Showing logs for date: 2019-04-28
22:04:57 <ynpvisitor90> :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
22:07:41 <ynpvisitor51> Yeah 90 This stinks. Hopefully the cam will be back up soon
22:13:00 <ynpvisitor93> Zzz
02:47:54 <ynpvisitor14> Roses are red
02:48:01 <ynpvisitor14> Olives are black
02:48:06 <ynpvisitor14> boy do I wish
02:48:12 <ynpvisitor14> we had the cam back
04:43:21 <CraigC> snow
04:55:39 <lori lurking> is there a way to make another view the main view?
04:57:03 <CraigC> I don't know
04:57:09 <CraigC> hey Lori
05:00:56 <lori lurking> good morning, well, maybe just hey, it is morning, not as good with no streaming.
05:02:26 <CraigC> :thumbsup:
05:06:25 <LindaG> Good morning
05:06:55 <CraigC> hey Linda
05:06:58 <LindaG> Oh wow it did snow
05:07:11 <LindaG> CraigC, hi
05:07:36 <LindaG> They are aware there is a problem with cam
05:09:14 <LindaG> Its snowing at lake
05:11:35 <CraigC> who are "they"? VEC?
05:11:50 <ynpvisitor70> Lori you can make the Static cams the main view, theres a button for it in the settings pannel
05:12:48 <CraigC> cool, thanks
05:13:27 <KittyM*> Morning all. 70, thanks for that! I learn something every day. I just changed mine.
05:14:58 <ynpvisitor46> I notified the VEC yesterday morning, they in turn notified those responsible for the cam in the park
05:15:25 <LindaG> CraigC, The people that maintain the cam and will eventually fix it. Although I'm sure VEC knows about it.
05:15:58 <CraigC> :thumbsup:
05:16:51 <CraigC> hey Joe, how you feeling?
05:17:13 <Joe> Deathly?
05:17:21 <CraigC> :(
05:18:08 <lori lurking> thanks, changed mine. does it always cycle through, or can you default to one cam that way?
05:19:42 <LindaG> Joe, sorry you still feel lousy, it will get better
05:21:03 <Joe> Just press the cycle button on the static cam panel to stop the cycling, Lori
05:28:55 <ynpvisitor70> Lori you can turn cams off individually too if you only want to see a couple of yhem
05:31:54 <CraigC> wolf walking a man;
05:35:26 <lori lurking> ok, how do I shut off individual cams? I assume I can't show all at once on the main?
05:36:30 <Joe> Point at the static image you will see on/off buttons
05:37:15 <lori lurking> ok?
05:38:00 <Joe> Select a cam you do not want point and turn off
05:40:30 <lori lurking> I think I got it, thanks!
05:40:51 <Joe> yw
06:08:45 <ynpvisitor87> Ick, snow in the basin
06:25:39 <Joe> of 0823
06:30:15 <LindaG> 👍
06:33:41 <LindaG> Of now?
06:34:44 <Joe> yes deleted my other saw people still waiting
06:34:44 <LindaG> Joe, OF now?
06:34:55 <LindaG> Ah ok
06:36:46 <LindaG> I wonder if BH went, looks like snow is melted over there
08:14:17 <ynpvisitor106> Damn, still no cam
08:19:12 <Sam - laptop> Kevin was on last night and said if the issue can't be fixed by an employee, it'll be down for a week as the cam guy is unavailable this week.
08:27:41 <Betty> Hi all. Seems I did not miss much
09:05:21 <Sam> A couple of really short Daisy intervals?
09:07:51 <Joe> I think once they get together and reread the graphs they will change those on Daisy
09:10:00 <Joe> There are other things that put water in the runoff chanel and at times the graphs have many spikes.
09:11:25 <ynpvisitor77> 70 m is Splendid territory
09:24:22 <ynpvisitor87> Wow, I wonder if one of those Daisy times is actually Grand
09:24:58 <ynpvisitor77> Those are E times from the bluetooth logger
09:25:35 <ynpvisitor87> They get messed up being entered sometimes
09:25:52 <ynpvisitor87> It has happened many times before
09:26:12 <ynpvisitor87> The midnight Grand time is missing
09:27:33 <Joe> The 2324 was probably Grand miss entered as Daisy which would make the 0032 daisy 2h 20min interval which looks correct
09:27:39 <ynpvisitor14> If the 2324 was a Grand then the interval for Daisy would come out right.
09:27:46 <ynpvisitor87> The Rangers pick the wrong Geyser while entering the times. We ended up with a sub 5 hour Grand twice that way
09:28:05 <ynpvisitor14> How are you doing today Joe?
09:28:28 <Joe> Slow, feel dead :)
09:28:45 <ynpvisitor87> I’ll call later and ask. Just for now, take caution
09:28:59 <ynpvisitor87> You’re not dead Joe!!
09:29:05 <ynpvisitor14> Hope you pick up soon.
09:29:20 <Joe> Thanks
09:30:32 <ynpvisitor87> Did they give you that breathing tool at the hospital to bring home ?
09:30:58 <ynpvisitor87> Where you have to make the ball rise?
09:31:22 <Joe> Yes and it is helping to clear the lungs
09:31:41 <Joe> 2000
09:31:57 <ynpvisitor87> Good! I was going to say do that no matter how tired it makes you
09:33:33 <Joe> When I entered the hospital my oxygen was 55% temp was 106
09:33:55 <ynpvisitor87> Wow you are lucky to be alive
09:33:58 <ynpvisitor14> Wow. Could have fried eggs on you!
09:34:11 <Joe> I felt really really bad
09:34:29 <ynpvisitor14> I bet.
09:42:57 <ynpvisitor98> Of?
09:43:11 <Joe> yep
09:43:42 <Joe> Hi Betty
09:44:00 <Betty> How are you doing Joe? Any better?
09:44:59 <Joe> not much yet, I hope the next few days will show some improvement
09:46:01 <Betty> I ended up in Hospital too. I had bad dizziness since friday
09:46:38 <Joe> I'm sorry, have they found why?
09:46:41 <ynpvisitor14> Not been a good week for chatpage people.
09:47:21 <Betty> It is a Bit better today, i hope they can find out tomorrow
09:48:44 <Betty> They think it is labyrinthitis
09:49:45 <Betty> Sorry to hear you don‘t feel better, Joe
09:50:42 <Betty> The cam is down too?
09:50:48 <Joe> I hope you improve Betty
09:51:02 <ynpvisitor14> Cam is sick too.
09:51:07 <Betty> Yes, hopefully
09:51:09 <Joe> Yes since 2am Sat morning
09:51:22 <Betty> Bah
09:52:03 <Betty> It is missing you, joe 😀
09:52:57 <Joe> :)
09:54:09 <Joe> I was watching for Old Faithful and the cam went downthat morning
09:54:25 <Joe> down that
09:57:52 <Joe> The cam was left on OF, I was waiting for the next eruption then was going to change to down basin night view, never got the chance:(
10:01:11 <Betty> Did you see ledge had a major?
10:02:39 <Betty> Could be a fun year at Norris
10:02:56 <Joe> Nice bbev report
10:05:07 <ynpvisitor70> People standing g by bee
10:06:14 <LindaG> Hi betty
10:06:26 <Betty> Hi LindaG
10:07:03 <Betty> I‘m really excited about Ledge
10:07:51 <LindaG> I dont know anything about it. Is that rare?
10:08:34 <Betty> Yes
10:10:03 <Betty> It was active in 2015
10:11:14 <LindaG> Ah so it's been a while I'll have to look it up. Hopefully it coudlnt be viewed on webcam or that would really be depressing
10:11:26 <Betty> Before that there were intervals of about 1 to 7 years
10:11:31 <ynpvisitor999®> afternoon
10:11:35 <ynpvisitor999®> evening BEtty
10:11:38 <LindaG> ynpvisitor999®, hi
10:11:54 <Betty> Evening Jarno
10:12:19 <Joe> Linda, Ledge is in Norris
10:12:22 <Betty> Ledge is in Norris
10:12:52 <LindaG> OK I just googled it I was going to read about it
10:12:58 <LindaG> Thx
10:13:54 <ynpvisitor77> Linda, Ledge was active in 70's and 94/94. then main vent was buried. New Ledge reactivated 2015 after sporadic rare reuptions since the 90's. Main vent is still buried
10:14:05 <ynpvisitor77> 94/95
10:14:05 <ynpvisitor999®> I wonder if Black Growler being very active during the disturbance, as well as Jetsam's spouter on its edge, were a prelude to new Ledge activity
10:15:10 <ynpvisitor999®> Cistern already in overflow :D
10:15:29 <ynpvisitor77> We don't know if Black Growler is dusturbance related or already active pre D
10:15:38 <Betty> Yeah fun
10:15:42 <LindaG> ynpvisitor77, that is interesting. So a new vent was created.
10:16:19 <ynpvisitor77> no Ledge has several vents
10:16:39 <LindaG> Oh ok
10:16:42 <LindaG> Thx
10:21:59 <LindaG> Cool, I watched a ledge video from 2015
10:22:15 <ynpvisitor999®> unfortunately (or fortunately, if you will) Ledge doesn't show up on YNM and YNR
10:24:55 <Betty> Enjoy the rest of your sunday, I‘m out. Everybody sick, get better soon!
10:25:07 <ynpvisitor999®> cya Betty
10:25:24 <ynpvisitor14> Night Betty
10:30:18 <LindaG> Bye betty
10:46:09 <Ben VL> Glad to see Cistern full so fast
10:46:28 <Ben VL> And I did not expect Ledge, that's for sure
10:49:05 <ynpvisitor999®> I didn't either, nice surprise. I guess the 2019 season is all about Norris now :)
10:49:44 <ynpvisitor999®> if only Echinus would show up, that'd be nice
10:51:43 <Ben VL> Since it probably doesen't show up on YNM, this might not be the first Ledge this year. I wonder if the disturbance had anything to do with it, but it's possible it coild have reactivated over the winter
10:55:31 <CraigC> 19 minute interval on Lion
10:55:59 <Ben VL> We
10:56:21 <GO NORRIS> given all the guide visits to Norris over the winter, this might be the first ledge eruption
10:57:11 <Ben VL> We're like two geysers away from seeing all the (recently active) big geysers erupt in the same year
10:57:22 <GO NORRIS> it stays in steam phase for a day, so guides should have seen it
10:57:52 <GO NORRIS> which 2?
10:58:01 <Ben VL> Ah I see. I have not done all that much research on Ledge
10:58:09 <Ben VL> Giantess and Splendid
10:58:43 <GO NORRIS> ah, i wondered what your definition of recently active was :)
10:59:13 <GO NORRIS> goes back 22 years .. and Micah sees it splashing more - shorter Daisy intervals could be good for it
10:59:21 <CraigC> not Excelsior???
10:59:26 <Ben VL> Well, under that definition, I suppose Twin might count as well. Didn't it erupt in the 90's?
10:59:44 <GO NORRIS> yes it did, 1998 I think
11:00:01 <GO NORRIS> it looked hopeless this winter thjo
11:00:58 <Ben VL> Fine with me... If Giant stays active along with Morning, we'll be all over the place
11:01:20 <Ben VL> I don't need a reason to visit W Thumb this summer
11:01:42 <GO NORRIS> Ledge Spring was active this winter .. so there is a geyser there
11:04:37 <Ben VL> True, but that's for another time for me
11:07:48 <GO NORRIS> in 2015 the Ledge intervals were mostly 4-7 days with the shortest just under 3days and longest almot 8d
11:09:32 <Ben VL> Sort of similar to SB
11:10:28 <ynpvisitor999®> What's supposedly could be the '1964 Vent'? I've got one in the OFVCL-EV 1993 on the first of July
11:10:34 <GO NORRIS> was judged by how full the pressure pool was in the fall .... if low then not ready today...if high then stick around for a dwy or two
11:15:06 <GO NORRIS> so now its 14 9 9 2 1, have to add Ledge to the list .... also Grand may have had 5 eruptions yesterday ... s omay go up to 10
11:15:55 <ynpvisitor77> This could be the first Ledge since the park opened and not the first of any new period of activity.
11:16:32 <ynpvisitor77> 90's intervals were much longer. 70's it was predictable and sometimes less than a day
11:16:32 <GO NORRIS> no, 13 9 9 2 1
11:16:37 <Ben VL> We'll have to see what happens.
11:17:31 <GO NORRIS> true 77, could have erupted in the closed period
11:18:03 <ynpvisitor77> To me it seems clear that one of those Daisy shorts is a Grand mis enterred by the VEC.
11:18:29 <GO NORRIS> i would guess it was after the disturbance started tho
11:18:44 <Ben VL> That's SB, Giant, 5 Grand, Morning, and Ledge?
11:18:57 <ynpvisitor77> we havent seen 68 /70 min I since Splendid was active
11:18:58 <GO NORRIS> yes Ben
11:19:15 <ynpvisitor77> I believe a D killed Ledge in 2015?
11:19:57 <ynpvisitor999®> That's what's in The Geysers of Yellowstone at least
11:20:17 <Ben VL> I heard from someone a while back that Daisy was on four-hour intervals last time Splendid woke up
11:20:22 <GO NORRIS> if VEC moves the 2324 Daisy to be Grand then it would have been 5 Grands yesterday or the day before
11:22:13 <ynpvisitor77> The 2324 eruption was flagged
11:22:35 <ynpvisitor77> No with Splendid you get very short Daisy intervals
11:23:34 <GO NORRIS> when in a Splendid series the intervals were all over the place though depending on how many SPlendid eruptions happened between Daisy eruptions
11:23:39 <ynpvisitor77> And prior to full activation Daisy was having 90 min Intervals and very occasional
11:24:06 <ynpvisitor77> Splendid short eruptions
11:24:13 <GO NORRIS> ok 77, i thought it was 105m
11:24:30 <ynpvisitor77> might have been in that range
11:25:00 <ynpvisitor77> Certainy not the 2.5-3 hrs we've been seeing
11:25:57 <GO NORRIS> there was a 2h1m and 2h5m interval yesterday
11:25:59 <Ben VL> Okay, so that was wrong then. Good to know
11:26:16 <GO NORRIS> it happens Ben :)
11:27:27 <ynpvisitor77> It does seem to be running a we bit shorter the last few weeks
11:27:31 <ynpvisitor999®> Yesterday Daisy did have a 2h01m interval. May go below 2h this season
11:28:15 <ynpvisitor77> Daisy intervals were short during the 80's activity as well
11:30:28 <GO NORRIS> if Splendid is active I iwll be there a lot..with a detour to SB from time to time :)
11:31:07 <ynpvisitor77> Yes to Splendid. Almost as rare as SB
11:32:03 <GO NORRIS> more rare in terms of active years, but when it was active it was easier to see as it erupted in series
11:34:46 <Ben VL> I would kind of be the opposite. I'd only be there if I knew there wasn't a chance of missing SB
11:35:16 <ynpvisitor77> thats what I meant. active years. it was easy to catch during series.
11:38:58 <GO NORRIS> i have only seen SPlendid in one year, SB in 3 although starts only one year
11:39:53 <Ben VL> I have seen neither from the start
11:41:07 <Ben VL> But I have only recently been able to start gazing
11:41:57 <GO NORRIS> will you be in the oark this summer?
11:44:38 <Ben VL> As much as I can. I recently bought a more reliable car, so that will help.
11:45:28 <Ben VL> It's a '08 Odyssey, so the plan is to camp in it.
11:46:15 <Ben VL> And park it at Norris overnight when needed
11:49:08 <GO NORRIS> could we have a SB eruption followed by a Ledge eruption the same day ... like SB and Giant ....
11:50:27 <GO NORRIS> good luck with SB. Lets see if Ledge is a one-off because of the disturbance or the start of an active phase
11:50:31 <ynpvisitor999®> at least Ledge is nearer to SB...
11:52:26 <ynpvisitor77> another big geyser at Norris that gives little to no warning that it will erupt and that you can't leave.
11:53:50 <GO NORRIS> at least in 2015 the pressure pool level was a pretty good indicator of whether to stay or not and that splashing out of the Red vent did increase the closer you got .... at least for the ones I saw.
11:54:12 <GO NORRIS> but yes, you have to stay once its looking possible
11:55:16 <Ben VL> Thank goodness for radios
11:58:20 <GO NORRIS> Ledge water durations were 1 to 2h so you have time to get over from SB
11:58:42 <Ben VL> Yeah.
11:59:50 <GO NORRIS> then its in steam phase for the rest of the day
12:00:09 <GO NORRIS> that is if it keeps the same pattern
12:00:56 <GO NORRIS> 80s and 70s had much shorter durationsper GT, but then it had the other vent going too
12:01:22 <Ben VL> How tall is it, now?
12:01:45 <GO NORRIS> i dont do heights
12:02:23 <GO NORRIS> its big and enjoyable
12:02:23 <Ben VL> Ah
12:07:39 <ynpvisitor999®> According to the Geysers of Yellowstone, Ledge's Red Vent reached "as high as 70 feet with a slight angle to the north" during 2015, while White emitted roaring steam and Pressure Pool splashed
12:09:34 <ynpvisitor999®> assuming this eruption followed about the same pattern as in 2015, the height was up to 70 feet during the water phase
12:14:59 <Ben VL> Oh, that's higher than I thought.
12:15:33 <GO NORRIS> nice long Lion series, 6 majors, 1 minor
12:19:31 <GO NORRIS> was anyone able to check for BH 1942? on static last night?
12:19:44 <GO NORRIS> guess i could look....
12:22:02 <GO NORRIS> yep, 1942ie on static
12:22:51 <GO NORRIS> so 1938ie with time correctlon
12:27:38 <GO NORRIS> 10h31m interval or less
12:27:45 <GO NORRIS> maybe 2 minutes earlier
12:28:30 <GO NORRIS> bhi
12:28:43 <GO NORRIS> 1428ie
12:31:40 <GO NORRIS> maybe the text will help someone in the park
12:31:51 <GO NORRIS> or an edge of static cam watcher :)
12:32:10 <GO NORRIS> not much excitement there tho
12:33:38 <GO NORRIS> maybe VEC will see it too, looks like theres someone on the BW waiting
12:34:59 <GO NORRIS> this wil be a more normal 19h
12:36:04 <ynpvisitor999®> :bee:
12:36:36 <GO NORRIS> yep
12:43:23 <GO NORRIS> we now return to our regular lack of programming
12:45:30 <ynpvisitor86> odd there is no in basin time for BH
12:47:01 <GO NORRIS> cold and windy day, who knows. Micah was in West. beverleys may be doing move-in prep or touring. Polly had been watching Lion, not sure what she did after Lion
12:48:48 <GO NORRIS> not sure who else is around, a couple of other posts in UGB...maybe peeps were down basin or car gazing somewhere
12:56:38 <ynpvisitor86> thought cb and Bill were there, they posted Flood a while ago
12:56:57 <ynpvisitor86> you cannot travel beyond OF right now
12:58:07 <GO NORRIS> of
12:58:55 <GO NORRIS> oh really, down basin closed due to bears? what about Geyser Hill, lookes like someone ws there at BH
13:08:08 <ynpvisitor59> Go Ledge!!!
13:08:54 <GO NORRIS> :thumbsup:
13:11:16 <Ben VL> Well, if down basin is closed then that explains the sparce GT
13:11:48 <GO NORRIS> 86 didnt elaborate
13:15:15 <GO NORRIS> uhoh Dave isnt happy, canes scored 2 in less than a minute
13:23:21 <ynpvisitor21> In addition to all the fun at Norris it sounds like Splendid may be waking up after yesterday’s reports.
13:23:39 <ynpvisitor21> But could be wishful thinking
13:25:09 <GO NORRIS> well the boil and shorer Daisy intervals are good, but it may need a lot more to really wake up.
13:25:21 <GO NORRIS> shorter
13:30:03 <ynpvisitor77> no short Daisys now. short interval has been deleted. entry error
13:30:43 <GO NORRIS> still have the 2h1m interval, that was short
13:32:12 <ynpvisitor77> but not 68 min
13:32:18 <ynpvisitor77> thats short
13:35:44 <GO NORRIS> it didnt get converted into a Grand time tho
13:37:22 <ynpvisitor77> it wasnt a Grand according to R
13:38:21 <GO NORRIS> ok, thanks
13:38:41 <GO NORRIS> would be interested to see the Grand electronics overnight too
13:41:17 <ynpvisitor77> me too
13:42:34 <ynpvisitor77> for everyday
13:43:03 <GO NORRIS> maybe we can get Micah to enter tham as the GOSA liaison :)
13:43:27 <ynpvisitor77> its an idea but I bet he's gonna be very busy
15:01:06 <ynpvisitor27> Well that answers that question.
15:07:24 <GO NORRIS> a Pink Cone entry ... hummmmmm
15:08:11 <GO NORRIS> I see Polly logged the next Lion and Depression ...... she must have been taking a break when BH went
15:14:12 <ynpvisitor45> Pink Cone? From the road? Definite hmmmm. And if they were back there illegally, this could be reported. FLD is a bear closure area.
15:15:05 <GO NORRIS> i know. not sure if it can be seen from the road, I am thinking it might be White Dome
15:19:44 <GO NORRIS> they put in 3 entries for it, so may have been playing with the app too
15:27:12 <ynpvisitor45> I see the 3 entries now. Hopefully they will delete it.
15:27:41 <ynpvisitor45> Or change to White Dome if they made a mistake
15:28:15 <ynpvisitor110> All 3 are 1540 ie
15:28:26 <ChrisO> Cam been down all day?
15:28:46 <ynpvisitor86> all weekend ChrisO,
15:29:37 <ynpvisitor45> Too many people hike FLD when it is closed.
15:33:25 <GO NORRIS> Maureen got Ftn, yeah
15:33:42 <ynpvisitor110> Nice!
15:37:01 <GO NORRIS> Aurum?
15:50:52 <ChrisO> all the snow melted today at the VEC? It was snow covered when i looked this morningt
15:58:26 <ynpvisitor45> It was just a skiff of new snow
15:59:39 <ynpvisitor110> Chris, here is a link to the first whistle blow of the Big Boy. Sort of reminds me of a juvenile rooster learning how to crow.
16:03:34 <LindaG> I thought the whistle would be higher pitch
16:05:39 <ynpvisitor110> The big ones usually have a very loud lower pitch. Now this one has a great sound but the trip did not end well:
16:07:37 <LindaG> Yeah that's a better sound, or at least what I expect
16:11:40 <GO NORRIS> of
16:12:10 <GO NORRIS> Polly logged Grand
17:00:53 <ynpvisitor81> Dark early in the park today
17:27:37 <Sam - laptop> Fingers crossed the cam can go back online tomorrow
17:48:00 <Sam - laptop> OF ie