Showing logs for date: 2020-02-05
02:19:23 <ynpvisitor43> Grand ie, I think
02:43:59 <ynpvisitor43> Riverside ie
06:11:41 <Rice> Good Morning, 35 deg warmer today
06:51:56 <LindaGp> good morning all
06:52:14 <LindaGp> booting tablet then ill take cam
06:52:55 <Joe> Have fun
06:52:57 <KittyM> Hi, Linda
06:53:11 <LindaGp> KittyM, hi
06:53:20 <LindaGp> Joe, thx
06:54:06 <LindaGp> got it
06:54:54 <LindaGp> KittyM, so our guys at the Aussie open didn't make it ☹
07:04:04 <Dave from B™> Good morning everyone
07:04:20 <LindaGp> Dave from B™, good morning
07:04:49 <LindaGp> lion ie
07:05:00 <ynpvisitor112> :thumbsup:
07:05:04 <KittyM> Linda, but I was excited about Sophia winning the womens!
07:06:45 <LindaGp> yes, definitely the changing of the guard
07:06:56 <LindaGp> I don't know much about her
07:07:37 <KittyM> Me either, but she played amazingly
07:07:44 <Kat> Morning all!
07:08:05 <LindaGp> Kat, morning
07:08:21 <Kat> LindaGp, sorry for the crazy texts...I was confused Hahahaha
07:08:42 <LindaGp> Kat, no problem
07:11:39 <Kat> No coyote lately??
07:12:21 <LindaGp> last night at dusk there were two
07:12:39 <Kat> Oh...great!
07:13:18 <LindaGp> at I thought they were fighting but I think they were playing. but then the one left.
07:14:26 <LindaGp> ravens
07:16:23 <Dave from B™> Nice....coyote finally told a friend about his/her find
07:17:23 <LindaGp> yeah they were definitely wrassling, but it could have been a mate, didnt last too long
07:18:10 <Dave from B™> Already 36 degrees warmer than this time yesterday
07:19:47 <Joe> I think both coyotes were female, they both scent marked the bison in the same maner :)
07:20:53 <LindaGp> Joe, good observation, thinking about it you are right
07:21:35 <Joe> /
07:23:34 <LindaGp> I didn't quit
07:31:13 <Ryan (desk)> Little Squirt?
07:31:48 <LindaGp> thinking same thing but disnt see water, did you?
07:32:24 <Ryan (desk)> I sure do.
07:32:35 <LindaGp> ok
07:33:01 <LindaGp> what's steam to left of it?
07:34:02 <Ryan (desk)> Bronze/Silver?
07:34:32 <LindaGp> bronze tonight I believe
07:34:51 <Dave from B™> Morning Ryan
07:34:56 <LindaGp> *to right
07:40:34 <LindaGp> about 7 ravens
07:41:56 <Dave from B™> I have a feeling today is going to be an active day on the carcass. I can see wolves or eagles finding it today
07:43:00 <LindaGp> activity will draw them in
07:43:43 <Dave from B™> Even ravens have a "pecking" order
07:44:10 <LindaGp> 🙂
07:45:52 <LindaGp> bad visibility on grand
07:58:42 <Rice> What does it say about us, that we are looking forward to an active day of animals eating a dead carcass?
08:00:20 <LindaGp> did not
08:00:51 <Dave from B™> Rice, it tells me that we understand the role of nature.
08:01:47 <LindaGp> either that or we are bored silly 😉
08:03:14 <ynpvisitor92> Rice, is there anything else other than a "dead carcass"
08:04:24 <Ryan (desk)> Ive known some people who fit one of those words, but not both.
08:05:01 <Rice> ynpvisitor92, point taken, Like your Hot water Heater!
08:05:11 <ynpvisitor92> There was a "live carcass' in 'Weekend at Bernie's'
08:09:15 <Dave from B™> Ryan, I'm assuming you saw the frosty Micah beard on Fb yesterday
08:09:31 <Ryan (desk)> yup
08:09:34 <Ryan (desk)> .01
08:26:18 <LindaGp> OF
08:26:24 <Ryan (desk)> Wow!
08:26:44 <LindaGp> OF 08:25
08:29:18 <LindaGp> no one there
08:32:51 <LindaGp> might have missed lion
08:38:04 <Lori S 🌨> Hello Everybody Hello
08:43:01 <LindaGp> Lori S 🌨, hello Lori hello
08:43:36 <Lori S 🌨🦗> Hi Linda
08:43:56 <LindaGp> storm warning 5pm today till Friday 11 am. 10-18 in, 21 .possible
08:43:57 <Lori S 🌨🦗> Any carcass action?
08:44:12 <LindaGp> ravens
08:44:21 <Lori S 🌨🦗> LindaGp, You mean here, not on the east coast, right?
08:44:29 <LindaGp> correct
08:44:47 <Ryan (desk)> wow
08:44:54 <Ryan (desk)> Caving will be fun lol
08:45:51 <Lori S 🌨🦗> Yeah, we're about to get clobbered. Snowing already.
08:45:59 <LindaGp> we won't be seeing much tomorroq
08:46:58 <Lori S 🌨🦗> There's a little fox that dens under a motel cabin next to our trailer. He didn't come out the last 24-48 hours in the snow and cold. Finally saw tracks this morning.
08:47:23 <LindaGp> he's alive ☺
08:48:52 <Lori S 🌨🦗> He knows our Wylie walk schedule and seems to adjust his outings accordingly. We've had a few encounters though where he went "Oh crap. I better RUN."
08:50:12 <Dave from B™> Yep...calendar turned to February and winter arrived in MT
08:50:49 <Lori S 🌨🦗> Dave from B™, How much you got up your way?
08:50:55 <LindaGp> that happens in Jersey too sometimes, February can be the worst month
08:53:42 <Dave from B™> only 1-2" on Monday but storm is hitting us tomorrow
08:53:43 <LindaGp> I have a feeling we missed grand
08:54:01 <Dave from B™> And, I'm going to summer in 14 days:)
08:54:58 <Lori S 🌨🦗> Dave from B™, where is summer?
08:55:15 <Dave from B™> New Zealand
08:55:33 <Lori S 🌨🦗> Oh, nice.
09:05:10 <LindaGp> all this steam is annoying
09:06:04 <Rice> LindaGp, Ask the Rangers to turn the geysers off, then we will be able to see better.
09:06:28 <LindaGp> bulger ie
09:06:31 <Kevin L™️ > Dave is making clam chowder for his store.
09:06:39 <LindaGp> Rice, ☺
09:07:47 <LindaGp> Kevin L™️ ☃️, yum, that would be worth it
09:09:11 <LindaGp> frozen
09:09:15 <LindaGp> back
09:09:28 <LindaGp> .06 fps
09:09:38 <LindaGp> .03 fps
09:09:46 <Lori S 🌨> what is ".06 fps"?
09:10:22 <LindaGp> frames per second
09:10:28 <Kevin L™️ > There is a feature down the Artemesia runoff channel that John Muller called the lobster pot.
09:10:59 <Lori S 🌨> LindaGp, oh my. Thought maybe it was a take off from FFS
09:11:11 <Kevin L™️ > It had red like a lobster color around it.
09:11:58 <LindaGp> so now it cleared
09:12:10 <Lori S 🌨> Kevin L™️ ☃️, That reminds me of a joke about how to catch a polar bear.
09:12:18 <LindaGp> can't help but think grand caused all thatbsteam
09:13:08 <LindaGp> or grotto
09:14:17 <Lori S 🌨> colorful coats on static
09:32:31 <LindaGp> my guess is grand went between 8 and 9 am. at around 8:10 I had a feeling but I couldn't be sure
09:35:21 <LindaGp> lion
09:40:44 <LindaGp> those ravens are having a feast
09:42:58 <LindaGp> bulger ie
09:46:19 <LindaGp> old tardy ie
09:46:30 <LindaGp> nice view
09:47:11 <Lori S 🌨> Steamy
09:50:14 <LindaGp> OF
09:50:19 <LindaGp> inthink
09:50:34 <LindaGp> maybe
09:50:49 <LindaGp> yup
09:51:45 <LindaGp> static has as 09:50
09:54:23 <LindaGp> I think long
09:55:54 <LindaGp> anybody k ow what's to left of LA?
09:56:17 <LindaGp> NOT LA...LS
09:56:55 <LindaGp> it's erupting whatever it is
09:57:48 <ynpvisitor111>
09:58:56 <ynpvisitor54> there is a geyser hill dot com? who knew
09:59:42 <Kevin L™️ > Am I going to need snow chains today?
09:59:43 <LindaGp> according to that LS is on left and silver on right. I've always thought the one on right was LS
09:59:49 <Ryan (desk)> I dont see it erupting, maybe cyclical boiling but I dont see water
10:00:53 <LindaGp> but isn't little one on right little squirt?
10:00:57 <ynpvisitor111> LS is the bigger one on the left where you usually see water
10:01:18 <LindaGp> ok
10:01:27 <Kevin L™️ > I am ready when you are
10:01:45 <LindaGp> controls released
10:01:45 <Ryan (desk)> Little Squirt is exactly what its name sounds like :)
10:01:53 <ynpvisitor66> Darn, thought it might be Giantess Indicator
10:02:02 <LindaGp> lol
10:02:32 <LindaGp> strange thisn snow is throwing me off visually
10:02:44 <ynpvisitor66> Oh, I forgot to nickname myself.
10:02:53 <Kevin L™️ > Got it
10:04:25 <ynpvisitor111> LS erupts ~ 15 times in a 24 hour period, hence GT will let there be only one GT primary in a 24 hour period
10:04:51 <LindaGp> that i know
10:05:03 <ynpvisitor111> one LS primary**
10:05:52 <Kevin L™️ > Looks like the bison is coming apart
10:06:29 <LindaG> Ravens are working on it
10:06:44 <Do It ToDy> Ravens be like "I thought you were bringing the grill."
10:07:00 <Ryan (desk)> 111, do you have a reference for that? "15 times in a 24hr period"?
10:08:00 <LindaG> Kevin L™️ 🥶, did you see my comment above about grand?
10:08:21 <Ryan (desk)> I dont think it has several eruptions, it just has a duration on the order of 12-24 hours.
10:09:15 <ynpvisitor111> Jake posted a chart that showed LS on a graph, but I do not remember the location of that graph
10:10:47 <Kevin L™️ > Yes Linda. Looks like another slow day which isn’t bad. I have two toddlers who want to “help” me run the cam.
10:10:57 <ynpvisitor111> the graph was from a time when they has a monitor on LS
10:11:01 <Ryan (desk)> I dont understand why GT would only keep one entry primary for a series of eruptions. It doesnt do that for Dome, Lion, Giantess, BSB, or Jet.
10:11:19 <Do It ToDy> Guess we will have to expect some view of the Lodge roof then.
10:12:44 <Ryan (desk)>
10:13:06 <Ryan (desk)> Yeah you can bring it up on GT. Little Squirt doesnt erupt in a series, it just has long pulsating eruptions.
10:14:03 <Kevin L™️ > Please pass the ketchup....
10:14:11 <Eric> Morning all
10:14:17 <Eric> interesting conversation about LS
10:14:30 <Lori S 🌨> Morning Eric
10:14:49 <Eric> So what is the technical difference between a lion series and an LS long "pulsing" eruption?
10:15:17 <Ryan (desk)> Looks like for some eruptions the logger records a steady overflow stream followed by a few low spots. 40C isnt low enough for it to not be erupting through. It just slows down cyclically while it ends its eruptions.
10:15:27 <ynpvisitor111> I don't know why they decided to do that on GT With LS, but to check that, post an LS then sometime later post another LS, then do it again within a 23 hour period, one will be P the others S
10:15:58 <Ryan (desk)> 111, thats because its typical duration is on the order of 12-18+ hours.
10:16:01 <ynpvisitor111> 24**
10:16:25 <Ryan (desk)> GT wont post separate times if they are too close together for any geyser with a known standard duration.
10:16:29 <Eric> I believe you :-D just wondering why a pool that erupts in series isn't considered a series when a cone that does the same thing is considered a series.
10:16:58 <Ryan (desk)> I dont think that was ever mentioned.
10:17:12 <Eric> Thanks Ryan...that does shed some light
10:17:21 <ynpvisitor111> thanks
10:17:47 <Ryan (desk)> FWIW when LS "pulses" it doesnt exactly stop.
10:18:16 <Eric> I have watched LS cycles, there is pretty clear definition in it's "eruptions".
10:18:36 <Ryan (desk)> Its like the restarts on F&M, Steamboat, and the huffing that Lion can do after its eruptions end. In the cases of Giant, F&M, etc the "end" of the eruption is dependent upon a type of restart.
10:18:38 <Ryan (desk)> F&M "ends
10:19:04 <Ryan (desk)> " with a restart that doesnt have any water. Giant "ends" when water hasnt come out of the front of the cone for more than 2 minutes.
10:19:25 <Eric> I would say any series geyser would fall into that classification, some you just can't see the activity to to structure.
10:19:32 <Eric> do to
10:19:36 <Eric> due to
10:19:40 <Eric> :-P
10:20:34 <Ryan (desk)> Eh, nah, in all cases those geyser pretty obviously havent stopped erupting. Lion, Jet, Giantess, etc are capapble of going completely quiet in between eruptions in their series.
10:21:28 <Eric> That is due to structure of the geyser...I bet you Lion is churning away internally.
10:21:41 <Eric> very differently than in-between series
10:21:52 <Eric> otherwise it would just be a typical cyclical geyser.
10:22:14 <Ryan (desk)> Eh, that no longer is the definition of a geyser then.
10:22:20 <ynpvisitor54> what's a "typical cyclical" geyser?
10:22:38 <ynpvisitor67> I see lion reports, no Hyenas or Jackals?
10:22:42 <Eric> Like OF having completely cyclical eruptions without a series.
10:22:54 <Kevin L™️ > Great point 67
10:22:58 <Ryan (desk)> A geyser is a type of hot spring, and hot springs require surface water discharge.
10:23:04 <Eric> Do we have models of series geysers like Lion?
10:23:40 <Eric> I know Clark and Jeff have modeled quite a few geysers.
10:23:50 <Ryan (desk)> If you have an eruption completely confined to the subsurface with no surface discharge then it doesnt really meet the definition of an "eruption". thats just cyclical boiling.
10:25:06 <Eric> But something causes a difference between the series portion of an eruption and the long rests. Either surface or subsurface
10:25:54 <Eric> It interesting and I am just trying to understand technical differences, not arguing we are doing anything wrong :-D
10:26:39 <ynpvisitor57> Predicting when a geyser will erupt, and physically modeling the geyser as to why its erupts either cyclical (OF) or in series (LION) is two different tasks
10:27:16 <Eric> Yep and I have no interest in the prediction part with my questions, just wondering about the series modeling
10:27:42 <ynpvisitor57> I did the Lion prediction last year, but with the new WC and potential for significant underreporting of events, no longer following..., just enjoying the moments
10:27:57 <Eric> Like is there really an internal difference between Lions activity and LS
10:28:16 <ynpvisitor54> Jeff has cataloged multiple types of series - something like 20 different series behaviors
10:28:21 <ynpvisitor57> For example, there should have been a Lion at about 8:10
10:28:41 <Eric> Nice, didn't realize he had modeled that many!
10:29:27 <Eric> Yep, I assume there was a missed Lion
10:29:56 <ynpvisitor57> Are you referring to 'Jeff in CT' or some other Jeff?
10:30:12 <Eric> a different Jeff
10:30:46 <ynpvisitor57> OK, thanks - I'll go back to lurking. Is there a place to read Jeff's Lion report
10:31:49 <Kevin L™️ > Aurum
10:31:54 <Kevin L™️ > .
10:31:55 <Kevin L™️ > .
10:32:02 <Eric> Transactions 11 has an article by Jeff that describes his model for a series geyser.
10:32:19 <Dave from B™> Must be Jeff Cross you are talking about
10:32:26 <Eric> :-D
10:32:41 <Eric> Nice capture Kevin
10:32:46 <Lori S 🌨> Kevin L™️ 🥶 got an Aurum!
10:32:53 <ynpvisitor54> Ask on the google group - it would be an interesting conversation
10:33:55 <Kevin L™️ > Lion
10:34:12 <Eric> Lion tryin
10:34:29 <Eric> there it goes
10:34:31 <Eric> I guess
10:37:04 <Rice> Eric, your get video command work great for me to see the Aurum I just missed, Thanks
10:38:00 <JarnoO> morning all
10:38:18 <Lori S 🌨> Morning JarnoO
10:38:45 <LindaG> King ofbthenhill
10:38:57 <Eric> Sweet, glad it worked Rice!
10:38:58 <LindaG> *of the hill
10:39:03 <JarnoO> 4 Castle majors in a row? Are we sure we didn't miss a minor? :P
10:40:40 <Kevin L™️ > Have the coyotes been around today?
10:40:50 <Ryan (desk)> Eric I think there is a substantial difference in what causes a geyser to be cyclical or in a series.
10:41:19 <Ryan (desk)> First off, the term "series" refers purely to its statistical behavior.
10:42:04 <Ryan (desk)> As it its physical behavior I think you have three styles of series behavior.
10:42:05 <Kevin L™️ > Trying to reverse engineer a geyser?
10:42:19 <Eric> :-D
10:42:33 <Eric> Jeff Cross has reverse engineered many geysers Kevin :-P
10:42:55 <Eric> I need to read more transactions!
10:43:18 <Ryan (desk)> The first is one like Lion Geyser where you have a sudden initial eruption followed by smaller follow ups. In this case I'd assume you'd have some kind of system where its stabel until the initial eruption occurs and then you have repeated follow ups as the system expels heat and water until it cant erupt anymore.
10:43:39 <JarnoO> USGS recently somewhat reverse-engineered OF with their seismo array. Fun to read through the Caldera Chronicle covering that
10:43:56 <Kevin L™️ > Sort of like trying to locate all the buried utilities in a road.
10:44:13 <Eric> Is there a series geyser thats initial is smaller than the followup eruptions?
10:44:32 <Eric> eruptions grow until they blow :-P
10:44:39 <JarnoO> Atomizer?
10:44:42 <Ryan (desk)> The second is for geysers like Atomizer and Lone Star where a series of progressively stronger minor eruptions build into a major which ends the series. In this case I'd assume you have some form of system where the geyser is already having cyclical eruptions, probably with ever increasing levels of heat, until a threshold is reached and the system has one large eruption which resets itself.
10:44:54 <Eric> oh right, atomizer and lone star!
10:44:56 <Eric> Good call
10:45:12 <Lori S 🌨> Ryan (desk), Steamboat ?
10:45:13 <Kevin L™️ > If you count bursts on Grand as a series.
10:46:07 <Lori S 🌨> "some form of system where the geyser is already having cyclical eruptions, probably with ever increasing levels of heat, until a threshold is reached and the system has one large eruption which resets itself." = Steamboat no?
10:46:48 <Eric> but I don't think the minors have any periodicity Lori
10:46:59 <Eric> Which would seem to be necessary for it to be a series.
10:47:20 <Lori S 🌨> Eric, periodicity ?
10:47:50 <Eric> being at regular intervals.
10:47:59 <Ryan (desk)> The third is for a geyser like Beehive's South Bubbler or Morning's Thief, where a secondary system (Beehive or the Fountain Complex, respectively) causes water and heat to enter the subsurface system such that those geyser erupt regularly while the nearby feature is in its own cycles.
10:48:02 <Lori S 🌨> Eric, hmmm
10:48:18 <JarnoO> not sure as to if it is possible to classify the Boat in any series category. Well, perhaps very long-term cyclic active periods but that's about as far as you can go
10:48:30 <Ryan (desk)> And no, I dont think Steamboat minors are actually eruptions. Its just giant preplay
10:48:53 <JarnoO> the minors leading up to a major could be comparable to what OF does leading up to an eruption
10:49:16 <JarnoO> what Ryan said, thus
10:49:17 <Eric> Interesting on your 3rd classification Ryan...not sure I follow on how that is a series.
10:49:48 <Ryan (desk)> BSB has a series of eruptions around the time of Beehive. It only does so because of the water and heat building into the Beehive system.
10:50:08 <Ryan (desk)> The water and heat does not exist for BSB to have eruptions independently of Beehive's larger cycles.
10:50:26 <JarnoO> So does that mean Vault would fall in the third category most of the times?
10:50:31 <Eric> Yep, systems can build energy internally or externally, but if they do it by releasing water vertically at regular intervals, we classify it as a series geyser.
10:50:50 <Ryan (desk)> Simialr features include South Grotto Fountain, Vault, Morning's Theif, and possibly North Goggles.
10:51:17 <JarnoO> well, that answered that :P
10:51:48 <Eric> Hmmmm, wonder if there have been any transaction or sput articles on the definitions and classifications of series geysers, it would be really interesting as an article Ryan :-D
10:52:02 <Ryan (desk)> Then there the random ones that are hard to classify: Cascade, Opal Spring, etc.
10:52:06 <Eric> I like your thinking :-D
10:52:18 <Ryan (desk)> Oval Spring in the Sawmill Group was a good example of the 3rd type.
10:52:43 <Ryan (desk)> It would erupt every 10-15min in a series but onloy when the complex had a certain setup to it.
10:52:53 <JarnoO> oh yeah, Sawmill... *sniff sniff*
10:53:22 <JarnoO> Churn would also fit in the 3rd category, no?
10:53:25 <Eric> series dependant on other visible geyser activity.
10:54:33 <Eric> but I am not sure you could classify BSB as a does have eruptions that seem to relate. But I think you might be able to make a case against them being a series too.
10:54:47 <Eric> plate?
10:54:59 <Eric> or was that just dragon spring
10:55:07 <Ryan (desk)> I think the difference between a cyclic-series geyser and one with bursts is just pure statistics. Grand, Plume, Great Fountain, Steamboat, Fan and Mortar, and a couple others all have the ability to completely stop erupting between bursts or restarts. But the intervals between restarts are typically far shorter than the duration of the restarts.
10:56:05 <ynpvisitor67> So Steamboat could be a series geyser? It has long rests and then active periods of regular eruptions.
10:56:13 <Ryan (desk)> Grand, however, doesnt drain if theres gonna be another burst.
10:56:28 <JarnoO> How would one classify the geysers in the Kaleidoscope group? :)
10:56:51 <Ryan (desk)> Yes, I'd put SB in the 3rd category. I'd also but BSB in the third category as well when it has its series of eruptions 10min apart.
10:57:12 <Ryan (desk)> Kaleidoscope would be in the 1st group, and KLD-13 in the second.
10:58:01 <Kevin L™️ > I can see Ryan taking T Scott’s place in the future.
10:58:42 <Ryan (desk)> Its just the style in which they progress: the first group progresses in the size of its eruptions and the second is regressive in size. The third requires a dependent connection with a larger system.
10:59:08 <Dave from B™> Very interesting conversation everyone
10:59:32 <Ryan (desk)> I can't currently think of a geyser that has a series of eruptions with no distinct progression in its size of eruptions AND is not dependently connected to something to initiate the series.
10:59:36 <ynpvisitor67> What would SB's connection to a larger system be?
11:00:14 <Ryan (desk)> Whatever system allows it to have these long term active cycles. Just like a Morning series requires a specific balance within the Fountain complex.
11:00:52 <JarnoO> so one could say quite some geysers of the Kaleidoscopes fall in category 3 (as I recall most of them are connected with eachother one way or another), with the individual geysers falling in either category 1 or 2?
11:01:15 <ynpvisitor67> Maybe solar activity? I hear we are in some kind of solar cycle that is about to end.
11:01:24 <Ryan (desk)> Yeah you can have a geyser be in more than one category, JarnoO
11:01:33 <JarnoO> excellent, thanks
11:02:03 <Ryan (desk)> It can be dependent on another system (3) but then have its own cyclical-series because of it (1 or 2). Gemini Geyser would be a good example.
11:02:04 <Kevin L™️ > Does a full moon affect a geyser?
11:03:26 <Ryan (desk)> The "?" comes in when you start to look at geysers with longer term or erratic active phases like Splendid, Morning, Steamboat, Excelsior, or Giant.
11:04:01 <Ryan (desk)> IMO those are (statistically and physically) all in the 3rd category. They have a series of eruptions that are dependent on a larger complex system.
11:04:22 <JarnoO> isn't it theorized that some Splendid series can be initiated by a pressure drop?
11:04:33 <JarnoO> air pressure drop, that is
11:04:50 <Ryan (desk)> Yeah, but I think the Daisy complex needs to be highly energized first.
11:05:14 <Ryan (desk)> With Diasy having extremely frequent and regular intervals, and Bonita Pool not overflowing.
11:05:39 <Kevin L™️ > Every time I have seen Splendid the barometer was low.
11:06:06 <Ryan (desk)> Only then can Splendid erupt and only then can the pressure drop trigger it. When Daisy is having long intervals I dont think Splendid is posisble to start an active series.
11:06:35 <Ryan (desk)> Link and Union also exhibit the third style of series.
11:07:50 <JarnoO> it does seem Daisy really wants to go below 2h. Might be that we've made it across a 'bump' of near-3h intervals
11:07:53 <Dave from B™> Union would be a fun geyser to watch
11:11:13 <Ryan (desk)> Everything I just said is my opinion and my own. Others have their classifications.
11:11:21 <Ryan (desk)> I just vocalize mine. :D
11:11:42 <JarnoO> I actually quite like your series classification
11:11:58 <Kevin L™️ > Will they cause earthquakes?
11:12:05 <JarnoO> to me it seems well-thought out
11:13:01 <Ryan (desk)> Have you ever felt the start of Artemisia or Oblong? Do those count as local EQs? :lol:
11:13:22 <Kevin L™️ > Sure would
11:13:42 <Kevin L™️ > Even Doublet
11:14:02 <Ryan (desk)> I mean, I'd argue that SB makes local harmonic tremors.
11:14:10 <Ryan (desk)> The ground shakes, along with everything else.
11:15:10 <JarnoO> Giantess also causes EQs :)
11:15:41 <JarnoO> it just needs to go, "that's all"
11:16:31 <Kevin L™️ > I have been on the hill for a Giantess start. It makes impressive thumps
11:18:35 <ynpvisitor67> Shaking ground is not an earth quake. Tremor maybe.
11:18:41 <Dave from B™> Kevin, are Giantess or Artemesia thumps louder?
11:18:57 <Kevin L™️ > Giantess
11:19:16 <ynpvisitor67> Time to paint, enjoy.
11:19:42 <JarnoO> cya #67. Don't get any over yourself, good luck
11:19:58 <Ryan (desk)>
11:20:00 <JarnoO> OF
11:20:06 <Kevin L™️ > In the old days you could watch Artemesia at the base of the wall. Very strong thumps there
11:22:29 <Kevin L™️ > So how does Split Cone classify Ryan?
11:24:06 <Kevin L™️ > Controls down
11:24:12 <Dave from B™> Little Cub also erupts in series
11:24:48 <Dave from B™> Some eruptions are larger than others
11:27:47 <JarnoO> SC may be a weak category 3. It can erupt at any time, but it did look much stronger if it started an eruption in the last 15 to 10-ish minutes before OF than after OF had erupted in 2018. SC might actually share some characteristics with Gizmo in that regard.
11:44:06 <Dave from B™> Off to get my ears lowered. Time for something
11:44:32 <Kevin L™️ > Time for a new cam.
11:44:48 <JarnoO> cya Dave
11:45:12 <Lori S 🌨> Dave from B™, Don't go to Great Clips :)
11:49:07 <Kevin L™️ > Well I got controls back but only updates every 5 to 10 seconds.
11:49:26 <JarnoO> :(
12:04:22 <Betty> hi all
12:04:31 <Kevin L™️ > Hi
12:04:40 <Betty> evin
12:04:52 <Betty> hi Kevin
12:04:56 <Betty> ???
12:05:12 <Betty> I d
12:05:31 <Betty> I need a Dave keyboard...
12:05:32 <Kevin L™️ > It fits the cam today Betty
12:07:48 <Eric> Hi Betty
12:08:51 <Betty> hi Eric
12:09:17 <Betty> carcass is already in pieces?
12:09:58 <Betty> or ravens?
12:10:51 <Kevin L™️ > Trying to get there
12:13:18 <Betty> I think it will be eaten by ravens only
12:13:33 <Kevin L™️ > Series of stills
12:16:25 <Eric> hmm, that carcass looks like it's been moved!
12:16:36 <Eric> ohh, those are all ravens :-P
12:17:24 <Kevin L™️ > Raven’s Bisicle Buffet ™️
12:46:24 <Betty> seems Lion or BH ie
12:46:41 <Betty> steam from left on static
12:47:11 <Kevin L™️ > Nope
12:47:33 <Betty> you have a view?
12:48:10 <Kevin L™️ > Yes but only once every 5 seconds or so
12:48:24 <Betty> ok
12:49:55 <Kevin L™️ > No more view now
12:51:23 <Betty> sigh
12:53:49 <Betty> OF
12:54:42 <Dave from B™> Did I miss anything?
12:58:30 <Betty> hi Dave. Do you ship your keyboards?
12:59:58 <Dave from B™> I have a couple extras laying around:)
13:32:26 <Do It ToDy> Actual photo of Dave's best keyboards:
13:33:14 <Lori S 🌨> :p
13:33:28 <Dave from B™> hahahaha. Yep. You never know when you might need an "E"
13:40:08 <Kevin L™️ > Where are the fish scales?
13:40:37 <Dave from B™> Stuck between the keys
13:42:20 <Kevin L™️ > Do you use fish oil to lubricate them?
13:46:13 <Dave from B™> Just 4 times a year
13:47:04 <Kevin L™️ > And if they get sick you use cod liver oil?
13:54:19 <Lori S 🌨> Kevin L™️ 🥶, Saw a meme on facebook yesterday: People that raise chickens are "chicken tenders." :p Thought of you
13:55:24 <Lori S 🌨> Do you suppose that carcass is full of worms and bugs and yummy things like that?
13:55:37 <Lori S 🌨> Or no bugs in winter?
13:56:40 <Kevin L™️ > I think it would be too hard for worms.
13:56:48 <Betty> hi Lori
13:56:59 <Lori S 🌨> Hi Betty
14:01:21 <Kevin L™️ > Grand
14:01:22 <Kevin L™️ > .
14:01:23 <Kevin L™️ > .
14:01:24 <Kevin L™️ > .
14:01:34 <JarnoO> woohoo
14:01:53 <Betty> evening JarnoO
14:02:00 <JarnoO> evening Betty
14:02:43 <JarnoO> is it me or is Oblong steamier than usual?
14:02:59 <JarnoO> Oblong
14:03:08 <JarnoO> .
14:03:09 <JarnoO> .
14:03:09 <JarnoO> .
14:03:10 <Kevin L™️ > It looks ie
14:03:23 <Ryan (meeting)> Thats cool. Havent seen that in a while.
14:03:26 <Dave from B™> Yep, it looks steamier than usual:)
14:03:29 <Do It ToDy> Good cool dual.
14:03:37 <Lori S 🌨> WAHOO
14:03:41 <Ryan (meeting)> Add Oblong to the list for type 2 series.
14:04:02 <Dave from B™> Really?
14:04:04 <Betty> pretty dual
14:04:18 <Ryan (meeting)> Its uncommon but it does happen. It can have follow up eruptions from an empty crater.
14:04:33 <Ryan (meeting)> I saw one series in 2014, spaced about 45min apart, 3 eruptions. Really cool.
14:04:42 <JarnoO> that's right, yeah
14:04:47 <Dave from B™> I thought you meant all the time...yes, I've seen those on the cam
14:04:48 <Ryan (meeting)> Some years its pretty common actually.
14:04:54 <JarnoO> had to come from my big toe, but it can do series
14:05:39 <JarnoO> Same would go for Aurum - category 1 I believe
14:06:29 <Ryan (meeting)> Knobby in Shoshone, Frill Geyser, and Minute Man are ones that wouild ahve to fall into a type 4 - eruptions in a series with no discernable trend in size.
14:06:37 <Ryan (meeting)> I knew there had to be some.
14:07:28 <Ryan (meeting)> Knobby can have major and minor eruptions, but I dont think it starts/ends series in some. Minute Man's eruptions can get larger over a series but not hugely so.
14:07:41 <Ryan (meeting)> I think Frill has no changes in its eruptions.
14:07:42 <JarnoO> and Jet - would that be category 3 & 4?
14:07:47 <Ryan (meeting)> 3
14:08:00 <Ryan (meeting)> Those three in Shoshone do their activity independently.
14:08:09 <Ryan (meeting)> Ehhhhhhh I lied. Knobby is a 3.
14:08:29 <Ryan (meeting)> Small Geyser overflows into Knobby. When small is overflowing and pouring cold water into Knobby, Knobby wont erupt.
14:09:17 <Kevin L™️ > 8 m
14:09:25 <Ryan (meeting)> Minute Man and Frill are totally number 4s though.
14:10:14 <Ryan (meeting)> If anyone else can think of others in a cat 4 I'd be game to listen. Id suggest changing numbers - swap cat 3 and 4.
14:10:46 <Ryan (meeting)> 1 - Regressive series. 2 - Progress series, 3 - neutral series, 4 - series dependent on environmental factors.
14:11:23 <JarnoO> I'm very uneducated on Jet, but isn't it that Jet does series in which it has the occasional minor, but otherwise reaches the ~same heights even though the intervals decrease and increase as it goes along?
14:11:41 <Kevin L™️ > How about those that only go when nobody is looking?
14:11:58 <Ryan (meeting)> And id change the classes into overall intensity of activity. Ie: intervals that stretch out with eruptions of the same size would be regressive.
14:12:07 <Dave from B™> Kevin, you're talking about Aurum?:)
14:12:17 <Ryan (meeting)> Intervals that shorten would be progressive, etc.
14:12:22 <Kevin L™️ > That would fit
14:13:11 <Lori S 🌨> Kevin L™️ 🥶, OR Indigo Spring
14:15:22 <ynpvisitor33> what would be an example of a neutral series?
14:15:32 <JarnoO> So that'd mean Union would fall in category 4 and 1 - it's activity depends on envionmental factors and in series, although it reaches the same heights, it's intervals get progressively longer and the overall duration is somewhat shorter each time
14:15:47 <JarnoO> its*
14:16:09 <JarnoO> Bulger major
14:16:39 <Dave from B™> Excellent topic, Ryan. Has this ever been discussed in a published document?
14:16:58 <ynpvisitor33> it would be nice to have
14:17:59 <JarnoO> I recall there was a Transactions article in which the author and co. made model geysers. I remember at least one or two exhibited series behavior. Not sure which Transactions it was, though
14:19:05 <Ryan (meeting)> I dont think theres a published article on it. I'd be interested in writing it up but it needs to be peer reviewed.
14:19:53 <Ryan (meeting)> Out for the evening. Later all.
14:20:02 <JarnoO> cya Ryan
14:20:02 <ynpvisitor33> cya
14:20:04 <Betty> bye Ryan
14:20:05 <Dave from B™> This gives me a whole different perspective on geysers that erupt in series. Thanks Ryan
14:20:39 <Lori S 🌨> Night Ryan (meeting)
14:21:20 <Dave from B™> I'm shocked the ravens are king of the carcass today
14:22:22 <Kevin L™️ > I think they are the only things that can make a dent in it.
14:23:37 <Dave from B™> Where has Graham been?
14:34:48 <JarnoO> Riverside ie
14:40:27 <Betty> time to head out, night all
14:40:34 <JarnoO> cya Betty
14:40:47 <Kevin L™️ > Good knight
14:41:31 <Dave from B™> nite Betty
14:44:56 <Kevin L™️ > I wish you would quit breaking the cam Dave.
14:45:43 <Kat> :lol:
14:51:14 <Kat> I'm on this evening - is this cam going to drive me crazy????
14:51:31 <Kevin L™️ > Yes
14:52:45 <Kat> Noooooooo - see you at 4 unless you want to keep it LOL
14:53:49 <Kevin L™️ > It is about to drive me nuts
14:55:01 <Kat> Riverside
14:55:53 <Kevin L™️ > Been ie for a while
14:56:00 <JarnoO> Kat, FYI, Riverside was already ie @ 1434
14:56:26 <Dave from B™> Kevin, how has cam been running it on a Ipad?
14:56:29 <Kat> Sorry - just saw that
14:56:32 <Kevin L™️ > Been trying for Daisy
14:57:24 <Kevin L™️ > I am using a laptop. Doing chat on the iPad though
14:58:08 <Kevin L™️ > Been a bit different especially with my 2 toddler “helpers”.
14:58:20 <Kat> OK - Riverside wasn't posted when I first looked at it :)
14:58:40 <Kat> Hahaha Kevin L™️ 🥶,
14:59:39 <Kat> be back in a few Kevin
15:00:27 <Kevin L™️ > OK
15:04:44 <Eric> is sucking it today :-(
15:05:07 <Eric> Maybe someone can wander over to the ranger station and reboot the router?
15:05:32 <Kevin L™️ > They did that
15:09:20 <Eric> hmmm, guess it didn't work :-(
15:09:48 <Kevin L™️ > For about 10m
15:12:54 <Kevin L™️ > I think we have a Daisy
15:15:24 <LindaG> Ok I'm here, the cam will start working now
15:15:53 <LindaG> No really cam, start working, dont make me look stupid
15:16:07 <LindaG> Hmmmm
15:16:26 <Kevin L™️ > Needs tannerite
15:16:35 <LindaG> 😃
15:17:20 <Kevin L™️ > Controls died too but I did get Daisy
15:18:09 <LindaG> Probably as pack of wolves out there eating carcass
15:19:03 <Kevin L™️ > While a grizzly chases them off
15:19:24 <LindaG> Yup 😃
15:20:59 <LindaG> It moved a little
15:22:30 <LindaG> One frame per minute lol
15:23:43 <Joe> The cam has failed 304 times today so far :(
15:23:49 <Kevin L™️ > Been a frustrating day
15:24:03 <LindaG> Wow
15:24:10 <Kat> oh no
15:24:12 <Kevin L™️ > Did get a Grand Oblong dual
15:24:21 <LindaG> Oh nice
15:24:27 <Joe> nice
15:25:04 <LindaG> Any coyotes?
15:25:31 <Kevin L™️ > That kind of makes up for it. Only ravens.
15:30:32 <LindaG> Ravens in groups are called either an unkindness or conspiracy of ravens.
15:31:39 <Kevin L™️ > Like brothers at a dinner table.
15:33:35 <Dave from B™> haha Kevin
15:33:55 <Dave from B™> I like conspiracy better than unkindness
15:34:07 <Dave from B™> There are smart enough for conspiracies
15:34:17 <LindaG> Dave from B™, me too
15:37:36 <Kevin L™️ > They probably broke the cam because they don’t want us spying on them.
15:38:14 <LindaG> They are dismantling the radios as we speak
15:52:15 <Dave from B™> Time to get out of Dodge. Have a great evening everyone!
15:52:36 <Kat> You too
15:52:44 <LindaG> Dave from B™, night
15:52:55 <Kevin L™️ > Watch for deer
15:52:56 <LindaG> Kat, hi
15:53:41 <Kevin L™️ > It’s alive!
15:54:07 <LindaG> Sure if comes up for OF
15:54:45 <Kevin L™️ > It could die before OF
15:56:21 <Kat> Hi Linda ans all
15:56:27 <Kat> and*
15:59:35 <Kevin L™️ > Controls released
15:59:49 <Kevin L™️ > Good luck
16:01:09 <Kat> Hi all
16:01:52 <Kat> Oh - this should be fun!! ;)
16:09:44 <Kat> OF 1608 on static
16:10:43 <Kevin L™️ > Tail end of the window
16:18:05 <Kat> OT
16:23:19 <Kevin L™️ > You killed it
16:24:45 <Kat> What - the cam??
16:25:40 <Kat> I resuscitated it
16:27:44 <Kat> Carcass is opened up wide - plenty left. I think we have company late into the nights
16:29:24 <ynpvisitor43> So did bee go overnight?
16:30:07 <Kat> looks like it - around 2200 last night
16:30:13 <ynpvisitor43> Oh, I see it went just before 2200
16:30:16 <ynpvisitor43> ok
16:34:36 <LindaG> Yup it waited for joe
16:36:11 <Kat> :)
16:41:54 <Kat> Down.....
17:08:05 <Kat> LS acive
17:08:12 <Kat> active*
17:19:18 <Kat> Daisy ie
17:36:21 <Eric> Cam has been stable over a 1/2 hour!
17:36:33 <Eric> Guess Kevin finally stopped watching :-P
17:36:59 <Eric> I actually wonder if admin connect up to it and forget to disconnect, sucking up too much bandwidth and causing the issues.
17:37:06 <Eric> OF
17:37:53 <Kat> It's my magic touch Eric!
17:39:09 <Kat> Nice water to view!
17:59:56 <Lori S 🥱> Castle steam
18:00:59 <Lori S 🥱> just a big puff and poof
18:05:04 <Kat> :)
18:05:34 <Kat> Looks like Artty
18:06:40 <GO STEAMBOAT> Hello, did i miss.anything?
18:06:55 <Lori S 🥱> Hi Graham
18:07:12 <Lori S 🥱> steam. you missed some steam
18:07:29 <Kat> Hey Graham - how are things. You missed the bison carcass and coyotes on it
18:07:38 <GO STEAMBOAT> Ah, sorry i couldnt be here to enjoy it
18:07:55 <GO STEAMBOAT> Is it still there? No wolves?
18:08:02 <Kat> Carcass on view now on the right in meadow
18:08:17 <Lori S 🥱> No wolves
18:08:34 <Kat> No wolves unless they came in at night
18:08:40 <GO STEAMBOAT> I watched the video, just not inline to watch at the moment. Will likely need help for cam on Sat and next week. Dont know yet
18:08:49 <Lori S 🥱> Mostly ravens and a coyote. 2nd coyote last night brief;y
18:09:11 <Kat> OK - we will pitch in.
18:10:08 <Lori S 🥱> coyote back at carcass or is that raven?
18:10:18 <Kat> Raven
18:10:23 <GO STEAMBOAT> Thanks, i may be able to be online a bit Sat but its hard for me to concentrate on the cam
18:10:56 <Kat> Then someone should take it. Want me to send a message out?
18:10:59 <Lori S 🥱> coyote
18:11:22 <GO STEAMBOAT> I will send a message, i can still do that :)
18:11:36 <Lori S 🥱> Everything OK Graham?
18:11:54 <Lori S 🥱> Thx for the zoom!
18:12:06 <Kat> Sure Graham and Lori LOL
18:15:03 <Kat> I'm headed off now, have a good evening all
18:15:27 <Lori S 🥱> Night Kat. Thx
18:15:34 <Kat> Night
22:13:06 <Michael> Thanks for trying to keep an eye everywhere in the basin. Hope it pays off soon.
22:34:06 <Michael> Lion probably thought it could hide in the OF window...
22:36:42 <ynpvisitor28> Climb fluffy
22:37:33 <Michael> Poof!
22:38:11 <ynpvisitor28> I am still curious as to why all of the lights are on in the dining room portion of the Lodge
22:39:02 <ynpvisitor28> That is a lot of lights, affects the lack of dark skies, plus uses a lot of electricity
22:39:09 <Michael> That's a really good question.
22:39:57 <ynpvisitor28> I noticed even this summer there were very few nights when the lights (or at least part of the lights) were turned off at night
22:40:58 <ynpvisitor28> And unless things have changed, that building isn't even open during the winter season
22:44:42 <ynpvisitor28> I am calling it a night
22:44:57 <ynpvisitor28> We shall see if bee responds like it did yesterday
22:45:07 <ynpvisitor28> it erupted 30 minutes after I left
22:45:15 <ynpvisitor28> night
22:45:29 <Michael> Night, 28.
23:14:49 <ynpvisitor94> I guess I can hang out for a few to see the bees swarm.
23:15:30 <ynpvisitor94> Even if it does not look promising.
23:16:27 <Michael> I'm in the mood for a surprise Beehive.
23:17:35 <ynpvisitor94> Bees are always welcome, not like their cousins yellow jackets.
23:19:39 <ynpvisitor94> Wow, they are distant cousins.
23:21:02 <ynpvisitor94> Are we ready for lion, or is it kaput?
23:22:30 <Michael> We'll find out what Lion wants to do in 10-20 minutes.
23:23:11 <ynpvisitor94> Thanks, my calculator is not working well, other processes running.
23:43:15 <ynpvisitor94> Lion looks like it is trying
23:51:32 <Michael> teasing us some more.
23:51:37 <ynpvisitor94> Roar or hiccup?
23:52:00 <Michael> no idea.
23:52:21 <ynpvisitor94> burp
23:53:01 <ynpvisitor94> Must be a reaction to the frozen bison.
23:57:05 <Michael> I need to sneak off to bed before anything else's window opens.
23:57:12 <Michael> Good night.
23:57:26 <ynpvisitor94> Steamy dreams
23:57:34 <ynpvisitor94> can we say tht here?
23:58:15 <Michael> I think so. Especially after hours.
23:58:43 <ynpvisitor94> Looks like punp, so safe to go
23:59:26 <ynpvisitor94> me go to