Showing logs for date: 2020-06-08
04:34:24 <ynpvisitor4> Lion ie
04:37:17 <ynpvisitor91> Beautiful!
04:48:58 <Jumpin Jack Fla> Hi Joe :)
04:50:03 <ynpvisitor102> Hi Kat
04:50:25 <ynpvisitor81> hey Kat and Joe
04:50:31 <Jumpin Jack Fla> :) Hope you are well!
04:50:57 <ynpvisitor81> we're all anonymous
04:50:58 <ynpvisitor102> Grand is very close
04:51:01 <ynpvisitor81> except Kat
04:51:37 <Kat 😎> Hahaha - hate anonymous! I like knowing who I'm talking to...
04:51:52 <ynpvisitor81> Joe, are you going in the park this week?
04:52:51 <ynpvisitor102> OF is at 6h 47 so may be a bit
04:54:24 <Kat 😎> Did we miss some?
04:54:31 <ynpvisitor102> Have a few appts. this week so probably no trip this week
04:54:57 <CraigC> bummer
04:56:00 <ynpvisitor102> I did not swing the cam looking for OF did not want to fall asleep with cam on OF :)
04:56:10 <Kat 😎> I'll be headed to the Smokey Mtns next month - then Shenandoah and then YNP in September....thats the plan!
04:56:20 <Kat 😎> No problem Joe
04:57:03 <CraigC> Kat 😎, are you going to be on the road the whole time?
04:57:41 <ynpvisitor102> sounds like a nice trip, I did those many years ago from Fla.
04:58:49 <ynpvisitor102> Well since we have people watching, I'll go make breakfast coffee.
04:58:50 <Kat 😎> Yep - but I'm thinking about getting a wireless hotspot thing from Verizon! Happy to do my shifts if I can find a way to do it! Want to help you too!
04:59:41 <Kat 😎> I think there's going to be a lot of camops out.. :)
05:00:20 <CraigC> yeah, but Old Faithful is a good scene for the YNP webcam people
05:00:37 <CraigC> dashboard gazers wont like it
05:00:47 <Kat 😎> I will be home in between my trip on the East and YNP
05:01:27 <ynpvisitor102> I'll cover what I can but won't be scanning much
05:01:30 <Kat 😎> Oh well - we're volunteers....OF is pretty LOL
05:02:15 <CraigC> ynpvisitor102, I hope you make more trips in whenever you can
05:02:53 <Kat 😎> We know Joe you are always willing to help! Take care of you first - you always do so much!
05:03:08 <Joe> thanks Craig
05:03:28 <Joe> and Kat
05:03:45 <Kat 😎> Grotto?
05:03:46 <CraigC> I've got anxiety about hitting the road tomorrow, but camping in the house all the time is killing me
05:04:06 <Joe> Yes Grotto
05:04:55 <Kat 😎> Hahaha - you have a great trailer, i just bought a new Kelty tent!!
05:05:15 <CraigC> my gf wants to just be gone for a long time and cruise all over.... but I worry about being too far away if either of us gets sick
05:05:39 <CraigC> Kelty's are cool
05:05:50 <CraigC> I still use my Quattros
05:07:14 <Kat 😎> CraigC, you'll be fine. Outdoors is great, masks when going to stores restaurants etc. Hand washing/sanitizers know the drill and you're younger than me!
05:07:54 <CraigC> no way to resaurants
05:08:26 <Kat 😎> I only do take out... camping I can cook!
05:08:53 <CraigC> I am hitting walmart at 7, guerilla warfare in and out
05:14:14 <LindaG> Hey morning
05:14:27 <CraigC> hey Linda
05:14:38 <LindaG> Hey how goods to see you,
05:14:46 <LindaG> Still can't type
05:14:51 <CraigC> ;)
05:14:55 <LindaG> Hey joe*
05:14:57 <CC> Good morning everyone
05:15:03 <CraigC> hey CC
05:15:14 <CraigC> it's camop meet
05:15:15 <CC> Hi Craig..ready to travel
05:15:19 <LindaG> CraigC, hi
05:15:31 <CraigC> CC, kinda.... nervous
05:15:31 <Kat 😎> Bought my dog an awesome cot that has a cover when she's outside! Hoping she will do well camping.
05:15:43 <CC> Hi Kat
05:15:48 <LindaG> Kat 😎, ☺
05:15:59 <CraigC> Kat 😎, sounds fun, take pics
05:16:03 <CC> Kat are you taking the cam early
05:16:29 <Joe> Daisy any time
05:16:33 <CC> I was going to put it on OF a 6MT if not
05:17:10 <Kat 😎> Good morning all!
05:17:15 <CraigC> if only there were some camops here this morning
05:17:30 <Kat 😎> Hahahaha
05:17:38 <Ryan> Morning all. Looking back through archives we should be very careful on calling Steamboat from YNR. Many eruptions are not even visible. And Tantalus spikes need tight scrutiny to be the clincher. Steamboat spikes follow a pretty consistent trend on Tantlus but typically you need to look at the numerical data to see it.
05:17:51 <CC> morning Ryan
05:18:23 <Ryan> Without YNM and the YVO logger we have been almost totally crippled on remote observations of Steamboat. I am very happy this happened after people started showing back up.
05:18:26 <Ryan> Morning, CC!
05:18:57 <Kat 😎> It's 5 am in YNP - 7 AM on the East can we hold off on the ....
05:19:23 <CraigC> wine?
05:19:24 <Ryan> It's my morning thought to defuse some tensions between in basin and webcam gazers, Kat.
05:19:33 <Ryan> "/ignore" is your friend.
05:19:36 <CraigC> whiskey?
05:19:51 <Ryan> I had some kick ass non-alcoholic IPA
05:20:34 <ynpvisitor45> talking about geysers anytime is fine
05:20:38 <Joe> Dasy 0518
05:20:42 <Ryan> Athletic Brewing makes some. They are based out of Connecticut. Ordered on Amazon. It's the best NA beer I have ever had.
05:21:44 <CC> boy is m stream lagging
05:21:51 <CC> my
05:21:58 <CraigC> choppy on mine
05:22:01 <Ryan> My stream is a static haha
05:22:35 <CraigC> bulger ie
05:23:02 <Joe> Grand is at 6h43 min another long interval
05:25:54 <Ryan> Interesting to see another SB-like YNR trace had another spike on Tantalus at 1030 yesterday. That seismo must be really sensitive to weather events...
05:26:27 <Joe> the static is iewable now
05:26:50 <CC1> sort of
05:27:41 <CraigC> Joe, what is your weather like? We got hit hard yesterday, good hail storm
05:27:41 <Ryan> It is light enough to see fake news Dome eruptions lol
05:30:44 <ynpvisitor45> Ryan, can User34 stay a few days? (do you know)
05:31:27 <Joe> Craig, nice now but tha strong thunderstorms last night
05:31:42 <CraigC> Joe, snow?
05:32:02 <Lori S> Morning all. Flaked on Norris due to pending flakes.
05:32:11 <CraigC> hey Lori
05:32:19 <Kat 😎> Lori S, morning
05:32:21 <Ryan> 45, I do not know. I know that User34 and another one will be at Norris today.
05:32:27 <Ryan> I don't know about any other days.
05:32:32 <Lori S> Looks nasty to the east.
05:32:32 <ynpvisitor18> Lori S, hi
05:32:32 <Joe> No Snow here
05:32:45 <CraigC> Joe, :thumbsup:
05:32:50 <ynpvisitor45> Ryan, hope it cooperates for them!
05:33:09 <Joe> cam is back
05:33:17 <Ryan> Me too, one of them sure deserves it at this point.
05:33:31 <Lori S> Hello 18 whomever you are
05:33:50 <Ryan> Morning fellow dark coffee lover
05:33:51 <ynpvisitor18> Lori S, oh sorry its linda
05:34:27 <Lori S> Oh, hi Linda :)
05:34:36 <CC1> What is going on with the stream this morning???
05:34:37 <ynpvisitor18> 😊
05:34:38 <Lori S> Hi Ryan
05:34:41 <ynpvisitor45> Ryan, agreed. But a longer interval won't surprise me
05:34:51 <Kat 😎> bbs
05:35:00 <Lori S> Hi byecKay
05:35:06 <Lori S> KAT
05:35:07 <Ryan> I have not seen any ntoes on it lately so I have no clue what it is currently doing.
05:35:16 <Ryan> and YVO is down.
05:35:29 <ynpvisitor45> 1 note yesterday
05:35:36 <Lori S> Switching to computer. Brb
05:35:50 <Ryan> I see that now. Didnt see that last night when i looked
05:36:31 <ynpvisitor45> :thumbsup:
05:36:40 <Ryan> Huh, activity seems like it could at least do it.
05:37:25 <ynpvisitor45> or, not. :)
05:37:42 <Ryan> could =/= will haha
05:41:24 <LoriS> Now I can see... :)
05:41:34 <Kat 😎> :)
05:41:55 <LoriS> Dark coffee...think I'll brew some.
05:42:20 <Ryan> I had two great cups this morning.
05:42:52 <LoriS> I am out of Hazelnut Cream...Obsidian it is
05:43:14 <Joe> cam down
05:43:24 <CC> I just got on
05:43:59 <Joe> back for me
05:44:32 <CC> I will take it now if you want
05:44:55 <LindaGt> Mine moves every once in a while
05:45:00 <Joe> I thought you had it
05:45:04 <CC> no
05:45:09 <CC> but I can
05:45:33 <LindaGt> Ghosts?
05:45:37 <Joe> someone has been moving it
05:45:42 <CC> not me
05:45:52 <LindaGt> Not me
05:45:59 <Kat 😎> It's me Joe and CC
05:45:59 <CraigC> not I, said the rooster
05:46:01 <LindaGt> Maybe kat?
05:46:29 <CC> I am going to get my phone and I will take it in a minute
05:46:30 <LindaGt> CraigC, are u all packed?
05:46:52 <CraigC> LindaGt, nope.... going to be a busy day torday
05:46:55 <CraigC> tpoday
05:47:05 <CraigC> the day before tomorrow
05:47:06 <Joe> ah! Kat has it
05:47:11 <Kat 😎> Someone else can take for awhile - I have to take the dog out etc...
05:47:14 <ynpvisitor45> twoday
05:47:14 <CC> got it
05:48:26 <Kat 😎> OK
05:50:05 <Joe> Grand ie
05:50:16 <CC> Grand Ie
05:52:46 <Joe> raining in West on static
05:53:36 <LindaGt> North looks stormy too
05:54:14 <Joe> cam back
05:54:14 <Lori S> Light snow in West
05:54:45 <Lori S> CraigC, where ya goin?
05:58:41 <LindaGt> Lori S, what time korben arriving YNP?
06:02:04 <Lori S> LindaGt, I think he said 11? But snow may change that I supose
06:02:56 <LindaGt> Lori S, probably, what's the forecast by you?
06:04:19 <Lori S> LindaGt, weathr? or SB?
06:04:51 <LindaGt> 😊both
06:05:18 <LindaGt> I meant weather but SB is good
06:06:11 <Lori S> Well, snow is forecast for ere this morning. And it is currently snowing. :)
06:06:51 <Lori S> I think SB has a good chance today based on yesterday's report and Ryan's average of last 5 eruptions
06:06:51 <LindaGt> Lori S, a lot or a dusting?
06:07:19 <Lori S> Or SB will pause and we will wait another 30 or so hours
06:07:25 <LindaGt> Lori S, are u going over there?
06:08:04 <Lori S> Dusting, stopped for now but clouds look pregnant
06:08:40 <Lori S> I planned to leave here at 0430 to go in. Got truck loaded up, stared to head to gate and jad low oil
06:08:50 <Lori S> oh my
06:09:03 <Lori S> started & Saw low oil
06:09:18 <LindaGt> Bummer
06:09:34 <Lori S> No place to get oil at 0430 so came back home then it started snowing so I am staying put
06:10:06 <LindaGt> 👍
06:10:18 <Lori S> Sorry Korben, but I adulted this morning
06:10:43 <Lori S> If I was a betting person and I am, I bet SB will go today
06:11:39 <Lori S> Hope, like usual I am wrong thou
06:12:03 <Ryan> I actually hgope youre right, Lori
06:12:20 <Lori S> Ryan, because?
06:12:22 <Ryan> I feel bad you missed the last one. Will is supposed to be there today. He still hasntr seen it.
06:12:36 <Lori S> Whoa, really?
06:12:56 <Ryan> Yeah. He has also seen two or three false starts. One where we even called the start.
06:13:07 <CC> Ryan...what is Will doing this summer
06:13:16 <Lori S> I knew I'd miss the last one. Just like I know I will probably miss this one.
06:13:16 <Ryan> School
06:13:21 <CC> oh
06:13:32 <Ryan> Hey, you have better chances than I do ;)
06:13:44 <CC> he should be almost done by now
06:13:45 <Lori S> Well, yes. :)
06:14:06 <Lori S> BRB
06:14:10 <Lori S> coffe ready
06:14:15 <Ryan> So, yeah, Lori. My fingers are crossed it goes today. I cant think of anyone else I want so badly to experience it
06:15:44 <Ryan> Heck, given YNR, that could be it now lol
06:19:11 <Ryan> Just grabbed my third and final dark cup of the day
06:19:37 <CC> OF
06:21:36 <CC> short
06:22:03 <KorbenC (Dubois> Plan to leave here in about 45 mins to get into the park
06:22:43 <Kat> HYes CC
06:22:44 <CC> Kat do you want to take cam?
06:22:51 <Kat> Yes*
06:23:03 <CC> cam is yours
06:23:27 <Kat> No - feeding dog and making bed!
06:23:41 <CC> okay I will stay on until your shift
06:23:41 <LindaGt> KorbenC (Dubois), hi
06:24:01 <KorbenC (Dubois> LindaGt, hi
06:24:26 <KorbenC (Dubois> Hopefully I get in the south gate before they close it
06:24:27 <LindaGt> KorbenC (Dubois), excited?
06:24:58 <LindaGt> CC, I can take if you have things to do
06:25:11 <KorbenC (Dubois> No Linda, Korben the geyser snob is totally not excited:p yes, I am excited to see my anemones
06:25:15 <Ryan> Are you going directly to Norris?
06:25:27 <LindaGt> KorbenC (Dubois), 😋
06:25:31 <CraigC> cooper, you're missing one right now
06:25:37 <KorbenC (Dubois> Ryan, should i?
06:26:01 <CC> No Problem I just thought Kat was back because she posted OF
06:26:09 <LindaGt> CC, ok
06:26:21 <Ryan> Note from yesterday seems good. It is where I would be today
06:26:39 <KorbenC (Dubois> Grr. I want to head to UGB
06:26:54 <KorbenC (Dubois> but I don't want to miss SB
06:27:15 <Lori S> KorbenC (Dubois), hey. I flaked out on Norris this morning. Sorry
06:27:23 <KorbenC (Dubois> Ryan, what are the odds it goes before 8pm today?
06:27:30 <KorbenC (Dubois> Lori S, hi,np
06:27:51 <Ryan> Oh no, I aint getting blamed for you making the wrong choice haha
06:28:03 <Lori S> KorbenC (Dubois), I agree SB could go today. Or tomorrow
06:28:11 <KorbenC (Dubois> Lol, no blaming, but what are the odds?
06:28:32 <Ryan> We are early in my window.
06:28:43 <KorbenC (Dubois> So if I head straight to Norris and wait for 12 hours, what are my odds?
06:28:46 <Lori S> KorbenC (Dubois), Ryan's 5 day average puts it late today early tomorrow I think.
06:29:27 <Lori S> I'd put the odds at 50/50
06:29:38 <Ryan> My window is 3.49d to 7.07d with the middle at 5.3d. We are at 4.5 now.
06:29:46 <Lori S> based purely on speculation thou
06:29:50 <Ryan> Yesterday there was a minor that I guess was very large.
06:29:52 <KorbenC (Dubois> Lori S, should I go to Norris today?
06:30:16 <Ryan> Cooper, we cant make that decision.
06:30:22 <ynpvisitor78> KC go directly to Norris
06:30:28 <Lori S> KorbenC (Dubois), I don't know. I haven't been there since right before 98
06:30:29 <Ryan> If I was in the park, I would be at Norris today
06:30:46 <Lori S> Ryan, me too
06:31:04 <Lori S> But, there is sure a chance it won't go KorbenC (Dubois)
06:31:10 <KorbenC (Dubois> Grr, I will think about going to Norris directly
06:31:53 <Ryan> This is why we don't say things that are subjective. You need to make your own choice.
06:32:29 <CraigC> KorbenC (Dubois), when is your prediction for it to erupt
06:32:42 <Lori S> KorbenC (Dubois), if 6 today and 6 tomorrow is an option, I'd do that
06:32:45 <KorbenC (Dubois> Ok, we are going to Norris to check it out and will make a decision from there
06:33:08 <KorbenC (Dubois> CraigC, when I am not there
06:33:15 <ynpvisitor24> Go to Norris, if SB does not happen your Dad will let you go back until it happens
06:33:16 <CraigC> ;)
06:33:30 <Lori S> KorbenC (Dubois), Excellent prediction. SB agrees
06:33:45 <Ryan> Welcome to real life gazing.
06:33:53 <Lori S> Ryan, :)
06:33:58 <Ryan> I have my own predictions, but I'd be stupid not to be there as much as I can be.
06:34:15 <KorbenC (Dubois> Well, time to haul but to norris
06:34:19 <Lori S> Ryan, you're making me feel guilty ;)
06:34:36 <Ryan> It is fun to play with numbers, but at the end of the day your odds are directly proportional to how much time you spend there.
06:34:37 <Lori S> KorbenC (Dubois), safely...
06:34:45 <Ryan> I make myself feel guilty...
06:35:17 <LindaGt> KorbenC (Dubois), good luck geyser snob
06:35:20 <CraigC> I predict it will erupt in an hour
06:35:21 <Lori S> Ryan, I disagree about the time spent thing
06:35:55 <Ryan> Luck and odds dont always agree, I'll admit.,
06:35:59 <Lori S> Maybe time spent studying it...not necessarily all in the basin
06:36:52 <Ryan> No I mean just sitting there. The more youre at Norris the higher your odds are of seeing it... case in point, my odds of seeing this eruption are 0:infinity.
06:37:00 <Lori S> I may just have to head in if the weather clears and the truck cooperates
06:37:36 <Lori S> But Norris mid-day is my leasts favorite place to be
06:37:55 <Lori S> Ryan, well, that is true
06:38:27 <CraigC> seems to frigid to want to sit at a platform all day today
06:38:30 <CraigC> too
06:38:41 <Lori S> CraigC, yes, yes it does
06:38:57 <Ryan> This reminds me of when I was there last time with will.
06:39:06 <Ryan> Snow and heavy wind and 35 for hours.
06:39:16 <Lori S> I have a quote from Steve E on my fb that says something similar but about Bee
06:39:21 <CraigC> if I were in the park today, I would probably be driving around looking for bears
06:39:29 <Ryan> Had an enormous minor eruption at 1100 and then that was it.
06:40:01 <Lori S> Let us all remember that SB loves the bad weather :)
06:40:03 <Ryan> All I did was shiver under a blanket for 11 hours.
06:40:10 <CraigC> maybe hanging around elk park
06:40:54 <Lori S> CraigC, there ya go. Just before I decided to stay home, I considered the overlook north of the basin from my warm truck
06:41:21 <Lori S> But thought the steam would block any view
06:41:55 <Ryan> You'd make it to SB in time if you saw the start from the overlook
06:42:57 <Lori S> Ryan, Yeah, but I'd probably stay at the OL. Haven't seen it from that view yet. (Being flippant)
06:43:21 <Ryan> Must be nice to have that option ;)
06:43:44 <Ryan> I'd still be running back and forth from decker to emerald and back for the entire water phase.
06:44:11 <Lori S> Ryan, I just recall my start from Elk Park. Should have stayed there. By he time I got to the paltform it was going into steam
06:44:41 <Ryan> This is why you run through the trees and ask for forgiveness later
06:45:14 <Lori S> Ryan, lol I should have!
06:45:29 <Ryan> It would be very hard for me not to.
06:45:40 <Lori S> Just pakred the truck half in the road on the curve and ran
06:45:53 <Ryan> My options would be to run through the trees or plow over people past emerald.
06:46:17 <Lori S> Ryan, honestly, the view from Elk Park was spectacular
06:46:51 <Lori S> Gave it perspective as to size
06:47:18 <Ryan> Norris Overlook would have to be my preference for that. Or Gibbon Hill if you could be atop it.
06:48:01 <Lori S> And by overlook, I actually mean the pullout on the right before you get to the labeled overlook
06:48:16 <Ryan> Followed by Monument. My issue with Elk Park is the background. All sky. The others would give you the ground as backdrop and make perspective even better (like watching OF from Observation Point, something I have yet to do)/
06:48:19 <Lori S> on the uphill straight part
06:49:02 <Ryan> OK, I know where you mean
06:49:02 <Lori S> Ryan, you haven't seen OF from Obs Point? Yes, you need to do that
06:49:23 <Ryan> I think of everything in terms of photographic potential and gray on gray is pretty crappy lol
06:49:41 <Ryan> Suzannes video of the 5/31 eruption is un-freaking-believable.
06:49:51 <Ryan> have you seen it?
06:49:52 <Lori S> Well, that Elk Park start had a dark clouds back drop so it was eerily cool
06:50:17 <Lori S> Ryan, No, where is it? I've been off grid a few days
06:50:20 <CC> can you post site ryan
06:50:48 <Ryan>
06:50:51 <Ryan> Enjoy
06:51:26 <CC> thanks Ryan
06:51:27 <Lori S> I kinda don't want to look. Was sad i could not be there.
06:51:38 <Lori S> But here goes
06:52:08 <Ryan> I think its fake
06:52:19 <Ryan> I think Suzzane did some wonderful CGI.
06:52:33 <Ryan> I mean come on. 0625 - when has anyone EVER Seen conditions like that at 625!?
06:53:14 <Lori S> Ryan, I have. That is the SB I have dreamed of right there. I had to stop watching
06:53:45 <Lori S> Daybreak at SB with a clear sky, backlit by the sun. Ouchy
06:54:00 <Ryan> I have watched it several times and it does hurt
06:54:13 <Ryan> even though I have basically seen that, just not with quite the colors.
06:54:50 <Ryan>
06:54:53 <CC> Wow!
06:55:30 <Lori S> Nice photo Ryan!
06:56:14 <Ryan> Thanks, Lori. The backlighting for parts of it was pretty astounding. You can watch the pressure waves rocket up through the coplumn.
06:56:34 <Lori S> OK, I'm watching the video little by little. Like taking a bandaid off an oozing wound
06:56:56 <CC> video is amazinag
06:57:10 <CC> amazing
06:58:44 <Lori S> Oh no, sterrage view
06:58:48 <Lori S> steerage
06:59:26 <Lori S> wait, no, thats still the platform
07:01:04 <ynpvisitor12> Korben here, road conditions getting bad. Unless YNP is different, no Norris today
07:01:22 <Lori S> ynpvisitor12, now you see why I didn't go?
07:01:32 <ynpvisitor12> Lol, yup..
07:01:44 <CC> Kat is here so I'll see you tomorrow
07:02:00 <Kat> Good morning all Back, CC have cam
07:02:03 <Lori S> Bye CC
07:02:15 <ynpvisitor12> Just gonna try to get to the UGB with all limbs infact
07:02:27 <Lori S> ynpvisitor12, Excellent plan
07:02:28 <Kat> Talk later today CC
07:02:46 <Lori S> Hey Kevin
07:03:30 <ynpvisitor12> Hi Kevin
07:03:35 <ynpvisitor12> Kat, hi
07:03:54 <ynpvisitor12> See y'all from the other side of the can.
07:04:03 <Lori S> ynpvisitor12, know that I really tried...I did
07:04:14 <Kat> ynpvisitor12, Morning
07:04:19 <KevinS> Good morning everyone
07:04:26 <Lori S> ynpvisitor12, :thumbsup: wave from Bee :)
07:05:38 <Ryan> Lion
07:06:06 <Ryan> or not
07:06:13 <Kat> Not
07:06:15 <Lori S> ynpvisitor12, if it does go today, using the 5 day average, you have another chance at it
07:09:58 <Ryan> lion
07:10:03 <Ryan> is being a tease
07:10:13 <Kat> Not
07:10:32 <Ryan> accidentally hit enter, kat
07:10:46 <Kat> :)
07:11:47 <LindaGt> KevinS, hi
07:12:41 <Kat> KevinS, hi!
07:14:51 <LindaGt> Real nice depression eruption past night
07:15:50 <Ryan> wonder if lion is a one and done
07:16:48 <Kat> OF 0715
07:16:50 <LindaGt> Morning dave
07:17:03 <Lori S> Howdy Dave
07:19:59 <Kat> Hi Dave
07:23:38 <Dave from B™> Morning everyone
07:24:01 <Kat> Hi
07:24:59 <Ryan> Morning Dave.
07:25:47 <Ryan> Boy I am gettiung old. I have bruising all over my thighs from the cave trip on Saturday.
07:26:01 <Ryan> The caves in Fayette County like to beat the crap out of you...
07:27:41 <Dave from B™> Ryan, you need to stop bumping into cave walls
07:28:15 <Ryan> I think the walls need to be fartehr apart.
07:28:22 <Ryan> And they dont listen to my hammer!
07:29:47 <Dave from B™> Maybe the holes are getting smaller
07:30:14 <Ryan> Now that YNR trace is one I would look at Tantalus for.
07:30:57 <Ryan> They are getting smaller, Dave lol
07:32:02 <Forestbewithyou> hello everyone
07:32:46 <Dave from B™> Morning Forest
07:34:03 <Forestbewithyou> Good Morning.
07:34:27 <Forestbewithyou> man beehive still hasn't gone yet
07:34:33 <Forestbewithyou> must be waiting for Korben
07:38:20 <Lori S> Forestbewithyou, :thumbsup:
07:44:08 <Kat> Bulger
07:51:21 <Lori S> Hello Kevin L
07:51:36 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Morning.
07:54:44 <LindaGt> Kevin L™ 🌵, morning
08:00:56 <Forestbewithyou> I have to hop off for a bit
08:04:25 <Mike J> As much as I hate to bring something like this up...Did everyone hear that the Fenn treasure was found?
08:04:29 <Mike J> Or is this old news.
08:04:48 <Dave from B™> I did hear that
08:05:10 <Mike J> I don't know where it was found, but Fenn verifies it. And it wasn't Yellowstone.
08:05:44 <Lori S> Yes, I heard. He better reveal the clue meanings or we are all going to revolt. (This is a joke.)
08:15:06 <Kat> Bulger
08:17:07 <Kat> major
08:20:08 <Kat> oriverside
08:20:16 <Kat> Riverside
08:24:17 <Kat> OT
08:25:36 <Kat> Here comes the snow!!
08:26:37 <Dave from B™> I wonder is OFI parking lot will have to be altered. Hot area is getting larger
08:26:41 <Dave from B™> if*
08:27:21 <Mike J> Now I really want to be there. Something about 110 temperatures makes snow look really inviting
08:28:17 <Kat> :) me too
08:28:35 <Dave from B™> It was great only seeing 1 bus in 2 days in the park
08:29:01 <Mike J> Dave that would really be great, particularly at this time of year.
08:30:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I would take 110° over snow anytime.
08:31:13 <Mike J> Agreed Kevin. I'm just looking for a nice change. Multiple days of 110, a couple of days of snow interspersed for varieties sake.
08:31:18 <Mike J> Your a desert rat like me.
08:32:41 <Mike J> (As opposed to a dessert rat...which so many of us are)
08:36:43 <Dave from B™> Did someone say dessert?
08:36:51 <CraigC> hey, I am back
08:36:53 <CraigC> hey Dave
08:36:57 <CraigC> hey Kevin
08:37:01 <CraigC> hey MikeJ
08:37:17 <Dave from B™> Where did you go?
08:37:32 <Dave from B™> Morning, CrC
08:37:46 <CraigC> walmart, and then about 20 trips into the trailer and back
08:38:03 <CraigC> waiting for my turn to use the washer and dryer
08:38:05 <Kat> That was quick
08:38:43 <CraigC> I always envisioned having a trailer would make it easy to just hook it up and hit the road
08:39:24 <Dave from B™> My wife and I were commenting yesterday how easy it is to [ack and unpack for camervan versus tent camping
08:39:58 <CraigC> I need to streamline, I guess
08:40:26 <Kat> I still like tent camping!
08:40:58 <CraigC> my gf is cleaner than I am.... she wants to sterlize the coffee maker, the water jugs.... name it
08:41:08 <Dave from B™> It's nice to have a place to stay dry and warm:)
08:41:30 <Dave from B™> CraigC, go by and lick everything she has cleaned:)
08:41:37 <CraigC> OMH
08:42:04 <Kat> CraigC, haha my kind of girl!
08:42:29 <CraigC> Kat, yeah, my family loves her more than me now
08:42:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I would be happy with the heat if this stinking wind would finally stop.
08:42:54 <Kat> See, you need to get in line! Hahah
08:43:26 <CraigC> hey Katie
08:44:03 <Dave from B™> haha CraigC
08:44:50 <Kat> Hi Katie
08:46:21 <CraigC> Dave from B™, I passed my ham license last week
08:46:36 <Mike J> kevin that's the joys of the Phoenix area over the Vegas area - we don't get your winds.
08:46:40 <CraigC> hardest easy test I have ever taken
08:46:53 <Dave from B™> Congrats!! when do you do the chicken test?
08:47:06 <CraigC> ;)
08:47:07 <Kat> What is a ham license?
08:47:16 <Dave from B™> License to make bacon
08:47:20 <CraigC> Kat, amateur radio
08:47:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Nice Craig.
08:47:31 <Kat> Excellent Craig
08:47:42 <CraigC> now I can use the baofeng in more ways
08:48:03 <Kat> Come on - I never get a straight answer here
08:48:08 <CraigC> it's like stepbrothers having bunk beds
08:48:27 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am not sure I even know how to turn mine on!
08:48:34 <Kat> more confused now!n haha
08:48:46 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, I have to watch youtube videos, then I forget it all the next day
08:49:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Baofeng = radio.
08:49:13 <Kat> CraigC, me to Craig
08:49:15 <CraigC> Kat, ham radio is the same as amateur radio..... being able to talk to people around the world
08:49:33 <Dave from B™> Sounds fun, CraigC. Here's a link to help you out.
08:49:40 <Kat> Ohhh, ok ham I get it tnow!
08:49:40 <Dave from B™>
08:50:01 <CraigC> Kat, here;
08:50:22 <CraigC> Dave from B™, LOL.... not CB
08:50:51 <Ryan> which level, Craig?
08:51:13 <CraigC> for the price, I might buy a couple more of them if I live thru this year
08:51:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Here you are Craig:
08:51:18 <Mike J> "What is ham radio?" Another question to make me feel incredibly old.
08:51:55 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, hahahaha, got it going in the background
08:53:13 <CraigC> thanks, good budddy
08:54:04 <Kevin L™ 🌵> This was my favorite:
08:54:46 <Kat> Kevin L™ 🌵, LOL
08:55:36 <CraigC> wow, I remember this song
08:56:19 <CraigC> it had to be 40 years ago last time I heard it
08:57:15 <Kat> Where's all out basin gazers? SB?
08:57:28 <CraigC> I'd be at Norris
08:57:33 <Ryan> Probably
08:58:32 <Kat> I'd be there too -can't wait!
08:58:53 <Dave from B™> Are all YNP seismos down? I see none
08:59:15 <Ryan(lunch)> YNR is the only working one
08:59:18 <CraigC> I see YNR, but it's useless ;)
08:59:40 <Ryan(lunch)> YNR is only good for puns and gag eruptions
08:59:53 <Kat> 0859 OF
09:01:00 <Lori S> Just had a brown out
09:02:32 <Dave from B™> CraigC, did you get a rash of **** about that?
09:02:59 <CraigC> Dave from B™, nope.... lots of messages :)
09:03:54 <Lori S> CraigC, Hear about that. I was off grid and when I got back, I saw the YNR & Tantalus and thought it had gone till I read elsewhere
09:04:00 <CraigC> massages would have been better
09:04:02 <Lori S> *heard
09:04:45 <Lori S> CraigC, :thumbsup:
09:05:16 <CraigC> maybe people gave me a break because I didn't spend any energy trying to convince anyone I was right ;)
09:05:51 <Kat> AB
09:06:49 <Lori S> CraigC, Who you talkin bout Willis?" LOL
09:07:34 <Dave from B™> haha
09:08:30 <Lori S> SB the great equalizer
09:09:28 <CraigC> maybe I would have found the Fenn treasure if Sb hadn't become active the year I retired and was going to go search
09:10:11 <CraigC> if it end up being around Cabin Creek, you all can laugh at me
09:10:12 <KevinS> CraigC, He will hide another one
09:10:18 <Lori S> CraigC, Hey, sometimes ya have to choose between obsessions
09:10:35 <CraigC> Lori S, yeah, and at least I scored on the Sb quest
09:10:49 <CraigC> KevinS, you think he will?
09:11:03 <Lori S> Better chance with SB i think, but rumor on fb here is it was near Quake Lake so...
09:11:20 <Dave from B™> It sounds like he was glad it was found
09:11:32 <CraigC> Cabin Creek matches near Quake Lake
09:11:40 <KevinS> CraigC, Could have wound up floating down a creek or bear bait too. But I doubt he hides another at his age. But a copy cat millionaire could.
09:11:44 <Lori S> CraigC, yes, yes it does
09:11:44 <CraigC> I bet Fenn got tired of all the emails
09:12:03 <Dave from B™> I wonder if he got flack from NPS
09:12:23 <Lori S> And being blasted for people going out and doing supid stuff trying to find it
09:12:27 <CraigC> Dave from B™, he fully deserved it for not declaring that the treasure was not in the park
09:12:49 <Kat> I still think it's all crap
09:13:17 <KevinS> He has lawsuits against him over people not being able to find it.
09:13:24 <CraigC> anyone that paid attention to what he said in the clues, would know that it isnt dangerous to retrieve...... Darwin got those fools
09:13:44 <Dave from B™> Typical overreaction
09:13:51 <Lori S> Personally, I think it was internet based. At least to find it if here was a physical box to find.
09:14:28 <KevinS> I looked up the max elevation. 10,200 feet. Why not just say 10,000.
09:14:40 <CraigC> my guess was all about him saying he hid is somewhere special to him..... so I read about his yonger days
09:15:12 <CraigC> all his good stories were around West Yellwstone
09:15:18 <Lori S> I think I read it was hidden where he wants to be laid to rest. So, revealing where may not be in his best interest.
09:15:25 <CraigC> Lori S, yes
09:16:11 <CraigC> I envision he had a place he liked to fish and take breaks where he had seclusion, and gorgeous scenery
09:16:37 <Lori S> So, anyone else see a connection or am I just overthinking... "Where Warm Waters halt" WWW.
09:16:40 <CraigC> not down some cliff on the grand canyon of the yellowstone LOL
09:17:04 <Lori S> CraigC, lol yep
09:17:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Craig, did you see that Athearn is going to be making frontrunner cars in N scale?
09:17:26 <Lori S> descended into a anyon over fragile rock in his 80's with ancer
09:17:30 <CraigC> or 5 miles up some mtn out of Gardiner
09:17:48 <Lori S> c c c ...yes my c key still works
09:18:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It just has an attitude problem Lori.
09:18:26 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, stop.... I cant buy any more train stuff :)
09:18:47 <CraigC> I need to sell what I have
09:18:49 <Lori S> Kevin L™ 🌵, Like its owner I guess :p
09:19:00 <Dave from B™> Art, if you are a number here, I did recon work for your Gardiner area boondocking spots
09:20:04 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I know what you mean Craig. Either a used train dealer or my Grandkids will be happy once I am gone.
09:20:35 <Dave from B™> Kevin, do you have a layour set up yet?
09:20:48 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, if I dont sell my stuff before I die, my daughter would probably just take it to the deseret industries
09:21:56 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, do you run n-scale?
09:22:15 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes
09:22:27 <CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, when will you be coming this direction
09:22:40 <CraigC> I'll give you odds and ends stuff
09:22:44 <CraigC> track etc
09:24:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I will be going through in about a week but it will be one of those 700 miles in a day trips. I will be coming back through in September.
09:24:37 <CraigC> yikes
09:24:48 <CraigC> to rexburg and back in one day?
09:26:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is just north of Idaho Falls. Up in a day and then back about 5 days later. This trip I will have a daughter and 4 grandkids in tow. The September one will be more relaxed.
09:27:02 <CraigC> :thumbsup:
09:27:41 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We are going to try for a day trip in the park. My train ride got canceled yesterday. :(
09:27:57 <CraigC> cuz of corona?
09:28:42 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes. Train goes through Colorado and New Mexico. Colorado says yes, New Mexico says no.
09:28:54 <CraigC> sorry
09:29:52 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It was a pain to plan (which we did before Corona). Involved 4 families.
09:31:21 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Daisy looking happy
09:37:33 <ynpvisitor23> Travel difficulties=number of travelers squared.
09:42:58 <ynpvisitor83> USGS update for June. Some SB stuff -
09:46:35 <Katie> Here comes the snow
09:47:01 <Kat> It's been trying all mornng
09:47:06 <Kat> morning^
09:47:35 <Katie> Butte, MT has about a FOOT. Deer Lodge, MT, about 7" last I saw - and Anaconda, between them, none.
09:47:47 <Kat> That would be morning*.....been awake since 4AM ugggh
09:48:15 <Dave from B™> Katie, keep that stuff on your side of the ate, please:)
09:48:37 <Kat> I thought YNP was supposed to start accumulating last evening
09:49:04 <Dave from B™> Probably at higher elevations
09:49:13 <Katie> Dave from B™, Missoula/Lolo banana belt has none. Just rain. I don't want it, either.
09:49:13 <Kat> :)
09:50:08 <Kat> call me crazy but I love snow!!
09:50:20 <Dave from B™> We had nice raind the past 36 hours. Everything is so green
09:50:39 <Dave from B™> Kat, you're crazy:)
09:50:48 <Kat> raining here for over a week! Tired of it!
09:50:56 <Kat> Dave from B™, Thanks
09:50:58 <Kat> LOL
09:51:26 <CraigC> KrazyKat
09:51:31 <Katie> I love snow - but not in June.
09:52:14 <Kat> I love snow especially in the park! Anytime is fine since I now live in Florida!
09:52:46 <Dave from B™> I like snow if it doesn't stick to roads
09:52:47 <Kat> CraigC, Thank you :)
09:53:14 <CraigC> that should be your name in chat today
09:53:29 <Kat> OK
09:53:49 <KrazyKat> :)
09:54:07 <Dave from B™> That makes CraigC, Cray Cray?
09:54:43 <KrazyKat> No, CrazyCraig !!
09:58:28 <ynpvisitor62> steamboat
09:58:41 <Dave from B™> ?
09:58:49 <KrazyKat> We'll see
09:59:26 <ynpvisitor62> YNR
09:59:32 <Dave from B™> To me, YNM or nothing re seismos
09:59:52 <KrazyKat> See it - we'll see
10:00:12 <Ryan> That looks like a believable YNR Trace. More usual.
10:00:24 <Jake> that's either Steamboat or snow sized snow hitting the seismo
10:00:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That would sure bum Korben out
10:00:34 <Ryan> Then again the weather is shitty.
10:00:57 <Dave from B™> Wouldn't he be there already?
10:01:00 <Lori S> if so, it makes me feel better for not going. I would have had to leave at 0930.
10:01:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Dausy
10:01:31 <ynpvisitor45> Re read what you said this morning Ryan, lol. Be vewwy careful
10:01:38 <Dave from B™> He probably got another walkup
10:01:56 <LindaG> Oh no possible steamboat
10:01:59 <Lori S> He was at West Thumb at 0930 ish ^^^^
10:02:55 <LindaG> It's not jagged like the last one
10:03:06 <Ryan> I put a “?” Placeholder in there. That looks very much like what usual YNR is.
10:04:14 <Ryan> The one that was seen all jagged is unusual. YNR usually is a faint trace it is visible at all
10:05:04 <Ryan> Still there’s.
10:05:07 <Lori S> Since it's raining/snowing, Tantalus won't be of much use. Will have to wait for the in-basin to confimr
10:05:16 <Ryan> A question mark for a reason
10:05:17 <KrazyKat> Hopefully there are some "in basin Gazers" at SB to document
10:05:23 <Lori S> Ryan, :thumbsup:
10:05:33 <LindaG> Oh I feel bad for the kid
10:05:34 <Lori S> KrazyKat, I would guess there are
10:05:43 <KrazyKat> Me too
10:05:52 <Ryan> Lori there will be a much different trace than a precip spike.
10:05:58 <Lori S> LindaG, It is still possible for 100 to go before he leaves.
10:06:14 <Ryan> You just need to wait for a couple updates to be sure.
10:06:15 <LindaG> Lori S, hope so, darn snow
10:06:36 <KrazyKat> How long is the kid there?
10:06:40 <LindaG> Now its jagged again
10:06:44 <Lori S> Ryan, But the other day it looked very Steamboaty on Tant and wasn't. Or am I missing something?
10:06:46 <Ryan> SB tantalus spike’s usually go to the peak flow rate in one jump.
10:07:08 <Lori S> KrazyKat, a week starting today
10:07:10 <Ryan> If it takes note than one or two data points to hit the max it’s not Steamboat
10:07:12 <LindaG> Looks like the other night
10:07:53 <Ryan> Agreed. That’s steamboat
10:08:10 <KrazyKat> Lori S, thanks Lori
10:08:39 <ynpvisitor35> No need to go to yellowstone, the treasure was found. Ryan can stop looking in caves for it.
10:09:01 <LindaG> What's the difference between this and the last one?
10:09:02 <Dave from B™> Looks like 100 may happen next weekend if this is 99
10:09:19 <Lori S> I am no seismo expert so I have no opinion
10:09:36 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Run out there and see Lori.
10:09:49 <KrazyKat> Waiting for confirmation
10:10:21 <ynpvisitor72> difference this time is that its not on the other seismos, right?
10:10:26 <Lori S> Kevin L™ 🌵, Over the snow and through the trees to Steamboat Lori goes LOL
10:10:38 <ynpvisitor72> and its not as spikey
10:10:50 <Lori S> I should say I have an opinion but it is not an infrmed opinion
10:10:55 <LindaG> ynpvisitor72, ah
10:10:56 <LindaG> Ok
10:11:07 <Lori S> which means it is orthless really
10:11:15 <Lori S> *worthless
10:12:03 <LindaG> Lori S, look at what Craig posted on Facebook and this one, looks the same
10:12:19 <ynpvisitor13> Radar doesn't indicate precipitation this time either so a Tamtalus spike would be more reliable.
10:12:22 <Dave from B™> When Cooper passes thru cell service at OF he is not going to like what he sees on GT
10:12:47 <ynpvisitor13> But relax. we will have in basin confrimation eventually
10:12:50 <LindaG> ynpvisitor13, 👍
10:13:35 <Lori S> Dave from B™, he is not
10:13:57 <Lori S> ynpvisitor13, Well,it is snowing in West Yellowstone if that matters
10:14:05 <ynpvisitor100> where is Big Cone?
10:14:22 <ynpvisitor13> Thanks Lori.
10:14:23 <Ryan> What 13 said. There’s a few things working for this one: a) the interval is more believable and B) we know it was ready to go yesterday.
10:14:25 <Dave from B™> West Thumb, I believe
10:14:34 <ynpvisitor100> Ok
10:14:53 <Ryan> In basin confirm will be soon enough. But I’m pretty sure that’s Steamboat. It’s not the same as what Craig saw.
10:15:32 <Lori S> Ryan, we also know this is Steamboat
10:15:38 <Lori S> that we are discussing
10:15:38 <ynpvisitor13> 110: yes W Tomb
10:15:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It is a dead geyser.
10:16:06 <Ryan> True. It is a dead geyser.
10:16:24 <LindaG> The signature looks the same but I see that there are other factors at play
10:17:36 <LindaG> Hi jeff
10:17:39 <Lori S> Big Cone reports are valid this time of year. It gets droned by the lake at some point in spring
10:17:46 <Lori S> drowned
10:17:54 <Jeff> hi linda
10:17:54 <ynpvisitor72> orben on geyser hill
10:17:55 <Lori S> usually anyway
10:18:12 <LindaG> ynpvisitor72, not yet
10:18:13 <Dave from B™> Guess he's not going straight to SB
10:18:26 <Ryan> This trace is more consistent and defined.
10:18:29 <Lori S> Looks like he is at the Anemones
10:19:08 <LindaG> Yup he entered
10:19:27 <LindaG> ynpvisitor72, ynp
10:19:38 <ynpvisitor79> Now that Yellowstone Forever is shutting down and closing FOREVER how is this going to effect hotels, bookstores, education center etc and camera there!!!!
10:20:00 <ynpvisitor79>
10:20:05 <ynpvisitor90> Did Steamboat erupt on June 6th?
10:20:12 <Dave from B™> 79, not sure. Thanks for reminding me. I'm going to call and ask for my donation back that I made 10 days ago.
10:20:24 <LindaG> ynpvisitor90, no
10:20:28 <Dave from B™> 90, no
10:20:29 <Jeff> 90 no. the beverlys confirmed it wasnt an eruption
10:20:37 <ynpvisitor45> ynpvisitor79, the Institute is suspended
10:20:46 <ynpvisitor90> This signal looks just like the one on the 6th.
10:20:51 <ynpvisitor79> Looks like they have known sice the merger this was coming and the rats are jumping ship.
10:20:58 <ynpvisitor72> fake news 79
10:21:01 <Eric> Yes, YF still exists, they just don't want to fund education!
10:21:04 <ynpvisitor79>
10:21:11 <Dave from B™> I won't donate if education isn't priority #1
10:21:16 <Eric> They want to Profit.
10:21:17 <ynpvisitor45> I saw that, the financial report was out in Feb, and theyjust fire people in June!!
10:21:41 <ynpvisitor90> and there was a spike on Tantalus on the 6th, maybe the timing wasn't correct?
10:21:44 <ynpvisitor72> covid cancelled the classes already
10:22:10 <ynpvisitor79> Here is a financial report from last year.
10:22:14 <ynpvisitor79>
10:22:15 <ynpvisitor13> Tantalus spike was preciptation driven
10:22:28 <Lori S> Do keep in mind all Xanterra bus tours are cancelled so far this summer. No profit in 12 on a bus
10:22:41 <Eric> The whole YF seems very mis-managed and I don't think it was the last president either...I think the board of YF is an uninterested showboard!
10:22:56 <Lori S> Hi Eric
10:22:58 <ynpvisitor72> and a lot of lodging closed and employees not hired
10:22:58 <Jake> Steamboat spikes are sharply increasing on the left side of the peak. Precipitation spikes are symmetrical humps.
10:23:02 <Eric> Morning all
10:23:05 <Eric> Hi Lori
10:23:09 <ynpvisitor72> lots of NPS staff not hired
10:23:19 <Jeff> morning eric
10:23:27 <ynpvisitor72> lets blame YF for that too
10:23:33 <ynpvisitor79> Look like a bunch of rich people were running every thing. Yellowstone not a park owned by the USA anymore?
10:24:21 <ynpvisitor79> Another article I found. This is freaking me out.
10:24:25 <ynpvisitor79>
10:24:26 <Eric> The YNR trace is very interesting with it's pulses toward the end.
10:24:46 <Eric> That was last year 79
10:25:02 <ynpvisitor90> It looks just like the signal on June 6th, which was apparently was not an eruption.
10:25:10 <Eric> Highly paid executives that the board threw under the bus.
10:25:15 <ynpvisitor79> So does this mean the camera will be left off line when it goes down??? No money for workers to fix it?
10:25:28 <Eric> Possibly 79
10:25:30 <ynpvisitor72> 90- difference is its not on the other seismos, and its less jagged
10:26:11 <Eric> But the park maintains the camera I believe, the Foundation supports it through contributions to support equipment and the T1 line
10:26:12 <ynpvisitor45> the board should be thrown under the bus
10:26:34 <ynpvisitor79> I agree. Millions of dollars went where?
10:26:41 <LindaG> Eric, I think k so too
10:26:45 <Eric> The board is a love/hate kinda thing...they bring in big donations or they wouldn't be on the board.
10:26:52 <Jake> former YF president just found the Fenn treasure and will use it to fund YF, restore their former glory and earn their rightful place on the throne
10:27:28 <LindaG> Jake, 😃
10:27:38 <ynpvisitor72> NPS runs the cam
10:27:43 <Lori S> Jake, you know that will end up in some fake news somewhere, right?
10:27:48 <Lori S> :p
10:27:48 <Eric> YF is driven by $$$, where the institute was driven by passion for the park.
10:27:51 <ynpvisitor79> Covid had nothing to do with the shut down.
10:28:07 <Jake> Season 1: The Merger, Season 2: The Fall, Season 3: The Redemption
10:28:14 <ynpvisitor45> ynpvisitor79, I agree, it was written long before the virus
10:28:26 <ynpvisitor72> where have yu been 79? its resulted in shutdwns everywhere
10:28:28 <ynpvisitor79> Yep.
10:28:49 <ynpvisitor72> more people attended YI last year than ever before
10:28:52 <ynpvisitor45> they are using covid as an excuse
10:29:08 <ynpvisitor72> its a reason for suspending it this year
10:29:23 <Eric> is it suspended or shuttered?
10:29:28 <ynpvisitor79> 72 I agree.
10:29:30 <ynpvisitor72> not denying they are poorly run
10:29:33 <Jake> if they were financially stable and suspended the institue, there'd be less reason to be upset
10:29:52 <ynpvisitor72> just susended per the reports. no restart time, but thats not unusual
10:29:55 <ynpvisitor79> Shuttered I read Eric.
10:30:11 <LindaG> Snow
10:30:26 <Eric> ok...would be great to have definitive answer on that...very big difference
10:30:31 <Jake> if they had funds and prioritized education, they could use this time to produce digital content or switch their business model and not lose employees, but they don't
10:30:46 <Eric> I understand suspending the institute for this season as Covid is still a huge issue.
10:30:49 <ynpvisitor72> thats only if you didnt read the statement 79 which says suspended
10:31:55 <ynpvisitor79> There was chatter circulating on social media channels Friday and Saturday that the nonprofit's board of directors had decided to permanently shut down the Institute, though Sholly told Traveler "we will get the Institute back on line." That said, the superintendent expressed serious concerns about Yellowstone Forever's stability.
10:32:10 <ynpvisitor35> Now that they layed off all the workers, why does the board need big pay checks? Other groups and companies are suspending executive pay.
10:32:16 <ynpvisitor79>
10:32:44 <ynpvisitor72> ok, i beieve the social media chatter more thn the YF statement
10:32:47 <ynpvisitor79> I agree 35
10:32:49 <ynpvisitor72> duh!
10:33:10 <ynpvisitor79> Yep 72
10:33:32 <Eric> This seems more like a shutter statement - "We believe in the mission of the Institute, but current circumstances prevent us from opening this year and likely next year."
10:33:50 <Eric> Also there was chatter on social media about them permanently shuttering the institute.
10:33:55 <ynpvisitor79> Ryan running to the bank
10:34:05 <ynpvisitor13> Here's part of the problem, "seven top staff combined received $1.19 million in salaries "
10:34:11 <Eric> So I don't think it's cut and dry about "suspending" the educational arm of YF
10:34:14 <ynpvisitor79> Wow!!!
10:34:22 <Eric> OF
10:34:50 <ynpvisitor79> Will the vistor center be closed too?
10:35:07 <Eric> Yep, they are not that big of a non-profit.
10:35:13 <ynpvisitor79> How much to they run there?
10:35:30 <Eric> Visitor center is run by the park service.
10:35:43 <ynpvisitor79> How much do they run there?
10:35:53 <ynpvisitor13> 14.6 mil in assets
10:36:02 <ynpvisitor79> OMG
10:36:05 <Eric> I have no idea what you are asking 79, sorry.
10:36:17 <ynpvisitor72> YF runs gift stores and park programs to improve the park
10:36:43 <ynpvisitor79> What park programs?
10:36:45 <ynpvisitor72> all YI classes have been cancelled due to Covid
10:36:52 <ynpvisitor79> What buildings do they run?
10:37:14 <ynpvisitor72> check their site, trails, wildlife, i think they fund the trout removal in the Lake
10:37:16 <Eric> Ahh, multiple "bookstores/gift shops" throughout the park.
10:37:35 <ynpvisitor79> any resturants?
10:37:39 <ynpvisitor72> yeah,they run the stores in the VC's
10:37:46 <ynpvisitor72> no restaurants
10:37:49 <Eric> No food that I know of
10:37:56 <ynpvisitor72> thats Xanterra and Delaware North
10:38:09 <CraigC> who runs the Norris bookstore
10:38:15 <ynpvisitor72> YF
10:38:15 <ynpvisitor79> That's china right?
10:38:17 <ynpvisitor13> YF
10:38:28 <CraigC> is Bill out of a job then?
10:38:29 <Eric> China?
10:38:46 <ynpvisitor13> its the YI shut down not YF
10:38:48 <Jake> 79, no. China owns Mammoth Hot Springs
10:38:48 <ynpvisitor72> why would bill be out of a job? he doesnt work for the Institute
10:38:58 <CraigC> sorry
10:39:04 <Eric> They will find a way to keep the bookstores open, I would assume that is a decent park of their income.
10:39:10 <CraigC> I'm an idiot..... I ask dumb questions
10:39:22 <Eric> We still love you Craig :-D
10:39:26 <ynpvisitor72> China lends the money to USA to fund NPS, so they do own it :)
10:39:43 <Jake> Nestle bought the rights to the water via a Chinese subsidiary who has a member on the board of YF. You can't make this stuff up!
10:40:01 <Eric> OMG...stop Jake!
10:40:03 <Eric> :-P
10:40:04 <ynpvisitor79> That's what I thought.
10:40:26 <ynpvisitor72> and Nestle is swiss, right?
10:40:30 <Eric> Don't feed the trolls!
10:40:39 <ynpvisitor79> Who is that member on the board with ties to China?
10:40:42 <ynpvisitor72> Cam is Japanese too, right?
10:40:47 <CraigC> so this YNR trace is less spikey than the one on the 6th?
10:40:55 <ynpvisitor69> Jumping in here. All YF retail Employees for stores have been laid off. I am one of them
10:40:57 <CraigC> ooops, dumb question, backspace
10:41:00 <Eric> It has weird pulses Craig
10:41:14 <Eric> look at the end of the trace
10:41:19 <ynpvisitor35> As I remember what I read, the book stores are about a break even proposition. They actiually do about as well with the gift jar then they do selling stuff. The jars are cheep compared to inventory.
10:41:29 <ynpvisitor79> :thumbsdown:Sorry to hear that 35
10:41:40 <CraigC> ynpvisitor69, sorry
10:41:53 <ynpvisitor79> The gift shops brought in ove 2 million lst year
10:41:56 <ynpvisitor72> hadnt heard that, sorry 69
10:42:08 <Eric> Ugg, yes...that sucks 69! I assumed they would try and keep the bookstores open.
10:42:26 <Eric> So if they have no bookstores running and no institute, fire the management!
10:42:34 <Jake> hard to run those stores with social distancing in place
10:42:34 <Eric> What else are they doing?
10:43:03 <Lori S> Eric, by that reasoning, we should fire the POTUS :p
10:43:12 <Eric> I agree Lori :-P
10:43:22 <ynpvisitor69> Couldn’t open with the visitor centers sill closed. They generate income mostly through selling memberships to YF
10:43:24 <ynpvisitor72> do we know if the VC's will ope?
10:43:35 <Eric> But that steps into the political territory, which I am trying to avoid.
10:43:40 <ynpvisitor72> yeah 69, i just made that connection
10:43:51 <Lori S> Eric, sorry :thumbsup:
10:43:57 <ynpvisitor72> cnt open the stores if the VC's are closed
10:44:22 <ynpvisitor72> maybe there is a covid factor after all?
10:44:25 <ynpvisitor79> Look like they are still taking memberships even though they are closed?
10:44:26 <Eric> Yep...that makes it very tough. But I don't see a reason to have management if you have no employees.
10:44:48 <Chancellor> Did we miss OF ?
10:44:56 <LindaG> Eric, good point
10:45:07 <Eric> Nope, 1034
10:45:15 <ynpvisitor35> Well, the above article says the stores brought in 2.7 and it cost 3.3 to run them.
10:45:16 <Katie> We watched it - it just wasn't entered. "/ get video" would still have it
10:45:21 <ynpvisitor79> No 72 they have known for years they were going to shut down.
10:45:34 <ynpvisitor72> also YI lost money
10:45:59 <ynpvisitor72> yeah, NPS has planned the VC shutdown for years
10:46:06 <ynpvisitor79> Should have cut the boards wages years ago.
10:46:11 <Eric> the stores cost 3.3 to run?!!? Apparently nobody is managing these things anyway!
10:46:24 <Eric> I assume the board doesn't get paid.
10:46:30 <ynpvisitor35> Lots of creative ways to make it look like the institute lost money.
10:46:33 <ynpvisitor79> How could it cost so much to run????
10:46:36 <Eric> I would hope it's a volunteer board.
10:46:47 <ynpvisitor72> the board dont get paid
10:46:51 <Dave from B™> You are missing the point. School lose money to but education is still important. How much will they lose in donatinos if the Institute is closed. It will be MILLIONS
10:47:28 <Eric> Yes, I think you are correct Dave. Time for a new Non-Profit to take this hogs place.
10:47:44 <CraigC> Dave from B™, but that is rational thiinking
10:47:45 <Dave from B™> Time to bring back YA
10:47:54 <Jake> Yellowstone For...Now
10:48:12 <Eric> haha...I like it Jake
10:48:18 <CraigC> we can't have Socialism....
10:48:23 <ynpvisitor79> Sounds like it was a pyramid scheme
10:48:50 <ynpvisitor35> More like ponzy. Big difference
10:49:07 <Eric> was YI self sustaining before the merger and what prompted them to merge?
10:49:14 <ynpvisitor79> Yep 35
10:49:56 <ynpvisitor79> The merger of the Yellowstone Park Foundation and the Yellowstone Association creates a single nonprofit organization of more than 50,000 supporters. The combined organization will be more flexible, and able to respond more effectively to the needs of Yellowstone National Park.
10:50:06 <ynpvisitor79>
10:50:39 <JarnoO> morning all
10:50:41 <CraigC> no steamboat?
10:50:47 <Eric> NO, I don't really care what YF said about the merger, curious about why YI decided to allow the merger.
10:50:48 <JarnoO> no Steamboat. Probably some hail again
10:50:53 <Dave from B™> No Steamboat
10:51:06 <CraigC> but what about YNR? ;)
10:51:15 <Eric> Wow...another FAKE YNR
10:51:25 <Eric> The pulses looked weird to me on YNR
10:51:32 <CraigC> this one is so smooth and unjagged like the one that fooled Craig
10:51:33 <Lori S> CraigC, lol
10:51:46 <ynpvisitor72> :thumbsup:
10:51:52 <ynpvisitor79> Eric what ever they said was a lie jut to take $$$
10:52:07 <Lori S> So, then what has caused these 2 strong YNR traces? Cloggers? :0
10:52:18 <ynpvisitor13> YNR is not reliable as an indicator. Sometimes SB doesn't show up at all there
10:52:22 <Eric> Whats a Clogger?
10:52:28 <CraigC> Lori S, maybe the road maintenance plant has a rock crusher going
10:52:49 <Katie> cloggers: Connell, Mark Mark Connell 4605 Arnica Rd Missoula MT 59803
10:52:56 <Lori S> Eric,
10:53:00 <Eric> I have a satellite radio now, so if I make it to SB, you guys will get a txt :-P
10:53:03 <JarnoO> do note that YNR is outside and exposed to the elements, while YNM is in the museum (if I recall correctly)
10:53:06 <Katie> oops:
10:53:11 <CraigC> cloggers are dancers with wooden shoes?
10:53:20 <Jake> wow, so that should shut down any more YNR Steamboat entries. Who wants to be part of a group that includes CraigC and Ryan?
10:53:37 <Eric> ahh, people dancing at YNR...always wondered where the party was at!
10:53:41 <CraigC> Jake, touche'
10:55:35 <Ryan> Damn that trace is there again.
10:56:02 <Eric> Thanks for the help learning...I thought you might have been talking about this:
10:56:15 <Ryan> 1034. Would be nice to see the raw data from YNR to figure more out about whats going on.
10:56:21 <Eric> Steamboat erupted again! Another E time!
10:57:14 <ynpvisitor72> next one is #100? or are we at 101?
10:57:20 <Jake> one can get the seismo raw data in real-time
10:57:24 <NotCraig> Eric, ;)
10:57:28 <Eric> Are we counting Fake ones?
10:57:39 <Jake> have to go through some steps to get access
10:58:02 <ynpvisitor72> is the E tie going to be deleted?
10:58:03 <Jake> but it is available to the public and you'll need to be able to write code to deal with it
10:58:34 <Lori S> Eric, I may need to add another column to my spreadsheet. LOL
10:58:51 <Lori S> ynpvisitor72, It will I'm sure.
10:59:19 <Eric> With the real data you can actually look at the different axis too, which might reveal what is shakin.
10:59:33 <Dave from B™> Tell Cooper to get to SB
10:59:44 <Ryan> Whatever is making that trace is rythmic with waves every ten minute
10:59:54 <Ryan> every minute*
11:00:00 <JarnoO> the seismograms also record on which frequency the eruptions takes place. For YNM you'd have to look between 5Hz to 50Hz, with peaking between 25Hz and 45Hz. For YNR it seems 5Hz to 45Hz, with peaks between 5Hz and 15Hz
11:00:11 <Ryan> 72, I was considering leaving it up there just for shits and giggles.
11:00:17 <Eric> Yep, that too Jarno
11:00:38 <Eric> I flagged it with Wills message so people connect the dots easier
11:00:59 <Ryan> I am going to remove it and put a note up showing what YNR traces that are not SB can look like
11:01:09 <Ryan> We are relearning reading the seismograms.
11:01:43 <Lori S> Ryan, :thumbsup:
11:01:43 <Eric> Not really, we are coping with YNM being broken!
11:02:05 <Eric> @USGS YVO please fix the logger!
11:02:15 <NotCraig> I learned that there is no hurry to enter anything not observed directly
11:02:18 <Lori S> Anyone want to buy or lend me a sat phone for the summer? :)
11:02:18 <JarnoO> this website shows where you should be looking for with SB eruptions: (change 2020 in the URL to 2018 or 2019 to view traces for that year)
11:02:36 <Eric> Mike was just there on 6/1 too!
11:03:06 <Ryan> Curious to see if there is a precip spike
11:03:41 <JarnoO> I recall a note said that the whole museum doesn't have power (maintenance I think), so it might take some time
11:03:50 <Eric> I still think an E ? entry was worthy...but now in retrospect, they seem less helpful
11:04:03 <Ryan> Fake News Steamboat 0942E :D
11:04:10 <JarnoO> so really getting the loggers and YNM back up depends on how good (or bad) the maintenance goes
11:04:20 <NotCraig> what do we lose seeing a seismo trace and just waiting for someone to confirm, impatience got the best of me
11:04:30 <Eric> ahh, didn't know power was still out in the museum
11:04:52 <Lori S> NotCraig, What DID we do before the internet? :)
11:04:56 <ynpvisitor72> no more posts from Cooper, I wonder if he went to Norris?
11:05:08 <Eric> Well, if it was a reasonable indicator that an eruption was happening, it could get people in basin to go out and see part of a SB eruption Craig.
11:05:08 <NotCraig> Lori S, :)
11:05:27 <Dave from B™> SB brings out the excitement in people.
11:05:28 <Lori S> ynpvisitor72, Perhaps but I lean toward an early lunch
11:05:29 <NotCraig> Eric, yeah, are notes good enough for that purpose?
11:05:53 <Ryan> Craig, the E times provide wonderful abilities to get data when no one is there.
11:05:55 <Dave from B™> SB confirms can take hours. How can we wait that long?
11:05:58 <Eric> I don't think so, people can see what the E ? time shows for data and make their own damn decision.
11:06:04 <Lori S> Dave from B™, <<< understaement of 2020
11:06:10 <CraigC> Dave from B™, wait for what?
11:06:25 <Lori S> for the excitement not the confimrs
11:06:29 <ynpvisitor13> Long ago for a while there were post cards sent out to GOSA members to inform of major events
11:06:29 <JarnoO>
11:06:33 <Dave from B™> Wait for a confrimation of an eruption. S
11:06:52 <Ryan> Comparing known in basin reports with electronic signatures is the only way to learn how to see them accurately when we are not there
11:06:55 <CraigC> Dave from B™, what is the difference in waiting whether an entry is made from the seismo or not
11:06:59 <Dave from B™> Now we know to jusyt ignore YNR
11:07:00 <ynpvisitor72> all the worlds problems, and now we have to deal with the seismos playing with our emotions .... noooooooo
11:07:06 <Eric> Ok...if people are making poor choices from reading an E ? eruption on GT, then it's them making bad choices, not the poster.
11:07:11 <JarnoO> priorities, #72 :)
11:07:22 <Ryan> So, logging E times - even false alarms, ESPECIALLY false alarms - is a really important thing to do
11:07:28 <Lori S> Eric, :thumbsup:
11:07:41 <Lori S> Ryan, :thumbsup:
11:08:07 <Eric> I agree Ryan, there is a ? on those entries for a reason!
11:08:09 <Ryan> Whatever is on YNR now is still rhtymic.
11:08:10 <Lori S> Prob not related but museum was empty last I was there. Perhaps new exhibits are going in today?
11:08:31 <Ryan> Exactly, Eric. Its not impatience, its recording data when you see it.
11:09:00 <Ryan> It is important to know what you thought/concluded the first time you saw it so you can compare later with retrospective insights.
11:09:43 <Jake> but no one would record it if it happened at the 2.5 day interval mark
11:09:54 <ynpvisitor45> remember what you said early this morning, Ryan.
11:10:23 <Ryan> 5:17:38 ‹Ryan› Morning all. Looking back through archives we should be very careful on calling Steamboat from YNR. Many eruptions are not even visible. And Tantalus spikes need tight scrutiny to be the clincher. Steamboat spikes follow a pretty consistent trend on Tantlus but typically you need to look at the numerical data to see it.
11:10:44 <Dave from B™> CraigC, I will never post a SB with only YNR...especially after thelast few days events
11:10:51 <Lori S> Well, if we have no confirmation of a SB by 6 pm, I will head in. having no sat phone, that doesn't really help, but...
11:11:15 <Ryan> Based on past traces on YNR, and knowing that SB was ready to erupt yesterday, I made an educated observation that it *may* have started (hence the "?")
11:11:15 <ynpvisitor36> Why 6 pm?
11:11:21 <Ryan> I did exactly what I said this morning.
11:11:21 <CraigC> Dave from B™, :thumbsup:
11:12:00 <CraigC> as a newbie, I'll leave non-direct observation entries alone
11:12:01 <Lori S> ynpvisitor36, shared vehicle that, by the by, currently needs oil. And I hate mid day at Norris even if SB is involved
11:12:09 <ynpvisitor45> I just think for the ? ones, there is no rush to post
11:12:30 <ynpvisitor36> 45, :thumbsup:
11:13:27 <Lori S> I find the rush to post, if a ? is attached, helpful myself
11:13:52 <Eric> Why not post it so people can at least see there is a question? If they choose or don't choose to go check it out, then it's on them. Keeping the info to yourself seems rediculous to me.
11:14:01 <CraigC> honest question..... who sees GT and not the seismos when they look?
11:14:03 <Ryan> ^ that
11:14:13 <Lori S> But like Craig, I am also a newbie
11:14:35 <Eric> Newb or not, we shouldn't be discouraging people from posting their observations.
11:14:38 <ynpvisitor72> Craig - people in the park may not see the seismos
11:14:45 <ynpvisitor53> KorbenC here
11:14:49 <ynpvisitor36> Poor Mark drove in on that ? last time
11:14:53 <Eric> Hey Coop
11:14:54 <ynpvisitor53> At doublet
11:14:57 <CraigC> if I have service, I see both
11:14:57 <JarnoO> hi Korben. How's the weather?
11:14:59 <Lori S> Howdy Korben
11:15:01 <ynpvisitor36> Last time
11:15:07 <ynpvisitor53> Lying on the ground
11:15:17 <ynpvisitor45> I think the opposite, Eric, I would think I missed it and not go!
11:15:20 <JarnoO> no Steamboat, so no rush to Norris
11:15:28 <ynpvisitor53> Aurum is looking good
11:15:29 <JarnoO> @Korben, that is
11:15:33 <Ryan> Or, rush to norris?
11:15:47 <Lori S> ynpvisitor53, I'm jealous :)
11:15:56 <Eric> So do people not know how to read entries? I am very curious about this from a development perspective.
11:16:06 <ynpvisitor53> Should I wave at the cam
11:16:08 <CraigC> when I wake up early in West, I am checking YNM before I ever open GT
11:16:09 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Aurum ALWAYS is looking good.
11:16:19 <Lori S> ynpvisitor53, we are looking down basin at the moment
11:16:30 <JarnoO> by the way, Korben, last advisory for Cristobal. Invest western Atlantic 10/10
11:16:31 <Eric> Can we make the ? question mark more obvious or what needs to be done to make it clearer?
11:16:42 <ynpvisitor53> Kevin L™ 🌵, leave for a second plz
11:16:55 <Lori S> CraigC, valid point. When I got back yesterday, I cheked the seismo, Tantalus Creek, and GT in hat order
11:17:07 <Lori S> *that
11:17:07 <Kevin L™ 🌵> The chickens are hungry...
11:17:12 <LindaG> So no steamboat what the heck is on seismo
11:17:38 <Eric> Coop is at Norris Clogging apparently on YNR
11:17:49 <CraigC> Eric, hahahahaha
11:17:58 <Dave from B™> Cooper, you need to get to Norris
11:18:04 <Lori S> Eric, he can't weigh THAT much :)
11:18:11 <Eric> Yes, why aren't you at Norris Coop?
11:18:19 <Eric> Big shoes Lori
11:18:32 <Ryan> Someone is going into the park now.
11:18:37 <LindaG> It was snowing
11:19:00 <JarnoO> how about lead-weighted shoes? :D
11:19:01 <Ryan> Can y'all pray to whatever thing you do or do not pray to that it holds off another 3 hrs or so
11:19:08 <Jake> one problem with the GT question mark is the question can mean different things
11:19:37 <Ryan> We cant help people too lazy to read the comments
11:19:41 <Eric> But doesn't it ALWAYS mean there is a question?
11:19:48 <Lori S> Ryan, I use the One With SB method :)
11:19:56 <Ryan> a "?" requires you to enter a comment explaining why.
11:20:14 <Ryan> If you see "?" and are too lazy to read the entry then nothing on GT can help you
11:20:31 <Lori S> If you want to see the SB you must be the SB. :p
11:20:45 <Eric> Yes, I am really perplexed by peoples push back on this.
11:20:52 <ynpvisitor45> how about a NOTE instead of a ? post
11:21:08 <Ryan> Because its not a note
11:21:09 <Lori S> ynpvisitor45, Then why do we even need a ?
11:21:12 <Eric> Why a note, it's not a note
11:21:31 <Jake> the comment on Ryan's entry wasn't for any newbie to figure out. What did it say "something YNR trace"? I'm not saying it has to be for a newbie, you can put in whatever you want.
11:21:32 <Eric> It's a suspected eruption with explaination of why you think that.
11:21:54 <Ryan> I think people are just upset because they also thought it erupted and cant acknowledge they were also wrong...
11:21:58 <ynpvisitor72> it could be a note .... come on, a note can be about anything
11:22:26 <Lori S> ynpvisitor72, I'm taking your word on that next time I am at Norris
11:22:30 <ynpvisitor45> Not push back, I am fine waiting for in basin reports and don't see the rush to post a ?
11:22:42 <ynpvisitor72> :thumbsup:
11:22:48 <Ryan> The entry was done kosher. It was a false alarm. I removed it and put a note saying I was wrong and noted why I thought it erupted.
11:22:55 <Ryan> FFS there was no rush.
11:23:09 <Ryan> I saw it, I thought about it, I entered it. JEsus.
11:23:12 <Lori S> NOTE: Empty parking lot at Norris at 0530
11:23:50 <JarnoO> -_
11:23:52 <JarnoO> -_-
11:23:54 <Ryan> Same with Craig. He saw a YNR trace that reasonably looked like SB. He entered it. It was wrong, he removed it.
11:23:57 <ynpvisitor72> need the count on the number ofcars if its not empty
11:24:02 <Lori S> NOTE: Pit toilets have nit been cleaned yet. BYOTP
11:24:20 <Ryan> Damned if you do, damned if you dont, and damned anyways.
11:24:26 <ynpvisitor72> didnt we have those notes before?
11:24:30 <Lori S> Ryan, ing ding ding
11:24:38 <Ryan> Damned if youre right, damned if your wrong, damned if you say something, and damned if you shut up.
11:24:41 <ynpvisitor72> or about when the water was turned on in spring
11:24:45 <Lori S> My keyboard is faulty and I'm sticking to that
11:25:15 <Ryan> So I just do my own thing because the end result is the same anywasy :D
11:25:28 <Ryan> Lori S, I love the typos in here.
11:25:46 <Ryan> Keeps me on my feet and provides plausible deniability
11:25:51 <ynpvisitor72> i vote for posting something be it a note or a ?
11:25:55 <JarnoO> NOTE: Grass at 44.462480, -110.833723 0.5" taller than yesterday
11:26:20 <Lori S> JarnoO, :thumbsup:
11:26:31 <Eric> I have a huge problem with people critizing others entries! More so then people making entries when they observe something.
11:26:38 <Ryan> The only opinion I have on it is that if you have a suspected "?" entry and it turns out to be wrong you should leave a note explaining the original entry.
11:26:40 <Lori S> NOTE: Sign at SB still says 4 days to 50 years
11:26:57 <Ryan> That way people know what caused a false alarm.
11:27:07 <ynpvisitor45> Ryan, agreed
11:27:19 <ynpvisitor13> Don't expect that sign to change for years
11:27:38 <ynpvisitor72> sign replacement is in the funding backlog
11:27:41 <LindaG> I'm glad not steamboat maybe korben can get over there and see the real thing
11:27:56 <Lori S> LindaG, :thumbsup:
11:28:17 <ynpvisitor13> Not gonna see it sitting at Doublet and URUM
11:28:28 <ynpvisitor72> a 7pm eruption for Korben and Lori?
11:28:29 <Ryan> You cant make anyone go somewhere
11:28:32 <Dave from B™> Loris, why isn't Cooper at Norris?
11:28:41 <ynpvisitor45> so looks like Will left if he got a call
11:28:52 <ynpvisitor12> I like that idea. Even though it means I'll have to post a lot more notes saying: "I still can't get steam clouds right. Sorry!"
11:28:53 <Ryan> I just begged Will to go to Norris and he just left Bozeman.
11:29:09 <LindaG> It was snowing I'm sure if korben could drive hed be there
11:29:41 <ynpvisitor45> is User34still there?
11:29:46 <Ryan> Yes
11:30:11 <Ryan> This is like the trolley problem
11:30:17 <Ryan> Will can only stay until about 7pm.
11:30:30 <Ryan> So 6:30 for Will or 7:30 for LoriS and KC?
11:30:50 <Ryan> As a Sput and for someone who has yet to see it - 6:30 for Will. Sorry guys :(
11:31:19 <ynpvisitor45> we might have a few days yet...
11:31:24 <Ryan> Or 7 and hope by some miracle youre all there
11:31:34 <Eric> or we might have 5 minutes :-P
11:31:34 <Lori S> Hey, if Will gets it before I get there, I would be overjoyed really
11:31:55 <Jeff> lori i feel like youll get it before me lol
11:31:59 <Ryan> If Will get's it I am going to ******* cry
11:32:20 <Lori S> Jeff, :thumbsup:and sorry
11:32:29 <Ryan> Poor kid's had a seriously rough go lately, he needs a good break
11:32:37 <Jeff> dont be lol ill be there soon enough
11:33:20 <Lori S> This is starting to feel like It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World
11:33:32 <Lori S> Race to the Boat!
11:33:52 <JarnoO> The Great Race to Steamboat :)
11:33:53 <Jeff> ill go mad if i dont get to see it lol
11:33:59 <Dave from B™> MAybe I shuld drop everything and go so no one gets to see it today:)
11:34:12 <Lori S> Dave from B™, awww
11:34:23 <Lori S> poor Dave
11:34:31 <Jeff> dave i should go hangout all day then leave at around 4pm and itll go a few hours later
11:34:43 <ynpvisitor45> just announce you are going tomorrow?
11:35:14 <Eric> Did you have a good weekend there Dave?
11:35:25 <Dave from B™> I had a blast
11:35:26 <Eric> Get any BH eruptions?
11:36:15 <Dave from B™> Only 75 minutes of gazing....not a gazing trip
11:36:34 <Lori S> West gate starting to look more lik the West gate I'm used to right now
11:36:54 <Eric> ahhh, bummer
11:37:16 <ynpvisitor45> lodging opening will change things this week, I think
11:40:56 <LindaG> We should start a fund for a wireless solar-powered camera at SB
11:43:12 <LindaG> Or is anticipation half the fun?
11:43:34 <Ryan> I'd prefer a camera so the people reading the seismos can stop being harassed.
11:43:38 <CraigC> yes
11:43:59 <Dave from B™> I would love a camera at SB
11:44:21 <Dave from B™> But it would be more fun at Fountain. You would see more geysers erupt then on this cam
11:44:23 <Lori S> All we really need it a red button in basin we can press if it goes.
11:44:41 <Lori S> Or tht SB can activate
11:44:48 <Dave from B™> hahahaha
11:44:52 <LindaG> I dont know why they should be harassed. At least they are taking action.
11:44:58 <Lori S> That is not subject to moving or a battery dying, etc
11:45:01 <JarnoO> just imagine the number of Jets we'd get, Dave :)
11:45:02 <Jake> cam at SB, move YNR to Fountain!
11:45:40 <ynpvisitor45> Coop going to Grand?
11:45:59 <Lori S> I will bring back my call for a SB "bat signal" in the sky :)
11:46:23 <LindaG> Lori S, Kevin train cam runs on one and it a nice cam, manned by volunteers
11:46:31 <CraigC> Lori S, Graham has flashlights for that
11:46:47 <Ryan> LindaG, the people reading electronic monitors get harassed by the in basin people for trying to 'usurp them' and harassed by webcam gazers who think its pointless.
11:47:24 <Ryan> Person A talks Steamboat technical details, Person B complains - its the daily routine here.
11:47:32 <LindaG> I dont think its pointless.
11:47:35 <Katie> In basin entries always take precedence, don't they? What's the brouhaha? So many prickly egos...
11:47:40 <Ryan> Put a camera up and then everyone can shut up about it.
11:48:16 <LindaG> it's pointless. Its going g to do what it wants but that's what the seismo is there for. Interpretation.
11:48:43 <LindaG> Ok I didnt say it was pointless
11:48:45 <Eric> Agree Katie...just post and ignore the haters. :-D
11:48:45 <Ryan> Katie, I think people also believed it erupted and this time it fooled a lot of people. Unlike some, they chose to criticize the entry rather than just admit they got duped.
11:48:49 <Lori S> Ah the thrill of the chase.
11:49:13 <LindaG> I dont think it is pointless. Lol
11:49:28 <JarnoO> slow day in the basin
11:49:36 <Lori S> JarnoO, lol
11:50:02 <Ryan> Ahah, but interpretation of electronic data begets interpretation of patterns.
11:50:17 <Ryan> So its only pointless beyond an arbitrary point...
11:50:45 <Ryan> Thats like having a rain gauge to see that its raining but ignoring how much it rained...
11:51:10 <LindaG> So interpret
11:51:16 <Eric> I personally would not add another SB entry off YNR now. Not until we can get some better understanding of WTF that trace is being caused by. But I sure am not going to knock someone else who has a reason to enter it.
11:51:36 <CraigC> Eric, ditto
11:51:42 <Ryan> Eric, agree
11:51:58 <Eric> :heart:
11:52:25 <CraigC> doesn't mean I won't joke about it, though
11:52:26 <Eric> I hope we can get that sorted....those entries really do look thermal or pump like.
11:52:54 <Eric> Yes, you still get crap if you are wrong :-P
11:52:54 <LindaG> The other night I saw the trace first and dinged because in thought it was steamboat. I dont regret saying I thought it was steamboat.
11:52:55 <Ryan> Dare we ask people in the basin whats happening?
11:53:43 <Eric> Only if you know them Ryan :-) I think everyone is pretty well aware there is a weird trace on YNR now.
11:53:55 <Dave from B™> YNR and tantalus both seem so risky when looking for SB.
11:54:09 <Eric> I wouldn't have said that last week Dave
11:54:16 <Eric> But I agree with you now.
11:54:27 <Ryan> Tantalus is much safer than YNR. There at least the SB traces (when visible) have a defined shape.
11:54:48 <Katie> Dave from B™, do you offer de-scaled skin-on salmon? I'm working on perfecting crispy skin. But I hate the de-scaling chore.
11:55:04 <ynpvisitor45> I don't think many even looked at YNR in the past
11:55:05 <Ryan> I would take a Tantalus spike alone as evidence for a SB eruption under some circumstances.
11:55:20 <Ryan> 45, I kept an eye on it incase YNM was lost
11:55:34 <Dave from B™> Katie, it is supposed to come into us that way but they rarley get them all
11:55:55 <ynpvisitor45> conditions vary, it's all sort of cumulative
11:56:44 <ynpvisitor45> still learning, after 98 eruptions!
11:56:49 <CraigC> anyway, who cares about Steamboat, I want to know where the Fenn treasure was..... do we have any charts for figuring out THAT???
11:56:52 <LindaG> Better it happen now when people can get out there, so now we know it's not realiable
11:57:40 <Ryan> The common theme among all SB Tantalus traces is that the flood pulse is extremely rapid. Usually it takes 15-20 minutes to reach peak flow.
11:57:58 <Ryan> So if the peak occurs in one or two data points, and then drops, its probably Steamboat.
11:58:07 <Lori S> CraigC, Begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyon down... :p
11:58:28 <Ryan> If it takes more than two data points and possibly curves a bit into the peak, its a precip spike.
11:58:33 <Katie> Damn perfect timing _ just as OF window opens
11:58:36 <LindaG> Lori S, where do the warm waters end?
11:58:39 <Ryan> Its been that pattern for every trace I have seen.
11:58:40 <CraigC> Lori S, ;)
11:58:50 <CraigC> LindaG, Madison Jct, duhhhh
11:58:54 <Eric> Nice start
11:59:04 <LindaG> CraigC, 😋
12:00:46 <LindaG> Well I have places to go and people to see. Bbl
12:02:45 <Forestbewithyou> Just in time for grand I see
12:03:35 <Lori S> Bye LindaG
12:04:26 <Ryan> Geez that looks like SB
12:04:48 <ynpvisitor13> Daisy due
12:05:01 <Forestbewithyou> I would agree
12:05:25 <Ryan> apparently its not
12:05:39 <Forestbewithyou> well last time it was Hail
12:05:47 <Forestbewithyou> but I don't think it is hail this time
12:05:48 <Dave from B™> Forestbewithyou, read the log from today. YNR is wacky today.
12:05:55 <Forestbewithyou> ok
12:06:24 <Katie> OF due, too. I've "pushed" that longer than I should.
12:06:50 <Lori S> Katie, and we thank you
12:07:26 <Lori S> Oh, yay, Korben's at Grand
12:07:47 <Eric> Ugg, the guy I climbed with on Saturday is running 103 temp! Glad we rode in separate vehicles, but still concerning.
12:08:02 <Katie> Eric, ugh! Not good!
12:08:06 <ynpvisitor45> yikes
12:08:13 <Forestbewithyou> he hasn't entered as many notes/eruptions as he said he would
12:08:17 <Forestbewithyou> thats not good
12:08:25 <Forestbewithyou> what is the humidity?
12:08:35 <JarnoO> 77%
12:09:07 <Forestbewithyou> I ment where Eric is
12:09:27 <Forestbewithyou> like is it a dry 103 or humid 103
12:09:29 <Eric> We did keep our distance and only touched once with a fist bump at the end and I used hand sanatizer after that.
12:09:51 <Eric> That is a persons temp
12:09:58 <Forestbewithyou> oh
12:10:00 <Forestbewithyou> I see
12:10:28 <Forestbewithyou> that is really not good
12:10:36 <Eric> But you just never know when you have spent part of the day with somone, even distanced.
12:10:41 <ynpvisitor45> is he getting a test?
12:10:49 <Eric> Yep, getting tested today
12:11:24 <Eric> That was Saturday, so I might not show symptoms for another couple days.
12:11:47 <ynpvisitor45> good deal. you should sleep in the doghouse
12:11:55 <ynpvisitor100> do you family a favor and stay apart
12:12:04 <Eric> I will
12:12:13 <Eric> at least until I find out about the test
12:12:20 <ynpvisitor45> how is the spread in your community generally?
12:12:51 <Eric> we had a factory that had some infections...but this guy has been staying pretty isolated. Stay at home dad.
12:13:34 <ynpvisitor100> wow, that is a lot of people at Old Faithful and they are pretty close
12:14:36 <ynpvisitor100> hope Korben goes down to Giant, so he can see what Bijou looks like
12:15:08 <Eric> OF
12:15:34 <ynpvisitor100> he said it was doing nothing for hours when he was there last and Grotto was due
12:19:13 <Jeff> i hate packing
12:19:40 <ynpvisitor100> why do you have to pack?
12:20:17 <Jeff> moving out of my apartment next week and heading to yellowstone
12:20:48 <ynpvisitor100> oh, well you could stay in your apartment and work in your town and not have to pack
12:21:05 <ynpvisitor100> something tells me you might miss the geysers though
12:21:14 <Jeff> id rather work in yellowstone than the trash jobs around me
12:21:48 <ynpvisitor100> so do you put your extra stuff in storage?
12:21:55 <Jeff> yea
12:22:08 <ynpvisitor100> ah
12:22:29 <ynpvisitor100> hopefully you get to see Steamboat this year
12:22:39 <Jeff> i freaking hope so
12:22:51 <CraigC> Jeff, ignore YNR
12:22:51 <ynpvisitor100> now that you have raingear and a backpack
12:23:25 <Jeff> craig i wasnt going to after the last couple false alarms craig lol
12:23:37 <CraigC> Jeff, ;)
12:23:49 <Jeff> yea 100 i wanna get a few more things though for when im sitting up at norris and it starts snowing lol
12:23:59 <CraigC> for all we know, it is erupting right now
12:24:04 <Ryan> That trace is so SB-y that it almost feels like someone is messing with us
12:24:20 <Eric> a good poncho goes a long ways for staying dry and keeping your stuff dry.
12:24:35 <ynpvisitor100> yes it does
12:24:39 <CraigC> just got 2 ponchos from Amazon today
12:24:41 <Jeff> thats one thing i wanna get eric
12:24:42 <Eric> I already told you Corben is clogging on the YNR seismo!
12:25:03 <ynpvisitor100> we have lost poor bee
12:25:10 <Eric> Stop buying the mickey mouse ponchos at the store Jeff :-P
12:25:11 <CraigC> are these good ponchos;
12:25:18 <Ryan> I want tantalus to update
12:25:28 <Jeff> eric im looking at some on amazon right now lol
12:25:50 <Eric> Yes Craig! Frogg Togg stuff is pretty bullet proof. I wouldn't wear it hiking, but great for sitting and staying dry.
12:26:01 <CraigC> cool, thanks
12:26:12 <CraigC> threw them in the truck just now
12:26:15 <Lori S> Eric, I've still got my cheap, purple plastic one from 2 years ago. :)
12:26:34 <ynpvisitor13> those ponchos are "Beathable"
12:26:41 <Eric> hahahaha
12:26:43 <Eric> Not
12:26:48 <ynpvisitor100> Craig did you get your trailer fixed?
12:26:55 <CraigC> ynpvisitor13, hahahahah, I usually catch stuff like that
12:27:03 <CraigC> ynpvisitor100, they said no leaks
12:27:10 <ynpvisitor100> good
12:27:15 <CraigC> must just be trailer odor
12:27:38 <CraigC> as soon as I spend time in it, it will smell ... different
12:27:55 <ynpvisitor100> I hope in a good way
12:28:33 <CraigC> I packed some air freshener
12:29:28 <Eric> That is no gas leak?
12:29:51 <Eric> make sure your trailer has a co2 detector near the floor.
12:30:09 <CraigC> Eric, it does
12:30:09 <ynpvisitor81> Well, no propane leak anyway.
12:30:29 <Eric> haha
12:30:39 <Katie> Most trailers have detectors that detect a few different gases. But test it.
12:30:43 <Eric> Poor Craig
12:30:49 <ynpvisitor81> It is not CO2, it is CO. And I would rather have a gas leak detector combo
12:30:49 <Dave from B™> Our dogs finally love the van:)
12:31:35 <ynpvisitor81> They eat the stuffing out of the seats?
12:31:41 <ynpvisitor100> did you add bacon scented air freshener Dave?
12:31:52 <Dave from B™>
12:32:07 <Eric> C3H8
12:32:23 <Dave from B™> They settled down and took naps in between short walks around picnic areas
12:32:46 <Dave from B™> We left them alone on 3 short jaunts
12:32:52 <ynpvisitor100> Eric, is that R2D2's cousin
12:32:59 <CraigC> ;)
12:33:05 <Dave from B™> BTW, Upper Brink rehab work is done at Canyon. Looks nice
12:33:06 <Eric> C3P0s :-P
12:33:11 <ynpvisitor81> No C2PO's sister.
12:33:29 <CraigC> nerds
12:33:38 <ynpvisitor100> hehe
12:33:55 <CraigC> the irony of me saying that
12:34:02 <ynpvisitor81> Just what the world needs, a stuck up society female robot.
12:34:10 <ynpvisitor100> well hope someone finds bee soon
12:34:31 <Eric> Nice Dave, watched them working on that last summer.
12:34:38 <CraigC> ynpvisitor81, reminds me of the female robot in Bicentennial Man
12:35:11 <Lori S> ynpvisitor100, If anyone can it's Korben ;0
12:35:19 <Lori S> oops :)
12:35:40 <Lori S> * :)
12:35:43 <Dave from B™> I finally walked over the opld bridge near the Upper Brink. I need to do some digging to see when it was built
12:35:43 <CraigC> where are the Pump entries?
12:35:58 <ynpvisitor100> out of gas
12:36:00 <ynpvisitor81> Didn't you read the news? The supper volcano is dying. And the bees got carried away in the treasure chest.
12:36:42 <CraigC> Fake News
12:36:47 <CraigC> all of it
12:36:53 <CraigC> and YNR, too
12:37:09 <Ryan> While Tantalus has yet to update my tinfoil hat is staying on
12:37:16 <Ryan> ;)
12:37:56 <ynpvisitor81> Well, Fenn said he has proof it was found, unless he made it all up?
12:38:00 <Ryan> Just updated for 12:30. No SB. WTF is that!?
12:38:34 <CraigC> ynpvisitor81, I am about 80/20 on believing and not
12:39:43 <Eric> I wonder if people can sue him for fraud if it was made up?
12:39:57 <Eric> People have spent $$ trying to find his treasure.
12:40:12 <Jeff> im sure people would still try if it comes out as a hoax
12:40:14 <ynpvisitor81> Well, now people can get to real treasure hunting like the blue bucket and lost dutchman.
12:40:16 <CraigC> maybe there was never any treasure hidden, and he sold lots of books, then decided to say some nameless guy from back east found it.... bye everyone, thanks for playing
12:40:58 <Eric> Yep, true fraud...reminds me of a New York huckster!
12:41:00 <ynpvisitor81> Did,t it say he wants the mystery to continue?
12:41:52 <ynpvisitor81> Who was calling for Pump?
12:41:56 <Eric> Still bummed I didn't get to hike the uncle Tom's trail :-(
12:42:23 <CraigC> ynpvisitor81, coop said he was going to sit at pump for a couple of hours
12:42:25 <Eric> Nice steam coming out of BH
12:42:27 <ynpvisitor81> Well, go and look for the note saying Fenn was here.
12:43:44 <Kent> Seismo really interesting. I am loving this. Road work?
12:44:03 <CraigC> hey Kent
12:44:13 <Kent> Hey C.
12:44:23 <ynpvisitor81> I get a bang out of the people looking for the geo cache at my neighbors house. They will stand there looking with their hand on it never knowing.
12:44:31 <ynpvisitor90> It's also on a nearby seismo here:
12:44:32 <CraigC> what if YNR became sentient..... and..... well, knows about YNM's relevance
12:44:55 <Ryan> where is that?
12:45:01 <Kent> Do we know what hammened to YNM
12:45:13 <CraigC> power out
12:45:19 <Kent> Thanks
12:46:10 <ynpvisitor90> It's very close to YNR.
12:46:13 <ynpvisitor81> Well, enjoy.
12:46:16 <CraigC> bison enters stage right
12:48:37 <ynpvisitor57> whooo
12:59:07 <KevinS> CraigC, No post for SB?
12:59:26 <Ryan> My turn to be the class clown
12:59:51 <Katie> The dead horse has been flogged enough
13:00:03 <Dave from B™> subject:)
13:00:26 <Dave from B™> Katie, I saw 7 Harlequin Ducks at LeHardy Rapids
13:00:46 <Eric> Nice...anyone seen the swan yet this year?
13:00:57 <Lori S> THE swan?
13:01:06 <KevinS> Bore hole 945 has the same signiture as YNR
13:01:13 <Dave from B™> At Swan Lake?
13:01:17 <Kent> Just geese and ducks and otters
13:01:21 <Ryan> KevinS, in basin report that steamboat has not erupted
13:01:51 <CraigC> KevinS, LOL :)
13:01:57 <JarnoO> I've got two spectrograms for you - YNR HHZ WY 01 from May 8 @ 0733Z (that day SB erupted) and the same band from YNR today, where SB didn't erupt. May 8:, today:
13:02:06 <JarnoO> note the difference between them
13:02:14 <Lori S> Ryan, If you happen to communicate with Will before he gets to Norris...could u ask him to check Ledge?
13:02:26 <Katie> I think I'll be driving most of the way Thursday. I'll camp somewhere west of West. Then into the Park early Friday morning. And figure out where to camp outside Fri & Sat nights.
13:02:40 <Ryan> Done, Lori
13:02:58 <JarnoO> Aurum static
13:03:02 <Dave from B™> Katie, there are 4 dispursed sights on Jardine Road
13:03:02 <JarnoO> 1301 frame
13:03:06 <Lori S> Ryan, Thx and Cistern's overflow status
13:03:26 <Kent> Looks good Jarno:thumbsup:
13:05:05 <JarnoO> by the way, the program with which I rendered the seismograms, is called S.W.A.R.M., through which you can visualize seismic traces
13:05:21 <Ryan> Need permission JarnoO
13:05:58 <Eric> Jarno, your links fail...need to make them public
13:06:01 <JarnoO> oh, darn
13:06:17 <JarnoO> Google changed the way it handles viewing permissions apparantly
13:06:56 <JarnoO> spectrogram 1 (SB eruption):
13:07:17 <JarnoO> spectrogram 2 (false positive):
13:07:31 <JarnoO> these should^TM work
13:07:58 <Ryan> Woah.
13:08:01 <Ryan> Nicely done, JarnoO
13:08:31 <Dave from B™> And, there we go. Science wins again
13:08:40 <Ryan> What does the last YNR trace look like?
13:08:49 <Ryan> 5/31?
13:08:51 <JarnoO> it's a pain to set up, but once you got it running, you have to do little to it
13:09:10 <JarnoO> I'll take a look, Ryan
13:09:36 <JarnoO> in case you want to play with Swarm as well:
13:10:11 <Eric> I would be curious if any of the other bands showed more distinction.
13:11:20 <ynpvisitor7> it would be interesting to see if there is any similar (no doubt much smaller) difference in the hour or so pre-eruption
13:11:46 <Eric> sorry, not bands, but axis
13:14:18 <JarnoO> technically the bands are axis as well - I recall HHE is for the east-west offset and HHN for the north-south offset. HHZ is then, obviously, the height offset
13:14:43 <JarnoO> though don't put money on that. Ask fishynp for what they exactly are
13:15:49 <Eric> yep, I think you are correct
13:16:23 <Eric> So it would be interesting to see if the E/W shake is more pronounced for an actualy SB eruption
13:17:53 <Eric> I don't remember the url for their api page?
13:20:04 <JarnoO> Riverside ie
13:22:49 <Ryan> where is 7 mile bridge?
13:23:04 <Katie> 7 miles east of West
13:23:21 <Ryan> into the park?
13:23:25 <Ryan> Thats where will is
13:23:26 <Eric> castle
13:23:31 <Eric> ie
13:23:33 <Katie> Yes, between West and Madison
13:24:02 <Ryan> Cool. Keeping my fingers crossed
13:24:02 <Lori S> Ryan, last wifi before Norris from that direction
13:24:11 <JarnoO> This is Steamboat's 0623 eruption as seen on YNR HHZ:
13:24:49 <Lori S> I shouldve said last signal period even for texting
13:24:52 <Dave from B™> We were getting texts in places that we were unable to before...even in Hayden Valley
13:25:02 <Ryan> Got it
13:25:07 <Lori S> Dave from B™, oh, cool
13:25:12 <Ryan> JarnoO that trace looks wonky too
13:25:50 <Eric> You have AT&T Dave?
13:26:04 <Eric> Might be the upgrades on Washburn.
13:26:10 <Ryan> I wont breath until its 14:15 and SB hasnt yet erupted
13:26:36 <Lori S> i didhave a text send to bob just s of norris before elk park last week
13:28:53 <CraigC> hahahaha
13:30:11 <JarnoO> This is 0623 on May 31, HHE band:
13:31:53 <Dave from B™> I have Verizon
13:32:47 <ynpvisitor36> It’s cell service, not WiFi. Why isn’t KC at SB?
13:33:12 <JarnoO> Ryan, if you want more wonky traces - this is the HHE source data:
13:33:24 <Ryan> YEAH Lori. Cell service. Jeez.
13:33:38 <Ryan> oh, ok
13:34:49 <ynpvisitor30> KC should go to SB ASAP
13:35:15 <ynpvisitor36> I thought that was the goal of his visit
13:35:22 <Eric> Maybe his prediction algorithm told him it wasn't going today?
13:35:39 <Lori S> Ryan, ceLL seRVicE
13:35:46 <Eric> It would be right so far :-P
13:36:16 <Dave from B™> If he doesn't go today, he will miss SB
13:36:33 <Lori S> The goal of his visit was to see geysers. Doing pretty good so far. :)
13:36:44 <Ryan> Something something horse...
13:36:51 <Ryan> Something something water?
13:36:56 <Ryan> something something not drinking?
13:37:02 <CraigC> I asked cooper earlier what his prediction was, he said "When I am not there".... our boy is getting a sense of humor
13:37:17 <Eric> and getting realistic :-P
13:38:06 <CraigC> but I would be there, and not leaving until it erupted..... unless it lasted 3 days of not
13:38:19 <Ryan> I am getting heart palpitations worrying for Will
13:38:32 <Eric> why?
13:38:44 <Eric> We have 2 more days until SB :-P
13:38:46 <Ryan> He hasnt seen it yet. He's been screwed over for two years now.
13:39:01 <Ryan> He is just now getting to Norris.
13:39:16 <Ryan> He slept through alarms this morning and drove down after the false alarm.
13:39:19 <CraigC> I start hallucinating on the 3rd day
13:39:28 <Lori S> Question. How long was it between YNR false 1 and YNR false 2?
13:39:54 <Ryan> I dont usually approve of people hinging their mental health on geyser eruptions, but the boy needs it badly...
13:39:58 <Lori S> I mean from the other day to today
13:40:04 <CraigC> Lori S, my false YNR is on FB GG group
13:40:18 <Ryan> So is mine :lol:
13:40:34 <Lori S> Haha. I downloaded Craig's. How soon I forget
13:41:46 <Lori S> Tantalus just updated again Ryan
13:42:33 <GO STEAMBOAT> hello
13:42:42 <JarnoO> afternoon Graham
13:42:43 <GO STEAMBOAT> did I miss anything today? snow?
13:42:56 <Dave from B™> You missed 2 SB's in 1 day
13:43:42 <CraigC> ;)
13:43:49 <Ryan> NGL, if another trace like that pops up I'll post a third.
13:43:57 <GO STEAMBOAT> wow, so 99 and 100?
13:44:13 <GO STEAMBOAT> I only see one on the seismo
13:44:24 <Ryan> Way I see it is if you have three possible YNR traces 2ish hours apart that Tantalus would likely confirm one of them.
13:44:38 <GO STEAMBOAT> or jackhammer or something
13:44:42 <Lori S> GO STEAMBOAT, Hi Graham
13:44:46 <Ryan> Its buried in there, G, but one trace begins again around 1030
13:45:17 <GO STEAMBOAT> or just restarts
13:45:41 <Eric> West Yellowstone needs to start geyser days! A ficticious holiday that helps them attract geyser enthusiasts world wide.
13:45:47 <Lori S> GO STEAMBOAT, and Fenn's treasure was foud
13:45:58 <Ryan> Will should be around Elk Park now.
13:45:59 <Lori S> found
13:46:04 <GO STEAMBOAT> lots of uneventful notes ...... i wonder if its improed? sounded promising last night
13:46:08 <Ryan> He was at 7mi bridge twenty five minutes ago
13:46:15 <Eric> Geyser parades, Geyser beer gardens, Geyser ????
13:46:24 <CraigC> Geyser Geeks
13:46:42 <Lori S> Eric, If it makes big money it will happen eventually her LOL
13:46:48 <Lori S> here
13:46:51 <GO STEAMBOAT> i read they will have 4th July Fireworks in West
13:46:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> and a parade
13:47:30 <Lori S> GO STEAMBOAT, I plan to be far away at a USFS cabin for the 4th. My luck and I will finally go back to work then
13:47:45 <Eric> I love a small town in Idaho, Wallace. They have a different celebration every weekend of the summer.
13:48:21 <Dave from B™> Yep. I saw the Center of Universe parade last year!
13:48:21 <Eric> Huckleberries, Accordians, .....
13:48:22 <GO STEAMBOAT> good for you Lori
13:48:38 <GO STEAMBOAT> wow that seismo is messing with us
13:48:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> hope will gets lucky. How many days does he have at Norris?
13:49:14 <Ryan> From now until about 1900 local time
13:49:26 <Ryan> He has a really hard time getting down there between his job and school
13:49:42 <Ryan> So he basically has a 5-7 hr window.
13:49:42 <GO STEAMBOAT> oh, not long then ... hope he doesnt get rain wet
13:50:56 <Ryan> The Sputs are, in some ways, in a weird relationship involving all of us. I can legit say we have felt joy and pain for each other because of SB just like one would for a loved one.
13:51:09 <GO STEAMBOAT> radar doesnt look bad
13:51:11 <Ryan> Very, very, close bonds.
13:52:02 <Ryan> When Micah kept missing SB it was killing the rest of us...
13:52:04 <GO STEAMBOAT> a lot of us have felt joy and sadness for others around SB and other hard to catch geysers
13:52:37 <GO STEAMBOAT> Tara and the alLedged geyser
13:52:41 <Ryan> Well I cant sayu I have had anxiety attacks for anyone outside of the Sputs...
13:52:57 <GO STEAMBOAT> Pat, Stacie and others with SB
13:53:02 <Ryan> I'd say I had ones for Tara but we both saw our first one at the same time haha
13:53:30 <Ryan> Oh yes, I wish them all to see it, and feel bad when they dont. But its not the magnitude to which I feel it for the Sputs.
13:55:27 <Ryan> There is only one person outside of the Sputs I have felt the same level of pain for when they didn't get to see it - and thats a topic not for here.
14:01:43 <JarnoO> 3m40s for this OF. Am expecting a shorter interval, maybe even ninja mode for the next eruption
14:01:57 <Katie> thanks. I'll keep that in mind
14:02:02 <Katie> (or try to)
14:05:14 <Ryan> Adios everyone. Enjoy Fake News YNR
14:05:23 <JarnoO> cya Ryan
14:06:30 <Lori S> Bye Ryan. Hope Will gets it.
14:14:21 <Lori S> oh look, another sb minor :p
14:18:36 <Dave from B™> Everyone, SHUT YOUR YNR window:)
14:18:52 <Katie> yes, sir. I comply
14:19:13 <Dave from B™> Nothing like beating a dead horse
14:19:19 <JarnoO> I prefer living on the edge. I have two windows with YNR open
14:19:34 <Kent> :)
14:19:43 <JarnoO> Imma keep beatin' it till it surrenders :D
14:20:33 <Jake> YNR confirmed: 500 foot SB eruption
14:20:43 <JarnoO> haha
14:21:17 <GO STEAMBOAT> yes but ... what was the duration, how many bursts?
14:21:24 <Dave from B™> via satellite phone?:)
14:21:39 <Eric> Dave's Fault!
14:22:01 <ynpvisitor96> Life is so simple on the simple page. No need to worry about geysers you can not see. Now if I could just get a senseless chatter filter.
14:22:24 <Eric> uhh, you might be talking to yourself then 96 :-P
14:22:32 <Jake> you can't tell the number of bursts from the seismo! sheesh, you people, I swear
14:22:41 <Lori S> Don't exec confirmation in Craig's mailbox. It's on the ground
14:22:42 <Jake> only the height of the eruption column
14:22:49 <Eric> and even that might get filtered out
14:23:19 <GO STEAMBOAT> Craig says you can predict the next eruption time based on the YNR trace .. honest ...
14:23:26 <Eric> Here ya go, geyser chat that filters the nonsense!
14:23:57 <Lori S> Eric, hehe
14:24:01 <Eric> Graham says just enter SB eruptions into GT if you have a feeling it erupted!
14:24:14 <JarnoO> Daisy
14:24:40 <Lori S> Eric, oh, I'd be busy
14:24:54 <Eric> Just make sure to use the ? Lori
14:25:03 <Lori S> ROFL
14:25:21 <GO STEAMBOAT> yes, and use A and ? interchangeably
14:25:28 <Eric> Or if you ask your magic 8 ball, make the note about it.
14:25:48 <Eric> seems about as legit as YNR now :-P
14:26:01 <Lori S> A note can be for anything. I read that here earlier
14:26:51 <GO STEAMBOAT> adopt the warnock timing rules, isnt it roundin to the nearest 5 minutes, or was it 15?
14:27:12 <GO STEAMBOAT> Korben asnt entered many notes ... yet
14:27:15 <Jake> I have to go back and read the log to get people's opinions on what to enter vs not. It has implications for how we modify GT going forward.
14:27:37 <ynpvisitor30> Zombies seen heading for Morninglory
14:27:38 <Eric> People like cat pictures!
14:27:51 <Eric> I vote more cat pictures on GT!
14:28:08 <Jake> There are many considerations to entering Steamboat from YNR. There's a dual purpose to GT, real-time information and alert system for immediate geyser gazing needs and long-term record of geyser observations
14:28:11 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, who cares about geyser pictures, more cats
14:28:16 <Dave from B™> Castle has new benches!
14:28:18 <Lori S> NOTE: Bigfoot sighted at...
14:28:35 <Eric> See, other people want that too!
14:28:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> who is this Jake person, sounding all serious?
14:28:43 <Jake> entering SB quickly based on YNR is for people in group 1
14:28:44 <GO STEAMBOAT> can we ban him?
14:28:59 <JarnoO> photo contest results are in. Two-way tie for Great Fountain's picture
14:29:01 <Eric> Hey, we have a place near us that now Guarantees a bigfoot sighting if you go on a tour with them!
14:29:29 <GO STEAMBOAT> i didnt vote, do i have veto power?
14:29:40 <JarnoO> don't think so, Graham :P
14:29:50 <GO STEAMBOAT> is that just around your garden Eric?
14:29:51 <Dave from B™> Exactly, Jake. Why else would someone post that Tilt's Baby is empty?
14:30:29 <Lori S> Looks like Korben's been hanging at Daisy for a bit
14:30:38 <Jake> because they are thorough?
14:30:46 <JarnoO> 11 and 10 votes for Riverside's two pictures
14:31:04 <ynpvisitor30> Waiting for Splended perhaps.
14:31:10 <Dave from B™> Because some gazers are happy when other gazers catch something they can't
14:32:34 <CraigC> dang, I had to go do stuff.... why were you guys having senseless chat without me
14:33:15 <Dave from B™> Because 96 asked us to?:)
14:33:24 <JarnoO> because we couldn't cor...less. I'll show myself the door
14:33:33 <Lori S> *spits out coffee*
14:34:00 <CraigC> LOL
14:34:21 <CraigC> you people need to grow the hell up
14:34:32 <Lori S> CraigC, next time we will put a note on GT that we are having such a conversation on chat. To alert you.
14:34:51 <CraigC> hahahaha
14:35:33 <CraigC> is there such a thing as a questionable note?
14:35:42 <Dave from B™> How about a personal invitation to CraigC to join chat?
14:35:58 <CraigC> I will need a duration, in seconds
14:36:07 <Kent> I was wondering if you can flag a note?
14:36:18 <JarnoO> you can flag a note
14:36:58 <Kent> Shoot. I was going to do politics and puppy videos :(
14:38:22 <ynpvisitor96> I think you should enter SB with a ns and E time.
14:38:26 <CraigC> would the people sitting at Steamboat want an entry letting them know that the Webcam is Troubled
14:39:16 <Dave from B™> I love this cam but I miss being able to see more terrirtory
14:39:36 <CraigC> like Louisiana?
14:40:03 <ynpvisitor30> It does prevent North Goggles frenzy.
14:40:31 <ynpvisitor96> Louisiana was a purchase, not a territory.
14:41:17 <CraigC> dang, that is twice I embarrassed myself in the last day
14:41:34 <Dave from B™> hahahahahaha
14:41:47 <Lori S> has lost it
14:42:01 <Dave from B™> Actually, I think it is also a territory
14:42:03 <Dave from B™> was*
14:43:55 <Forestbewithyou> Hi all
14:44:01 <CraigC> hi one
14:44:18 <ynpvisitor96> Sorry, yes it was by congressional order.
14:45:01 <CraigC> good think coope rdidn;t go to try and see Steamboat, he would never have caught that LC
14:45:45 <Kent> I'm going to go now...
14:45:49 <Forestbewithyou> yea
14:45:58 <Forestbewithyou> bye Kent
14:46:00 <CraigC> cya Kent
14:46:08 <ynpvisitor96> Interesting fact is it had no part of Louisiana in it. That is why it got renamed.
14:46:13 <Dave from B™> Have fun Kent
14:47:07 <Lori S> Bye Kent
14:47:15 <ynpvisitor30> How many people can be packed onto the platform at SB ? C-19 notwithstanding
14:47:42 <CraigC> 50+?
14:47:51 <Jake> without distancing requirements? hundreds over the two platforms
14:48:12 <ynpvisitor96> Twig people, or fish monger size?
14:48:16 <JarnoO> smush 'em all together and I reckon you'll easily fit 200+ on there
14:48:57 <Jake> all dependent on the crowd, of course, most wouldn't allow being packed in
14:48:59 <Forestbewithyou> And turn them into paste we could probably fit over 1,000
14:49:00 <CraigC> if people crowd my personal space they get poked in the eye with my umbrella
14:49:12 <ynpvisitor30> Then most will complain they can't see anything. But you can hear it.
14:49:30 <Forestbewithyou> and feel it
14:49:32 <Forestbewithyou> sometimes
14:49:45 <Dave from B™> hey hey 96; I resemble that remark
14:49:51 <ynpvisitor96> Smush, like OF watchers?
14:49:57 <CraigC> Dave from B™, lol
14:50:27 <Jake> watching OF, you almost always have an exit, SB could get bad
14:50:32 <Dave from B™> Jarno, definitely not 200
14:50:39 <ynpvisitor96> Dave, you are a twig?
14:50:50 <Jake> but I haven't been there when people are waiting so I don't know what it's like
14:51:01 <Lori S> Well, if each person held someone seated on their shoulders...
14:51:18 <Dave from B™> 96, no longer a twig
14:51:46 <Forestbewithyou> well hello there korben
14:51:55 <KorbenC> Have about 5 minutes
14:51:59 <Forestbewithyou> shouldn't you be watching geysers?
14:52:00 <Lori S> Hi Korben
14:52:09 <KorbenC> My dad is checking us into our cabin
14:52:16 <Forestbewithyou> oh ok
14:52:17 <Forestbewithyou> lol
14:52:17 <Jake> I've been in a bar that I would've called "packed' with people had nothing happened, but when someone starting moving through the crowd with (fake) feces on their hands, I couldn't believe the amount of space that was suddenly available!
14:52:43 <KorbenC> We are gonna unpack the car... Heat to geyser hill, go watch Grand, and head to GF
14:52:48 <Lori S> Jake, Don't gie Craig any ideas for SB
14:52:49 <Forestbewithyou> lol
14:52:51 <ynpvisitor96> You have been ib the Mint in Sheridan?
14:52:52 <Forestbewithyou> yea
14:52:54 <ynpvisitor30> Antisocial distancing.
14:52:56 <Forestbewithyou> I agree with Lori
14:53:01 <Lori S> *give
14:53:05 <Dave from B™> KC, when will you be going to SB; after it erupts?
14:53:23 <KorbenC> Dave from B™, roads are not very nice:)
14:53:24 <Forestbewithyou> yea Korben?
14:53:30 <Forestbewithyou> ahh
14:53:37 <Dave from B™> icy?
14:53:39 <Forestbewithyou> thats why you need 10 wheel drive
14:53:46 <KorbenC> We keep getting sleeted on
14:54:00 <KorbenC> Slick and random patches of black ice
14:54:05 <Dave from B™> Roads should be better towards Norris; no need to go back over CraigC Pass
14:54:06 <Forestbewithyou> oh man
14:54:23 <ynpvisitor96> That is what you get coming in from Cody before August.
14:54:50 <Eric> yes, skip dinner, go norris!
14:54:57 <KorbenC> We came in from south entrance
14:55:05 <Eric> You can meet Will :-D
14:56:02 <ynpvisitor48> Road between OF and Norris is dry KC
14:57:03 <KorbenC> Lol, sure
14:57:16 <KorbenC> It is not bad, but could be better
14:57:46 <Eric> lion
14:57:49 <Eric> woot
14:57:56 <KorbenC> Yup
14:57:56 <ynpvisitor48> You cannot compare South to OF, just no comparison
14:57:59 <Forestbewithyou> Korben you should run
14:58:03 <Forestbewithyou> lol
14:58:10 <Forestbewithyou> run like the wind
14:58:18 <KorbenC> Yay
14:58:21 <KorbenC> We see it
14:58:33 <Eric> Run like Forrest Gump!
14:58:38 <Forestbewithyou> lol
14:58:42 <Forestbewithyou> not like me
14:59:01 <Forestbewithyou> I would make it about halfway there
14:59:09 <Forestbewithyou> then be out of breath from the adrenaline
14:59:09 <KorbenC> Well time to go
14:59:16 <Forestbewithyou> bye Korben
14:59:20 <JarnoO> cya Korben. Enjoy the sputs
14:59:21 <Forestbewithyou> Hope beehive behaves
14:59:25 <Lori S> Bye Korben
14:59:44 <Eric> enjoy BH
14:59:52 <Forestbewithyou> assuming it behaves
15:00:06 <Forestbewithyou> I should say beehaves
15:00:27 <Eric> Doesn't Kat live in the orlando area?
15:00:33 <Eric> Who lives in Florida here?
15:00:47 <Lori S> Yes, Kat
15:00:53 <Eric> Was wondering if that tornado last night had any impact on them.
15:01:22 <Forestbewithyou> oh yea
15:01:34 <Forestbewithyou> have we heard what the NWS rated it?
15:01:41 <Eric> Is that you by Lion Coop?
15:02:04 <Forestbewithyou> I think he left
15:02:17 <Eric> No, I have not Forest
15:02:21 <Lori S> Eric, He's over at the snowlodge
15:02:37 <Forestbewithyou> No I was talking about Korben
15:02:41 <Eric> ahhh, slacker :-P
15:03:07 <CraigC> is cooper in the light blue coat?
15:03:15 <CraigC> skipping
15:03:49 <CraigC> hey Linda
15:03:51 <Jake> playing the long con, Cooper was a 5 year old girl the whole time
15:03:56 <Lori S> Hi Linda
15:03:56 <LindaG> CraigC, hi
15:04:06 <LindaG> Lori S, hi
15:04:31 <LindaG> Did we lose 'the kid'?
15:04:34 <Lori S> Well, doggo walk time. c ya all later. Tomorrow afternoon maybe
15:04:39 <JarnoO> cya Lori
15:04:40 <Forestbewithyou> bye
15:04:49 <LindaG> Lori S, kid's?
15:05:04 <Lori S> Watch for my clogger Note later. wink wink
15:05:10 <CraigC> hahah
15:05:33 <LindaG> LindaG, chat is weird today
15:05:38 <LindaG> Lori S, bye
15:05:42 <Lori S> LindaG, he is checking in to lodging then headed back into the basin
15:05:45 <ynpvisitor45> would it be faster for Will to go via Gardiner? Too late now I guess
15:05:55 <LindaG> Lori S, ah ok
15:06:18 <Lori S> ynpvisitor45, construction in Gardiner so maybe not
15:06:20 <ynpvisitor6> Will is in Norris
15:06:27 <Lori S> OK, bye!
15:06:28 <ynpvisitor6> Went in via west
15:06:48 <ynpvisitor45> I know, I was AFK but read that he came in via west
15:07:14 <CraigC> I am pretty sure last year Will and Demetri went via West, also
15:07:30 <ynpvisitor45> well last year there was road work
15:07:43 <ynpvisitor45> Last five years...
15:08:23 <GO STEAMBOAT> i see Yosemite is opening with pre-purchased and limited passes
15:10:00 <GO STEAMBOAT> temporary until they fully pe
15:10:07 <GO STEAMBOAT> or open
15:11:34 <JarnoO> Next Lion @ 1616±5m if series continues. 7m13s, eruption start 1456:49 (first splash happened at that time and there was no ≥3s pause since the first splash happened)
15:11:38 <Ryan> im sitting in here for a SB vigil for Will
15:12:17 <GO STEAMBOAT> need him at YNR to tell us whats going on there :)
15:12:27 <JarnoO> haha
15:12:59 <GO STEAMBOAT> hes a GOSA official and should support the cause of us seismo watchers
15:13:04 <CraigC> I would go check, but then it would make a larger trace from my presence observing it
15:13:08 <GO STEAMBOAT> or maybe not
15:13:33 <Ryan> I think hes just trying to see it
15:13:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> no such thing as a passive observer
15:14:18 <Eric> I think SB already went earlier, I saw an entry on GT!
15:14:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> must be strange there not being "allowed" to socialize
15:14:42 <CraigC> Eric, my entries don't count
15:15:07 <Ryan> Not allowed to socialize?
15:15:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> is there a "no craig" finter on GT data?
15:15:25 <GO STEAMBOAT> filter
15:15:32 <GO STEAMBOAT> 6' seperation
15:15:42 <Ryan> oh
15:15:47 <GO STEAMBOAT> so yeah, you can socialize .. but not like normal
15:15:49 <Eric> Gazers just have to talk slightly louder :-P
15:15:51 <CraigC> the community inherently filters out any entries from a CraigC
15:16:10 <Eric> /ignore CraigC
15:16:18 <Eric> did that happen??
15:16:24 <GO STEAMBOAT> still probably a small gazer crowd there
15:16:27 <Eric> oops
15:16:46 <CraigC> oops this
15:16:53 <Eric> hahaha
15:17:03 <ynpvisitor72> Ryan, KorbenC here, you get my text earlier
15:17:18 <Ryan> nope
15:17:23 <ynpvisitor72> Hmm
15:17:35 <JarnoO> Korben, Lion started @ 1456, not 1457
15:17:47 <CraigC> JarnoO, flag it
15:17:55 <CraigC> I will
15:18:01 <JarnoO> nah, it can be resolved this way as well
15:18:05 <ynpvisitor72> Ok
15:18:12 <CraigC> I'm on it
15:18:30 <ynpvisitor72> Fixed
15:18:39 <JarnoO> thanks
15:18:48 <Ryan> In basin times take priority due to more accurate timing...
15:18:51 <ynpvisitor72> :thumbsup:
15:18:55 <Ryan> Regardless of direction, jusy FYI
15:19:06 <Eric> more accurate timing...hahahaha
15:19:14 <JarnoO> it depends :P
15:19:50 <Ryan> Mmmk.
15:20:10 <ynpvisitor72> Ok, I will wave from lion in 30 me ns
15:20:31 <Ryan> Jst note I'd never change an inbasin start time by one minute because of a webcam observation - in either direction
15:21:05 <Ryan> Way too much error on the webcam timing to justify changing an in basin observation by a minute.
15:21:10 <Eric> Pretty known fact, webcam cannot see into the future :-P
15:21:32 <Jake> here is a graphical representation of positive COVID in Utah over time since March 2020: ____/^
15:21:42 <Ryan> Or the camera time stamp is wrong. :)
15:21:47 <GO STEAMBOAT> depends how goodthe clock is Eric
15:21:53 <Dave from B™> No copnstruction around Gardiner yet but I know the bridge in town will have delays atrting next week, I bweliieve
15:21:54 <Eric> If the webcam time is before inbasin time, it's not a problem of the webcam view :-P But could be error on inbasin or observers entry.
15:22:14 <GO STEAMBOAT> some in park times are early and some late
15:22:19 <Eric> phone and most computer clocks are atomic synced.
15:22:46 <Eric> but you can have bad clocks in either location, the webcam view has no affect on that.
15:22:49 <Jake> still takes a human to interpret and enter correctly and that process can fail
15:22:52 <GO STEAMBOAT> some of us forget them tho
15:23:00 <Ryan> This is why the in basin people have problems with the webcam people.
15:23:00 <Jake> eliminate all humans!
15:23:08 <GO STEAMBOAT> or battery dies
15:23:26 <CraigC> davetype is back
15:23:29 <Ryan> Just as an fyi. I can totally see people being annoyed because big brother told them their entry was off by a minute
15:23:47 <GO STEAMBOAT> dont make this an us vs them thing Ryan ... never know where that might lead :)
15:23:54 <Eric> Yes, I am just saying that the odds of a bad WC entry being an observational issue if before an in basin time are almost none.
15:24:19 <Eric> Only thing the webcam can do is DELAY your viewing of it.
15:24:20 <Ryan> I am only pointing out that this is an example of why some people do not like the webcam - is all.
15:24:40 <Eric> Well, some people vote republican too :-P I can't solve all the problems.
15:24:45 <ynpvisitor3> I don't think the issue is with the webcam per se
15:25:29 <GO STEAMBOAT> i have sat in basin and heard many incorrect times called and some logged. "oh when was that .... um .... 1021 i think"
15:25:42 <Ryan> <-- LGBT registered Republican here. How's that for confusing ;)
15:25:46 <GO STEAMBOAT> not a real problem but it des happen sometimes
15:26:14 <GO STEAMBOAT> or you turn around and see Daisy and thik you saw the start .. maybe the cam was on it all the time and saw the start.
15:26:15 <Eric> Thats alright...most republicans in Kentucky are registered Democrats, but always vote republican.
15:26:36 <GO STEAMBOAT> all sorts of errors can get into the data, but overall its great from in-park and from web
15:26:47 <Ryan> Or the webcam sees an indicator that isnt really there ;)
15:27:00 <Eric> Yes, many problems, I was just stating that webcam early times are much more unlikely :-P
15:27:08 <GO STEAMBOAT> or by the time i get my phone out, its the next minute
15:27:11 <Dave from B™> Alright. time to get out of here. Have a good evening everyone.
15:27:15 <JarnoO> cya Dave
15:27:17 <Eric> Night Dave
15:27:24 <GO STEAMBOAT> bye Dave
15:27:29 <GO STEAMBOAT> good luck heading to SB
15:27:34 <Forestbewithyou> Bye Dave
15:27:40 <CraigC> cya Dave, did you check with coope rto see if it is really time to leave, or maybe your clock is off
15:27:47 <Dave from B™> haha. I wuld love to go tomorrow but work is chaos right now
15:27:56 <Dave from B™> :D
15:28:37 <Ryan> Just dont act all indignant during the next edition of the Heinrich Blogs. :P
15:28:51 <JarnoO> haha
15:29:41 <Eric> Ya, I don't read that Blog.
15:29:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> did HK blog on the last trip, i didnt look
15:29:55 <GO STEAMBOAT> i saw Suzannes video was posted
15:30:05 <Ryan> OH OH OH
15:30:13 <Ryan> Boy howdy did he blog Graham
15:30:19 <JarnoO> speaking of which, he has uploaded a video of the surroundings of Steamboat this spring
15:30:20 <Dave from B™> Another SB eruption today, Ryan?
15:30:23 <Ryan> Go check his June commentaries haha
15:30:41 <GO STEAMBOAT> ok, nice. always good for a laugh when he goes on a rant
15:30:51 <Ryan> I thought it was hysterical
15:31:02 <Ryan> I wanna know who the L5GGG is here...
15:31:32 <Eric> oh is he talking about that chat on it?
15:31:43 <Ryan> yup
15:32:20 <Ryan> I will let someone else put that bomb in here. It was my honor to throw the grenade last time.
15:37:40 <ynpvisitor34> KorbenC here
15:37:44 <ynpvisitor34> At aurum
15:37:57 <ynpvisitor34> Point the cam and we will wave
15:38:06 <GO STEAMBOAT> what does it look like at 2.5h?
15:38:20 <ynpvisitor34> Not much
15:38:33 <ynpvisitor34> Occasionally surging in it's cone
15:38:34 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, its early
15:38:45 <ynpvisitor34> Is cam point Ed at us
15:38:49 <GO STEAMBOAT> checked in?
15:38:55 <ynpvisitor34> Yup
15:38:59 <CraigC> wave
15:38:59 <Forestbewithyou> you guys look like ants
15:39:08 <GO STEAMBOAT> its on wide ange
15:39:17 <ynpvisitor34> There i waved
15:39:29 <CraigC> I waved back, did you see me
15:39:34 <Forestbewithyou> lol
15:39:43 <ynpvisitor34> Nope
15:39:48 <CraigC> now?
15:39:56 <Jake> hardly any ranting in the HK blog. I want my money back
15:40:00 <CraigC> I'm in a purple muumuu
15:40:08 <ynpvisitor34> Well, off to pump
15:40:12 <GO STEAMBOAT> the kinder gentler HK?
15:40:30 <Eric> Yep, pretty weak rants...I have seen way better from him.
15:41:16 <Jake> I came in expecting Lewis Black and got Jim Gaffigan
15:42:11 <GO STEAMBOAT> so hes not going to get a job on a TV "newsertainment" show?
15:43:34 <Jake> Point / Counterpoint: Pump Geyser is not worth reporting / Is too! *End scene*
15:43:59 <ynpvisitor3> he was posting Spasmodic and things to mock it
15:44:02 <CraigC> IMO, if anyone has any issue with HK, then they should talk to HK about it
15:44:24 <Eric> Hold up...he just ranted on a public blog about us!
15:44:27 <Jake> probably best to communicate with him through GT notes
15:44:40 <CraigC> still..... right is right
15:44:48 <CraigC> not, well, he did it first
15:45:05 <Ryan> You dont talk to HK about issues with him
15:45:18 <Eric> Is that the first rule of Geyser Club?
15:45:21 <JarnoO> evening Betty
15:45:22 <Betty> afternoon all
15:45:26 <CraigC> hye Betty
15:45:29 <Ryan> You either ignore him or make steps up to his level of gazing
15:45:29 <Eric> Hi Betty
15:45:34 <Betty> evening JarnoO
15:45:49 <Betty> hi Eric, CraigC, Ryan
15:45:58 <ynpvisitor3> why do people spend money on NA beer?
15:46:03 <Katie> I had this almost interest in asking what this is all about (HK and blog post and issues) and then decided I probably don't care
15:46:23 <CraigC> Katie, good stance
15:46:23 <Eric> Good Call Katie, I always said you are the smart one here!
15:46:28 <Ryan> ynpvisitor3, because I am two year recovering alcoholic and I like the taste of finely brewed hops
15:46:33 <GO STEAMBOAT> and there was me thinking Heinrick was enjoying the little geysers ... sigh .... image shattered
15:46:42 <CraigC> I should have decided that moments ago
15:46:54 <ynpvisitor3> mock, mock, mock, he is the best at it
15:47:03 <Ryan> ynpvisitor3, yup
15:47:26 <GO STEAMBOAT> sounds liek he doesnt understand the GT merging rules, oh well
15:47:27 <Eric> Pump!
15:47:34 <GO STEAMBOAT> maybe they look different in his app?
15:47:49 <Eric> His app ignores all entries but his own I am sure :-P
15:47:55 <Ryan> He has more than enough credentials to pass judgement on the quality of collected data
15:48:31 <CraigC> it still isnt right to talk in here about him
15:48:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> but all he said was it merged in a way he didnt like ..... i wonder why that was?
15:48:31 <Ryan> Actually his app shows everything.
15:48:50 <Ryan> CraigC, in mocking and condescending ways, absolutely.
15:48:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> ok, so maybe thats why he gets frustrated by more data being entered
15:48:59 <Ryan> None of you would ever say that to him in person.
15:49:06 <GO STEAMBOAT> we would too if GT didnt merge it
15:49:44 <Ryan> Its the final presentation of it. Why post such thorough data if people wont see it?
15:49:55 <GO STEAMBOAT> too many lines for me to connect your comment to Ryan
15:50:01 <Betty> hi Graham
15:50:42 <GO STEAMBOAT> HK in-park time would take precident over a web time, right?
15:50:47 <GO STEAMBOAT> hi Betty
15:51:02 <GO STEAMBOAT> but not over other in-park start times if they get in first
15:51:04 <Ryan> Its ok Graham, you just dont understand how the lines merged ;)
15:51:21 <GO STEAMBOAT> Same issue can happen at Ftn or other places if someone has more data to log
15:51:41 <GO STEAMBOAT> ok, i can believe that if theres no info on it :)
15:51:41 <Ryan> That in part is his issue.
15:52:07 <Ryan> The other issue is the data gathered by some webcam gazers is, correctly so, just noise.
15:52:10 <GO STEAMBOAT> I have asked people to delete their promary entries if i have more data in my entry
15:52:19 <GO STEAMBOAT> so its easier to read
15:52:31 <CraigC> <--- people
15:52:41 <Betty> lol
15:52:49 <GO STEAMBOAT> and I have posted Approximate times at Ftn to make sure Lynns time will get in as primary
15:52:50 <Eric> We are working on improving GT, soon all entries will be merged based on users height.
15:52:52 <Ryan> <-- people
15:52:56 <GO STEAMBOAT> haha yes, you were one Craig :)
15:53:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> hey, i did call the start too
15:53:24 <JarnoO> user's height? How does that work?
15:53:46 <CraigC> Eric wins over everyone else
15:53:49 <Eric> Well, you will be required to use our new laser leveling height measurement system before you can enter a geyser entry.
15:53:50 <JarnoO> haha
15:53:58 <Forestbewithyou> I was wondering the same
15:54:02 <GO STEAMBOAT> nnot if he is sitting down and Craig stands on the bench
15:54:02 <Ryan> Look all I am saying is that I am hard pressed to disagree with HK on his assessments of data quality.
15:54:03 <CraigC> Erichewbacca
15:54:06 <Eric> Sorry short people!
15:54:27 <Jake> short people can't see as well so their observations are less important
15:54:37 <Eric> It was the only equitable way to make sure that entries had important priorities
15:54:37 <CraigC> ouch
15:54:44 <Ryan> He has more experience and more published articles than every named person in this chat room combined. Probably times 5.
15:54:54 <Jake> need to save this stuff for April 1
15:54:59 <Forestbewithyou> well then I am glad that I am no longer as short as I was in 2018 and 2019
15:55:08 <Eric> :-D
15:55:10 <ynpvisitor45> :thumbsup:
15:55:11 <GO STEAMBOAT> I agree his data is high quality. if a web time got primary over his - there are ways that can happen but limited
15:55:11 <Forestbewithyou> :)
15:55:24 <CraigC> Jake, how about 12/25, so it can be wrapped and opened
15:55:26 <Ryan> I may as well delete my account all together if we go by height
15:55:42 <Eric> Other than his Grand/Turban Stuff that is jumbled up in the entry...which doesn't do us any good :-(
15:55:55 <GO STEAMBOAT> i am at sea level, so you all are beating me on height
15:55:55 <Forestbewithyou> Here is an idea. What if it were to group all the information under the same eruption so like if there was 2 in basin reports with different info both show up when you pull up the eruption
15:56:01 <Eric> You will still beat coopers entries Ryan
15:56:53 <Ryan> I think the onus there is on GT to make a better Grand/Turban system. I think shes entering that data as best he can given what he has.
15:56:58 <JarnoO> Graham would beat me. I'm at 1 meter below NAP (I think that corresponds to 1 meter/3 feet below sea level)
15:57:05 <Eric> We are working toward improvements Forest.
15:57:07 <Ryan> Its like entering F&M cycle and Giant Hot Period data.
15:57:13 <GO STEAMBOAT> i have heard some people suggest not to post Grand from webcam if there will be an in-park report, but others that say post it as if they see a time they may go to watch it on the cam or in-park
15:57:16 <Ryan> Its all a cluster.
15:57:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, you win that one JarnoO unless someone goes to death valley
15:57:45 <Ryan> These talks are good though.
15:57:58 <Forestbewithyou> I understand I was just throwing out a possible idea
15:58:22 <Eric> Yep and it's a good one!
15:58:28 <Forestbewithyou> Thanks!
15:58:32 <Ryan> Its how a consensus can be reached. To some extent, GT is an entirely novel system and everyone from me to HK to newbies needs to adjust to a common standard. I just put more weight on HK's ideas than most others.
15:59:11 <LindaG> I came in last
15:59:51 <CraigC> LindaG, last in what
16:00:05 <LindaG> Height
16:00:15 <CraigC> that was 10 mins ago
16:00:24 <LindaG> So
16:00:29 <Eric> I would take reverse alpha too for priority order!
16:00:44 <Eric> Sorry if your last name starts with an A
16:00:57 <Jake> I miss the old conversations when Yellowstone Forever was getting trashed and not GT
16:01:08 <CraigC> LindaG, did it take 10 mins to proofread for no typos/ :)
16:01:17 <Ryan> We could trash our politicians...
16:01:21 <LindaG> 😋
16:01:34 <Ryan> See. GT isnt as bad now is it?
16:01:46 <JarnoO> Ryan, I don't think any trash can, including Erta Ale, would be big enough to fit the politicians into
16:01:51 <Betty> boo, Eric ;-)
16:02:06 <Jake> I'm just kidding, I think all the discussion is good
16:02:07 <LindaG> Betty, hi
16:02:13 <Ryan> How dare you suggest polluting Erta Ale in such callus manner.
16:02:30 <Betty> hi LindaG and Jake
16:03:36 <Ryan> Huh, per CNBC:
16:03:53 <Ryan>
16:03:56 <Ryan> Thats good news.
16:03:58 <Eric> Seeing pictures of people standing around lava pools near erta ale without any protective gear seems less than smart.
16:04:13 <GO STEAMBOAT> cam is locked...
16:04:27 <ynpvisitor62> how do l change my name?^&
16:04:47 <Eric> Just click on it
16:05:08 <Eric> next to the text entry box
16:05:13 <GO STEAMBOAT> lots of opinions of what GT should do, and lots of different uses for it, no one is more important than the other. Thanks for giving us the tool Jake and others
16:05:15 <Ryan> TLDR: WHO announces that follow up studies are showing that asymptomatic COVID transmission is rare.
16:05:26 <CraigC> hey Bill
16:05:35 <bbev> l want to respectfully make a suggestion
16:06:04 <GO STEAMBOAT> hello bbev
16:06:13 <bbev> There are currently plenty of eyes on SB
16:06:13 <Eric> So are people getting covid from symptomatic people? Like coughing on them directly?
16:06:41 <Katie> GO STEAMBOAT, sorry - relased
16:06:45 <Katie> *released
16:06:51 <GO STEAMBOAT> thanks
16:07:05 <bbev> about a half dozen folks have made a trip to norris to see SB post eruptive
16:07:12 <GO STEAMBOAT> hope you get to see another one Bill
16:07:20 <Eric> :thumbsup:
16:07:21 <CraigC> :(
16:07:38 <Ryan> Youre telling me it erupted this morning?
16:07:39 <Eric> Pump!
16:07:59 <ynpvisitor45> They went because of the ? entry, it sounds like
16:08:02 <bbev> rather than speculating on the other siesmo, how about waiting for in basin reports
16:08:20 <bbev> please
16:08:26 <Ryan> Hold up
16:08:28 <CraigC> bbev, sorry, I wish I could do it all over again.... I regret it now
16:08:32 <Ryan> Did SB erupt this morning?
16:08:58 <bbev> No SB yet!!!!!
16:08:59 <Eric> GT has an entry system with E & ? both pertaining to why the entry is there. Are people not seeing that?
16:09:14 <CraigC> Eric, mine wasnt a ?
16:09:31 <Ryan> You said it was post eruptive, just trying to clarify.
16:09:32 <Eric> ohhh, I just saw the E ? One when I logged in this morning.
16:10:10 <CraigC> I entered yesterday, then deleted after I saw cb's note
16:10:21 <Eric> ahh, woops.
16:10:26 <CraigC> :(
16:10:48 <Ryan> I deleted my entry, Bill... I deleted it over ten hours ago
16:11:17 <Ryan> There are two notes explicitly stating it did not erupt.
16:11:26 <Ryan> One of which is an in basin report.
16:11:52 <Eric> I think also people have gotten the clue that YNR traces are no reliable for SB eruption indicators.
16:12:22 <ynpvisitor45> Ryan he is saying it would be nice if we would wait for in basin reports since YNM is down. People wasted a trip going to see the steamphase
16:12:38 <GO STEAMBOAT> people dont understand what the ? means on an eruption
16:12:53 <Eric> Apparently it was missing on an earlier entry GS
16:12:57 <Ryan> How, in the holy name of God, can you possibly read my entries and thing it erupted?
16:13:02 <JarnoO> we're better off waiting for YNM to come back up, if we must have some seismo to rely on during the off-hours (and, obviously, in-basin reports with eyes on SB). Hasn't failed us yet with the Steamboat signature as far as I know, while YNR, well...
16:13:06 <CraigC> I understand clearly what bill is saying. It was my fault. There is no need to be in a hurry to enter for non-observed
16:13:17 <Ryan> Then yell at Craig, dont yell at me.
16:14:18 <GO STEAMBOAT> Ryan - he was responding in caps to your chat comments, not the GT posting
16:14:32 <JarnoO> root cause is probably generalization because YNR was right twice in the past few weeks, "so all other traces must be right as well" so to say
16:15:12 <GO STEAMBOAT> Bill - thank you for the reports from you and Carol
16:15:19 <CraigC> every one should take a deep breath and start over and read what bill said instead of interpreting
16:15:58 <CraigC> I own my mistake
16:16:03 <CraigC> I learned from it
16:16:09 <CraigC> I apologfize
16:16:28 <GO STEAMBOAT> and we still love you Craig :)
16:16:34 <ynpvisitor45> I think we are talking about elapsed time from 942 ? to the Note at 1105
16:16:52 <CraigC> people went there to see something that wasdnt happening because of my error
16:17:54 <Eric> Lion
16:18:17 <JarnoO> yay
16:18:19 <Jeff> hi bill and carol
16:18:22 <Jake> who are the half dozen people?
16:18:34 <Eric> Pump!
16:18:44 <ynpvisitor41> unfortunately many people arrive at Norris and treat Bill & Carol like their personal information center
16:19:21 <CraigC> Brian was one of the people that went
16:19:47 <CraigC> I got a msg from Jon at the same time as the note showed up from cb
16:21:35 <Ryan> I think, and I say this in the most polite way possible, that people should learn up on comprehension. And know what "Steamboat did not erupt" means.
16:21:53 <Ryan> That phrase, and variants of it, are PLASTERED over TWO DAYS of GT entries.
16:22:44 <ynpvisitor45> But those people saw the entry at 945ish and took off and went there.
16:23:03 <Ryan> There was a "?"
16:23:34 <Ryan> and i said in the comment that it was from YNR and needed a Tantalus confirmation - how much clearer can I get that it was a QUESTIONABLE entry?
16:23:43 <JarnoO> always assume your users/readers are the dumbest people around
16:23:59 <ynpvisitor45> yeah, from YNR, not as reliable
16:24:30 <JarnoO> anyway, I'm off. Enjoy Daisy and maybe Churn too
16:24:31 <Forestbewithyou> I am going to head out possibly for the night but I might be back. So if I am not back good night everyone
16:24:48 <Eric> Cya Forest!
16:24:56 <LindaG> Forestbewithyou, night, maybe
16:25:33 <Betty> night Forest
16:32:04 <Betty> Daisy
16:33:14 <ynpvisitor45> is Coop hoping for Bee?
16:33:37 <Betty> maybe, or for Aurum
16:39:51 <ynpvisitor34> Bug House (BH) is long overdue
16:41:49 <LindaG> ynpvisitor45, he lob
16:42:14 <LindaG> ynpvisitor45, he loves bee so I'm sure hes hoping
16:42:35 <GO STEAMBOAT> so what can we discuss now?
16:43:06 <LindaG> 😃
16:43:11 <Ryan> BeEhIvE IsNt GoInG LoNg - We MiSsEd aN ErUpTiOn...
16:43:37 <GO STEAMBOAT> i am done with GT entres, YNR, bussing, YF,
16:43:38 <Betty> Bee is dormant
16:44:10 <GO STEAMBOAT> we need false indicators
16:44:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Betty broke Bee?
16:44:29 <GO STEAMBOAT> and C2C majors
16:44:44 <Betty> sure, Kevin
16:44:54 <Eric> Why isn't Coop sitting at Pump?
16:45:03 <Eric> So many pumps to record!
16:45:24 <LindaG> We can watch the train cam 😉
16:45:32 <GO STEAMBOAT> didnt log Daisy.. maybe gone in to eat?
16:47:19 <Betty> bee iis splashy
16:47:55 <Betty> maybe a non indy eruption today?
16:48:41 <LindaG> Hope not korben wouldn't have time
16:49:49 <Ryan> Korben's phone number bounced when I tried to enter it.
16:50:01 <Ryan> At the end of the day if he wants to see Beehive he needs to be there.
16:50:46 <GO STEAMBOAT> not a very pretty day tho
16:50:57 <GO STEAMBOAT> good luck getting a height on SB :)
16:51:11 <Betty> every day in the park is a pretty day
16:51:47 <Betty> Korben loves this weather
16:52:03 <Betty> no need to be inside
16:52:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> i wonder if his dad feels the same way
16:52:27 <Betty> :-)
16:53:13 <ynpvisitor34> Sometimes pretty cold, pretty snowy, or pretty dangerous (lightning).
16:53:59 <GO STEAMBOAT> maybe have an early night and hope for a nice weather SB day tomorrow? Sorry Will
16:54:43 <Betty> wow, snow is going upwards
16:55:07 <GO STEAMBOAT> steam going left to right, rain right to left?
16:55:08 <ynpvisitor34> Welcome to Wyoming.
16:56:11 <Betty> uh ohhh
16:58:40 <Eric> SB? slight width increase in YNR
16:58:52 <Eric> around 1630
16:59:06 <Ryan> Shh, Eric we were told to be quiet
16:59:19 <Eric> You should post it Ryan!
16:59:49 <GO STEAMBOAT> where is NotCraig when we need him?
17:00:35 <ynpvisitor45> we can wait
17:01:28 <Eric> haha
17:01:50 <Ryan> I am a lot of things, Eric... but I am not whatever it is I need to be to post SB
17:02:04 <Eric> We are going to wait and now everyone will be pissed that we didn't enter it!
17:02:05 <Betty> sure, Aurum 1657
17:02:24 <Betty> during OF
17:02:34 <Eric> Uggg! Missed it by a hair
17:02:35 <GO STEAMBOAT> good for Coop
17:02:39 <ynpvisitor35> Just like when we don’t send a text alert when we see indy
17:02:46 <Eric> Yep, glad he got Aurum in person
17:03:03 <Ryan> Damned if you do, damned if you dont, damned anyways :)
17:03:45 <Eric> I blame the devil!
17:03:54 <Eric> He made me do it
17:05:36 <ynpvisitor35> It’s a good symbiotic relationship when people’s egos are in check
17:06:19 <Ryan> I dOnT hAvE aN eGo.
17:07:01 <ynpvisitor34> Is the opposie an eStop?
17:12:29 <ynpvisitor45> Eric, when does your friend get the test results?
17:15:31 <fishynp> I'm starting to think the signal on YNR during the last (actual) SB eruption was just the same thing we saw today. It just happened to happen at the same time as an eruption.
17:15:44 <ynpvisitor45> aha
17:15:51 <fishynp> I'm fairly confident in that.
17:17:20 <ynpvisitor35> Wow. What is it?
17:18:13 <ynpvisitor45> amazing timing then
17:18:37 <fishynp> Maybe some construction. Could be working on the water treatment plant. Or working on the phone lines that run up there.
17:19:12 <Betty> the urban bus maybe?
17:19:20 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, too much of a timing coincidence. Also trace was a lot fatter and tapered off, unlike today Trace duration was not as long as todays too
17:19:50 <fishynp> nope. looks exactly the same.
17:20:04 <ynpvisitor45> there was one after work hours a few nights ago
17:20:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> if you say so .....they look different to me
17:20:41 <Eric> Thanks for the input fish! Would be great to know what is causing that type of reading
17:21:39 <Eric> When you headed into the park to fix the YNM :-P
17:21:50 <fishynp> could be a pump running at the water treatment facility that is very close by. Wouldn't necessarily only run during "business hours".
17:21:52 <ynpvisitor35> How about the order big question. When will power be restored so we can get YNP back online?
17:22:22 <Eric> oh right, no power at Norris :-( I keep forgetting
17:22:25 <GO STEAMBOAT> put them side to side - do you see differences
17:22:25 <fishynp> Nothing we can do about YNM. It's a power issue. There's no power/communications to Norris right now. We have to wait for YNP to fix it.
17:22:59 <Eric> But I would assume a pump we would have seen many times last year
17:23:34 <fishynp> unless they are doing something special that is not really normal working conditions. Taking advantage of not a lot of demand.
17:23:37 <Eric> We actually believe that riverdance has taken up practice in the nearby quarry.
17:23:40 <ynpvisitor35> Isn’t there a gravel pit near ynr?
17:23:50 <fishynp> no quarry there.
17:24:43 <fishynp> there is a carcass dump there though.
17:24:51 <Eric> Pretty sure this is a quarry :-D,-110.6817527,403m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5351d998c7645db1:0xbc4781021f463d55!8m2!3d44.7262352!4d-110.7042812
17:25:05 <Eric> Not all that far
17:25:26 <Eric> Closer than steamboat
17:25:34 <fishynp> not actively quarrying there. That is just where they stage materials.
17:25:36 <GO STEAMBOAT> define far?
17:25:45 <Eric> ahh, makes sense
17:26:07 <Eric> The pump at treatment plant seems to make the most sense, just weird we wouldn't have noticed it before.
17:26:25 <GO STEAMBOAT> i wonder if coop will go to Grand for us
17:26:44 <ynpvisitor45> when YNM is working we don't look at the other one much
17:27:18 <ynpvisitor45> fishynp, thank you!!
17:28:00 <GO STEAMBOAT> Turban?
17:29:16 <Eric> True, but I think people have gone back through previous YNR now
17:31:28 <Betty> time for sleep, enjoy Grand and BH
17:35:02 <Dave from home> Anyone here familiar with Xanterra CG reservations in YNP?
17:35:48 <GO STEAMBOAT> just book em
17:35:54 <KevinS> Dave from home, I used them for my reservations
17:36:53 <Dave from home> Can you request a certain spot and if so, where do you find detailed maps?
17:37:27 <KevinS> Not much luck on the computer but when I called, I got great treatment and what I wanted. You can request conditions only. They place you where they want.
17:38:23 <KevinS> Dave from home, Which CG?
17:38:31 <Dave from home> Can tyou request to be in a different loop than CraigC?:D
17:38:41 <KevinS> Yes you can
17:38:42 <Dave from home> Madison for next year
17:39:00 <KevinS> You can request to be by another party or far from them.
17:39:59 <KevinS> At at Madison I request "secluded" and far away from as much noise as possible. And far from restrooms and they do they best to assign as I request.
17:40:30 <Dave from home> Good to know thanks
17:41:36 <KevinS> Tent or RV
17:43:50 <LindaG> I googled Yellowstone campground map and a few came up
17:44:44 <LindaG>
17:44:53 <LindaG> That's madison
17:45:50 <Dave from home> RV Camper Van 21'
17:46:57 <Dave from home> Thaks, Linda. Since I'm unfamiliar with specific sites, I will wing it this time.
17:47:11 <KevinS> Good luck then. Craig may be your neighbor.
17:48:10 <Dave from home> I hope so. That's the plan.
17:48:34 <KevinS> Dave from home, They will not allow specific site reservations anyway.
17:49:14 <KevinS> What dates if you don't mind me asking? I will be there July 17-24
17:50:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> turban?
17:51:02 <Dave from home> June 22-26
17:52:17 <ynpvisitor103> What’s on YNR
17:52:25 <ynpvisitor45> this year, next year?
17:52:33 <Dave from home> next year
17:52:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah
17:52:43 <KevinS> Dave from home, You can reguest to be by Craig and they will almost certainly do that.
17:53:04 <GO STEAMBOAT> that looks boaty
17:53:44 <Dave from home> really, guys? Please close your YNR:)
17:53:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> come on Dave ... go look
17:54:03 <Ryan(phone)> Drum roll for will.
17:54:12 <Ryan(phone)> That can’t happen twice in one day.
17:54:12 <KevinS> Dave from home, Second one to reserve needs to request to be by (note reservation number) the one who reserved first.
17:54:15 <ynpvisitor45> we can wait
17:54:25 <Eric> Now that looks like SB!
17:54:32 <Dave from home> I will let Craig know that
17:54:35 <GO STEAMBOAT> Grand
17:54:36 <Eric> Grand
17:54:47 <KevinS> That does look like SB.
17:54:55 <GO STEAMBOAT> what do you think Dave?
17:55:03 <Eric> 3rd time technically Ryan :-D
17:55:04 <Dave from home> I'm not looking:)
17:55:21 <Eric> You are going to miss SB Dave!
17:55:48 <GO STEAMBOAT> all that excitement and Dave is missing out
17:56:05 <Eric> Yep...squiggles on a page FTW!
17:56:13 <KevinS> But who will post it? Linda??
17:56:24 <Eric> 3rd times a charm!
17:56:51 <Eric> Lets get Mikey!
17:57:01 <GO STEAMBOAT> there it is
17:57:36 <GO STEAMBOAT> or not
17:57:47 <Eric>
17:59:03 <GO STEAMBOAT> 1738 or1739? what is it Dave?
18:00:37 <Eric> That might be the super volcano going!
18:02:54 <Dave from home> Time for dinner....let's get that post on GT:)
18:03:01 <GO STEAMBOAT> shush, dont let Dave know
18:03:23 <fishynp> that looks more like it.
18:03:28 <GO WILL BOEKEL> Screw it.
18:04:23 <Ryan> its entered
18:04:27 <Ryan> fight me
18:04:51 <ynpvisitor45> Bill asked nicely, that's all I will say
18:07:39 <ynpvisitor25> Not a wise move
18:08:47 <GO WILL BOEKEL> You know. I got yelled at today on the chat page publicly because I made an educated guess and people can’t read “?”
18:09:11 <GO STEAMBOAT> your comment doesnt really explain why itsa ? though Ryan
18:09:13 <GO WILL BOEKEL> I’m gonna continue doing my observations the way I always have.
18:09:27 <GO WILL BOEKEL> I’ll update the “?” Comment.
18:09:36 <GO STEAMBOAT> thank you
18:10:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> its intriguingly different to the others, but so far we are not doing a very good job with our guesses
18:11:16 <ynpvisitor45> I just don't see why it's so hard to wait
18:14:06 <Ryan> Ya know what, theres a way to do this, and there is a way not to. Everyone has my email, most have my phone number. I am here every day.
18:14:22 <Ryan> We can have this disucssion without it being a production.
18:14:26 <GO STEAMBOAT> it should get a comment on it, right now its very uninformative
18:15:31 <Ryan> I just updated it
18:16:27 <GO STEAMBOAT> thank you
18:16:50 <Eric> Boy that sure looks steamboaty
18:17:03 <Eric> more so than the earlier trace
18:17:23 <Jeff> i hope this one isnt a troll
18:17:31 <Eric> haha
18:17:43 <Eric> Trollalalalalalala
18:17:59 <Eric> Check out YNR and make your own guess
18:18:01 <ynpvisitor25> It would be 5 odd intervals in a row
18:18:10 <GO STEAMBOAT> odd how it shut off like that tho, someone turned the pump off?
18:18:43 <Ryan> No rhythmic oscillations this time
18:18:44 <ynpvisitor45> yeah the pump at the water plant
18:19:42 <GO STEAMBOAT> i would say theres soe around 1750 .... but its different yet again
18:19:54 <Jeff> it definitely looks different on this one but with the last 2 false alarms idk lol
18:22:02 <ynpvisitor53> This is a great time for the YNM to stop working lol
18:22:17 <Jeff> i know right lol
18:22:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> good job there are people around and this is not winter
18:23:09 <GO STEAMBOAT> the only thing that matters at this point is the in-park report
18:23:27 <Jeff> im glad this is kinda happening during the summer when we can get the in basin confirmations
18:23:50 <Jake> Ryan, remember when you told us all the reasons that in basin people don't like the webcam people and then an in basin person showed up in here and said stop doing that thing and just wait and then that thing happened again?
18:24:58 <ynpvisitor45> :!:Jake:!:
18:25:43 <GO STEAMBOAT> and whats your point Jake?
18:26:09 <GO STEAMBOAT> oh, it is your database ... haha .... sorry boss
18:26:43 <ynpvisitor25> Play nice boys
18:27:03 <Jake> It's not "mine" I'm trying to make sure it stays viable though and understand all the viewpoints
18:27:28 <Eric> It does look really good though see the trace?
18:27:41 <Eric> We are like geyser crack addicts.
18:28:17 <Jeff> ill be a steamboat crack addict once i get to see the ************** thing
18:28:31 <KevinS> Bore hole 945 does not show a trace this time and did on the other times. In fact no other nearby loggers have this on it. But several went down earlier today.
18:28:38 <Jake> I see it. And all the comments following that read just like the read this morning
18:30:15 <GO STEAMBOAT> Jeff - as i told visitors "some people are here hoping to see it for the first time, and others are here because we have"
18:30:21 <GO STEAMBOAT> the desire doesnt go away
18:30:31 <Jake> I'm not saying it's not Steamboat but crying wolf has consequences
18:30:53 <Jeff> my desire for seeing it for the first time hasnt gone away otherwise i wouldnt even bother with it lol
18:31:07 <Eric> true that
18:31:22 <KevinS> Too many other loggers offline right now to see if this is something else.
18:31:36 <Jeff> ive lost track of the time ive put in on my days off trying to see it
18:32:05 <ynpvisitor42> if people can look at the seismo themselves, why does there need to be any entry before the direct observers enter it
18:32:08 <GO STEAMBOAT> aggree jake, only makes sense if theres a high chance going up there yu can catch the early steam phase. so far we arent good at helping that
18:32:29 <Ryan> Jake:
18:32:29 <Eric> 42, so people know to look at the seismo I am assuming
18:32:47 <Ryan> There's two reasons I posted.
18:32:53 <Ryan> OK 3.
18:33:06 <GO STEAMBOAT> a lot of people ont know how to read the seismo ... looking around at all of us too
18:33:20 <Eric> OF
18:33:51 <Eric> We need the Derek Zooland School for people who don't read seismo good!
18:33:55 <Ryan> 1 - I have legitimate reason to believe Steamboat is currently erupting. Yes, there have been two false alarms. We are learning to read a new instrument. This however does not match the other two. All told, I think there is viable reason to think its erupting.
18:34:08 <Ryan> If its wrong, then its another note on how YNR can mess with you.
18:34:20 <GO STEAMBOAT> it also doesnt match the one eruption we know happened
18:34:26 <KevinS> Would a note be better to enter instead of ?
18:34:30 <GO STEAMBOAT> recently anyway
18:34:43 <Jeff> this one in my inexperienced opinion, it does seem promising (i hope) but i very well could be wrong
18:34:44 <Ryan> Thats 1 of 3, I am not done.
18:35:15 <GO STEAMBOAT> thanks Ryan
18:35:19 <Ryan> 2 - On principle. I am sorry that some people read the orevious "?" entries and made substantial plans to their daily plans and showed up to a non-erupting steamboat.
18:35:22 <ynpvisitor89> nice light on OF
18:35:23 <GO STEAMBOAT> we knew the frst one
18:36:45 <Ryan> Their interpretation of "?", and "not erupting", and "false alarm" is not something I can control. Every seismic trace has been entered. Some have been wrong (5/27/2018) and some have been right (2/20/2019) and proven in basin observations wrong. This isnt a combative thing. In basin and remote observations can and should go hand in hand.
18:36:54 <ynpvisitor84> This appears more likely than the earlier one today.
18:36:56 <GO STEAMBOAT> that doesnt really eplain why you wuld post it ryan
18:37:19 <GO STEAMBOAT> because people dont interpret it well isnt a reason to post it
18:37:21 <Ryan> That is my intention, I can not control how others will react to a remote observation.
18:38:16 <Ryan> 3 - The final clincher: I am supremely excited that my best friend saw Steamboat. Its worth it more for me to be congratulating him in a GT comment, than it is to upset someone for reasons I can not control.
18:38:41 <Ryan> That was the final motivation.
18:38:43 <Eric> But Bill did make an effort to come on here and explain how it negatively affected people when it was wrong. For good or bad, people didn't understand, so taking that into account should have been at least food for thought on entering it again.
18:38:53 <Ryan> It was, I didnt ignore it.
18:38:55 <GO STEAMBOAT> yu only have one reason to post it out of thise 3, sorry GT isnt your ersonal satisfaction toy
18:39:20 <Ryan> At least the one time I use it as my satisfaction toy, I am being honest.
18:39:27 <Ryan> Others do not have that integrity.
18:39:34 <Eric> CAstle?
18:39:39 <ynpvisitor84> Isn't 1 reason enough?
18:39:43 <Eric> nevermind...just billows
18:39:47 <Ryan> Reasons 1 and 2 should have been enough
18:39:52 <GO STEAMBOAT> if you say so
18:40:01 <GO STEAMBOAT> 2 wasnt a reason to post
18:40:02 <Ryan> Reason 1 was enough for the last 98 eruptions.
18:40:13 <ynpvisitor84> How many reasons do you need before you GO STEAMBOAT?
18:40:18 <GO STEAMBOAT> it was an explanation if people made decisions based on your post
18:40:22 <ynpvisitor84> *before you post
18:40:50 <Ryan> Yes it was. Principle. People got upset because I posted a false alarm this morning despite extensive documentation that it was a questionable entry.
18:40:51 <GO STEAMBOAT> i didnt post it. and the one that it did erupt I put a note
18:40:58 <Eric> I think a NOTE might have been a more sensible approach to lower tensions, but I still won't knocking you for entering your observation correctly :-P
18:41:07 <GO STEAMBOAT> becasue i dont trust YNR
18:41:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> as a reliable indicator
18:41:38 <Ryan> Negligent misinterpretations of "?" tags is not a reason to negate reason 1.
18:41:38 <ynpvisitor42> ^
18:41:44 <Eric> Yes, it seems to be proving less reliable than a magic 8 ball so far today :-P
18:41:50 <Ryan> If it makes you feel better, you can call it reason 1.5
18:41:59 <GO STEAMBOAT> that was your only reason Ryan and you did it haing been asked not to
18:42:07 <KevinS> Ryan, I agree in that I am 70% convinced. But is that enough to post as an eruption? Or would it be better to enter as a SB note and still accomplish everything you want? YNR is not 100% trustworthy on its own.
18:42:11 <Ryan> (Also, Bill Jones could call on the sat phone and confirm.)
18:42:50 <ynpvisitor84> GT has instructions on how to post. If we have an issue with "?" eruptions being posted based on it, let's change the guidelines instead of ridiculing someone for posting.
18:42:53 <GO STEAMBOAT> Bill is someone i respect, so that hurts
18:43:26 <Ryan> I was asked not to. I considered all of the circumstances.
18:43:42 <Ryan> I stand by that decision. Bill and Carol are more than welcome to discuss it with me.
18:44:11 <GO STEAMBOAT> I have been asked not to post in the past too
18:44:40 <GO STEAMBOAT> and i respected their wishes
18:44:52 <ynpvisitor84> As long as everyone is posting in good faith, I have confidence we are going to have overwhelmingly positive results.
18:45:15 <Ryan> My post was in good faith. It was not to incite.
18:45:30 <ynpvisitor84> Exactly
18:45:42 <Ryan> Once again, I considered the circumstances involved in the earlier request.
18:45:51 <GO STEAMBOAT> daisy
18:46:11 <Ryan> I can not stop someone from reading an overtly "?" entry and deciding to drive to Norris.
18:46:48 <Ryan> Nor is it Carol and Bills fault. I honestly dont know why those half dozen werent told "Sorry you didnt read the comment correctly?"
18:47:26 <Ryan> Of all the parties involved here, its none of our fault that someone read a post wrong and acted in bad judgement.
18:47:56 <KevinS> ynpvisitor84, Good point on the guidelines. As long as a post is made within the guidelines then all is well. If the guidlines are needing reviewed, then that is another issue.
18:48:10 <Ryan> Yes, then revise the guidelines.
18:48:23 <Eric> Jake's fault!
18:48:28 <Ryan> (Side note)
18:48:32 <Eric> That was easy
18:48:47 <Ryan> (If youre going up just to see a Steamphase why did YOU not wait for the confirmation?)
18:49:09 <Ryan> (2hrs for YOUR confirmation would also save you a drive up to Norris, the steamphase dont change much in 2hrs)
18:49:28 <ynpvisitor84> Regardless, I think we will all benefit from a large community of people willing to share their observations than a small community of posters and a large group of people afraid to speak up.
18:50:12 <GO STEAMBOAT> if you say so Ryan
18:50:14 <Ryan> 84, agree. I may criticize the type of posting people make, but I wont personally ridicule them or guilt them.
18:50:37 <GO STEAMBOAT> sometime water lasts an hour
18:50:50 <GO STEAMBOAT> and the steam phase does change, sorry i disagree with yu
18:50:56 <Ryan> They still cant make it from West, Mammoth, or Old Faithful in time for water.
18:51:29 <GO STEAMBOAT> if its an hour they could
18:51:34 <Ryan> Canyon is about the best they could.
18:51:43 <ynpvisitor84> If your trip to Yellowstone is ruined by a drive to Norris, you're doing it wrong.
18:51:56 <Jeff> assuming you left right at the start of it and no traffic whatsoever and it lasted an hour youd catch the last little bit of water phase
18:52:12 <GO STEAMBOAT> who said ruined ... yellowstone trips are always good
18:52:38 <Ryan> Look, this turned personal, on several other parties' end. Its not personal on mine. I have stated my reasons, I have invited any offended parties to have this discussion.
18:52:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> unless you hit a ison
18:52:44 <GO STEAMBOAT> bison
18:52:44 <Ryan> What more do you want from me?
18:53:19 <GO STEAMBOAT> you have made it clear Ryan, and if you istening the counter positions have also been stated
18:53:42 <Ryan> I agree with 84, if youre complaining about driving up to Norris enough to make Bill come on here and make a statement - youre doing it wrong and being seriously wrong to Carol and Bill.
18:53:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> this is not Fox News, we dont nee to go on
18:53:46 <KevinS> Catching the end of water phase can be very rewarding if SB decides to have restarts.
18:54:34 <Ryan> This is like someone getting mad because you called a false lock at F&M. Its not my fault you came down...
18:54:52 <GO STEAMBOAT> ok Ryan
18:58:01 <fishynp> no in basin confirmation yet?
18:58:11 <ynpvisitor42> confirmation of what
18:58:17 <ynpvisitor42> ;)
18:58:25 <GO STEAMBOAT> no BH yet
18:58:57 <ynpvisitor88> For what it's worth, last summer, my wife and I noted a SB start while were at Canyon, and we got to Norris in plenty of time to see 300 foot + water in restarts. It was cool!
18:59:20 <LindaG> Nice light
18:59:33 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor88, congrats
19:00:06 <Eric> We have seen nothing fish...but that trace looks different!
19:00:07 <GO STEAMBOAT> good for you, thats so much fun
19:00:34 <ynpvisitor111> How long does it take for water to arrive at Tantulas Creek
19:00:42 <Ryan> any time now
19:00:45 <Ryan> next update
19:00:47 <Eric> 1.5h
19:00:50 <ynpvisitor84> Yeah. This one has looked different from the beginning. I'm not putting my money on anything though.
19:00:55 <ynpvisitor88> How come the video won't play for me? It says network failed or format is not supported .
19:01:21 <GO STEAMBOAT> the last eruption had restarts that extended the duration to an hour and a half
19:01:40 <ynpvisitor42> I seriously hope it is an eruption, then I can relax and take my time driving up tomorrow
19:06:34 <Ryan> Another note: we have since learned that a water pump may be the cause of the initial traces. Given that new knowledge, and that this has *no* oscillations like the other two did (like some pumps would have) - that influenced my educated decision that there was enough evidence to post a "?" entry.
19:07:13 <Ryan> Not to drag it out. I just had a chance to collect more of my thoughts. Hard to compile complex thought processes while also defending yourself.
19:10:42 <ynpvisitor42> riverside
19:13:25 <ynpvisitor25> We could lose updated field reports over this
19:17:42 <Ryan> I was just excited for my friend.
19:19:01 <Ryan> I wanted to make an attempt to record as high up in the chain as possible that one of the largest contributors to GeyserTimes, and someone who tried for two years, finally got to see it.
19:19:32 <Ryan> If that upsets people enough to stop contributing field reports, then we have very serious problems as a community.
19:20:11 <Ryan> And if asked, I will tell that to everyone and anyone who inquires. I stand by my actions.
19:20:28 <ynpvisitor84> Decisions have consequences. You made what you believed was the best decisions given the information you had. I'm confident you can handle the consequences (good or bad).
19:20:34 <ynpvisitor3> Maybe he had to go to West to use the can?
19:21:09 <Ryan> Its not the worst social decision I have made as a geyser gazer...
19:21:27 <ynpvisitor84> Amen to that
19:21:32 <Ryan> At least this time I didnt send a ranting and raving anger email to the list serv :)
19:21:45 <ynpvisitor84> Woah!
19:21:59 <Ryan> IKR!? I should be congratulated for progress ;)
19:22:09 <Jeff> looks like this one was confirmed
19:22:18 <ynpvisitor3> Won't a in basin time trump your entry enyway?
19:22:18 <Jeff> in basin
19:22:19 <ynpvisitor84> Thank you for setting the bar so low for the rest of us
19:22:46 <Ryan> Doesnt matter, first E time sent the message I wanted
19:23:03 <ynpvisitor84> Nice. Good call, Ryan (... just never be wrong again).
19:23:11 <ynpvisitor42> yes, Will got it, **** yeah
19:23:23 <ynpvisitor3> Like now. So lots of hand ringing and defense preparation for not.
19:23:29 <ynpvisitor84> Nice
19:25:31 <Ryan> Got a big old lump in my throat.
19:25:44 <Ryan> Congrats, my friend. :love:
19:25:52 <ynpvisitor3retu> So next time you want to congratulate someone for seeing something you can not, why not just post a note. That way they can see it.
19:26:00 <ynpvisitor3retu> gone again
19:26:46 <Ryan> "So next time you want to congratulate someone for seeing something you can not, why not just post a note." Wow thats just bitter.
19:27:54 <ynpvisitor42> enough of the fighting, FFS...... everyone just chill and be happy for Will, and my rhyme
19:28:04 <Ryan> Thanks, 42.
19:30:38 <GO STEAMBOAT> 99 in series, 91 in 2 years, 47 in one year, 19 this year. Mean dropped a lot, from 48d to 25d56m, median dropped to 7d12h24m for last 100
19:31:19 <LindaG> I guess korben didnt go
19:31:25 <GO STEAMBOAT> and congrats to Lori, Will, Demetri, Bbev, Bob, and others
19:31:29 <Sam> Yay Steamboat! In basin!
19:31:35 <GO STEAMBOAT> glad Lori made it in time
19:31:50 <GO STEAMBOAT> hope cb was there too?
19:31:54 <Jeff> will needs to share the steamboat karma/luck with me this summer
19:32:08 <Jeff> william i mean
19:32:08 <ynpvisitor13> An astounding 5 eruption in a row that was not in total darkness
19:32:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> yes Jeff, hope you get it.
19:33:45 <Jeff> im also excited to see everyone again too
19:34:03 <GO STEAMBOAT> posted time looks odd tho, it would be at the end of the fat trace at the start?
19:34:50 <Ryan> Eh, we will save that cluster**** for tomorrow. :)
19:35:14 <Ryan> I'd personally assume the YNR timestamp is wrong.
19:35:48 <ynpvisitor13> or that it indicates something other than SB
19:37:37 <Ryan> It's whatever. It'll get sorted out eventually. I am just happy.
19:40:40 <ynpvisitor41> Of on static
19:40:51 <ynpvisitor41> Last one must have been a short
19:43:03 <ynpvisitor42> looks sunny on the hill, I'm hearing it was really cold and snowy at SB
19:44:06 <Ryan> Signing off for the night.
19:44:20 <GO STEAMBOAT> night Ryan
19:44:23 <Ryan> Congratulations Lori and Will. I am so happy for y'all.
19:44:44 <Ryan> Night Graham, take it easy my friend.
19:50:12 <LindaG> Oh great Lori S did see SB
19:50:45 <LindaG> But
19:51:06 <LindaG> Korben didnt
19:54:48 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, Korben had a good time in UGB it seems
20:05:57 <ynpvisitor80> That's good wonder why he didnt make it to Norris if lori did.
20:06:17 <ynpvisitor80> Ah beehive
20:06:29 <ynpvisitor99> Roads were bad today according to cooper
20:06:49 <ynpvisitor99> Black ice, most likely on Craig pass
20:07:28 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, may have wanted to avoid more travel. had to checkin late afternoon too
20:07:42 <GO STEAMBOAT> sorry he and his dad missed it
20:07:48 <ynpvisitor99> Becca and I will be shooting for #100
20:07:59 <GO STEAMBOAT> good for you ... when is that?
20:08:06 <LindaGt> Maybe his dad is cautious in bad weather
20:08:10 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor99, you're coming back in this week?
20:08:20 <ynpvisitor99> Fri night thru sunday
20:08:34 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor99, then we'll meet up
20:08:35 <ynpvisitor99> Trying to get Becca one
20:08:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> glad Will got it, he had bad luck before so another one friend has seen it
20:08:57 <Eric> Glad Will got SB!
20:09:19 <ynpvisitor99> Sounds good 42
20:09:35 <Kevin L™ 🌵> You will need to stay home Dave
20:09:35 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah with Demetri, so that was fun i bet
20:09:46 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor99, I vgot your text, but been too preoccupied to try and do reservations tonight
20:09:54 <LindaGt> Kevin L™ 🌵, hi
20:10:29 <ynpvisitor99> No problem. We just decided 5 minutes ago to get to number 100
20:10:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> she neds #1
20:10:48 <ynpvisitor42> :thumbsup:
20:11:14 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor99, are you guys ready to stay over night if needed
20:12:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi Linda
20:13:04 <LindaGt> 👋
20:13:24 <ynpvisitor99> Let me think about that
20:14:02 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor99, I probably am
20:15:02 <ynpvisitor99> I figured. Give me a day to make a plan
20:15:22 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor99, where are you staying
20:16:21 <ynpvisitor99> Jardine road near gardiner if not overnight at SB
20:19:16 <ynpvisitor42> is madison cg open yet?
20:20:07 <GO STEAMBOAT> i am quitting today, too much excitement for one day
20:20:27 <ynpvisitor99> Not until June 15 and I think it is full
20:20:28 <GO STEAMBOAT> have fun .... and GO STEAMBOAT
20:20:29 <LindaGt> GO STEAMBOAT, 😊night
20:24:00 <ynpvisitor42> ynpvisitor99, how long is the drive to Jardine from Norris?
20:31:38 <LindaGt> Night
20:48:51 <ynpvisitor82> where is Jardine?
20:50:25 <ynpvisitor82> Bee is lost
20:50:28 <ynpvisitor111> that Dolly Parton song Jardine, Jardine, Jardiiiiinnnnnneeeeeeee
20:50:56 <ynpvisitor82> Joleen
20:52:20 <ynpvisitor82> number 42 asked how far from Norris to Jardine
20:52:29 <ynpvisitor82> hadn't heard of Jardine
20:54:05 <ynpvisitor111> it is outside of Gardiner MT
20:54:13 <ynpvisitor111> up a big hill
20:54:41 <ynpvisitor82> ok
20:55:23 <ynpvisitor82> I see Will B. finally got to see a Steamboat eruption
21:04:55 <ynpvisitor99> 55 minutes
21:12:40 <ynpvisitor117> Roughly 15-20 miles
21:13:40 <ynpvisitor98> isn't it 21 from Mammoth to Norris?
21:15:55 <KorbenC(phone)> Do cabins have Wi-Fi
21:16:20 <Michael> Hi Korben. No idea.
21:17:17 <KorbenC(phone)> Sb was awesome BTW
21:18:14 <Michael> Glad to hear it. A cold rainy day with Steamboat is way better than a cold rainy day without it.
21:18:32 <KorbenC(phone)> Cold graupel, hail sized hail dat
21:18:55 <Ben VL> So you saw it?
21:19:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> No wifi in OF cabins
21:20:38 <KorbenC(phone)> Ben VL, yes
21:20:56 <KorbenC(phone)> 11 restarts too
21:21:05 <KorbenC(phone)> And 2 SB bows.
21:21:13 <Ben VL> Nice, congrats! I was wondering if you had made it given when you posted Aurum
21:21:47 <KorbenC(phone)> I wanted a grand total of 30 seconds in the parking lot
21:22:30 <Ben VL> Ah, it started as you were walking over?
21:22:49 <KorbenC(phone)> Started as we were pulling in.
21:23:02 <Ben VL> That's a close one
21:23:51 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Nice!
21:24:34 <Ben VL> My first trip this summer is more or less planned
21:24:42 <KorbenC(phone)> Shower time
21:24:50 <Ben VL> How long are you staying, Korben?
21:26:38 <Ben VL> Also my inclonometer arrived
21:29:12 <ynpvisitor98> Think you can get it at Snow Lodge for a $$$
21:29:51 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think the snow lodge is closed
23:15:16 <ynpvisitor2> Is that bright star Venus?