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02:26:05 <ynpvisitor91> Lion and Riverside
02:31:25 <ynpvisitor91> I am always glad when the tree falling in the forest doesn't go unobserved even if it is unheard.
02:32:24 <ynpvisitor91> BTB. Thanks Joe
05:40:10 <ynpvisitor75> OF
05:40:39 <ynpvisitor1> yay, fluffy
05:41:58 <ynpvisitor1> I still don't understand why the Lodge is lit at night, especially since no one is there and it is wasting electricity
05:42:55 <ynpvisitor1> it isn't just a few lights. It is 3 rows of lights
05:44:56 <ynpvisitor75> and trees
05:47:51 <Rice> Probably there is no switch, just off a breaker, and you need a qualified electrician to access the breaker panels ( That is my experience)
05:48:36 <ynpvisitor75> Does it look like oblong is erupting?
06:10:54 <JarnoO> morning all
06:12:41 <Ryan> Good morning, JarnoO.
06:12:42 <JarnoO> morning Ryan
06:12:47 <Joe> Hi Jarno, glad your here now I can play solitaire :)
06:13:15 <JarnoO> I advise you to stay on for a while. Need to work on my article for the listserve :0
06:13:18 <JarnoO> :)
06:13:59 <Joe> Drat :) foiled again :)
06:17:05 <CraigC> howdy
06:17:06 <JarnoO> morning Craig
06:17:10 <CraigC> hey Jarno
06:17:20 <CraigC> hey Joe, which solitaire app do you use
06:17:32 <CraigC> I hate the microsoft one
06:18:17 <Joe> Linux aisleriot solitaire
06:22:02 <Joe> Hi Craig, good view so far, "live long and prosper"
06:22:04 <CraigC> I wonder why Hoyle quit making PC games
06:22:48 <Joe> I do not know they have always had good ones
06:23:38 <Joe> I cannot do it without tapev also :)
06:29:39 <Joe> Craig for windows I use The Ultimate Hoyle Anniversary collection, works well on win10
06:29:57 <Joe> about $12
06:30:07 <CraigC> let me look
06:30:25 <CraigC> I am loading one called Spider Solitaire Collection
06:31:59 <CraigC> on Amzon for the Hoyle, the photo shows a price tag of 17.98, but the cost is 29
06:32:14 <CraigC>
06:34:39 <Joe> The Hoyle edition has 45 variations under solitaire, plus it has hundreds of other card games, then on the puzzle and board games there are many games
06:36:42 <Joe> 29$ wow I paid $12 on Amazon years ago and it works well with 'wine' on linux
06:38:12 <JarnoO> morning Dave
06:39:17 <Dave from B™> Morning Jarno, all fellow gazers
06:40:38 <CraigC> hey Dave
06:40:38 <Joe> Hi (H) Dave from B
06:41:29 <Dave from B™> Anything looking like Grand in that fog bank?
06:41:39 <JarnoO> not as of yet
06:41:47 <Joe> not yet
06:41:47 <CraigC> Joe, I put it in my Amazon cart and will watch for any price drops
06:42:59 <CraigC> what is that dark brown bison looking thing in the meadow, is it a mountain goat or an ermine or what
06:43:52 <CraigC> oh wow, it is an actual bison ;)
06:44:07 <CraigC> score
06:44:15 <JarnoO> Daisy
06:44:19 <Joe> Good, If I can figure how to, I'll put on my Captain Hook hat and get it for you.
06:45:37 <Joe> What Am I doing the cam is yours :)
06:45:52 <CraigC> ok, I'll take it
06:46:27 <Dave from B™> Oh, great. Now, we're going to have to zoom on every bison in view:D
06:46:32 <CraigC> my old man-that-forgets-the-days-of-the-week alarm just went off
06:46:33 <JarnoO> haha
06:46:51 <CraigC> Dave from B™, ;)
06:47:05 <Dave from B™> CraigC, it's Friday
06:47:15 <CraigC> oh good, logging out
06:47:24 <CraigC> cya tomorrow
06:47:42 <Dave from B™> Hasta la vista, baby
06:48:08 <CraigC> hey, a bison
06:48:52 <Dave from B™> haha...I feel it is going to be one of those days.
06:49:03 <Joe> Grand surprised me with a 5h 25 min interval last night
06:49:16 <Dave from B™> Joe, I saw that. That was a shortie
06:49:53 <CraigC> Joe, were controls really slow?
06:50:03 <Joe> yes
06:50:27 <CraigC> Joe, can you take them back for a few, i forgot I need to update drivers
06:51:04 <Joe> it is like driving an old Buick Hydromatic
06:51:18 <Joe> ok
06:51:26 <CraigC> thanks, bbias
06:51:30 <Dave from B™> That sounds like a food processor, Joe
06:51:48 <JarnoO> hydromatic? Why are you using water in a car?
06:52:38 <Joe> Yes, mash the pedal to the floor and 10 seconds later the car started moving
06:53:40 <Joe> That is what Buick called their auto trans in the 50's
06:56:11 <Joe> it may have been 'hydra' not sure
06:56:56 <JarnoO> if that is the case - no wonder it took so long. It needed to grow an additional head automatically without chopping off another one :)
06:58:19 <ynpvisitor17> A Hydra-Matic Drive transmission, produced between 1939 and 1956, on display at the Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum Hydramatic (also known as Hydra-Matic) is an automatic transmission developed by both General Motors' Cadillac and Oldsmobile divisions. Introduced in 1939 for the 1940 model year vehicles, the Hydramatic was the first mass-produced fully automatic transmission developed for pa
06:59:12 <ynpvisitor17> passenger automobile use.
06:59:20 <JarnoO> is that wikipedia?
06:59:33 <Joe> yes
07:02:13 <Joe> Grand will probably erupt during OF
07:02:53 <JarnoO> am thinking the same
07:03:26 <JarnoO> wb Craig
07:03:28 <CraigC> thanks, joe
07:03:43 <CraigC> thanks
07:03:44 <Joe> YW
07:03:44 <Joe> yw
07:03:58 <CraigC> took longer than I expected, had to update firmware in BIOS
07:04:11 <Joe> it is yours
07:06:49 <CraigC> of
07:07:00 <Joe> 10 min early
07:07:15 <ynpvisitor9> 15 degrees!
07:08:58 <Joe> In window but earlier than prediction
07:10:09 <Joe> .
07:10:53 <Joe> Grand maybe
07:11:09 <Joe> nope
07:11:21 <Joe> not missed yet :)
07:12:14 <JarnoO> could you pan back? Cloud began looking big
07:12:54 <JarnoO> must've been Turban then or some other geyser behind it
07:12:59 <CraigC> west triplet ?
07:13:11 <Joe> Grsand
07:13:13 <CraigC> grand
07:14:02 <CraigC> bulger
07:15:13 <CraigC> JarnoO, OF wasn't long?
07:16:13 <JarnoO> I'm getting its duration, don't worry
07:16:34 <JarnoO> updated it
07:17:30 <Joe>
07:18:39 <CraigC> Joe, LOL
07:19:18 <Ryan> W#ow, that is a *very* big Rift
07:19:33 <CraigC> ;)
07:19:40 <JarnoO> Are you sure it isn't East Triplet?
07:19:55 <CraigC> * "Rift ?"
07:19:56 <JarnoO> or North Triplet, while I'm at it :)
07:20:13 <Joe> the biggest ever :thumbsup:
07:21:01 <Dave from B™> Too soon, Ryan:)
07:21:18 <JarnoO> morning Cooper
07:21:30 <Cooper> Hi Jarno, and everyone
07:21:46 <CraigC> it's refreshing to see someone that can joke after taking some shit about an entry
07:22:00 <CraigC> oh, what timing, hey Cooper
07:22:06 <Dave from B™> Some?
07:22:22 <JarnoO> 2nd?
07:23:14 <Cooper> Hi Craig
07:23:50 <Cooper> So, if I bough the put last yoear on June 19th, do I need to renew it in order to get this years June/July, or do I renew it now?
07:23:50 <CraigC> Dave from B™, you'll never know how tempting it has been for me to pan off to a bison
07:24:00 <Ryan> "Some shit" lol
07:24:51 <Ryan> Glad I could make y'all smile with it.
07:25:00 <Dave from B™> haha CraigC...feel free. You should check to make sure they all have 4 legs
07:25:25 <CraigC> Ryan, humor is really needed now, at least for me
07:26:21 <Dave from B™> Yeah...I'm starting to see a little cranky around so it does feel good to laugh
07:26:24 <Ryan> I feel ya. I am in the same boat.
07:26:58 <Ryan> My days follow the same cycles: morning I am very tired, afternnons I wake up and then struggle to cope with it all, and then evenings I crash.
07:27:23 <ynpvisitor47> well at least you get to go to work, think positive
07:27:46 <Joe> Jarno, could not tell if a 2nd or not the camera was 'stuttering' for me
07:27:54 <Ryan> Admittedly, I am more inclined to jump at people, especially for things like yesterday when I should have just said "Whatever, post your proof that I am wrong, until then I am putting it up there."
07:27:58 <CraigC> "get to go put yourself in risk"
07:28:53 <Ryan> Mixed blessing, 47. Just now I was articulating this to someone. Being at work was great for about two weeks. Now its extremely stressful. Someone here already had COVID and a chunk of us were sent how to isolate.
07:29:25 <JarnoO> Joe, no problem. This is one of those Grands where I don't know it either. What I do know is that a big plume developed at the end of 0721, which looked typical of another burst
07:29:25 <Ryan> Meanwhile everything else runs as normal and at normal speed while most of us are trying to learn how to cope with the stress and new environment.
07:29:44 <ynpvisitor47> be careful :)
07:30:21 <Ryan> Work is not the place to learn new coping mechanisms. That should be done at home, but by the time I get home I am so wiped out I can't do anything. Last night I went to bed at 6pm and slept until 6am. I am slowly sliding into a depression for the same reason I ususally do: exhaustion.
07:30:47 <Ryan> I don't even have the emotional capacity right now to even contemplate my coworkers who go home to a wife and kids.
07:31:21 <JarnoO> that doesn't sound good
07:31:23 <Dave from B™> Ryan, I'll send you a bunch of sheep to count....what's your address?
07:31:28 <CraigC> Ryan, be careful to not get caught in the cycle..... yesterday I finally had a chance to get away and go biking and I didn't cuz I felt like crap.... bad choice
07:32:19 <Ryan> CraigC, unless the weather is shit or I have some very real reason not to get out I dont ignore it and go anyways.
07:32:34 <Dave from B™> the things you need to do to stay safe emotionally...for me it is to exercise
07:33:08 <Ryan> Cold today and snow tomorrow. Yesterday the house needed cleaned badly.
07:33:36 <Ryan> But two days ago I was taking photos of waterfalls in a literal lightning storm. My threshold for "shit weather" is obviously quite low.
07:34:23 <JarnoO> AL
07:34:27 <Ryan> It doesnt help that rain storms are the best possible weather conditions for waterfall photography and th is is the start of the best season for waterfalls both in flow and in forest conditions.
07:36:17 <JarnoO> LS ie?
07:36:22 <Dave from B™> Good for you for getting out, Ryan.
07:36:50 <JarnoO> oh, that's Silver
07:38:28 <Ryan>
07:38:56 <Ryan> Thats the stream I am currently working on and documenting. Some nice cave features, and 13 very nice waterfalls like that. A huge number of wild ramps too
07:39:05 <Ryan> With more to find.
07:39:15 <CraigC> nice looking
07:39:18 <JarnoO> beautful picture, Ryan
07:39:25 <JarnoO> beautiful*
07:39:43 <CraigC> old tardy
07:39:48 <Ryan> During the week, if I am going to do it, I go straight from work. Two days ago I got home in a dress shirt and jeans totally slimed with mud and dirt and soaking wet haha
07:39:58 <Ryan> But if I go home first it will not happen
07:41:18 <CraigC> mc
07:42:00 <Ryan> Did Depression just splash?
07:42:08 <JarnoO> Dep looks good
07:42:12 <Ryan> Depression is starting
07:42:19 <JarnoO> splash
07:42:31 <JarnoO> finally not a bubble crash
07:42:31 <Ryan> Dep 0742 start
07:42:40 <Ryan> Nice to see the flood!
07:43:26 <JarnoO> Ryan, it's your entry if you want to
07:43:26 <CraigC> good burst from marmot cave
07:43:41 <CraigC> wowow
07:43:52 <Ryan> Sure.
07:45:37 <Dave from B™> Ryan, are you sure that was Marmot Cave? I think it was Rift
07:46:50 <Ryan> I actually thought it was a steam phase eruption of Steamboat. But I figured that would be too controversial to suggest.
07:46:57 <JarnoO> haha
07:47:23 <Joe> Craig, You did not hit your 32" monitor with that?? :(
07:47:24 <Ryan> Speaking of which, I see the Echinus pulse happened yesterday. I think SB tomorrow.
07:47:59 <CraigC> look, Dave
07:48:17 <Joe> bbbbison :)
07:48:44 <Dave from B™> Are you sure? It could be a close relative
07:49:03 <Dave from B™> Ryan, how long has the Echinus pulse been occurring?
07:49:32 <Joe> I wanted to say 'cow' but it may have been a horse :)
07:49:50 <CraigC> not a gnu?
07:49:58 <JarnoO> I thought it were wisents
07:50:37 <Ryan> A while, Dave. Months? Maybe a year or more. Its been getting progressively more and more visible though.
07:52:09 <Dave from B™> Even I can see it now!
07:52:47 <ynpvisitor47> Or, people just started paying attention?
07:52:47 <Dave from B™> So, when Echinus consistent cycle ends will we be in a Big D?
07:53:34 <Ryan> I've noticed it, I just didnt correlate it.
07:53:41 <JarnoO> I hope this Echinus behavior culminates in one of those active phases it had between the 60s(?) and 2000s
07:53:58 <ynpvisitor47> a D could just kick start Echinus Dave from B™,
07:54:03 <Ryan> I think the Big Ds are their own monster.
07:54:23 <Joe> LA
07:54:38 <Ryan> This last Echinus pulse was very long lasting though. Usually its just up and then down, this was sustained.
07:54:45 <JarnoO> I don't see it, Joe
07:55:05 <CraigC> I missed it, was talking to my gf
07:55:39 <Ryan> I thought Echinus got zapped by disturbances?
07:55:44 <Joe> yep just improbable
07:56:40 <JarnoO> I recall Echinus has those super long eruptions, sometimes more than half an hour long
07:56:40 <ynpvisitor47> 2017 the D started Echinus again for a few months
07:57:26 <JarnoO> car
07:57:30 <Ryan> Cool, thanks 47.
07:57:32 <Joe> Ah! Darell
07:57:41 <Ryan> I dont understand Echinus as well as I could.
07:57:46 <Joe> Darrell
07:58:34 <Dave from B™> Ryan, thanks for mentioning. The last pulse is more "rounded" at the top compared to the one prior to others
07:58:47 <Joe> BSB :)
07:59:01 <JarnoO> the other one :D
07:59:09 <CraigC> Ryan, is that ragged or jagged
07:59:41 <Ryan> It is Rift.
07:59:43 <Ryan> Duh.
07:59:50 <CraigC> ;)
08:00:00 <Ryan> Oh wait.
08:00:16 <Ryan> Wrong view. That is obviously Handkerchief Pool.
08:00:26 <Joe> now LA
08:00:27 <JarnoO> AL ie
08:00:31 <Ryan> I'll make the "?" post...
08:00:37 <Ryan> ...;)
08:01:51 <JarnoO> Don't forget Riverside
08:02:16 <JarnoO> morning Mike, KevinS
08:02:24 <KevinS> SB on 4/10 at 13:00
08:02:31 <CraigC>
08:02:33 <Cooper> Hi Kevin
08:02:45 <KevinS> Good morning all
08:02:52 <Ryan> That's not Riverside, JarnoO, that is Fan's Angle Vent.
08:02:54 <Ryan> Specifically Angle.
08:02:56 <CraigC> hey Kevin
08:03:09 <Mike J> Morning JarnoO. Morning gazers around the world.
08:03:10 <JarnoO> ah, I see, Ryan. My bad
08:03:14 <KevinS> And Ryan, when looking at the echinus "heat up"s\
08:03:48 <KevinS> Heat up's... Notice that many of those correlate to the entire basin.
08:04:19 <JarnoO> AL still going. Probably on a solo adventure
08:04:51 <Cooper> how do you access Temperature data on GT?
08:05:24 <ynpvisitor47> only the ones that erupt are there Cooper
08:05:45 <ynpvisitor47> so you can see Constant for example butnot Porkchop
08:06:42 <JarnoO> Wasn't Bill in the process of making some tool from which we could download logger data?
08:06:56 <JarnoO> I wonder what the progress is on that
08:07:02 <Ryan> I do notice that, Kevin. I think its Echinus' lack of eruptions that make it's pulses so visible.
08:07:29 <Ryan> Constant's gets lost in noise and Porkchop's does too because of its normal day/night fluctuations.
08:07:42 <Ryan> Artemisia?
08:07:58 <JarnoO> was thinking the same
08:08:41 <KevinS> Constant and echinus often show a similar base line temp graph. When that pulse happens in both echinus and constant while SB is having strong minors, it usually is about two days for SB major. I found only two exceptions since December.
08:08:45 <Ryan> Why I am specifically zeroing in on Echinus because its cycles correlate very well to Steamboat, specifically that SB's eruptions correlate with a drop in Echinus temps.
08:09:26 <Ryan> Yes and I agree with you now that theres a relationship there. Were the two exceptions those two 14d intervals?
08:12:41 <KevinS> One pulse was at the onset of SB minors but SB went 5 days after pulse and before next cycle. The other exception was the recent suspected false start.
08:12:46 <JarnoO> LC
08:13:31 <Ryan> Hmm. Makes me more suspicious about the implications of those 14d intervals then.
08:13:53 <Ryan> The drop in Echinus temps around the SB eruption is very compelling.
08:14:21 <KevinS> If I could go there... It would be interesting to see if the pulse is the onset of increased cistern overflow.
08:14:26 <CraigC> not artemisia ?
08:14:28 <Ryan> It seems fairly obvious that if these cycles are relating to each other the way we think they are that there is a subtle exchange of function between SB and echinus.
08:14:29 <Joe> Riverside
08:14:48 <JarnoO> not quite, Joe
08:15:13 <Joe> Then it is in overflow :)
08:15:31 <KevinS> I would not go there Ryan. They just may have the same heat source and not share any funtion together.
08:15:35 <Ryan> Given the Echinus "pulses" happen consistently I'd say that those pulses are definitely Echinus using up energy.
08:15:48 <ynpvisitor47> but there have been times when both were active at the same time Ryan
08:16:29 <KevinS> enchinus pulse speed up to every day or so and slow down to up to 15 days that I have noticed.
08:16:42 <Ryan> The question then would be if the dips around SB majors are SB sucking energy from the system or Echinus "giving it away". Ie: which is the cause and which is the effect.
08:17:01 <Ryan> 47, SB majors during an Echnius pulse or SB majors during Echnius active phases?
08:17:41 <Ryan> I'd suppose SB is the cause and the dip in Echinus is the effect.
08:18:05 <ynpvisitor47> SB and Echinus at the same time, so not an exchange of function
08:18:20 <Ryan> Echinus pulses or eruptions?
08:18:49 <Rice> I have a hard time believing that SB eruptions do not effect any other geyser. It is too big, takes a lot of heat to boil all that water, something is suffering.
08:19:00 <Betty> morning geyser fellows
08:19:07 <KevinS> The echinus pulse correlates more to the temp graph for constant. Likely not connected by water, but by the heat source.
08:19:21 <JarnoO> afternoon Betty
08:19:22 <CraigC> hey Betty
08:19:43 <Betty> afternoon JarnoO, hi CraigC
08:20:22 <ynpvisitor47> I am talking about 60's adn 80's when Echinus and Steamboat were both active
08:20:47 <Ryan> 47, if you mean that SB majors have happened in the past while Echinus was actively having eruptions then I have to counter that given the complexity of the back basin I am not sure I'd expect the same relationship everytime.
08:21:19 <Betty> hi Ryan
08:21:36 <Ryan> Giantess/Geyser Hill, Grotto/Giant, Splendid/Daisy, and Fountain/Morning are examples where exchanges of function happen but are not consistent in style or end result.
08:22:07 <Ryan> Plus we didnt have the temp loggers back then. We could have still been having temp pulses even with Echinus eruptions.
08:22:19 <Betty> I love all that tiny steamy holes on the hill
08:22:25 <Ryan> Morning fello Oct-Niner
08:22:56 <Joe> BA
08:22:59 <Betty> :-)
08:23:06 <Betty> hey Joe
08:23:10 <CraigC> and AL
08:23:16 <Joe> Hi Betty
08:23:36 <JarnoO> I think Steamboat's direct sphere of influence is Cistern to Abandoned Cone Vent (pool north of SB), with its indirect sphere of influence going from Echinus (possibly as far as Porkchop even) to Emerald Spring (disturbance-related changes tend to happen here first) and potentially to Steamvalve (active in the early part of this active phase)
08:24:06 <Betty> Dome
08:24:18 <ynpvisitor47> OK, I'll buy that. But exchange of function is a strong term
08:24:42 <Ryan> I'd agree with that JarnoO. I think whatever apparent effects SB has on the Echinus cycles (or vice versa) are indications of effects on the system as a whole.
08:24:53 <ynpvisitor47> when Cistern doesn't drain we will come full circle :)
08:25:02 <Katie> Hi all
08:25:36 <Ryan> The relative closeness of Echinus and SB, as well as how obvious the correlations on the plots are is what makes me wonder if there is a more direct relationship between them, akin to Grotto/Giant.
08:25:58 <CraigC> Ryan, what about artemisia > no entry
08:26:24 <Ryan> There is not a direct exchange of function between Grotto and Giant but Grotto can create favorable conditions for Giant and Giant can have effects on Grotto.
08:26:28 <CraigC> riverside
08:26:34 <Ryan> CraigC, I thought I wasn't allowed to post to GT anymore?
08:26:38 <Ryan> (Kidding, I just forgot.)
08:27:09 <JarnoO> it's quite possible that the Steamboat system is not done evolving yet - that Cistern connection doesn't exist for alll that long (since the 60s or so as far as I know) and who knows what happens in the future between Echinus and the big ol' boat
08:27:32 <JarnoO> morning Katie
08:27:40 <Ryan> There is that, too, JarnoO.
08:27:58 <Betty> Morning Katie
08:28:08 <Ryan> SB itself did not apparently exist until around 1900. By and large its a very young geyser (though I suspect the plumbing system was there but buried)
08:28:37 <Ryan> I almost wonder if it had a very long dormancy (50-70 years) which allowed the vents to be filled, trees to grow, etc.
08:29:46 <LindaG> Good morning all, looks like a nice day out there.
08:29:55 <CraigC> hey Linda
08:30:02 <ynpvisitor47> but early maps have the "fissure" named
08:30:17 <Ryan> The earliest maps do not though.
08:30:46 <Ryan> I dont think it was noted at all until the very late 1800s to 1900.
08:30:46 <ynpvisitor47> yes Hague 1891 has"Fissure"
08:30:58 <Ryan> I am talking 1870s.
08:31:24 <Ryan> I dont have access to Scott's book right now but I think he notes the same.
08:31:30 <Dave from B™> I belive New Crater was first talked about by Norris in 1880's?
08:32:35 <ynpvisitor47> explorers didn't go there in the 1870's
08:32:47 <Ryan> I think the first thorough surveys of the area in the 1870s did not note anything there at all. Whether it was missed/overlooked is always an option. Regardless, big eruptions did not happen until much later - someone where I read descriptions of fully grown lodgepoles being uprooted and removed.
08:33:29 <Ryan> Norris wasn't explored until after the 1870s?
08:33:36 <Dave from B™> All early explorers stayed along the Mammoth/Tower/Canyon route
08:33:37 <LindaG> CraigC, hi
08:34:09 <Ryan> I am pretty sure Norris was explored before the 1880s
08:34:52 <Betty> Morning LindaG
08:35:05 <LindaG> Betty, hi
08:35:10 <Katie> Just took the wheel
08:35:20 <CraigC> Katie, cool, enjoy
08:35:44 <CraigC> Katie, see if you can catch daisy at the same time
08:36:08 <ynpvisitor47> correct but the Washburn survey didn't go there. Hague et all did later
08:36:12 <Betty> morning Jimbo
08:36:26 <Cooper> Hi Jimbo, Betty, Linda.
08:36:33 <LindaG> Cooper, hi
08:36:35 <JarnoO> morning Jimbo. You're not very bouyant today, are you :)
08:36:40 <JarnoO> buoyant*
08:36:45 <Betty> hi Cooper
08:36:57 <Ryan> I am doing my back research now for early Norris exploration. I am pretty sure it happened in the 1870s and the first surveys did not note Steamboat at all.
08:37:07 <Ryan> There is a lot of time between 1870 to 1879.
08:37:31 <Dave from B™> Ryan, if I was at home, I could tell you more. mid to late 1870s was probably first exploration of Norris
08:37:53 <Dave from B™> I know 1869, 1870 and 1871 Expeditions did not go there.
08:38:13 <Ryan> For some reason the dates 1876 and 1878 stick in my mind.
08:39:05 <Dave from B™> Norris was supt from 1877-1882
08:39:51 <ynpvisitor47> 1878 named
08:40:05 <Ryan> I think this was before "Norris" was named.
08:40:38 <Ryan> If it was named in 1878 then how was it not explored until the 1880s?
08:40:57 <Dave from B™> I hate misinformation out there. Check out this article saying Steamboat isn't on this map. (New Crater is)
08:41:08 <Dave from B™>
08:42:28 <Cooper> shh Dave, Mary Greely might be here :p
08:42:54 <Betty> OF
08:42:57 <Dave from B™> Ryan, I rounded up:)
08:43:08 <Ryan> Interesting, Dave. There is a feature there labelled "Fissure" in the vicinity of Steamboat.
08:43:34 <Ryan> 47, are you sure "fissure" in the early maps referred to SB?"
08:44:57 <ynpvisitor47> yes, according to Nomenclature Hague named it that in 1887
08:45:24 <Dave from B™> So, why is fissure and New Crater on this 1912 map?
08:46:12 <Ryan> That is what I am curious about. IT would not be the first feature misnamed and then mixed up back then (gahd, look at Riverside's history...)
08:46:30 <Betty> I like "Schlammkessel", Sounds familiar :-)
08:46:41 <Ryan> Even Nomenclature notes having a hard time figuring that mess out.
08:48:16 <Dave from B™> It is easy for names to move around features
08:48:28 <Dave from B™> We see it in almost every basin
08:49:13 <Dave from B™> Betty, what does Sch....sel mean?
08:51:34 <Betty> hahaha. It´s mudpot
08:52:13 <Betty> Schlammkessel is a german word
08:52:14 <Dave from B™> Typical German word......way more letters than necessary:)
08:52:42 <Betty> I´d call it a Dreckloch
08:54:54 <Cooper> Aurum on static
08:55:10 <Betty> looks like, yes
08:55:57 <Betty> Looks like Doublet erupting
08:55:58 <Cooper> Post Eruptive.
08:56:31 <Katie> It's so clear and calm...
08:56:37 <JarnoO> AB
08:56:44 <Betty>
08:56:55 <Betty> nice catch, Cooper
08:56:56 <Ryan> Heh, post an entry with Doublet erupting and see how THAT goes...
08:57:08 <Betty> lol!
08:57:18 <Cooper> Betty, thx
08:57:44 <Betty> I posted a Lion Major once...don´t ask about that!
08:58:02 <Ryan> Oh I was here for that.
08:58:17 <JarnoO> How's Daisy looking?
08:58:19 <Ryan> Giantess's runoff has been looking steamy the last few days
08:58:24 <Betty> hey, that was YOU ;-)
08:58:28 <Katie> Daisy looked post eruptive
08:58:50 <Katie> I went to it after OF
08:58:53 <Ryan> Katie can we get a closeup of Giantess' runoff? Wanna see what colors are ther.
08:59:03 <JarnoO> unfortunate. Thanks Katie
08:59:07 <Katie> sure. It's great conditions for it now.
08:59:45 <Ryan> Darn, dark and sad looking.
08:59:47 <Betty> ahhh, love that
08:59:52 <Ryan> I was hoping for bleached and hot.
09:00:28 <Ryan> The runoff just has seemed hotter the last couple days with more steam than I am used to seeing, especially with the warmer weather.
09:00:39 <Ryan> Thanks for the look
09:01:32 <JarnoO> the trees are literally growing by the minute when I look out the window. They're just now beginning to get a green tint to them, while literally hours ago I could still see branches
09:02:43 <JarnoO> morning kc
09:02:46 <Cooper> hi KC
09:02:52 <Betty> morning kc (working)
09:02:59 <Cooper> Jarno, did you finish your article?
09:03:05 <kc (working)> mornin mornin
09:03:22 <JarnoO> no, still busy. 8.8 kB so far
09:04:43 <LindaG> Right side giantess looks real steamy
09:04:58 <Betty> that was a good boil
09:06:17 <Ryan> Doublet looks very warm, too.
09:06:38 <Ryan> Wouldn't that be nice? Giantess to give us a happy distraction.
09:06:42 <Ryan> Great weather for it too
09:06:59 <Betty> yeah
09:07:27 <Katie> I've never even seen Giantess, so YEAH that would be awesome
09:07:48 <Ryan> I've seen three from the webcam (one start).
09:07:49 <LindaG> Katie, me too, it would me great
09:07:59 <Ryan> one heck of an attempted start in person but thats it
09:08:11 <Ryan> Can we even see the pool right now in the steam?
09:08:15 <Katie> Daisy
09:08:17 <JarnoO> Daisy ie
09:08:33 <Katie> WELL, I guess it WASN'T post eruptive
09:08:35 <JarnoO> it's deceiving
09:08:44 <Betty> :-D
09:10:07 <JarnoO> that's a very accurate prediction /gts is giving us. I like it
09:12:01 <Katie> LC IE
09:12:03 <JarnoO> LC ie
09:17:30 <Katie> These clear days make me want to look closer at everything
09:20:31 <Betty> Morning Kevin L™ 🌵
09:20:57 <Betty> good plan, Katie
09:22:11 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi
09:22:26 <Katie> Hi Kevin
09:25:20 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, hi
09:25:49 <LindaG> Home, home on the range...
09:26:29 <Betty> Grass must grow good this year, with all the bison scat
09:26:53 <LindaG> 😊
09:39:53 <Ryan> It is my general understanding that Giantess does not like wind.
09:40:31 <Ryan> That was according to Rocco and Clark who said that when its only half way interested in trying to erupt that Giantess' pool can be cooled by wind enough to not erupt.
09:40:37 <Dave from B™> Woohoo, my PPP Loan has been approved in less than 16 hours!
09:40:57 <Dave from B™> Ryan, I have heard that before
09:41:16 <JarnoO> Giantess needs some wind shields
09:41:20 <Betty> sure, you are older than Ryan
09:41:51 <Ryan> Giantess needs a good siphoning hose.
09:42:05 <Ryan> I dont volunteer to suck it out though.
09:42:17 <Dave from B™> Giantess needs more heat
09:42:22 <JarnoO> it needs (Storí) Geysir treatment
09:42:45 <Ryan> I think it does need the heat, Dave.
09:42:50 <Betty> It needs just to erupt
09:43:03 <Dave from B™> Maybe, we should put a cover on top of it:D
09:43:04 <Ryan> Betty, that's a good summary.
09:43:29 <ynpvisitor92> guess it's been too windy for the last 6 years
09:43:39 <Betty> we need to build some pressure on it
09:44:10 <ynpvisitor92> maybe it's feeling too much pressure and can't perform
09:44:14 <Ryan> There are some geysers who are water heavy. Ironically, cooling the top off can induce an eruption because it traps heat below the surface. When the water is able to mix again the influx of hot water causes temprarily heavier boiling which can induce it.
09:44:23 <Betty> :-(
09:44:44 <Cooper> well, we just need to stuck a hose all the way down(as far as it will go) and blow air into it.
09:44:47 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Big fans blowing to other way as the wind?
09:45:05 <JarnoO> and then you have Splendid. That little fella needs big pressure drops
09:45:19 <Ryan> Giantess, Beehive, Aurum, and possibly North Goggles come to mid as geysers which could probably be induced that way.
09:45:51 <Ryan> Splendid is... nevermind.
09:46:00 <Cooper> Jarno, lets just wait for a bombogenesis over YNP for Splendid
09:46:21 <Ryan> Chinaman Sprring could also very likely be induced that way as well.
09:46:24 <Cooper> Splendid has been mroe like a splendidn't
09:46:35 <JarnoO> How about a Braer Storm moving into Yellowstone?
09:46:55 <Ryan> Nice blocks of dry ice would probably be the best in terms of cooling power versus weight and volume.
09:47:44 <Ryan> The classic model of a geyser has a constriction which reduces (or removes) circulation in the plumbing system so hot water can not come up from below and cool and then sink back down?
09:48:01 <JarnoO> Ryan, correct
09:48:02 <Katie> uh oh
09:48:12 <Ryan> The cold water cap you create does the same thing, it effectively stops the circulation allowing hot water to get hotter.
09:48:15 <Katie> lost controls that time
09:48:35 <Dave from B™> Ryan, have you built a geyser before?
09:48:48 <Ryan> Been a while, but yes.
09:48:57 <Betty> cool
09:48:58 <Ryan> The sputs had a big model palooza in 2015.
09:49:21 <Dave from B™> I always enjoy goping into VEC to watch their model
09:49:24 <Dave from B™> going*
09:49:24 <JarnoO> I'd like to once build a geyser model according to what researchers found below Old Faithful
09:49:45 <Cooper> OK, I could experiment, if I were to just put 50 dollars too materials, and rent/beg for NOAA's full variable(but Gravity) control room.
09:50:10 <JarnoO> instead of the classic, straight pipe down to a big chamber, a somewhat offset chamber connected near-vertically to another chamber with on top of that a vent
09:50:45 <JarnoO> lots of doggies downbasin
09:50:48 <JarnoO> OT?
09:50:57 <Ryan> Hahah. We had this setup we called Humming and Bird Geysers. Combined model systems with independent heating sources. We did it at Micah's house. We would watch both geysers erupt but never at the same time. Then after having the system run for a few hours we were all eating dinner when they both began erupting outside and every Sput jumped up from the dinner table (and Rocco) while shouting a
09:51:27 <Ryan> *Demetri with a mouth full of salad* "BIRD! HUMMING! HUMMINGBIIRRDD!"
09:51:54 <Dave from B™> That's funny
09:52:00 <LindaG> Ryan, at your house?
09:52:09 <Ryan> You'dve thought it was a trifecta.
09:52:12 <Ryan> Nah it was at Micah's
09:52:29 <Dave from B™> I've never built a model geyser but it seems to be a great way to experiment with changes in heat, water and constriction
09:52:31 <LindaG> Ah missed the lead up story
09:52:34 <Cooper> Bee on static. That is what I said.
09:52:35 <Cooper> NON
09:52:38 <Cooper> OOP
09:52:39 <Cooper> s
09:52:41 <Cooper> no bee now
09:52:52 <Cooper> NO BEE NOW....
09:53:00 <Dave from B™> Did the bee fly away?
09:53:10 <JarnoO> do you need some sleep, Cooper?
09:53:12 <Ryan> Dome, static
09:53:17 <JarnoO> Dome ini
09:53:23 <Ryan> Nice initial!
09:53:29 <Cooper> That is what I was gonna Say.
09:53:34 <Ryan> Get that water, Katie!!
09:53:38 <LindaG> JarnoO, No just a new keyboard
09:53:44 <Cooper> WOW. Maybe i need more sleep
09:53:44 <CraigC> wow
09:53:47 <LindaG> Dome
09:53:56 <Cooper> Nice Dome!
09:54:04 <Eric> Morning all
09:54:07 <Betty> pretty
09:54:09 <JarnoO> Graham will be happy today
09:54:09 <CraigC> hey Eric
09:54:11 <LindaG> Wow
09:54:12 <Eric> Nice! Dome ini?
09:54:12 <Betty> hi Eric
09:54:12 <JarnoO> morning Eric
09:54:15 <Cooper> Hi Eric
09:54:15 <Dave from B™> I love Dome...wish you could get closer on the bw
09:54:19 <Ryan> Nice water!
09:54:21 <LindaG> Eric, hi
09:54:29 <Eric> That looks like an ini
09:54:39 <Ryan> This is worth a cpature and a download...
09:54:51 <JarnoO> nice cascades
09:54:52 <CraigC> this is one of the best Domes I have seen
09:54:56 <Ryan> Start was 0953 for those interested
09:54:56 <Eric> Hi Craig, Betty, Jarno, Cooper & Linda :-D
09:54:58 <Ryan> per static
09:55:06 <Dave from B™> Great job, camop
09:55:12 <Dave from B™> wow
09:55:29 <kc (working)> nice
09:55:35 <Katie> Just great viewing conditions today
09:55:38 <Eric> Best dome I have ever seen on the cam
09:55:48 <Ryan> Wondeful coniditons
09:56:04 <Betty> Great show
09:56:23 <Ryan> Nice long durations too
09:56:25 <LindaG> Cant mistake that
09:56:47 <Betty> ini´s last several minutes per Graham
09:57:07 <Ryan> JarnoO I think that 0953 was the start
09:57:23 <Cooper> 952**
09:57:31 <Cooper> I mean to say Dome instead of Bee
09:57:32 <Ryan> thanks
09:57:36 <JarnoO> I'm not quite sure on that, Ryan. You can overwrite mine if you want to, though
09:57:39 <Ryan> oh haha
09:57:41 <Cooper> I could see the steam behind the trees.
09:57:48 <Ryan> Cooper can get it
09:58:00 <Eric> Thanks for the show camop!
09:58:01 <Cooper> I will take it
09:58:05 <Katie> tried manual focus to see if it would clear up - no such luck
09:58:07 <Eric> Great way to start my day!
09:58:23 <Cooper> I should start enering everything into GT again.
09:58:25 <JarnoO> should we notify Graham that Dome has started a series?
09:58:43 <Eric> I think he will figure it out :-P
09:58:47 <JarnoO> :)
09:58:58 <JarnoO> Time for dinner. Enjoy Dome and friends
09:58:58 <Ryan> OHH CAN I SEND A TEXT!?!?!?11!?
09:59:14 <Cooper> Yes Ryan
09:59:17 <Dave from B™> Ryan, make sure you put a ? on it
09:59:26 <Eric> Well, cooper said yes, so go for it!
09:59:27 <Cooper> I entered it.
09:59:40 <Cooper> BUt it looks Done Ryan.
09:59:49 <Ryan> capture saved
10:00:03 <Cooper> Do not listen to me, I never said anything. I am not to blame.
10:00:05 <Ryan> "Dome initial 0952 A?"
10:00:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Isn't that like putting up a DIP sign after the dip?
10:00:14 <Ryan> That would be a hell of a text to get
10:00:22 <Dave from B™> Is Friday Opening Day at YNP?:(
10:00:42 <Ryan> Thats even a better text: "Dome just stopped erupting."
10:00:43 <Katie> Ready, Kevin?
10:00:49 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I guess it is my turn to drive now.
10:01:00 <Katie> released
10:01:13 <Eric> Maybe start adding pump majors to your txt too.
10:01:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Got it.
10:01:34 <Katie> that was a fun way to end my shift. :)
10:02:03 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Dome initial is always a fun catch.
10:02:06 <LindaG> On getvideo 09:53:06 for dome
10:02:37 <Eric> Thanks Linda
10:04:39 <Betty> 0952 on VEC static
10:04:56 <Betty> morning Jeff
10:05:03 <Jeff> afternoon betty
10:05:40 <Cooper> Hi Jeff
10:06:07 <Jeff> hey cooper
10:06:44 <Cooper> hmm... I am gonna need a new show. Starting to run out of erpisodes of Greys Anatomy that I have not seen.
10:07:10 <Betty> Dome
10:07:15 <Jeff> i never got into greys anatomy
10:07:37 <Cooper> It took me 3 seasons to get into it
10:07:44 <Betty> LC
10:08:00 <LindaG> Dome ini
10:08:07 <Jeff> theres a lot of shows that people love that i tried watching and couldnt get more than a couple episodes into
10:08:26 <Cooper> thx for video.
10:08:55 <Cooper> I especially like the gore, and the action that you get every episode.
10:09:06 <Cooper> Might not be the most realistic, but well, it is entertaining.
10:09:17 <ynpvisitor68> From contact in Emigrant. Cam Sholly on park opening.
10:09:24 <ynpvisitor68>
10:10:42 <Cooper> OF
10:10:49 <LindaG> Oh and I thought do e was done
10:11:01 <LindaG> *dome
10:11:15 <ynpvisitor68> Fluff & Dome water
10:11:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That one was early
10:12:54 <Eric> Thanks for the article 68. Sholly seems very level headed.
10:13:12 <Dave from B™> Thanks 68
10:13:31 <Dave from B™> This quote sums up the near future
10:13:34 <Dave from B™> I don’t know where the tipping point is, where the fear of the virus is overtaken by the economic consequences of this
10:14:26 <Kent> Looks to be glorious day in the UGB. Sun and little wind
10:14:44 <Dave from B™> Hi, Kent
10:15:22 <Kent> Hey Dave.
10:15:49 <Dave from B™> Sorry, you won't be at YNP for Opening Weekend
10:16:31 <ynpvisitor57> Lots of people will be at the park opening weekend.
10:16:32 <Kent> Me too. I wish park would let in a couple of geyser people and wolfies so we could get reports
10:17:52 <Eric> Yep, I seriously doubt my memorial day reservation will hold.
10:18:15 <Eric> solitary
10:18:18 <Eric> Morning Jake
10:18:24 <Katie> solitary
10:18:36 <Eric> AB
10:18:39 <Jake> SLC is talking extending our version of "lockdown" through May
10:18:45 <ChrisO> doggie :)
10:19:02 <Eric> Morning Chris
10:19:20 <LindaG> Found out delta is giving 2 yrs to rebook cancelled flights instead of one
10:19:35 <Eric> Thats nice
10:20:00 <ChrisO> our "lockdown" is until June 10th
10:20:02 <LindaG> It is, in my case I would have had to rebook this year.
10:20:13 <Eric> I was able to cancel a non-refundable hotel from hilton a couple weeks ago. That was really nice as I figured I was just out the money.
10:20:39 <LindaG> That was nice too
10:21:15 <Jake> just read the article. Opening the park based on virus levels in the gateway counties seems odd. If they're low, you don't want people coming from all over the country and bringing the virus. If they're high, other states don't want their people going.
10:21:30 <LindaG> I just dont see flying g this year
10:22:02 <Dave from B™> Jake, I was thinking the same thing after he said you couldn't limit who comes in based on where they are from
10:23:25 <ChrisO> a few lazy bums in the group lol, the rest are standing and eating :)
10:23:28 <Jake> math problem: How many people could see a Beehive eruption while remaining socially distanced? How does this compare to non-socially distanced crowd? Reflect on the deep meaning of your answer.
10:24:03 <Cooper> so, when is the park opening to counties where Virus rates are low.?
10:24:16 <Kent> Buffs looking a little thin
10:24:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> All of them Jake.
10:24:57 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, LOL, for the win
10:24:59 <Dave from B™> Jake, it depends on how far people want to be from BH and still watch it
10:25:11 <Jake> haha that's like those internet things of all the clever/dumb answers kids give on tests
10:25:52 <Kevin L™ 🌵> And I do remember the Hydra-Matic transmission too!
10:25:52 <Jake> can't pass people on the boardwalk and remain socially distanced. all boardwalks will need to be one-way
10:26:59 <ChrisO> when does mating season start?
10:27:07 <Eric> I think Sholly was keeping it fairly vague as he has to appease a lot of different entities.
10:27:16 <Katie> Which mating season?
10:27:17 <Jake> how many socially distanced people can fit in the Giant cage?
10:27:24 <ChrisO> bison
10:27:24 <Kent> Late July early August
10:27:32 <Eric> I pretty much read non-committal and we will listen to the experts.
10:27:44 <ChrisO> thank you Kent
10:28:10 <Eric> So how long is the bison gestation?
10:28:23 <Jeff> thats basically what i got from it too eric was they didnt want to commit to anything until they get more information from experts
10:29:17 <LindaG> Eric, 283 days
10:29:20 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I know it seems too change hourly here.
10:29:32 <LindaG> I just googled it 😃
10:29:51 <Eric> So similar to humans.
10:30:05 <Jake> A platform is 34' x 10'. How many people can be on the platform at the same time if all are required to remain at least 6' from all other people?
10:30:08 <Eric> So they can start calving in April
10:30:38 <Eric> I will go with 68 jake
10:30:52 <Cooper> 34 ft?????
10:31:05 <Cooper> you have to keep it forward and backwards, not just across
10:31:07 <LindaG> Eric, that would be exciting to catch on cam
10:31:14 <Cooper> what I did was...
10:31:41 <Eric> ohh, woops :-P
10:31:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> But if boardwalks are one way could you get out if you got in?
10:31:48 <Eric> 10 people
10:31:53 <Cooper> ok, so you have 6ft on each side, which is 6^2m which is 36 square feet, so you can find total square feet of the plaform(340) and divide by 36
10:32:09 <Cooper> so 9.4 repeating
10:32:25 <Cooper> so 9 people, and a baby :p
10:32:51 <Eric> no, 10 easily. just line up 5 on each edge and you have 10
10:33:04 <Jake> Cooper, but the 6' around each person is a radius (circle) not a square
10:33:14 <Eric> You can't just use the area each person takes up, as their areas can overlap
10:33:17 <Cooper> Oh, oops...
10:33:32 <Eric> and you can extend their areas off the platform
10:33:33 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Do you have to add in the size of a person?
10:33:47 <Eric> Yes Kevin
10:34:13 <Jake> in reality yes, for this problem, no
10:34:23 <Jake> also, assume there is no air resistance
10:34:23 <Dave from B™> The cage will probably be closed
10:34:23 <Cooper> so PiR squared = Pi(6)^2= 113 square feet, which does not make sense. For the calculation, toehrwise you could only fit 4 people kindoff, but....
10:35:24 <Jake> r = 3, d = 6. pi*3^2 = 27ish
10:35:25 <Eric> just line up 5 people on each edge and you fit 10 with 10 x 6 space around each.
10:35:58 <Cooper> 15 people.
10:36:03 <Eric> You can't use an area formula
10:36:14 <Cooper> you c9uld also fit people inbetween. So more like 17
10:36:21 <Joe> to be safe 1 person in the park at a time, when they leave let the next one in...:)
10:36:38 <LindaG> 😊
10:36:40 <Cooper> I can dibs on first
10:36:43 <Cooper> just never leave :P
10:36:44 <Eric> As long as that person is me...sounds good :-D
10:37:01 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Escorted Joe
10:37:03 <Joe> ditto
10:37:03 <ChrisO> hey..some of us havent had a chance to go yet lol
10:37:07 <Cooper> Eric, you get second.
10:37:10 <LindaG> LindaG, Joe created dome video and attached to coopers entry, just so you know
10:37:25 <Eric> Thanks Joe!
10:37:25 <Jeff> just put one gazer at all major geysers lol that way we can keep an eye on most geysers lol
10:37:25 <Cooper> ok, Jarno first, the king(eric second), and me third :)
10:37:30 <Cooper> Thx Jeff.
10:37:39 <LindaG> Hmm that was for Joe not me
10:37:42 <Cooper> I call SB, or Bee.
10:37:52 <Jake> for the one-way in/out Giant platform, you can't leave until the person closest to the exit leaves so you'll be there all day
10:38:00 <Joe> I did??
10:38:02 <Jeff> i call grand
10:38:06 <Jake> also, the floor is LAVA
10:38:16 <Cooper> actually, I call Lion
10:38:19 <LindaG> Joe, no I did
10:38:28 <Eric> You just need pillows then...they save you from lava!
10:38:32 <Cooper> no, no. Anemone :p I jsut cant pick!
10:38:43 <Cooper> Dome
10:38:47 <LindaG> Dome ie
10:38:54 <Eric> So what is the interval after dome ini?
10:39:14 <Joe> Ah! I thought I was loosing it for a moment :)
10:39:19 <Betty> first was 14 min
10:39:29 <LindaG> Joe, no it's me, as usual
10:39:36 <Jeff> actually idk if id want castle or grand
10:39:45 <Joe> :)
10:39:53 <Eric> so they start pretty short then extend out to almost an hour?
10:40:03 <Cooper> How aboit, I call Castle.
10:40:13 <Cooper> and then I can watch basicaly every geyser in the basin :)
10:40:16 <Betty> yep
10:40:40 <Cooper> Bee, Castle, OF, Giant, Dome, Lion, Daisy, Riverside Steam, and everything.
10:40:52 <Cooper> but not F&M.
10:41:13 <Jeff> how about i call on top of the inn to watch everything lol
10:42:16 <Cooper> how about, I just create a hovercart, and move around 6 feet above the people heads, and then I can go everywhere.
10:42:32 <ChrisO> telephoto lens from the top of the resurgent dome?
10:42:54 <Jeff> good luck with creating that cooper and let me know how that works out so i can buy it lol
10:43:03 <Cooper> haha. I will never.
10:43:22 <Jeff> i can pay handsomly with food from lower hams lol
10:44:02 <Cooper> I like their cold sandwiches.
10:44:21 <Cooper> and icecream :p
10:44:25 <Jeff> like the ones from the reach in cooler?
10:44:44 <Cooper> the one that I always imagine there is going to be a dead body in/behind?
10:45:10 <Cooper> I like the ones from the fridge like thing too.
10:52:31 <LindaG> Oh thinking about huckleberry ice cream sandwiches again
10:53:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That sounds good.
10:54:15 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Arctic Circle restaurants (mostly Utah and Idaho) have Huckleberry shakes that are great.
10:55:19 <Dave from B™> Stop making me drool!
10:56:20 <Kevin L™ 🌵> If you have Maverick stores they have an exclusive on Brownie M&Ms that are awesome.
10:56:22 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, oh yum
10:56:52 <CraigC> Maverick used tohave good frozen yogurt
10:57:36 <Eric> I was wrong earlier...14 people should fit on Jakes platform :-D
10:57:40 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I like them when I travel. Sort of like a truck stop for cars.
10:57:53 <Eric> forgot you could fit people in between on the angles
10:58:47 <ynpvisitor98> Don't know about Idaho, but Montana has Stay In Place law right now, you go into that state you may be fined or put in quarantine for 14 days in Montana
10:59:05 <ynpvisitor98> that would be pretty expensive ice cream
11:00:18 <ynpvisitor98> bison look content today
11:00:26 <Eric> Will be interesting to see if we can get more science on re-infection and mutations. If people become resistant to the virus after being infected, this will get a lot easier as time goes on.
11:01:33 <LindaG> I read somothing this morning that they think there are two strains s of covid
11:01:54 <LindaG> One much more deadly than the other
11:03:07 <Eric> I had to read that Linda, I know there are multiple mutations out there, but not enough variance to change much. I would be interested in reading what you have read.
11:03:30 <Eric> to = not
11:03:35 <LindaG> I'll see if I can find
11:04:44 <Kent> I have read what you have Eric, 2 strains but similar receptor sites.
11:05:28 <Eric> Exactly Kent
11:05:47 <LindaG> Eric,
11:05:55 <Eric> But last time I looked was a week or two ago
11:06:51 <LindaG> Forget that it's from march
11:07:01 <Eric> Yep, that is the same info Linda, I don't think one is more "deadly" though
11:10:28 <Dave from B™> It is too bad we can start up local economies when rates subside and prevent mixing of regions a bit...that would probably be an impossible task
11:10:35 <Dave from B™> can't*
11:12:53 <Ryan> Coronaviruses mutate pretty slowly
11:14:15 <Eric> That seems to be the word so far...but we know so little and when you have millions of people infected, it could change it's mutations.
11:14:39 <Ryan> Its still a coronavirus though, and the family is pretty well understood.
11:15:47 <Ryan> Its infection style, etc in humans, is novel. But their overall characteristics of reproduction, mutating, etc share similar qualities to the rest of the coronaviruses.
11:15:52 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I would assume that this one is a mutant from another one.
11:16:11 <LindaG> It helps to hit play on video 😋
11:16:41 <Ryan> I read somewhere that the genetic difference between a virus in China from the start and one of the US viruses was like 6/100 differences which for a virus is extremely low.
11:17:00 <Ryan> It was the same article that said that we'd probably only need one vaccine for it. Washington Post IIRC
11:18:11 <ynpvisitor57> This has no date.
11:19:02 <ynpvisitor57> All the 2 version stories with one being deadlier are from March, so outdated and probably wrong.
11:19:32 <Joe> isy
11:19:43 <Joe> Da
11:20:08 <Eric> Yep, it's an RNA virus and it could change, especially with so many people getting infected. I hope it does stay as a slow mutation :-(
11:20:20 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Driving that Hyder-Matic again Joe?
11:20:31 <Joe> yep
11:21:00 <Eric> This is probably one of the best sites if you want to dig into the mutations and strains of Covid-19 -
11:21:33 <Eric> Not an easy read, but they are doing hard core analysis of the sequences.
11:21:42 <Eric> From around the globe
11:22:51 <Joe> /
11:27:27 <LindaG> Dome ie
11:28:36 <LindaG> Betty is on top of it 😊
11:28:49 <Dave from B™> United is starting cargo flights only to China today
11:28:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I don't see her.
11:29:10 <Dave from B™> She might be on the other side
11:29:33 <Joe> She is off trail :i::i:
11:29:36 <ynpvisitor57> She the one with the big beer?
11:29:42 <Betty> I sit behind Dome in Craigs chair
11:29:51 <LindaG> 😋
11:30:13 <ynpvisitor57> we almost missed lc
11:30:16 <LindaG> LC ie
11:30:18 <Dave from B™> hahaha. Wait until Craig finds out
11:31:03 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Was she more than 6 feet from it?
11:31:47 <CraigC> hey, who has my chair
11:32:05 <LindaG> Betty
11:32:12 <Betty> dubidubidubidooooo
11:32:43 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Nice view
11:32:57 <Dave from B™> hahahahaha
11:33:07 <Joe> Craig will chase Betty down on his e-bike, kinda like wile coyote and the road runner beep beep
11:33:18 <CraigC> psssst, Craig's dog eats poop
11:33:20 <Betty> beep beep
11:33:31 <Betty> UGHHHH
11:33:45 <Dave from B™> Your's isn't the only one
11:33:53 <Betty> I have a fade taste in my mouth
11:34:22 <Kevin L™ 🌵>
11:34:50 <Betty> OF
11:40:28 <ynpvisitor96> Craig chasing Betty
11:40:39 <ynpvisitor57> Time to go bathe in UV.
11:41:07 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sounds good to me 57
11:43:57 <Betty> lol, 96
11:44:17 <CraigC> poor Wiley
11:45:44 <Eric> dome?
11:47:58 <Cooper> fun...
11:48:06 <Cooper> just gave myself a minor concussion..
11:48:10 <Cooper> was letting the dogs in...
11:48:20 <Cooper> and slammed my head in the door...
11:48:30 <CraigC> ooops
11:48:34 <Cooper> then fell straight backwards adn hit my head on the tile.wood floor.
11:48:55 <Cooper> dont worry, I was laughing until I opened my eyes...
11:49:15 <Cooper> my brother said my pupils were different sizes, and then returned to normal at not the same pace.
11:49:47 <Cooper> of all the things that could give me a concussion, it had to be my own stupidity :p
11:51:17 <LindaG> Cooper, make sure you mention to your parents
11:51:41 <Cooper> I did, both know about it
11:51:52 <LindaG> Cooper, 👍
11:51:55 <Cooper> But I am NOT going to the ER, I am just gonna take it easy for a few days.
11:52:03 <Eric> Cooper is use to hitting his head
11:52:30 <Cooper> I dimmed my brightness down all the way, am letting only natural light(besides computer light int omy room), and am not moving my head
11:52:36 <Cooper> Eric, yearly occurance :P
11:52:47 <LindaG> Normally I would say doctor, but....covid
11:53:31 <CraigC> *Normally I would say doctor, but....Cooper
11:53:33 <Cooper> I have not gone to the doctor for a minor concussion for years :) They say to much, and tell me I have a concusion, and do what I always do if I even bang my head
11:54:51 <Ryan> Thats what Natasha Richardson thought.
11:55:18 <Betty> yeah, so sad
11:55:24 <LindaG> Ryan, yeah. Watch out for headaches
11:55:41 <Betty> banging the head is not good
11:55:51 <Ryan> If you begin having a headache, Cooper, --> ER
11:56:26 <LindaG> With a mask. Ha!
11:58:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Will this work?
11:58:57 <Ryan> My number one reason for wearing a helmet undeground is because an EH would probably kill me before I get out
11:59:25 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, haha
11:59:49 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, lol
12:00:44 <Cooper> Ryan, we have hydrocodone, and Ibeu, we are all set :)
12:00:45 <Betty> do you see your chair, Craig?
12:01:07 <Cooper> but if it gets bad, we will go to the ER
12:01:27 <Ryan> My worst head injury ever happened while surveying in a cave and I had my helmet off (metal in the helmet messes with compass readings) and I was sketching. I was sitting in one spot and turned my head to look at something and *crack* right in the forehead. Instantly saw stars.
12:01:42 <Ryan> Cooper do you know who Natasha Richardson is and what she died from?
12:02:04 <Ryan> (impressively strong Dome for not being an initial)
12:02:05 <Cooper> yes, yes. But I am not going to be stupid, and not go to the ER if I need too...
12:02:30 <Ryan> Then ibuprofin and hydrocodone wont do you jack shit :P
12:02:40 <Cooper> if it gets bad, I will get my parents to call 911, send me a non emergency ambulance.
12:02:43 <LindaG> Wow NY, NJ about to get pummeled with storms
12:03:07 <Ryan> Meeting time.
12:03:07 <Cooper> Well, hydrocodone would be very good if I need to wait a 1/2 hour for ambulance, would prevent it from getting worse quickly.
12:03:20 <Ryan> OH - Cooper - nah take an emergency ambulance. Dont screw with EHs
12:03:53 <Cooper> Well, our non-emergencys have X-Ray portables, they would find out what was going wrong before I even got to the hospital
12:04:17 <Cooper> Linda, yes nice large line of severe tunderstorms, surrently near Atlantic City, and Newark
12:06:26 <LindaG> Cooper, yeah north of me is worse. I live on the edge of the pine barrens. 1 million square miles. They suck energy out of storms.
12:06:47 <LindaG> So what's west if me may not make it.
12:07:04 <Cooper> NNOOOO! Tell those pine barrens not to get rid of the sorm, I wanna see it continue!
12:07:13 <Cooper> what city do you live near again?
12:07:38 <LindaG> Manahawkin
12:08:19 <LindaG> Sorry not sq miles, about 1.1 million acreas
12:08:46 <Cooper> looks like you are not going to get hit bad, storm already weakening quickly
12:10:13 <LindaG> Very windy here
12:10:50 <Cooper> gust fronts, they extend from the front of the storm, and move outward quit rapidly, in many cases with a weakaning storm you get the gust front before the thunderstorm...
12:11:02 <Cooper> you might even be able to see/feel the
12:11:10 <Cooper> "waves" of wind if you stand outside for a minute
12:11:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is raining on the the Indycar iRacing now.
12:11:18 <LindaG> Cooper, that southern end of storm is right over pine barrens
12:11:59 <Cooper> you are about 1 mile ish from the edge of the severe storm warning
12:12:08 <Cooper> which means, you will likely get issued a STW here soon.
12:12:56 <Cooper> plus you also have Wind that is not going to stop for a while
12:13:48 <LindaG> All day tomorrow
12:14:37 <Cooper> your next chance for calm winds and skys is Sunday from 1 am to 7 am.
12:14:59 <LindaG> Cooper, 😊thx
12:15:18 <Cooper> so, jsut become nocturnal :p
12:15:48 <Cooper> you should get precipitation here in 5 to 10 mins.
12:15:52 <LindaG> Well luckily cant go anywhere
12:16:03 <Betty> Dome
12:16:12 <Cooper> I would trade, I owuld love a thunderstrom today
12:17:07 <Cooper> too many moving things on this webcam is making my head go bizerk or however yo uspell it.
12:18:08 <Cooper> Radar showing nice line of velocity(where the worst of the storm is) which appears to be heading way north of you.
12:18:41 <Cooper> has anyone seen any wolfies lately?
12:18:57 <LindaG> Nope
12:20:17 <LindaG> Going out to see what needs to be brought in
12:20:48 <Cooper> bye???
12:21:10 <LindaG> Dang storm just hit!
12:21:29 <Cooper> oh, reports?
12:21:57 <Cooper> now what did I say 6 mins ago???(you would get the storm in 5 to 10 mins.
12:22:12 <Cooper> What is it like, and hail, lighting, heavy rain?
12:23:49 <LindaG> High wi ds with heavy rain
12:24:00 <Cooper> estimated wind speed?
12:24:01 <LindaG> *winds
12:24:07 <Betty> LC ie
12:24:33 <Cooper> your worst stuff will be in a few mins or whenver you reach the end of the storm.
12:25:00 <LindaG> Gusting 20-30 mph
12:25:19 <Cooper> ok, so not severe. :)
12:25:35 <Cooper> hmm, do I have icecram, or bacon?
12:26:35 <LindaG> Weather channel says 20mph so gusting 30-40 is probably more accurate
12:26:56 <Cooper> :thumbsup: but not over 58??
12:27:12 <LindaG> LindaG, no I do t think so
12:27:13 <Cooper> 48**
12:27:34 <LindaG> Calmed a bit
12:27:54 <Cooper> well oyu got STW, for hail.(greater than 1 inch)
12:28:32 <Dave from B™> Cooper, are you doing school online at home
12:28:46 <Cooper> yup. until at least April 30th
12:28:50 <Cooper> but likely end of the year
12:29:25 <Cooper> are Parker and Becca home for the year?
12:29:49 <Dave from B™> Yes
12:30:14 <ynpvisitor2> Do they get any credit for this semester?
12:30:41 <ynpvisitor2> Do colleges refund you?
12:33:25 <Dave from B™> Yes, Becca got almost 2K back and she is still taking classes online
12:34:06 <Eric> Most of the colleges are refunding room and board
12:34:25 <Eric> But switching to online coursework so you still get credits.
12:35:11 <ynpvisitor2> Thanks Dave and Eric
12:35:20 <Dave from B™> Eric, did your daughter make a decision yet?
12:35:46 <Dave from B™> Doesn't make up for the 15K lost in their college funds
12:36:33 <Eric> Nope, she has not yet...still sorting finances and options.
12:37:00 <Eric> Also, I am wondering if taking a year gap wouldn't be a bad idea with all the craziness.
12:37:07 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I can imagine option have decreased right now.
12:37:44 <Dave from B™> Eric, it makes a lot of sense if she can keep her mind active
12:38:18 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Maybe take some basic courses at a local school.
12:42:40 <Dave from B™> Go BH
12:42:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That looks better
12:44:08 <ynpvisitor51> Prices will go up after fall term. Like everyone else they are bleeding cash now, and will need to make it up
12:45:11 <Dave from B™> I'm already seeing insurance policies of all kinds going up
12:46:11 <ynpvisitor51> I am expecting my car policy to go down, with people not driving.
12:46:53 <Dave from B™> 2 of mine went up...has nothing to due with not driving. If insurance companies don't make a good rate of return on your premiums that they invest, prices go up.
12:47:37 <ynpvisitor51> True, but not driving = not paying claims.
12:47:57 <ynpvisitor51> One insurer made the news with refunds.
12:48:12 <Dave from B™> I guess my renewal date came too soon
12:50:06 <ynpvisitor51> Or you have the wrong company. They will raise rates especially if you have been with them for years. I have more insurance with a new company and pay lees then half of what I was paying the old company that always congratulated me for being such a loyal customer.
12:50:42 <Ryan> .. back
12:50:59 <Ryan> Reading bacck, Cooper you wont find an epidural hematoma on an X-ray
12:51:06 <ynpvisitor51> Been renewed once and they did not change the rate. After the renewal they dropped a fee.
12:51:46 <Cooper> well, it is already getting better.
12:51:53 <Cooper> So if it gets worse, I will call 911
12:52:38 <Ryan> You need a CT scan for that. Headaches following head injuries (especially concussions) should always be treated as a medical emergency. Sorry, my WFR is kicking in.
12:53:04 <Ryan> I had to use that training for a friend once :(
12:53:35 <Cooper> well, I am not going to the ER for this minor concussion, if it gets worse. We will figure it out.
12:54:17 <Ryan> Not saying you need to. Just having my WFR side kick in. Head injuries are my worst nightmares. :(
12:54:25 <ynpvisitor51> You can call your doctor and do video.
12:54:56 <Cooper> n oneed. I can already walk around, and move my head
12:55:11 <ynpvisitor51> There are no minor concussions these days.
12:55:43 <Ryan> Your very responses still tell me you don't understand head injuries :)
12:56:03 <Cooper> me??
12:56:06 <ynpvisitor51> The neighbors mom could walk around and move her head. She died the next day of a bleed.
12:56:36 <Ryan> Yes. Epidural hematomas typically have a period of lucidity following the head injury.
12:56:42 <Cooper> I dont understand much about head injuries, but my brother, and dad both have wilderness training, survival training, cuncussion training, and other things.
12:57:27 <Ryan> During which time patients often feel everything is fine and then die of traumatic brain injury hours to days later.
12:57:56 <Cooper> well, maybe next time I just dont tell y'all about the next time I hit my head in a door, worrying too much
12:58:04 <Ryan> Thats head injury 101 for WFR, FA, WFA, and basically any other training involving first responses.
12:58:23 <ynpvisitor51> Cooper is hard headed like a big horn sheep, I would not worry.
12:58:31 <Ryan> I am not worrying.
12:58:40 <Cooper> you sound like it Ryan
12:58:54 <Cooper> you definitely sound like it.
12:59:15 <Cooper> and I do have a hard head :)
12:59:16 <Ryan> Nope, you're just telling me that my statements dont apply to you and then immediately following it up with more statements that actually support what I am saying.
12:59:18 <ynpvisitor51> Ryan doe snot like miss informed
12:59:44 <Cooper> Ryan, I am not saying your statements dont apply to me.
13:00:17 <Cooper> they do, because I might have a concussion.
13:00:33 <Ryan> Disagreeing is one thing, disgareeing or dismissing concerns about something that can (and does) kill people is a pretty good way for me to insist that you're wrong.
13:00:58 <Ryan> I'd rather have you peeved at me than dead because I didn't say something. That's how my first responder training worked.
13:01:25 <Cooper> I am nto saying that you are wrong. Now please stop, I understand :)
13:02:13 <Cooper> but thank you for your concern :)
13:02:21 <Ryan> Maybe next time don't bring up a potential traumatic brain injury in here and then shrug it off. Ya never know who's on the otherside of the keyboard. :P
13:03:10 <Eric> Nice climb in SB temps yesterday
13:03:17 <Cooper> and I am not peeved at you, ok, I am, but I am peeved at most things right now :p
13:03:31 <Dave from B™> Eric, yep...tomorrow is the day:)
13:04:01 <Dave from B™> I'm packing right now:)
13:04:05 <Cooper> that is what I was gonna do
13:04:09 <Ryan> Things that get me riled up: physically impossible statements, medical misstatements, and everything else. *leans back, smirks, sips coffee*
13:04:48 <Dave from B™> As long as you don't criticize my perfect geyser predictions, Ryan...I am fine
13:04:49 <Eric> Weird looking at the SB graph from last eruption...never really peaked.
13:05:13 <Ryan> The temp probe moved :)
13:05:28 <Dave from B™> Did anyone ever ask Bill about that?
13:05:37 <Ryan> Depends, Dave... you gonna complain about my Rift observations?
13:05:57 <Eric> That would be my assumption too Ryan
13:06:03 <Cooper> lol Ryan
13:06:24 <ynpvisitor51> Dave, you remind me of the Hogans Heros last night. He was disarming a bomb and was not sure what wire to cut, so asked Klink. He cut the other one.
13:06:36 <Eric> haha
13:06:46 <Dave from B™> haha 51
13:07:02 <Eric> Yep...that anti-Dave pattern we would call that in software :-D
13:07:09 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That is a good one 51.
13:07:17 <Dave from B™> Yep....I should start calling my predictions....non predictions
13:07:21 <Ryan> After 40 ish eruptions with consistent datalogger traces, the sudden and erratic changes in traces tell me the probe moved and is still moving or is fixed differently than before.
13:07:31 <Ryan> I mean, SB varies in its logger traces, but only by so much.
13:07:40 <Eric> or behavior changed :-P
13:08:11 <Ryan> That said, I wonder if there was a strong SW wind, like there was on 4 August 2018. There was basically zero runoff in the channel on that eruption because of the hard winds.
13:08:28 <Ryan> I dont think theres a trace for it, but I could see runoff just simply stopping without a surge.
13:09:03 <ynpvisitor51> Isn't that the same probe that was reset?
13:09:35 <Ryan> Unless SB is managing to start major eruptions without a massive surge at the start I dont think the behavior changed. I don't think the silver bullets happen in both vents.
13:10:06 <Ryan> 4 August 2018 was about as close to a silver bullet start as I think we have seen.
13:12:44 <Dave from B™> Time for Grand....hurry up OF
13:14:36 <Dave from B™> I'm setting up online banking for my new bank. The security questions they have selected are even hard for me to answer!
13:16:00 <Dave from B™> What state did you first visit (outside the one you were born in)?
13:16:27 <Ryan> Frustration and confusion.
13:17:00 <Dave from B™> Good thing there were over 30 questions to choose from
13:17:03 <Ryan> I think I was born in peace - at least I was not crying.
13:17:09 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I know that one
13:19:42 <Betty> OF ie
13:20:34 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Well the bugs are out.
13:21:23 <Betty> Aurum on static?
13:22:10 <JarnoO> certainly looked like it
13:22:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I hope not
13:22:22 <JarnoO>
13:22:38 <JarnoO> Lion post-eruptive
13:23:15 <Dave from B™> GRAND
13:23:21 <Ryan> You know I partially blame geyser gazers for my frequently hard driving demeanor regarding accuracy and mis-information. You can only have Micah, Gordon Bower, and HK go after you so many times for minor screw ups until you just decide to do it right the first time. (Or, as right as possible)
13:23:23 <Dave from B™> 1323 ie
13:23:43 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Why do they all go at once?
13:23:59 <Dave from B™> haha, Ryan. You have good teachers!
13:24:02 <Betty> just to please you
13:24:27 <Ryan> Yeah. I do, Dave.
13:25:01 <Ryan> One of the lines that sticks out to me on HK's rules of geyser gazing: If you think the minute an eruption starts doesn't matter, then don't even bother taking the time.
13:25:46 <Ryan> Gordon's teachings went after the same thing on heights and distances.
13:26:06 <Ryan> Micah's went after history, geology, and consistency...
13:26:23 <Ryan> So dont get mad at me, blame them. :)
13:26:33 <JarnoO> I think Grotto Fountain might be going just right of Grand
13:26:50 <JarnoO> obviously Grand ruins it now
13:27:57 <Ryan> I'd agree for Grotto Fountain. Wait for Grotto to confdirm
13:28:01 <JarnoO> b≥1 done
13:28:34 <Ryan> Wait wait
13:28:38 <Ryan> Stay in for Grotto
13:28:39 <JarnoO> OT ie
13:30:07 <Ryan> Grotto should be in the next 5 minutes if that is GF
13:30:49 <JarnoO> Grotto looking a bit steamier now
13:31:10 <Ryan> You shoudl see water for the Grotto start
13:32:50 <Ryan> On very rare occaisons South Grotto Fountain Geyser can go into series for up to an hour before Grotto Fountain starts.
13:33:31 <JarnoO> interesting
13:33:42 <Jake> hour(s)
13:33:51 <kc (working)> what if an eruption starts right near the top of a minute, and one can't discern whether or not it exactly started before or after the top of the minute? or if their clock is precisely tuned. or any # of other variables. minutes are always going to have a certain fudge factor, imho
13:33:52 <Ryan> Oh is it more than an hour?
13:35:04 <Ryan> The three I saw were 45-130 minutes if I remember right. I thought the 2hr one was an exceptional event. Guess not.
13:35:24 <Ryan> South Grotto Fountain solos would look more or less like that - wispy steam.
13:35:46 <Ryan> Because if that is Grotto Fountain it would be getting bigger and stronger with each minute. We should be seeing water by now.
13:36:47 <JarnoO> so does SGF act like Startling in such cases?
13:36:59 <Ryan> Nah
13:37:13 <Ryan> Not from what I saw. It just kind of sits there and boils and sputters.
13:37:41 <Ryan> It would erupt every time the Grotto complex hit one of their "high"s every twnety minutes or so.
13:37:44 <Jake> I have seen SGF do a series of eruptions and the Platform Events conspire back and forth to hold off Grotto F and Grotto for most of a day
13:37:50 <Ryan> Eventually GF and Grotto kicked off.
13:38:25 <Ryan> There you have it. My series did not have the Platform Vents involved.
13:38:34 <Ryan> I learned something today :)
13:38:44 <JarnoO> that's a long delay
13:39:08 <Jake> yes, kc, definitely a fudge factor for geysers to-the-minute, depends on the geyser and the reporter the amount of fudge :)
13:39:51 <Ryan> I think HK's comment was more angled towards people who casually dismiss differing start times.
13:40:25 <JarnoO> such as "that one minute doesn't matter"
13:40:46 <Ryan> Exactly.
13:40:52 <JarnoO> Grotto now?
13:41:15 <Ryan> I didnt see water
13:41:28 <Jake> I would say yes
13:41:39 <JarnoO> a zoom would help :)
13:41:40 <Jake> big billows on that steam
13:41:47 <Ryan> I am on delay.
13:41:58 <Ryan> That is Grotto.
13:42:24 <Ryan> I'd agreew with the early GF observation, JarnoO. Guess it just wasnt as tall as usual.
13:42:43 <JarnoO> time for the famous "it does that" :P
13:43:15 <Ryan> :(
13:43:16 <Jake> has someone seen Grotto Ftn water from this cam?
13:43:34 <Dave from B™> Jarno, do not say will set Ryan off:D and me, too:D
13:43:54 <Ryan> No, not sure weve been looking though. I know we can see Grotto water so I'd assume we'd see GF. Same leevation and similar heights with enough duration
13:43:56 <JarnoO> I've only identified it by steam plume once before, Jake
13:44:25 <Dave from B™> Ryan, I was glad you said that in your Google post. I try to ask a serious question at Steamboat or Morning or Giant and I would hear that answer. I hate it.
13:44:40 <Ryan> With a 20min possible duration I'd assume we'd see GF by that point. It's usually pushing 40-50ft with that type of lead time right?
13:44:42 <LindaG> This is a nice plug for the webcam
13:44:55 <Ryan> You're welcome Dave. I got tired of the same thing
13:48:08 <Jake> GF is pretty variable in size. At it's best, I've seen it clear the height of the closest tree to it, and at its weakest, a 3-4 ft "false" start. I think of GF hitting taller heights than Grotto more consistently so it could be visible on the cam by that measure by the tree placements and other geometry stuff could easily prevent that
13:48:20 <Dave from B™> Or, the more you've seen SB, the less you know
13:48:32 <Jake> *but the tree placements. . .
13:49:05 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think we missed Daisy during OF and Grand
13:49:15 <JarnoO> downbasin could use some fires in that regard
13:49:36 <Ryan> I'd agree, Jake. The best I've seen was about 45ft during a ~20min eruption
13:50:09 <JarnoO> am thinking the same, Kevin
13:53:28 <JarnoO> Next Lion @ 1432±5m if the series continues. Using 1h10m since it was seen post-eruptive @ 1322
14:03:59 <JarnoO> AB
14:05:45 <JarnoO> Dome
14:07:42 <JarnoO> I can't help but notice persistent steam from the Big Cub/Lioness area
14:08:29 <JarnoO> might be that I'm looking at LC though
14:13:17 <JarnoO> LC
14:14:01 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think there is steam behind LC. Should we send Dave an text?
14:14:14 <JarnoO> :)
14:14:36 <Dave from B™> Thanks for thinking of me:)
14:15:00 <JarnoO> I'm probably imagining things, but I'm not used to seeing this steam output from both BC and Lioness at these temperatures and humidity
14:15:11 <Ryan> Adios everyone
14:15:19 <JarnoO> cya Ryan, take care
14:15:19 <Ryan> Hasta Manana
14:15:25 <Dave from B™> Bye, Ryan. Enjoy your hike!
14:15:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Had some Costco cod the other day Dave. Awesome.
14:15:42 <Betty> bye Ryan
14:15:49 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Bye Ryan. Don't get hit in the head.
14:17:03 <Dave from B™> It's getting hard to get fresh fish in these days with most int'l and domestic flights cancelled
14:18:16 <The Zinc-er> Speaking oceanographically, I wonder if this will have an effect on fisheries stocks anywhere.
14:19:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They had the big shrimp for the cheapest I have seen it in years. Had the wife buy 2 boxes.
14:21:22 <Dave from B™> I doubt it will have any effect on fish stocks ubt it all depends on how long shutdown lasts
14:22:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I was hoping to get to Utah and get some fresh rainbow trout but I don't see that happening. I was supposed to be in Idaho this week. :P
14:27:51 <JarnoO> dome
14:28:53 <Eric> big old bull there in the middle
14:29:48 <Eric> SB tomorrow morning?
14:30:09 <JarnoO> I hope so
14:30:28 <Cooper> thinking1449 tommorow
14:30:32 <CraigC> Eric, I'd say that is early part of possible
14:30:51 <CraigC> but I have been watching already
14:30:57 <Dave from B™> 410 pm on 4/10
14:31:00 <Eric> Well, sounds like it's in the ballpark then
14:31:20 <Eric> Nice Dave...maybe a Steamboat for my daughters 18th birthday!
14:31:27 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Ballparks are closed now.
14:32:30 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Can you fish now in Utah Craig?
14:32:51 <JarnoO> purr
14:32:54 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, not in boats where you have to use a public dock
14:33:19 <Kevin L™ 🌵> You can still do stream fishing then?
14:33:36 <CraigC> I haven't seen any rule against going to a shore or a river and fishing
14:34:03 <CraigC> a nearby urban fishery park closed off the entire park from any use
14:34:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> As long as you stay 6 feet from the fish...
14:34:24 <JarnoO> haha
14:34:38 <CraigC> stay away from cats, just posted a new article that cats can carry it
14:34:58 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hope that #$#@#&^% bobcat gets it.
14:35:09 <CraigC>
14:35:20 <JarnoO> apparantly it evolved again to accustom to cats. "Fun" stuff
14:35:22 <JarnoO> roar
14:35:27 <JarnoO> Lion
14:35:47 <CraigC> ...speaking of cats
14:35:49 <Eric> good call on your 1322 note
14:36:57 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Lion is one of the best geysers on the cam.
14:37:29 <CraigC> one of my faves in person, too..... very aesthetically pleasing
14:37:49 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I mostly see it from Aurum.
14:38:03 <JarnoO> well, Lion just assured me that I'm writing no nonsense about three phases to its eruption. Good
14:38:46 <JarnoO> it's currently in the second phase
14:38:53 <ynpvisitor44> M neighbor is still golfing.
14:39:27 <JarnoO> third phase (steam) just commenced
14:39:40 <Eric> Hard to beat sitting on the dubblet bench, feeling the thumps at sunset and watching an initial Lion!
14:40:00 <CraigC> doooblay pool
14:40:06 <ynpvisitor44> Lion has 4 phases, you forgot sleeing.
14:40:10 <Eric> Yes, it's crazy that golf courses are open, but trails are shutdown!
14:40:11 <Dave from B™> 44, you live next to Trump?:)
14:40:16 <CraigC> ynpvisitor44, hahaha
14:40:36 <CraigC> my friends have been golfing, they went yesterday
14:40:43 <ynpvisitor44> Not enough cash in Montana to get me to go to DC
14:40:51 <JarnoO> #44, I'm only talking about eruptive phases, not the sleeping part :)
14:40:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> There are almost no golf courses left in Vegas.
14:41:37 <Kevin L™ 🌵> LONG established courses have gone out of business in the last 5 years.
14:41:53 <CraigC> trails don't have lateral space like a GC, though..... did you see the article I posted yesterday about distance of hikers and bikers and their slipstreams of droplets?
14:41:55 <Dave from B™> Land is too expensive, Kevin?
14:41:58 <ynpvisitor44> I remember reading way back that there were no casting pools left in Tokyo. They converted them to driving ranges and use plastic balls that float.
14:42:24 <ynpvisitor44> lc
14:43:19 <CraigC> Eric,
14:43:33 <CraigC> On the basis of these results the scientist advises that for walking the distance of people moving in the same direction in 1 line should be at least 4–5 meter, for running and slow biking it should be 10 meters and for hard biking at least 20 meters. Also, when passing someone it is advised to already be in different lane at a considerable distance e.g. 20 meters for biking.
14:43:55 <Cooper> oh Craig, yesterday I read the rest ofthe walrus and the carpanter, you have good memory :)
14:44:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am not sure what is going on with them Dave. Really strange sine about 15 years ago it was a major thing.
14:44:11 <CraigC> Cooper, did you cry for the oysters
14:44:11 <ynpvisitor44> aweemaway aweemaway
14:44:44 <Cooper> no, I thought is a good way to get dinner :P
14:45:10 <JarnoO> Next Lion @ 1542±5m, provided the series continues (3m45s = 1h07m [3m40s ≤ d ≤ 3m49s])
14:45:27 <CraigC> Cooper, they have found that the poem is a good way to determine level of sociopathy based on one's reaction for the oysters
14:46:06 <Cooper> I cared for the oysers, but I thought it was smart.
14:46:27 <CraigC> they don't allow to change your answer
14:46:33 <JarnoO> OF
14:47:21 <Eric> Hey Craig, I did not see it, but there is so much crap on medium...95% of it is garbage science, so take everything you read there with a shaker of salt.
14:47:40 <JarnoO> Just don't let it be a smart shaker, Eric
14:48:10 <JarnoO> short
14:48:19 <Eric> Cause I'm, wastin away in margaritaville!
14:48:28 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We had a literature teacher that was the worst. Every work "Condemned society because _________________". (Fill in the blank.)
14:49:14 <CraigC> Coca Cola?
14:49:27 <CraigC> Rock n Roll?
14:49:31 <Dave from B™> haha
14:49:31 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It was anything.
14:49:40 <CraigC> fish?
14:49:48 <CraigC> skateboards?
14:49:59 <CraigC> long hair?
14:50:14 <ynpvisitor44> long hair is in now
14:50:21 <CraigC> doh
14:50:28 <JarnoO> "Condemned society because iT DoEs ThAt"
14:50:36 <Dave from B™> Time for me to head home. Have a great evening everyone!
14:50:42 <CraigC> cya Dave
14:50:42 <JarnoO> cya Dave, enjoy your evening
14:50:57 <Eric> Night Dave
14:51:02 <Kevin L™ 🌵> You name it, Craig. It was on his list. You couldn't write a story to just be a story.
14:51:10 <Eric> Condemned society because Dave.
14:51:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Bye Dave.
14:51:18 <CraigC> LOL
14:51:38 <CraigC> 'Dave and deer'
14:51:40 <Dave from B™> No, anti-Dave
14:51:54 <Eric> haha :-D
14:52:17 <CraigC> "Dave was a handsome man...."
14:52:18 <Dave from B™> Do you guys need another prediction before I go?:D
14:52:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> He had some bizarre views on Ray Bradbury.
14:52:31 <ynpvisitor44> I always said cats are evil who knew they would be our downfall?
14:52:40 <Kevin L™ 🌵> How about Aurum Dave?
14:52:50 <Eric> he's got a purty mouth!
14:52:55 <CraigC> Ray Bradbury is great
14:53:22 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, if you like Bradbury, you might like Tales from the Loop
14:53:25 <Kevin L™ 🌵> He is indeed one of the greats. Love The Illustrated Man.
14:53:34 <ynpvisitor44> of will go twice in 3 hours.
14:53:48 <Eric> Tales from the pretty tough to digest!
14:54:08 <CraigC> Eric, yep, my kind of show
14:54:36 <Eric> Did Betty pop into the park and see Dome in person?!
14:54:44 <JarnoO> I once had a teacher who expected well-formed answers. E.g. "verb" as answer wasn't enough, it had to be "The word 'says' is a verb.". It wasn't told in class beforehand, nor it was written down anywhere. Needless to say there were quite some red margins on all tests
14:54:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think it was Dimension X on OTR that did a bunch of Bradbury.
14:55:38 <Eric> Time and dimensional travel turns me off :-(
14:56:52 <ynpvisitor44> I had a crazy english teacher that thought it was more important to memorize his points of correction then learn how to not receive them.
14:57:26 <Betty> I sit behind Dome in Craigs chair
14:57:50 <Kevin L™ 🌵> My Mom was going to take a college course (she was early 30's) and the professor bragged to them that he flunked more than half of his students failed and that he had never given an A. She stood up and told him if he was that bad at teaching she would take the course from someone who knew how to teach and left. She said the more than hlf the room followed her out.
14:57:55 <ynpvisitor44> marks of correction
14:58:04 <Betty> thx for the hint, Eric. Fixed it
14:58:24 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, good job of your mom
14:58:55 <Betty> smart move
14:59:14 <Eric> Yes, morons like that should not teach!
14:59:27 <ynpvisitor44> There is a jab in there someplace. I refrain.
14:59:53 <CraigC> there for his own interests and ego, and not the students
14:59:58 <ynpvisitor44> Like the ivy leage profs that said they would not teach virtual classes?
15:01:02 <CraigC> isn't adaptation linked with inteliigence?
15:01:43 <Eric> probably more with age Craig. We get less adaptable as our synapses set.
15:01:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Educated beyond their intelligence.
15:02:19 <CraigC> or more ornerier
15:02:27 <Eric> Babies are super adaptable.
15:03:15 <ynpvisitor44> Adaptability is a state of mind.
15:03:33 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Or a matter of survival.
15:03:58 <Eric> Hmm, actually there are physiological changes that take place in our brains.
15:04:22 <Eric> While we can change as we get older, it just takes a LOT more effort.
15:04:59 <Eric> I have always contented that we are as smart as we will ever be when born and keep getting dumber.
15:05:41 <CraigC> well, as far as figuring out different ways to complete a task successfully seems like a test of how smart one is
15:05:45 <Eric> You do his a sweet spot though when knowledge and adaptability are at their maximum.
15:05:58 <Eric> his = hit
15:06:39 <CraigC> seems ironic that professors can only see one way to teach
15:07:17 <Eric> I Can't judge...I am not a teacher. Maybe they are correct?
15:07:22 <JarnoO> BSB?
15:08:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Best teacher I ever had adapted a method to each student.
15:09:33 <CraigC> dome ?
15:10:14 <CraigC> I don't see Betty
15:10:27 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Where is your chair?
15:12:04 <JarnoO> the best teacher I had really knew his stuff and made us truly believe he understood what we were on about and was open for different ideas, as well as "fixing" what our previous teacher for that subject failed to do
15:12:06 <JarnoO> Daisy
15:12:27 <ynpvisitor44> I think she is behind the trees, that big beer caught up with her.
15:13:13 <JarnoO> likely two short intervals
15:13:48 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think so Jarno
15:14:31 <JarnoO> I wonder when 2h10m±20m will be changed to 2h00m±20m or better :)
15:15:18 <Kevin L™ 🌵> For a long time it was 90m. Most of the time spot on.
15:16:00 <JarnoO> so like a second Old Faithful?
15:17:54 <ChrisO> All the doggies wandered off i guess
15:18:28 <ynpvisitor44> You think Kevin could handle it if Aurum went off every 90 minutes?
15:19:05 <ChrisO> there they are :)
15:19:12 <ynpvisitor44> is that off?
15:19:16 <JarnoO> I think Kevin would miss more than half of them anyway, giving the perception that it goes off every 3h-4½h :)
15:20:04 <ynpvisitor44> He would have to take shorter naps.
15:20:30 <JarnoO> or sleep with one eye open
15:21:56 <ynpvisitor44> Now woul dbe a good time to see an otter
15:22:11 <Eric> I'm Beefin!
15:22:48 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Nice bison porterhouse would be good.
15:23:19 <ynpvisitor44> Grind it into Nachos.
15:25:45 <ynpvisitor44> Mmmm head cheese
15:30:37 <ynpvisitor28> Is OF supposed to be marked short at 13:18?
15:30:53 <ynpvisitor44> Well enjoy the bugs, and beware of sleeping lions.
15:31:25 <JarnoO> don't think so, #28. At least the interval suggests it wasn't a short
15:31:28 <JarnoO> cya #44
15:31:28 <ynpvisitor17> oooh back to back shorts .... that woud be unusual
15:31:38 <JarnoO> Dome
15:32:19 <JarnoO> I'm not sure what Kevin saw, though
15:32:34 <ynpvisitor28> That's what I thought
15:32:34 <JarnoO> pur from Lion
15:32:56 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That one should have been long.
15:33:22 <ChrisO> Thanks for zooming in on the doggies :) Will be back later
15:33:32 <JarnoO> cya Chris
15:35:29 <JarnoO> afternoon Graham
15:36:18 <GO STEAMBOAT> hello. its time for the Boat
15:36:56 <GO STEAMBOAT> in 4h we hit the median interval for the last 100
15:37:11 <JarnoO> roar
15:37:52 <JarnoO> MC?
15:38:40 <JarnoO> LC
15:39:43 <JarnoO> roar
15:41:40 <JarnoO> roar
15:43:49 <JarnoO> I guess it really wants to go during OF :(
15:44:00 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We may never know
15:47:48 <JarnoO> OF
15:52:55 <JarnoO> looks like it still hasn't gone yet
15:53:07 <JarnoO> Lion
15:53:09 <Eric> Lion
15:53:32 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I take back half the bad things I said about OF.
15:54:40 <Eric> nice
15:54:51 <JarnoO> well... I guess I can throw my article in the bin about the predictability of Lion :P Just kidding
15:55:00 <Eric> :-D
15:56:37 <JarnoO> and done
15:56:42 <JarnoO> steam
15:58:49 <Cooper> bbl
15:59:06 <Kat> Evening all...
15:59:47 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi. Controls released
15:59:58 <Betty> time for sleep, night all
16:00:00 <Eric> Hi Kat
16:00:03 <JarnoO> night Betty
16:00:04 <Eric> Night Betty
16:00:07 <JarnoO> afternoon Kat
16:00:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Night Betty
16:00:16 <Kat> Thanks Kevin L™ 🌵, have a good evening
16:00:26 <Kat> Night Betty
16:00:41 <Kat> Hi Eric, Betty
16:02:22 <Kat> Hi jarno - didn't mean to missyou!
16:02:43 <JarnoO> no worries
16:03:02 <Kat> :)
16:03:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> RIP
16:03:49 <JarnoO> Next Lion, provided the series continues, @ 1656±5m (3m28s = 1h04m±5m [3m20s ≤ d ≤ 3m29s])
16:03:52 <JarnoO> BSB
16:03:54 <JarnoO> ie
16:03:54 <Kat> BSB
16:05:17 <JarnoO> weak answer by Bee
16:07:00 <JarnoO> FYI, Daisy had a 3h52m double interval @ 1511
16:07:50 <Eric> scrubba dub dbu
16:07:52 <Eric> dub
16:08:20 <Eric> needs another couple wipes :-D
16:10:19 <Kat> Wow almost 60 degrees!
16:16:33 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Cold here today 56° now
16:17:19 <JarnoO> might want to consider moving to Yellowstone. 1 degree warmer than at your place, Kevin
16:18:21 <Kat> Hot and humid here
16:19:49 <GO STEAMBOAT> dome
16:19:49 <Kat> Dome
16:20:00 <Eric> So many bison everywhere!
16:20:19 <JarnoO> Indy?
16:20:23 <JarnoO> Indy
16:20:23 <JarnoO> .
16:20:24 <JarnoO> .
16:20:25 <JarnoO> .
16:20:25 <JarnoO> .
16:20:26 <JarnoO> .
16:20:29 <Eric> Yep
16:20:40 <JarnoO> AB
16:20:42 <Eric> woot...i was just staring at that right before you pinged!
16:20:54 <Eric> BSB too
16:21:22 <GO STEAMBOAT> someone sending text?
16:22:02 <Kat> I can't GO STEAMBOAT,
16:22:14 <GO STEAMBOAT> done
16:22:31 <CraigC> :thumbsup:
16:22:45 <Eric> got txt
16:22:52 <ynpvisitor109> Yay Indy
16:22:56 <KevinS> got it
16:23:01 <Kat> Thanks!
16:23:09 <Kat> Hi Linda
16:23:12 <JarnoO> afternoon Linda
16:23:18 <LindaG> Logged in just as a got txt
16:23:24 <LindaG> JarnoO, hi
16:23:28 <LindaG> Kat, hi
16:23:44 <GO STEAMBOAT> we have to spread out in the chat room to social distance
16:23:54 <Kitt> yay, indy text
16:24:02 <JarnoO> afternoon Kitt
16:24:07 <KevinS> Kitt, Hi
16:24:15 <LindaG> KevinS, hi
16:24:16 <Kat> Hi Kitt
16:24:20 <Kitt> hello
16:24:39 <LindaG> Hi all!
16:24:44 <Kitt> I tried to see bee yesterday, but it took too long to log in
16:25:12 <Cooper> Bee trying
16:25:17 <GO STEAMBOAT> looks like you will have time today Kitt
16:25:35 <Kitt> and fluffy isn't due
16:25:38 <Kitt> yay
16:25:46 <LindaG> Cooper, I was wrong about wind. They had a 71 mph wi d Guest out by ocean
16:25:47 <JarnoO> a rare occasion :)
16:25:52 <LindaG> *gust
16:26:04 <GO STEAMBOAT> t is windy here
16:26:21 <Kitt> where is here Steamboat?
16:26:24 <Cooper> thx Linda.
16:26:45 <LindaG> Cooper, so by me I'd say 50-60
16:26:51 <Cooper> ok.
16:26:55 <Kitt> Worland has a very light breeze
16:28:05 <LindaG> Cooper, took some siding off my house
16:28:17 <Cooper> really???
16:28:22 <LindaG> Yup
16:28:33 <Cooper> which side, the side facing north, south, east, west
16:28:58 <LindaG> Southwest
16:29:53 <Kitt> I would love a boom start today bee
16:30:11 <JarnoO> it's thinking about it
16:31:12 <JarnoO> 10m so far
16:35:49 <GO STEAMBOAT> will we get to 20 min, 30, 40?
16:36:11 <JarnoO> :bee:
16:36:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Better be under 30
16:36:53 <Kitt> Beehive!
16:36:56 <LindaG> Yay
16:36:57 <Kevin L™ 🌵> May get a rainbow
16:37:38 <JarnoO> it
16:37:39 <Kitt> Bee is taller than the cam who hoo
16:37:41 <JarnoO> it's a good one
16:38:00 <Kat> Beautiful!
16:38:05 <Eric> nice light!
16:38:16 <LindaG> Sparkly
16:38:31 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Faint rainbow to the right at times
16:38:48 <Kat> Yep! :)
16:38:59 <LindaG> 😊
16:39:20 <Kitt> Jarno, did bee start when you put the bee on chat? trying to figure out if my view is delayed
16:39:52 <Kat> Started 1636
16:40:24 <Kat> I think Jarno's time posted is correct.
16:40:36 <JarnoO> Start was 1636:05
16:40:51 <Kitt> thanks, then my view was delayed
16:41:24 <Eric> Nice afternoon of gazing!
16:41:29 <Eric> dome, lion, BH!
16:41:31 <JarnoO> it is
16:41:34 <LindaG> Nice one, thanks go steamboat
16:41:50 <Kat> :D
16:41:51 <Kitt> Steamboat must be Graham
16:41:59 <GO STEAMBOAT> :thumbsup:
16:42:05 <Eric> coming up on an aurum window :-D
16:42:08 <GO STEAMBOAT> still waiting for the 40min BHI
16:42:11 <Kitt> he's the only one that wants longer idicators
16:42:26 <GO STEAMBOAT> >(
16:42:27 <Eric> dome
16:42:53 <Kitt> we already have enough sleeping or dead geysers
16:42:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> or maybe 20min BSB's
16:42:59 <JarnoO> Graham, I'm not into Indicator solos at the moment
16:43:03 <CraigC> been a busy day of thermals on the cam.... this morning was one of the most active shifts I have had
16:43:15 <Kitt> thanks for the text
16:43:24 <LindaG> CraigC, hi
16:43:28 <CraigC> hey Linda
16:43:54 <JarnoO> Lion will enter its window @ 1651
16:44:15 <CraigC> I didn't even have time to follow bison around
16:44:23 <Kat> :lol:
16:44:30 <Eric> Bison stalker!
16:44:31 <JarnoO> the most important thing, isn't it?
16:44:36 <CraigC> ;)
16:44:46 <LindaG> CraigC, well those darn geysers lol
16:45:13 <CraigC> fact is, when people send in letters to YNP re cam, it is usually about wildlife, no?
16:45:19 <Kat> Get in your way everytime!!
16:45:50 <LindaG> I'm sure they love the wildlife
16:46:08 <LindaG> CraigC, they loved your ravens
16:46:20 <CraigC> LindaG, yeah, I was thinking of that one, too
16:46:32 <LindaG> That was sweet
16:47:00 <KevinS> CraigC, Wolves followed the bison for you
16:47:40 <CraigC> KevinS, ;)
16:50:04 <JarnoO> purr
16:51:09 <LindaG> Wow 28 chatters
16:52:11 <Eric> I see 26
16:52:20 <Kat> I see 28
16:52:26 <JarnoO> I see 26
16:52:30 <Eric> You guys have more chatters than me :-P
16:52:39 <Kat> :p
16:52:49 <Eric> page refresh still shows 26
16:52:59 <CraigC> eric ignored me twice
16:53:01 <LindaG> Mine says 28
16:53:07 <LindaG> Now 27
16:53:08 <CraigC> mine says 25
16:53:13 <JarnoO> 25 here
16:53:13 <Kat> MIne now says 27
16:53:23 <JarnoO> roar
16:53:25 <Eric> 25 too
16:53:38 <JarnoO> splash
16:53:40 <Eric> ynp25 quit
16:53:47 <Eric> Go Lion!
16:53:49 <JarnoO> Lion
16:53:51 <Eric> boom
16:53:51 <CraigC> lion
16:53:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> 25 plus too is 27
16:54:07 <Eric> or two
16:54:25 <LindaG> I refreshed still 27
16:54:49 <KevinS> 25
16:57:02 <JarnoO> Joe just "quit" and joined within a short period of time. Now it says 26
16:57:13 <JarnoO> now 25
16:57:20 <JarnoO> because #101 quit
16:57:29 <Eric> Lion still ie
16:57:35 <Eric> resurge?
16:58:15 <Eric> gone now :-(
16:58:40 <Kat> Sorry - did'nt see that
16:59:19 <Eric> No problem :-D
17:00:23 <Kat> :)
17:01:30 <LindaG> I did not
17:01:44 <Kat> hehehehe
17:02:36 <LindaG> 😊
17:03:32 <Kat> LindaG, had a Philly cheese-steak for dinner tonight! Best around here!
17:03:43 <LindaG> Kat, yum
17:04:02 <Kat> Took forever to find a good one!
17:04:25 <LindaG> Kat, yeah I guess it's a regional thing
17:04:42 <JarnoO> this was a tough Lion to time according to the rules I've written down in the article I'll hopefully post soon. However, despite the resurgence I'm timing it at 3m21s because of the very short pause that occurred. 3m21s stop, 3m22s start of steam
17:05:29 <JarnoO> if that pause isn't taken into account, the duration would be 3m42s
17:06:02 <JarnoO> Just a few frames between panning from Dome to downbasin show it stopping again
17:07:05 <JarnoO> prediction-wise - 3m21s yields next eruption @ 1757±5m, 3m42s gives 1800±5m
17:07:30 <Kat> JarnoO, where are the rules you are talking about
17:07:45 <JarnoO> I've got them currently in draft form on my computer
17:08:09 <Kat> SO you are wrting them based on data and observation?
17:08:15 <JarnoO> yes
17:08:42 <Kat> Cool - thanks
17:18:48 <Cooper> So, I just spent a few mins measuring things, and I am thinking SB tomorrow 4/10/2020 16:01
17:22:16 <LindaGt> Cooper, 👍
17:23:46 <LindaGt> Wow steamboat was 7 days ago already, huh
17:23:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Pass on the Loop Linda
17:24:18 <LindaGt> Kevin L™ 🌵, 😊
17:30:49 <Kat> OF
17:31:13 <JarnoO> Daisy likely went alread
17:31:14 <JarnoO> y
17:32:51 <JarnoO> and an attempt short
17:32:59 <JarnoO> it looked so promising
17:35:12 <JarnoO> 60°F
17:36:03 <Kat> I marked it long JarnoO,
17:37:41 <LindaGt> Dinnertime
17:37:53 <JarnoO> Enjoy
17:38:01 <Kat> Bye Linda
17:38:34 <JarnoO> OF was >3m57s. You panned away just as OF was having its final jets :)
17:38:44 <JarnoO> >3m52s*
17:40:37 <Kat> definitively long
17:45:54 <JarnoO> looks like a Turban
17:47:17 <Kat> Looks like it
17:48:35 <JarnoO> it appears Echinus has thrown a wrench into the elevated temperature model. It had another one today :)
17:50:16 <JarnoO> actually, it appears to be ambient temperature is the culprit
17:50:46 <Kat> around noon today?
17:51:11 <JarnoO> it got to 15°C/59°F today at Nuphar
17:52:49 <JarnoO> Echinus and Constant both spike at noon with their average temperature
17:56:12 <JarnoO> Lion is due
17:56:19 <JarnoO> also OT again
17:56:26 <JarnoO> Castle
17:56:30 <Eric> nice
17:56:34 <Eric> was just typing that :-D
17:56:44 <Eric> Caught the start
17:57:02 <Kat> That was a great start!
17:57:12 <Eric> OT is ie too Kat
17:57:41 <Kat> Got it! Thanks
17:57:59 <ynpvisitor90> So much to do and so little time to do it.
17:58:07 <JarnoO> could you do a quick peek at Lion?
17:58:56 <Kat> :)
17:59:02 <JarnoO> thanks. Looks like it hasn't gone yet
17:59:21 <JarnoO> Might be worth keeping that one in view if the frame allows
17:59:34 <JarnoO> evening Jeff
17:59:42 <Jeff> hows it going JarnoO
17:59:57 <JarnoO> good, how are you?
18:00:28 <Jeff> eh not too bad just bored
18:00:30 <Kat> Castle to Lion
18:00:38 <JarnoO> nice
18:00:51 <Jeff> been trying to get a bunch of videos edited for some friends
18:01:07 <JarnoO> I guess you have time o' plenty for that now
18:01:37 <Jeff> as of right now ive been doing it almost all day everyday and i got about 2 1/2 more weeks left of it
18:02:17 <JarnoO> editing?
18:02:24 <Jeff> yea
18:02:39 <JarnoO> that's a lot of footage they made then
18:03:08 <Jeff> well.... they do youtube for a living so its a constant rotation between me and them of sending footage
18:03:45 <JarnoO> ah, one of those
18:03:52 <Jeff> yea
18:04:09 <Jeff> but i can finally start clearing my backlog of other videos i gotta get done
18:05:14 <JarnoO> Lion
18:05:40 <JarnoO> hm, maybe I should've went with the 3m42s window instead of 3m21s :P
18:06:21 <JarnoO> LC ie
18:10:27 <ynpvisitor98> MC
18:12:00 <JarnoO> Next Lion @ 1910±5m, provided the series continues.
18:12:06 <JarnoO> 3m34s
18:12:32 <JarnoO> Castle major
18:12:41 <Kat> Yes
18:14:05 <Kat> Nice Castle this evening!
18:17:43 <Kat> Aurum.
18:17:45 <Kat> >
18:17:49 <Kat> .
18:17:50 <Kat> .
18:18:11 <Kat> Over already!
18:19:56 <Kat> Dome
18:25:19 <ynpvisitor88> get video is the best
18:25:32 <ynpvisitor88> the castle bursts were great
18:29:59 <Cooper> OMG why am I so clumsy today!?...
18:30:09 <Cooper> 1st I slam my own head in the door
18:30:21 <Cooper> 2nd I fall backwards and possibly givemyself a minor concussion
18:30:37 <Cooper> 3rd I slam my foot into a wall while failing to walk properly.
18:30:51 <Cooper> 4th I accidently stand up and funny bone myself 3 times.
18:30:58 <Kat> Time to go to bed Cooper!
18:31:01 <Cooper> and 5th I band my knee into a corner.
18:31:08 <CraigC> maybe your brain is broken from #1
18:31:09 <Cooper> Kat, been like this all day :)
18:31:24 <Cooper> Well, I am still able to do SB data, so my brain is functioning
18:31:25 <Kat> :)
18:31:35 <KevinS> Still trying to figure out an accidental stand up
18:31:36 <CraigC> maybe not ALL of the parts
18:31:51 <Cooper> uhm, my cordination part is what you think is not working?
18:32:21 <Cooper> then how would I be able to play a good 1/2 hour of competative badminton without falling, or messing up once? :P
18:33:17 <CraigC> sounds like you have all the answers you need on your own, carry on
18:34:35 <Cooper> haha
18:34:48 <Cooper> I am havving a bunch of fun right now..
18:35:14 <Cooper> watching adn doing my normal Cam and Chat things, Looking at SB data, and yelling at a volcano movie for all its mistakes.
18:36:26 <JarnoO> I made the decision to split up my article in two, as I think the "personal thoughts" section would distract one from the actual meaning of it
18:36:46 <Cooper> so are you done with hte article then? or just the first part?
18:37:47 <JarnoO> the first part is as good as it'll likely get. Just need to add an image and get rid of the 80 character limit and it should be good
18:39:41 <Cooper> looking forward to reading it!
18:40:53 <Kat> Bulger ie
18:43:26 <LindaG> Ive returned to geyser land 😋
18:44:31 <KevinS> welcome back
18:44:51 <KevinS> What is your SB prediction Linda?
18:44:52 <Kat> Halo
18:46:59 <LindaG> KevinS, hmmm I'll go with 8days15hrs and 5 mins, a total guess ofmcourse
18:47:34 <LindaG> KevinS, what is yours?
18:47:42 <LindaG> Kat, hi
18:49:02 <KevinS> 1300 tomorrow
18:49:22 <LindaG> 👍
18:50:04 <LindaG> Mine is just about 24hrs away
18:50:27 <Cooper> OMG, this is the 3rd time that I have ran my numbers, adn each time I get a different number.
18:50:43 <LindaG> Cooper, 😃
18:50:44 <Cooper> first 1359, next 1401, and now 1713
18:50:58 <JarnoO> I'm going with 10 April 2020 @ 1541±12h
18:51:04 <Cooper> I am just gonna average them, and give up trying to get the same number twice.
18:51:07 <ynpvisitor90> But your brain is working?
18:51:24 <Cooper> yup
18:51:28 <ynpvisitor90> Well, enjoy the sunny evening.
18:51:29 <LindaG> Cooper, blame it on the concussion
18:51:34 <JarnoO> cya #90
18:51:37 <Cooper> I just put the data into my calculator, and it runs the numbers
18:51:41 <Cooper> Bye 90
18:52:27 <Cooper> so 1601, ok, that is the number I sent to Lori
18:52:28 <Kat> I'm going with 4/10 at 2330 +/- 4 hours
18:52:34 <Cooper> so I am gonna sit with that number
18:53:54 <JarnoO> Cooper, the 1359 and 1401 predictions may be blamed on floating-point imprecisions. Dumbed down this means that if you calculate with long numbers after the decimal, the calculator can't handle them as consistent as a human would, meaning you get a different number every time
18:55:39 <JarnoO> as for the 1713 prediction - did you add an extra number accidentally?
18:55:57 <Cooper> well I mean 1559 and 1601**
18:56:09 <Cooper> I frogot to switch to Military time, and instead just added a one at the frong :P
18:56:14 <Cooper> front**
18:57:06 <Cooper> but I sent 1601 to LoriS, and I do not want to email here again that it went for 1713 because of my Calculator. So I am going with...
18:57:33 <Cooper> 1601 April 10th 2020, +/- Whatver number by random number generator spits out :P
18:58:03 <Cooper> +/- 56 Hours it is :P
18:59:23 <LindaG> Cooper, that's silly
18:59:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Interesting picture of the loop Linda:
19:00:34 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, that is very cool
19:01:11 <Cooper> usually I trow down a card, and use the number(if it is face or ace it is a 10), and then multiply it by one if it is a clover, two if it is a hear, 3 if it is a diamond, and 4 if it is a spade.
19:01:16 <LindaG> I love old pictures, bet you'd love to have some of those trains now
19:01:58 <LindaG> Cooper, take a look at pic Kevin shared
19:02:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They are basically what my friend owns but in standard gauge.
19:03:17 <Cooper> pic, where?
19:03:30 <Kat> Bison leaving for the evenong
19:03:54 <LindaG> Cooper, Look above there is a link
19:03:59 <Cooper> oh, missed that
19:04:41 <Cooper> oh, pretty, always love old photos that hsow perspective, and how it was back then.
19:04:44 <Kevin L™ 🌵> This is what they would of looked like in color. Pretty ornate with polished brass.
19:05:24 <LindaG> They had style back then
19:05:55 <LindaG> OF
19:07:41 <LindaG> Odd OF keeps stopping, think something is wrong 😉
19:07:51 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Virginia has a really interesting history for such a short railroad.
19:08:04 <Cooper> yeah, Linda, back then you were like what -30, 40? :P I mean that picture must have been taken in the early nineteen hundreds.
19:08:11 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Virginia & Truckee
19:09:32 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, never heard of it
19:09:58 <LindaG> Cooper, 😋
19:11:07 <Kat> Kevin L™ 🌵, I have heard of Virginia and Truckee.
19:11:53 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They have a section restored and running between Virginia City and Cartoon City.
19:12:07 <Kat> I used to live in Staunton Virginia - old RR station there. Historic
19:13:17 <JarnoO> Lion
19:13:40 <Kat> :lion:
19:13:47 <JarnoO> good to see it adhered to my 10m window :)
19:14:07 <Cooper> you are the Lion king.
19:14:53 <Kat> :)
19:15:16 <JarnoO> let's not go so far, Cooper
19:16:49 <JarnoO> and done
19:17:17 <Kat> :)
19:17:44 <Cooper> wait a minute, I just got up, and grabed osmething from the freezer and I did not bang or hurt anything!
19:18:02 <LindaG> Cooper, you are slippin
19:18:48 <Kat> :daisy:
19:19:03 <LindaG> Daisy
19:19:33 <JarnoO> 3m25s for Lion. Next one @ 2017±5m provided the series continues
19:19:44 <LindaG> JarnoO, churn cooled down, no more steam
19:20:01 <JarnoO> unfortunate
19:20:22 <JarnoO> 4h07m double interval
19:20:30 <Kat> :)
19:21:24 <Kat> OT ie
19:22:05 <LindaG> Uh I'm wrong, little bit of steam by churn
19:25:10 <ynpvisitor98> Would luv to see Oblong in this light...
19:25:42 <Kat> Me too!
19:27:13 <ynpvisitor98> Now if it would only erupt!
19:27:27 <Cooper> Grand due any minute
19:27:32 <LindaG> So what is behind that tree right below OT?
19:27:48 <Cooper> Spasmodic???
19:28:28 <LindaG> Thre top of the tree almost touches OT something always steams behind top of tree
19:28:28 <ynpvisitor23> Right below OT is "Twilight" pool
19:28:43 <LindaG> ynpvisitor23, thanks
19:28:47 <Cooper> what tree?
19:29:29 <Cooper> like when my brother says, "oh look, Bald Eagle in that tree" when you are on a lake, in a Kayak, surrounded by a forest.
19:29:38 <LindaG> Cooper, look at old tardy the top of a tree is right below it
19:30:05 <Cooper> Twilight or Crystal Pool/Spring
19:30:16 <Cooper> Linda, you like Birding right?
19:30:25 <LindaG> Cooper, yes
19:30:33 <Cooper> do you like seeing Bald Ealges?
19:30:37 <Cooper> Eagles**
19:30:49 <Kat> Twilight Cooper
19:30:57 <LindaG> Cooper, of course
19:31:18 <Cooper> do you like seeing a Pair of bald eagles, flying over water, sometimes hunting,
19:31:21 <LindaG> We have a lot here
19:31:30 <Cooper> "playing" with eachother, and babies?
19:32:04 <Cooper> and, do you like hiking, like 4 or 5 miles, on a suny warm day, in the mountains, along a lake?
19:32:07 <Kat> Bulger
19:32:59 <Kat> Nice size Bulger
19:33:09 <Cooper> because if you do, and you ever come to CO, I have a place for you :)
19:33:50 <LindaG> Cooper, 😊 I've been to rocky mtn national park, thztnwas nice
19:33:59 <Cooper> climb longs peak??
19:34:18 <LindaG> Cooper, no
19:34:38 <Cooper> and did you get attacked by the hot pink gorilla :P
19:35:28 <LindaG> Cooper, um, no.
19:36:36 <Cooper> OK, it is a long lost Coloradan joke that there are rabid pink gorillas running around in the wild. The Ocean has Giant Squids, and Megs. Nepal has sasquaches, and Colorado has the hot pink gorilla.
19:37:12 <Cooper> but, bbl.
19:37:45 <LindaG> And the pine barrens has the jersey devil
19:38:34 <LindaG> Grand
19:38:36 <Kat> Grand
19:40:45 <LindaG> Riverside
19:40:50 <JarnoO> Rioverside
19:45:52 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I like bald eagles. I can relate to them
19:46:05 <Kat> hahahaKevin L™ 🌵,
19:46:05 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, 😃
19:46:53 <LindaG> Hello lori hello
19:47:02 <Lori S> Hello Linda Hello
19:47:06 <Kat> Hi Lori
19:47:17 <Lori S> Echinus seems to have altered its pattern
19:47:19 <LindaG> Lori S, Just in time to make an SB prediction
19:47:23 <Lori S> Hi kat
19:47:56 <Lori S> Prior to the temp log updates, I said tonight somtime
19:48:18 <Kat> 1 burst on Grand
19:49:22 <Kat> Nice OT
19:53:30 <Lori S> LindaG, seems to be a cahnge in pattern on Echinus today
19:54:12 <LindaG> How has it changed?
19:54:32 <LindaG> I haven't really been looking at it
19:55:29 <Lori S> It has had this regular pattern that repeats about every day and a half
19:55:41 <Lori S> that chnaed about 6 am today
19:57:06 <Lori S> Constant changed about the same time
19:57:13 <JarnoO> well... here goes nothing. I've posted the article. Hopefully it makes it through the reviewing process. Fingers crossed
19:57:32 <Lori S> and Porkchop
19:57:39 <JarnoO> Echinus' and Constant's change may be related to ambient temperature changes rather than a changed cyclical pattern
19:57:42 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is up Jarno
19:57:55 <JarnoO> it is? I can't see it :P
19:58:07 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Just came on mine.
19:58:19 <LindaG> Lori S, I see it, but what does it mean 😉
19:58:24 <Lori S> Lori S, perhaps
19:58:31 <JarnoO> good. Enjoy the read. I'm off to get some sleep. Enjoy Dome and Lion
19:58:38 <Lori S> Lori S, perhaps
19:58:54 <Lori S> JarnoO, perhaps
19:59:05 <Lori S> 3rd times the charm lol
19:59:12 <LindaG> Lori S, lol
19:59:44 <Lori S> LindaG, and I'm not sure. If not ambient temp, then well, I refuse to say it
20:00:53 <Kat> Bye Jarno
20:01:26 <LindaG> JarnoO, night
20:01:54 <LindaG> Lori S, did they change before last eruption?
20:02:56 <Lori S> no
20:03:08 <Lori S> I hope jarno is correct
20:04:36 <LindaG> Time will tell
20:05:08 <Lori S> Tantalus also had a temp increase starting at 6 am. Waiting to hear from someone with an educated opinion :)
20:06:49 <Lori S> But, yes, time will ell :)
20:08:13 <LindaGt> Had to reboot
20:09:10 <Lori S> lc ie
20:09:33 <Kat> :)
20:10:30 <Cooper> LORI! Hello.
20:10:41 <Lori S> Hi Cooper
20:10:58 <Cooper> got your email. PM me while I look
20:11:33 <Cooper> I may be a bit frazzled, gave myself a minor concussion today
20:11:51 <Lori S> AGAIN?
20:12:40 <Cooper> last one was almost a year ago I think, that thing in August was just a really bad bruse of the skull(but not the brain)
20:15:35 <Lori S> did this one knock some sense into you? :p
20:15:53 <Cooper> well, it may have. But I did not get any marbles back
20:16:03 <Cooper> last time I counted, I still have 2.
20:17:37 <Lori S> 2 is better than 1
20:19:59 <Cooper> Lori, you want one? I heard you owe 3 marbles :p
20:20:04 <Cooper> Jarno, Nice article
20:20:46 <Lori S> Cooper, owe who?
20:21:38 <Cooper> IDK, I frogot. Must be the concussion
20:25:09 <LindaGt> Goodnight all, sweet SB dreams
20:25:20 <Cooper> bye Linda
20:25:36 <Kat> Bye Linda
20:26:22 <Lori S> Night Linda. I'm sure It'll wake me when it goes ;)
20:27:03 <LindaGt> 😊👋
20:30:15 <Kat> I'm headed out too...I'll leave it on Nighttime OF for now Night all
20:30:35 <Lori S> night Kat
20:31:36 <Kat> OF 2031
20:32:02 <Cooper> Bye Kat
20:35:37 <Kat> OK, now goodnight!
20:36:03 <Lori S> thx for moving it!
20:36:10 <Lori S> night
20:36:25 <Cooper> bye Kat
20:39:36 <KevinS> Lori S, That echinus change is not ambient temps. And not that unusual. SB or a false start will still likely happen tomorrow. or soon therafter.
20:40:14 <Cooper> before I say anything fishy is going on, I want to see Steamboat not go in the next 2 days
20:40:46 <KevinS> In fact I liked what I saw better today than yesterday. Today was more basin wide. All from below in my opinion.
20:41:09 <Cooper> we need people back on the ground :)
20:41:19 <Lori S> KevinS, i tend to agree but also agree with Cooper
20:41:40 <KevinS> SB could go anytime. Nothing I see to slow it down yet.
20:41:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> How are you doing Kevin?
20:42:06 <KevinS> Doing better. Thanks
20:42:26 <Lori S> KevinS, were you ill?
20:42:44 <Cooper> Kevin, thanks for that recipie, now that I have time I will make it tommorow :) We also got out Costco order yestarday, so it is out of quarantine :)
20:42:50 <KevinS> I will have a PET scan Tuesday to see how much the cancer has spread.
20:43:08 <Cooper> where did it start, if you dont mind me asking
20:43:31 <Lori S> KevinS, oh my I didnt know
20:43:34 <KevinS> It is in the trransition zone between the throat and stomach.
20:44:05 <KevinS> We were shocked Lori. Did not expect that at 49
20:44:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Well you are in my thoughts and prayers.
20:44:37 <Cooper> oh right, is was esophageal, which luckily tends to be very successful/easy to treat :) But my thoughts and prayers are with you.
20:44:38 <KevinS> Prayers are always welcomed! Thank you
20:45:05 <Cooper> 49!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, I thought you were 69, you are still young!
20:45:19 <Cooper> makes me a lot less worried.
20:45:42 <KevinS> Cooper, True if not spread throughout. Which we think it is not.
20:46:04 <Lori S> KevinS, sorry you have to be in a hospital environment right now too
20:46:08 <Cooper> well, I hope it has not spread.
20:48:03 <KevinS> They want the surgery to be either Columbia, MO or Dallas, TX. Both states are on lock down
20:49:14 <Lori S> eek
20:49:28 <Cooper> hmm
20:53:14 <Lori S> Well, KevinS, that just sucks. I will pray for ya
20:53:58 <Lori S> :(
20:54:14 <Cooper> we all will
20:54:18 <Lori S> I'm headed out. Have a peaceful night all
20:54:26 <Cooper> bye Lori, enjoy
20:54:37 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Night
20:55:02 <KevinS> Lori S, night
21:10:15 <Cooper> goodnight from me too
21:10:29 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Night