Showing logs for date: 2019-08-20
05:15:59 <Rice> I see Steamboat logger, That is nice...
05:37:36 <ynpvisitor3> no shakes on the seismo tho
06:09:07 <Cooper> No SB?
06:54:26 <Kat> Joe, I'm going take the cam if you're ready :)
06:54:44 <Joe1> It is yours
06:55:33 <Kat> Thanks - I hope there's some improvement when they change servers today
06:56:44 <Joe1> I hope, but not counting on anything.
07:11:11 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone! This is the first I'm hearing about a new server.
07:11:53 <Joe1> Hi Dave, we first heard about it yesterday
07:12:16 <Joe1> It is Pixelcaster changing servers
07:12:35 <Joe1> How was the massage?
07:15:09 <Dave from B™> It was nice...not something I would do often but maybe more often than every 56 years:)
07:18:31 <Joe1> OF was 0708 static
07:19:14 <ynpvisitor96> I see we are still standing by for Steamboat.
07:19:55 <Kat> Thanks Joe
07:21:00 <Joe1> Just noticed when the NPS prediction came up, then went hunting :)
07:23:04 <Kat> :)
07:51:11 <Kevin L™🌵> I found something for you Dave:
07:52:08 <Kat> Nice Kevin! Someone actually gave these to me after my deer hit!
07:57:21 <Teri> gm all; SB today?
07:58:33 <Kat> I think today!
07:58:48 <Dave from B™> Or Tomorrow but I'm thinking today
07:58:54 <Teri> been busy on house projects, but managed to grab an OF lodge cancellation for the 3rd weekend in Sept, so coming to the Park, 9/20-23; added first night in West (One Horse Motel)
07:59:33 <Kevin L™🌵> You need to run down there Dave.
07:59:57 <Dave from B™> TRying to get work done so I can get Becca to school this weekend
08:00:12 <Dave from B™> Deer Whistles...another useless tool
08:00:38 <Dave from B™> Just move the Deer Crossing signs and we'll all be good
08:00:45 <Kevin L™🌵> Makes you feel like you tried.
08:00:54 <Teri> sounds like Artemisia is getting ready
08:01:34 <Kat> :)
08:04:08 <Kevin L™🌵> Ready to be toast today Mike?
08:04:31 <Mike J> Toast and a half, Kevin. Assume you guys are putting up with the same thing.
08:04:50 <Kevin L™🌵> Yep. I feel bad for Betty.
08:05:05 <Mike J> Hunker down in doors and try not to go outside. The southwest's version of a blizzard.
08:05:37 <Mike J> Have they been going through another heat wave in Betty's neck of the woods?
08:06:10 <Kevin L™🌵> She is headed to Death Valley today and there is a suspicious package at Creech AFB so they closed US 95 at Indian Springs. :P
08:06:48 <Mike J> i didn't realize she was here. And, yikes!!!
08:07:22 <Kevin L™🌵> Not a whole lot of places to wait it out in Indian Springs.
08:07:28 <Teri> Betty's already stateside?; too bad about the closure, I hope they get it cleared soon
08:07:43 <Mike J> Of subject, but a couple of years ago I got to see the super bloom at Death Valley. It was amazing.
08:08:15 <Kevin L™🌵> They are beautiful. Haven't had one here for a long time.
08:09:24 <Teri> haven't been there since the 60s; drove through in the summer (125deg) went back for a few days the following spring; an amazing place
08:09:57 <Teri> I thought gas was way overpriced at .45/gal; .27 outside of the park, lol
08:10:58 <Kevin L™🌵> I used to patrol US 95 at NDOT. We got some pretty nice show some years.
08:11:59 <Teri> cool; highway reopened at 6:30am
08:12:20 <Kevin L™🌵> Nice to hear.
08:12:25 <Teri>
08:13:00 <Kevin L™🌵> Creech is a fun place. That is where they developed the drones.
08:15:30 <Teri> nice; I did the drive through the Air Force Academy when I was in Colorado Springs
08:18:21 <Kevin L™🌵> When we were doing some surveying near Creech they were dropping 2000lb bombs. They would shake the insturments on the road.
08:20:24 <Teri> wow; maybe I bought lodging a day too soon (?); Xanterra shows OF lodge double w/bath available 9/17-9/20; fyi
08:27:04 <GO STEAMBOAT> there was a superbloom in 2016, not a huge one but nice when I saw it in March
08:27:43 <GO STEAMBOAT> i guess we are at the 30 day point ... so cancelations coming in for late Sept
08:30:05 <Teri> used to be the park would empty out after Labor Day, not so much anymore
08:33:31 <Kat> People off boardwalk!
08:33:51 <Teri> no kidding !?
08:34:18 <Dave from B™> Is anyone able to call LE?
08:34:21 <Lori S> Kat, That guy the other day got away. Let's get these guys!
08:34:24 <Joe1> I just spoke with a reservation agent at Yellowstone, they told me they have not put any new cabins in and over 20 years, I was wondering what those new ones were that they just put in a couple years ago but again they told me they have not put any in in the past 20 years, ???hmmmm
08:34:45 <Dave from B™> Joe, they were employee housing
08:34:46 <Lori S> Dave from B™, I will but what is #?
08:35:16 <Kat> calling now
08:35:50 <Teri> ban them
08:36:34 <Joe1> I called LE yesterday they told me they were researchers, maybe same today
08:37:09 <Lori S> LE just said probably researchers
08:37:18 <Lori S> Comm center..
08:37:36 <Kat> I just called....they are checking it out. They usually let us know if there's researchers out there.
08:39:08 <Lori S> Kat, They asked me for a clothing description. Ha. I think it should be confirmed it's researhcers, not assumed.
08:39:40 <Lori S> But I see orange now
08:40:28 <Kat> I saw a blue bag and an orange, they are going to check. You would think that they wold know.
08:41:20 <Lori S> Yeah, she seemed confident they were, but I still think it should get checked. Maybe we need to get the researchers on chat. :)
08:41:32 <Kat> They also asked if they were men or women? Like I could see that! LOL
08:42:23 <Lori S> Kat, IKR. I wanted to say, hang on, let me ask them to zoom in real tight.
08:42:32 <Kat> Camops normally get a heads up. I understand their work but it signals others that it may be OK.
08:43:14 <Lori S> Yes, agreed. Those on the boardwalk can probably tell but the greater internet can't.
08:44:14 <Lori S> I'll tell ya, though, I wouldn't want their job...researhers. Heading off boardwalk especially there isn't my idea of fun!
08:45:18 <Lori S> Meanwhile, SB has 2 hrs and 45 min before my prediction wondow closes. :/
08:45:24 <Lori S> window
08:48:16 <Dave from B™> closes...already? I thought you said it wasn't going yesterday. How small a window did you have?
08:48:52 <Lori S> 0530 today plus or minus 6 hours
08:49:17 <Lori S> Based on the surge then lull at 1712 on Sunday
08:50:08 <Cooper> In School
08:50:13 <Lori S> Howdy Cooper
08:50:13 <Cooper> in my TA Class
08:50:21 <Cooper> G'mornin Lori
08:50:43 <Lori S> Cooper, my window is closing soon.
08:51:06 <Lori S> Not that I've ever guessed one correctly. LOL
08:51:18 <Cooper> My prediction time is nearing 1200
08:51:52 <Teri> any Norris news? no updates on GT yet
08:51:54 <Lori S> You have a better chance, I think. :)
08:52:22 <Lori S> Teri, Craig C is there but I'd guess he has no plans to leave anytime soon.
08:52:36 <Teri> nice light on OF!
08:52:39 <Lori S> Pretty OF
08:53:02 <Teri> tks Lori; guess will get the news post-eruption
08:55:24 <Kat> Must be researchers - still out there!
08:55:53 <Kat> Grand ie
08:56:06 <Lori S> <<<<<< ?
08:56:25 <Lori S> :thumbsup: Thx!
08:56:30 <Cooper> 0850 Grand
08:57:15 <Dave from B™> I'm trying to talk Becca and Michelle into going to SB tomorrow if it is still "due"
08:57:41 <Cooper> I think it will go today tho
08:57:52 <Lori S> Dave from B™, I'd say your chances would be good if it still hasn't gone by then. But what do I know?
08:58:02 <ynpvisitor37> I'm mostly worried that it'll pull what it did last summer after the disturbance and have huge minors for a week before erupting
08:58:23 <Cooper> That would be sad.:(
08:58:28 <ynpvisitor37> But the Cistern refill was shorter than those on last summer's intervals
08:58:30 <Kat> I'd go!
08:58:43 <Lori S> ynpvisitor37, quite possible. I am suprised it seems "ready" right now cuz I figured it would be a while longer too.
08:58:44 <ynpvisitor37> 2 1/2 days versus 3 to 4 1/2 days
08:59:02 <Lori S> ynpvisitor37, :thumbsup:
08:59:40 <Lori S> Cooper, Cistern refill rate. Seems Like I heard someone is tracking that in a spreadsheet. :)
09:03:28 <Teri> nice day for SB
09:04:23 <Teri> looks like William is still at Artemisia; surprised that he can post from there (?)
09:05:23 <Teri> traffic stacking up at West
09:06:08 <Cooper> Hi Jake
09:07:12 <Kat> :daisy:
09:07:25 <Lori S> Teri, 9-11 is usually the worst
09:09:34 <Teri> nice Daisy; wow, no wind at all
09:10:11 <Lori S> Yes, loverly :daisy: and light
09:10:24 <Kat> :)
09:12:55 <Cooper> Time for me to head to my next class.
09:13:00 <Cooper> See you all later
09:13:59 <Kat> Cam is up - not Chat
09:17:08 <Kat> Does anyone else have an X
09:17:13 <ynpvisitor84> Me
09:17:59 <Lori S> I have the circle over down basin
09:18:08 <Dave from B™> Will server change knock us down for awhile today?
09:18:16 <Lori S> And now the X cuz I refreshed
09:18:26 <Lori S> bonk
09:19:01 <Lori S> Hi lori lurking
09:19:11 <lori lurking> Hi Lori :D
09:19:18 <Dave from B™> Must be IA Lori
09:19:26 <Lori S> :thumbsup:
09:19:31 <lori lurking> yep!
09:19:33 <Kat> I think so - should happen around 11A MT
09:20:07 <Lori S> Right when SB should erupt ;)
09:20:21 <Kat> I'm watching Geyser Hill on cam = sorry!
09:20:24 <lori lurking> so, tips and tricks for Steamboat crud removal? We are thinking of getting a cover. Optimistic, I know!
09:21:04 <Kat> LOL
09:21:04 <Lori S> lori lurking, we found that just buffing the glass with a fluffy towel worked. But then we didn't care about the paint.
09:21:15 <Dave from B™> Park on the main loop road towards Canyon and you should be fine. Bike or walk from there
09:21:28 <lori lurking> Todd got the windows pretty good last time after we got home, with CLR and lots of elbow grease, I believe.
09:21:42 <lori lurking> Dave, we get hangry and go to the car for lunch!
09:21:59 <Lori S> Yes, by "buffing," I mean rubbing until your arm is sore.
09:22:05 <Kat> I totally covered my car! Parked in the lot.
09:22:24 <Master Po> Wax on, wax off>(
09:23:07 <Lori S> First time I drove to the Chocolate Pots and got out the water and paper towels and did OK. Secong time it was dark, I was parked by the walk entry (it was ie) and the buffing worked the next day.
09:24:01 <Lori S> Master Po, :thumbsup:
09:24:15 <GO STEAMBOAT> just go when Dave is there and you wont need a cover
09:24:36 <Kat> :lol:
09:25:28 <lori lurking> well, I would love to share Steamboat with Dave, even if we get slimed again!
09:26:44 <GO STEAMBOAT> looks like a nice day for an eruption
09:26:46 <lori lurking> It will require Steamboat to continue...
09:26:54 <Joe1> I think they are changing servers now control screen working but stream has been down for a bit
09:27:50 <lori lurking> Todd offered to run a line to the cam if they need him to while we are there :D
09:27:50 <Kat> I agree Joe - they said 11 but maybe started early!
09:28:06 <Joe1> Control stream does not go through Pixelcaster
09:28:25 <Joe1> My email said 9 MT
09:28:32 <GO STEAMBOAT> must be time for Giantess?
09:28:42 <Kat> Noooooo!
09:28:51 <Kat> The cam just stopped too!
09:29:17 <Kat> You are right - I was thinking 11 because thats what time it is here! LOL
09:29:43 <Joe1> Control stream back
09:30:03 <Kat> yep
09:31:33 <Lori S> Still waiting to hear from Canon USA pr. No update sicen I was told it was handed over to them. And still no free t-short. :)
09:31:49 <Lori S> t-shirt
09:33:48 <GO STEAMBOAT> where is the traffic at W gate?
09:36:06 <lori lurking> at the north gate?
09:36:48 <Kat> The order for the new radio is in process. Shouldn't be too much longer.
09:37:18 <Dave from B™> Lori, so Canon is involved in the process now?
09:42:58 <Kat> Angle changed in Mammoth static
09:45:53 <Kat> back up!
09:46:37 <Lori S> Dave from B™, I sent them a Contact Us form a while back. Got 2 emails back that it had been escalated, then further escalated to PR
09:46:40 <Master Po> :i:
09:47:22 <Lori S> Haha. Down we go.
09:47:29 <Kat> :thumbsdown:
09:48:31 <Dave from B™> Lori, maybe you were the final push we needed:)
09:49:20 <Lori S> Dave from B™, like little ol me made a smidge of difference. Coincidence I'm sure :p
09:53:18 <Kat> Doesn't appear a server change is going to make much difference.
09:53:45 <Dave from B™> Never underestimate your power, Lori S!
09:54:36 <Lori S> Well, OK then, GO STEAMBOAT!
09:54:50 <Lori S> :p
09:54:51 <Kat> :)
09:56:04 <Dave from B™> There ya go...always taking it ONE step too far!:)
09:56:19 <Dave from B™> Never abuse your powers, Lori S:)
10:00:33 <Kat> Kevin - I'm out if you're ready!
10:01:19 <Master Po> OK, so how did Abuse Geyser get its name?
10:04:58 <Kevin L™🌵> Cam takes a bit longer than you do!
10:06:55 <Kat> Says Abuse Spring got it's name due to the large amount of debris thrown into the crater by early park concession employees.
10:07:24 <Kat> I know what you mean Kevin! Have good afternoon!
10:07:46 <Master Po> What a distinction.
10:07:52 <Master Po> Thanks Kat
10:10:56 <Kat> No problem - just referred to TSB book
10:12:01 <Kevin L™🌵> Loei S, I don't think the new radio will involve Canon at all, The Canon equipment appears to be working, it is a like to the server that is the issue.
10:14:15 <Lori S> Kevin L™🌵, :thumbsup:
10:14:26 <Lori S> I was afk there for a bit
10:15:09 <Lori S> Kevin L™🌵, way to squash my delusions of grandeur btw. :p
10:48:30 <Kat> Kevin - can you get into the cam?
10:50:02 <Kevin L™🌵> yes
10:50:19 <Kevin L™🌵> Took about 4 tries.
11:33:03 <Cooper> I have 5 mins before lunch
11:33:31 <Cooper> ok SB, you are messing with me, go already
11:38:09 <Cooper> and time to go
11:44:33 <ynpvisitor77> wonder if steamboat will wait another week . ! ?
12:59:48 <Kevin L™🌵> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
13:07:24 <ynpvisitor13> looks like SB
13:08:19 <ynpvisitor13> maybe 1253
13:08:25 <Kevin L™🌵> Aurum on stuck
13:10:38 <Kevin L™🌵> Looks like SB
13:11:19 <ynpvisitor13> Ben logged it 1251
13:14:46 <ynpvisitor62> yeah, afternoon SB for folks.
13:14:48 <Lori S> I meant Central time hehe
13:15:03 <Lori S> no, wait, Pacific
13:15:19 <Lori S> 0530 pacific time plus or minus 6 hours
13:18:23 <ynpvisitor62> I'm not sure is Craig was able to be there today, I hope so
13:19:03 <Lori S> Oh, I thought he went. Hope so.
13:25:47 <JarnoO> that's a quick post-disturbance recovery
13:27:17 <Lori S> Indeed
13:27:24 <JarnoO> 1251 is likely just some background noise (perhaps many gazers shouting?), with the first increase in actual eruptive noise @ 1252
13:28:03 <Master Po> May I? :sb:
13:28:05 <JarnoO> thus logged it as 1252 E maj rather than 1251 E maj
13:28:09 <Lori S> 1251 was Craig jumping out of his chair :p (If he is there.)
13:28:12 <JarnoO> haha
13:28:22 <Cooper> on for a second
13:28:27 <Cooper> WOHO, SB WENT
13:28:50 <Lori S> Cooper, I was off by an hour and 20-ish minjutes
13:29:26 <Cooper> Nice, I was 52 minutes off
13:29:51 <Cooper> did Craig get it
13:30:00 <JarnoO> unknown
13:30:10 <Cooper> OF ie
13:30:14 <Cooper> I have to go again
13:30:38 <Cooper> See you all later
13:30:41 <JarnoO> the median should drop by quite some minutes or hours the next 20-odd eruptions or so. Most eruptions occurred around 20d intervals
13:30:43 <JarnoO> cya Cooper
13:31:01 <Cooper> wait, that was what number again?
13:31:04 <Cooper> 62, 64?
13:31:15 <Cooper> I know we are tied for last year!
13:31:16 <JarnoO> ?
13:31:26 <Cooper> number in series
13:31:31 <Lori S> 64 & 32 this year
13:31:36 <Cooper> oh thanks
13:31:41 <JarnoO> that what Lori said
13:31:47 <Cooper> 1 MORE, Bye Everyone again
13:31:57 <Lori S> c ya
13:32:26 <JarnoO> it's dangerous to say, but I think we have that record in the bag by now
13:32:29 <Lori S> Hmmm. No decrease 10 min in
13:32:49 <Lori S> and then back up
13:33:06 <Lori S> Oh, look, OF :p
13:33:29 <JarnoO> probably one of those eruptions where the water phase is one of the louder ones
13:36:00 <lc> I don't know how you call the exact minute the eruption started from the YNM.
13:37:44 <JarnoO> I look at the first increase in noise in the minutes before the maximum (at that time usually) is achieved.
13:39:01 <Lori S> Loosely, I have found the start to be about a minute before the trace starts. Based on in-basin observations.
13:39:04 <lc> well, Ben called 1251, you called 1252 and I said about 1253, so ????
13:39:32 <Lori S> 1252 +/- a minute :p
13:39:52 <JarnoO> what was that steam on the Hill?
13:40:11 <JarnoO> Castle ie
13:40:32 <JarnoO> Bee ie static
13:40:38 <JarnoO> 1336 in-basin
13:40:49 <Casey> Wow
13:41:22 <Kevin L™🌵> cam down
13:41:32 <Lori S> of course it is
13:42:01 <Lori S> Steamboat - Aurum - Beehive. Can we get a Giantess?
13:42:08 <Lori S> Oops, and Castle
13:45:12 <JarnoO> back to topic: 1251 was background noise based on a similar, rapid increase in noise happening a few minutes earlier. At 1253 Steamboat was definitely ie as the trace is quite thick already at that time, but increasing. If you look from 1253 to 1252, you see the trace pretty much continuing until it is below background levels for about a third to ¾th of 1252
13:46:53 <Kat> :castle:
13:50:18 <Jake> anything happen while I was away?
13:50:30 <Jake> just another ho-hum day in Yellowstone
13:50:31 <Kevin L™🌵> Not a thing
13:50:43 <JarnoO> business as usual for the geysers
13:50:53 <JarnoO> Rocket
13:50:56 <Jake> some geysers erupted, some didn't
13:51:11 <Jake> wow, Rocket!
13:51:14 <Jake> saw water on that one
13:52:26 <JarnoO> somehow I thought I saw Grand or Daisy rather than Rocket :P
13:54:28 <JarnoO> Seems like SB had an exceptionally good eruption. "Well over 400'" according to bbev. NV to steam @ ~1306, SV 2 minutes later. No pause nor return to water by 1345
13:55:05 <JarnoO> Castle to steam
13:56:28 <Cooper> I finished my test, now I have 25 minutes
13:56:37 <JarnoO> that's odd Atomizer activity - no followup activity since the 0857 minor and 0910-0912 post-eruptive splashing
13:56:49 <JarnoO> as of 1215, that is
13:57:27 <Jake> Atomizer can do "quick comeback" majors. it reads like it tried to do that and failed to major and that killed the series
13:57:34 <Cooper> over 400!!??
13:57:39 <Cooper> that is a new record
13:58:06 <Jake> fascinating that the final eruption in the series for Atomizer is the big major and for Lion it's the first in the series
13:58:21 <JarnoO> that's interesting Jake. Never heard of Atomizer doing that, so that's a first for me
13:58:42 <Lori S> Cooper, I swear the one I saw had a 500' first burst above the steam. Just based on tree height at 50 ft.
13:58:53 <Cooper> It seems like it sometimes
13:59:01 <JarnoO> that is, killing off a series due to a possible failed quick comeback
13:59:04 <Cooper> they need to measure it!
14:00:10 <Jake> can't say for sure that it killed the series but it is also unusual. there's few people that know Atomizer well and all of them love Artemisia more ;)
14:00:11 <Lori S> Get me a measurement of the avg tree height to the east of SB and I will measure out my video. :)
14:00:27 <ynpvisitor25> Visual estimations are kind of silly, beyond 200 ft I would be very difficult to tell height
14:00:36 <JarnoO> I bet, Jake
14:00:59 <Lori S> ynpvisitor25, from down by Decker?
14:01:11 <ynpvisitor25> The trees are on hills, have to take angle of where video was taken from
14:01:25 <Lori S> Well, silly me
14:01:53 <Cooper> If I had those trees height, I could use trigonometry, and figure that out. the exact height that is
14:01:54 <ynpvisitor25> You have to subtract how much higher the vents are. I think someone measured 375 once
14:02:27 <ynpvisitor25> Yes Cooper, that is what JSJ does
14:03:00 <ynpvisitor25> So glad it went midday for everyone
14:03:12 <Cooper> So, do you know how high the trees are?
14:03:18 <Lori S> I suppose there is more than one person that can do trig correctly, thou, no?
14:03:37 <Cooper> It is clear that I and JSJ can do at least some trig
14:04:17 <Jake> I know it's been discussed before, how to get accurate measurements from a photograph. someone ought to write up a pamphlet about it. factors: viewing height different than vent, camera lens distortions zoomed in or zoomed out, having a known reference height object or angle
14:04:20 <Lori S> Cooper, LOL
14:04:22 <ynpvisitor25> Another 15 minute water phase
14:05:00 <Jake> I would think for an experienced Steamboat observer to make that kind of statement that we can at least assume this was a very large eruption
14:05:56 <Lori S> Jake, define "experienced"
14:06:10 <Cooper> my point exactly Lori
14:06:25 <Cooper> We know a lot of stuff about SB, does that mean we are experienced
14:06:31 <Jake> ha, it's all relative. for Steamboat, seeing more than 5 eruptions
14:06:50 <Cooper> And why would that be necessary?
14:06:53 <Cooper> to do the math
14:06:53 <Lori S> From the start? For an hour? from before, after?
14:06:58 <Cooper> and get an answer
14:07:03 <Jake> the start
14:07:44 <Jake> Cooper, you don't have to see steamboat to do math
14:07:48 <Lori S> So, that would be about 4 experts I know of.
14:08:03 <Lori S> But then I'm sure there are more
14:08:07 <Jake> I didn't say "expert"
14:08:18 <Jake> relatively experienced observer
14:08:22 <Lori S> sorry, 4 with experience
14:08:25 <Cooper> I personally think that in order to be an expert for a certain geyser, you do not have to SEE it a LOT of times, and that you just need to have done your research before hand, same thing with being a geyser
14:08:36 <Jake> Jimi Hendrix asked the question best
14:09:23 <Cooper> so Jake, my question is since I have done research, Lori has done research, we have each seen at least 1 from the start, I think, that we are not experienced to gauge SB, and to gather data?
14:09:35 <Jake> sure, expert status comes with lots of experience. some people have seen thousands of eruptions of Riverside or Great Fountain
14:10:03 <Cooper> so me and Lori are not experienced enough?
14:10:47 <Jake> no, you both have experience and drive to learn. but for me if you see your second eruption and say "wow, that was huge! 400 feet!" I am not going to take that as seriously as someone who has seen more eruptions
14:10:57 <Jake> now, photographic evidence is still important
14:11:19 <lc> exactly what does research tell you about SB?
14:11:21 <Jake> but I still would apply a fudge factor of say 10% to the estimate from a photograph
14:11:31 <Lori S> Here's what I know. The first one was tall enough for me to say "Holy crap that's TALL."
14:11:37 <Kevin L™🌵> I know HK measured one over 400. I would trust him.
14:11:58 <Jake> and ultimately it doesn't really matter. I just take the "400'" comment as it was a very impressive eruption
14:12:08 <Cooper> LC, I do not feel comfortable sharing that with anyone but me and Lori
14:12:15 <lc> one I saw last year HK measured it at 340
14:12:41 <Jake> that could be because viewing conditions were perfect. maybe all the eruptions they've seen have been exactly the same, but this one left an impression enough to leave a comment like that when they also know people will cry bullshit
14:12:42 <Lori S> lc, what I know I don't share most of lest I be laughed at.
14:12:48 <Kevin L™🌵> Let's be real, ANYTHING over 200' to impressive!
14:12:59 <Cooper> True Kevin
14:13:18 <JarnoO> also, it's simply impressive that there are geysers at all
14:13:19 <JarnoO> OT ie
14:13:24 <Cooper> I agree with Lori, it seems like the "experts" shoot down any idea that anyone else has, that is not them
14:14:31 <Cooper> Which is why I have shared none of my documents with anyone that I can not trust, and I have to make sure that if I do give them the precious information that they are not going to shoot it down(99% of the time)
14:15:13 <Jake> I have been guilty of raising my standards so as to not enjoy geysers as much. I saw a Fan & Mortar eruption and a Great Fountain superburst in the same day. When I saw Beehive the next day, I was like *meh*, what else you got? sad.
14:16:41 <ynpvisitor25> That’s a riot Jake
14:17:17 <Cooper> well, I am in School, and while I am done with all of my assignments, I do not want this kind of an argument, and insults, and BTW I know if I stay on, and when I come back on later, that Arty will come up, so NO I am not deleting it
14:17:22 <ynpvisitor25> Was Will there? It would be his first, right?
14:18:16 <ynpvisitor25> Too funny Cooper. Jake is doing you a courtesy by leaving it
14:19:10 <ynpvisitor25> He sure takes everything personally, how did this discussion become about him?
14:20:58 <ynpvisitor12> Talk about another riot aka. outrage
14:22:03 <ynpvisitor12> didn't he say he reads the chat history 25? at some point
14:22:27 <ynpvisitor25> No idea
14:22:51 <ynpvisitor12> Well, I do
14:23:01 <Cooper> I just quit, and changed my username
14:23:12 <Cooper> Thanks for the insult 25
14:23:21 <Cooper> I appreciate it, just what I need right now
14:25:52 <lc> my 2 cents worth, I think no info is better than bad info.
14:26:55 <ynpvisitor46> Well Cooper, l guess l will just stop sharing what l see at Norris.
14:27:24 <ynpvisitor46> No more sb reports for you
14:28:26 <ynpvisitor46> Or any othe steam watchers like you
14:29:18 <ynpvisitor46> bbev
14:29:54 <lc> hey Bill
14:30:02 <Jake> is that a typo? "steam watcher"
14:30:50 <Jake> stream* I like steam watcher though. it sounds like a Victorian gazer insult. You filthy steamwatcher!
14:35:45 <ynpvisitor46> I feel it is insulting to those of us who spend hour upon hour gathering data, information and experience to have a teenager sitting at home being a know it all.
14:35:49 <Kat> LOL Jake
14:36:06 <Kevin L™🌵>
14:36:28 <ynpvisitor46> Streamwatcher, steamwatcher same thing
14:37:34 <Kat> Hey Linda!
14:38:47 <Dave from B™> Congrats 46! Just back from a workout. I'm glad SB shortened its interval.
14:39:11 <lc> hey Dave
14:39:19 <lc> how are you?
14:39:30 <Kevin L™🌵> I told you you should have gone down there.
14:39:40 <Kat> :)
14:39:55 <Dave from B™> Hi, lc. I'm doing great.
14:40:19 <LindaG> Kat, hi there
14:40:27 <lc> will we get the next SB in 5 or 6 days?
14:40:45 <LindaG> I guess Craig was at steamboat?
14:41:11 <lc> I hope Will was there
14:41:30 <lc> I'm sure Kitt was
14:42:37 <Dave from B™> lc, it is possible. I would estimate 5.5-7 days
14:43:01 <Kat> I think Criag posted a phto of him at SB on FB.
14:43:13 <Kat> photo*
14:43:49 <LindaG> Kat, Yeah saw his boots, I assuming he stayed
14:43:52 <Kat> Craig*
14:46:48 <Kat> I think there's no question about that!
14:47:27 <Kat> Bulger
14:48:48 <Kat> Don't know if it was min or maj
14:48:58 <Lori S> Hello Again Hello. Had to skip out cuz boss arrived.
14:49:29 <GO STEAMBOAT> so Craigs prediction was right, nice
14:49:41 <LindaG> Lori S, hello,lori hello
14:49:48 <Dave from B™> 3 eruptions for Craig now
14:50:06 <GO STEAMBOAT> you need to catch up Dave
14:50:21 <GO STEAMBOAT> so record 51 in 12 months, and tied last years 32
14:50:23 <lc> hey Graham. what was Craig's prediction?
14:50:32 <GO STEAMBOAT> today
14:50:50 <GO STEAMBOAT> not sue why he went yesterday :)
14:51:00 <GO STEAMBOAT> wonder if any of his family were there too?
14:51:08 <GO STEAMBOAT> did Kitt leave already?
14:51:22 <lc> maybe it is lining up for us.......
14:51:40 <lc> I'm sure Kitt was there.
14:51:49 <GO STEAMBOAT> that would be nice, good to se the disturbance didnt kill it
14:52:07 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah she must have been there, she didnt report bee ... haha
14:52:30 <lc> Kitt went back in last Wed, I think.
14:52:46 <Dave from B™> Sb last 100 stats: Median drops 2h25m to 9d4h55m
14:53:07 <Dave from B™> Mean drops 1h32m to 134d19h56m
14:56:29 <GO STEAMBOAT> median can only drop for the next 38 eruptions, first interval that's shorter is from last year
14:56:36 <Kevin L™🌵> Lot of BH customers
14:56:43 <GO STEAMBOAT> or it could stay the same ... but we dont want that
14:58:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> last year there were 7 in a row under 7 days .. lets see what it can do now
14:58:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> and that started after the disturbance delay ended with the 22 Aug eruption
14:59:00 <Dave from B™> GS, will we get 38 more eruptions in this active phase?
14:59:20 <GO STEAMBOAT> yes of course :)
14:59:44 <Dave from B™> Did you answer that in pen or pencil?:)
14:59:47 <Kevin L™🌵>
14:59:52 <lc> that would be great
15:00:05 <GO STEAMBOAT> i am sure its logged somewhere.
15:00:05 <ynpvisitor68> link for Joe
15:00:27 <Dave from B™> I figure my last chance to see it is before closing day
15:00:49 <Kevin L™🌵> As long as the deer cooperate
15:00:51 <GO STEAMBOAT> hard to see it in winter .. but theres always next year
15:01:16 <Joe1> Thank You # 68
15:01:44 <Dave from B™> Kevin L, hit one deer and you have a one track mind!!:)
15:02:26 <lc> supper time for us old folks, have a good afternoon all.
15:02:31 <Kevin L™🌵> Isn't that a one rack mind?
15:02:38 <Kevin L™🌵> Night lc
15:02:59 <LindaG> Kevin L™🌵, lol
15:03:01 <Kevin L™🌵> Ask me how many rocks I have hit...
15:03:19 <GO STEAMBOAT> still 24 eruptions in the 1980s in the last 100
15:03:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> maybe they will be gone by the end of the year
15:04:01 <Joe1> #68 I will put Crater Spring On my image and post it soon, thank you very much
15:04:12 <Dave from B™> bye lc
15:04:45 <Jake> always bringing up those 1980's eruptions. omg give it a rest! it was, like, a million years ago!
15:05:12 <Kevin L™🌵> OF ie
15:06:06 <GO STEAMBOAT> you will be able to talk to your grandchildren about all the eruptions way back in the 20teens
15:06:47 <Jake> is that what this decade is called? not just the "teens"?
15:08:02 <GO STEAMBOAT> haha by then it will be ... ancient history
15:08:07 <Kevin L™🌵> I have a few words for it.
15:08:32 <Jake> and they'll tell me to shut up because Tesla Geyser® is way better
15:08:34 <GO STEAMBOAT> and we will still be arguing about how tall each eruption was
15:09:13 <GO STEAMBOAT> and you can show them where you stopped on the stagecoach too
15:09:23 <Dave from B™> :D GRaham
15:09:59 <Dave from B™> I'm with the end does it really matter hopw tall it was? All I know, is it is Big A** tall!!
15:10:04 <Kevin L™🌵> By then the park will be closed to the public
15:10:28 <Lori S> Kevin L™🌵, :(
15:10:31 <Jake> you used to be able to park a car right here and walk in at anytime day or night!
15:11:02 <GO STEAMBOAT> there are PHD dissertations being written on how to calculate the heights based on the seismic data and tantalus creek spike data
15:11:06 <Kevin L™🌵> I miss White Creek, Pocket Basin....
15:12:01 <Jake> We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those
15:12:12 <Jake> days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only
15:12:24 <Jake> thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
15:12:53 <Kevin L™🌵> Not the red ones?
15:13:14 <Lori S> ROFL
15:13:36 <Jake> it's a quote from Grandpa Simpson from way back in the 1990's
15:13:59 <Lori S> Nice spike on Tantalus Gage BTW
15:14:24 <GO STEAMBOAT> must be 417'
15:15:06 <Dave from B™> I'm sorry. I'm not going to read that rambling, Jake!:)
15:15:26 <Lori S> GO STEAMBOAT, No, I think 418
15:15:40 <Dave from B™> Graham, stop pushing people's buttons!:D
15:15:42 <Jake> isn't 4.5 cfs on the smaller side for a Steamboat?
15:16:16 <Jake> less water, more steam = taller eruption
15:17:20 <Jake> that's my theory I developed sitting 300 miles away and that's just science and you can't argue with science
15:17:36 <GO STEAMBOAT> you have to factor in the wind ... so check the radar history
15:17:46 <Kevin L™🌵> Looks like we miss both BH and Grand today
15:17:47 <Dave from B™> haha Jake. Why count steam in your calculations?
15:17:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> and the weight of people on the platform ... good luck gathering that data
15:18:22 <Jake> and the more powerful the eruption, the more updraft created, driving the eruption higher than physics even allows!
15:18:26 <ynpvisitor25> People mass vs SB height!
15:18:51 <Jake> noonish on a nice summer day, I'll bet the boardwalk was straining under the weight
15:18:59 <ynpvisitor25> Physics plus!!
15:19:01 <GO STEAMBOAT> if i tweet it out, it must be true
15:19:03 <Lori S> Don't forget to factor in the rise and fall of the earth's crust
15:19:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> almost full moon too
15:19:52 <ynpvisitor25> Waning moon, so subtract 1/4 mass?
15:19:54 <Kevin L™🌵> There were 847 tour buses in the parking lot....
15:20:10 <GO STEAMBOAT> maybe SB will erupt on Christmas day .... 5 days would be nice
15:20:16 <Kevin L™🌵> Well we got 2 seconds of Grand.
15:20:17 <ynpvisitor25> In spite of only 130 spaces!
15:21:11 <ynpvisitor25> Christmas SB would have to be at least 500 feet so Santa can locate it
15:21:28 <Jake> 4 tour buses arrive at the Norris Geyser Basin. There are zero parking spaces available. 12 people get off the busses to wait in line for the one functioning toilet. Given that the prevailing wind is 5 knots ESE, how high did Steamboat Geyser erupt?
15:21:53 <GO STEAMBOAT> 417' Jake, I already told you
15:21:57 <Kevin L™🌵> Not as high as the toilet.
15:22:20 <Lori S> Kevin L™🌵, Oh dear.
15:22:57 <ynpvisitor25> As long as the tourists have onions on their belts
15:23:11 <Jake> speaking of toilets, I didn't know that the new toilet at Riverside Geyser also included a resurfacing of the Riverside path with that rubbery stuff and they also removed all the benches
15:23:50 <ynpvisitor25> Tragedy about the benches, truly
15:24:06 <Dave from B™> Yeah. I hope benches return
15:24:16 <Kevin L™🌵> I don't think they know what benches are for.
15:24:25 <Jake> the prediction on the sign was two days old so no benches needed
15:24:32 <ynpvisitor25> I think there is little chance this late in they will return
15:24:42 <Kevin L™🌵> We need them at Aurum and Oblong too along with a wide spot.
15:24:56 <Lori S> Norris lost bencehs in Porcelian too with the redo.
15:25:06 <Lori S> Porcelain
15:25:15 <Dave from B™> They are trying to encourage people to "Move along"?
15:25:36 <Dave from B™> Maybe they are trying to keep the "homeless people" from sleeping on them:D
15:25:51 <Jake> certainly there is incentive to do that but I would imagine it's budgetary
15:26:05 <ynpvisitor25> Very different feel if you can’t sit and watch overflow and then the eruption
15:26:11 <Jake> more benches mean more maintenance
15:26:27 <JarnoO> As I have to take into consideration the mass of Pluto in my calculation, as well as that the speed of light is around 300 000 000 m/s, it simplifies the calculation to simply the mass of the sun (1.989E30 kg), convert that to meters and subtract 1.989 999...873 from that, the height of Steamboat is 127 meters, or 417 feet
15:26:32 <Lori S> Why put in benhes when you can get people to haul in their own chaors, right?
15:26:41 <Jake> all the benches at Riverside before were "bolted down" somehow
15:26:42 <ynpvisitor25> Not more, just return the ones that were there
15:26:51 <Jake> maybe they don't know how to anchor benches in that rubber path stuff
15:26:51 <Lori S> I have Dave's keybaord today
15:27:24 <Jake> they were pretty thorough and there are those low log barriers on both sides that people sit on
15:27:41 <ynpvisitor25> Not many folks hauling chairs to Riverside
15:27:47 <Jake> it's not the worst setup just more uncomfortable to squat down that far
15:28:01 <Lori S> Got to go do some work. BBL
15:28:43 <ynpvisitor25> The bench at Clepsydra never came back
15:32:17 <Dave from B™> And, before, I always thought it was a NO NO to sit on those logs at Riverside
15:35:04 <Kevin L™🌵> For you it is Dave.
15:35:40 <Jake> maybe it still is depending on the ranger and on the day but that can't be enforced and be reasonable at the same time
15:36:36 <ynpvisitor25> People have always sat on them to my knowledge
15:37:16 <ynpvisitor25> And now, they are all there is, kind of like being at Echinus in the 80’s
15:37:32 <Kevin L™🌵> I remember sitting on the edge of the bw by Aurum with a ranger. Now they want to bust you for doing it.
15:41:22 <Dave from B™> Le is preoccupied with conewalkers, bison petters and harrassers
15:43:59 <Kevin L™🌵> hey don't like deer poachers either
15:46:08 <Joe> Here is the revised Norris Geyser Basin ref. map with Crater Spring thanks #68 for your help
15:55:37 <JarnoO> thanks Joe
16:05:03 <lori lurking> Are the closest picnic tables to the Snow Lodge cabins at then end of the OF parking lot?
16:07:30 <Dave from B™> Aren't there some in front of Geyser Grill somewhere?
16:07:54 <Dave from B™> Just asking...not based on an actual sighting
16:13:06 <lori lurking> I don't know, we aren't usually over there when eating picnic meals. Our trip is later this year, so the general store grills will be closing earlier, might be more evening picnics, so I was trying to figure it out in advance. I can always walk around and look, lol
16:14:07 <Dave from B™> We've started bringing a small portable camp stove to cook with. We cook about 15-20' away from our cabin
16:14:38 <Cooper> have things calmed down in here.
16:15:05 <Kevin L™🌵> I know there were some on the south side of the parking lot
16:15:18 <Cooper> sorry about earlier ...
16:15:43 <lori lurking> I have our Coleman stove ready.
16:17:09 <Cooper> My teacher had an incident in our class, then we took our test, and that emotion of her, and on her face kind off seemed to portay on my additue, Not trying to make excuses, but Sorry about earlier, I mean I am REALLY SORRY... I hope you can forgive me
16:18:07 <Kevin L™🌵> I believe the Earth is still spinning Cooper.
16:18:29 <Kevin L™🌵> Cam isn't but the Earth is.
16:18:40 <Dave from B™> Cooper, I'm going to be honest. You are one of the brightest 13 year olds out there. But many gazers have decades and decades of experience. You need to respect that. You're a good kid. No worries. I'm happy you are here to contribute.
16:18:59 <Cooper> I see Bee went
16:19:10 <Kevin L™🌵> We didn't
16:20:08 <Cooper> Thanks Kevin, and Yes Dave, I will try to respect that, I do not really know what came into me, and the fact that I am here to continue is why I submitted a Short 2 Page Beehive article to the sput a few days ago.
16:20:18 <Kevin L™🌵> Cam has a really bad attitude problem today.
16:20:38 <Cooper> Haha, like me but on a bigger scale:)
16:21:51 <Dave from B™> Cooper, it is nice to see you writing an article for the Sput. I can't wait to read it.
16:22:21 <Cooper> Thanks
16:23:12 <ynpvisitor52> Quit making arm chair predictions and being a know it all at our expense. Please know that the info we put on gt is meant to give out the best possible info so that others can see the event! To disregard our observarions or minimize them . . . Just makes us want to stop entering ANY info. This was one of the tallest eruptions of all we've seen!
16:23:42 <Cooper> for some reason I have a feeling that when I grow up and graduate college, a few of you will know more about me then my closest friends, and I have a feeling at least one of you will say "We watched him grow up in this class from.
16:23:44 <ynpvisitor52> Bbev
16:23:47 <Cooper> Sorry 52
16:23:51 <Cooper> I knew it!!!
16:24:04 <Cooper> so it was a good one
16:24:08 <Cooper> that is great
16:24:12 <Cooper> not that they are all not good
16:25:30 <Cooper> But 52, I would like to say, that they are not "arm chair" predictions, they are based on Data that can be gathered as easily on GT as anywhere, any it likely because of you that I get to do the math, and make the predictions, so thank you
16:25:37 <Dave from B™> There is no doubt we can all gather more accurate data IN THE FIELD but most of us don't have that luxury so we have to do the best we can from afar
16:26:34 <ynpvisitor52> They are ALL different! The one constant is they all differ! This one was just crazy tall! Apology accepted
16:27:12 <Dave from B™> bbev, sounds like a great day to be at Norris!
16:27:14 <Kevin L™🌵> Now if we can get one of you young guys to figure out how to make this #$$%#$%$% cam work. :P
16:27:14 <GO STEAMBOAT> what was that comment from 52 .... i think we were all joking here, i have no objection to height estimates. historically we have a lot of debates about heights
16:27:27 <Cooper> when someone else asks me to share it, 1st.. I will want to talk to the other person who has helped me make it, and 2nd I want a few more than 3 eruptions that I predicted well. But after those are done, I may share it(and I likely will)
16:27:35 <GO STEAMBOAT> i appreciate seeing them , SB is always big
16:27:45 <Cooper> so true
16:27:56 <GO STEAMBOAT> i dont do height estimates over about 15'
16:28:28 <ynpvisitor43> Bbev is on chat???
16:28:33 <Cooper> I have only seen one, but the next day when I saw Grand, I said "WOW, I mean WOW, think about SB compared to This, it looks like Anemone and Aurum in height comparison"
16:28:41 <GO STEAMBOAT> nothing said here should be taken seriously
16:28:54 <Cooper> that is also true
16:29:02 <Jake> what about when you said it was 417.92 feet?
16:29:11 <GO STEAMBOAT> i do agree with multiple sources that have quoted over 400' numbers
16:29:16 <Cooper> when who said 417.92????
16:29:27 <Dave from B™> GS, so this is fake news spot...where can I go for real news?
16:29:28 <Cooper> Craig got it!
16:29:30 <Kevin L™🌵> I must admit I was lucky enough to have T Scott, Herb Warren, John Muller and a few great others who to take my snotty little nose and show me how things worked. I still am totally greatful for them putting up with me.
16:29:37 <GO STEAMBOAT> i must have missed the 0.92
16:29:46 <Cooper> ok, I trust you now
16:30:15 <GO STEAMBOAT> i know i have seen a height estimate of 420 before
16:30:29 <Cooper> my question is, what makes a kid, try to stab someone with a pencil, not the lead, but the eraser?
16:30:43 <Jake> 420 makes the most sense if ya know what I mean
16:30:51 <Dave from B™> haha Jake
16:30:57 <Cooper> Jake, where are you seeing this 417.92?
16:31:12 <Jake> Cooper, I'm making stuff up, just teasing
16:31:18 <Cooper> oh
16:31:21 <Cooper> okay
16:31:28 <Cooper> so wait you mean 41.792?
16:31:31 <Cooper> haha
16:31:32 <Jake> because GO STEAMBOAT was making it up before
16:31:37 <GO STEAMBOAT> no comments were made at anyones expense and we enjoy seeing the comments. still doesnt mean we cannot speculate
16:32:03 <GO STEAMBOAT> everyone asks "when will it erupt"
16:32:12 <Jake> "Don't believe everything you read on the internet" -- Abraham Lincoln
16:32:18 <Dave from B™> I'll take ANY SB; no matter how tall
16:32:24 <GO STEAMBOAT> at nobodys expense ... except Daves
16:32:30 <Kevin L™🌵> When I was in highway design the wanted things to check to 1/1000th of an inch. Right. Like that roadgrader is going to be able to handle 1/1000th of an inch? Geeeez.
16:32:31 <Jake> oh, that reminds me, when will it erupt?
16:32:36 <Cooper> and the deers
16:33:01 <GO STEAMBOAT> i hope 52 understands
16:33:17 <Jake> I got to see someone roll their eyes about the idea of waiting an hour for Grand this weekend so it's all relative
16:35:39 <Kevin L™🌵>
16:37:55 <Cooper> Hey CRAIG
16:37:58 <ynpvisitor43> Was 52 there today?
16:38:00 <Cooper> Craig**
16:38:07 <Cooper> How was it?
16:38:23 <CraigC> 52?
16:38:31 <CraigC> hey Graham
16:38:42 <Jake> was Steamboat taller than 52'? answer honestly now
16:38:45 <CraigC> it was Steamboaty
16:38:51 <ynpvisitor43> Someone on chat, they just left
16:38:57 <Cooper> how tall would you say?
16:39:07 <GO STEAMBOAT> glad you saw it ... now you have family time
16:39:16 <ynpvisitor43> Craig says 1000 ft
16:39:19 <GO STEAMBOAT> it was big Cooper, they all are
16:39:23 <CraigC> it was taller than the previous 2 that I saw, but I had no measurement, it just seemed way taller
16:39:30 <Cooper> okay
16:39:39 <Cooper> so that is 2, now I agree whole heartedly
16:39:55 <ynpvisitor43> Congrats Craig!
16:40:05 <Jake> yes, congrats, Craig!
16:40:09 <CraigC> I watched it grow from the dip section of the boardwalk, and it surged really high after the initial eruption hieght
16:40:10 <ynpvisitor43> One midday for you
16:40:12 <Kevin L™🌵> :)
16:40:24 <Kat> Go Craig!
16:40:24 <Jake> and all who got this one, sounds like a premier eruption for 2019
16:40:24 <Kevin L™🌵> Was your Mom there?
16:41:00 <CraigC> mom was with my sister enjoying breakfast and sitting under her awning
16:41:16 <ynpvisitor43> At noon?
16:41:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> Craig will be getting bored with them
16:41:23 <GO STEAMBOAT> eruptions, not fam :)
16:41:31 <ynpvisitor52> 52 was working today
16:41:58 <Kevin L™🌵> Work?
16:42:02 <Dave from B™> Work gets in the way...that sounds familiar
16:42:41 <Dave from B™> Congrats, CraigC! Say hello to your mom:)
16:42:42 <ynpvisitor43> From your comment I thought you were there 52
16:42:55 <CraigC> Cooper, if you don't learn to show respect to people that have led the way before you, and many of the rest of us, then pretend I am not here from now on
16:43:19 <Cooper> Craig, like I said earlier, I am sorry
16:43:33 <Cooper> and I am not going to pretend you are not here
16:43:45 <CraigC> Dave, thanks, and my mom will be ecstatic to hear a hello from you ;)
16:44:01 <GO STEAMBOAT> wow i need to read back sometime, the conversation has scrolled too fast for me to keep up ...
16:44:02 <Dave from B™> :D. I'm happy for you. 3 SB's!!
16:44:21 <ynpvisitor43> Will you stay now Craig, try for #4?
16:44:37 <ynpvisitor52> I was called down from bookstore
16:44:40 <Cooper> you, and other Gazers are "mentors" in my eyes, I know sometime I do not treat you like it, but I make mistakes, and I hope you can forgive me
16:45:08 <ynpvisitor43> bbev is on chat!
16:45:28 <ynpvisitor43> Nice to work on site!
16:45:33 <ynpvisitor52> Cb has told bbev to never, never ever go to that wicked chat page
16:45:34 <Dave from B™> I bet Bill would rather be in a kayak right now!
16:45:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> glad you got to see it rising, that is a view you get to appreciate it ... wish i could see it there sometime
16:46:08 <ynpvisitor52> But bbev does not always listen
16:46:09 <ynpvisitor43> That’s funny Bill
16:46:14 <GO STEAMBOAT> whats so wicked about us?
16:46:24 <ynpvisitor52> He will now
16:46:36 <Cooper> OF
16:46:40 <ynpvisitor43> How many Steamboats for you now?
16:47:15 <ynpvisitor43> Bill must have what, 20?
16:47:25 <Kevin L™🌵> Nearing 2h since the controls listened to me.
16:47:33 <Katie> OF IE static
16:47:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> Craig wont let us talk to him now, we are not worthy
16:47:54 <CraigC> ynpvisitor43, yes, I am here for another week or two
16:47:55 <Cooper> haha
16:48:09 <Cooper> where are you now?
16:48:11 <ynpvisitor52> 11 from start if l count the 3D seen rising from the bookstore
16:48:48 <ynpvisitor43> Nice, 11 from start and how many from your trailer?
16:49:04 <ynpvisitor52> I am getting ready to close
16:49:18 <ynpvisitor43> Another 10?
16:49:37 <Kevin L™🌵> What this radio needs:
16:49:40 <ynpvisitor43> You close at 1700?
16:50:07 <Dave from B™> Thanks for your contributions Bill. I hope to see you again before the season closes.
16:50:57 <CraigC> Cooper, I am all about second chances. I spent 30 years of my life dedicated to helping people overcome, if they really wanted to. But you cant keep acting like petulant brat and say that is in in the past. This is mostly grown ups, except when we arent. Adapt quickly, please!
16:51:05 <GO STEAMBOAT> and we wont report you for coming in here
16:51:30 <ynpvisitor43> Hear hear Craig!
16:54:13 <CraigC> ynpvisitor43, hey, add meon FB, I am posting 2 pics showing the difference in initial height and after it jumped
16:54:48 <Dave from B™> CraigC, how much warning did you have that the eruption was coming?
16:56:22 <CraigC> none, I was walking back from having a sandwich, Kitt called, so I stayed and watched it start from the open space past Emerald, and I am glad, cuz they got drenched and I saw the whole height
16:56:58 <Cooper> where are you going to post it? as in on what page?
16:57:02 <GO STEAMBOAT> thats a good spot to see the height, i saw Taras shots from there
16:57:16 <CraigC> I am loading it on my FB
16:58:57 <CraigC> Carol got an amazing video footage from a better angle there
16:58:58 <Dave from B™> Really, you missed getting drenched for a measly sandwich? :). At least the wind wasn't blowing to the parking lot. It's funny about the prevailing winds at SB.
16:59:29 <CraigC> I still got drenched when I went down to retrieve my rain jacket that I left draped over my chair LMAO
17:00:13 <GO STEAMBOAT> udo poted that you were next to him at the start .... SB does things to your brain
17:01:12 <Dave from B™> hahaha Graham
17:01:23 <Dave from B™> Just don't inhale
17:01:42 <CraigC> GO STEAMBOAT, I was next to him most of the day
17:01:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> Barb wa there, KC and Julie, Chris and Gid D got their second
17:03:24 <Dave from B™> Are you staying for the next, Craig?
17:03:47 <GO STEAMBOAT> nice wind shift to get it so vertical on your second pc Craig
17:06:25 <Dave from B™> Has kcmule talked at all about trying again?
17:07:50 <GO STEAMBOAT> he is not here much ... maybe the work thing is getting in the way
17:08:09 <Kat> CraigC, Those pictures are awesome!
17:08:17 <Katie> They sure are!
17:08:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> you still dont have any with rainbows do you Craig?
17:09:32 <GO STEAMBOAT> you cant quit yet
17:12:59 <Cooper> well, I am off for a little bit, be back in a few minutes.
17:19:01 <Dave from B™> wb, Lori S
17:19:07 <Cooper> thawt was quicker than I thought it would take
17:19:13 <Cooper> Oh, Hey Lori
17:19:27 <Lori S> Hi Cooper
17:19:35 <Lori S> Hi Dave
17:19:53 <Cooper> Is Craig still here?
17:20:15 <ynpvisitor32> i think he is scrubbing the silica off
17:20:26 <Lori S> ynpvisitor32, :thumbsup:
17:20:31 <Cooper> haha
17:21:12 <Lori S> I feel so bad for Craig having to do that 3 times now. (sarcasm)
17:21:19 <Dave from B™> :D
17:21:27 <Dave from B™> You think he would learn:)
17:21:37 <Cooper> me too, I would never switch with him;)
17:22:23 <Kevin L™🌵> I would have been happy with Bee and Grand on cam today.
17:23:22 <Dave from B™> I can't believe more gazers don't park out on the road to Canyon
17:24:07 <Kevin L™🌵> Aurum
17:24:19 <Dave from B™> Woohoo
17:24:26 <Cooper> That is a nice surprise on a live cam
17:24:28 <Katie> Thanks, camlink. That was nice
17:25:18 <LindaG> Dang missed aurum
17:25:21 <Kevin L™🌵> Nice of it to come up then!
17:25:25 <Lori S> I missed Aurum too
17:25:41 <Dave from B™> It was short and sweet
17:25:46 <Katie> It let us catch Aurum yesterday, too. Once.
17:31:16 <Dave from B™> Time to head down to the market and help close. Have a great evening everyone! Congrats to all gazers who saw SB today!
17:31:44 <Kevin L™🌵> Have fun Dave
17:32:05 <Lori S> Night Dave
17:32:18 <Cooper> Bye Dave
17:32:22 <Lori S> But how tall is the market? hehe
17:32:43 <Dave from B™> Lori is about 16':D:D
17:34:24 <Lori S> Dave from B™, :thumbsup:
17:38:03 <Cooper> .
17:38:03 <Cooper> .
17:38:04 <Cooper> .
17:38:06 <Cooper> Lion
17:42:02 <Lori S> you gonna enter the Lion ?
17:42:17 <Cooper> I am not
17:42:51 <Lori S> Mind if I do?
17:42:58 <Cooper> no
17:43:25 <Lori S> was that a strt or an ie?
17:43:40 <Cooper> Start
17:44:28 <LindaG> bbl, gotta cook diner
17:44:34 <Cooper> bye
17:44:57 <Lori S> Bye Linda Goodbye
17:45:44 <GO STEAMBOAT> probably the initial
17:46:00 <Michael> Bye Linda
17:46:23 <Lori S> GO STEAMBOAT, I should out ini?
17:46:34 <Lori S> PUT ini ?
17:46:44 <Cooper> no, I think Ini
17:47:50 <Lori S> I added ini
17:48:03 <Cooper> :thumbsup:
17:48:04 <Lori S> Should there be a ?
17:48:09 <Lori S> for the ini
17:54:53 <Cooper> Well, I am off for dinner, once again sorry about earlier.
17:55:51 <Michael> See you Cooper.
17:56:21 <Lori S> Night Cooper. I will be off soon.
18:06:52 <Cooper> back
18:07:24 <Lori S> wb. I am still here.
18:07:44 <Cooper> Thx
18:17:56 <Cooper> OF
18:18:30 <Kevin L™🌵> Wow. Streaming even works.
18:19:25 <Cooper> That is a first
18:19:55 <Michael> Nice while it lasted.
18:28:55 <Cooper> bbl
18:51:10 <LindaG> I'm back....
18:51:27 <LindaG> I'm ready when u are kevin
18:59:09 <Michael> Lion ie
19:00:00 <LindaG> 👍
19:02:32 <LindaG> Hmm doesn't look like much is due
19:04:21 <LindaG> Bulger ie
19:06:10 <LindaG> Daisy might be due
19:07:27 <Michael> Worth a shot.
19:10:14 <Michael> Though (if I have the location right) it's not seaming much now.
19:10:58 <LindaG> New Jersey 2-0 little league world series ☺
19:12:13 <LindaG> OT
19:25:39 <Cooper> back
19:25:44 <Cooper> with some more dinner
19:25:59 <LindaG> Cooper, hi
19:26:07 <Cooper> Hi Linda
19:26:36 <LindaG> It's quiet
19:26:49 <Michael> Hi again, Cooper.
19:27:01 <Cooper> Hi Michael
19:27:13 <Cooper> How are you evenings going?
19:27:51 <Michael> I missed all the geyser excitement today, but we did have a good shelf cloud this afternoon while I was at work.
19:28:04 <LindaG> Ok, just hanging out watching tv and driving the cam
19:28:11 <Cooper> Nice
19:28:21 <Cooper> Any developing wall clouds?
19:28:36 <Cooper> Where do you live?
19:28:43 <Cooper> if you do not mind me asking
19:29:06 <Michael> I'm in Cincinnati area, Ohio.
19:29:16 <Cooper> Nice
19:29:24 <Cooper> I love shelf clouds
19:29:34 <LindaG> We had a serious storm here yesterday, cool clouds
19:29:34 <Cooper> I have not go one in Colorado for a few weeks now
19:29:52 <Cooper> got* not go
19:30:10 <LindaG> We had a shelf cloud too
19:30:20 <Cooper> I am jealous:)
19:30:28 <Michael> No wall clouds that I'm aware of with these storms. I'm usually happier if I don't see those...
19:31:15 <Cooper> Tomorrow afternoon I have a good shot at thunderstorms, so likely one or two severe ones I can go look at
19:31:45 <Michael> Are you up against the mountains, or further east?
19:32:49 <Cooper> just up against the mountains, but I get a decent bit of severe storms, and every year I get 2 or 3 tornadoes within a few miles
19:33:13 <Cooper> Luckly I only have to go a few miles east to get the againt the pressure wall
19:33:23 <Cooper> so I get some good thunderstorms to go chase
19:34:15 <LindaG> We get some nasty storms here on the coast. Yesterday's was hanging on over the barrier island north east of me and then it moved southwest. Very strange
19:34:37 <Cooper> # Stupid Pressure
19:39:09 <LindaG> LC
19:39:58 <LindaG> ie
19:52:14 <LindaG> OF
19:57:14 <Cooper> well, nice storm out front
19:57:21 <Cooper> time to go take some lightning pictures
19:58:36 <Michael> Have fun!
19:59:43 <LindaG> Lion
19:59:49 <Michael> Lion ie. Did you get the start time, Linda?
20:00:19 <LindaG> No cam came up and it was ie
20:00:30 <LindaG> Marmot cave
20:00:38 <Kevin L™🌵> At this time of day shouldn't it be darkening pictures?
20:02:18 <Michael> It is if you leave the lenscap on by mistake.
20:03:32 <Kevin L™🌵> Been there, done that.
20:03:56 <Kevin L™🌵> I think someone left the lens cap on me today.
20:10:38 <LindaG> Uh oh cam hanging
20:13:10 <LindaG> Ah site can't be reached
20:14:20 <Cooper> stupid pressure, killed it
20:14:37 <Cooper> Got 1
20:15:11 <LindaG> Easy come, easy go
20:16:20 <Cooper> Not the best lightning I have got
20:16:23 <Cooper> but okay
20:16:23 <Cooper>
20:17:15 <LindaG> Very nice
20:17:26 <Cooper> thanks
20:18:25 <Kevin L™🌵> Shocking
20:18:50 <Michael> Very funny, Kevin.
20:19:01 <LindaG> Lol
20:19:05 <Cooper> haha
20:19:10 <Cooper> I just got that
20:19:51 <Kevin L™🌵> I think whatever they gave me for that stress test is still affecting me.
20:20:57 <LindaG> Did they do the injection instead of treadmill?
20:21:10 <Kevin L™🌵> Yes
20:21:35 <LindaG> A friend had that done said it was weird when it took effect
20:22:37 <Kevin L™🌵> The way I had to hold my arm messed it up again too.
20:23:53 <LindaG> 😕
20:23:55 <Michael> Ugh. That sounds like a less-fun-than-average trip to the doctor.
20:24:40 <Kevin L™🌵> Yep. I have an overnight appointment on the 29th too. :P
20:24:58 <Cooper> hey?
20:25:02 <Cooper> why?
20:25:10 <Cooper> oops, Why not hey'
20:25:45 <LindaG> Kevin L™🌵, 🙁
20:25:55 <Kevin L™🌵> They don't like how I am sleeping. Oxygen drops too low.
20:26:11 <Cooper> hmm
20:26:17 <LindaG> Oh so ita sort of a sleep test
20:26:53 <Kevin L™🌵> with lots of wires and electrodes.
20:27:15 <LindaG> Oh yikes
20:27:46 <LindaG> I did a take home sleep apnea test, didn't sleep a wink
20:29:01 <Cooper> if you do not mind me asking, do you what SPO2 Percentage you drop to whule sleeeping?
20:29:16 <Kevin L™🌵> 65
20:29:29 <Cooper> 65?
20:29:41 <Cooper> like 65% Spo2 Percentage
20:29:41 <Kevin L™🌵> yes
20:29:53 <Cooper> uhmm
20:30:12 <LindaG> Oxygen is highly over rated 😉
20:30:20 <Kevin L™🌵> 95 when I am awake.
20:30:21 <Cooper> haha Linda
20:30:26 <Cooper> 65!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy Cow
20:31:19 <Cooper> I would call it an emergency if you drop below 80, but 65? do you know why?
20:31:45 <Kevin L™🌵> That is what they are looking at.
20:31:58 <Cooper> That is borderline Anoxia
20:32:17 <Cooper> Aka, Oxygen Deprivation
20:32:33 <Kevin L™🌵> I figure if it goes much lower it won't matter anyway.
20:32:53 <Cooper> I wonder whether you RR drops, and your BPM get higher. that would make that fit-ish
20:33:00 <Cooper> I hope it goes well
20:33:06 <Cooper> and they figure it out
20:33:17 <Cooper> and then you get treated, and get back to YNP ASAP
20:33:25 <Kevin L™🌵> I do have a post retirement lot reserved for me anyway.
20:33:58 <Cooper> Well, this stupid storm has gone boom again, time to take a few more photographs.
20:34:09 <Kevin L™🌵> Good luck.
20:34:34 <LindaG> Kevin L™🌵, does it wake you up
20:35:59 <Michael> I approve of the dark humor, Kevin. Hope the sleep-study is worth a few jokes afterwards.
20:36:18 <Kevin L™🌵> Sometimes. I do feel better if I get up and sit a bit.
20:37:09 <LindaG> I wake up gasping for air occasionally. My husband stops breathing
20:37:24 <LindaG> That will get your attention
20:37:50 <Kevin L™🌵> Yes it will.
20:38:08 <LindaG> He's snoring away and then nothing
20:38:41 <LindaG> Might be whats happening to you
20:39:13 <LindaG> This darn cam
20:41:21 <Kevin L™🌵> Darn. I wanted to see Great Fountain.
20:41:26 <LindaG> Think oblong is erupting?
20:41:51 <Kevin L™🌵> Looks like more steam than normal.
20:42:10 <LindaG> It does, all of a sudden
20:42:36 <Kevin L™🌵> Hopefully someone at Grand will pot it if it is.
20:42:40 <Kevin L™🌵> post
20:43:12 <Michael> I think it's just the air cooling toward evening, making everything steamier.
20:43:42 <LindaG> Good point
20:44:23 <Kevin L™🌵> It is 70° with 26% humidity so steam should not be high.
20:44:26 <Cooper> storm decided to move east
20:45:26 <LindaG> Kevin L™🌵, another goos point ☺
20:45:40 <LindaG> *good
20:45:40 <Michael> Oblong is a Big cloud when it erupts. It used to fool people into thinking Grand was going.
20:45:58 <Michael> Back when they were lined up on the old camera.
20:46:50 <LindaG> Dont really see water
20:47:08 <Kevin L™🌵> I was hoping to hear from Betty today. Only 114° in Death Valley so not as bad as I thought it would be.
20:47:58 <Michael> If you call it 45, it sounds almost pleasant!
20:47:59 <LindaG> Supposed to get together? Whoohoo 114!
20:49:13 <Kevin L™🌵> I don't think I will see her this time although my test was only about a mile away from where she was staying.
20:50:23 <LindaG> Have a good stiff drink before the test 😉
20:50:52 <LindaG> With betty
20:51:21 <ynpvisitor57> Kevin doesn’t drink!
20:51:29 <LindaG> Oh
20:52:47 <LindaG> Come on grand
20:54:43 <ynpvisitor57> Same old non working cam!
20:55:29 <LindaG> Someone is non geyser hill
20:56:11 <LindaG> *on
20:56:16 <Kevin L™🌵> HK posted a great Aurum video:
20:57:59 <Michael> Perfect for watching during the next cam outage.
20:59:56 <LindaG> Nice!
21:00:28 <LindaG> Ha shouldn't try to line this upn in the dark lol
21:02:01 <Cooper> Now it is time for bed, goodnight all, talk to you all in the morning
21:02:30 <Kevin L™🌵> Night
21:02:46 <LindaG> There we go!
21:02:55 <LindaG> Cooper, Good night
21:03:32 <LindaG> I'm calling it a night also. Good night
21:04:08 <LindaG> If the cam will let me out
21:04:18 <LindaG> Ok I'm out
21:04:22 <Kevin L™🌵> Night
21:04:31 <Michael> Night, Linda and Cooper.
21:04:34 <LindaG> Kevin L™🌵, night
21:04:43 <LindaG> Michael, night
21:17:26 <ynpvisitor46> Thank-You Kevin for the Aurum Video. What a incredible little Geyser. Nightie-night/ Laters
21:17:42 <Michael> Bye, 46.
21:17:49 <Kevin L™🌵> Bye
21:25:10 <Michael> Grand going
21:37:02 <Michael> That's all for me tonight.
21:37:24 <Kevin L™🌵> Night
21:38:23 <Kevin L™🌵> Not expecting anything but watching Crab Fishing in the computer room beats Dance Moms in the bedroom. :p