Showing logs for date: 2020-03-17
01:49:27 <ynpvisitor22> Me thinks it is snowing, or the cam has the cold.
06:35:07 <LindaG> Happy St. Patty's Day
06:58:35 <Hi, Linda> oops!!
07:01:07 <Joe> l be the first OF seen since 0033 too much fog all night, should be very soon
07:01:13 <LindaG> Hi kittym
07:01:27 <Joe> this will be***
07:01:31 <LindaG> Good morning all
07:01:32 <KittyM> :)
07:01:45 <KittyM> Hi Joe and Linda
07:02:19 <LindaG> Joe hope you are continuing to improve
07:02:22 <Joe>
07:02:54 <LindaG> 😃
07:03:31 <Joe> thank you, they will let me know Wednesday :)
07:06:20 <Kat> Morning all - woke up in the middle of the night sick as a dog. Something I ate I'm sure - so I may be on and off cam
07:06:31 <Kat> GTood luck Joe!
07:06:44 <Kat> Good*
07:07:51 <Joe> Thanks, in your post above, at first ib read 'can' :)
07:08:04 <Joe> ib = I
07:08:11 <Ryan(-171)> Kat if you have COVID-19 can I catch it from you through here?
07:08:56 <Kat> I have not been out at all - Ryan - not going to catch anything from me here LOL ;)
07:08:57 <LindaG> Kat, want me to do your shift?
07:09:22 <Kat> Are you sure you don't need to be anywhere??
07:09:37 <LindaG> Not this morning
07:09:38 <Kat> You're like me hunkered down!
07:09:41 <Joe> only if she types COVID-19 and hits send
07:10:02 <Kat> LOL
07:10:10 <KittyM> LOL Joe, you just did it!
07:10:11 <Kat> That would be a relief Linda
07:10:19 <Ryan(-171)> I read online at that you can trasnmit it through the internet...
07:10:23 <LindaG> Kat, ok I'll do it
07:10:40 <LindaG> I'm just hanging out
07:10:58 <KittyM> LOL Ryan
07:10:58 <Kat> Thank you thank you! Controls released
07:11:05 <Ryan(-171)> Did lie to me!?
07:11:23 <LindaG> I have cam
07:11:30 <LindaG> Kat, yw
07:11:38 <Kat> Today is Grahams birthday! Public service announcement!
07:11:40 <Joe> Ryan, never
07:12:03 <Kat> Ryan(-171), You've been duped!
07:12:32 <Ryan(-171)> I DONT KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE
07:12:40 <Ryan(-171)> *clutches heasd, rips out hair, screams*
07:13:37 <Joe> Ryan,
07:14:11 <LindaGp> aaof
07:14:18 <LindaGp> lol. Of
07:15:19 <Joe> Hi my name is Linda and i have a ....
07:16:24 <LindaGp> problem I can't rype
07:16:49 <LindaGp> *type see
07:26:52 <LindaGp> so much for a view
07:29:16 <LindaGp> static is nice, electric peak and washburn
07:34:30 <Dave from B™> Morning everyone
07:34:59 <Bhoffer> Morning Dave from B™,
07:35:02 <LindaGp> Dave from B™, morning
07:35:09 <Dave from B™> Today I start the process of reducing my staff without making anyone mad.....that sounds fun
07:35:41 <Dave from B™> I never thought I would have to do that...until a week ago
07:36:39 <LindaGp> Dave from B™, ☹ I don't envy you
07:40:00 <LindaGp> split cone 😊
07:42:01 <LindaGp> Hi jeff
07:42:05 <Jeff> morning linda
07:42:48 <LindaGp> static real pretty - orange skies
07:45:49 <ynpvisitor30> It’s Graham’s birthday today!!
07:49:03 <LindaGp> these dead bugs are nice to.look at
07:51:01 <LindaGp> here comes the sun
07:51:19 <LindaGp> !nice
07:55:53 <ynpvisitor18> Dave from B™, temporary reductions or do you have to let them go?
07:59:35 <LindaGp> thx I needed that
08:00:04 <Dave from B™> All would be temporary...but that could be 3-4 months...not sure how to be fair to me, this is like family
08:00:30 <Dave from B™> We won't be closing because we have grocery stores to take care of
08:01:08 <ynpvisitor18> maybe some will volunteer based on their own situations
08:01:49 <Dave from B™> One part timer is needed at his other location (grocery store) so I'm off the hook for 2 weeks with him
08:03:29 <ynpvisitor18> :thumbsup:
08:04:02 <Dave from B™> Trying to decide what % of staff will be needed each week. We might do an alternating schedule or something
08:05:22 <Joe> Have you noticed that the 'left/socialists' that say we have enough money to give everything 'free' are no where to be found at times like these?
08:06:16 <Dave from B™> Just like Trump saying he had things under control...both sides are stupid
08:07:11 <LindaGp> hey KevinS
08:07:24 <KevinS> Good morning all
08:07:44 <LindaGp> blue sky when fog clears
08:11:24 <LindaGp> daisy?
08:11:51 <LindaGp> something is erupting
08:13:34 <LindaGp> daisy
08:13:57 <LindaGp> .
08:13:59 <LindaGp> .
08:14:15 <LindaGp> agree-disagree
08:14:44 <Joe> realy hard to say
08:15:30 <Dave from B™> Looks more like Splendid:)
08:15:40 <Joe> If those are castle trees to the left then no not Daisy
08:16:28 <LindaGp> not.castle trees
08:16:28 <Joe> a big, not unusual sprinkler
08:16:42 <Dave from B™> Seriously, probably Grotto
08:17:06 <LindaGp> grotto would be to right I think
08:17:18 <Joe> hams store, castle trees= not daisy
08:17:20 <LindaGp> could be castle
08:17:26 <Dave from B™> Impressive cloud, whatever it is
08:17:41 <LindaGp> I think it's castle
08:18:12 <Dave from B™> Trees we see are Lower Ham area trees
08:18:14 <Joe> not castle you are not in the right place
08:18:37 <LindaGp> when I hit castle on preset this is where it took me
08:19:18 <LindaGp> yeah trees are not castle trees
08:19:33 <Joe> i see that now
08:19:49 <LindaGp> so deceiving
08:20:12 <Joe> it wouls all be a WAG
08:20:47 <LindaGp> what does that mean?
08:21:15 <Dave from B™> a guess
08:21:16 <Joe> would* wild a** guess
08:21:25 <LindaGp> there are the castle trees
08:21:35 <Joe> yep
08:22:13 <LindaGp> now is it erupting or juat producing a lot of steam
08:22:35 <LindaGp> don't see water
08:22:40 <Dave from B™> Times are tough...someone cut the catalytic converter off one of my trucks last night.
08:22:45 <Joe> 11deg 100% humidity
08:23:35 <Joe> things should be humongous
08:24:06 <LindaGp> spas was huge
08:27:36 <CC> morning all
08:27:48 <CC> is the cam freezing less
08:27:52 <LindaGp> CC, hi
08:27:58 <CC> Hi linda
08:30:03 <LindaGp> not sure I can answer that firat time on since sat
08:30:18 <Dave from B™> Happy St. Patrick's Day to much going on I forgot to wear green today
08:30:37 <LindaGp> hasn't gone down since I've been on
08:31:18 <LindaGp> there is a few second delay reaction from cam
08:33:18 <Joe> it has failed once at 0315 and was gone for 6 minutes
08:33:51 <Joe> But that could have been anything
08:35:56 <LindaGp> LS
08:36:01 <LindaGp> ie
08:36:16 <LindaGp> it's a big squirt today
08:36:27 <CC> I did send an email to Dave to reboot
08:37:25 <LindaGp> thank you
08:42:27 <Bhoffer> Morning Kevin L™ 🌵
08:42:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Morning
08:43:10 <LindaGp> good morning
08:43:43 <CC> Morning Kevin
08:44:06 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi CC
08:45:31 <CC> Looks to me that the freezing of the stream is still happening.
08:48:36 <LindaGp> right now 1
08:48:43 <LindaGp> 1.3 fps
08:48:57 <LindaGp> before it was diwn to 0.4 fps
08:52:16 <LindaGp> OF
08:54:26 <LindaGp> looks huge on static
08:57:02 <Kevin L™ 🌵> A bit cooler out there today.
08:58:05 <LindaGp> grotto I think
09:02:39 <LindaGp> I think grand may be due
09:05:15 <LindaGp> lion
09:05:31 <LindaGp> should be nice
09:06:28 <LindaGp> minor?
09:06:36 <LindaGp> hih
09:07:01 <LindaGp> restarted?
09:07:42 <Joe> yep on restart
09:07:55 <LindaGp> I've never seen it do that
09:10:15 <LindaGp> so was that a minor and then normal or cone eruption?
09:10:22 <LindaGp> *one
09:10:25 <Joe> If Graham was here his words would be _________ fill in the blank :)
09:10:55 <Joe> I think one
09:11:07 <LindaGp> 😊
09:11:25 <LindaGp> disappointed I expected a big ini
09:12:05 <Joe> so much fog could have been the end of series
09:12:24 <Joe> fog this morning
09:15:39 <LindaGp> grand
09:15:40 <LindaGp> .
09:15:40 <LindaGp> .
09:16:38 <LindaGp> it's a big one
09:20:27 <LindaGp> bulger ie
09:21:24 <LindaGp> churn ie
09:28:12 <LindaGp> OT ie
09:47:47 <LindaGp> churn snuck in during grand
09:56:51 <Kevin L™ 🌵> What are you doing to this poor cam Linda?
09:57:58 <LindaGp> beating up on it
09:58:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is stressing for sure.
09:58:40 <LindaGp> 0.4 fps
09:59:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Looks like another fun day. :P
09:59:33 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am ready anytime you are.
10:00:15 <LindaGp> controls relwased
10:00:43 <LindaGp> it's all yours, maybe it will like you better
10:01:08 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Got it. It took a bit longer than normal though.
10:02:12 <ynpvisitor54> It definitely has a response delay
10:03:35 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Tehachapi isn't working due to snow on the solar panel.
10:03:43 <LindaGp> here is grand at about 9:21 churn starts. but i posted separate video.
10:03:54 <LindaGp> Kevin L™ 🌵, bummer
10:04:48 <Katie> Hi all
10:04:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi
10:05:07 <LindaGp> my husband and I watched it a bit. very mesmerizing
10:05:12 <LindaGp> Katie, hi
10:05:34 <LindaGp> bbl
10:05:52 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is a fun place.
10:06:36 <LindaG> I should bring it up on TV.
10:06:55 <LindaG> It's pretty scenery also, that helps
10:08:11 <LindaG> So are those all engines on front? I saw 4 o 5
10:08:50 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is. Spring is very pretty up there.
10:08:52 <LindaG> They said they were t4 Gevos, what does that mean?
10:09:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> If there are 4 or 5 it is usually the front. The distributed power units (DPUs) are usually done singly or in pairs.
10:11:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That is the type of engine. Gevo is a newer model and more efficient.
10:11:37 <Kevin L™ 🌵> The orange BNSF units are nick named "Pumpkins".
10:11:38 <LindaG> Ah
10:12:32 <LindaG> They were orange
10:13:48 <Kevin L™ 🌵> The diesel engine on trains does not directly power the train. It runs a generator that powers 6 electric motors in the axles.
10:14:48 <LindaG> Oh that makes sense
10:17:18 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is amazing that the loop was built in 1880 by people standing on the ground using crude survey instruments and slide rules. I don't know how they did that.
10:19:00 <LindaG> Related to egyptians, no doubt 😊
10:19:50 <Kevin L™ 🌵> If you load Google Maps and search Walong CA in satellite view you can see the course they had to take.
10:21:49 <LindaG> That would be interesting
10:22:12 <LindaG> I'm off to shop, hope i survive
10:22:15 <LindaG> Bbl
10:25:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Good luck
10:28:46 <Rice> Kevin L™ 🌵, Have you been following any of the news about the East Broad Top Narrow Gauge Railroad in PA?
10:29:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes! :) SOOOOOO glad to see that.
10:29:48 <Rice> Yea me too, I live close enough that I am going to volunteer this summer.
10:30:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sounds great. Things like that are a lot of fun.
10:30:58 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is nice to see history preserved. I thought EBT was gone forever.
10:31:44 <Rice> I was thinking the same thing, but they assembled an impressive group of guys to run it, I think they have a shot, I love the old belt driven shops
10:32:55 <kc (working)> OF
10:33:02 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That is cool. Didn't realize they had one of those. I know they used fish oil on them. Bet that smelled great in Summer.
10:36:18 <Kevin L™ 🌵> There is a rail train on the loop now.
10:38:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They bring in rail in quarter mile lengths and drop it. Looks like wet spaghetti.
10:45:32 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Thought you would enjoy this Rice:
10:51:15 <y92> How would you like to be the person that gets to put in fish plates every 1/4 mile?
10:52:02 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They do a field weld. Almost like a recasting.
10:54:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Field weld
10:54:23 <y92> I thought you posted this video.
10:55:37 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Amazing how such sold rail can bend like that!
10:59:43 <y92> They use the same thing to bond the ground wire to the ground rod in house electrical panels. Fun when it catches the framing on fire. Always helps to have some water handy.
11:00:05 <Eric> Morning all
11:00:20 <Eric> Kevin...pretty cool they can change the rotary direction...great video
11:00:47 <Eric> Does the rotary car have it's own power to push too, or just power for the rotary?
11:01:03 <Eric> Engines do all the pushing?
11:01:30 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I believe the engines do the pushing.
11:01:40 <y92> So how do they account for the rail lengthening when it goes from frozen to the sun shining on it?
11:03:08 <y92> I see water
11:03:27 <Kevin L™ 🌵> When they lay the rail the heat or cool it to a median temperature and then attach with anchors to the ties. The expansion and contraction is supposed to (key word is supposed) go up and down.
11:03:37 <y92> All the train buffs missed the castle
11:03:50 <Eric> I seriously doubt the rail lengthens an appreciable amount...probably more circumference.
11:04:10 <Eric> ohh, my cam was frozen up....
11:04:19 <Joe> I like trains but did not miss Castle :)
11:04:41 <Kevin L™ 🌵> There is an electrical connection so if it pulls apart it turns the signal red and sets off an alarm.
11:06:26 <y92> More then 10 people here, are we going to get in trouble?
11:06:50 <Joe> yes
11:06:58 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I have cyber wash on my computer.
11:09:19 <Mike J> I just figured it out. More than 10 people means (wait for it) the cam gets the virus. I just solved all the problems
11:10:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think it died already
11:10:18 <Joe> where would we be without you? Mike J
11:10:54 <Mike J> Joe, that is a question my wife asks every day. And I never like her answers.
11:11:06 <Joe> :)
11:17:02 <Rice> Kevin L™ 🌵, Steam Powered Rotary Snow Plow, that is great.
11:18:02 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Nevada Northern has a steam powered crane that is pretty awesome.
11:18:07 <Joe> Castle is major
11:18:16 <Mike J> Stupid question. I'm turned around looking at the cam. Is that Castle?
11:18:29 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Still steam in Daisy area but don't know if we missed it.
11:18:41 <y92> So they do some magic to the rail to keep it from changing length. With out the magic best i could find is a 1/4 mile section will lengthen 1 inch per 10 degree change.
11:18:42 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That is Castle Mike.
11:18:57 <Mike J> Thanks. Like I say, just turned around for some reason.
11:19:18 <Eric> wow...that much, way more than I would expect y92
11:19:22 <Kevin L™ 🌵> This cam has some great views
11:19:58 <Ryan(-171)> Pretty straight forward math, Eric :P
11:19:58 <Mike J> For all the problems and some of the views we've lost, I still love what we've gotten in exchange.
11:20:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Most common rail is 133 lb per yard, about 8" high.
11:20:28 <Dave from B™> Mike J, if you are turned around, you shouldn't be able to see the camera at all....unless you are an owl
11:20:51 <y92> Maybe he has crab eyes?
11:22:19 <y92> It feels like I can see in front and behind when I go down 14 from Burgess junction.
11:23:03 <Joe> for 26 degrees and 100% humidity, that is the 'smallest' Castle i have ever seen.
11:23:07 <y92> Also going from Cody to Cook there are some switchbacks where you can see your tail lights.
11:24:11 <Eric> Actually, not just math, but physics and metallurgy :-P
11:25:06 <Eric> I just learned way more about tensile and compressive stress than I ever knew before :-P
11:25:39 <Ryan(-171)> Rail is pretty linear. Thermal expansion is pretty much math at that point.
11:25:49 <Ryan(-171)> dx = kL
11:26:11 <Ryan(-171)> change in length = thermal expansion coefficient * length if rail
11:26:38 <Eric> not when you include a bunch of anchor points, ballasts and sleepers!
11:26:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> This is also an interesting tidbit:
11:26:58 <Ryan(-171)> Actuall it gets even more simple then.
11:26:59 <y92> But with out the magic, K would be a big number.
11:27:35 <Ryan(-171)> L is shorter, the supports are repetitious, and the whole system is, essentially, linear.
11:27:45 <Ryan(-171)> For an engineer, K is still just a number ;)
11:27:55 <Betty> hi all
11:28:03 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Everything fits on paper!
11:28:07 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi Betty
11:28:19 <Ryan(-171)> I've seen some pretty cringey things on paper from engineers, Kevin.
11:28:23 <Mike J> Time to go. Have fun.
11:28:40 <Betty> hi Kevin
11:28:53 <Ryan(-171)> Oddly enough I found compressive and tensile stresses from thermal expansion to be one of the easiest things to understand in my classes.
11:29:12 <Eric> Thats cool brother is in that sector of software. They let people like union pacific visual that data so they can detect failures faster.
11:30:21 <Dave from B™> Don't you guys all have work to do?:)
11:30:39 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They also run the rails with an Xray car and when they find a crack (even those too small to see) there is a field weld crew right behind them to fix it.
11:30:51 <Joe> work??
11:31:02 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Maynard!
11:31:07 <y92> I was watching a machinist friend machine a pipe flange for some secret project. I asked if they designed it to only work with a mated flange, because the degrees were not correct on the print for the number of hole.
11:32:13 <y92> He said no, it was just the computer and the engineer was to lazy to fix it. 90 degrees was like 90.012 or something like that.
11:33:34 <Eric> so so in dx = Kl, where is temp taken into account?
11:33:45 <Eric> that part of K?
11:34:22 <Ryan(-171)> dx = kL*dT - typo lol
11:35:29 <Eric> but the gist is that its just linear :-P
11:35:39 <Ryan(-171)> Yup
11:35:47 <Eric> even though K might be pretty crazy to figure out.
11:36:00 <Eric> with external forces
11:36:15 <Ryan(-171)> K is an internal proerty
11:36:18 <Ryan(-171)> property
11:36:23 <y92> Mother-in-law update. She got approval to go see the doctor and come back in to the facility. Doctor canceled the appointment because they are not seeing anyone over 60.
11:36:49 <Ryan(-171)> Sorry, 92. Our system is so screwed up
11:36:52 <y92> So I guess if you are over 60, you do not need to see a doctor.
11:37:05 <Eric> uggg, PITA
11:37:43 <Eric> I told my family...don't get sick or hurt, no doctors for the next 90 days!
11:38:31 <Betty> good plan :-)
11:38:43 <Eric> One thing I don't understand...why haven't gas prices crashed? Still $3/gallon here!
11:38:48 <Eric> Price fixing?
11:39:05 <Eric> Oil is super duper cheap, nobody is driving....
11:39:07 <Eric> Hi Betty
11:39:30 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We are around $2.55 here.
11:39:37 <Betty> our gas price went down, 25 cent per Liter down
11:39:48 <ynpvisitor12> theres often a lag between oil market price and gas station price
11:39:48 <Betty> hi Eric
11:40:20 <y92> Gas is a comodity. If the price goes up. it goes up fast. If the price goes down, it only goes down at the pump when they fill the tanks. No one buying, the price will fall slower.
11:40:31 <Eric> Yes, but oil prices have been dropping for a while! I think this is more in the line that refineries are artificially keeping the price up.
11:41:03 <y92> And yes they do price fixing based on market location.
11:41:08 <Eric> Interesting, but makes sense y92
11:41:10 <Joe> and during that lag, the states are increasing the tax per galon
11:41:27 <Eric> I don't mind paying taxes...someone has to pay for the roads.
11:41:52 <Dave from B™> That is called sticky down pricing....good business practice
11:41:56 <y92> That is what I say about bikes and electric cars.
11:42:16 <y92> They need to tax tires. like 100 bucks each tire.
11:43:06 <y92> More for fish trucks
11:43:22 <Eric> bikes and electric vehicles reduce pollution overall....they need to be encouraged, IMHO.
11:44:00 <Eric> But I agree, once we hit a saturation point of electric, road taxing will have to evolve with it.
11:44:14 <y92> When no one is buying fuel, who is going to pay for the bike lanes and roads?
11:45:39 <y92> They will never tax bike riding, so tax the tire. Way to easy and the government types would never do it as they would not need a bunch of people to collect the tax.
11:46:00 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Charge $1000 per bike.
11:46:28 <Eric> Why tax people getting exercise and doing no road damage? Give tax credit to bicyclists.
11:46:38 <y92> Too much for a kid, and a avid rider would get a deal.
11:47:06 <Eric> Out of shape motorists have a higher toll on our society than bicylists.
11:47:24 <y92> Not paying for damage, paying for construction and maintenance.
11:47:38 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Charge $1000 tax for being overweight.
11:48:08 <y92> Tax fried shrimp
11:48:10 <Eric> Or a TV tax, if you watch it, you have to pay $10/hour to the state to fund your funeral.
11:48:17 <Joe> now there goes all my money :)
11:48:48 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Same with watching the OF cam....
11:48:52 <ynpvisitor12> if a bike tax is $1000 overweight would be $100000
11:48:55 <Eric> true that :-P
11:49:16 <Ryan(-171)> Who says the excercising community isnt self-entitled :P
11:49:22 <Eric> Agree with that 12 :-D Get out an exercise!
11:49:27 <Ryan(-171)> or the general outdoors community
11:49:33 <Eric> Caving counts :-D
11:49:47 <Eric> I have seen the places you go get a serious workout!
11:49:48 <Ryan(-171)> i didnt exclude it
11:50:08 <Eric> You are a caving beast! Love all your pics
11:50:18 <Ryan(-171)> cavers by and large have a large self-entitlement problem than geyser gazers do
11:50:23 <Eric> Congrats on the new cave too
11:50:44 <Ryan(-171)> Thanks :P Going to check it out tonight after work. The day is going sloooowwww
11:51:06 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Good shot of laying rail on tehachapi cam right now.
11:51:13 <Eric> Interesting note...Amazon is not allowing sellers to restock the amazon warehouse unless you are selling essentials.
11:51:39 <Eric> They are prioritizing household goods, food, medicine, ...
11:51:41 <Ryan(-171)> interesting indeed. I ordered a new book for my library. Glad it shipped out in time.
11:51:50 <Ryan(-171)> "How to Photograph an Atomic Bomb"
11:52:04 <Eric> Yes, they will still ship other things...they just are not going to restock them until the crisis is over.
11:52:10 <Eric> Nice!
11:52:39 <Dave from B™> It's not Amazon's job to tell us what we can and can't buy
11:52:48 <Ryan(-171)> I think "Trinity and Beyond" and "Atomic Filmmakers" are the best two documentaries ever made. This book is written by the director and producer of both.
11:53:14 <Ryan(-171)> No, but it is Amazon's job to decide what they will and wont sell.
11:53:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I saw the bombs but never took a picture.
11:53:38 <Joe> Dave, Jeff runs the world :)
11:53:40 <Ryan(-171)> I give it two thumbs up. Its the free market taking steps to help the country.
11:54:11 <Ryan(-171)> Kevin L, I can only imagine. The photos and videos from the tests are some of the most stunningly beautiful works of art I have ever seen.
11:54:30 <Dave from B™> As far as I'm concerned Amazon should be blown up. Online companies like that are ruining the world
11:54:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They have some good ones. Great museum here about it.
11:54:49 <Eric> They are changing it...that is for sure.
11:54:57 <Ryan(-171)> I do agree it should be broken up at least.
11:55:05 <Ryan(-171)> Its a borderline monopoly
11:55:47 <Dave from B™> Exactly
11:56:05 <Eric> But what is the reason? They drive down the prices for consumers and increase ability for smaller companies to enter the market.
11:56:39 <Eric> They are not a monopoly....millions of business sell directly to consumers through amazon.
11:57:07 <Eric> I find them more akin to the mafia :-P
11:57:13 <Eric> They just take their share.
11:58:13 <Eric> But I understand it makes being middle tier business much more difficult.
11:58:13 <Joe> I can remember when they laughed at that Amazon startup
11:58:29 <y92> Speaking of monopoly. Did you hear Bill retired?
11:58:40 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I like the fact that I can find things there that would not be profitable otherwise. Helps a lot of smaller sellers have international access. I buy a lot of stuff from Goodwill via Amazon.
11:58:47 <Eric> They were loosing millions of dollars each quarter for a long time.
11:59:13 <Eric> Exactly Kevin! It actually really helps a lot of small businesses.
11:59:43 <y92> I still go to the store.
12:00:29 <Eric> I support my local stores for things that make sense! Fresh food, produce, meat, fish, ....
12:00:54 <Ryan(-171)> I really enjoyed having Radio Shack around.
12:00:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I like Goodwill. They give a segment of society a job they would not normally get and it allows them the ability to be productive citizens.
12:01:11 <y92> You do not mail order fish from Montana?
12:01:32 <Ryan(-171)> My rate of building small self projects has slowed substantially since they closed.
12:01:44 <Ryan(-171)> It was great being able to fit parts in the store.
12:01:48 <y92> Goodwill here is over priced, and the ceo is way over paid.
12:01:53 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I do miss Radio Shack. Could have used them yesterday when my cable had an attitude problem.
12:02:15 <Ryan(-171)> Yup, easy to drive open and grab some parts and fix it.
12:02:24 <Dave from B™> Before the virus hit, we have had discussion of a commerce website where people can place orders but it costs a ton
12:02:28 <Joe> Things come and go, remember Heathkit, most of you are too young
12:02:33 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Did you ever do a Heathkit Ryan?
12:02:41 <Eric> I spent my fair share of time in Radio Shack too :-D
12:02:42 <Kevin L™ 🌵> :)
12:03:26 <Ryan(-171)> I njever made one. Actually I never made any kit.
12:03:30 <Eric> Yep, think of your online store like your real store. It costs money to build!
12:03:34 <Ryan(-171)> All opf my stuff was self designed.
12:03:50 <y92> Dave, it does, and then you need to keep it running. Almost easier to just do phone orders.
12:03:54 <Eric> I built a heath kit radio Kevin :-D
12:04:13 <Ryan(-171)> Eric, have you ever had to buy every part for a circuit board and build it from scratch>
12:04:20 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We built an AM radio transmitter using parts including a hand wound coil on a toilet paper tube.
12:04:25 <Eric> There are so many packages out there to make it straight forward, and services that can handle 90% of it for you.
12:04:29 <Ryan(-171)> If you have and find it no different to use parts you've never seen then you're lying or insane.
12:04:59 <Betty> OF window
12:05:01 <Eric> Well, I have bread boarded quite a few things...never soldered a full circuit board
12:05:29 <Ryan(-171)> Exceptionally different witha breadboard.
12:05:32 <y92> Never etched and drilled your own board?
12:05:39 <Eric> I was talking to Dave, Ryan :-D
12:05:42 <Ryan(-171)> Much easier. Even the perf boards were easier.
12:05:43 <Eric> Not you
12:05:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Remember vacuum tube. I don't miss those!
12:05:54 <Betty> Depression
12:06:04 <Ryan(-171)> y92 - I have actually :lol:
12:06:18 <Joe> you will be ok Betty :)
12:06:22 <y92> Kevin thinking of no races till May?
12:06:25 <Ryan(-171)> I ended up have a service make them for me but my first few flash gun boards were etched and drilled.
12:06:29 <Ryan(-171)> Royal PIA
12:06:34 <Eric> I have an EE buddy who builds his own stuff...was never into that level of electrical design. Too much tinkering.
12:06:41 <Betty> I know IPA
12:06:47 <Betty> hi Joe
12:06:54 <Ryan(-171)> I use somethings that I have no choice but to make my own.
12:06:57 <Joe> Hi betty :)
12:07:15 <Eric> Bread boards can accomplish 90% of that kinda stuff
12:07:15 <y92> Well, time to go, enjoy the bee sneeze.
12:07:18 <Dave from B™> Eric, my son and daughter are thinking of tackling the project
12:07:21 <Eric> Cya 92
12:07:33 <Eric> Look at woocommerce, lots of people use it.
12:07:37 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Bye 92
12:07:41 <Ryan(-171)> After years of using things that just barely worked, I made my own that worked flawlessly. Myself and another photographer made a series of flashguns to fire flashbulbs on a radio sync.
12:07:42 <Dave from B™> Thanks Eric
12:07:49 <Eric> Higher a local college software engineer as an intern over the summer to help.
12:08:11 <Ryan(-171)> It was a several hundred dollar and two year final push to make the flashguns.
12:08:26 <Eric> Nice
12:08:29 <Ryan(-171)> Designed for cave environments.
12:08:43 <Ryan(-171)> We made lots of other cave photographers jealous because I wont share the design.
12:08:53 <Eric> the new tiny pi's would be great for i/o and wifi for $5
12:09:06 <Ryan(-171)> And I wont make them for others. We stopped complaining and busted our ass to make them.
12:09:25 <Ryan(-171)> Too complex. The synchronizing between camera and analog bulb is delicate.
12:09:45 <Ryan(-171)> I did a trial run with an arduino micro, still way too complex on both ends.
12:09:58 <Eric> where is the complexity?
12:10:02 <Ryan(-171)> I eventually made my own analog circuit which relayed into a digital circuit to fire flashbulbs.
12:10:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Have you ever seen O Winston Links work Ryan?
12:10:38 <Ryan(-171)> Flashbulbs have a delay of roughly 15 milliseconds from closing a circuit until they fire.
12:10:48 <Joe> OF 1210
12:10:52 <Ryan(-171)> Furthermore, digital systems run oon 5v, bulbs run on 25V
12:11:25 <Ryan(-171)> AND all modern cameras are set up for "X" sync which synchronizes a digital strobe to a digital shutter.
12:11:58 <Ryan(-171)> Film cameras had a different sync system. We effectively had to make an analog circuit to fire the bulbs as fast an possible, and get the camera to trip.
12:12:14 <Ryan(-171)> And do it right - every single time without fail.
12:12:30 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Pretty complicated stuff.
12:12:34 <Ryan(-171)> Oh, and make it water proof and impact resistent.
12:12:37 <JarnoO> static looks pretty
12:12:47 <JarnoO> afternoon all, evening Betty
12:12:56 <Ryan(-171)> I did the electronics. Jacob Lieber made the plastic boxes and user interface.
12:13:23 <Betty> evening JarnoO
12:14:31 <Ryan(-171)>
12:14:37 <Eric> What are you using for your RF signaling?
12:14:50 <Ryan(-171)>
12:15:09 <Ryan(-171)>
12:15:20 <Ryan(-171)> It let us take some photos that quite simply were never possible before.
12:15:36 <Ryan(-171)> Standard camera/flash radio slaves.
12:16:04 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Totally awesome.
12:16:15 <ynpvisitor34> National Parks to close facilities where people gather
12:16:32 <Ryan(-171)> Those were Jake's photos. I took ones that were less spectacular but still not doable without those slaves.
12:17:28 <Betty> awesome pictures, Ryan(-171)!
12:18:06 <Dave from B™> That does in SB platform then
12:18:08 <Joe> good work Ryan, lots of hard work to develop those, that should make you lots of money when you are ready to promote :)
12:19:04 <Ryan(-171)> OK I guess I took one good photos with them haha
12:19:14 <Ryan(-171)> PAss the congrats along to Jake. Those are his photos.
12:19:40 <Ryan(-171)> Thanks, Joe. Market real small. At $200 to make each one, we'd sell for probably $600+ to make each one.
12:20:12 <Ryan(-171)> Pretty small market, too. Probably never make money off it. So I shose the personal satisfication of having a tool no one else has.
12:20:51 <Ryan(-171)> But yeah, to start this off. Not having radio shack was a royal PIA.
12:21:10 <Ryan(-171)> Especially when the circuit design was trail and error.
12:21:37 <Joe> satisfaction in developing for your hobby, and when people decided they need them, you will have a great buisness going for you
12:21:51 <Ryan(-171)> No way to calculate internal resistances of a flashbulb and all attempts to measure it just set the little bastards off.
12:22:24 <Ryan(-171)> In my face and fingers. 15,000,000 lumens to my face and several hundred degrees in my fingers.
12:23:21 <JarnoO> can you still see around you after being exposed to all those lumens? :)
12:23:38 <JarnoO> doesn't sound fun regardless
12:23:39 <Ryan(-171)> It takes a few seconds even in day time.
12:23:59 <Ryan(-171)> The last time I had one of the big ones go off in my face I felt my eyeballs heat up and my stomach instantly got nauseated.
12:24:14 <Ryan(-171)> Needless to say, you're not supposed to have one go off inches from your face!
12:24:33 <JarnoO> ouch
12:25:00 <Ryan(-171)> Though, on occasion, they do explode. Like... sound like a rifle going off. And send glass everywhere. I'll take the rare flash over the super rare explosions.
12:25:17 <Ryan(-171)> My girlfriend once had one explode in her face on rope in a 250ft pit.
12:25:31 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Ouch!
12:25:35 <Ryan(-171)> It is usually when they get wet.
12:25:47 <Ryan(-171)> It was one of those huge crew base ones, Kevin.
12:26:00 <Ryan(-171)> screw base* The No 3 or No 50 if I remember right.
12:26:52 <Ryan(-171)> BSB
12:26:57 <Ryan(-171)> ie, I think
12:27:13 <JarnoO> perhaps you could encase them in borosilicate glass? Much more heat resistant than regular glass as far as I know
12:27:45 <Ryan(-171)> They have a plastic around them that shrinks when heated.
12:28:02 <Ryan(-171)> So the shattered glass is held together.
12:28:09 <JarnoO> ah, smart move
12:28:24 <Ryan(-171)> Sometimes you get water between the glass and plastic. Then the aluminum/zirconium filament goes off and POW.
12:28:46 <Betty> I´d love to see GMB
12:30:34 <Ryan(-171)> Pretty sure BSB ie is
12:30:52 <Ryan(-171)> Plus heavy BH splashing too
12:34:08 <Betty> BSB is only steaming I think. Did you see water?
12:34:27 <Ryan(-171)> Pretty sure
12:34:38 <Ryan(-171)> Give it like ten minutes. Looked like it ended with the heavy splashes.
12:34:45 <Betty> nice
12:36:29 <Ryan(-171)> BSB
12:36:36 <Ryan(-171)> 136ns
12:36:50 <Ryan(-171)> 1236ns, it was ie at 1226 too
12:41:54 <JarnoO> Indy steaming I thin
12:41:56 <JarnoO> k
12:42:20 <Ryan(-171)> Water in indy I think
12:42:24 <Eric> BH is ready to rock
12:42:29 <Eric> yep...BHI steam
12:42:31 <JarnoO> Indy
12:42:31 <JarnoO> .
12:42:32 <JarnoO> .
12:42:33 <JarnoO> .
12:42:34 <JarnoO> .
12:42:35 <JarnoO> .
12:42:35 <Ryan(-171)> Water in BHI i will get the text
12:42:37 <Eric> boom
12:42:50 <Betty> yeah
12:42:52 <Eric> might be a short indy.
12:43:02 <Joe> text sent
12:43:25 <Eric> txt received
12:43:38 <Dave from B™> Thanks
12:43:40 <Betty> nice catch with the steam
12:44:03 <Ryan(-171)> Wish it was more certain, would give us more time.
12:44:07 <Eric> received again!
12:44:25 <Dave from B™> Thanks again
12:44:26 <Joe> I think Ryan sent also
12:45:17 <kc (working)> i'm getting 'media could not be loaded' message all day
12:45:20 <KevinS> Thanks for text
12:45:53 <Joe> reset your flash
12:46:00 <Ryan(-171)> Mine noted the energetic series.
12:46:05 <Ryan(-171)> Hmm, not sure whats up kc
12:46:13 <JarnoO> perhaps it's an idea to make some kind of timetable for who will send a text each day or so. Would prevent double texts
12:46:40 <Ryan(-171)> I usually take it if I am here
12:46:47 <Joe> double texts are great!@!
12:46:53 <kc (working)> same msg on laptop
12:47:01 <JarnoO> okay, okay. I said nothing
12:47:07 <ynpvisitor60> Thanks for the text
12:48:01 <Eric> I defer to the current camera operator
12:48:20 <Eric> Maybe your company is blocking the stream KC
12:48:45 <kc (working)> i'm on my home network. home computer and laptop computer both no go
12:48:55 <Eric> weird
12:49:00 <kc (working)> windows did an update last night, that's the only change
12:49:03 <Eric> try park website
12:49:10 <Eric> different browser?
12:49:19 <JarnoO> mine did too, kc, but no chances to how flash works
12:49:56 <kc (working)> not working on any computer or any browser
12:50:12 <Eric> That makes me think it's your network
12:50:16 <Eric> blocking
12:50:25 <Joe> Have you clicked on the item near https and went to site settings and allowed flash
12:50:32 <kc (working)> swell. yeah flash is allowed
12:50:50 <Eric> did park service stream work?
12:51:09 <kc (working)> nope
12:51:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Did you try tossing cookies?
12:51:30 <JarnoO> you can always do /getvideo... Not ideal, but it's there
12:51:35 <Eric> not going to be cookies if the stream is failing
12:52:02 <Eric> try resetting your wireless router
12:52:04 <ynpvisitor60> I have the same problem yesterday too computer no go kindle fire ok
12:52:22 <kc (working)> I am hard wired but will try
12:52:23 <Eric> Sometimes routers get bad routes in them :-(
12:52:34 <Eric> well, your router in general
12:52:42 <Eric> Also could be a DNS issue with your provider
12:52:54 <Eric> you could try changing your DNS servers to use googles
12:52:58 <JarnoO> turning it off and on again works surprisingly well in most cases
12:53:05 <lindaGp> thx for text
12:53:13 <JarnoO> afternoon Linda
12:53:23 <Ryan(-171)> BHI is taking its time because I noted the energetic BSB haha
12:53:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> How was shopping?
12:53:25 <lindaGp> JarnoO, hi
12:53:30 <Eric> kc is pretty technically savvy :-D
12:54:01 <Eric> He has been streaming this stream much longer than me :-D
12:54:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> And me too!
12:54:30 <GE©> Question. Why no video stream on this page--spinning circle-, but NPS page OK
12:55:00 <Eric> You have to allow flash or flip the Flash Streaming to off over on the right side Settings pane
12:55:08 <Eric> then refresh
12:55:26 <Eric> Hi GE
12:55:33 <Dave from B™> GE, it is just you and kc
12:55:40 <JarnoO> :bee:
12:55:49 <Eric> I think GE is just technical hiccup
12:55:58 <Eric> wooohooo
12:55:58 <JarnoO> Hive at 1255
12:56:03 <Eric> gusher!
12:56:06 <JarnoO> and it rhymes
12:56:37 <Eric> another BH alert?
12:56:40 <Joe> Kevin are you bset up to send text
12:56:43 <sparekitty> beautiful!
12:56:48 <JarnoO> it is
12:56:57 <Eric> We don't need BH alerts, whoever sent that
12:57:07 <ynpvisitor94> Nice
12:57:10 <Joe> not I
12:57:14 <Ryan(-171)> That was me, I've been sending them
12:57:28 <Eric> Lets not over txt people :-D
12:57:49 <Ryan(-171)> Several have commented the follow up text is nice. It means they can stop running to a computer.
12:58:06 <Eric> Why stop running? Get it!
12:58:10 <Eric> It's still going
12:58:20 <Ryan(-171)> Sigh. I won't argue everything.
12:58:30 <Eric> Thanks :-D
12:58:31 <JarnoO> I've got the intention to put this Beehive on youtube, by the way
12:58:43 <Ryan(-171)> I've been sending the texts and will continue doing so.
12:58:51 <Eric> unthanks
12:58:59 <Eric> :-P
13:01:14 <ynpvisitor113> I like the text when it starts Ryan
13:01:25 <ynpvisitor113> Very helpful
13:03:38 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Ugh.
13:03:43 <Betty> oh well, it´s moving, now BH is over... :-(
13:03:57 <Eric> Well, I guess someone else wants it too...most people have voiced over time they want minimal txt messages.
13:04:25 <Eric> But I guess people can unsubscribe if that becomes and issue and we can just setup a separate txt system.
13:05:28 <Dave from B™> Hey, could you guys send a text when Little cub starts?:D
13:05:46 <Eric> You wanna know about sponge too Dave?
13:06:03 <Joe> I think some got tired of extra texts when cam up cam down texts would be sent last year :)
13:06:28 <JarnoO> is there some kind of steam vent south-east of Indy? I saw steam originating from there a few seconds before Indy started to steam, and it does not appear to be coming from Bee's water
13:07:01 <Eric> could have just been bhi overflow?
13:07:29 <Ryan(-171)> Its just BHI, JarnoO.
13:07:32 <JarnoO> could be. I'm not that familiar with BHI's behaviour pre-eruption
13:07:44 <JarnoO> oki, thanks both
13:07:49 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Glas BH went when it did.
13:07:56 <Ryan(-171)> It fills with water before erupting. Sometimes it fills and overflows, sometimes it doesnt fill and just gurgles and then starts erupting.
13:07:58 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Glad
13:08:33 <JarnoO> thanks, Ryan. I'm starting the video just before that steam appears
13:09:01 <JarnoO> didn't get BSB on the capture, though. Just a minute too late
13:09:10 <Rice> Eric, BTW, I love /getvideo
13:09:20 <Eric> Cool...glad you guys are liking it.
13:09:41 <Eric> I added a script to detect if the video gets stale too, so we should be pretty bullet proof now.
13:10:22 <Rice> Perfect for me who had to go check on a truck, and missed it.
13:10:52 <Eric> Let me know if duration of that video should change...shorter or longer.
13:11:14 <Eric> wondering if I can actually let people pick the length like /getvideo 5
13:11:19 <Eric> would give you 5 minutes
13:11:48 <Rice> You are at 15 now?, that is fine with me give a little room
13:12:36 <Eric> I think about 17 minutes total
13:15:10 <Joe> Dave LC is erupting give me your phone# and I'll text you :)
13:15:19 <Betty> send a text, LC ie
13:15:30 <Betty> lol, Joe
13:15:59 <Joe> Aurum??
13:16:10 <Eric> looks hot, but don't see water
13:16:25 <Joe> nope not yet
13:17:13 <Eric> We really do need notifications on GT...then people could be txt messaged on whatever GT entry they want :-D
13:17:24 <Eric> BHI or BH or BSB
13:17:37 <Eric> or LC :-P
13:17:40 <Dave from B™> Kevin sent me a text:)
13:17:49 <Joe> :)
13:17:53 <Eric> Good job Kevin
13:17:54 <Dave from B™> I might have to change my number if you all text me:)
13:18:11 <Betty> well done Kevin
13:18:14 <Eric> You know you can block numbers Dave :-P
13:18:39 <Dave from B™> Good thing Google knows how to do stuff
13:19:58 <Joe> Lion
13:20:37 <Joe> or not
13:22:31 <Dave from B™> Off to see my mom after she has been moved to her new room at old facility. I'll bbl. Take care everyone.
13:22:55 <Betty> stay healthy
13:23:01 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Take care Dave. Good luck.
13:23:02 <JarnoO> cya Dave. Take care of yourself, too
13:23:47 <Eric> Good luck Dave...scrub your hands like a surgeon!
13:24:03 <Eric> lunch time for me....bbl
13:24:09 <JarnoO> cya Eric
13:24:29 <Betty> srub you lunch like a surgeon, Eric
13:24:56 <JarnoO> video is rendering now. At 65%
13:29:49 <JarnoO> Riverside
13:30:12 <JarnoO> 16h55m triple interval I think
13:30:42 <kc (working)> still no go. rebooted modem, router. confirmed flash is enabled
13:31:05 <kc (working)> when I go to adobe web site, it still says "Adobe Flash Player is built-in, but may be disabled." no matter what
13:31:27 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Did you click flash to off on this page?
13:31:36 <JarnoO> what browser are you using?
13:31:59 <kc (working)> chrome FF and edge
13:32:51 <Joe> I think Kevin hit the nail
13:33:43 <JarnoO> ETA for 1242 Indy and 1255 Beehive is 15 minutes. Dradded 1.6 GB file
13:33:45 <kc> there is no "off" only "block" and it won't work with Allow or Block
13:34:08 <Betty> at settings, kc
13:34:11 <Joe> on this page settings
13:34:47 <kc> yes, on chrome I clock the lock symbol. site settings
13:34:59 <ynpvisitor60> also a lock symbol on edge
13:35:16 <JarnoO> SC wants to go
13:35:20 <kcmule> trying every permutation
13:35:22 <Joe> flash streaming on the right in settings
13:35:22 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Not on Chrome, the settings box on the chat page.
13:35:59 <Joe> make your off dark blue
13:36:08 <ynpvisitor18> I have to do that every time
13:36:20 <Betty> where the green box says: Òf webcam is up`
13:36:31 <kc> yep I'm trying it both On and Off, no go
13:36:50 <Betty> try one and refresh
13:36:50 <JarnoO> SC
13:37:13 <Betty> maybe crtl + F5?
13:38:04 <Betty> or you had a firewall update?
13:38:31 <kc (working)> okay I got it working by toggling it back and forth several times. suddenly it starts working. but when I refresh the page it gives me the error again
13:38:42 <JarnoO> weird
13:38:58 <kc (working)> totally. this all started with last night's windows update
13:38:59 <JarnoO> it never does that for me
13:40:57 <kc (working)> it says 'plugin disabled' when I even try to go to the adobe flash download page
13:41:03 <kc (working)> seems like it is trying to fight me
13:41:21 <JarnoO> SC dying down
13:41:22 <JarnoO> OF
13:41:30 <kc (working)> every once in a while i get a msg saying 'adobe flash will not be supported in dec 2020' or words to that effect
13:43:41 <LindaGt> Kevin L™ 🌵, train cam is back
13:47:34 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It has a rail laying train on it.
13:51:47 <JarnoO> OF 1341 d=3m16s medium
13:52:03 <ynpvisitor57> How was the bee sneeze?
13:53:16 <JarnoO> Here's the video of today's Bee:
13:53:39 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It was a good one. Right before snow.
13:54:06 <ynpvisitor57> Thanks, and good.
13:55:29 <ynpvisitor57> Kevin, they make little Thermit welders for n-gauge track?
13:56:19 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am lucky not to burn it with a soldering iron!
13:57:39 <ynpvisitor57> Dave could sell thermit cookers for fish.
13:57:49 <ynpvisitor12> nice video, how do you get it to not have pauses in it?
14:00:24 <JarnoO> I can't, because that's the source video which stutters (which stutters due to presumably connectivity issues between the cam and the server)
14:01:27 <ynpvisitor57> Subscribe to the priority web cam feed.
14:01:32 <JarnoO> I could perhaps find out a way to filter out the stutters, but I'd be busy doing that all night
14:02:38 <ynpvisitor57> The T1 is most likely running on copper Kevin's Grandfather put in after he finished the rock work at Zion.
14:02:50 <JarnoO> :)
14:03:37 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is a knob and tube installation.
14:04:14 <ynpvisitor57> Blue knobs on poles.
14:05:12 <ynpvisitor57> The rail road abandoned all of them, you would think the phone company would also.
14:06:12 <ynpvisitor57> Only wire they still use is for rock fall detectors I bet. That will get replace some day with fancy sensors like the wheel monitors.
14:06:57 <ynpvisitor57> Well, lunch is over. enjoy the steam
14:07:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I can see video used for rockslides.
14:10:24 <ynpvisitor12> I watched the Beehive video and didn't see any pauses so i thought it was very good
14:10:33 <JarnoO> oh, like a so
14:12:16 <JarnoO> in that case, I used /getvideo for the video sources
14:12:52 <JarnoO> sources, because /getvideo doesn't give more than 15-ish minutes of video
14:14:30 <Joe> cam was doing remarkably well during BH I have no pauses on my recording
14:15:44 <Joe> but now at =.5 frame rate many pauses
14:18:04 <Joe> we will see what happens in April :)
14:22:33 <ynpvisitor12> ah so maybe it was just lucky timing :)
14:22:43 <ynpvisitor12> very nice video thank you
14:23:41 <JarnoO> thanks :)
14:42:02 <Betty> bulger ie
14:42:28 <Betty> more likely gone
14:42:48 <Betty> but OT is
14:58:07 <Betty> didn´t CC say they rebooted?
14:58:53 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes. We are gonna need a bigger boot.
14:59:23 <Betty> failings over failings
15:04:59 <LindaGt> A real big boot!
15:05:24 <Betty> hi LindaGt
15:05:33 <LindaGt> Betty, hi
15:10:06 <LindaGt> OF
15:10:38 <LindaGt> I didnt catch the start on OFZ
15:10:52 <LindaGt> *Of
15:11:04 <Kevin L™ 🌵> 1509
15:14:44 <LindaGt> I put as a long
15:15:17 <Joe> good, it was
15:15:42 <LindaGt> Well then that's good 😊
15:23:21 <Joe> Get all the geysers you can before dark, there will be none after dark :)
15:24:08 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Mean cloud on static
15:29:16 <LindaGt> Looks like it means business!
15:30:11 <LindaGt> Ok I'll work double time tonight
15:33:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> BTW Linda they cancelled my Dr appointment for tomorrow so I will be able to do my normal shift.
15:33:42 <LindaGt> Kevin L™ 🌵, great
15:34:18 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We can't go to the dentist or doctor but I can get toilet paper now.
15:35:10 <Eric> Yep, my dentist closed his doors for 3 weeks
15:35:24 <Eric> I believe the ADA is making this recommendation.
15:35:33 <LindaGt> LindaGt, 😊good deal
15:35:39 <Eric> Will still do emergency procedures if necessary
15:35:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I went yesterday and they watched me wash my hands and made me gargle with peroxide. :P
15:36:28 <LindaGt> Peroxide? Yuck.
15:36:51 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I felt like I had rabies.
15:37:09 <LindaGt> 😆
15:40:34 <LindaGt> Grand went big this morning. I posted a video of it and one of churn, which went big also 😉
15:41:02 <Eric> love the bison on mammoth static :-P
15:41:19 <Eric> This is my road, thank you!
15:41:28 <Eric> ahhh, gone now
15:41:46 <Eric> plowing west entrance on static!
15:41:57 <Eric> snow is flying
16:00:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Controls released.
16:00:44 <LindaGt> Thx
16:09:35 <LindaGp> grand
16:09:36 <LindaGp> .
16:09:36 <LindaGp> .
16:09:55 <Betty> yay
16:10:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> About time
16:12:04 <Dave from B™> woohoo
16:12:27 <Kevin L™ 🌵> How is your Mom doing?
16:13:23 <LindaGp> nice spikes
16:26:00 <LindaGp> white bugs
16:26:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> :P
16:29:15 <Betty> time for sleep, happy birthday, Graham :-) night all
16:29:33 <JarnoO> night Betty
16:33:14 <LindaGp> Betty, night
16:34:57 <Dave from B™> Kevin, my mom is happy to be back in her old building
16:35:22 <Dave from B™> Even though she thinks there are candy wrappers all over the floor and a horse out her window.:)
16:41:39 <LindaGp> .😊 my mom used to see faces in the curtains
16:45:36 <JarnoO> I have a slightly inclined thinking in that seeing candy wrappers over the floor and a horse outside is better than faces in curtains
16:46:27 <LindaGp> it was usually my sister she saw so it wasn't scary
16:46:44 <JarnoO> that helps
16:47:33 <Dave from B™> You can only laugh about it. She says her glasses are broken and I have a big scratch on my face and my pants are dirty
16:48:24 <Dave from B™> The sad part is she is not allowed any outside visitors for who knows how long and she is quarantined in her room for 14 days becasue she came from another facility
16:48:45 <LindaGp> while in the home my mom.was convinced she went to a friend's funeral, so we let her think it
16:48:49 <Dave from B™> That's what I feel bad about...her isolation
16:50:54 <LindaGp> It's difficult I'm sure
16:52:04 <Dave from B™> This virus is going to cause a lot of mental issues for many many people; even us youngins
16:52:17 <LindaGp> OF
17:01:09 <JarnoO> OF's duration was ≥3m54s. Cam was panned away a few seconds too soon to see the final jets.
17:01:51 <JarnoO> I should say - to see if the final jets were actually the final jets :)
17:06:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> My Dad would always see water coming from the ceiling.
17:06:44 <LindaGp> interesting the different things they saw
17:06:58 <LindaGp> and see
17:07:19 <LindaGp> horses and candy wrappers sounds nice
17:07:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Then he asked a nurse if she could tell the construction workers (none there) if she could tell them to quit putting their pipes on his legs.
17:08:03 <JarnoO> priorities
17:08:42 <Dave from B™> We will all be there someday. Makes you want to enjoy every day to the fullest
17:09:02 <LindaGp> yup we will
17:09:15 <Dave from B™> Time to help Cole close the market in 20 minutes. Have a great evening everyone!
17:09:19 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Exactly
17:09:37 <LindaGp> Dave from B™, have a good night
17:09:54 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Good night
17:10:06 <JarnoO> cya Dave, have a good night too
17:14:14 <LindaGp> daisy hasnt been seen in a while
17:15:32 <JarnoO> its area looked steamy, so maybe it'll go soon
17:16:40 <JarnoO> doggies at Lion, by the way
17:20:57 <JarnoO> appears to have been steam from Castle
17:23:34 <JarnoO> and snow's making viewing conditions worse again :(
17:23:43 <JarnoO> as if it knows we want to see Daisy
17:25:02 <LindaGp> don't get paranoid lol
17:35:59 <JarnoO> Bulger ie
17:36:13 <JarnoO> OT too?
17:36:34 <LindaGp> yes
17:36:38 <JarnoO> yay
17:38:01 <LindaGp> churn erupted during grand this morning
17:38:31 <JarnoO> I saw the entry. Am yet to watch the video, though
17:38:41 <JarnoO> doggie in the trees
17:39:27 <LindaGp> I attached in gt
17:39:48 <JarnoO> can't tell if Churn's ie now
17:40:30 <LindaGp> it's steamy but don't see water
17:45:20 <JarnoO> nice video, thanks Linda
17:45:45 <LindaGp> yw
17:46:25 <LindaGp> did you watch grand too, it was huge
17:47:35 <LindaGp> m going to start dinner and leave here. but I'm watching
17:47:49 <JarnoO> enjoy dinner
17:47:55 <JarnoO> afternoon Jeff
17:48:06 <Jeff> evening JarnoO
17:49:20 <LindaGp> this is better, in case lion wants to do something
17:49:57 <JarnoO> the little things :)
17:50:47 <LindaGp> lion
17:50:51 <JarnoO> Lion ini
17:50:51 <Jeff> speaking of lion lol
17:50:58 <JarnoO> such a coincidence :D
17:51:07 <LindaGp> it heard me
17:52:24 <JarnoO> actually, appears to not be initial. Started way too quickly for that
17:54:19 <JarnoO> and too quickly done too :)
17:54:52 <Jeff> yea the timing was too short for the ini
17:59:56 <LindaGp> doggies have a path
18:00:31 <Jeff> looks like their heading towards lower hams lol
18:01:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They want a milkshake.
18:02:17 <Jeff> ill make them as many as they want and give them the portobello burger lol
18:02:34 <LindaGp> 😊
18:09:10 <Jeff> i just need to make it through 2 more weeks lol
18:09:55 <LindaGp> Jeff, geez I hope they don't close it on you
18:10:29 <Jeff> as of right now i havent heard anything different so my plans are unaffected
18:10:47 <LindaGp> 👍
18:11:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That is the worst thing. They shut things down with no notice.
18:11:47 <ynpvisitor18> stay tuned
18:12:55 <Jeff> ive been keeping an eye out for an email that will change my plans
18:13:49 <LindaGp> I know Moab told people not to come
18:14:12 <LindaGp> but don't think it was the NPS
18:14:29 <Kevin L™ 🌵> My train says they plan on running still but who knows?
18:14:57 <Jeff> i found out today that dry tortugas was closed
18:15:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am watching an episode of Adam 12. Gas is 38 cents a gallon.
18:15:15 <LindaGp> GC is shutting certain things down
18:16:29 <Jeff> im looking at the dry tortugas site right now and all visitor stations are closed, visitor activities are closed. only thing remaining open is camping
18:19:17 <Jeff> i wish gas was 38 cents a gallon again Kevin
18:19:40 <LindaGp> amen to that
18:19:44 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Wouldn't that be nice.
18:20:11 <LindaGp> I remember when it was $.50
18:20:15 <Jeff> especially since i just bought a new car a few months ago and i need premium for it lol
18:20:27 <Jeff> i remember when it was $1.50
18:20:29 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Ugh!
18:21:12 <LindaGp> that was in the 70s boy I'm old
18:21:28 <Jeff> im 31
18:22:01 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I remember getting a buck for lunch. There were 3 of us. We would go to the A&W get a burger, fries, and root beer and 3 gallons of gas with the change!
18:22:05 <LindaGp> I plead the 5th
18:23:04 <Jeff> i wish i could get an A&W burger fries root beer and 3 gallons of gas for that cheap
18:23:26 <LindaGp> I used to mooch 2 bucks off my father and almost fill tank
18:24:48 <Jeff> if i need to do a full fill up with premium its usually close to $60 if im on E
18:25:07 <LindaGp> wow
18:25:40 <Jeff> usually i fill up once a week from half a tank so its usually only about $30
18:26:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think I only fill mine about once a month. I really don't go anywhere.
18:27:34 <Jeff> round trip for me is about 10 miles a day
18:28:50 <JarnoO> the fuel in our family's car (no more than around €35) is probably worth more than the car itself :P
18:29:27 <LindaGp> 😊
18:29:31 <Jeff> i paid a few pretty pennies for my car
18:32:45 <LindaGp> OF
18:40:43 <LindaGp> Lc ie
18:40:44 <JarnoO> LC ie
18:46:42 <LindaGp> huh I missed daisy, but Joe didnt. thx
19:02:00 <LindaGp> hard tontell what all is happening down basin
19:03:14 <LindaGp> 1om wondering if arty is erupting.
19:03:26 <LindaGp> *I'm
19:15:53 <LindaGp> so much steam
19:28:02 <LindaGp> i think lion is done
19:29:28 <JarnoO> I'm thinking the same. Been roaring for a bit now, with no result
19:35:21 <ynpvisitor19> Big bear in the basin, over by cabins. Be on the lookout
19:37:59 <LindaGp> those are the cabins correct?
19:39:11 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Didn't see where you were pointed but they are just left of OF
19:39:29 <LindaGp> yes cabins by OF
19:43:04 <LindaGp> hate when it's this steamy
19:45:48 <LindaGp> riverside ie
19:48:33 <LindaGp> Lc IE
19:49:01 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Should we send Dave a text?
19:49:24 <JarnoO> :)
19:49:50 <LindaGp> lol yes
19:53:45 <LindaGp> where would a bear hide?
19:55:16 <Kevin L™ 🌵> ook for the nearest bison.
19:55:45 <LindaGp> they would attack a bison?
19:56:00 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes.
19:56:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> If you hadn't eaten since November you may too!
19:57:19 <LindaGp> 😊 oh that's right they are just coming out
20:08:50 <LindaGp> OF
20:16:02 <LindaGp> leaving it here. beehive to grand
20:16:25 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sounds good
20:17:01 <LindaGp> well maybe I'll put it on castle to lion
20:17:17 <LindaGp> grand and castle are due
20:17:50 <LindaGp> controls released