check EQ map
08:16:03 <Katie> I looked at the other seismos, but I don't know how they are all configured. I was going to look at earthquake map, too.
08:16:19 <Katie> EQ in Peru!
08:16:33 <Dave from B™> Kevin mentioned a 6 something NZ quake earlier today
08:17:03 <Katie> https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us1000j96d/executive
08:17:08 <LindaG> Peru was a 7.0
08:17:48 <Kevin L™🌵> Peru was about a week ago.
08:18:32 <Katie> Today, 8:46am
08:18:41 <Dave from B™> Kevin when was the NZ quake?
08:18:53 <Katie> Oh, wait, you're right, Kevin!
08:19:27 <Joe> I entered it ? I will ckeck the gauges when I get back from PT, and will delete it if necessary.
08:20:13 <Joe> Or confirm if the gauges show something
08:21:18 <Dave from B™> Kevin, I think your granddaughter got a hold of the YMR siesmo:)
08:21:21 <Joe> Gt does not allow that close of interval so I had to enter it as other geyser then change it to SB
08:21:43 <Dave from B™> Why would GT do that? Makes no sense
08:22:48 <LindaG> New Zealand https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us1000jb8d/executive
08:24:14 <Kevin L™🌵> NZ eq was within the last few hours.
08:25:16 <LindaG> I posted above
08:25:53 <Dave from B™> My guess is snow removal equipment in the parking lot
08:26:06 <LindaG> I think 8:46 mountain time
08:26:27 <Kevin L™🌵> Think you are right on the seismo Dave.
08:27:39 <Dave from B™> It has gotten me to think about what type of EQ could spur a SB eruption
08:29:58 <LindaG> Bison moving thru
08:31:35 <ynpvisitor2> I do wonder why plows would only be there for 15 minutes?
08:32:34 <Dave from B™> Good point 2
08:33:41 <ynpvisitor2> Plows are scheduled to arrive to Norris today though
08:34:07 <ynpvisitor2> A mystery!
08:34:28 <Dave from B™> And, you like your mysteries!:)
08:35:11 <Kevin L™🌵> Hopefully we will have some people there that can give us a report.
08:35:28 <ynpvisitor2> In this case, I wish I had the cell phone number of the plow operator!!
08:35:56 <ynpvisitor2> No people Kevin. Road is closed
08:37:14 <Kevin L™🌵> I was thinking NPS types such as plow operators, road people, rangers, etc.
08:37:22 <ynpvisitor2> Admin travel to Norris from Mammoth is not until the 14th
08:37:47 <ynpvisitor2> Plow folks would be it this week.
08:38:09 <Dave from B™> Where's Bill?
08:38:26 <ynpvisitor2> They are scheduled to go toward Canyon starting tomorrow
08:39:45 <ynpvisitor2> Bill is in Mammoth, at his office, I would guess
08:40:10 <Ryan> Not Steamboat
08:40:21 <Ryan> Thats either a snow plow or an earthquake.
08:40:26 <ynpvisitor82> Kevin - can you add Major to your SB time please?
08:40:48 <Kevin L™🌵> Yes I can
08:40:55 <Ryan> Steamboat has a very, very, long and gradual tail off lasting hours. It doesnt return to quiet in less than twenty minutes.
08:41:07 <Ryan> Thats definitely not Steamboat.
08:41:46 <Kevin L™🌵> Whirlgig major?
08:42:04 <Ryan> No, its either snow plows or an earthquake.
08:42:50 <Ryan> That trace doesnt show up on the other seismographs, I vote snow plows or very local earthquake.
08:43:16 <Dave from B™> Maybe they are snowblowing the trail to SB?:D
08:43:34 <ynpvisitors> We can only hope :)
08:43:40 <ynpvisitor2> An ice cutter?
08:44:37 <Ryan> So I put a flag on the entry. Causation aside, Steamboat having a sub 2 day interval would be... something.
08:44:51 <ynpvisitor2> I was surprised at the video posted of steam phase yesterday. The trees were not coated at all. At -20, I thought the whole place would have been ice
08:45:31 <ynpvisitor2> No flag needed Ryan. Joe said he would take it down. He’s at PT
08:45:32 <Dave from B™> 2, I think wind direction makes a big difference at SB
08:45:44 <ynpvisitor2> It was calm
08:46:01 <Ryan> OK, still put it there so FB and others dont see it and go crazy.
08:46:44 <ynpvisitor2> So here is a question, at -20, does the water turn to ice before dropping to the ground?
08:46:49 <Ryan> Of course, they will either go crazy about the entry or my flagging it. I used to the latter though.
08:47:02 <ynpvisitor2> It goes up 300 feet.
08:47:27 <Ryan> 2, probably. the water in SB's plume is usually atomized by the time it his that height. Even in summer it comes down as more of a heavy spray than a dousing.
08:47:47 <Sam> I came because of the Facebook comments haha
08:48:05 <Sam> Only 1 eq being reported right now and that's a 0.5
08:48:34 <Dave from B™> yw, Sam:)
08:48:47 <Sam> :)
08:50:37 <Sam> Wonder what that was...I'll check back later. Back to work haha
09:00:03 <ynpvisitor2> Dave started the FB thread!! Too funny
09:08:15 <Kevin L™🌵> Daisy
09:12:58 <Dave from B™> Hey....There is a chance it was SB....although a very very very small one
09:14:05 <Dave from B™> I put it out there so gazers could talk about it
09:14:18 <ynpvisitors> Dave, don't embarrass yourself. We all know your Steamboat record :) ...
09:14:25 <Kevin L™🌵> It was a typo
09:15:00 <Dave from B™> ouch
09:15:29 <ynpvisitors> Would it help if I said I was sorry? :)
09:15:48 <Dave from B™> You already had a smiley face....that lessened the blow
09:17:08 <ynpvisitor43> wonder what the spread for Steamboat is on GT - several days?
09:44:55 <Betty> hmm, very quiet here. HI ALL (trying to wake up everybody :-) )
09:45:54 <Kevin L™🌵> Ich höre schnarchen
09:46:40 <Betty> at least you are awake. hi Kevin
09:46:42 <ynpvisitor43> they are all tired from the non-Steamboat posting
09:47:18 <Kevin L™🌵> Slow day.
09:47:58 <Betty> oh, what is it? plowing?
09:48:21 <Dave from B™> I'm been assessed a 3 hour penalty
09:48:48 <Betty> hi 43 and Dave
09:48:56 <Betty> what did you do?
09:48:59 <Dave from B™> Hi Betty
09:49:12 <Dave from B™> I posted SB with a ? on FB
09:49:29 <Betty> oha :-)
09:49:36 <Kevin L™🌵> It was a woodpecker
09:50:27 <ynpvisitor43> lp;o9kmj000000000000000000e4311111111
09:50:43 <Kevin L™🌵> So there!
09:50:46 <Betty> cat?
09:50:51 <ynpvisitor43> ^^ sorry, cat walked by
09:50:52 <Dave from B™> meow
09:51:27 <Kevin L™🌵> That is catspeak for hello
09:51:31 <Betty> dome ie
09:51:54 <Betty> there was a typo
09:53:27 <ynpvisitor43> actually it was catspeak for "bird outside the window!!"
09:57:15 <Dave from B™> My dogs do that with the magpies that hang around
09:57:53 <Kevin L™🌵> I think the magpies could take your dog.
09:58:20 <Dave from B™> They would have a hard time catching my dogs
09:59:12 <Betty> LC
09:59:39 <Dave from B™> My oldest turns 4 today
10:07:06 <Katie> I've been otherwise engaged. I take it there was no runoff indication in Tantalus?
10:11:01 <Betty> I don´t see it
10:12:03 <Dave from B™> I don't see it
10:12:38 <Kevin L™🌵> Bubblers?
10:13:05 <Betty> yay
10:16:00 <CraigC> did SB have eruption dysfunction?
10:16:21 <Betty> riverside
10:17:43 <Dave from B™> CraigC, that joke is NOT going to work 2 days in a row!:)
10:18:01 <CraigC> LOL
10:18:25 <Betty> hahaha
10:20:09 <Dave from B™> I can't do it. I'm just going to let that go by
10:21:49 <Betty> :-)
10:22:36 <Betty> dome
10:23:06 <Sam> No earthquakes reported so far
10:23:47 <Sam> I guess two small ones are
10:26:12 <Dave from B™> Snow removal equipment is the most logical answer
10:26:36 <Sam> Probably right.
10:27:07 <Dave from B™> Kent, you still here?
10:29:03 <ynpvisitor31> I expected a SB video to have ice everywhere. I was very surprised by the video
10:29:27 <Katie> It does make sense that it would fall as snow, though...
10:29:48 <ynpvisitor43> did the steam power look 'typical'?
10:30:17 <ynpvisitor31> I would have expected brown snow. It was so pristine
10:31:00 <ynpvisitor31> what's typical? Every eruption has been different that has been observed. There were photos of huge plumes leading into Norris, so I'd day it was a real steam phase
10:31:30 <ynpvisitor31> a short BH interval...interesting.
10:31:59 <ynpvisitor31> it erupted with the temperature shift
10:32:14 <ynpvisitor43> oh, no close ups of the steam phase? I don't know what people saw
10:33:33 <Dave from B™> There is a closeup steam phase on FB
10:33:52 <Dave from B™> Well, let me take a look at it
10:36:40 <Dave from B™> It is later in the steam phase
10:39:12 <ynpvisitor31> it was from 10:30 if I remember correctly
10:48:42 <ynpvisitor31> crowds are thinning
10:55:15 <Joe> WOW! 2 people sure get carried away with flags!
10:56:02 <Joe> I posted that I would delete the post when I got back from PT...THAHKS!
10:56:27 <ynpvisitor31> I tried to dissuade them Joe
10:56:51 <ynpvisitor31> I said exactly that, that you would be back from PT and delete it. It was Ryan, he is a control type person, he could not wait
10:56:57 <Joe> THANK YOU #31
10:57:16 <ynpvisitor31> you are welcome, unfortunately he did not listen to me
10:58:53 <Joe> we should be given the opportunity to delete our own posts
10:59:03 <ynpvisitor31> I completely agree
11:00:13 <Joe> Flags are a necessary thing and are no problem, it is when someone else comes along and double flags the post then it is gone
11:00:16 <Dave from B™> Seems to be the afore mentioned person complains about his posts being flagged.....hmmmm
11:00:34 <Joe> So it wasn"t just Ryan
11:00:41 <ynpvisitor31> the irony is not lost on me Dave
11:00:52 <ynpvisitor31> no, it takes two. No idea who the second one was
11:01:04 <ynpvisitor31> the post disappears at that point.
11:02:03 <ynpvisitor31> I think consensus had been reached that it was not an eruption. So someone else came in and also flagged it
11:02:45 <ynpvisitor31> OF
11:03:10 <Dave from B™> Joe, how did PT go?
11:03:17 <Joe> I have over 10000 eruptions posted and had only 4 flag deleted which I deserved as I was new then and did not know the ins and outs but this flag deletion was unnecessary
11:03:37 <Joe> Dave, It went very well :)
11:03:55 <Dave from B™> Great
11:04:21 <ynpvisitor31> 10,000, wow, thanks for all the posts
11:04:31 <Joe> The shoulder is improving faster than they expected.
11:05:15 <Dave from B™> That means you've been faithfully doing your exercises
11:05:45 <ynpvisitor31> how often does static refresh at OF? It almost missed that entire eruption
11:05:46 <Joe> well, no big deal...on to watching geysers :)
11:06:30 <Joe> static changes every minute
11:06:57 <Joe> usually :)
11:10:46 <ynpvisitor31> thank you
11:11:28 <Dave from B™> I'm ready to start another YNP history book....I wonder what I should read.
11:19:22 <Joe> what have you not read Dave
11:20:45 <Lori S> Just reading the recent history above. Bob was spritzed in the lot about the time that video was taken or within a half hour anyway.
11:21:33 <Lori S> But I thought the same about how the snow looked in the video. It slightly had a gray tinge to it but that could have just been the video.
11:21:38 <Dave from B™> Thanks Lori. Is Bob on the road today?
11:21:55 <Lori S> He is off.
11:22:02 <Lori S> And not working too. LOL
11:23:05 <Lori S> He was the Canyon King this winter and now his road is closed so he thinks they will forget he exists to send to Old Faithful.
11:23:30 <Lori S> As in, their scheduler always sent him to Canyon for some reason.
11:24:28 <Dave from B™> I'm really hoping to drive to Canyon on the day the road opens. I've never seen the Lower Falls ice cone.
11:25:12 <Lori S> Take Yak Trax. The rim overlooks are usually very icy on opening day.
11:26:25 <Kevin L™🌵> I can see the headlines: Billings fishmonger takes a flyer in the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone.
11:26:34 <Dave from B™> Yeah....I don't want to be one of the many who have fallen in the canyon
11:26:55 <Dave from B™> I'll be the one crawling from the parking lot
11:27:23 <Lori S> Ha. I almost did lat spring at Artist Point. The rovk wall came in handy as a railing.
11:27:32 <Lori S> rock
11:28:12 <Dave from B™> I can't wait to see the work done on the South Rim near the Uncle Tom trail
11:28:17 <Kevin L™🌵> I get nervous up there. Don't like heights.
11:28:30 <Joe> ddaisy
11:28:31 <Dave from B™> Inspiration Point remodel is really nice
11:28:50 <Lori S> Dave, yes it is.
11:29:18 <Lori S> I also like the trail to the new partial view of Upper Falls to the left of the UT lot.
11:29:39 <Joe> ddaisy does not turn blue but daisy does
11:29:46 <Lori S> Kevin, don't go to the new Inspiration Point then.
11:30:57 <Lori S> That new metal walk over the canyon there where you can see down is a bit, um, terrifying.
11:31:27 <Dave from B™> I wonder how they will update the Upper Falls brink
11:32:37 <Lori S> We will should be able to watch them from UT viewpoint of the falls
11:32:43 <Lori S> Upper, I mean
11:32:58 <Joe> that Daisy was unexpected 2h 21min
11:34:16 <Joe> grand
11:36:25 <Dave from B™> Lori, have you ever walked to Crystal Falls?
11:37:08 <Jake> the flagging system is imperfect. It has been around since the beginning of GT. I never knew how people would really react to it. The goal is to have as clean and transparent of data as possible. Overall, it has been very good. I would not expect a user with 1,000's of entries to have zero flag deleted entries. Mistakes happen, typos happen, and the community can clean those up.
11:37:51 <ynpvisitor...> I am ready to see Grand from the benches
11:38:08 <Dave from B™> wb, Kent...me, too!
11:39:32 <Dave from B™> Jake, it is amazing how easily feelings can get hurt regarding flagging. I've seen it many times.
11:40:40 <Sam> Joe and I have had conversations about the flags. I've been flagged several times, but that's because I was inputting eruptions incorrectly.
11:41:12 <ynpvisitor31> I do think the flagging feature is a good one, and sometimes necessary.
11:41:16 <Jake> this morning's Steamboat presents an interesting case. I really don't like to read statements like "it did not happen". I thought it was highly unlikely because the look of the seismo signature was different and the interval timing. But to say that it did not erupt (unless one is standing there) is not valid either. Additional evidence would be needed to support the eruption claims like...
11:41:33 <Jake> Tantalus Creek spikes or pics coming in on social media
11:41:43 <Dave from B™> Joe, I'm open to reading any book. I read most of the oldies when I was in high school in 1980-81
11:41:43 <Sam> Well speaking of that, did Tantalus increase?
11:42:04 <Jake> no, it decreased
11:42:04 <Sam> Grand is having a few bursts
11:42:27 <Kevin L™🌵> Most flagging has been good but I know there have been people who have no clue what they are talking about flag me.
11:42:31 <Jake> so the YNM rumbling + Tantalus decline means that Steamboat was actually sucking in water at a rapid rate
11:42:34 <Joe> I had to leave for a bit and posted that i would delete it if necessary when i came back but what can I say, it is over
11:42:44 <Dave from B™> No, it did not increase
11:43:07 <Dave from B™> haha Jake
11:43:15 <Sam> That's so strange. Would have been nice to have had someone actually at the platform.
11:43:37 <Dave from B™> I'm not sure anyone will be there today except for road plows
11:44:15 <Sam> It'll just be a mystery :)
11:44:20 <ynpvisitor31> Road plow guys would have just been taking a turn toward Canyon
11:44:27 <Dave from B™> Someday, we may get a 2 day interval on SB
11:44:30 <Jake> I understand the need for immediate accuracy in reports and quick flagging. Especially with a feature as popular as Steamboat. The gazing community has grown. GT makes it more accessible. There's a bit of a learning curve to understanding conventions that old timers want to see used for each geyser.
11:44:40 <Sam> YNP is a fascinating place.
11:44:44 <ynpvisitor31> 2nd
11:44:48 <Joe> I,ll bet it was flagged before the 90 minutes to see what happened at tantalus
11:44:53 <Kevin L™🌵> :)
11:45:05 <Kevin L™🌵> I was hoping for that 2nd
11:45:21 <ynpvisitor31> Ryan said he was trying to stop any FB chatter, yet Dave had started that already
11:45:40 <Kevin L™🌵> Dave broke it.
11:45:57 <Jake> We'll be trying to implement some changes this spring to help resolve these kinds of discussions
11:46:03 <Joe> i really don't care about FB :)
11:46:10 <Dave from B™> Wait a minute 31. I put a ? behind mine. I was just looking for opinions and I got it!
11:46:15 <Dave from B™> :)
11:46:32 <ynpvisitor31> did you delete your post? That might be helpful now
11:46:58 <Dave from B™> Can I delete it?
11:46:59 <Sam> The SB entry was deleted, yes.
11:47:03 <ynpvisitor31> there is a post on Insider Hub too now
11:47:10 <ynpvisitor31> yes, anyone can delete a post Dave
11:47:10 <Sam> On GT anyway
11:47:15 <ynpvisitor31> upper right corner
11:47:24 <ynpvisitor31> chose delete
11:47:26 <Sam> What's Insider Hub?
11:47:28 <ynpvisitor31> choose
11:47:29 <Jake> I wouldn't delete the FB post if I were you
11:47:43 <ynpvisitor31> it's Katie's FB page, at least she is an admin on it
11:47:50 <Lori S> Dave, yes, I have walked to Crystal Falls. Cool looking down at it.
11:48:03 <Jake> that may sound threatening, it's not a threat ;)
11:48:17 <Jake> I think it's important to have that discussion out in the open
11:48:19 <ynpvisitor31> ha ha, why not?
11:48:21 <Dave from B™> I'm not going to delete my FB post because I never said it erupted
11:48:26 <ynpvisitor...> That was a very good Grand:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
11:48:33 <ynpvisitor31> it was a very nice Grand
11:48:39 <Lori S> I agree with Jake about saying for sure something has erupted or not unless there was a witness.
11:49:02 <Dave from B™> Thanks Lori re Crystal. Hope to make it there this year if that area is open
11:49:13 <ynpvisitor31> well there are a lot of arguments for today not being SB even though no witnesses
11:49:19 <Joe> that is why i posted it with a ?
11:49:25 <Lori S> And Dave, indeed you didn't.
11:49:46 <Lori S> on fb
11:49:48 <Sam> But I guess if the other classic signatures didn't appear, then that would help narrow it down?
11:50:02 <Kevin L™🌵> Aurum
11:50:05 <Sam> But I agree with everyone - impossible to really know unless someone was actually there
11:50:06 <ynpvisitor31> hey Aurum
11:50:09 <ynpvisitor31> thanks Joe
11:50:11 <Joe> nice
11:50:14 <Katie> Yes, I made the post on Insider Hub (which, yes, I created and admin). But, like Dave, I also didn't declare an eruption, so I don't see a need to delete it.
11:50:18 <Dave from B™> I would laugh if someone was there today and actually saw it
11:50:30 <Lori S> my webcam is spinning again. drat. brb
11:50:40 <Lori S> Haha Dave, mee too.
11:50:41 <Jake> if the seismo signature was SB related, it was unlike any known eruption this active phase
11:50:43 <ynpvisitor31> that is my first Aurum in a while
11:51:15 <Kevin L™🌵> Been a long time since I got a for sure eruption.
11:51:18 <Jake> a 2 day interval would be extraordinary so extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence based on that alone
11:51:25 <Lori S> I disagree with the "impossible to have a 2 day interval" too. It just hasn't ever done it before.
11:51:52 <Dave from B™> Maybe someday, we'll be able to say "It does that"
11:52:21 <Jake> right, impossible is not the correct word there imho
11:52:41 <ynpvisitor31> I'm going with EXTREMELY unlikely
11:52:49 <Dave from B™> You know what I really took from today? What type of EQ would it take to make SB erupt and how close would it have to be to Norris?
11:53:11 <ynpvisitor31> if the water level was not right, would an EQ even make it erupt?
11:53:23 <ynpvisitor31> no water in system, it would be hard to erupt anything
11:54:12 <Katie> It's also never had a series of 40 eruptions before, either, so "has never happened" does not equal "can never happen" all by itself.
11:54:35 <Dave from B™> 31, you're probably correct. It would have to be later in the interval
11:55:06 <Katie> I don't think it was an eruption, but not because of lack of precedent.
11:55:32 <Dave from B™> I have another question then....I know there is 2 water sources for SB. Are both used on every eruption?
11:56:03 <Jake> daily GT (website) visitation is 2 to 3 times higher this winter than previous winters. I think much of that has been driven by the interest in Steamboat so it's attracting A LOT of eyeballs. Summer GT visitation was up 20% - 30%
11:56:25 <Dave from B™> wow...Thanks, Jake
11:57:02 <Sam> Still only two tiny quakes have been reported today
11:57:54 <Sam> So unless there's a delay in reporting today, an eq seems unlikely
11:57:56 <Dave from B™> A LOT of gazers joined the group in 2018
11:58:20 <Sam> Dave from B™, me included :)
11:58:30 <Dave from B™> And, to be frank, we really needed 2018 to bolster the force
11:59:39 <Jake> I have never done an April Fool's prank that intentionally messes with the GT data, but I would love to talk U of U into releasing a "special" seismo trace on that day. Especially if Steamboat had just erupted Mar 29/30
12:00:21 <Sam> Hahaha.
12:00:22 <Dave from B™> Jake, I had a good one for you but it's lost in my memory bank somewhere
12:00:41 <Sam> But I think that'd freak out some non-gazers
12:00:56 <Katie> I "used" geyser times for years and promoted the site to visitors, but didn't actually "join" until 2018.
12:01:28 <Kevin L™🌵> FYI the unique hits on this cam were up 40% in 2018 over 2017.
12:02:01 <Dave from B™> And, that should mean more cams!:)
12:02:16 <Lori S> "bolster the force" :thumbsup:
12:02:58 <Lori S> My cam is now back.
12:03:22 <Lori S> So, Bob said there were no plows parked in sight of Norris yesterday waiting to go south.
12:03:34 <Dave from B™> I can't wait to get back to SB platform and Giant cage.
12:03:46 <Lori S> Not to say they didn't get there this morning. Just presenting the info.
12:04:06 <Dave from B™> Lori, they were coming to Norris from the north today and then turning towards Canyon per another chatroom memeber ealier today
12:04:21 <Lori S> oh, ok.
12:04:28 <Dave from B™> They sounded like they had "inside" info
12:04:39 <Lori S> Must be nice. LOL
12:04:53 <Dave from B™> I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Vixen of Vixen but I can't be certain
12:05:01 <Jake> 40% is roughly inline with GT increase, maybe a little higher
12:05:17 <Lori S> Is that her nickname?
12:06:38 <LindaG> It would be cool to have the line on the seismo eventually write April fools day after the steamboat signature
12:06:58 <Lori S> Haha Linda. Yes.
12:07:48 <Lori S> Given what has happened at work in the last 30 minutes, I would LOVE to be in any basin right now.
12:08:24 <Lori S> Plus apparently a roof collapsed here in town on a residence.
12:08:36 <Jake> that would be good. Can't mess with something so serious like active volcano monitoring though. I wish the world were different.
12:09:11 <Dave from B™> Lori, she was pronounced something of Vixen but I'm not sure exactly. The late Mr. Warnock had names for many gazers
12:09:18 <LindaG> Oh darn 😉
12:15:27 <Katie> Oh. When we were talking about joining - were we talking about Geyser Times or the Geyser Gazers FB group? If the group, I joined THAT long before 2018.
12:15:28 <Jake> bison charging makes the news in SLC: https://fox13now.com/2019/03/05/cache-county-trail-runner-learns-that-bison-rule-on-antelope-island/
12:15:46 <Jake> charging video starts at 00:50
12:16:31 <Jake> it's the kind of thing that looks like a daily summertime event in YNP though
12:16:53 <Dave from B™> I was talking about gazers being born...how you did it is not the mani point
12:17:15 <Jake> for the news?
12:17:35 <CraigC> was the bison charging, or just jumping around excited? I didn't view it as charging
12:17:59 <Katie> I don't see it as charging, either. But I wouldn't have wanted to be on a snowmobile near it. :)
12:18:18 <LindaG> I thought it was just having so e fun, he could have done damage if he wanted to
12:18:47 <LindaG> *some
12:19:07 <Jake> it makes the turn to follow the guy so it looks like charging to me
12:20:08 <Jake> depending on the news outlet here, Dave, people are way more concerned about gays being born than gazers
12:20:26 <Jake> haha, which one?
12:20:27 <Katie> What about gay gazers?
12:20:28 <Dave from B™> C'mon, Jake!:)
12:20:40 <Jake> I aspire to make flaggable comments
12:20:44 <CraigC> reporting the bison as charging, when it was a weak signal
12:21:13 <Lori S> Craig, haha
12:21:14 <Dave from B™> I can't wait to see how many gazers Mr Gushwa enters in his book this year
12:21:38 <Lori S> Who is Mr Gushwa?
12:22:16 <Lori S> Wait, you can flag a comment on here? lol
12:22:50 <CraigC> Eric is on vacation, we can do anything
12:23:13 <Lori S> Ah, I C
12:23:56 <Lori S> So I have to ask, how do you flag a comment?
12:24:21 <Lori S> Or is that reserved for Cam operators?
12:24:25 <Dave from B™> Lori, don't go there!:)
12:24:50 <Dave from B™> Any GT user can do it
12:25:11 <Lori S> I know how to Flag on GT, I meant on here. Or are they connected?
12:25:26 <Dave from B™> Should I practice on an entry for you....let's see which one should I pick?:)
12:25:37 <CraigC> Lori S, I don't think you can on here, I was joking about it
12:25:42 <Jake> there's no flagging here in chat, Craig is messing with you
12:25:42 <Lori S> Uh oh
12:25:44 <Dave from B™> The entries to the right on this page are from GT
12:25:59 <Jake> GT entries & comments CAN be flagged
12:26:16 <Lori S> *woosh* right over my head
12:26:16 <ynpvisitor109> its funny the Bison walk throught the camps in early spring and fall not caring on Antlope Island. There can be 150 boy scouts camped there the bisdon dont care
12:26:18 <Betty> Dome ie
12:26:39 <Dave from B™> Lori, Greg Gushwa is a gazer who writes down in his notebook every gazer he meets on every trip he takes
12:26:49 <CraigC> ynpvisitor109, my friend got chased by one on the island a few years ago
12:26:51 <Betty> I need BH soon
12:27:06 <Jake> before moving here, I had no idea there were bison on Antelope Island
12:27:20 <LindaG> BH went off close to misnight
12:27:24 <ynpvisitor109> I camped with scouts 4 times a year never had a problem
12:27:26 <Lori S> Thx Dave.
12:27:31 <LindaG> *misnight
12:27:38 <CraigC> ynpvisitor109, I was out there riding 2 days ago and there was a bison about 30 feet from the trail and I stopped and rested before I went as fast as I could..... I was scared
12:27:46 <LindaG> Omg I misspelled the correction
12:27:50 <Jake> and comparing the visitor experience between Antelope Island and Yellowstone with regards to people behavior is fun
12:28:05 <Betty> lol, Linda
12:28:08 <Lori S> Linda, haha
12:28:20 <ynpvisitor109> Hell wiith boy scouts anything will happen
12:28:39 <CraigC> on the Island there are Antelopes and Buffalo, rather than Pronghorn and Bison..... Utah :)
12:28:48 <Dave from B™> Linda, do you want to try again?:)
12:28:50 <ynpvisitor109> lol
12:28:57 <Kevin L™🌵> I think it is funny that they say a safe distance is about double what you think it should be.
12:29:01 <Jake> muleys AND deer, too!
12:29:13 <LindaG> Midnight!
12:29:19 <Betty> where is Antelope Island? Great Salt Lake?
12:29:26 <Lori S> Kevin, that means some nationalities would get 2 feet away insyead of 1
12:29:34 <Lori S> insead
12:29:36 <CraigC> Betty, yes
12:29:40 <Dave from B™> Yes, Betty
12:29:41 <Kevin L™🌵> True Lori
12:29:41 <Lori S> INSTEAD
12:29:43 <Betty> thx
12:29:48 <ynpvisitor109> Betty it is the biggest island in the great salt lake
12:29:48 <CraigC> ynpvisitor109, where do you live?
12:29:51 <Dave from B™> You see it to the west when you are landing at the airport
12:30:10 <LindaG> Lori, lol its contagious
12:30:16 <Jake> but it's Utah, so they're bysyn & antylowp
12:30:28 <Lori S> :D
12:30:31 <Kevin L™🌵> And if the Great Salt Lake was a sea would it be Cantalope Island?
12:30:38 <Betty> I never used that airport :-)
12:30:39 <ynpvisitor109> Late fall winter and early spring is the only time you want to be there. BUGS lots of bugs
12:31:25 <Lori S> So Lynda Carter is from Utah? ;)
12:31:30 <CraigC> I debated whether to buy an annual pass for the island, but then I think of the bugs
12:31:39 <Betty> I always fly in over Kevins house
12:32:00 <ynpvisitor109> The bugs are killer. No seeums
12:32:06 <Kevin L™🌵> And she never tosses pretzels to me.
12:32:25 <Jake> it's a neat place if you're in the area and need something to do. I've only done the hike up to the tallest peak there
12:34:17 <ynpvisitor109> Beautiful place sun sets that you can not belive. It is grand for having a millon people just 10 miles from you
12:34:19 <CraigC> the bike trails there dry out sooner and faster than along the wasatch front
12:35:19 <ynpvisitor109> yes true. Still have 3.5 feet of snow at my place
12:38:10 <Katie> Same here, 109.
12:38:44 <CraigC> wow, what timing; bison on the island charging; https://www.facebook.com/KUTV2News/videos/515630865511351/?t=7
12:39:19 <ynpvisitor36> 1438 but I am delayed
12:39:45 <Dave from B™> Really, Craig?
12:41:53 <Sam> OF?
12:41:54 <CraigC> I cant find it on youtube or their website
12:42:16 <Sam> Looks like the tail end of it?
12:42:35 <Dave from B™> I bet his heart rate jumped a bit
12:42:44 <Lori S> Or is it pre play? I looked away for a few minutes.
12:43:11 <Sam> Guess we'll see if NPS changes their prediction :)
12:43:38 <Kevin L™🌵> It was 1438
12:43:49 <Lori S> Ah.
12:44:00 <Sam> Yup, my predictions window just refreshed
12:45:31 <CraigC> here is one from 2013 on the island
12:45:33 <CraigC> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qN9nepdgg
12:47:33 <LindaG> Stupid is as stupid does, hes lucky
12:48:17 <CraigC> ok, found the current story; https://fox13now.com/2019/03/05/cache-county-trail-runner-learns-that-bison-rule-on-antelope-island/
12:48:21 <Lori S> if a bison charged me, I would not be laughing as I ran away.
12:48:52 <LindaG> Seriously Impressed he hung onto his phone
12:49:03 <Lori S> Linda, true
12:49:23 <Betty> I think you have to watch BH without me. night all
12:49:34 <Lori S> Aw, night Betty.
12:49:50 <Kevin L™🌵> Good Knight
12:51:03 <CraigC> I recognize that spot where he got chased, I stopped and snapped a pic of a herd down the hill there
12:51:37 <LindaG> Night betty
13:10:29 <Dave from B™> Lori, regarding your FB post on seismos
13:11:26 <Lori S> yes...
13:11:56 <Dave from B™> seismographs can measure things differently depending ow the type and/or how they are setup.
13:12:03 <Dave from B™> on*
13:12:09 <Dave from B™> on how*
13:12:37 <Dave from B™> When you see fishynp on here, ask him. He's the expert
13:12:39 <Lori S> What does that mean, exactly?
13:13:12 <Lori S> Oh, OK. I recall someone posting that the YNM is set up to be sensitive to Steamboat or something.
13:13:29 <Lori S> Whereas the YNR is not.
13:13:47 <Dave from B™> Let me google and see what I can find
13:14:05 <Lori S> No, that's OK. Just wondering.
13:16:22 <Dave from B™> Here's an interesting link to learn a little about seismos
13:16:24 <Dave from B™> https://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/keeping_track.php
13:16:39 <Dave from B™> It's all greek to me
13:17:28 <Kevin L™🌵> Αν ήταν ελληνικό θα έμοιαζε αυτό!
13:18:11 <Lori S> "friction at the point B and mass M..." Um. I majored in Art. :)
13:18:38 <ynpvisitor36> :)
13:19:52 <Lori S> Si c'était français ça ressemblerait à ça!
13:20:48 <Lori S> Is Google Translate niet geweldig?
13:22:06 <Lori S> Thanks though Dave. I did save the link.
13:39:53 <ynpvisitor87> Graham here, going to be late, close to 1700
13:43:59 <LindaG> Ok I can take at 1600 till then
13:44:59 <Kevin L™🌵> The fat lady didn't sing yet?
13:45:20 <LindaG> 😊
13:46:25 <LindaG> Up to you Kevin if you want off at1600 I can take
13:47:45 <Kevin L™🌵> You can take it if you want.
13:48:15 <LindaG> Ok I will
13:48:32 <Dave from B™> Well, I'm off. Have a great evening everyone!
13:48:46 <LindaG> Night dave
13:48:58 <Kevin L™🌵> Good Knight
13:50:33 <Lori S> G'night Dave
13:52:32 <Lori S> Have to go. Boss coming in. LOL Good Night
13:52:40 <LindaG> Daisy
13:52:49 <Kevin L™🌵> Knight
13:52:52 <LindaG> Good night lori
13:56:14 <Kevin L™🌵> White bugs
13:56:29 <LindaG> Uhoh
14:00:35 <LindaG> Ok to take it?
14:00:45 <Kevin L™🌵> yep
14:00:51 <LindaG> Thx
14:02:45 <ynpvisitor9> when did park close?
14:03:15 <ynpvisitor48> Bubblers
14:03:41 <Kevin L™🌵> Open till the 15th
14:04:05 <ynpvisitor9> I haven't seen anyone waiting for fluffy
14:04:28 <Katie> It's late in the day - there were people earlier.
14:04:41 <ynpvisitor9> ok
14:07:58 <ynpvisitor48> Some
14:08:06 <ynpvisitor48> Dome
14:15:38 <Sam - laptop> People usually aren't around for OF at this time.
14:15:48 <Sam - laptop> 11:00 - 1:00 is a good time for crowds
14:16:08 <CraigC> of
14:18:19 <Kevin L™🌵> 🐓🐓 say thanks Linda.
14:19:19 <LindaGp> 😊 may be youll get extra eggs in the morning
14:31:18 <LindaGp> There's those nubblers
14:32:12 <Kevin L™🌵> They need a shave?
14:32:23 <CraigC> LOL
14:32:46 <LindaGp> Lol can't type tonight hehe
14:38:45 <LindaGp> Dome
14:46:47 <LindaGp> Conditions have deteriorated
14:47:15 <LindaGp> Hope Graham takes his time
14:47:20 <Kevin L™🌵> Dave broke it.
15:04:02 <GO GOGGLE> hello, sorry I am late
15:04:21 <LindaGp> Hi, I'll get out of camera
15:04:58 <GO GOGGLE> thanks for covering ... this work thing gets in the way of fun time
15:05:30 <LindaGp> Work is so intrusive 🙄
15:10:44 <GO GOGGLE> you left BH for me too
15:13:34 <LindaG> 😊
15:14:11 <LindaG> Lion looks like it wants to do it
15:15:36 <GO GOGGLE> dome
15:24:57 <LindaG> Bison by bee
15:52:50 <GO GOGGLE> shame i missed todays SB excitement
15:53:27 <Kevin L™🌵> It was an interesting signature.
15:57:36 <Kevin L™🌵> No GO CAPS?
16:00:45 <ynpvisitor21> Kevin, I was reading my new home policy. The liability coverage includes locomotives I may rent or lease.
16:01:42 <ynpvisitor86> that is a riot 21
16:02:04 <ynpvisitor86> there is a geyser named new I see
16:02:29 <Kevin L™🌵> That is interesting. I wonder if that includes models.
16:05:29 <GO GOGGLE> CAPS are winning so it's a GO
16:07:12 <Kevin L™🌵> If that was the Knights it would have gone above the bar.
16:07:26 <GO GOGGLE> 2-0, sweet
16:16:04 <ynpvisitor21> Time to put more wood on the fire.
16:17:02 <Kevin L™🌵> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWpYQjuJ0u0
16:18:10 <Kevin L™🌵> Daisy?
16:40:13 <GO GOGGLE> i looked away and now its 4-0 .... getting better
16:46:26 <Kevin L™🌵> 5-0 now
16:50:55 <GO GOGGLE> are you getting on the CAPS bandwagon now Kevin?
16:51:52 <ynpvisitor15> Boo
16:52:10 <Kevin L™🌵> No, just watching them until the Knights game starts. Probably lose toknight. Playing the Flames.
17:38:37 <Kevin L™🌵> I hope Graham isn't watching this.
17:39:21 <Kevin L™🌵> Not easy to blow a 5-0 lead.
17:49:28 <Sam - phone> Anyone else’s cam down?
17:49:50 <ynpvisitor66> yes. At best it's intermittent.
17:50:30 <Sam - phone> Ok. Any of report?
17:50:32 <Kevin L™🌵> Shows down on the status bar
17:51:03 <ynpvisitor66> Don
17:51:05 <Sam - phone> Or did we miss it cause of the wonky cam!
17:51:16 <Sam - phone> ?*
17:51:23 <ynpvisitor66> don't know. I wasn't really watching.
17:52:16 <Sam - phone> Eh. Thought I saw the tail end of it a while ago, but wasn’t sure. Oh well
18:07:05 <Kevin L™🌵> Cam is back
21:23:14 <Kevin L™🌵> It was a good Knight