Showing logs for date: 2020-03-16
03:29:47 <ynpvisitor55> nice flow spike at tantalus creek
07:15:59 <Kat> Washburn views are awesome!
07:24:44 <Kat> Split Cone
07:25:45 <Joe> Last OF 0616:35ish to late 0618ish
07:26:48 <Kat> Did I miss it??
07:27:06 <Joe> At least that is what it looked like
07:27:18 <Joe> no not missed
07:28:13 <Joe> there it is
07:28:17 <ynpvisitor18> OF
07:28:18 <Joe> !!
07:28:25 <Kat> OF 0728
07:29:41 <JarnoO> morning all
07:32:07 <Ryan(-172)> Morning
07:53:05 <LindaG> good morning all
07:53:10 <JarnoO> morning Dave, Kevin, Linda
07:53:17 <LindaG> JarnoO, hi
07:53:49 <Dave from B™> Morning everyone
07:56:14 <LindaG> Dave from B™, hi
07:56:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Morning
08:00:22 <Dave from B™> Happy 88th to SB
08:00:58 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is now a piano!
08:01:20 <JarnoO> morning Terry
08:01:42 <Ryan(-172)> 100 will be quite fun, if it happens
08:02:16 <Dave from B™> Yep....When we get to 95, we'll have to start a contest to guess 100
08:03:07 <Dave from B™> FYI, currently, we are on pace for 39 eruptions this year....but that doesn't include a D which will surely be here at some point this year
08:16:15 <LindaG> hi kat
08:19:31 <JarnoO> morning Mike
08:19:58 <Mike J> Good morning to all. Hope everyone is keeping squeaky clean.
08:21:21 <LindaG> squeak squeak
08:21:34 <LindaG>
08:21:46 <Mike J> Seems some mice have snuck in
08:22:18 <LindaG> 🙄
08:22:42 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sounds like a few of my doors.
08:23:13 <LindaG> haha mine too
08:25:48 <JarnoO> morning Jimbo. Giving elements with single letters a shot?
08:27:29 <Kat> LindaG, Hi Linda!
08:32:45 <Katie> Hi, all.
08:33:42 <JarnoO> morning all
08:59:16 <Dave from B™> I'm too busy to keep up to date....can someone please tell me if they hear anything new today regarding the CDC...thanks in advance
08:59:54 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Last I heard the Earth was still spinning.
09:02:21 <Dave from B™> That's about it
09:05:39 <JarnoO> morning kc
09:06:57 <JarnoO> morning other Kevin
09:07:25 <KevinS> Good morning to all
09:07:34 <kc (working)> mornin
09:09:20 <ynpvisitor66> Dave from B™, newest thing from the CDC is not having any gatherings over 50 people forthe next 8 weeks
09:09:21 <JarnoO> nice Caldera Chronicles this week on how gas emissions could be used to predict an eruption:
09:10:47 <Dave from B™> Thanks, 66. That is "old" news from yesterday. Another annoucement was due out today....have a feeling bars and restaurants may be closing in all 50 soon.
09:12:03 <ynpvisitor66> crazy
09:12:32 <Rice> I run a feed mill for dairy cows, we can't close.
09:13:09 <Dave from B™> Yep....being in the food business has its "perks"
09:13:39 <Rice> Is seafood an essential business?
09:14:04 <Dave from B™> We sell fish less expensive than any other type of protein
09:14:20 <Rice> Dave from B™, we might be the only two working.
09:14:46 <Dave from B™> Now, will reataurants be able to pay their bills...that's another whole subject
09:15:32 <Rice> Or the dairy farmers.
09:18:17 <KevinS> I am a food buyer. Plenty of work for me.
09:18:39 <Dave from B™> KevinS, food buyer for who?
09:45:03 <ynpvisitor39> glaucomavision
09:59:50 <VforVictory> JarnoO, I B HeRe
10:04:57 <JarnoO> :)
10:10:35 <Eric> Morning all
10:10:59 <JarnoO> morning Eric
10:11:16 <Katie> Hi Eric
10:14:06 <Eric> Hi Jarno & Katie
10:15:17 <Eric> My virus safe socializing group :-D
10:15:53 <Katie> :)
10:17:38 <Katie> At least visibility is improving...
10:18:18 <LindaG> hi all
10:18:32 <Katie> Hi, Linda.
10:18:57 <LindaG> Katie, hi
10:21:08 <KevinS> Sorry Dave from B, my Verizon connection failed. We sell to state and federal institutions.
10:21:23 <Eric> Hi Linda
10:21:42 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Kevin. That sounds like too much paperwork for me
10:21:47 <Dave from B™> Hi Eric
10:22:46 <KevinS> It is that for sales. I deal with manufacturers.
10:22:52 <Eric> Hi Dave...hope you guys are doing ok
10:23:27 <Eric> Jarno...are you in lockdown in your area?
10:26:35 <Dave from B™> Eric, too many Republicans in MT who are believing the president instead of CDC about the virus...Still not sure if I'm replacing employee who is leaving Friday.
10:27:17 <ynpvisitor17> Mt is still virus free arent you?
10:28:04 <Katie> Last I heard, we had 6 known cases in MT - of course that means we have more as yet unknown cases.
10:28:12 <LindaG> Ny, NJ and CT are in lockdown as of 8pm tonight
10:28:13 <Eric> Consider no place virus free in the world
10:28:37 <Eric> Even tiny islands off the coast of madagascar have cases!
10:28:46 <ynpvisitor17> And wat is so different about the cold versus the flu? This is a bad cold, however the swine flu killed many more people, most were healthy family aged adults.
10:29:08 <Eric> 17...your ignorance is dangerous
10:29:37 <ynpvisitor17> Last i looke dthey do dnot even know how many died from the flu, someplace int he 100's of thousands to maybe a million.
10:30:00 <ynpvisitor17> Eric educate me. Swine flu was much worse
10:32:43 <ynpvisitor17> New Zealand and some close islands are technically free. NZ has 1 case and that was a visitor they quarantined, unless something changed.
10:32:45 <ynpvisitor39> mortality rates are much higher than the flu especially for the older and more vulnerable.the rate of transmission is much higher than the flu
10:33:36 <Rice> My concern is we all hide from this, and when we come out we still get sick, with no immunity what good is hiding doing?
10:33:51 <ynpvisitor39> mortality in italy and china seems linked to smoking/poor health
10:34:06 <Rice> 1 person still sick, will keep spreading it.
10:34:12 <ynpvisitor17> Considering the people that have no symptoms, I am not sure history will prove that to be correct.
10:34:18 <ynpvisitor39> unknown what it might do in an obese and diabetic USA
10:34:51 <ynpvisitor39> the immediate concern is not overwhelming the hospital system with so many severe cases at once
10:34:52 <Eric> The basic thing you need to know is that the mortality rate of Covid-19 is 20-30 times that of the flu...if we let this thing spread like the flue, millions of people will die in the US alone! Not some measly 10k!
10:34:53 <Katie> I've been concerned that St. Patrick's Day in Butte would be a spark in a powder keg for Montana. I applauded when the parade was finally cancelled. Today, the owner of the M&M Bar (biggest bar - ground central) just announced she will close today & tomorrow to prevent gathering of more than 50 at her venue.
10:35:20 <Katie> She is giving up her biggest day of the year, doing the right thing. I applaud her.
10:36:31 <Eric> Rice, we are not hiding, we are distancing ourselves to slow the spread so hospitals and medical personel do not become overwhelmed and cannot treat people who need it!
10:37:13 <Eric> This virus has an exponential curve of growth which is showing in italy and already showed in China.
10:37:31 <ynpvisitor17> The restaurant closure says they can serve take out, and do deliveries. So you can stand in line in NY outside your favorite deli, or have some drippy nose kid come deliver food to you.
10:38:05 <Eric> People are not shutting stuff down willy nilly...this is costing our economy trillions of dollars!
10:38:09 <Ben VL> Most people are distancing anyway. I think some people are hiding
10:38:39 <ynpvisitor17> The ones hording toilet paper and noodles.
10:38:39 <Eric> hiding/distancing...can be the same thing :-D
10:39:20 <Eric> I don't think people are really hording...they are just planning on not going to the grocery for 30 days or more. You get everyone doing that at once, and it cleans out the supply chain.
10:39:32 <Eric> I am sure some people are...but they are assholes.
10:39:36 <Ben VL> They are the same people buying mountains of TP and then going home to bathe in hand sanitizer
10:40:03 <Ben VL> Oh no, people here are definitely hording
10:41:08 <Eric> But a lot of the empty shelves are just everyone trying to supply up chain cant handle that
10:41:33 <ynpvisitor17> Other then milk, beer, and soda, i can stay away from the store for a month.
10:41:39 <Ben VL> There are stories here of people emptying out an entire refrigerator of meat at the grocery store into their cart.
10:41:41 <Eric> I would expect the supply chain to continue to work.
10:43:22 <KevinS> My brother paid $20 for a 4pk of toilet paper yesterday. That’s the price you pay for not getting it sooner. He forgot I have a warehouse full of supplies at work. 96ct TP is $25.
10:43:25 <Eric> As long as our workforce can stay healthy enough and global supply doesn't break.
10:43:40 <ynpvisitor17> It is hording. When I was at the store Saturday, it was obvious. They had eggs, cheese, and lots of cookies and chips. The above mentioned items were cleaned out. If they were stocking up for a month the other itmes would also be gone.
10:43:48 <Eric> Is gouging not illegal in your state Kevin?
10:43:58 <Eric> 17 states have anti gouging laws
10:44:35 <KevinS> It is. But the law doesn’t clean your hind end either.
10:44:51 <ynpvisitor17> Oregon only if the governor declares a special something.
10:45:49 <KevinS> Bbl
10:46:20 <ynpvisitor17> The supply chain may not brake. It is wounded. When you sell out a weeks supply of tp in a day and do it several days in a row, it will take time to get manufacturing/supply caught up.
10:47:43 <ynpvisitor17> Plus as pointed out last week, china makes many things we no longer make and may pull the plug.
10:48:11 <ynpvisitor17> Back to hot water. Will we get bugs today?
10:49:08 <Ben VL> Do you think crowds in the park are likely to be smaller than usual this year?
10:49:25 <Eric> Yes, if the park actually opens
10:49:48 <ynpvisitor39> yes
10:50:00 <ynpvisitor17> Maybe at first. But we have short memories and they will be there in droves come summer.
10:50:13 <Dave from B™> I'm not expecting park to open on time and bus tours will be WAY down
10:50:34 <ynpvisitor39> yes decline in busses and asian busses
10:50:48 <Dave from B™> If the park doesn't close, it will be filled with domestic customers staying in the country needing to get out
10:50:54 <Ben VL> I assume it will open. It's not like everybody there is in one place
10:51:08 <ynpvisitor17> If you are right, it will be a good year to visit.
10:51:13 <Eric> Xanterra employees live in dorms that are very close.
10:51:16 <Dave from B™> I don't think gov't wants 5000 people at a noontime OF eruption
10:51:24 <Eric> that too
10:51:27 <ynpvisitor17> If they follow the 50 person rule, they will not open.
10:51:30 <ynpvisitor39> cafeteria, ice cream line, store
10:51:41 <Rice> Even hamburger buns are being limited to 1 purchase per person, what are we going too doooooooo?
10:51:55 <ynpvisitor17> bake
10:51:55 <Katie> Even SB platform can have 50 people
10:51:55 <ynpvisitor39> first 50 people to show up get in!
10:51:55 <Eric> It's the employees that are forced together there that I would worry most about.
10:52:00 <Katie> Much as I hate the idea...
10:52:05 <Eric> Can't get flour
10:52:35 <Rice> I can't eat my hamburger on plain bread.
10:52:41 <Ben VL> I would not mind fewer questions during those long geyser sits
10:52:46 <ynpvisitor17> You do not have any? I guess all that talk of preparing for a disaster landed on deaf ears.
10:53:04 <Eric> I have just can't buy it right now
10:53:05 <ynpvisitor17> You can bake buns as easy as bread.
10:53:17 <Joe> Patty melt, problem solved :)
10:53:19 <Rice> For my company safety meeting tomorrow.
10:53:34 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We get our buns baked here every Summer.
10:53:37 <ynpvisitor17> The supply chain will catch up right?
10:53:45 <Rice> Yes
10:53:45 <Eric> I hope so...
10:53:47 <Ben VL> I don't think this going to be the apocalypse tho :p
10:53:56 <ynpvisitor17> Company can not have a meeting.
10:54:04 <Eric> It's going to be more painful than most people believe right now
10:54:07 <Rice> after all this, no one will buy tiolet paper for months, and they price will collapse.
10:54:27 <Joe> ynpvisitor17,
10:54:43 <Joe> ‹Kevin L™ 🌵› We get our buns baked here every Summer. :lol::thumbsup:
10:55:29 <ynpvisitor17> What got me was not a roll of tp but the shelf was full of tissue to blow your nose. This is a respiratory virus, not the other kind.
10:56:06 <Ben VL> Ikr
10:56:59 <Eric> We were cleaned out of all paper products, including diapers and wet wipes.
10:57:02 <ynpvisitor17> bee sneeze.
10:57:34 <LindaG> I think now we will be limited to what we can buy so imthink that will help the supply chain.
10:57:47 <Ben VL> The thing that gets me with the hand sanitizer as well is it only works if everybody washes their hands. 5 gallons of the stuff is not going to help you any more than .5 gallons.
10:58:02 <LindaG> Costco had no TP or paper towels today.
10:58:14 <Joe> Haven't used tp in years Bidet in home and portable bidet for other times
10:58:21 <Eric> But Trump says Coronavirus is under control...guess I should be calm and carry on.
10:58:23 <ynpvisitor17> Tell them to refund your membership.
10:58:49 <LindaG> Joe, portable bidet that's interesting, never heard of that
10:59:08 <ynpvisitor17> Hard spot to be in. Would you rather he say panic, the end is here.
10:59:19 <ynpvisitor17> Water bottle with hole poked in lid.
10:59:20 <Eric> Not really Ben...if you wash/sanitize your hands, it keeps the germs from around your face when touching your eyes/mouth/nose.
10:59:40 <ynpvisitor17> Don't touch your face.
10:59:44 <Eric> No, I would just like him to tell the truth for once!
11:00:01 <Eric> Good luck on that 17! It's really hard not to touch your face.
11:00:13 <Joe> There are many on the web, Linda just not very many good ones
11:00:42 <Dave from B™> I'll give you a personal story to put this in perspective....My 88 year old mom who has mascular degeneration, Parkinsons, dementia and now pulmonary edema has spent the last 3 weeks in a rehab wing and is being transferred tomorrow. Only 2 family members are being allowed to help with transfer to a new higher care room in her normal assisted living facility. Then, absolutly NO visitors until this
11:01:03 <Dave from B™> things is over. I doubt my mom will survive that long and Becca will not have gotten to see her.
11:01:11 <Eric> :-(
11:01:21 <ynpvisitor17> He did tell the truth. I never had *** with that girl. Wait, that was the other guy. Guess you are right they all are lairs.
11:01:22 <Eric> I'm sorry Dave...that so sucks.
11:01:25 <Katie> I'm sorry Dave.
11:02:17 <Ben VL> That is awful :(
11:02:21 <Ben VL> I'm really sorry
11:03:09 <ynpvisitor17> My Mother-in-law is locked in a rehab facility. No one can visit, per federal rules. She is supposed to go to the doctor Tuesday so she can see if she can be discharged. Not sure if they wil let her out, or if they do if they will let her back in if she needs it.
11:04:09 <Joe> The people buying the hand sanitizer are drinking it, sales were limited until now, ask any alcoholic
11:04:49 <ynpvisitor17> The liquor store had a run on everclear.
11:05:03 <Katie> My dad did the opposite - he bought everclear to sanitize with
11:05:15 <Dave from B™> We can't even get in to clean out mom's old room. We did manage to move all necesary items to her new room on Saturday
11:05:15 <ynpvisitor17> They had plenty of other hand sanitizer.
11:05:26 <ynpvisitor17> Paint section had plenty of it also.
11:05:39 <LindaG> I bought 100 proof vodka 😀
11:06:08 <Eric> soap is your friend...look up a video on how to scrub your hands like a surgeon.
11:06:14 <Katie> I just have soap, but I have a reasonable supply.
11:06:33 <Joe> Daisy
11:06:41 <LindaG> I did pick up an bottle of anti bacterial soap
11:08:10 <Eric> dish soap is better at scrubbing viruses than regular soap...breaks down the lipids easier
11:08:16 <Katie> Doesn't even have to be anti-bacterial. It's not a bacteria. :) Soap breaks the fat membrane of viruses.
11:08:21 <LindaG> So to sum up the conversation we are all very clean
11:08:30 <Eric> Exactly Katie
11:08:30 <Ben VL> I already have bottle of hand sanitizer in the car and soap at home.
11:08:33 <Katie> Exactly, Eric.
11:08:37 <Eric> :-D
11:09:01 <Eric> I purchase a gallon size off brand dish soap for scrubbing
11:09:31 <Ben VL>
11:09:40 <Katie> So, of course, after food shopping, I got home and realized we were low on Dawn. My husband bought more. I am pretty sure there is a full bottle in our camper, too, so we should be fine in that regard.
11:10:18 <Ben VL> Isn't dish soap a little rough on your hands if you use it a lot?
11:10:39 <Eric> camper was well stocked with single ply TP before all this mess...which I didn't realize until this weekend.
11:10:51 <ynpvisitor17> Run on hand cream.
11:11:01 <Eric> So now I am very well prepared for long term stay.
11:11:05 <Katie> It occured to me last night that our camper has RV tp, too. But that's expensive. Last resort.
11:11:28 <Eric> I just use scotts single ply TP in our RV
11:11:35 <ynpvisitor17> Dave, I am surprised they let you in Saturday. We were called Saturday with the lock down news.
11:11:37 <Eric> works great and breaks down easy in the tank
11:12:03 <Katie> I'll keep that in mind when I eventually do need to resupply the camper.
11:12:22 <ynpvisitor17> I use premo stuff, never had a problem in the trailer.
11:12:32 <Eric> and it's super cheap stuff because nobody wants super thin single ply TP anymore :-P
11:12:41 <ynpvisitor17> In fact we live better camping them we do at home.
11:13:38 <Eric> Don't forget, people still need blood in hospitals...donate if you can.
11:14:30 <Katie> My one year deferement due to stay at Tikal expires in about 6 weeks, and I'll go back to being a routine platelet donor as I was before.
11:14:47 <ynpvisitor17> That is the only event they did not cancel at our church. Cannot buy pre ordered mexican food, but you can go give blood.
11:15:52 <ynpvisitor17> Not sure if they are feeding cookies and juice, but they are offering free temperature taking.
11:15:58 <Katie> Neat light & contrast
11:16:01 <Dave from B™> 17, we have gotten to know staff real well at retirement center and they made an exception for us
11:16:09 <Dave from B™> on Saturday
11:16:27 <Dave from B™> We want mom to come "home" to something she recognizes
11:16:47 <ynpvisitor17> Lucky, they may not have had the order yet.
11:16:53 <Dave from B™> Her short term memory is gone but she can remember in the long term
11:17:11 <Eric> Home is a good place to be Dave
11:18:53 <ynpvisitor17> The flower is hiding.
11:19:23 <ynpvisitor17> Something back in the "A" area.
11:19:39 <Joe> Flower is done 1105
11:20:28 <ynpvisitor17> I missed it, and going to miss the bee's it looks like. Got to go put floor down. Enjoy the day.
11:21:07 <Dave from B™> bye 17
11:21:10 <Ben VL> Lot of shorter Daisy intervals lately
11:22:02 <LindaG> Interesting NJ has a curfew from 8pm to 5am. No non- essential driving Want people to stay home.
11:22:49 <Katie> Did anyone note time of last OF?
11:23:00 <Ryan(-172)> Mildly shocked and dismayed by the responses to my post on FB about lending out a helping hand in the coming weeks.
11:23:24 <Ryan(-172)> Most responses are in the form of shock and surpise - like as if no one seriously expected people to try to help out?
11:23:35 <Katie> I'm going to enter OF as 40 minutes ago
11:23:54 <LindaG> I dont think I was here for last OF
11:24:07 <Eric> I really appreciated your post Ryan!
11:24:27 <Dave from B™> Anyone else think they should close the stock market for a week or so?
11:24:46 <Eric> Sometimes not everyone thinks the same way and your post helps put people in the right frame of mind.
11:25:02 <LindaG> Dave from B™, wouldn't be a bad idea. It was down 2700 points at one point today
11:25:02 <Ryan(-172)> Thanks, Eric. Guess it just never occured to me that society would be so cynical as to be shocked that someone would offer blanket help.
11:25:20 <Eric> Not really Dave.....let the stocks fall where they may.
11:25:49 <Ryan(-172)> Like. I can accept the risk. If I go out and get groceries for someone who is immunocompromised and I catch it - then OK I am sick for a bit. IF that other person goes out and gets it they die.
11:26:26 <Eric> Not sure it's all cynical...but caught up in other things.
11:26:43 <Ryan(-172)> I think that was my only negative reaction to those my age who rushed to get plane tickets and go on vacation. Like - you could be here helping.
11:26:57 <Dave from B™> This needs to be a time that we unify. Thanks, Ryan. It's obvious #45 can't unify us. We need the publis to do it themselves
11:27:05 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think you are a good responsible person Ryan.
11:27:20 <Ryan(-172)> I just assume I will probably get it eventually. So I will just spend that time helping out those who cant afford to risk themselves to it.
11:27:26 <Katie> I've enrolled in a local volunteer group that is organized for such things, but since I have asthma, I am limiting. I can pick up pre-shopped food and deliver to porches, but I need to maintain social distance, too. But I can haul.
11:27:28 <Eric> The people running off to do things are being selfish IMHO...even if they don't get sick and die, they spread the virus.
11:27:34 <Ryan(-172)> Thanks, Kevin and Dave.
11:27:56 <Ben VL> Ryan, I think that's great.
11:28:06 <Eric> Still protect yourself Ryan...don't become a vector.
11:28:41 <Eric> You might not even know your a vector and that can be even more dangerous
11:28:45 <Ryan(-172)> My plan is to basically drop stuff off in boxes in driveways and porches as needed. My suggestion to whomever I am dropping stuff off for is to take the stuff in the box and then burn the box.
11:28:49 <Ben VL> Surprised you didn't get a better response.
11:29:01 <Eric> good call :-P
11:29:17 <Ryan(-172)> I plan on using gloves when out in public. BenVL, I got a great response, most of it was just along the lines of surprise or shock that someone would help.
11:29:38 <Eric> I even worry about touching my mail each day...I get it and recycle/open it and then wash my hands before proceeding.
11:29:55 <Ben VL> Ah. I didn't see the post. I was just going off what you said here
11:30:47 <Joe> Don't touch any money, use plastic
11:30:53 <Katie> Opening mail last week was "instructive." I made a point of not touching my face after touching mail until a good hand scrubbing. Entering checks in AR took less than 30 minutes, but even a short time is hard to not touch face at all. That really takes thoughtfulness.
11:31:31 <Ryan(-172)> I only ever use credit cards. I very rarely ever use cash.
11:32:17 <ynpvisitor89> Credit card machines are the worst!
11:32:31 <Eric> I have been attempting to just use NFC from my phone...don't even need to touch my CC!
11:32:43 <Ryan(-172)> Better than cash.
11:32:50 <Katie> I use ApplePay most of the time - so I don't touch anything but my own watch which gets washed every time my hands get washed.
11:33:11 <Eric> Yep, ApplePay and GooglePay rock
11:34:37 <ynpvisitor19> Touching is not the biggest problem. If you are out, it is the stuff floating in the air. That is why you are supposed to keep your distance from bison.
11:35:13 <Joe> Turban is busy
11:35:34 <Eric> Stuff floating in the air??? This is NOT an airborne virus
11:35:51 <ynpvisitor19> I am waiting for them to declare an emergency and give us our bags back. How many of you wash your reusable bags after every trip to the store?
11:36:12 <Eric> If someone sneezes on you or coughs on you directly, you could get it...but there is NOTHING hanging in the air.
11:36:16 <ynpvisitor19> Yes it is if it is attached to moisture from a person.
11:38:14 <Eric> Directly from the CDC: The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person. Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet). Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
11:38:33 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I wonder if this will give new meaning to the term laundering money.
11:38:39 <Joe> It lasts on surfaces for up to ten days, do not need to know when a person sneezed but when
11:39:00 <ynpvisitor19> What happened to 3 days?
11:39:31 <Joe> Last CDC thing I saw was 10
11:39:42 <Eric> Not positive about surface life and I think part of that is it really depends on the surface. So treat anything you touch as contaminated.
11:39:51 <ynpvisitor19> Kevin, doesn't Vegas have the largest number of money washing places?
11:40:50 <Katie> Fewer open, now - MGM shut down all of their properties.
11:41:26 <Eric> My parents are in Mexico for the month..supposed to be back in 10 days. I told them to just stay down there for another month!
11:41:30 <Joe> quick look at r-side please
11:41:39 <Katie> And speaking of contaminated surfaces - in the best of times I wash my hands raw in Vegas - machines & chips and ...
11:41:57 <Joe> Tks
11:42:03 <Eric> Yes, you could not pay me enough to go to vegas right now
11:43:28 <Betty> morning all
11:43:44 <Eric> Hi Betty
11:43:57 <Ben VL> morning
11:44:09 <Joe> evening Betty
11:44:30 <ynpvisitor19> I checked and CDC has no info on how many days the virus will live on a surface other then "hours to days". Also say they have no reports of persons getting it from contact with a surface. Say it is transmitted person to person.
11:44:43 <ynpvisitor19> From the horses mouth.
11:45:17 <Ryan(-172)> Jeez. Does it really matter?
11:45:32 <Ryan(-172)> Just assume it is on whatever you touch.
11:45:37 <Betty> It is only 3 days on surfaces like plastic or steel. wood or paper is 24h
11:45:38 <ynpvisitor19> Well information can save you.
11:45:50 <Ryan(-172)> And assume the person walking past you on the street is carrying it.
11:46:15 <Eric> Totally agree Ryan
11:46:22 <Ryan(-172)> Use common sense, I'm not too concerned about how long it is living on a surface, I just assume its there.
11:46:36 <Eric> Yep, because you don't know.
11:46:54 <Betty> that´s it
11:46:58 <ynpvisitor19> Kevin, I was referring to the old days when they used coins. They washed them before putting them back in the machines.
11:47:19 <Ryan(-172)> And the younger a person is, the more cautious you should be. MY #1 fear is having it and not knowing it because my symptoms are mild or non-existent.
11:47:20 <Eric> But for things like packaging, mail, ... it is somewhat helpful to know when you can handle it safely.
11:47:27 <ynpvisitor19> The problem is, when this is over, people will go back to the old ways.
11:47:45 <Ryan(-172)> Again, just assume its on the mail. Wash your hands when you're done.
11:47:55 <ynpvisitor19> I am a if you are sick, stay home person, that is how I was raised.
11:48:09 <Ben VL> Honestly, I think the best thing you is just be a little more careful than notmal cold and flu season, treat it as if it is everywhere, don't go out unless you have to, and don't stress about it.
11:48:12 <ynpvisitor19> If you do no tknow where it has been, don't put it in your mouth.
11:48:15 <Eric> You might not know your sick with this virus is the problem
11:48:41 <Ryan(-172)> 19, the time which viruses survive on surfaces varies from virus to virus: the flu, norovirus, coronaviruses, etc.
11:48:46 <ynpvisitor19> Correct. Many are like that. The call them carriers.
11:48:58 <Ryan(-172)> "The old ways" don't exist.
11:49:02 <Eric> Unlike previous coronaviruses that had very obvious symptoms quickly.
11:49:44 <ynpvisitor19> So how many of you that wash your hands after touching everything are still eating raw food, like salads?
11:50:10 <Ryan(-172)> The surface you're now worried may have coronavirus on is the same surface that at least once in your interaction with it has had some other virus on it.
11:50:18 <Katie> Type of virus is a variable, surface is a variable, and exposure to other substances and even sunlight are variables. So with so many variables... best to presume contaminated and operate accordingly
11:50:24 <Betty> I usually wash my salads...
11:50:28 <Ryan(-172)> Katie, exactly.
11:50:43 <Eric> yep, wash and spin :-D
11:50:52 <Betty> :thumbsup:
11:51:09 <Ryan(-172)> Everyone is panicking because they want specifics: how long does it last on surfaces? How far away from people should I be?
11:51:34 <Ryan(-172)> And we dont have specifics because specifics dont exist. We have guidelines and generalities.
11:52:05 <Ryan(-172)> And a human being can handle guidelines and generalities; people can not.
11:56:02 <Joe> I know that we say some people are not human, but...??
11:57:42 <Joe> Looks like we will have a nice afternoon for geysers
11:58:01 <Dave from B™> Is there a reason almost all viruses originate in 1 country?
11:58:15 <Ben VL> lol
11:58:17 <ynpvisitor19> Good news. A local store picked the last 2 weeks for a case sale. They will have more in the morning. I can get my tomato soup.
11:58:18 <Eric> Don't confuse panic with trying to understand the details :-D We are not all built the same way.
11:58:32 <Ben VL> There are a lot of reasons for that
11:58:35 <Ryan(-172)> I dont think the virus originates there - I think outbreaks do.
11:58:37 <Eric> I don't think that is True Dave.
11:59:13 <Ryan(-172)> Of course, the 1918 flu came from Kansas lol
11:59:29 <ynpvisitor19> They have a bunch of people in contact. Still do some things in old ways.
11:59:39 <Ben VL> China has much worse sanitation than us, and they were supressing information on this thing for a while
12:00:54 <Dave from B™> Yep...I just think of how poor my asia restaurants are at sanitation compared to other custeomrs. I suspect it is worse in China. I think the rest of the world needs to insist they improve sanitation.
12:01:48 <Dave from B™> In case you doubt my comment for local restaurants, that is straight from the health dept
12:02:09 <Dave from B™> Customers hide behind the language barrier
12:02:21 <Ben VL> Oh no I benieve it
12:02:30 <Ben VL> believe*
12:02:50 <Dave from B™> Come deliver fish for me and there will be restauants that you will NEVERF eat at again
12:03:11 <Dave from B™> Not as bad as 20 yeats ago but there are improvements that can be made
12:03:59 <Ben VL> My brother was talking to someone who used to be a health inspector. They said they fon't eat out much anymore
12:04:10 <Ben VL> don't*
12:04:57 <Eric> I assume it has more to do with the price point they are serving your fish at then the ethnicity of the restaraunt.
12:05:25 <ynpvisitor19> They can not agree on where the Spanish Flu came from. Other then it did not come from Spain.
12:05:37 <Eric> But that is just a hunch.
12:06:39 <Joe> I like Chinese/Asian food, I have never seen a clean Chinese/Asian restaurant. I know there is something wrong with that, but I like the food
12:06:44 <ynpvisitor19> Ever watch that stupid chef show where he went to help out hurting eateries? Some of the dirty ones had high prices.
12:06:55 <Eric> I gotta assume that pollution is a huge factor in lung born illnesses though. Just like polio hit industrialized nations due to pollution.
12:07:31 <ynpvisitor19> Italy. Lots of people close together.
12:07:41 <ynpvisitor19> Cruse ships, lots of people close together.
12:07:46 <Eric> Makes peoples immune systems weaker and lets new types of viruses propogate.
12:07:56 <Ben VL> High pop density it probably one of the biggest factors
12:08:31 <Eric> Not sure about that...there are many places with very high population densities.
12:08:32 <JarnoO> OF
12:08:55 <Eric> But they also tend to have higher pollutants in the air too
12:09:23 <Ben VL> I could see pollution being a factor in China
12:10:19 <Eric> Wuhan pollution was off the charts high
12:10:28 <Eric> So many factories
12:12:51 <Joe> When I was in italy in the 60's they fertilized their fields with sludge from the local sewage system, don't know if they still do, they never thought about the heavy metals that were in there
12:16:43 <Eric> farmers fertilize their fields from cattle sewage still here.
12:17:28 <Joe> In the
12:18:04 <Joe> that is not as contaminated as a local sewer systrm
12:18:23 <Eric> yep, agree with that
12:21:17 <Katie> :aurum:
12:21:17 <JarnoO> Aurum
12:21:17 <JarnoO> .
12:21:18 <JarnoO> .
12:21:19 <JarnoO> .
12:21:54 <LindaG> Yay
12:22:12 <LindaG> Hello aurum
12:22:34 <LindaG> And goodbye 😊
12:24:27 <Joe> in the 70's if I remember correctly The university of Colorado built a new science building, rather than move the reagents from the old buildings to the new they dumped the reagents down the sewer, the Fort Collins sewage treatment plant was 'killed'. It cost the university many dollars to restore the plant.
12:25:51 <VforVictory> Better living through chemistry!
12:29:51 <Katie> There is a person there!
12:31:37 <Eric> Wow...spain seized all private health care!
12:31:59 <Eric> Considering US has next to NO public health care, that might be necessary here too.
12:36:09 <Eric> Great article on how this administration has hamstrung our scientists on stopping this pandemic!
12:40:37 <JarnoO> Eric, /getvideo has crashed again. Getting the replay from last night
12:40:53 <Eric> ugg, thanks Jarno
12:41:04 <JarnoO> :thumbsup:
12:47:06 <Dave from B™> Thanks, Eric
12:49:58 <EmilyW> Howdy
12:50:49 <Dave from B™> Hi Emily
12:52:59 <Betty> hi EmilyW, hi Dave from B™
13:09:23 <Dave from B™> Emily, when do you start at Boulder?
13:12:57 <EmilyW2> mid august but that remains to be seen given the current situation.
13:13:17 <Betty> huh, what happened to Grand?
13:15:31 <Dave from B™> 5 months....hopefully that is long enough for things to get back as close to normal as will get
13:16:18 <EmilyW2> I am actually worried about graduating this next quarter given that one class is research based lab course. They might shutdown all UCSB research activities
13:17:03 <Dave from B™> Kind of hard to do a lab online
13:17:19 <EmilyW2> daisy
13:18:07 <EmilyW2> indeed. we will see. at the very least if I am inside all day i can go back to virtual geyser gazing
13:18:54 <Dave from B™> You might have to sneak in and plant at camera at Norris for us:)
13:19:16 <ynpvisitor46> why would Emily do that? You are lots closer Dave
13:19:26 <Ryan(-172)> I've been ridgewalking.
13:19:41 <Ryan(-172)> Acres and acres, thousands here, with limestone that needs mapping!
13:19:56 <Ryan(-172)> Social distancing AND learning more about my home caves. Tis great
13:20:08 <Dave from B™> She is more stealth than me:)
13:20:22 <Dave from B™> People would hear me from miles away
13:20:33 <EmilyW2> hey, I can only do so much holed up here in SB
13:20:36 <ynpvisitor46> no one in park to hear you
13:21:24 <Dave from B™> It's quiet will Bill no longer around to give us little news tidbits
13:21:25 <Ryan(-172)> Which vent have you been hiding in, Emily?
13:21:35 <Dave from B™> hahaha Ryan
13:21:58 <EmilyW2> which vent?
13:22:14 <Ryan(-172)> You said youre holed up in SB....?
13:22:22 <Ryan(-172)> Isn't it kind of hot there?
13:22:29 <Dave from B™> I think it's the little to the right of South Vent
13:22:59 <EmilyW2> its the isla vista vent
13:23:08 <ynpvisitor46> would be great to find Grand
13:23:28 <Ryan(-172)> You've been holding out on reports fvrom us this whole time!?
13:24:23 <EmilyW2> i have said too much
13:24:49 <Betty> did Daisy happen yet?
13:24:56 <EmilyW2> yes
13:26:57 <Ryan(-172)> It was you, wasn't it, Emily?
13:27:06 <Ryan(-172)> You moved the SB logger so you can have all the dasta to your self.
13:27:20 <Ryan(-172)> Our ONE source of entertainment and hope during this pandemic....
13:27:24 <JarnoO> when was Daisy then?
13:27:32 <EmilyW2> I said saisy in chat
13:27:37 <Katie> 1317
13:27:41 <JarnoO> ah, oki
13:27:48 <EmilyW2> 13:17:19 ‹EmilyW2› daisy
13:28:22 <JarnoO> On GT now
13:29:11 <EmilyW2> I hope we keep pushing the daisy interval down
13:29:34 <Ryan(-172)> It will.
13:29:45 <EmilyW2> might be nice to perhaps gey splendid to show up
13:29:46 <Ryan(-172)> Splendid will happen and we wont be there to see it because COVID
13:30:05 <Betty> thx Jarno, Katie and Emily :-) and Ryan
13:30:18 <JarnoO> it had a few back-to-back sub-2h intervals over the last few weeks. Although that happened in fairly wind-still conditions, it's still extremely promising for the upcoming season
13:30:19 <Ben VL> Ill be there
13:30:35 <JarnoO> evening Betty, afternoon to whom I didn't say it to
13:31:36 <Betty> Go Splendid between Oct.10-15
13:31:54 <Ben VL> Been getting about weekly daisy interval decreases
13:32:40 <Dave from B™> Betty, you will need an extra suitcase for your winter gear
13:33:20 <Betty> I have space for 32 kg instead of 23 :-)
13:33:33 <Betty> LCC
13:35:08 <JarnoO> We can see Splendid from the camera, as a large plume left of Daisy (not to be confused with Comet). HK has a nice video with Splendids 1997, where one of the last clips is Splendid in concert with Daisy as seen from the top of the Inn
13:37:25 <Ryan(-172)> I'd be happy with Splendid from here
13:37:28 <EmilyW2> was planning on not coming to YNP this summer but splendid would make me do it
13:39:26 <Eric> Hey...Emily rejoins us :-D
13:39:36 <Eric> Hi
13:39:44 <Betty> hi Eric
13:39:49 <Eric> Hi Betty
13:39:49 <EmilyW2> hi eric
13:40:15 <Eric> My daughter is having the same issue Emily...graduation and testing is all in limbo
13:40:30 <EmilyW2> well AP
13:41:05 <ynpvisitor46> she must have enough credits to graduate, right Eric?
13:41:19 <EmilyW2> Like wehen I took the AP exams for my classes the tests did follow social distancing rules but they wouldnt allow them to go ahead
13:41:22 <Eric> IB diplomas are about testing...not credits :-(
13:41:37 <ynpvisitor46> so she would not graduate?
13:41:41 <EmilyW2> thus, she needs to take more classes in college
13:41:55 <Eric> Probably still she has been working 4 years toward these IB tests!
13:42:09 <ynpvisitor46> what is IB?
13:42:19 <EmilyW2> international bacculearette
13:42:25 <Eric> Yep
13:42:45 <ynpvisitor46> terrible time for people all over
13:42:49 <Eric> Her tests will be graded by outside examiners from different countries
13:42:51 <EmilyW2> sort of like you do extra work and end up with some college credits in the end
13:43:28 <ynpvisitor46> Trump just said he expects this to go to at least July or August.
13:43:37 <Eric> Meh, the credits aren't too much of a concern...having the IB diploma and high test scores on them are fairly prestigious.
13:43:59 <EmilyW2> 46, I dont trust trump on this. I would trust Fauci
13:44:07 <ynpvisitor46> toward her future?
13:44:15 <Eric> She is also taking most of the AP tests too...even though she has never taken an AP class :-P
13:44:21 <ynpvisitor46> I think Fauci has given him those dates
13:45:00 <ynpvisitor46> ha ha, "once this virus is gone we are going to see a stock market like no one has seen before..."
13:45:27 <Eric> I think any date is a wild ass guess at this point since we don't have containment or vaccine.
13:45:40 <Eric> OF
13:45:43 <ynpvisitor46> Fauci just chimed in that hopefully these lockdowns do not last until July
13:46:27 <Dave from B™>, I can't escape to Canada
13:46:34 <Eric> Nope...blocked Dave
13:46:56 <Eric> Mexico will probably start rejecting US citizens too.
13:47:52 <Dave from B™> Retiring in NZ is looking better everyday
13:48:01 <EmilyW2> i was ironically I was eyeballing China before it all started and then it happened but now it looks like china is actually a pretty covid safe country to be in right now
13:48:35 <ynpvisitor46> except you cannot get to China
13:49:01 <EmilyW2> no
13:50:19 <Eric> We had friends who moved there for about 8's much more challenging than you would think.
13:50:25 <Eric> They ended up moving back.
13:50:36 <EmilyW2> i am just visiting
13:50:38 <Eric> Speaking of New Zealand
13:50:42 <Eric> Not china
13:50:47 <Dave from B™> Eric, what was the challenge?
13:51:06 <Eric> Culturally, Financially, Socially
13:51:09 <Eric> All of it
13:51:21 <Eric> They loved the people there, but it's a different way to live
13:51:38 <Eric> and they were probably closer matched to them then I think you might be.
13:52:20 <Eric> Anytime you want to visit friends and family it becomes a financial and logistical problem.
13:53:08 <ynpvisitor46> you mean outside NZ?
13:53:35 <Dave from B™> You are a long ways from anywhere but Australia
13:53:50 <EmilyW2> grotto?
13:54:12 <Dave from B™> It would be fun to snowbird there for 3 months
13:54:48 <Katie> Forbes article today on streaming cams - mentions this one
13:55:42 <Dave from B™> Katie, #1 NPS cam or becuase it is always broken down?:)
13:56:40 <Katie> It's a positive article - livestreams to watch while stuck at home
13:56:54 <Ryan(-172)> Oblong?
13:57:05 <Ryan(-172)> Grotto yes
13:57:13 <Dave from B™> Maybe we'll pickup a few more chatters
13:57:54 <Katie> It gives the NPS url, thankfully. Not that I'm clique-ish, but...
13:58:32 <EmilyW2> Are you saying that you wouldnt want Gt shared?
13:59:10 <Katie> Not at all. But this chat isn't suitable for thousands of chatters
13:59:44 <Dave from B™> Yeah....I remember the Kileau Volcano cam...impossible to communicate there
13:59:45 <EmilyW2> I find it perfectly fine that this doesnt get shared with lots of others
14:00:12 <Dave from B™> Second thought, I like the smallness of this room as well
14:00:23 <EmilyW2> I do too dave
14:00:48 <EmilyW2> I was just thinking how I have been using it on and off for 8 years at this point and have 'known' you and others for a similar amount of tim
14:01:14 <Dave from B™> Yep. I've met a lot of friends in this room
14:03:44 <JarnoO> Lc ie
14:05:42 <EmilyW2> weird how neither grand nor beehive have been seen
14:09:00 <Dave from B™> ..
14:11:00 <ynpvisitor46> it was pretty white out yesterday Emily
14:11:17 <EmilyW2> ah
14:11:22 <Katie> ...and until about 11:00am today as well
14:12:16 <Dave from B™> pretty? Kevin and I have different words for it:)
14:13:37 <Betty> BSB steaming
14:16:40 <Dave from B™> Hopefully, tomorrow is the last day I'll be stepping in it this year
14:17:05 <Dave from B™> Since the fitness club is a no no, I need to get my bike out
14:17:06 <EmilyW2> BSB?
14:17:48 <Betty> Beehives South Bubblers
14:18:01 <EmilyW2> oh
14:22:18 <JarnoO> Dep's steamy
14:25:03 <Betty> BSB ie
14:29:07 <Joe> Grand
14:31:50 <ynpvisitor46> I don't see Grand, is it over?
14:32:11 <Katie> I was never sure I really saw it or Turban??
14:32:20 <Joe> think the end was near
14:32:28 <ynpvisitor46> Joe posted it
14:34:58 <JarnoO> Riverside ie
14:35:11 <Joe> yep
14:35:54 <JarnoO> 21h32m quadruple interval it seems
14:36:17 <JarnoO> OT ns
14:47:43 <LindaG> Bee looks steamy
14:48:34 <LindaG> Did bee erupt and I missed ot?
14:48:43 <Katie> nope
14:49:21 <LindaG> Oh south bubbler, indy popped into my head
14:49:36 <LindaG> Nice spkash
14:49:59 <y116> bee sneeze
14:51:37 <y116> Surprised there is no depression today.
14:52:08 <VforVictory> I'm a little depressed.
14:52:18 <Dave from B™> Oh,,,there's plenty of depression today
14:52:31 <Katie> I think everyone is, even if they haven't acknowledged it even to themselves.
14:52:45 <y116> Are your lobsters sluggish?
14:54:07 <Joe> indy
14:54:08 <Katie> BGU
14:54:11 <Katie> BHI!
14:54:20 <LindaG> Yay
14:54:24 <Betty> woot
14:54:29 <Joe> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""}+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++======================================================================
14:54:39 <Dave from B™> Joe has a cat?
14:54:54 <VforVictory> Wake up Joe!
14:55:04 <y116> Just one of your non-returnable keyboards.
14:55:18 <Joe> text sent
14:55:20 <LindaG> He got excited 😊
14:55:34 <Betty> seems so
14:56:14 <LindaG> Got the text, thx
14:56:29 <Joe> leand across keyboard to send text :)
14:56:39 <LindaG> 😊
14:56:41 <Dave from B™> Joe, I just put a new keyboard in the mail for you
14:56:57 <Joe> Bindy excites me!!!
14:57:09 <Dave from B™> This one squirts water at you if it sees a typo
14:57:11 <Joe> thanks Dave
14:57:11 <y116> Only used once on a cruse ship?
14:58:18 <Katie> Behave, cam
14:58:36 <Kat> :) l9l
14:58:42 <Kat> LOLOL
14:58:49 <LindaG> Kat, hi
14:58:49 <y116> We are watching the behive cam.
14:59:05 <Kat> Hi all!
14:59:16 <LindaG> Kat, hi
15:00:06 <Kat> INdy??
15:00:12 <LindaG> Yes
15:00:42 <Joe> yes 1453 you did not get text
15:01:00 <Kat> No
15:01:50 <Joe> what carrier are you
15:01:50 <Dave from B™> I got it
15:02:11 <Katie> I received it (on Verizon)
15:02:24 <LindaG> Me too
15:02:42 <Kat> Soirry Joe - yes I did 1454 on Verizoin!
15:02:45 <y116> Is she set up for the new system?
15:02:48 <Kat> Verizon
15:03:00 <Joe> thanks
15:03:45 <LindaG> Making us wait
15:03:55 <Kat> :)
15:04:09 <Joe> I also sent a ' type message on chat :)cat'
15:04:15 <Kat> My phone volume was truned down!
15:04:31 <Kat> turned*
15:04:53 <Betty> your cat message, lol
15:05:14 <Dave from B™> haha Joe
15:05:16 <Kat> Hahaha Betty,
15:06:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> :)
15:07:01 <Joe> the bee
15:07:07 <Dave from B™> woohoo
15:07:13 <LindaG> 😊
15:07:14 <Kat> :bee::bee::bee::bee:
15:07:22 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Timing is everything.
15:07:39 <Betty> nice Kevin
15:07:39 <Kat> NIce!!!
15:08:26 <LindaG> No wind
15:08:36 <Kat> Wooiooo
15:08:40 <Kat> Wooooo
15:08:44 <ynpvisitorCC> Thanks for the text
15:08:57 <Kat> Hey CC
15:09:07 <LindaG> ynpvisitorCC, hi
15:09:08 <Joe> we aim to please :)
15:09:13 <ynpvisitorCC> I sent a note to Dave to reboot the cam
15:09:29 <Kat> :) Joe
15:10:17 <Katie> CC - did you see the Forbes article today?
15:10:38 <ynpvisitorCC> no
15:11:17 <Katie> "stuck at home, check out these streaming webcams to connect to nature" or similar - mentions this cam
15:11:24 <Kat> Me either Katie..
15:11:30 <LindaG> Nice
15:11:50 <Kat> Ahhhh - good teaching for kids stuck at home!
15:12:29 <Katie> It mentions other good cams as well, although some won't be at peak "showtime" for a while (like Katmai / Brooks Falls)
15:13:32 <Betty> that was nice, headed out, stay safe and sound all :-)
15:14:15 <LindaG> Betty, bye
15:14:36 <Kat> Bye Betty
15:15:41 <Dave from B™> Gathering suggestions are down to 10 people now...guess I can't have company meetings anymore
15:16:54 <Kevin L™ 🌵> There are good points!!
15:17:06 <Kevin L™ 🌵> bye betty
15:17:33 <Dave from B™> We'll just spread out and I'll talk real loud
15:17:51 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Get a megaphone
15:18:47 <Dave from B™> I need the one with power...bullhorn?
15:20:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think there is too much bull being spread around already.
15:20:50 <Joe> there was a female gazer in Yellowstone that you could hear for about a mile when she was telling folks about geysers...hire her :)
15:30:20 <Dave from B™> I'm not touching that one.
15:30:29 <Eric> OF
15:30:53 <Joe> Dave, :thumbsup::D
15:31:44 <Dave from B™> I couldn't figure out who to throw under the bridge:)
15:32:17 <ynpvisitor15> ole Bessy Blowhard
15:33:05 <Joe> I've never met any gazers so #15 may be correct :)
15:33:53 <Dave from B™> That's a strange last name
15:34:40 <ynpvisitor15> married to Michael Motormouth
15:39:16 <Kevin L™ 🌵> When are your September Yellowstone plans Dave?
15:40:24 <Dave from B™> They are at home. I think fri sat sun of labor day weekend
15:40:28 <Eric> So Washington state has has 42 deaths and ONE recovery from Covid-19 so far....those are not good ratios!
15:40:45 <Eric> According to John Hopkins Virus tracking website
15:41:03 <Dave from B™> I find that hard to believe
15:41:28 <Eric> Well, recovery takes a while, death does not
15:41:32 <Ben VL> How many infections?
15:42:06 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We may meet. They had cabins on the 2nd & 3rd. We may wave at each other as we pass.
15:42:09 <Eric> Thats the weird part...the site doesn't track infections by state, but deaths and recoveries it does.
15:43:11 <Eric> ahh, found it you can show infections by state by scrolling at the bottom.
15:43:17 <JarnoO> I assume those recoveries are only the known cases - in most cases, the virus is just as harmless as a common cold as far as I know, so it's extremely likely that many cases simply go unnoticed
15:43:28 <Eric> 769 confirmed cases in Washington State
15:44:00 <Eric> Not sure about that actually Jarno...I have seen some conflicting info.
15:44:16 <Eric> Lot of disinformation out there
15:44:32 <JarnoO> true. I'll check Wikipedia
15:44:35 <Ben VL> A lot of people don't show many symptoms. I've heard that almost everywhere
15:44:35 <JarnoO> ''s sources
15:44:44 <Joe> How many people live in the state of Wa??
15:45:23 <Eric> I think the article I was reading was looking at chinese numbers...they believe they are pretty spot on with their thorough testing.
15:45:49 <Eric> They locked everyone down and did complete testing to stop the spread
15:46:36 <Eric> So the research believes the numbers coming out of china are pretty accurate...but that doesn't mean US numbers are any good, since our government is sucking it on testing.
15:47:43 <Eric> But recovery also takes a while...either way.
15:49:57 <Dave from B™> Kevin, I hope our paths cross.
15:50:18 <Dave from B™> You can alert the deer and I'll tell all the rocks
15:50:25 <JarnoO> This one appears to be a fairly accurate image of symptoms of COVID-19, backed up by reliable sources (WHO and two research papers which are freely accessible):
15:51:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sounds like a plan Dave. I will leave my daughter in Cedar City.
15:52:20 <Eric> Thanks Jarno
15:52:24 <Dave from B™> So, she is the screamer?:D
15:53:20 <Ben VL> That's pretty consistent with everything I've heard
15:53:35 <Kevin L™ 🌵> No, the deer killer.
15:53:57 <Dave from B™> Time for me to head out. Take care of everyone. Be kind and help out all you can during this challenging time.
15:54:08 <Dave from B™> Gotcha, Kevin. See you tomorrow
15:54:10 <JarnoO> cya Dave. Take care of yourself, too
15:54:18 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Bye
15:54:45 <Eric> Night Dave....stay healthy!
15:54:47 <Ben VL> Bye Dave
16:39:30 <LindaG> Pretty sky
16:40:55 <Jeff> very pretty
16:49:51 <JarnoO> cASTLE
16:55:04 <Jeff> OF
16:55:06 <JarnoO> OF
17:01:23 <JarnoO> OT ie, Bulger ie
17:04:33 <GO STEAMBOAT> hello, sorry I am late ... got distracted for a wiel
17:04:56 <emilyw> howdy
17:04:56 <LindaG> Hi
17:05:01 <Katie> Hi. I lost controls and thought you logged in.
17:05:38 <LindaG> 😊
17:05:42 <GO STEAMBOAT> cstle is nice
17:05:46 <JarnoO> Castle major
17:05:55 <emilyw> had bee and grand earlier
17:05:57 <GO STEAMBOAT> its a Major
17:09:38 <GO STEAMBOAT> good to see SB erupted again, some good news for a change
17:11:32 <Jeff> im glad SB is still goin
17:12:11 <LindaG> Its waiting for you Jeff
17:13:43 <Jeff> i just need to get through a couple more weeks and then ill be in west
17:14:52 <GO STEAMBOAT> hopefully you get there, could be a late start with all the closings?
17:15:09 <Kat> Beautiful!!
17:15:33 <Jeff> i havent heard anything as of yet
17:15:58 <emilyw> i have a feeling YNP wont be opening on time
17:17:22 <Katie> I can't imagine it will open on time. IT would cause gatherings of more than 10 people in spots. Employees in high density housing... I hope I'm wrong. I hope the actions being taken now get us back to whatever will be the new normal before late April, but...
17:20:24 <emilyw> certain locals are going full italy in a week anyways
17:20:56 <JarnoO> Daisy
17:21:20 <JarnoO> 4h03m double intervalk
17:21:24 <JarnoO> interval*
17:22:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> of course Daisy jumps in when I help my sister take things to the vehicle
17:37:19 <ynpvisitor14> Lovely evening in the basin.
17:37:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> 40° and snow. Kind of strange.
17:45:46 <JarnoO> LC ie
18:02:27 <JarnoO> Dome looks very steamy
18:08:47 <GO STEAMBOAT> big roof drift
18:10:13 <JarnoO> OT ie
18:10:15 <JarnoO> Lion ie ini
18:13:17 <JarnoO> LC
18:13:41 <Bhoffer> hope that SB gets to 100 eruptions in this active phase
18:17:38 <JarnoO> what was that for an LC? Less than 3 minutes
18:18:47 <Eric> alright...I added a stalled out script for the /getvideo feature
18:18:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> i wasnt tiiming it
18:18:59 <Eric> should restart capturing if it detects the video is stale
18:19:17 <JarnoO> :thumbsup:
18:20:17 <JarnoO> less than 4 minutes. Need to pay attention to the timestamps more :P
18:30:28 <GO STEAMBOAT> of
18:33:42 <JarnoO> short-medium
18:33:53 <JarnoO> or not
18:34:25 <GO STEAMBOAT> two peeps
19:13:30 <GO STEAMBOAT> Lion is roaring
19:25:58 <LindaG> Daisy
19:27:21 <Eric> wow...beautiful light!
19:27:32 <Eric> on all the statics
19:31:45 <LindaG> It is
19:32:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> And we got a BH today.
19:33:23 <LindaG> Yup,
19:34:02 <Kevin L™ 🌵> BTW Linda there is heavy snow at Tehachapi right now.
19:37:25 <LindaG> Oh I'll check it out
19:42:48 <LindaG> Snow, no trains 😊
19:43:20 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Pretty sky here.
19:44:20 <LindaG> Sky is real nice. Just realized its snowing in california
19:44:37 <LindaG> Must be high elevation
19:46:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Only 3800 feet. It is 2149 at my house.
19:46:12 <LindaG> Beautiful sunset
19:46:34 <GO STEAMBOAT> you are welcome
19:46:46 <LindaG> GO STEAMBOAT, 😊
19:47:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Nice of you to make it for us Graham.
19:47:39 <Kevin L™ 🌵> When do you get to the park in September Graham?
19:54:18 <GO STEAMBOAT> i hope i can go Labor Day
19:55:41 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I did get 2 nights on Sep 2. Will be leaving Friday.
19:56:06 <GO STEAMBOAT> nice. i hope we can all get there
19:56:28 <GO STEAMBOAT> i am ready to write off this year and skip ahead to 2021
19:57:55 <LindaG> Hello lori hello
19:58:00 <Lori S> Hello All Hello
19:58:09 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am sweating our reservations at the Cumbres & Toltec in June. They are planning to open but that can change in minutes.
19:58:26 <Lori S> Breaking news:
19:58:50 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I figure this virus won't last long. After all it was made in China.
19:59:10 <GO STEAMBOAT> of
19:59:28 <Lori S> Kevin L™ 🌵, lol
19:59:38 <LindaG> Lori S, I'm in the same boat here in Jersey
20:00:31 <LindaG> Well I'm slowly accepting my grand Canyon trip most likely wont happen in may
20:00:53 <Lori S> LindaG, :(
20:01:04 <Lori S> we went out to eat just because
20:01:22 <Lori S> and got free cheesecake cuz they'd have to toss it at 9 pm anyway
20:01:45 <LindaG> Oh a bonus
20:02:03 <Lori S> except formy diet :O
20:02:09 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I went to Target today and they had toilet paper. Lines weren't bad either.
20:02:32 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, wow, Costco had none
20:02:48 <Lori S> our local groceries have none either nor milk
20:02:51 <Kevin L™ 🌵> My dentist did make me rinse with peroxide before he would look at me. :P
20:03:04 <Lori S> Kevin L™ 🌵, :thumbsup:
20:03:16 <LindaG> Lori S, a treat every once in while helps to keep diet going 😉
20:03:29 <Lori S> LindaG, agree :0
20:03:40 <Lori S> * :)
20:04:28 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Right Lori!
20:04:31 <Kevin L™ 🌵>
20:04:33 <Lori S> pretty
20:05:03 <LindaG> Hehe saw that on Facebook kevin
20:06:46 <GO STEAMBOAT> goodnight
20:07:03 <Kevin L™ 🌵> My kid is unhappy since they cancelled most of his races this year.
20:07:07 <Lori S> night Graham
20:07:20 <Lori S> Kevin L™ 🌵, :(
20:07:25 <LindaG> GO STEAMBOAT, night
20:07:55 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Night Graham.
20:12:11 <ynpvisitor81> I guess I need to book August for YNP. If end of May is out I will have a back up plan. If not, Go twice!!