Showing logs for date: 2020-08-28
05:38:38 <ynpvisitor12> Plume upper left
05:47:07 <ynpvisitor12> At 05:37:18 a plume rose in upper left area, assuming cam that is what video was for. Second one shows it, first video not long enough
05:47:35 <ynpvisitor12> *assuming cam on GH
05:48:25 <ynpvisitor101> its probably Solitary Geyser rising above the fog bank
05:53:26 <ynpvisitor12> ynpvisitor101, 👍
05:54:25 <ynpvisitor27> Hi, J here. Apparantly ISP has been suffering from an extremely large DDoS attack since about 0400-ish local time. First time I've seen them use 'extremely large', so must be a first for them. :/
05:55:08 <ynpvisitor101> JO?
05:55:18 <ynpvisitor27> yes
05:55:28 <ynpvisitor101> Ah, sorry to hear that
05:55:29 <KorbenC> Hi JO
05:55:43 <KorbenC> sorry to hear about that, ill make getvideos when I can
05:56:28 <ynpvisitor27> oh well. Luckily I still have the OFVCL-EVs to my availability, so I'll manage :D
05:56:44 <KorbenC> :D
05:57:57 <ynpvisitor101> That plume isnt Solitary
05:58:12 <ynpvisitor101> May just be Doublet
05:58:13 <ynpvisitor12> 😊
05:58:46 <ynpvisitor12> It just seemed to be in back of hill
05:59:27 <KorbenC> Hi Linda
06:00:34 <LindaG> KorbenC, hi
06:00:55 <LindaG> Maybe that plume is aurum?
06:01:07 <ynpvisitor101> Long Aurum...
06:01:48 <LindaG> It just seemed so defined
06:01:50 <ynpvisitor101> Hopefully the show isnt over yet
06:03:03 <Ryan(mine)> be back later
06:03:14 <KorbenC> ByeR
06:06:11 <Ryan(mine)> Praying Steamboat pulls a short. if it doesnt, my trip spans the gap of a normal interval...
06:07:11 <Ryan(mine)> Current average is 5.5 days, I am hoping it goes less than that but it probably wont. I am resigning myself at this point... sigh.
06:07:31 <LindaG> When will you be there?
06:08:34 <LindaG> Maybe giantess will pull a short 😊
06:09:32 <KorbenC> LindaG, hes "not" going to the UGB :)
06:10:00 <LindaG> Ah
06:10:03 <LindaG> Ah
06:10:15 <LindaG> Now that was a delay
06:10:35 <LindaG> Things are real sluggish
06:11:18 <KorbenC> It is 6AM :)
06:21:09 <LindaG> Wow GOY says 1959 earthquake caused giantess to have an active period of more than100 hours
06:21:28 <KorbenC> so I take it you found your book :D
06:21:28 <LindaG> Yeah I found my book😊
06:22:01 <KorbenC> are you running the cam Linda or is Joe still?
06:22:45 <LindaG> I'm not
06:25:03 <KorbenC> has anyone seen any Giantess water this morning?
06:29:24 <LindaG> I havent too steamy
06:36:03 <KorbenC> Dep?
06:36:05 <KorbenC> yes
06:36:25 <LindaG> Static nice
06:37:20 <LindaG> Yay
06:37:51 <LindaG> High
06:40:42 <LindaG> An heres the fog
06:41:39 <KorbenC> Hi Lori
06:41:50 <Lori S (work)> yellow everybody yellow
06:42:04 <Lori S (work)> hi KorbenC
06:42:09 <LindaG> Jello lori jello
06:42:21 <Lori S (work)> hi linda :)
06:42:36 <LindaG> 😊 morning
06:43:05 <LindaG> You are just in time for fog
06:43:15 <ynpvisitor40> https://www.geyserhill.com/audio/halo1
06:43:34 <LindaG> ynpvisitor40, halo halo
06:43:50 <KorbenC> Hey Joe, hows everything?
06:44:49 <Lori S (work)> hi joe
06:44:57 <KorbenC> Hi Kat
06:45:23 <LindaG> Morning kat
06:46:15 <Kat> Hi Korben, Linda, Joe Jarno a Lori
06:46:42 <Kat> Foggy
06:47:21 <Kat> Supposed to snow this weekend I heard
06:47:49 <LindaG> Kat, oh I love when it snows
06:48:13 <Kat> Me too
06:48:45 <LindaG> Wolves will come back 😊
06:48:47 <Lori S (work)> hi kat
06:48:55 <Kat> Hi Lori
06:49:16 <Lori S (work)> back in a bit. time to go home :)
06:49:28 <Kat> I sure hope so Linda !
06:49:33 <LindaG> Ok, cya
06:49:41 <Kat> Bye Lori - drive safe
06:50:30 <Kat> Joe how are you?
06:50:42 <Lori S (work)> ride as in bicycle
06:50:58 <Kat> Well, be safe LOL
06:51:31 <LindaG> Wonder if its done
06:59:20 <LindaG> Somebody's waiting for Bee
07:01:11 <LindaG> Must be BrianR he made note about infant
07:02:16 <Kat> Eeew!
07:02:58 <LindaG> Well I'll be back gotta go shopping
07:03:27 <Kat> Be safe
07:03:28 <JarnoO> everything seems to be working again...
07:04:25 <JarnoO> Giantess ended the eruption after OB31?
07:09:05 <Kat> :lion:
07:10:28 <Kat> Terrible viewing
07:11:28 <Forestbewithyou> Good Morning everyone
07:11:32 <JarnoO> morning Forest
07:12:06 <Kat> Forestbewithyou, Morning
07:13:38 <JarnoO> is the stream slow for anyone else?
07:13:54 <Forestbewithyou> Yea. But that might be my bad internet
07:14:24 <JarnoO> finally a frame after several minutes of waiting...
07:15:00 <Forestbewithyou> oh gosh looking over the video replays made me think plume erupted...
07:17:15 <JarnoO> oh... that's a very bad streaming on my end. Darn
07:17:18 <Kat> Not slow here Jarno
07:18:11 <Kat> Wow! Down basin
07:23:48 <JarnoO> I guess third time's the charm when it comes down to reloading in the hope streaming will be smooth :P
07:24:57 <JarnoO> anyway - ISP said that the DDoS attack is still ongoing, but that they were able to circumvent it by rerouting traffic and apply filtering, so that only real traffic makes it through :)
07:26:29 <KorbenC> wait, so your being hacked JO?
07:27:06 <JarnoO> no, ISP itself is being DDoS'ed
07:27:57 <KorbenC> OK, I totaly understand :D
07:28:24 <Forestbewithyou> well thats good because I don't lol
07:28:44 <Kat> Me either Forestbewithyou,
07:29:05 <KorbenC> oops, I forgot the sarcasm font
07:29:23 <Forestbewithyou> I picked up on that
07:31:04 <KorbenC> maybe this is better, [i] OK, now I totally understand (insert wink here) [/i]
07:31:21 <Kat> :)
07:32:43 <Kat> Lake cam looks cool
07:33:06 <Kat> "shark cloud" there
07:33:39 <KorbenC> oh yeah.
07:34:09 <Forestbewithyou> *insert jaws music here*
07:34:18 <Kat> LOL
07:34:45 <KorbenC> lol
07:34:48 <JarnoO> I've got a few puzzles of an artist who always hides a sharkfin somewhere in the picture. Lake cam makes me think of that :)
07:35:08 <KorbenC> *insert good ?j ]]]]]]]]]]] fkr snkgn bnmer sckn*
07:35:11 <KorbenC> wow
07:35:11 <Kat> That would be fun
07:35:32 <KorbenC> *insert good im going to school soon, be back later*
07:35:45 <Kat> I was wondering Korben
07:35:46 <KorbenC> what did you do too me Linda?
07:36:00 <Kat> She's shopping
07:37:11 <Kat> Temp dropped to 34
07:38:08 <KorbenC> Bye all, talk to yall later. If it starts too snow send me an email :)
07:38:23 <JarnoO> cya Korben
07:38:28 <Kat> CYA Korben
07:40:33 <JarnoO> regarding that sharkfin - this is one of the jigsaw puzzles he's made: https://www.jvh-puzzels.nl/isotope/i/id-0-artwork-de-dierentuin.jpg
07:40:53 <JarnoO> good luck finding the sharkfin in there :)
07:42:23 <Kat> I'll be looking for some time today!
07:52:08 <Betty> morning all, afternoon JarnoO
07:52:17 <Kat> Hi Betty
07:52:20 <JarnoO> afternoon Betty
07:52:22 <Forestbewithyou> Heyo Betty
07:52:28 <Forestbewithyou> I am going to go for a nice walk
07:52:29 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hi betty
07:52:40 <Betty> hi Kat, Forestbewithyou, SantaFe108 GIANTESS
07:53:04 <Betty> it´s the weekend :-D
08:00:53 <SantaFe108 GIAN> how is giantess this morning
08:01:08 <JarnoO> seems to be end of eruption
08:01:30 <KorbenC(tablet)> Betty, hi
08:01:34 <SantaFe108 GIAN> very well then
08:02:15 <Betty> hi Korben
08:02:33 <Kat> OF
08:05:21 <JarnoO> I'm setting Giantess at >35h13m, as there were no more convincing bursts after OB31 ended
08:05:36 <KorbenC(tablet)> Agree
08:06:00 <JarnoO> though there may have been one @ 2255 for 3 minutes, but overall didn't look that convincing
08:09:04 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hopefully giantess becomes more active in the coming years
08:09:16 <Ryan(-6)> Should watch it closely the next couple days to see when the pool refills.
08:09:38 <Ryan(-6)> And that almost looks like Vault huffing
08:09:48 <Kat> I think so
08:10:03 <Ryan(-6)> Ballcap or Plume steam?
08:10:31 <Ryan(-6)> looks like Ballcap
08:10:46 <Ryan(-6)> Plume is steaming but its pretty weak
08:11:19 <Ryan(-6)> Aurum
08:11:32 <Ryan(-6)> uh
08:11:32 <Betty> morning Ryan
08:11:41 <Ryan(-6)> what was THAT?
08:11:51 <Eric> Pump! :-P
08:11:54 <JarnoO> morning Eric
08:12:05 <Betty> morning Eric
08:12:05 <SantaFe108 GIAN> atomic pump
08:12:08 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hello eric
08:12:13 <Eric> Hi Kat, Ryan, Betty, Jarn, SF :-D
08:12:20 <Ryan(-6)> It was in the Sponge-UNG-Aurum line
08:12:41 <SantaFe108 GIAN> Ryan(-6), what did it look like?
08:12:44 <Kat> Was it pump or Aurum?
08:12:53 <Ryan(-6)> Like Aurum was starting
08:12:59 <Betty> I saw pump
08:13:02 <sparekitty> good morning everyone. what a beautiful view!
08:13:05 <Kat> I thought Aurum
08:13:07 <Ryan(-6)> and then stopped. Thats why I said Aurum lol
08:13:21 <BWaggs> Morning
08:13:22 <Ryan(-6)> I was definitely not pump
08:14:07 <Kat> Hi Eric, BWaggs
08:14:14 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hello BWaggs
08:14:58 <JarnoO> I don't see anything out of the ordinary there. Maybe Doublet or GHG-16?
08:15:03 <Kat> Can somene do a get video so I can check?
08:15:29 <KorbenC(tablet)> Kat, jO already did
08:15:32 <JarnoO> there's already one, Kat, title "What did Ryan see @ 0811?"
08:15:39 <JarnoO> titled*
08:15:57 <Eric> Morning Bwaggs
08:16:30 <JarnoO> morning sparekitty, BWaggs
08:16:34 <Ryan(-6)> I vote GHG16
08:16:43 <Kat> Doesn't look like Arurm
08:16:55 <SantaFe108 GIAN> morning sparekitty
08:17:40 <Kat> JarnoO, thanks
08:19:50 <Ryan(-6)> Thanks for the show, Giantess.
08:20:32 <JarnoO> definitely a highlight of the year :)
08:20:55 <sparekitty> as much as i'd love to see another whopping day of giantess, i really should get work done...
08:20:55 <JarnoO> those big ol' Oblong bursts too
08:21:11 <Kat> Made a lot of people happy! :)
08:21:28 <Ryan(-6)> http://geysers.org/notes/2020/08/Plume_01.jpg
08:21:38 <Ryan(-6)> HK photo of standing water in Plume's vents
08:22:42 <Betty> oh, that´s a good water level
08:24:22 <Ryan(-6)> Interesting report from HK for August 26. Sounds like SB's long interval was kind of abnormal.
08:24:53 <Ryan(-6)> The data logger shows a large event around 0300 on 26 August and HK described Steamboat as being in "recovery mode" for the entire day
08:27:50 <JarnoO> #2
08:29:54 <JarnoO> I wonder if Plume needs another Giantess eruption to kick it back on again, even if for only a short time post-Giantess
08:30:54 <Ryan(-6)> Plume was very young, only 80 years old.
08:30:57 <Kat> Marmot
08:31:14 <Ryan(-6)> and always complex and variable. I think it may just be gone.
08:32:18 <Eric> So is giantess done?
08:32:18 <JarnoO> it still has water, though, so there's some hope
08:32:34 <Eric> any bursts this morning?
08:32:38 <JarnoO> Eric, yes. Overnight captures didn't show much action after 2255
08:32:56 <Eric> Thanks Jarno
08:33:01 <JarnoO> and even 2255 likely has been heavy huffing rather than bursting
08:34:24 <Ryan(-6)> HK's blog also has a good description of the events of August 27 with the false report of SB
08:35:39 <SantaFe108 GIAN> there was a false SB entry yesterday?
08:35:52 <Ryan(-6)> 26 sorry
08:36:02 <KorbenC(tablet)> Huh?
08:36:12 <SantaFe108 GIAN> it didn't erupt on the 26?
08:36:26 <Ryan(-6)> whatever day it was
08:36:35 <SantaFe108 GIAN> I think 24?
08:36:41 <KorbenC(tablet)> It did erupt on the 26th
08:36:59 <SantaFe108 GIAN> yeah 26 had the full cb eruption entry
08:37:28 <SantaFe108 GIAN> I think he means the SB looking thing on YNR
08:37:33 <SantaFe108 GIAN> but it wasn't on YNM
08:38:27 <JarnoO> next Lion @ 0930±5m if series continues. 3m14s
08:38:42 <Kat> :)
08:38:43 <Ryan(-6)> Yeah that one
08:38:53 <Ryan(-6)> Giantess
08:39:11 <Ryan(-6)> There may have been water in that
08:39:32 <KorbenC(tablet)> My tablet Iis 9n delay
08:39:43 <KorbenC(tablet)> I think there was water
08:40:22 <Ryan(-6)> Anywho, yeah he notes now people in the basin need accurate and trustworthy information and how it affects them if they dont have it.
08:41:23 <Ryan(-6)> Looks like spritzes of water at 8:38:52 IMO
08:41:47 <Ryan(-6)> I certainly would not count Giantess as over just yet
08:43:05 <Ryan(-6)> personally I'd call the duration at at least 47hrs 36min
08:44:02 <Eric> definitely some event around 8:38 at giantess...steam thickened
08:45:03 <Ryan(-6)> Especially while Vault is still huffing (or erupting like I thought it was this morning) and Infant is goin still
08:45:29 <JarnoO> did indeed look like a spritz of water there
08:45:32 <Ryan(-6)> ~48hrs is closer to "normal" anyways.
08:45:38 <Ryan(-6)> 36 was a tad short
08:45:58 <Ryan(-6)> Can we zoom in on Doublet?
08:45:58 <Eric> I have seen 24-48h duration
08:46:12 <Ryan(-6)> I could be wrong (probably are) but something looks hot over there.
08:46:25 <Eric> So ending anytime now seems reasonable
08:46:58 <Ryan(-6)> 36 just seemed odd given how big it was just a couple hours prior. It doesn't tend to just stop.
08:47:14 <Eric> Now I am going to have PGSD
08:47:15 <Ryan(-6)> I think there is very heavy boiling of some kind on Doublet
08:48:08 <Eric> BTW, TSB thought that hole that was erutping near giantess yesterday could be sinter too.
08:48:18 <Eric> Which makes sense, it's very close by
08:48:50 <Eric> thing above marmot
08:51:48 <JarnoO> big Doublet
08:52:13 <Ryan(-6)> I think that wasd an eruption
08:54:16 <Eric> is doublet ie?
08:54:26 <Eric> I assume it would be much larger steam plume
08:55:06 <Eric> It does look hot
08:56:04 <Ryan(-6)> given how small it is now it was definitely doing something
08:56:36 <Kat> I agree
08:56:52 <Ryan(-6)> I think Dragon is, too.
08:57:28 <Ryan(-6)> platew?
08:57:35 <Ryan(-6)> Plate is steaming
08:58:04 <Ryan(-6)> oh, no, thats Roof
08:58:31 <ynpvisitor50> Platoof
08:59:46 <Ryan(-6)> I like that
09:02:11 <Eric> vault steam
09:02:34 <Eric> ghg14
09:02:47 <Eric> looks like a bigger crater
09:04:51 <Kat> What is that front and left - water
09:05:24 <KorbenC(tablet)> Isht that the one from yesterday?
09:05:35 <JarnoO> it is
09:05:36 <Eric> ahh, that is sinter/bench/UTF
09:05:39 <Eric> Yes
09:05:42 <Kat> Unnamed
09:05:49 <Eric> Maybe
09:05:57 <Eric> It could be named :-P
09:06:06 <Kat> :)
09:06:09 <KorbenC(tablet)> Jarnoben:p
09:06:11 <JarnoO> Swiss Cheese #1
09:06:17 <KorbenC(tablet)> Oh
09:06:20 <Kat> haha
09:06:21 <KorbenC(tablet)> I like that JO
09:06:32 <Eric> Well, Sinter & Bench are both in that area...so possibly either of those two
09:06:47 <JarnoO> Clastic could also be it
09:07:16 <JarnoO> I'd expect Bench to be in that white runoff right of the hole
09:07:43 <KorbenC(tablet)> Pump
09:08:08 <Eric> definitely not clastic
09:09:32 <Eric> I cannot find any modern gps reference of Bench location, just TSB map
09:15:23 <ynpvisitor50> what about an ancient gps reference? :)
09:23:06 <JarnoO> Lion doing things
09:23:36 <Kat> :lion:
09:23:54 <Eric> aka erupting :-P
09:24:06 <Kat> :lol:
09:24:13 <JarnoO> ;)
09:24:43 <JarnoO> Kat's in Yellowstone again? So many travels :D
09:24:50 <Kat> I transported again! LOL
09:25:14 <Betty> blame Scotty
09:25:27 <Kat> Thats it Betty!
09:28:58 <JarnoO> next Lion @ 1023±5m if series continues. 3m00s, very strong nonetheless
09:29:02 <Kat> wb Linda
09:29:11 <LindaGt> Kat, thx
09:29:17 <LindaGt> Hi everyone
09:29:22 <KorbenC(tablet)> What's the name of scotty's little broccoli looking friend again?
09:29:32 <Kat> ??
09:29:41 <LindaGt> Broccolli
09:29:44 <LindaGt> Lol
09:29:52 <LindaGt> I dont know
09:29:55 <Kat> Korben LOL
09:30:06 <Kat> Me either
09:30:12 <KorbenC(tablet)> https://www.google.com/search?q=scittys+brolcoli+friend+star+trek&oq=scittys+brolcoli+friend+star+trek&aqs=chrome..69i57j33l2.10967j0j4&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=HWw5lRPt4xjVDM
09:30:15 <Kat> Kidding Lorben
09:30:28 <Kat> Korben*
09:30:42 <KorbenC(tablet)> Kenseer, ok, that makes sense
09:30:43 <LindaGt> How the big girl?
09:31:24 <JarnoO> had a spritz @ 0838, not much observed since
09:31:37 <Eric> This is the only printed reference about bench, other than GoY - "At the southern base of a sinter mound on which the cone of Sponge Geyser is located (Geyser Hill Group of Upper Basin), a violent eruption in 1969 scattered fragmental sinter about a newly created crater. Since the initial explosion, occasional geyser eruptions from 3 to 4112 m high have further enlarged the crater. In this ....."
09:31:39 <LindaGt> JarnoO, 😊
09:31:51 <KorbenC(tablet)> Hi Linda
09:31:58 <Eric> same group of springs, n;'o new fumaroles developed soon after the earthquake, and these w"::re enia!'ged by explosions. One, named "Bench Geyser," is ve;:-:" acu,;e and erupts several times daily ( 1972) to a height of 1112 to 2. m.
09:32:01 <LindaGt> KorbenC(tablet), hi
09:32:19 <Eric> That I could find
09:32:25 <Eric> Hi Linda
09:33:03 <KorbenC(tablet)> So does no one think he looks like a bit of broccoli?
09:33:04 <JarnoO> eruptions to 4112 meters high? Must've been the sight!
09:33:29 <JarnoO> joking aside, thanks for searching for Bench
09:33:40 <JarnoO> dinnertime
09:33:50 <Kat> Or a head of lettuce Korben
09:34:02 <Betty> isn´t it Keenser?
09:34:27 <Kat> OF
09:34:33 <KorbenC(tablet)> Yes Betty!
09:34:40 <KorbenC(tablet)> Kat, that works too
09:34:43 <Eric> Wow...that copy/paste didn't work!
09:34:46 <Kat> Nice light
09:34:54 <Eric> 1.5 - 2 m high
09:35:39 <LindaGt> Hi Eric, Betty, JarnoO,
09:36:07 <Betty> hey LindaGt
09:37:31 <ynpvisitor2> Eric- source?
09:37:55 <Eric> USGS - http://ngds.egi.utah.edu/files/GL03384/GL03384.pdf
09:37:55 <KorbenC(tablet)> Eric, MGM, blame the computer;) so Cooper of you:p
09:38:27 <KorbenC(tablet)> MGM, not mgm
09:39:13 <ynpvisitor2> Thanks. I have a paper copy somewhere
09:39:50 <Eric> Trying to research sinter geyser too...a very poor name for a geyser :-P
09:41:34 <ynpvisitor2> kinda forgot about that paper. Haven't looked at it in years
09:43:26 <KorbenC(tablet)> Water?
09:43:33 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hello
09:43:41 <KorbenC(tablet)> Hi bryce
09:44:08 <SantaFe108 GIAN> theres alot less steam then since I left
09:44:26 <SantaFe108 GIAN> wow that sentence makes no sense
09:44:30 <SantaFe108 GIAN> remove then
09:44:59 <SantaFe108 GIAN> maybe it does, im tired
09:45:13 <LindaGt> SantaFe108 GIANTESS, morning
09:45:57 <SantaFe108 GIAN> morning korben, linda, and everyone else except jarno, afternoon to him
09:46:19 <Kat> SantaFe108 GIANTESS, Morning
09:46:59 <Betty> bbl
09:47:04 <SantaFe108 GIAN> cya betty
09:47:10 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hello kat
09:47:16 <Kat> Grand - Suzanne is there
09:47:24 <Kat> Bye Betty
09:48:13 <ynpvisitor61> Grand ie
09:48:30 <Kat> Hi Kevin L
09:48:35 <Forestbewithyou> Hi Kevin
09:48:44 <LindaGt> Oh sure leave me with nothing 😋
09:49:13 <Kat> Sorry - maybe Giantess will treat you :)
09:49:18 <LindaGt> Uh oh no cactus it must be serious
09:49:30 <LindaGt> Morning Kevin L
09:49:40 <Kevin L> Hi. Internet is down so I figured I would do a test run with cell.
09:49:49 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hi KevionL
09:49:54 <LindaGt> Osprey
09:50:02 <SantaFe108 GIAN> atomic grand for your arrival :)
09:50:03 <Kat> It's Kevin L (no cactus today) LOL
09:50:14 <Kat> LindaGt, saw it
09:50:39 <LindaGt> Kevin L, 👍
09:52:09 <Kat> Nice
09:52:44 <Kevin L> It doesn’t want to give me a picture
09:53:25 <Kat> Thats what happens on my cell too - used to but now doesn't - not sure how to fix that
09:53:42 <Kat> Any ideas out there?
09:54:19 <Bringing the Fi> try a different browser
09:54:45 <Kat> It's chromw now - suggestions
09:54:56 <Kevin L> That is on the app
09:54:59 <Kat> chrome*
09:55:49 <LindaGt> Kevin L, android or apple?
09:56:06 <Kevin L> iPhone
09:56:07 <Kat> I have abdroid
09:56:09 <LindaGt> What is yours kat?
09:56:20 <Kat> android*
09:56:20 <LindaGt> I do too
09:56:37 <LindaGt> I think there is a mobile version of chat
09:56:50 <LindaGt> Where is kor en he knows
09:56:59 <LindaGt> *korben
09:57:01 <Bringing the Fi> I think I've used Safari successfully
09:57:10 <Forestbewithyou> Oh the mobile chat?
09:57:15 <Forestbewithyou> Is that what you need?
09:57:20 <LindaGt> Yes
09:57:24 <Forestbewithyou> I got it
09:57:37 <Forestbewithyou> hang on let me hop on my phone to copy and paste it
09:57:44 <ynpvisitor115> Be sure to have the flash video switch om.
09:57:49 <ynpvisitor20> https://chat.geysertimes.org/mchat.php
09:57:54 <Forestbewithyou> there
09:57:59 <Forestbewithyou> I believe that is the one
09:58:20 <LindaGt> Kevin L, try that link
09:58:29 <LindaGt> You too kat
09:58:35 <Forestbewithyou> It should be just the chat page and nothing else
09:58:46 <Forestbewithyou> without all the stuff on the side
09:59:00 <LindaGt> But it has streaming?
09:59:05 <Forestbewithyou> no
09:59:19 <LindaGt> Nevermind kevin
09:59:35 <Eric> simple is the one with just chat and video
09:59:36 <LindaGt> Kevin cant get streaming on phone and kat too
09:59:41 <Forestbewithyou> oh ok
09:59:46 <Kevin L> That is what I am using for chat.
09:59:49 <Eric> http://chat.geysertimes.org/simple.php
10:00:10 <Kat> No - it's jst the chat
10:00:30 <Eric> that has both
10:00:33 <LindaGt> Oh going to take cam
10:00:41 <Forestbewithyou> yea the one eric has up there is both
10:00:46 <Eric> whether it works on your phone or not, I don't know :-P
10:01:17 <Eric> I need to update those other pages with the latest stuff , like on this page.
10:01:31 <Kevin L> I just get the spinning circle.
10:01:42 <Kat> Eric - it worked
10:01:45 <LindaGp> Got cam
10:01:49 <Kat> Thanks
10:02:06 <Eric> Cool
10:02:22 <Eric> It can depend on your phones bandwidth too.
10:02:43 <Kat> I only get cam and chat
10:02:49 <Kat> Nothing else
10:03:13 <LindaGp> Its simplified inthink
10:04:06 <ynpvisitor41> It good for me!
10:04:17 <Kevin L> As long as I have chat and times in the park it will be fine.
10:05:07 <Kat> Time for some brunch! Hungry bbs
10:05:12 <Eric> BTW, TSB said NOT bench, too far left as jarno mentioned earlier
10:05:23 <Eric> Most likely Sinter or UTF
10:05:43 <Eric> Yes, use just the mobile chat while in the park...works great
10:05:53 <Eric> dont even try the video!
10:06:09 <Eric> Bye Kat
10:06:21 <SantaFe108 GIAN> cya kat
10:06:30 <Eric> Pump!
10:06:37 <Eric> Doublet still very hot
10:07:17 <Eric> Any chance BH went overnight?
10:07:29 <LindaGp> Guess we are back to just bee and the rest
10:08:03 <Eric> Yep, we now return to our regular programming.
10:08:16 <LindaGp> That looks eerie, just a hole
10:08:45 <Eric> park service should be up there climbing in it :-D
10:08:54 <Eric> good time to check out the plumbing
10:08:58 <LindaGp> How long does it take to refill?
10:09:24 <LindaGp> Practice their repelling techniques
10:09:34 <Eric> haha...yep
10:09:41 <LindaGp> *rapelling
10:15:45 <LindaGp> Infant is still blurping mud
10:17:35 <ynpvisitor19> Shoot. Now I can't remember if I've seen people climb into Giantess with my own eyes, or just heard about it second-hand.
10:17:53 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor19, 😊
10:18:14 <LindaGp> Who? Park?
10:18:46 <LindaGp> Is that plume?
10:19:41 <LindaGp> Look little water spurts
10:20:23 <ynpvisitor19> Second-hand stories might have involved Rick Hutchinson (NPS geologist).
10:20:30 <LindaGp> Anyone know what this Is?
10:20:33 <LindaGp> .
10:20:57 <Eric> A hole
10:21:17 <LindaGp> There is water
10:21:28 <ynpvisitor19> The blipping unnamed spring above Plume. Not sure if it has a widely-used unofficial name.
10:21:37 <ynpvisitor2> Not Plume
10:21:43 <LindaGp> Ok
10:22:10 <Eric> I think that is a perpetual UTF
10:23:05 <ynpvisitor2> anyone have a pdf of Magma Intrusion and Volatile Ascent Beneath Norris Geyser Basin, Yellowstone National Park January 2020 Journal of Geophysical Research: Solid Earth 125(2
10:23:07 <Eric> Plume hole is pretty close to the BW right in the turn
10:23:15 <ynpvisitor19> Plume is midway between the bench on the start of the railing, closer to the boarwalk.
10:24:57 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor19, 👍
10:25:24 <LindaGp> Thx
10:26:00 <LindaGp> lion
10:27:26 <LindaGp> Lion looks weird
10:27:37 <JarnoO> not much wind
10:29:58 <Eric> Here is their presentation board 2 - https://www.essoar.org/pdfjs/10.1002/essoar.10501815.1
10:30:11 <Eric> The full text should be available for free
10:30:39 <LindaGp> Indy
10:30:40 <LindaGp> .
10:30:40 <LindaGp> .
10:30:48 <LindaGp> .
10:30:53 <Forestbewithyou> Awesome
10:30:55 <Forestbewithyou> KORBEN
10:30:59 <ynpvisitor2> thanks found the poster and supporting info but not the full text
10:31:39 <ynpvisitor19> Great time for Beehive!
10:32:37 <Kat> LindaGp, I left it for you! Thanks for the text!
10:32:41 <LindaGp> Sorry Kevin L
10:32:52 <LindaGp> Kat, thanks!
10:32:53 <Forestbewithyou> yea thanks for the text linda
10:33:01 <JarnoO> next Lion @ 1129±5m if series continues. 3m28s
10:33:03 <KorbenC(tablet)> What forest
10:33:06 <Kat> :)
10:33:12 <Forestbewithyou> indy
10:33:20 <LindaGp>
10:33:26 <Eric> Hey...little geyser
10:33:29 <KorbenC(tablet)> I know:) ;)
10:33:36 <Forestbewithyou> I know you know
10:33:49 <LindaGp> Maybe giantess will wake up
10:34:09 <Eric> Lori woke up!
10:34:12 <Lori S> thx for txt
10:34:14 <LindaGp> hello Lori hello
10:34:15 <Forestbewithyou> Hi Lori
10:34:16 <Eric> Hi Lori
10:34:23 <Lori S> Eric, lol
10:34:30 <Kat> Afternpn Lori
10:34:37 <Lori S> Hello all :)
10:34:37 <Kat> Afternoon*
10:35:19 <Lori S> Eric, I slept 10 hours yesterday!
10:35:27 <Eric> Nice!
10:35:33 <JarnoO> dreaming of Giantess? :)
10:35:36 <Eric> I haven't slept 10 hours for years
10:35:47 <Lori S> After 3 hrs on Giantessday
10:36:05 <Kat> I love those kind of sleeps! rare though
10:36:07 <Eric> Pump!
10:36:25 <ynpvisitor45> But was the wait for Vault worth it Lori?
10:36:44 <Lori S> ynpvisitor45, sigh, i left at 1240
10:37:14 <Eric> There should be a geyser named pommel near vault :-D
10:37:22 <ynpvisitor45> guess there's always next time
10:37:32 <Lori S> knew i would miss vsult but had i waited, the sun woulda sent me to west in an ambulance
10:38:01 <Eric> No bear jams that way
10:38:03 <ynpvisitor45> need a sunbrella
10:38:21 <Eric> Hide under tall people lori
10:38:28 <Lori S> i am too old to miss that much sleep!
10:38:38 <Eric> :-P
10:38:40 <Kat> Thats what I do Eric! LOL
10:38:50 <LindaGp> Me too
10:38:58 <Kat> :lol:
10:39:17 <Lori S> only shade was from trees near dome...just a sliver
10:39:20 <KorbenC(tablet)> Same here
10:39:27 <Eric> Pump! is putting on a great show back there.
10:39:34 <LindaGp> long indy
10:39:51 <JarnoO> it's not even been 10m observed, Linda :D
10:40:16 <Lori S> a ranger saw me sitting there in my sliver of shade and asked if i was ok. lol
10:40:24 <LindaGp> JarnoO, ☺ I sense it
10:40:26 <Eric> :-(
10:40:28 <LindaGp> Lol
10:40:31 <ynpvisitor45> that is their job
10:40:48 <Eric> Did you tell them no, vault hasn't erupted yet?
10:40:50 <Lori S> ynpvisitor45, good thing
10:40:54 <Forestbewithyou> LOL
10:41:18 <Kat> Lori S, could have said yes - can I have your hat?? LOL
10:41:29 <ynpvisitor45> well Bob finally made it
10:41:30 <Eric> what??
10:41:43 <Lori S> Kat, duh, i shoulda thought if that
10:41:50 <ynpvisitor45> Emily is already in her poncho
10:41:52 <Kat> :)
10:42:01 <ynpvisitor45> you don't have a hat Lori?
10:42:11 <ynpvisitor45> that's geyser gazing 101
10:42:35 <Lori S> yes, i had a hat
10:42:45 <Lori S> and spf50
10:42:46 <ynpvisitor45> oh, ok
10:43:00 <ynpvisitor45> but no sunbrella
10:43:00 <LindaGp> BEE
10:43:05 <Kat> :bee::bee::bee:
10:43:11 <JarnoO> :bee:
10:43:17 <Eric> :heart::heart::heart:
10:43:20 <Kat> Nice
10:43:28 <Lori S> but ran out if the house kinda hasty like and firgot my chair
10:43:30 <ynpvisitor45> Beehive
10:43:31 <Eric> no showers today
10:43:33 <Forestbewithyou> yay!
10:43:42 <ynpvisitor45> want a bet
10:43:58 <Eric> haha...shifty mcshifter geyser
10:44:10 <Kat> :lol:
10:44:12 <Eric> so pretty
10:44:17 <Eric> and tall
10:44:22 <LindaGp> No wind
10:44:26 <Eric> thats at least 30000 meters
10:45:00 <JarnoO> get yer facts straight. That's at least 30001 meters!
10:45:08 <Eric> :-P
10:45:09 <ynpvisitor2> Taller than Giantess was
10:45:25 <JarnoO> that I do have to say, #2
10:45:27 <Lori S> ynpvisitor2, blasphemy
10:45:40 <ynpvisitor45> remember your names are attached to what you post
10:45:48 <ynpvisitor45> for the rest of history
10:46:03 <Eric> I would say that giantess at it's peak was pretty close to BH height.
10:46:16 <JarnoO> though those tall bursts on day two can rival it. Definitely not a bad show
10:46:21 <Eric> But so different, it was hard to tell
10:46:21 <SantaFe108 GIAN> back and wow nice bh
10:46:30 <ynpvisitor2> fairly close yes, but not 200 ft
10:46:36 <JarnoO> also have to take depth into consideration
10:46:53 <Eric> Mark scoped it at 140 I think
10:46:54 <ynpvisitor2> and Bee is lower in elevation
10:47:00 <ynpvisitor45> right
10:47:07 <Kat> angle is different
10:47:10 <ynpvisitor40> Simple physics but still amazing!
10:47:37 <ynpvisitor45> marked scoped what? Bee or Giantess?
10:47:37 <Eric> Now if BH would just last for 48h :-P
10:47:38 <JarnoO> Mark measured it at 147 feet and a bit on day 1 about 20 minutes before the steam phase began
10:47:42 <Eric> Giantess
10:48:11 <Forestbewithyou> Hey Craig
10:48:15 <JarnoO> morning Craig
10:48:18 <LindaGp> Hi craig
10:48:25 <CraigC> Is Giantess still active today?
10:48:27 <Kat> Morning Craig
10:48:28 <Eric> Pump!
10:48:30 <SantaFe108 GIAN> hi craig
10:48:33 <ynpvisitor45> why, most of the gazers weren't on the hill yesterday
10:48:34 <Eric> Nope
10:48:51 <Kat> Sadly :(
10:48:53 <CraigC> Hey forest, jarno, linda, kat, eric
10:48:55 <SantaFe108 GIAN> giantess returned to sleep
10:49:06 <CraigC> Hey sf
10:49:10 <SantaFe108 GIAN> sup
10:49:20 <SantaFe108 GIAN> craigC are you in basin?
10:49:55 <CraigC> Not yet, had to move my trailer to a better site this morning
10:50:17 <SantaFe108 GIAN> very good
10:50:34 <ynpvisitor45> was the old site not level?
10:50:38 <SantaFe108 GIAN> suprising amount of people out and about when OF soon
10:50:50 <Kat> Now for that brunch I spoke of earlier!
10:51:01 <Eric> enjoy Kat
10:51:15 <LindaGp> Mug looks quiet
10:51:17 <CraigC> Have to wait in west to talk with my daughter before she comes up tonight
10:51:21 <Eric> We are back to watching mug
10:51:25 <Lori S> bye kat
10:51:28 <SantaFe108 GIAN> cya kat
10:51:33 <Kat> Need to figure out what I want - that;s the hrd part
10:51:38 <SantaFe108 GIAN> I think mug is waiting for Craig :)
10:51:44 <Kat> hard*
10:51:48 <ynpvisitor45> you mean Gum isn't erupting?
10:51:53 <LindaGp> It may have going inactive because we were ignoring it lol
10:52:00 <Eric> Toast with fig jam :-D
10:52:07 <LindaGp> *gone
10:52:12 <Kat> Mug has been neglected recently!
10:52:14 <SantaFe108 GIAN> LindaGp, it does like its camera time
10:52:31 <LindaGp> SantaFe108 GIANTESS, 😃
10:52:32 <CraigC> I stopped by mug on my way out yesterday, 3c was really strong, mug did a push and fizzled
10:52:44 <Kat> :)
10:53:00 <LindaGp> No 3c I'll come back
10:53:16 <ynpvisitor45> so Three Crater and Mugwump were still active
10:53:26 <CraigC> Eric, i posted an infant video on fb
10:54:10 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor45, last time we looked
10:54:17 <Eric> I was just watching it! Thanks for doing that...great video
10:54:23 <LindaGp> It's been a while
10:54:38 <ynpvisitor45> sorry tired of initials and shortened names
10:54:45 <Eric> has anyone seen one of the early vault eruptions on video from the BW yet?
10:54:54 <JarnoO> Indicator: lead= >12m34s, total= >15m08s; Beehive: 4m39s
10:54:54 <LindaGp> Lc ie
10:55:22 <JarnoO> so a "short" Beehive again
10:55:33 <CraigC> Last night, while at crested, teakettle put out a good surge of steam
10:56:15 <Eric> So does AB seem bigger to anyone else?
10:57:06 <Eric> chirp....guess not :-P
10:57:08 <CraigC> Was little squirt ie last evening, or was i seeing an anemone
10:57:25 <Forestbewithyou> lunch brb
10:57:35 <LindaGp> Aurum splashes
10:57:38 <Eric> don't remember Craig
10:57:44 <Eric> Yes, nice Aurum activity
10:57:47 <JarnoO> Eric, it did seem to have bigger eruptions after Giantess had started
10:58:22 <LindaGp> Of time
10:58:56 <Eric> yerp
10:59:05 <LindaGp> lol wrong way
10:59:29 <Lori S> LindaGp, oops
11:00:25 <Lori S> so, back to Vault... social distancing and
11:00:41 <Lori S> masks were nonexistent
11:00:46 <LindaGp> And then daisy, the geysers are in a cooperative mood, giantess must have scared them
11:01:14 <LindaGp> Lori S, that's not good
11:02:05 <Lori S> as much as i wanted tkbsray for vault, my anxiety movedcmy feet back to the truck
11:02:24 <LindaGp>
11:02:57 <Lori S> that i even went to gh was suprising to me
11:03:03 <LindaGp> If you can't enjoy might as well leave
11:03:16 <Lori S> LindaGp, exactly that
11:03:28 <JarnoO> I think the call of the geysers were too strong, Lori
11:03:34 <LindaGp> Lori S, had to see giantess 🙄
11:03:56 <JarnoO> rare treat, especially considering the 6½ year interval
11:04:25 <Lori S> Yes, Giantess rather made me silly for a bit :)
11:04:42 <LindaGp> Lori S, 😃
11:05:13 <Lori S> JarnoO, if i get covid then i may not be here 7 years from now
11:05:35 <JarnoO> that's another risk
11:05:37 <Lori S> just sayin
11:05:39 <LindaGp> Lori S, I watched it for 11 hrs on computer, that's silly lol
11:05:57 <Lori S> LindaGp, haha
11:06:13 <JarnoO> be cautious the next two weeks or so
11:06:26 <JarnoO> (extra cautious I guess)
11:06:29 <LindaGp> Lori S, have to protect yourself
11:06:47 <Lori S> JarnoO, yes, at work where guests dont wear masks
11:07:09 <LindaGp> OF
11:07:11 <Lori S> :p
11:07:22 <Eric> Morning siegmund
11:07:33 <Eric> or seigmund?
11:07:52 <JarnoO> morning Siegmund
11:08:38 <Siegmund> morning
11:10:43 <JarnoO> Russia just released footage of their Tsar Bomba
11:11:02 <JarnoO> (1961, not this year)
11:11:34 <SantaFe108 Gian> wow im dumb I was going to say OF looks ready then I realized it was post-eruptive since I was in another tab
11:11:43 <JarnoO> haha
11:11:55 <KorbenC(tablet)> SantaFe108 Giantess💤, lol
11:12:38 <Lori S> ok, sleep time. thx again for bhi txt
11:12:39 <SantaFe108 Gian> man I can't wait for Knott's to reopen next year hopefully
11:12:43 <SantaFe108 Gian> cya lori
11:12:46 <KorbenC(tablet)> Bye Oori
11:12:48 <JarnoO> cya Lori, sleep wel
11:12:49 <JarnoO> l
11:12:49 <KorbenC(tablet)> Loru
11:12:53 <KorbenC(tablet)> Lpri
11:12:56 <KorbenC(tablet)> Ugg
11:12:57 <SantaFe108 Gian> lol
11:13:02 <LindaGp> Bye
11:13:09 <Lori S> KorbenC(tablet), haha
11:13:16 <LindaGp> 3c
11:13:30 <KorbenC(tablet)> Lori S, bue
11:13:34 <KorbenC(tablet)> O CV m
11:13:37 <KorbenC(tablet)> OMG
11:13:41 <KorbenC(tablet)> help!
11:14:00 <Lori S> KorbenC(tablet), thats too funny
11:14:01 <SantaFe108 Gian> I think giantess broke korben
11:14:03 <JarnoO> Welcome to the Lindavitis recovery center. How can I help you?
11:14:16 <LindaGp> JarnoO, lol
11:14:30 <SantaFe108 Gian> :lol:
11:14:36 <KorbenC(tablet)> You can give ,e back. My intelligence! Please
11:14:39 <JarnoO> strong 3C @ 1113
11:14:42 <KorbenC(tablet)> Gha
11:14:44 <Lori S> remember, everything you type us attatched to ur name fir all if history:p
11:14:47 <KorbenC(tablet)> Fah*
11:14:57 <KorbenC(tablet)> I quit:p
11:15:09 <Eric> night Lori
11:15:25 <ynpvisitor3> You never saw me, lol
11:15:38 <Lori S> ynpvisitor3, rofl
11:15:45 <LindaGp> 😆
11:15:47 <Lori S> korben who?
11:15:53 <JarnoO> Sorry. Bringing everything back to what it was is not an option. We can provide you with æ, though, which should solve all your problems.
11:16:08 <ynpvisitor3> Lol
11:16:39 <Lori S> ok, bye! hope you all get ynpvisitor3 set straight
11:16:49 <SantaFe108 Gian> lol, thanks lori
11:17:50 <JarnoO> December 12 for Giantess might actually not be such a bad prediction if it has an infrequent eruptions series
11:19:00 <Eric> Nice 3c action
11:19:06 <Eric> Mug should get a chance
11:19:57 <Eric> Interesting Jarno...glad my predictions might be possible :-D
11:23:37 <LindaGp> I guess mug failed
11:25:44 <Eric> I am hoping for 59 - 71 day kinda intervals
11:28:56 <LindaGp> Th last spikes giantess shot out last night were real nice
11:30:18 <BWaggs> Hi Linda, how is your summer going?
11:30:36 <LindaGp> BWaggs, good, how about you?
11:30:44 <LindaGp> Hot!
11:31:06 <BWaggs> Good... trying to stay sane in this crazy world!
11:31:16 <LindaGp> BWaggs, did you see giantess?
11:31:21 <BWaggs> Delta? Three Crater? ... new ones?
11:31:38 <BWaggs> dont see them on the pano
11:31:56 <JarnoO> Delta is apparantly Sput D near Grand
11:32:01 <Forestbewithyou> oh jeesh what did I miss?!?
11:32:08 <BWaggs> I did! Very cool!...6 1/2 years... wow!
11:32:08 <JarnoO> and Three Crater is in North Sister
11:32:16 <LindaGp> Giantess have on screen
11:32:21 <JarnoO> Lion's due soon, by the way
11:32:28 <SantaFe108 Gian> helo forst
11:32:36 <Forestbewithyou> Hello
11:32:42 <LindaGp> JarnoO, yes
11:33:19 <LindaGp> BWaggs, have u seen mugwump?
11:33:35 <BWaggs> no...
11:34:11 <BWaggs> have to go to the Google for those on a map...
11:34:21 <LindaGp> It over with three crater, might be a recording on GT
11:35:12 <BWaggs> will have a look
11:35:14 <LindaGp> BWaggs, I was just there but mugwump didn't erupt
11:35:25 <SantaFe108 Gian> here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yklzbqhHP-g
11:35:32 <Siegmund> I am envious of that empty parking lot...been I dont know how many years since I saw that in August
11:36:23 <LindaGp> SantaFe108 Giantess💤, nice thx. Look at video Santee posted for mugwump
11:37:00 <SantaFe108 Gian> jsj makes very nice videos for geysers :)
11:37:15 <LindaGp> He does
11:38:23 <LindaGp> Daisy
11:38:47 <BWaggs> ah, Ok got it.
11:39:58 <LindaGp> BWaggs, 👍
11:43:12 <LindaGp> Don't see mud
11:45:14 <JarnoO> per notes: water is returning to Cistern. Steamboat dry and quiet
11:46:38 <LindaGp> 3c
11:47:54 <LindaGp> Craig I think
11:47:58 <JarnoO> nice double burst there
11:48:02 <Kat> There's Craig
11:48:06 <JarnoO> that's Craig's car
11:48:15 <LindaGp> Hi craig
11:49:39 <LindaGp> And friends
11:50:02 <Eric> Hi Craig
11:50:44 <Eric> Mug trying
11:52:01 <Eric> Nice 3c action
11:54:06 <LindaGp> Come on mug
11:57:30 <LindaGp> geez
11:57:40 <Eric> I think we have another 5 - 10 m before another try
11:57:57 <JarnoO> I doubt there'll be a Mug on this 3C. Been erupting too long
11:58:24 <JarnoO> if there is, we've got Craig observing, so it's not all lost :)
11:58:35 <LindaGp> True
11:58:53 <JarnoO> nice white color in the runoff now
11:58:54 <SantaFe108 Gian> JarnoO, when you go to yellowstone eventually, which geyser would you try to see first?
11:58:54 <ynpvisitor50> not all who watch Mugump are lost
11:59:09 <LindaGp> At least if Craig catches well have a timw
11:59:16 <LindaGp> *time
12:00:32 <LindaGp> Not that there is much else to look at ☹
12:01:31 <JarnoO> maybe do a slow scan around the basin. Perhaps we'll find something to look at then :)
12:03:07 <JarnoO> JSJ uploaded his webcam captures of Giantess
12:03:22 <LindaGp> Oh nice cant wait to see
12:03:26 <JarnoO> in case you didn't know already
12:04:25 <LindaGp> JarnoO, I didn't notice but I'm subscribed
12:04:59 <ynpvisitor2> Maybe N Goggles will come out to play again
12:05:05 <JarnoO> okay, I saw some JSJ talk earlier, thought you all might have seen the upload already
12:05:32 <SantaFe108 Gian> I did when I went to get mugwump vid
12:05:45 <LindaGp> Maybe Craig could out of truck and do a little dance for us
12:06:01 <JarnoO> :)
12:06:34 <ynpvisitor2> where are those caps uploaded?
12:06:34 <LindaGp> ☺ a jig or something
12:08:07 <JarnoO> the webcam captures themselves are sped up and uploaded to GOSA's YouTube channel. Besides that channel, there are also a few individuals who upload isolated, real-time captures of various geysers seen on the cam
12:08:48 <ynpvisitor2> The JSJ vids was what I was asking about
12:09:04 <JarnoO> #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF1DNQP0zY8
12:09:15 <JarnoO> that's part one of Giantess
12:09:24 <JarnoO> no part 2 yet
12:09:39 <ynpvisitor2> TY. His YT channel
12:10:00 <LindaGp> Then subscribe
12:13:54 <Ryan(-6)> I think you can just leave that duration as exact, JO.
12:14:09 <LindaGp> mug
12:14:18 <LindaGp> Wow
12:14:30 <Ryan(-6)> all of the geysers are happy
12:14:43 <JarnoO> that was a nice one
12:14:56 <JarnoO> Craig will be happy
12:16:19 <JarnoO> Ryan, I guess I could, but I feel more comfortable with the > duration as it was caught near start
12:16:21 <Eric> ok...took 14 minutes :-P
12:16:27 <LindaGp> Irnws.long and fairly big
12:16:32 <Eric> Nice mug
12:16:35 <LindaGp> *it was
12:16:40 <Ryan(-6)> If you count 0902 as the start youd be fine.
12:17:06 <Ryan(-6)> In lieu of in person start times, the YFT trace is standard for a start. If that is what concerned you.
12:17:36 <Ryan(-6)> In rounding for reasonable discussions I think simply calling it a 48hr duration is fine.
12:17:49 <JarnoO> hm, then I'll add two minutes to the duration (0903 E) and call it exact
12:18:03 <JarnoO> I think that's acceptable
12:18:08 <Ryan(-6)> Oh you took 905
12:18:42 <Ryan(-6)> Based on YFT, and the video capture of people stopping and turning I feel very comfortable that 0902 was the start, with the trace showing up at 903.
12:18:43 <JarnoO> yeah, because I didn't feel quite comfortable with 0902ns after the seismo E time
12:19:27 <LindaGp> it showed on seismo?
12:19:50 <Ryan(-6)> The one video of the start, and a couple anecdotal reports, is that the thumping can begin before the immense boiling and flood. So the big cloud which is on the static at ~905 may not have been the exact start.
12:20:02 <ynpvisitor61> You guys caught that last mug? Wowow
12:20:08 <Ryan(-6)> And with YFT malfunctioning, I think the trace may take more time than usual to show up.
12:20:16 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor61, yes
12:20:20 <JarnoO> it did, Linda, but it needed some extra work since the default view we get here is from a malfunctioning part of the seismo
12:20:24 <LindaGp> it was freat
12:20:34 <LindaGp> *great
12:21:07 <JarnoO> the HHN channel of YFT was operating normally at the time Giantess started, so I used that channel
12:21:16 <ynpvisitor61> It wasnt tall, but it had huge broad volume, pretty loud
12:21:36 <JarnoO> I found it very sparkly. Definitely one of the best :)
12:21:48 <LindaGp> when I moved cam down basin the camera pulled back slightly and you could see it was very steamy at giantess along with runoff
12:22:30 <ynpvisitor61> That mug came out of a big boil rather than a surging bubble
12:22:58 <LindaGp> I think it was 09:02
12:23:14 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor61, nice I'm glad I cam back
12:23:35 <ynpvisitor61> Myr1 boiling
12:24:08 <Eric> From Chat on Wednesday:
12:24:11 <Eric> 09:05:34 ‹JarnoO› GIANTESS 09:05:34 ‹JarnoO› . 09:05:35 ‹JarnoO› . 09:05:36 ‹JarnoO› . 09:05:36 ‹LindaGp› Wowow 09:05:36 ‹JarnoO› . 09:05:36 ‹LindaGp› . 09:05:37 ‹Eric› giantess! 09:05:37 ‹JarnoO› . 09:05:37 ‹LindaGp› . 09:05:37 ‹LindaGp› . 09:05:38 ‹JarnoO› . 09:05:38 ‹LindaGp› . 09:05:38 ‹Eric› . 09:05:38 ‹JarnoO› . 09:05:38 ‹LindaGp
12:24:31 <Eric> and that went on for like a 100 lines :-P
12:24:37 <Forestbewithyou> I spent about a minute trying to figure out why there were so many people pinging periods
12:25:05 <Forestbewithyou> I was like "why the crap are people pinging so many periods"
12:25:23 <LindaGp> We were excited
12:25:41 <Eric> many of us have been staring at this cam for years waiting for that!
12:25:49 <LindaGp> Three people were.pinging at once
12:25:59 <Forestbewithyou> Of course. Once I saw the word giantess I started getting a ton of adrenaline
12:26:05 <LindaGp> 3c
12:26:13 <Ryan(-6)> I smiled for sure.
12:26:55 <ynpvisitor61> 3c is louder than i have heard it
12:27:29 <LindaGp> My heart was racing thought I'd have a heart attack if indidnt breathe
12:28:35 <Ryan(-6)> damn sight better than when we only had the UGB static cam
12:28:50 <Forestbewithyou> Same Linda
12:28:57 <Ryan(-6)> you just kind of hoped it would catch a spike.
12:30:06 <LindaGp> When I made it.to lion group in was confused bit looked to right and saw steam from giantess
12:30:14 <LindaGp> Of time
12:37:04 <KorbenC> done with school for the week
12:37:17 <Forestbewithyou> Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!
12:37:40 <ynpvisitor61> 3c is going berserk
12:37:41 <Forestbewithyou> I should say congratulations on completing your first week of school
12:38:29 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor61, on old faithful
12:38:46 <Ryan(-6)> Yesterdayw as the only day I really missed sound on the wc
12:38:56 <Ryan(-6)> You would have heard the whole thing from here plain as day.
12:40:59 <LindaGp> OF
12:41:29 <KorbenC> Hi Ryan
12:41:41 <KorbenC> you got any caving trips planned this weekend before you go to YNP?
12:42:02 <KorbenC> or are they all gonna be in flood stage?
12:46:13 <KorbenC> Hi Kevin, internet fixed?
12:46:16 <LindaGp> Back on mug
12:46:58 <Kevin L> Internet still down. I guess the school district is also down too so no school today.
12:47:06 <LindaGp> Craigs out
12:47:57 <LindaGp> Kevin L, bummer
12:48:28 <LindaGp> mug
12:48:35 <Eric> knock on wood...cam has beenstable too
12:48:37 <Eric> nice mug
12:48:52 <Eric> really wide mugs
12:48:57 <LindaGp> another good one
12:49:58 <LindaGp> Oops didn't say what that was
12:50:02 <Eric> long interval
12:50:17 <LindaGp> It'll be a surprise
12:50:25 <Eric> :-D
12:51:11 <ynpvisitor61> Another good mug
12:51:22 <ynpvisitor69> Mugwump 1213 replay https://youtu.be/GBtIaUjJVd8
12:51:55 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor61, got it
12:52:16 <JarnoO> 3C
12:52:59 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor69, thx
12:53:12 <JarnoO> thanks Joe
12:53:22 <LindaGp> Mug is happy today
12:57:40 <ynpvisitor61> I can see anemone from here
12:58:59 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor61, you can? Must have stopped
13:00:25 <LindaGp> Aurum splashing
13:02:22 <LindaGp> 3c
13:06:29 <LindaGp> Mug?
13:06:59 <LindaGp> I guess 3c
13:09:48 <LindaGp> Thx joe
13:09:53 <ynpvisitor100> Mugwump 1248 https://youtu.be/jH6P9iFDkC4
13:11:46 <Ryan(-6)> Getting hammered with storms here.
13:12:07 <Forestbewithyou> Ryan can you send them my way? we need rain badly here
13:12:07 <LindaGp> Ryan(-6), PA?
13:12:22 <LindaGp> Got darkh3re
13:12:22 <Ryan(-6)> Yup, SWPA. Just got a hail warning.
13:12:27 <Forestbewithyou> I will gladly take them off your hands
13:12:33 <LindaGp> Got dark here
13:12:46 <Ryan(-6)> We got hit last night, too. All our creeks have water suddenly. A few more and we will have some nice waterfalls, finally.
13:12:58 <Ryan(-6)> The big white scar on the hill is wonderful
13:16:42 <LindaGp>
13:18:22 <Ryan(-6)> Wonder what geyser made that shadow?
13:18:31 <Ryan(-6)> Did Black Sand Basin explode?
13:19:23 <LindaGp> 🙄
13:19:33 <SantaFe108 Gian> wierd cloud
13:19:36 <SantaFe108 Gian> weird
13:20:17 <LindaGp> Just acloud
13:20:32 <Ryan(-6)> coffee at 15"20 is ok, right?
13:20:47 <SantaFe108 Gian> yes
13:22:19 <LindaGp> 3c
13:22:23 <ynpvisitor61> Seems like new energy spot on 3 sisters, just south of myr1
13:23:11 <LindaGp> looks like rim on my side.is boiling
13:23:49 <LindaGp> Further eight of 3c
13:24:00 <LindaGp> *right
13:24:17 <SantaFe108 Gian> ts erupting now
13:24:30 <Ryan(-6)> hfs, I will be there in six days.
13:24:47 <Ryan(-6)> Just kind of hit me. I spend most of my time in PA repressing how much I miss Yellowstone.
13:24:55 <LindaGp> SantaFe108 Giantess💤, ?
13:26:40 <ynpvisitor61> LindaGp, it is on the edge closest to the pullout
13:27:02 <SantaFe108 Gian> LindaGp, oops
13:27:42 <ynpvisitor61> Maybe there is current undrrrneath pushing tge energy to the south from my1s vent
13:28:12 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor61, difficult to see so far
13:28:41 <LindaGp> Just saw a blip on my side over last I'd small trees from cam
13:29:16 <ynpvisitor61> It is way too subtle to ever see on cam
13:29:17 <Ryan(-6)> Tornado warning
13:29:22 <SantaFe108 Gian> Ryan(-6), where?
13:29:27 <SantaFe108 Gian> oh
13:30:23 <ynpvisitor61> Daisy
13:30:30 <ynpvisitor61> Mug
13:30:44 <LindaGp> jut saw splash I. Orange are to your left on end
13:31:01 <LindaGp> Well i missed it
13:31:25 <LindaGp> Thx
13:34:11 <LindaGp> Bulger ie
13:36:52 <john> Hello to All!
13:37:12 <LindaGp> john, hello
13:37:40 <john> :thumbsup:
13:38:56 <LindaGp> john, how r ya?
13:39:26 <LindaGp> I guess it's storming by ryan
13:40:54 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> The storms are spinning
13:41:20 <LindaGp> john, some nice mug eruption videos below
13:41:21 <Forestbewithyou> Oh are you near that tornado warning?
13:41:36 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I am *in* it
13:41:41 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> :D
13:41:46 <Forestbewithyou> oh
13:42:01 <john> I am doing good Linda, thanks! Just very hot here in Nevada!
13:42:27 <LindaGp> Yeah. ☹ 90 here with high himidity
13:42:34 <Forestbewithyou> Same here Linda
13:42:43 <Forestbewithyou> 90.5 with 53% humidity
13:43:08 <LindaGp> john, what's the temp?
13:43:44 <ynpvisitor43> Craig installed at Mugwump again?
13:43:51 <SantaFe108 Gian> yes
13:43:51 <LindaGp> We like to play who's the hottest. Lol
13:44:03 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor43, yup
13:44:16 <SantaFe108 Gian> 95 here
13:44:17 <LindaGp> Nice mug videos below,
13:44:21 <ynpvisitor43> His second home
13:44:35 <Forestbewithyou> well good thing kevin isn't here. That way we can actually win Linda
13:44:48 <Forestbewithyou> :)
13:44:54 <LindaGp> Forestbewithyou, John is in Nevada too
13:45:03 <Forestbewithyou> oh
13:45:10 <LindaGp>
13:45:28 <LindaGp> I think only an hour from kevin
13:45:33 <Forestbewithyou> welp nevermind then :)
13:45:34 <john> in Mesquite...
13:46:33 <LindaGp> john, says it's 103.by you
13:47:09 <john> It's a cool 102 here... :)
13:47:23 <LindaGp>
13:48:18 <StaceyM> Wonder if Craig's pup will make a cameo
13:48:24 <Forestbewithyou> mmm balmy
13:49:08 <LindaGp> StaceyM, he has it with him?
13:49:32 <LindaGp> Uh Oh motorcycle gang lpl
13:50:08 <LindaGp> *lol
13:50:27 <LindaGp> Mug
13:51:04 <StaceyM> I thought he mentioned earlier this week he was going to be bringing it....maybe I was wrong
13:51:42 <LindaGp> Tall one
13:52:01 <LindaGp> StaceyM, you.might be right, I think he did
13:52:35 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Have I ever mentioned how much I hate rain wrapped tornadoes?
13:52:45 <KorbenC> Ryan, I fell you there!
13:52:54 <LindaGp> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), ☺ they are so messy
13:53:07 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> There is one somewhere within a mile of me. Can't see it. Think I hear it though.
13:53:23 <KorbenC> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), I hate to break your moment...
13:53:29 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Don't really have anywhere to go... My desk is as about as far in the middle of the building as I can get.
13:53:32 <LindaGp> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), be safe
13:53:32 <KorbenC> but thats a hail core coming your way not a Tornado
13:53:45 <KorbenC> your Tornado warning was canceled.
13:53:46 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Im ok with the hail core.
13:53:56 <KorbenC> It weakend below sever limits
13:54:14 <KorbenC> and radar indicates disorganized, non-tornadic, mesocyclonic rotation instead
13:55:15 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> That's usually how our tornadoes are formed.
13:55:32 <KorbenC> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), yes. But no :)
13:56:04 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> What I mean is we rarely ever have true supercewll activity here.
13:56:17 <KorbenC> you dont need a super cell
13:56:29 <john> Are you ready to take a break Linda?
13:56:34 <KorbenC> you just need two inflows which will create a centeralized pressure difference which causes rotation
13:56:51 <LindaGp> john, yes you can take it
13:56:51 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Yes, and when we get that its usually fairly random.
13:56:52 <KorbenC> a rotating storm doesnt do the trick unless its organized, they just issue warning to be safe.
13:57:04 <SantaFe108 Gian> all these people talking about storms and i'm begging for water to appear
13:57:15 <KorbenC> Ryan, actually, thats kindoff wrong :)
13:57:25 <john> Got it Linda. Thank you!
13:57:25 <LindaGp> controls released
13:57:26 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Whatever you want to believe...
13:57:28 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> :)
13:57:38 <LindaGp> john, 👍
13:57:49 <john> :thumbsup:
13:57:52 <KorbenC> Haha
13:58:01 <KorbenC> in face the rotation has dissipated all together now
13:58:21 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Our conditions for tornadoes spawn rapidly, and typically fall apart just as rapidly.
13:58:22 <LindaGp> john, it's quiet mug has been erupting. bee went. No giantess just the normal stuff. Grand should be soon
13:58:29 <SantaFe108 Gian> I don't remember when the last storm appeared in riverside. been a long time
13:58:55 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I rarely ever get a tornado watch, or a forecast for conditions for tornadoes.
13:59:07 <KorbenC> when it comes to rotation forming any tornado you need instable air, and a high eff inflow, CAPE doesnt matter. you want that eff inflow to be wrapped around a centeral mb drop in order to form centeralized roation, storms can rotate all they want without producing centeralized rotation, generally because of strong convection, or a weaker eff inflow
13:59:20 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> We just go straight to a warning.
13:59:23 <john> Thanks Linda, I appreciate the info and advice!
13:59:52 <KorbenC> Ryan, thats how it is alot of the time :)
14:00:14 <KorbenC> they look for conditions too be "right too perfect" for tornadoes to form in order to not insight as much of a public panic.
14:01:02 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> They still issue forecasts for possible supercells and tornadoes.
14:01:17 <KorbenC> So they predict "isolated thunderstorms some of which may be severe with damaging hail" and they also issue an SPC advisory/MD in order to alert public, chasers, spotters, and other meteorologists too the possibility of severe weather, and htey make it clear to say "Tornadoes and Supercells possible"
14:01:33 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Exactly.
14:01:47 <KorbenC> exactly :)
14:01:50 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> We dont get those advisories.
14:01:59 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> We rarely ever do.
14:02:43 <JarnoO> Ryan having rough weather? Dozed in the last half an hour or so
14:02:44 <KorbenC> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), then you must not be looking in the right place
14:02:48 <KorbenC> because ".Radar mosaic shows a mature squall line over southeast PA extending southwest to near the MD/PA border northwest of Baltimore."
14:03:01 <KorbenC> "The airmass ahead of the storms is characterized as moderately unstable with mid 80s to 90 deg F surface temperatures and dewpoints in the lower 70s. The Reading, PA (KRDG) ASOS recently measured a 50-kt gust at 329pm EDT with passage of the squall line. "
14:03:09 <SantaFe108 Gian> the only times I have been in really bad weathers is usually with my family that live in Kansas
14:03:10 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> The last five tornadoes in this county had no advisories other than a severe weather warning.
14:03:16 <KorbenC> "The squall line will likely move into the greater Philadelphia vicinity during the next 1-2 hours. The strongest gusts will probably occur with embedded inflections/bows in the squall line or with the deeper convective cores."
14:03:29 <KorbenC> Ryan, welcome to politics and NOAA, lol
14:03:39 <Forestbewithyou> LOL
14:03:49 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> That's fine, but the public doesnt recieve those advisories then.
14:03:55 <KorbenC> and Forest knows what I mean by that :P
14:04:10 <Forestbewithyou> I do?
14:04:12 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> **** politics. The last three tornadoes killed people here, and one of them had absolutely no warning issued.
14:04:13 <SantaFe108 Gian> whats the storm type that the hail goes sideways while im in a metal barn and terrifies me
14:04:15 <KorbenC> Ryan, the last time they did that in CO there was litteraly a riot at the school over severe weather, they have a good reason :)
14:04:58 <KorbenC> Ryan, they did FYI, I looked back at radar and watches and saw a Severe Tsm warning, a Special weather statement, a Severe wather stmt and a Tornado warning :)
14:05:25 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> None of those mentioned a tornado until the last one.
14:05:36 <KorbenC> now, ill openly admit that NOAA has its fault
14:05:54 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I get alerts on my phone for all of those I read every single one of them.
14:06:00 <KorbenC> Ryan, "Tornado Possible along with quarter sized hail and winds gusting up to 75 miles per hour"
14:06:24 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> When was that issued and why is it not in any of the warnings, watches, advisories, and statements I have in front of me?
14:06:48 <KorbenC> they never issue statements anymore, that was a severe weather statement
14:07:02 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I have everything except the first four words.
14:07:07 <KorbenC> by issue I mean send it out too the public
14:07:13 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I swear to God. That is not in any notice.
14:07:24 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I got seven in the last half hour.
14:07:31 <KorbenC> you have to get onto the NOAA website, find the MD, and go in. Becuase of NOAAs "oh, were gonna remove weather statements"
14:07:47 <KorbenC> Ryan, right now? I am talking about the ones that killed people :P
14:08:44 <KorbenC> No R, nt to be rude but you didnt, you got the severe weather warning which technically say "Severe Weather Statement" but they issue entirely different things called "Severe Weather Statements" which also have morei nformation, but they are stupid enough not to send push notifications
14:08:45 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Alright let me try to explain this coherently for you.
14:09:14 <KorbenC> OK, because I am tired, and I am messing this up somewhere becuase something doesnt make sense in my tiny little brain :)
14:09:21 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> (Keeping in mind, I hope the giant pine tree isnt down on my house. So cut the smiley emoticons.)
14:09:35 <Forestbewithyou> can you guys do this in your pm's please?
14:09:47 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Forest, shut up. We dont spam in PMs like you.
14:10:08 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I get those notices, KC. I get them as alerts on my phone.
14:10:38 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> They are the ones youre talking about. The last tornado in thsi county was two years ago. We had *zero* otice.
14:10:53 <KorbenC> OMG, I ****ed up just now, lmao, uhm, oops, I looked up the wrong advisorys, uhm, I am very very very sorry.
14:11:02 <KorbenC> That was totaly my fault
14:11:14 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I literally drove into the damn thing and missed it by 500 yards. I only knew it because I *heard* it through the rain.
14:11:38 <ynpvisitor2> tHaT's a MeAnInGfUl nOtE on Tilt's Baby at 1353
14:11:42 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Its ok. I did not think I was yet going insane.
14:11:44 <KorbenC> Instead of putting in "NWS Pittsburg" I out the Mt, Holly on in, bah.
14:12:34 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> I can only think of a few times I ever saw "Tornadoes possible" (or some variation of it) in any notice I received.
14:12:43 <KorbenC> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), but may I just say that tornadoes can form very very quickly, trust me, the people at NOAA work tirelessly in order to get info too the public, sometimes when there are multiple storms they are too piled up too issue so many warnings.
14:12:43 <ynpvisitor95> It's a reminder why some of us prefer to live where the planet doesnt try quite so hard to kill us, that is for sure
14:13:13 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> KC, thats kind of my point.
14:13:15 <KorbenC> Meanign sometimes they can put stuff in late, or not be able too put it in at all. I have seen some of these meterologists after a long day of severe weather, they are dead, they have a hard job.
14:13:34 <KorbenC> If I could fix it beleive me I would :P Give me a high ranking government jobs and I would hire more people
14:13:35 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> My comment isnt towards the scientists.
14:14:14 <KorbenC> because looking at the radar and spotter archives they were issuing 43 warnings per hour, thats alot. And the tornado showed up on radar too.
14:14:52 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Its more towards the general weather we recieve here in SW PA. It rarely follows the 'classic' patterns you'd see elsewhere. Our storms come in, and they follow their patterns across Ohio, then they Hit Fayette County (and the Allegheny Front of the mountains) and all predictions go out the window.
14:15:10 <KorbenC> Same in CO Ryan :)
14:15:12 <JarnoO> #2, I've flagged it because I don't think many people would understand the context in which the note was placed. Entrant should get a notification. Once it's corrected I'll remove the flag.
14:15:43 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> At least in 'tornado alley' you can look at the forecast for the day and say "eh, yeah, that could do something". We just dont here.
14:15:45 <Eric> Seems reasonable Jarno
14:15:52 <JarnoO> was kinda debating between comment and a flag, but my opinion is that a flag is rightfully warranted here
14:16:01 <Eric> Thanks for doing it
14:16:11 <KorbenC> Ryahn, what city do you live near again?/in because I can look too see if theres been any reported damage too any houses, there are 3 spotters in Fayette county right now
14:16:29 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Farmington.
14:16:44 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Thats where the TW was issued for anyways. In Farmington and moving east.
14:17:18 <KorbenC> I see no reported damage other than "minor siding damage"
14:17:36 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Sorry for snapping at you, forest. Hunkering down from a tornado and hoping my house is in one piece really isnt the time to tell me to stop talking.
14:17:54 <KorbenC> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), he left already
14:18:15 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Appreciate that, KC. I have actually been very worried. I have no dependents in the house, but I have untold volumes of notes, journals, maps, etc that are irreplaceable.
14:18:27 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Ah, well, my apology is on the record.
14:19:32 <KorbenC> your house should be in on piece :) L3 doesnt even have anything major on it, so you should be good :)
14:19:40 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> My library at home has over 2000 items in it that range from original prints of karst books from Cuba, to (I shit yall not) an ORIGINAL water weed manuscript from 1883 on the Yellowstone Hot Springs.
14:19:48 <KorbenC> F&M regular cycle 1342 ie
14:20:14 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> The latter stays in sealed plastic, I have never looked at it after I acquired it.
14:21:20 <JarnoO> was about to say, "why not put them in a safe", but over 2000 items in a safe is not quite possible unless you have big bucks...
14:22:56 <KorbenC> Thatll be a delay pls
14:23:11 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> JO, yeah its a major anxiety source for me.
14:23:40 <KorbenC> Ryan(-6) (:$: :$: :$:), now I know to keep an eye on that radar for anything
14:24:17 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Most things like personal journals and photos, etc, get backed up and put in several locations. Those are safe. Some other things are not. I have considered at least getting fire resistant cabinets for them.
14:24:23 <KorbenC> speaking of which though, there is a small section of rotation about 15 miles NE of Markleys burg, high altitude, disorganized, not very strong looking yet.
14:24:29 <Kevin L> You may want to look at gun safes Ryan.
14:24:44 <KorbenC> Fire resistant cabinets might be a good idea
14:24:54 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Kevin L, yeah someday that will be in the cards. It needs to be after I am in a permanent location.
14:25:01 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Safes are hard to move lol
14:25:25 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> 15 miles north of Mkleysburg is me lol
14:25:35 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> alrighty. I am out for the day now.
14:25:40 <KorbenC> and now tis gone :)
14:25:45 <KorbenC> Bye Ryan, stay safe.
14:25:53 <Ryan(-6) (:$: :> Toodles. If you donthear from me tonight its because the house is intact.
14:25:54 <JarnoO> cya Ryan, take care
14:25:55 <Kevin L> They are a pain to move but the do have some smaller ones that aren’t too bad.
14:27:41 <Kevin L> My cable should be fixed by 1130, uh 1315, uh 1500.....
14:27:51 <JarnoO> oh, one of those cases
14:27:57 <ynpvisitor45> Kevin L, 😕
14:28:12 <JarnoO> probably came across some unexpected things
14:28:21 <Kevin L> And no tornadoes here.
14:28:56 <Kevin L> Glad I have OTA television.
14:31:14 <KorbenC> end delay
14:31:47 <Eric> of
14:32:12 <KorbenC> Eric, you might be delayed :)
14:33:16 <SantaFe108 Gian> not only is OF delayed I am the delay
14:33:32 <KorbenC> short
14:33:34 <KorbenC> very short :)
14:33:37 <SantaFe108 Gian> rip
14:34:24 <StaceyM> What is a regular cycle for F & M?
14:34:47 <ynpvisitor2> JarnoO, Thanks for flagging that. I might not have been so nice for that inane comment
14:35:36 <KorbenC> StaceyM, River vent of Fan pauses, then you may get a bottom vent eruption, and then after energy shifts to Mortar it will stay there for a river pause, and then energy shifts back to Fan for a regular cycle.
14:35:53 <KorbenC> an event cycle is usually when main vent splashes
14:35:54 <StaceyM> Thanks
14:35:56 <ynpvisitor45> As of an hour ago road between mud volcano and fishing bridge is still closed
14:36:00 <JarnoO> no problem, #2
14:36:22 <ynpvisitor2> A RV pause is part of an event cycle
14:36:24 <KorbenC> Hi Linda
14:36:32 <KorbenC> ynpvisitor2, one of those pauses :D
14:36:32 <LindaG> KorbenC, hi
14:36:39 <KorbenC> one of those things :p
14:37:06 <ynpvisitor2> No pauses and just striaght thru the vents with nothing else is a regular cycle
14:37:35 <KorbenC> oh, I ugess I was mistaking :)
14:37:45 <KorbenC> but the way I explained it was how Ryan explained it too me :P
14:38:15 <KorbenC> but that way**
14:38:16 <Siegmund> a pause with nothing else out of the ordinary is still an event cycle?
14:38:29 <ynpvisitor2> River pause is what you want to see that is different.
14:38:47 <KorbenC> I thought main vent = event cycle
14:39:03 <ynpvisitor2> A pause is an event cycle. That's when things can build
14:39:10 <KorbenC> actually...
14:39:17 <KorbenC> a regular cycle pauses too
14:39:29 <KorbenC> look in GT and read through regular cycles.
14:39:36 <KorbenC> "RV off 31m" thats a pause
14:39:46 <ynpvisitor2> No river vent pauses is the regular cycle
14:39:47 <Siegmund> there are years when 3/4 of cycles have river vent pauses... so it seemed like maybe there had to be something more than that to merit the distinction. Maybe it varies year to year how the field is used in GT?
14:40:13 <ynpvisitor2> Rv on and the off with nothing else erupting is a RV pause
14:40:18 <KorbenC> "14:39:03 ‹ynpvisitor2› A pause is an event cycle. That's when things can build"
14:40:30 <KorbenC> "14:36:22 ‹ynpvisitor2› A RV pause is part of an event cycle"
14:40:42 <KorbenC> and then "14:39:46 ‹ynpvisitor2› No river vent pauses is the regular cycle"
14:40:55 <KorbenC> all 3 of those things are saying the exact opposite things, lol
14:41:07 <Eric> Because they are different Coop :-D
14:41:23 <Eric> Regular cycle and Event Cycle are two different things
14:41:38 <KorbenC> Eric, I know
14:41:53 <KorbenC> but he said that a RV pause is part of an event, and then a RV pause is part of the regular cycle
14:42:14 <Eric> read what he said and you C/P again
14:43:14 <JarnoO> #2 stayed consistent with their statements, Korben. They said that a RV pause is part of an Event Cycle and also that no RV pauses are in the Regular Cycle
14:43:15 <ynpvisitor2> ‹KorbenC› and then "14:39:46 ‹ynpvisitor2› No river vent pauses is the regular cycle"
14:43:24 <ynpvisitor2> the key word there is NO
14:43:38 <Eric> ahhh, you didn't have to point it out :-D
14:43:54 <Eric> Reading comprehension is a skill that needs to be developed :-D
14:44:13 <ynpvisitor2> Sorry. I have over reacted
14:44:27 <JarnoO> don't worry, we all have our moments
14:44:44 <Eric> I am still working on developing mine :-P
14:45:12 <Siegmund> the only question was whether an RV pause with no other excitement qualified as an event cycle - and apparently at least in 2018 it did
14:45:16 <ynpvisitor2> Many years we don't get bottom vent eruptions or lower Mortar minors
14:45:19 <ynpvisitor12> Developing what
14:45:46 <ynpvisitor2> reading comp
14:45:51 <Eric> Yes 12 :-P
14:46:08 <ynpvisitor12> ;)
14:46:19 <JarnoO> afternoon Graham
14:46:29 <Eric> It's really hard to get past 12!
14:46:34 <GO STEAMBOAT> its an event .. therefore event cycle
14:46:35 <SantaFe108 Gian> hi graham
14:46:45 <JarnoO> afternoon Craig
14:46:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> afternoon/evening
14:46:54 <LindaG> Hi Craig and graham
14:47:03 <CraigC> Hey
14:47:06 <Eric> So if you have lightning event during a regular cycle that makes it an event cycle? :-P
14:47:09 <JarnoO> and also afternoon Deleted Teakettle, missed you in the event/regular cycle talk
14:47:28 <Eric> If you only have a single pause does it make it a unicycle?
14:47:35 <KorbenC> oH, hEY dt! :)
14:47:43 <KorbenC> Stupid caps lock, Hey DT! :)
14:48:00 <GO STEAMBOAT> well ... you can have a Gold pause event cycle, or a MV splashing event cycle
14:48:02 <DeletedTeakettl> yo, kinda sad I missed all the Giantess fun
14:48:11 <ynpvisitor2> cap locks = sarcasm font
14:48:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> or Bottom Vent event cycle
14:48:20 <GO STEAMBOAT> or LMM event cycle
14:48:27 <Siegmund> I would love to see unicycle, bicycle, tricycle come into regular use if multipauses become common again
14:48:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> they may or may not have river pauses
14:48:39 <Eric> So cycling with an event makes it an event cycle and not regular
14:48:46 <Eric> which makes total sense
14:48:57 <CraigC> I miss my bike today, grotto ftn might be up soon
14:49:00 <GO STEAMBOAT> an event makes it an event cycle
14:49:15 <Eric> Ahhh bummer Craig...why no bike in your truck?
14:49:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> one could debate it when F&M erupted from LMM .... but to me thats an "event" too
14:50:12 <JarnoO> DT, JoeN captured the video of the start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYdQak2LSTM and JSJ posted clips of the first morning of the eruption: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF1DNQP0zY8
14:50:17 <CraigC> Daughter meeting me here with her dog, need to throw everything from back seat into back of truck
14:50:19 <Eric> It you hear any popping noises during an event it becomes a popsicle!
14:50:39 <Eric> ahh, dog...forgot!
14:50:48 <LindaG> CraigC, gotta put dog on camera so we can see
14:50:50 <GO STEAMBOAT> oh well, jumped right into the middle of your event thread, sorry
14:51:15 <DeletedTeakettl> we should just take the Rocco approach and go back to calling them hot periods
14:51:37 <Eric> "Yellowstone hotspot volcano"?????
14:51:52 <CraigC> Mug soon maybe
14:51:56 <GO STEAMBOAT> isnt "river on" a hot period?
14:52:11 <ynpvisitor2> I hear PS groaning
14:52:20 <GO STEAMBOAT> have hot periods and regular perids? yeah just confusing
14:52:21 <LindaG> CraigC, those were some good eruptions
14:53:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> that steam cloud at the start of Giantess is a bit of an eye catcher
14:53:28 <LindaG> GO STEAMBOAT, 😃
14:53:44 <GO STEAMBOAT> did anyone get the static frames then too?
14:53:56 <LindaG> No
14:54:04 <LindaG> That I know of
14:54:15 <Eric> Yes...it was definitely a WTF moment graham :-D
14:54:19 <DeletedTeakettl> Nah, just hot periods and "it does that"
14:54:24 <Eric> It's on my server
14:54:47 <ynpvisitor4> so you have your bike Craig C?, just not today?
14:55:10 <Eric> http://geysercam.xyz/ugb/2020/08/08262020.html?t=22.428638
14:55:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> glad Mr ug is back on duty
14:55:40 <GO STEAMBOAT> or Mr Mug
14:55:43 <LindaG> Eric, wow
14:55:53 <CraigC> ynpvisitor4, right
14:56:17 <Eric> You can go frame by frame with the +1 button
14:56:17 <CraigC> Mug
14:56:29 <Eric> that has every frame of the webcam for the day
14:56:51 <Eric> We missed it Craig...waiting for grand
14:57:15 <ynpvisitor4> that was great Eric, thanks
14:57:51 <ynpvisitor4> it's not time for Grand
14:58:04 <LindaG> Well I guess if I had been at mug someone would have noticed that on static lol
14:58:34 <Betty> afternoon all
14:58:38 <CraigC> Wasnt a big mug
14:58:40 <LindaG> Betty, hi
14:59:01 <CraigC> Hey Betty
14:59:04 <LindaG> Grand could be another 45 minutes
14:59:12 <Eric> Hi Betty
14:59:13 <ynpvisitor4> or longer
14:59:43 <GO STEAMBOAT> i remember jake calling on the radio from Churn ... whats that steam on geyser hill? then someone said Giantess has been boiling for a while
14:59:46 <JarnoO> evening Betty
14:59:52 <LindaG> Yesterday it did 5hr 27mi Interval so....
14:59:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> in 2011
15:00:09 <JarnoO> Castle
15:00:12 <Eric> Since we have a lot of new people still here...you can use /gt geysername #oferuptions to get a geysers current eruption data.
15:00:17 <CraigC> Castle
15:00:58 <JarnoO> (you can use /gts as well to show it publicly)
15:01:05 <JarnoO> Example: /gts Castle 10
15:01:08 <Betty> hi LindaG, CraigC, Eric, GO STEAMBOAT, JarnoO
15:01:08 <Eric> Like /gt daisy 7 Will give you the last 7 daisy intervals, a prediction and some other stats
15:01:18 <john> I was waiting for Castle.
15:01:23 <CraigC> I forgot to go to castle and tilts baby lol
15:01:27 <Eric> Wait no longer john
15:01:32 <LindaG> john, 👍😊
15:01:41 <john> :thumbsup:
15:02:06 <LindaG> Eric, oh didnt knowmyou could out a number that's helpful
15:02:16 <LindaG> *put
15:02:19 <JarnoO> Dean changed his Tilt's Baby note to contain more useful information. Flag therefore removed
15:03:03 <StaceyM> Thanks, Eric...that's really helpful
15:04:25 <LindaG> Yeah I've been going into gt and looking up the last few eruptions to get an idea, this excellent
15:05:45 <Betty> hi john, StaceyM
15:05:55 <StaceyM> Hi Betty
15:06:01 <ynpvisitor2> Can someone explain the fascination with Tilt's Baby to me? Tilt was unique and so much more interesting. But the new thing...
15:06:18 <GO STEAMBOAT> so the Giantess bounce in chatters has declined?
15:06:20 <CraigC> No
15:07:48 <Betty> hahaha, Graham :-)
15:08:07 <JarnoO> #2, gazers take interest in some of the weirdest or oddest possible geysers. For example, I'm fascinated with Split Cone while there are many other, more "logical" geysers around to be fascinated with (according to others, that is)
15:08:09 <CraigC> Or what about that silly aurum, not very tall, only 90 seconds.... geez
15:08:20 <ynpvisitor2> iis that meant to be passive aggressive?
15:08:47 <GO TILT's BABY> i prefer Jt
15:08:49 <GO TILT's BABY> Jet
15:08:52 <KorbenC> we all have ageyser like that :)
15:08:59 <KorbenC> My dad loves MC.
15:09:07 <Eric> I assume because its RIGHT next to the BW #2
15:09:08 <Betty> yeah, LC!!
15:09:14 <KorbenC> I am obsesed with LC
15:09:18 <GO TILT's BABY> or Nifty?
15:09:21 <Forestbewithyou> LC is a cute geyser
15:09:27 <Eric> Not super easy to see, but you can check for it on your way through.
15:09:30 <KorbenC> William and alot of oeple like Tilts Baby :)
15:09:31 <CraigC> Me watching tilts baby is my way of being passive aggressive
15:09:59 <Eric> Also, it's pretty central, Castle, Grand, Hill
15:10:00 <JarnoO> SF is fascinated with Sprinkler, for example
15:10:06 <Eric> You can see them all from there
15:10:18 <DeletedTeakettl> Little Cub and... well. DeletedTeakettle.
15:10:25 <Eric> Not a bad place to hang out in the basin.
15:10:27 <GO TILT's BABY> it is a good lokout spot ... although I can rarely stay there
15:10:40 <GO TILT's BABY> unlike Aurum which is an aweful lookout spot
15:10:49 <Eric> hahah
15:11:00 <GO TILT's BABY> need the BW on the other side of Aurum
15:11:01 <Eric> Wow...nice tall Castle
15:11:06 <DeletedTeakettl> Oh, and Velvet. Not that I'll ever be able to visit there again.
15:11:09 <CraigC> In the end, my answer remains; no. Cant explain the fascination
15:11:16 <Eric> haha
15:11:26 <Siegmund> nothing wrong with being fascinated by Sprinkler, let me add
15:11:30 <GO TILT's BABY> well Velvet is superb
15:11:48 <Betty> where´s Velvet?
15:11:55 <Eric> I find TB to be similar to vixen in Norris
15:12:00 <GO TILT's BABY> Shoshone
15:12:04 <Eric> you get close, cool little geyser
15:12:14 <Betty> ah, thx
15:12:16 <ynpvisitor2> So, you can't and not without being dismissively derogatory
15:12:17 <CraigC> I'd like to know why anyone would watch 3 sisters area
15:12:19 <GO TILT's BABY> when its active it does lovely big blue bubbles .. so I have heard :)
15:12:24 <Siegmund> (on the opposite side of the creek from the trail - hence the may-never-get-there-again bit)
15:12:59 <JarnoO> Lion is the large geyser I'm fascinated with. Easily visible and you don't know when it'll do initial or what the series length will be. Also a chance for North Goggle
15:13:00 <Eric> I wasn't derogatory at all...but I think people get pretty defensive about their tiny geysers :-P
15:13:25 <Eric> It's Ok Craig, we know you have a tiny geyser.
15:13:53 <GO TILT's BABY> theres a pic of Velvet in TSB
15:14:11 <CraigC> Mug
15:14:11 <ynpvisitor2> some peoples responses smack of the fairly rude treatment of "Kellyisalice" during Giantess
15:14:32 <Siegmund> seems to me that most gazers adopt a small geyser sooner or later
15:14:35 <JarnoO> Castle major
15:14:45 <GO TILT's BABY> haha, i think we are very mild toay
15:14:57 <KorbenC> at least I didnt just say "your just wrong" I filled them in with the correct data :)
15:15:20 <ynpvisitor2> Doesnt make your behavoir acceptable
15:15:36 <Eric> Yes, let's all play nice please.
15:15:43 <Eric> We all love geyser!
15:15:51 <KorbenC> well, Im not jsut gonna admit that sepctrograms = magma intrusion and gas release at X elevation :)
15:15:55 <Eric> #2 was asking a fair question.
15:16:00 <KorbenC> which is about as wrong as it gets :p
15:16:41 <GO TILT's BABY> free speech, or cansored based on acceptability to whom?
15:16:53 <ynpvisitor2> Really most of us in the right situation will wax poetic about the geysers we love the most
15:16:54 <JarnoO> it's a common misconception about the spectrogram that it shows depth or something. Axis titles really matter there
15:16:56 <Eric> You don't have to agree to it, but you also don't have to be an *** about it either.
15:17:00 <CraigC> Ok, enough chat drama, back to yellowstone in person... later
15:17:08 <JarnoO> cya Craig
15:17:19 <Eric> haha....bye Craig
15:17:30 <Eric> have fun with in basin drama
15:17:41 <Eric> I know you got it there too :-D
15:17:41 <GO TILT's BABY> i will become one of the rude gazers in a week
15:18:11 <GO TILT's BABY> COVID makes me ruder than normal
15:18:36 <Siegmund> waiting patiently for the poetic waxing to resume
15:18:41 <Eric> You need more beer GTB
15:19:46 <GO TILT's BABY> haha ... I have "The Truth" imperial IPA from Flying Dog .. and it tastes wonderful
15:20:06 <GO TILT's BABY> so I am barely getting started
15:20:27 <JarnoO> I think emotions of seeing Giantess for the first time, whether it be in years or for the first time ever, played a role yesterday and ereyesterday too. That can make stuff said seem harsher than normal
15:21:02 <KorbenC> JarnoO, agreed :)
15:21:03 <JarnoO> or simply cut corners because you quickly want to see again what it's doing
15:21:30 <GO TILT's BABY> uhoh .. will there be terms of service agreements now, and defined acceptable and unacceptable behavior?
15:21:50 <GO TILT's BABY> fact checked comments?
15:22:12 <DeletedTeakettl> Or some of us could... I dunno, actually try to not act terrible toward others.
15:22:15 <GO TILT's BABY> DaveSpeak metrics?
15:22:20 <GO TILT's BABY> mm this beer is good
15:22:41 <GO TILT's BABY> 8.7% alc, thats why
15:23:27 <GO TILT's BABY> I keep forgetting to ask .... how is the Support Open Geyser data crowdfunding going?
15:23:27 <DeletedTeakettl> Much of gazer culture is awful. Remember how much engagement that post in the Facebook group got last month about how people perceived gazers?
15:23:33 <john> I hate to ask a geyser question, but are we expecting Grotto before Grand?
15:24:05 <Eric> no
15:24:09 <Eric> grand should be soon
15:24:13 <ynpvisitor2> Post marathon Grotto could be anytime.
15:24:42 <JarnoO> No idea John. Haven't kept the best track of it lately. Since it's not steaming all too much, I don't think it'll go anytime soon
15:25:32 <john> Okay thanks just wondering
15:25:37 <GO TILT's BABY> SInce the gezr communith has steadily grown, i dont think that "much of gazer culture" is aweful ..... its a multi-culture environment with all sorts mixed in. Bt i have been in it for a long time. new gazers seem to like the group and help we provide
15:25:40 <ynpvisitor2> Surely Brian R is down there right now
15:26:01 <JarnoO> yeah, I think Brian will keep an eye on it
15:26:06 <KorbenC> well, y'all arent the best :)
15:26:17 <GO TILT's BABY> SB is a special case especially in the time of Covid
15:26:38 <KorbenC> your not very good teachers, lol. You just seem too go "Hey, you made a mistake, HOW DARE YOU, YOU ARE A TERRIBLE GAZER" :P
15:26:48 <DeletedTeakettl> "New gazers" only includes the group of people we don't completely drive away because of our behavior.
15:27:08 <ynpvisitor2> Using the virus as an excuse to act badly toward others is weak.
15:27:13 <Siegmund> a certain type of new gazer, who fits well into the existing culture, gets adopted into the community quickly.
15:27:15 <LindaG> DeletedTeakettle, lol
15:27:25 <DeletedTeakettl> ...Korben's jesting, but that's actually a valid example.
15:27:31 <Siegmund> The ones who don't... either disappear, or remain on the fringes with the rest of us who dont fit in well
15:27:51 <KorbenC> And trust me from someone who is a new geyser gazer, you really dont teach. Your are not very good teachers when it comes down too it.
15:27:53 <LindaG> You guys are tough
15:28:10 <GO TILT's BABY> well it was part of the argument in the thread on FB. having someone you know and know has been socially distancing isnt the same as a stranger trying to sit next to me, sorry it is different
15:28:25 <KorbenC> Y'all are fun, and I dont mind some critizism, but you never really seem "teach" anyone
15:28:51 <GO TILT's BABY> but we al have different opinions about acceptable behavior now. i wouldnt go to STurgis but I know people that did
15:29:16 <DeletedTeakettl> Not saying everybody interested in geysers needs to be assimilated into the "gazers." However, it is... pretty clear there is toxic behavior, outside of anything to do with COVID.
15:29:26 <GO TILT's BABY> I think there isa lot of explaining goingon, and historical info shared ....
15:29:40 <ynpvisitor2> I wouldn't go to YNP if you want to maintain social distancing
15:29:56 <KorbenC> so GTB you might want to remove the "new gazers seem to like the group and help we provide" because you dont teach, you really are not every helpful, lol, as a young gazer, trust me :)
15:30:10 <Siegmund> there are some who wont/cant teach - others who would if asked right, but dont respond well to the "whatd I miss/whens it gonna go" question, as opposed to asking something that actually shows interest in the process (not commenting on anyone in particular - not sure if KC and I have ever even met in person)
15:30:39 <KorbenC> do you have a real name thats not Siegmund? lol, I remember names :)
15:30:45 <GO TILT's BABY> i agree DT nd SB with its cramped space and long waits is a harder spot. Grand canbe the same day in day out, some peple handle it better than others, not because they are good or bad people, just circumstances
15:31:01 <GO TILT's BABY> sometimes i m chatty at Grand, and sometimes get annoyed by questions over and over
15:31:15 <ynpvisitor2> I am happy to "teach" as I was mentored. But most of the people who ask questions nod and thenn walk away.
15:31:26 <DeletedTeakettl> I'm not just talking about "cramped" places, I'm not just talking about visitor interactions. We are often terrible toward each other.
15:31:27 <Siegmund> Yes. (Now here's an example of someone asking a question and getting the answer he asked for, but not learning much from the exchange.)
15:31:56 <Eric> Yep, sometimes people want to ask, but don't really want to learn.
15:32:50 <LindaG> Sometimes it's hard to ask the right questions if you dont know much about subject but still want to learn
15:33:05 <GO TILT's BABY> you alo get the peple that ask condescending questons too which gets tiring
15:33:27 <Eric> Sitting at SB, I enthusiastically answered questions from engaged individuals. I blew off people who showed little initiative to listen and learn.
15:33:32 <ynpvisitor2> That is why first answers are always short. If they ask for deeper answers they are available, in levels
15:34:01 <Eric> The first part of learning is being patient and listening.
15:34:06 <GO TILT's BABY> how they ask the question is often a good indicator of interest
15:34:07 <ynpvisitor2> literally yes no, I don't know
15:34:30 <KorbenC> If y'all are able to take any critisizm, what id recomend is improving your teaching methods, becuase you dont really teach well, its not even a "you teach OK" its a "you just dont teach, or you teach very poorly" :(
15:34:56 <JarnoO> not everyone has the gift of being able to teach "on the spot", know that
15:35:02 <KorbenC> OF
15:35:10 <KorbenC> JarnoO, I know :)
15:35:18 <DeletedTeakettl> In the vein of visitor interactions, I just so often see a mentality of "I'm not an interpreter, I don't have to answer questions" (which is true) as direct reasoning for "I can just be rude to everyone" (which is not cool).
15:35:35 <GO TILT's BABY> last year, there was someone trying to decide whether to wait for Grand or go see OF. he kept asking and asking and of course we cant tell him what to do .. but we suggested he wander down and look at the river, next turban when he is asking again, suggested he go down and check Beauty ... went on and on, rather annoying to me
15:35:36 <DeletedTeakettl> floooooof
15:35:46 <KorbenC> there are some in the group though, both wc, and in person are very very good teachers, cb, bill, R, Graham, ect. others are not so good :)
15:35:49 <GO TILT's BABY> but he saw Grand and was very happy and thanked us for the info
15:36:16 <JarnoO> a lot also depends on the first impression
15:36:37 <GO TILT's BABY> we all have good and bad days too...haha
15:36:45 <JarnoO> not to forget that
15:36:46 <Eric> Yep
15:37:15 <LindaG> KorbenC, some people are food teachers some are not, most probably didnt become a gazer formthe purpose. You'll gravitate towards those that can help you
15:37:18 <Eric> So much good information gets passed along here! If you have the ability to open your ears here, you will learn a lot.
15:37:24 <LindaG> *good
15:37:29 <ynpvisitor2> Harder to be patient when you've been going on little to no sleep for several days
15:37:37 <Eric> Well, and the patients to sit through the goofiness :-P
15:37:43 <JarnoO> an extra barrier for me is that English is not my native language, which means it takes time to give comprehensive answers on the spot
15:37:59 <Eric> Jarno, you do an amazing job.
15:38:21 <KorbenC> LindaG, I do, thats why I like some people, and dont. /me is an opportunist
15:38:35 <KorbenC> im gonna head outside for a bit
15:38:36 <ynpvisitor2> Still no excuse to be rude. Best is just to isolate the best you can. There are ways to reflect a don't talk to me disposition without saying a word
15:38:42 <GO TILT's BABY> i teach visitors about Grand and then let them answer questons
15:38:48 <Eric> Your continuous contributions to this community are truly great.
15:39:34 <KorbenC> Eric, agreed, Jarno is really good, when I think menotr I think "Jarno and Lori"
15:39:39 <GO TILT's BABY> haha thank you eric, you are awesome too :)
15:39:45 <JarnoO> shorther OF than I had expected
15:40:04 <Eric> GTB, you contribute a ton too :-D
15:40:15 <Eric> So many people do, in different ways.
15:40:33 <GO TILT's BABY> gree #2 .. but places like SB where you are sitting on a chair just invite endless questions
15:40:46 <Eric> I look up to everyones efforts to make the study of geysers better.
15:41:25 <ynpvisitor2> Yeh, I can't stay on the SB platform long
15:41:30 <Eric> Jarno contributes a metric ton while you deliver a full english ton :-D
15:41:44 <Siegmund> it seems to be a smallish percentage who are interested in studying as opposed to eruption-collecting...which is part of the problem trying to tell if someone is worth taking the time to give a long answer to
15:42:11 <ynpvisitor2> so true Siegmund.
15:42:49 <GO TILT's BABY> interesting perspective, I am wondering how many gazers you thing are studying vs collecting?
15:43:02 <DeletedTeakettl> well, there's a place for both
15:43:14 <GO TILT's BABY> its likely a continuous spectrum and people flipping from one to the other
15:43:46 <Eric> ya, I am having a hard time discerning a collector versus a "studier"...I assume one is good and one isn't in your mind.
15:43:49 <ynpvisitor2> heavy on the collecting end
15:43:53 <LindaG> Same thing in birding. Counting species or learning about their habits and migration patterns etc.
15:43:54 <GO TILT's BABY> I guess early on there was a consideration of a GOSA research group ... but i think it fizzled out as too elitist
15:44:10 <Siegmund> ...the ones I never see anywhere except Grand or Beehive (or Steamboat now) are on the fast track to the collector heap
15:44:27 <Eric> I think there is a lot of overlap in the two and you can be both at different times.
15:44:39 <ynpvisitor2> Very few trying to gather data for a Sput or Transaction article. But that requires a lot more time than most have
15:44:44 <Eric> ahhh, I see what you are saying siegmund.
15:44:46 <DeletedTeakettl> I am excited by the science but when I am in the park like to do more relaxed gazing, with some exceptions.
15:44:55 <Eric> and #2 now
15:45:00 <GO TILT's BABY> "collector heap" i like the derogatory tone
15:45:06 <StaceyM> I wouldn't consider myself a studier or a collector....more of an "appreciator"
15:45:13 <Eric> :-D
15:45:15 <Greg> Howdy everyone, busy week, it was great to follow
15:45:22 <Eric> room for everyone in the geyser pile Stacey :-D
15:45:25 <JarnoO> afternoon Greg
15:45:28 <LindaG> Greg, hi
15:45:29 <Eric> Hi Greg
15:45:31 <Siegmund> I would ballpark it at 80% just there to watch, 10% crossovers, and 10% serious interest - I'm prepared to be wrong and find it is 90-5-5 or beyond
15:45:34 <LindaG> StaceyM, hi
15:46:01 <StaceyM> Hi LindaG
15:46:09 <DeletedTeakettl> Hey, watching for enjoyment still counts as serious interest.
15:46:18 <Betty> hi Greg
15:46:43 <GO TILT's BABY> so of 200 gosa mambers, 5% is 10 people
15:46:50 <DeletedTeakettl> Phrasing it as "interested in the science" or "interested in careful observation" etc. would be less derogatory.
15:47:02 <GO TILT's BABY> Korbe can check my math :
15:47:05 <JarnoO> hm, I was wrong with saying OF was shorter than expected. Usual length for the first eruption after a short, 4m35s
15:47:51 <JarnoO> Turban 1539
15:48:02 <GO TILT's BABY> JarnoO is not in theheap, but has never seen a geyser
15:48:04 <Siegmund> the Research Division attempt ran onto the twin rocks of very few interested parties and some hostility from the park Service in the early 90s - elitism way well be part of why the numbers are small, but it didnt need a 3rd reason to kill the effort
15:49:51 <GO TILT's BABY> ok,why did the park service care? were they asking for special access?
15:50:03 <Eric> Well, interesting drama today :-D I feel like I am in Norris all over again :-P
15:50:15 <ynpvisitor2> I am glad to see all kinds of gazers but the trashing of research oriented gazers by others is not acceptable
15:50:28 <GO TILT's BABY> drama, where?
15:50:39 <Eric> :-D
15:50:49 <DeletedTeakettl> The trashing of pretty much any gazer isn't acceptable.
15:50:58 <Siegmund> at one time almost all the research oriented gazers were NPS volunteers (that ended when Rick died)
15:51:13 <Eric> The trashing of any human isn't acceptable....well, maybe a couple.
15:51:30 <Eric> We should be kind to other people in this chat.
15:51:42 <GO TILT's BABY> I am happy to be on the heap
15:51:51 <Siegmund> but our first outbreak of NPS hostility that I was was in the 92ish timeframe...when they were worried that someone would decide rangers did not need basin rove time if volunteers were all over the basin
15:51:58 <Eric> Try to encourage dialog and discussion about geysers.
15:52:13 <Siegmund> the VC was badly understaffed and at risk of more cuts, that part is true
15:52:32 <ynpvisitor2> and still is
15:53:01 <Eric> I might have been wrong...maybe grotto before grand
15:53:21 <GO TILT's BABY> ah ok. the VEC still has volunteer rovers, some experienced gazers and others less so.. but still good vlunteers
15:53:27 <Eric> hopefully grand in 6m
15:53:29 <Siegmund> but they took away our grease pencils so that we couldnt deprive them of the "necessity" to go out and update the prediction boards, and didnt like us talking much
15:54:08 <Siegmund> GOSA was going to host a scheduled evening geyser walk one summer - 93 maybe? - and that got shot down for the same reason, worry that it would hurt the chances of restoring cancelled ranger walks
15:54:32 <Siegmund> we won't know how it would have turned out... the ranger walks didnt come back even with gosa gagged
15:54:48 <GO TILT's BABY> ok, i can understand that. i think some gaers still do some training of new rangers tho
15:55:09 <ynpvisitor2> Resources did have a few meetings with GOSA in mid 90's to look at ways to protect the "resources"
15:55:41 <Siegmund> it degenerated from tension in the 90s to open warfare ten years later. Yes it has gotten better, a little bit, more recently
15:55:44 <john> I was hoping for grotto before grand but OF may be getting in the way...
15:55:49 <ynpvisitor2> 95, and 96 at least I think
15:56:00 <GO TILT's BABY> i think some volunteers still update signs tho .. but not much
15:56:01 <DeletedTeakettl> I've had some success speaking with the YVO folks about how gazers/citizen science can contribute to their mission.
15:56:21 <ynpvisitor2> Lynn was updating Grt FTn this year
15:56:29 <GO TILT's BABY> wow I missed that war .... guess i was too busy collecting geysers :)
15:56:43 <JarnoO> John, don't worry too much about OF. It's still over an hour away
15:56:54 <GO TILT's BABY> i think there were some others last year too in uGB
15:57:04 <Siegmund> They allowed us to keep doing Great Fountain even in the 90s
15:57:37 <john> Ok cook JarnoO... it would be great to have grotto and grand going...
15:57:39 <DeletedTeakettl> What would be helpful is leadership from GOSA, but it seems there are a lot of barriers to making that organization functional.
15:57:39 <GO TILT's BABY> i think you have tobe an official volunteer now, and even then most dot o the signs
15:57:52 <GO TILT's BABY> dont do
15:58:03 <john> cook = cool :D
15:58:21 <GO TILT's BABY> I have never volunteered at OF, so dont know what they do and dont do
15:59:12 <john> sprinkler
15:59:26 <KorbenC> does talking to a ranger group about Beehive count as volonteer work> :P
15:59:45 <GO TILT's BABY> not unless you signed the paperwork
16:00:17 <Siegmund> it is not clear to me what percentage of interested folk are in gosa, either - there are cam people, and fb group people, and gosa associates, but I think all 8 combos of in/out of those 3 groups have significant numbers
16:00:26 <GO TILT's BABY> some rangers welcome discussion with gazers, some dont
16:00:43 <JarnoO> looks like Turban
16:01:00 <ynpvisitor2> Some secretly make fun of gazers.
16:01:14 <DeletedTeakettl> GOSA having actual membership would be a start. More for reasons of accountability to NPS.
16:01:15 <JarnoO> Turban 1559
16:01:46 <GO TILT's BABY> there are a lot more FB group people than gosa membes, and more gosa members tha nchatters for sure
16:02:14 <GO TILT's BABY> why would that make any difference? I never understood that issue
16:02:35 <GO TILT's BABY> i understand the leagality
16:02:47 <Siegmund> I havent been on here much lately.. but fb and gosa both done a good job of driving away some of their oldest/most valuable/willing to share members
16:02:51 <Greg> Let me know when are done driving john
16:03:14 <GO TILT's BABY> wow, sorry you feel that way Siegmund
16:03:28 <john> Okay, are you strapped in and ready buddy?
16:03:43 <Greg> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
16:03:49 <LindaG> Greg, did you catch any of giantess?
16:03:53 <GO TILT's BABY> FB is just a mass of people in my opinion, hardly driving one way or another
16:04:09 <Greg> Yes, almost from the beginning
16:04:24 <LindaG> Greg, that's great
16:04:31 <Greg> You drove great
16:04:33 <GO TILT's BABY> GOSA just doesnt do much ........ at least from where i sit on the heap
16:04:38 <john> You got it Gret!
16:04:50 <LindaG> Greg, thx, you got set up inte t?
16:05:04 <LindaG> *-text
16:05:06 <Siegmund> am curious what sort of 'accountability' you were wishing for, re gosa-nps
16:05:32 <JarnoO> possibly Grotto Fountain steam
16:05:58 <ynpvisitor2> yes Grt Ftn
16:06:09 <Greg> LindaG, no, something told me to take a peak at the cam. so I did
16:06:23 <JarnoO> fingers crossed it's a long one with water above the treeline
16:06:27 <Kevin L> Cable should be fixed by 1130, uh 1315, uh 1500, uh 1650......
16:06:35 <LindaG> Greg, wow, she was calling to you 😊
16:06:45 <LindaG> Kevin L, 👍
16:07:08 <ynpvisitor2> it is erupting. could we zoom in a moment since Grand will be at least a few min
16:07:21 <Greg> It was interesting watching at night, all the lights on her. Hope to some of the vidoes
16:07:21 <Kevin L> I am not holding my breath.
16:07:37 <LindaG> Kevin L, 😕
16:07:47 <Greg> What is?
16:07:50 <ynpvisitor2> Grotto start imminent
16:07:55 <KorbenC> ynpvisitor2, are you in basin?
16:07:59 <KorbenC> Brian?
16:08:05 <ynpvisitor2> no. got a text
16:08:10 <KorbenC> :thumbsup:
16:09:28 <ynpvisitor2> if I was there I wouldn't be here
16:10:33 <LindaG> Good crowd
16:10:45 <Betty> Kevin L, where is your 🌵?
16:10:59 <LindaG> Betty, lol we asked same thi g
16:11:05 <LindaG> *thing
16:11:12 <Betty> hahaaha
16:11:18 <Siegmund> that should be more than enough eyes on grand to keep it from erupting for a while
16:11:30 <LindaG> Siegmund, formsure
16:11:36 <ynpvisitor2> bulger
16:11:39 <LindaG> Geez for sure
16:11:59 <KorbenC> water on GF
16:12:12 <DeletedTeakettl> as in, when bad behavior by a gazer is reported to the NPS, GOSA has a way to say "this is not one of our members" or "this is one of our members, and we will revoke membership privileges"
16:12:15 <LindaG> So is that grotto on right
16:12:31 <LindaG> Geez grotto fountain
16:12:44 <KorbenC> yes Linda
16:13:02 <GO TILT's BABY> bugler
16:13:10 <LindaG> KorbenC, thx
16:13:34 <GO TILT's BABY> oh wow, that sounds like a legal nightmare DT
16:13:44 <Siegmund> that would put gosa even more in the pocket of the nps than it already is
16:13:58 <GO TILT's BABY> then we would have to define standards of conduct
16:14:09 <ynpvisitor2> what is that to right of grotto group
16:14:10 <DeletedTeakettl> Er... to do anything in the park GOSA would *have* to have a relationship with the NPS.
16:14:21 <Siegmund> my conflicts with gosa management have centered around gosa rolling over and playing dead every time it receives a 'request' from nps that limits the gazers in ways tourists arent
16:14:52 <DeletedTeakettl> when you build trust and a relationship, there's less rolling over ¯_(ツ)_/¯
16:14:56 <LindaG> ynpvisitor2, think grotto fountain
16:14:59 <GO TILT's BABY> how often does that hppen SIegmund? I have not heard any
16:15:13 <DeletedTeakettl> Standards of conduct would... honestly be a good thing, in my opinion.
16:15:16 <KorbenC> #2, grotto fountain
16:15:25 <Siegmund> the gosa application has always said that being a member conveys no special privileges re nps
16:15:26 <ynpvisitor2> no behind Grand area znd even more to the right
16:15:39 <DeletedTeakettl> nor should it
16:15:52 <KorbenC> #2, behind Grand and more to thr right is Grotto Fountain
16:16:01 <GO TILT's BABY> Siegmund - it just gets into an anforcement and policing peroble for people that are in the park at various times .... hard to make workable
16:16:18 <GO TILT's BABY> problem
16:16:26 <JarnoO> from right to left are Grotto Fountain, Bijou, Giant, Rocket and Grotto
16:16:41 <Siegmund> but starting a good 10 years ago, nps started telling gosa what it could and couldnt publish - "asked" for no backcountry news, "asked" for no information about areas that were once legal but arent.. .that sort of thing
16:17:38 <GO TILT's BABY> or left to right Jarno?
16:17:38 <john> JornoO or Korben I have looked all over the panorama for Turbin and it is not listed?
16:17:52 <GO TILT's BABY> no, right to left...i need more beer
16:18:16 <KorbenC> John, Turban is right next to Grand
16:18:22 <LindaG> Betty, so the answer I'd kevins internet is down and hes on his phone
16:18:22 <JarnoO> Turban is just right of Grand, John
16:18:29 <ynpvisitor110> I'll remain a number here for this comment. I know many long-time GOSA members. Good people. But some gazers can become very annoying, especially in larger groups. They act like they "own" the geyser and the constant loud chatter really distracts us "civilians" from enjoying what we are watching.
16:18:50 <JarnoO> on good days you can actually see it splashing
16:19:08 <KorbenC> Turban might be ie right now I think
16:19:24 <JarnoO> also the time for it
16:19:28 <GO TILT's BABY> yeah, i have seen that 110. the multiple radios annoy me
16:19:56 <ynpvisitor110> I think that is one reason some rangers dislike the gazers. Too many complaints.
16:20:04 <ynpvisitor2> especially in Giant cage right next to the person calling events
16:20:08 <john> Thanks JarnoO and Korben!
16:20:14 <KorbenC> Grotto
16:20:32 <GO TILT's BABY> ok Siegmund, tanks for the info on backcountry. i saw the changes but didnt know the interaction with NPS
16:21:03 <GO TILT's BABY> backcountry reports from the trails still get through I think
16:21:06 <Siegmund> yes itd help if people could turn down the radios when in large groups - or, hey, even spread out rather than having everybody camp out on the same geyser
16:22:27 <Greg> What would help as well is to allow a touren to sit or stand up close to see, not hear, that is my space.
16:22:31 <LindaG> So does anyone know how far down the water in giantess drops and how long it takes to refill?
16:22:57 <GO TILT's BABY> i am a touron on the heap now ..... title gets longer
16:23:26 <ynpvisitor81> A miracle happened!
16:23:38 <Siegmund> out of sight even from the rim of the crater - people (in uniforms) have gone down into both giantess and vault while they are empty
16:23:47 <KorbenC> Hi Kevin!
16:23:48 <Siegmund> overflow usually takes 3-ish days
16:24:05 <JarnoO> afternoon Kevin. Glad it's fixed
16:24:15 <GO TILT's BABY> yeak, you have your cactus back
16:24:18 <Forestbewithyou> Hi Kevin
16:24:28 <LindaG> Thanks, I dont like that gaping hole 😉
16:25:02 <GO TILT's BABY> GGreg - i try to share, but also get annoyed when someone steps right in front of me. most people are considerate tho
16:25:32 <DeletedTeakettl> Anyway, GOSA becoming an actual organization with members and a code of conduct won't solve all our problems. There would have to be good leadership and a sizeable chunk of folks who'd want to join more organized gazing, two of the biggest challenges. I just feel that way GOSA would a shot at having a relationship with the NPS again.
16:26:20 <GO TILT's BABY> writing the code of conduct would be a nightmare i think
16:26:51 <DeletedTeakettl> As it is for any organization that's loosely tied together.
16:26:52 <Siegmund> I felt obligated to distance myself from gosa if I wanted to be able to talk to nps or yvo, most of the last 11 or 12 years. would be nice to have that change
16:27:03 <ynpvisitor25> Odd how the wolf people that take up all the parking spots with tables and canopies get respect?
16:27:23 <GO TILT's BABY> not trying t be hostile, but what do you envisage for organized gazing DT that cant be ont today? Special access to restricted ares?
16:27:32 <ynpvisitor110> GOSA got a lot of pressure from the NPS after the change in policy regarding travel around back country thermal areas. Reports about back country thermal areas were no longer "acceptable" to try to stay on good terms with the NPS.
16:27:59 <GO TILT's BABY> have tou been a GOSE officer Siegmund?
16:28:21 <Siegmund> The wolf watchers were the eye opener for me... sometime around 2009 I saw them, some nice and eager to share their scopes, some obnoxious jerks... and said "gee, I sure hope that's not what the tourist see when they look at gazers"
16:28:24 <GO TILT's BABY> i think wolfies have similar group dynamics 25
16:28:44 <GO TILT's BABY> ot
16:28:53 <Greg> Happens to geyser watchers and wolf/bear watchers.
16:29:06 <Siegmund> I was very active, but not a board member, at one time (gosa never had 'annual elections', just had officers serve as long as they could stand to)
16:29:51 <GO TILT's BABY> its a board managed nominating process, right, no elections
16:29:55 <Siegmund> I quit contributing anything to their publications after I got asked to sign a sort of I-promise-not-to-offend-the-park-service statement as a condition of submitting an article. That particular policy may well have reversed
16:30:18 <Betty> enjoy Grand, time for sleep
16:30:21 <GO TILT's BABY> oh wow. i dont think they do that any more
16:30:29 <LindaG> Betty, night
16:30:40 <Greg> night Betty
16:30:48 <GO TILT's BABY> the editors can always refuse to publish
16:30:51 <DeletedTeakettl> Something that might make people think twice about their behavior, something that might negotiate a thing like backcountry thermal area permits, an avenue for working on citizen science in aid of NPS monitoring efforts (something that helps all the image of all gazers, regardless of how much they want to engage in science).
16:31:03 <JarnoO> cya Betty
16:31:28 <john> is that bugler?
16:31:41 <LindaG> john, Ot
16:31:43 <Siegmund> that is old tardy - bulger is to left other side of boardwalk
16:32:19 <john> Thanks tried looking at the pano but could not tell for sure. I appreciate it!
16:32:21 <ynpvisitor110> That conversation went no where with Hank Heasler. And the current geology team seems similarly disinclined to create any special training or permit system
16:32:27 <GO TILT's BABY> John - bugler is me deliberatley (mostly) mistying Bulger
16:33:14 <DeletedTeakettl> Not so on the current geology team.
16:33:32 <Siegmund> the few folks who got permits were mostly non-gosa-affiliated, during the heasler time... one more reason to retreat from gosa... the mood there has improved some post-heasler
16:33:52 <GO TILT's BABY> tere are some research and monitoring activities, but limited in scope
16:33:59 <john> Thanks GTB!
16:34:11 <ynpvisitor110> Yeah, but with Bill K gone I'm not sure whether that died on the vine
16:34:34 <KorbenC> people also didnt get the last sput
16:34:39 <LindaG> Storms rolling in
16:34:39 <DeletedTeakettl> Hungerford is a good fellow.
16:34:45 <GO TILT's BABY> not sure, i thought it was still ongoing but imited data has come out
16:35:44 <john> Linda are you getting wind and rain?
16:35:47 <DeletedTeakettl> there's the Cross permit and the Monteith/GOSA permit for the Sawmill Group, the latter of which led to misunderstandings, again due to complete lack of trust
16:36:14 <LindaG> john, yup and lightning, big storm passing over state, southern portion
16:36:32 <LindaG> Not sure if this is,laura
16:36:36 <Siegmund> so that is why the water to the sawmill group was shut off? :p
16:36:40 <DeletedTeakettl> anyway some of the biggest anxiety I heard about was the complete lack of organization of GOSA, and that gazers have accountability to nothing
16:36:44 <GO TILT's BABY> its sad that the info isnt being shared ... but then again I am just a touron on the heap
16:37:17 <DeletedTeakettl> A lot of the temp logger data is uploaded into GeyserTimes, but folks have been slow to write reports/articles about it unfortunately.
16:37:19 <john> Stay safe Linda. Laura did a job on the coast!
16:37:19 <Eric> GOSA is only like 4 people
16:37:35 <Eric> Grand
16:37:38 <KorbenC> .
16:37:43 <KorbenC> nice
16:37:44 <DeletedTeakettl> precisely, but GOSA is still seen as equivalent to "gazers"
16:37:51 <Siegmund> I opined that we'd do better to form a new organization without baggage attached, a while back, but the people to whom I opined all felt theyd rather try to turn around gosa than reboot
16:37:54 <LindaG> john, thanks, cant be too bad. Haha famous last words
16:38:04 <Greg> :grand:
16:38:13 <LindaG> Yay
16:38:17 <GO TILT's BABY> but GT isnt GOSA either
16:38:18 <john> LOL! I hope not! :D
16:38:25 <ynpvisitor2> Current NPS is not particualrly interested in near to surface geology. More focused on deep stuff.
16:38:59 <john> Cool, grotto grand...
16:39:22 <LindaG> john, you got what you wanted 😊
16:39:49 <DeletedTeakettl> Siegmund, I wish I had the resources to create a new org. I agree it would make more sense, given the reality of baggage.
16:40:00 <Eric> GT is NOT GOSA, not even supported by GOSA...a lot of the people here and in the gazer community contribute $ to keep GT going.
16:40:00 <john> Yes, yes I did... :)
16:40:13 <GO TILT's BABY> Linda - I have just got a storm here and heavy rain, probably the start of Laura
16:40:13 <Greg> you are welcome buddy
16:40:14 <ynpvisitor110> I feel my best chance to do volunteer work would be with YVO. Mike Poland is a great guy.
16:40:46 <john> :thumbsup:
16:40:50 <LindaG> GO TILT's BABY, yeah its pretty big ours started about an hour ago
16:40:53 <ynpvisitor110> And so was his predecessor, Jake Lowenstern
16:40:55 <Eric> Jamie at Utah is awesome too!
16:41:16 <ynpvisitor2> Gazers have not had access to logger data for over a year and 1/2. Prior to that they were being poorly maintained by the NPS. Downloading after full not checking them often, allowing them to be destroyed, not placing them on rare geysers for months after activity started.
16:41:18 <Eric> but not sure how much in park volunteer stuff he could support :-D
16:41:21 <john> GTB what state?
16:41:36 <ynpvisitor2> Can't balme gazers for not writing things up if they can't get the data
16:41:50 <KorbenC> GTB, Laura is nowwhere near you :)
16:41:56 <KorbenC> its still SW of Indiana
16:42:36 <JarnoO> we had Bill of NPS taking care of loggers in 2018 or so
16:42:40 <GO TILT's BABY> VA
16:42:42 <GO TILT's BABY> near DC
16:42:43 <LindaG> Yeahmmynradar shows its in kentucky
16:43:05 <GO TILT's BABY> my evil mind is thinking this rain would have been fun yesterday ... haha
16:43:05 <Eric> Bill was really trying on the logger front!
16:43:05 <JarnoO> was also an occasional visitor here
16:43:26 <KorbenC> Gritti w=water iver tge trees'
16:43:33 <ynpvisitor2> Bill was "too busy" to give them decent attention. Nice guy, and he came on here and chatted occassionally but.....
16:43:36 <Eric> Plus gazer engagement
16:43:36 <KorbenC> Grotto water over the trees**
16:43:38 <GO TILT's BABY> whats happened o the GOSA logger data?
16:44:06 <Eric> No idea...but we do have The Cross data, it just needs to get uploaded.
16:44:41 <ynpvisitor110> Bill had to do what his boss wanted him to do and also make time for us and projects he felt needed attention when he had the time.
16:45:32 <ynpvisitor2> Again NPS is not that interested in geyser surface phenomena
16:45:41 <john> Nice twofer Korben!
16:45:46 <ynpvisitor110> Grand is certainly worth the price of admission this afternoon
16:45:55 <Eric> oh ya, no doubt about Bill! He was gung ho for surface geo, but was only one person.
16:46:09 <Eric> Yes, it seems huge
16:46:28 <john> :thumbsup:
16:46:37 <Siegmund> Rick was only one person too - one right person in the right place is sometimes all it takes (or one wrong person to zap it)
16:46:37 <GO TILT's BABY> everyone wants to know when the big one will blow
16:46:39 <LindaG> Doesnt want to be out done by giantess
16:46:59 <Eric> yes, but Rick was the top of the food chain...right?
16:47:04 <Eric> Bill was on the bottom
16:47:08 <ynpvisitor2> OF and Bee tallest today
16:47:22 <ynpvisitor2> Different era
16:47:28 <ynpvisitor110> You mean Jeff?
16:47:39 <john> Linda yeah but giantess kept going and going and going... way cool!
16:48:03 <ynpvisitor110> Giantess had Energizer batteries
16:48:08 <LindaG> It was
16:48:10 <Siegmund> it was a smaller food chain then
16:48:14 <Forestbewithyou> well I am going to head out for a bit. Talk to you all later
16:48:27 <Eric> Yes, but still the top
16:48:30 <john> LOL! For sure 110!
16:48:30 <LindaG> Forestbewithyou, bye
16:48:34 <JarnoO> cya Forest
16:48:37 <Eric> Bye Forest
16:48:58 <ynpvisitor110> Grrr, chat history won't load
16:49:05 <Eric> When you are stuck at the bottom it can be frustrating not being able to do all the things you want.
16:49:21 <LindaG> Right before giantess depression had a big eruption
16:49:40 <LindaG> And filled up quickly
16:49:40 <JarnoO> looks like one and done
16:49:47 <ynpvisitor2> I've had that chat history load problem a few times this week
16:50:14 <LindaG> Clear memory
16:50:24 <ynpvisitor2> did that
16:50:43 <Eric> what day are you trying to load?
16:50:50 <john> Great afternoon in the basin! Thanks everyone!
16:50:51 <ynpvisitor110> today
16:51:09 <JarnoO> G1Q | 10m14s
16:51:11 <Greg> :lion:
16:51:12 <JarnoO> Lion ini
16:51:13 <ynpvisitor2> just won't load today this time. Not sure what 110 was trying
16:51:14 <KorbenC> Lion
16:51:15 <KorbenC> meow
16:51:26 <LindaG> john, nice to see you, bye
16:51:46 <john> Lion Greg!
16:51:47 <JarnoO> I'll hold off calling it ini actually
16:52:15 <Eric> mine won't load today either...must be too full of BS
16:52:41 <ynpvisitor110> I've seen more...
16:52:42 <ynpvisitor2> LOL
16:52:48 <john> Bye Linda. Bye all!
16:53:19 <ynpvisitor2> chore time
16:53:26 <JarnoO> cya #2
16:53:30 <JarnoO> cya John
16:53:37 <LindaG> ynpvisitor2, bye
16:55:08 <JarnoO> Lion initial
16:55:22 <LindaG> That was quick
16:55:34 <ynpvisitor110> So now that there is no chance of jinxing the coverage, I was impressed with how well the camera behaved during the Giantess eruption period
16:56:03 <LindaG> ynpvisitor110, we were very lucky
16:56:29 <LindaG> Ii dont think it failed once
16:58:28 <Eric> bye #2
16:58:49 <Eric> I am not sure why today's chat isn't display! It's loading, just not getting written to the screen :-(
16:58:54 <Eric> Booo technology!
16:59:27 <Eric> Diving head first into code...someone get ready to yank on my feet :-P
16:59:45 <GO TILT's BABY> Flash Flood Warning now
16:59:55 <Eric> Stay safe GTB
17:00:41 <Greg> We have a flash flood watch for Sat and Sunday
17:00:44 <LindaG> It's going to get worse
17:00:49 <GO TILT's BABY> staying home, but if my typing is bad its due to the storm
17:01:20 <LindaG> Greg, arizona?
17:01:35 <Eric> If you really want to read todays chat now...here ya go: https://chat.geysertimes.org/log/index2.php?logdate=2020-08-28
17:01:41 <Greg> yes, az
17:01:45 <LindaG> I'm losing track of where everyone lives
17:02:06 <Greg> :thumbsup:
17:02:10 <Eric> I live with my parents in their basement
17:02:28 <Eric> :-P
17:02:29 <LindaG> Lol
17:02:57 <Eric> Hold up, that use to be a joke...now it's not so funny :-(
17:03:26 <LindaG> Gazer group isnt unique. I see same problems with birding. But in YNP I guess its concentrated.
17:04:21 <Siegmund> birding has some built in incentives to sit quietly and not scare the birds that dont seem to apply with geysers
17:05:12 <LindaG> Siegmund, hehe we gab all the time and other members get mad. But we are on the move a lot.
17:06:30 <LindaG> But some like to collect birds and some like to learn about them, the collectors are looked down upon
17:07:10 <KorbenC> Siegmund, well, SB and I have a thing, anytime theres a good minor and I stand up it dies, both of my eruptions have happened the one minor where I realize, ok, if I stand up it dies. So I crouch, close my eyes, and turn around :P
17:07:59 <LindaG> Some big birders cant be bothered sharing info and others like to teach. Human nature everyone is different
17:08:01 <KorbenC> until they get into the stage of "OK, yeah, its erupting" and then I scream my head off :p
17:08:16 <Siegmund> have you tried staying seated but remaining facing toward it?
17:08:34 <Siegmund> (I havent either - I cant sit still when waiting for a geyser)
17:08:49 <KorbenC> It dies :)
17:09:11 <JarnoO> Aurum 1700ie
17:09:30 <LindaG> JarnoO, 😋
17:09:43 <KorbenC> it has a good concerted sustained, NV vertical and I stand up it dies, if I dont stand up and look away it will build, and build, but once people are like "yeah, its erupting" then I scream my head off and it erupts :P
17:09:44 <Siegmund> am I lagging THAT badly now?
17:10:01 <JarnoO> no, in-basin entry
17:10:04 <Greg> Missed AUrum for of window
17:10:16 <LindaG> I think in basin post
17:11:30 <LindaG> Greg, that happens alot, good thing to do is check aurum on way to OF. Sometimes it will sneak in earlier
17:12:17 <Greg> ya, you are right
17:13:01 <Siegmund> This way we can recapture the excitement of sitting on the hill all afternoon waiting for it, then having it erupt while we are in the trees crossing the river on the way to dinnre
17:13:06 <LindaG> What intrynto do now is say go,from down basin to geyser hill to old faithful so,inhale an idea
17:13:25 <LindaG> Young getting worse
17:13:41 <LindaG> Lol typing getting worse
17:13:56 <Greg> of
17:15:40 <LindaG> I know Kevin checks aurum before old faithful, and hes the aurum man 😊
17:16:15 <KorbenC> well ;) if by Aurum man you mean the guy who Aurum hates, but loves :)
17:16:38 <JarnoO> love-hate relationship :)
17:16:42 <LindaG> KorbenC, 😊
17:17:24 <LindaG> It loves his chickens though
17:17:34 <GO TILT's BABY> i am wishing Kevin many Aurum eruptons on his trip
17:17:45 <LindaG> GO TILT's BABY, hope so
17:17:55 <KorbenC> That would be nice GTB
17:17:56 <Siegmund> hate-hate here. aurum is one of those snobbish girls with a great figure but her nose held up so high she wont speak to you in the hallway.
17:18:05 <LindaG> I guess if you sit there long enough...
17:18:42 <LindaG> Siegmund, 😊 I have so e luck with it, sometimes lol
17:18:50 <LindaG> *some
17:19:02 <JarnoO> Churn
17:19:02 <JarnoO> .
17:19:03 <JarnoO> .
17:19:04 <JarnoO> .
17:19:11 <KorbenC> .
17:19:11 <KorbenC> .
17:19:12 <KorbenC> ..
17:19:17 <KorbenC> YAY
17:19:18 <LindaG> Delayed
17:19:39 <Siegmund> I had luck with Aurum the day after Ear Spring in 2018... and in 1992... but in between, not so much
17:19:44 <LindaG> Greg over tomeightntowrds grand
17:19:51 <GO TILT's BABY> nice. i wonder if we will get a series?
17:20:09 <Eric> Woohoo, today's log history now works!
17:20:15 <Eric> nobody had to pull me out
17:20:29 <Eric> It's all because I said "blank" in a chat
17:20:30 <LindaG> Greg the small eruption by boardwalk
17:20:41 <GO TILT's BABY> near Sawmill
17:20:43 <LindaG> Straight ahead
17:20:57 <GO TILT's BABY> pretty much center now
17:21:20 <LindaG> Looks like it stopped
17:21:33 <LindaG> To left
17:21:52 <GO TILT's BABY> its on the left edge
17:22:05 <KorbenC> Grep, pan left, its just above sprinkler
17:22:05 <GO TILT's BABY> just past the boardwalk to Castle
17:22:18 <ynpvisitor34> try not to miss daisy
17:22:29 <KorbenC> about where that person is now
17:22:31 <GO TILT's BABY> but have to wait 10min or so
17:22:48 <Siegmund> Churn-Daisy in same should be quite doable
17:23:15 <LindaG> We are all back seat cam drivers lol
17:23:23 <Siegmund> sprinkler ie again
17:23:31 <Eric> it does that :-P
17:23:32 <Greg> ha
17:23:35 <KorbenC> Linda, lol
17:23:41 <LindaG> Churn is right above sprinkler
17:23:58 <Greg> appreciate the guidance
17:23:59 <LindaG> By the boardwalk
17:24:09 <Eric> ok...well, I am taking away todays chat logs again...they are getting no respect :-P
17:24:45 <Eric> Next feature, be able to draw on the video with your mouse and send that as a screen shot :-D
17:25:00 <Greg> :thumbsup:
17:25:00 <Eric> or it gets saved in the recorded media list
17:33:39 <Greg> :castle:
17:33:53 <Greg> sorry :daisy:
17:35:55 <LindaG> 😊
17:37:12 <JarnoO> keep an eye on Churn. Should be close to eruption
17:37:21 <JarnoO> if it didn't go already, that is
17:49:42 <Eric> bulger
17:50:29 <Eric> major
17:54:46 <JarnoO> OT joining the fun
18:05:21 <JarnoO> Lion should be soon if the series continues
18:09:14 <Greg> JarnoO, Aurum about 2300?
18:09:29 <KorbenC> Greg, sounds right
18:09:37 <KorbenC> 2330 +/- 2 hours id say
18:09:54 <Greg> :thumbsup:
18:10:03 <KorbenC> but with the recent Giantess its been staying pretty dang close to 5 hours :)
18:10:28 <JarnoO> I'd say look for it around 2130 or so
18:10:33 <GO TILT's BABY> lc
18:10:40 <Greg> so is Giantess done now?
18:10:46 <JarnoO> yes
18:11:03 <Greg> thought so, but wanted to ask
18:11:31 <JarnoO> effects of the eruption can last for a while, though, so if you see unusual things on the Hill you can thank Giantess :)
18:14:00 <KorbenC> oh wait, 17 is 5PM not 7PM, wow
18:14:06 <KorbenC> hahahaha
18:16:30 <KorbenC> meow
18:16:35 <Greg> :lion:
18:22:45 <JarnoO> next Lion @ 1923±5m if series continues. 3m40s
18:22:56 <Greg> :thumbsup:
18:35:41 <LindaG> We hff and so e nice mugs today
18:35:52 <LindaG> *had
18:36:24 <LindaG> Geez typing just as bad
18:36:28 <JarnoO> 3C, might have Mug soon
18:37:13 <LindaG> Have as in take its place?
18:37:58 <Greg> of window
18:38:12 <JarnoO> not sure. Cam was on Three Sisters for too short
18:39:20 <KorbenC(tablet)> My schools update on first week of school, 3 elemerats had to quarantine due to probably covid cases, 2 positives in the same school resulted in a closure, one high school now also closed because a student was a supersoreader, still planning for optional return next week
18:41:44 <LindaG> KorbenC(tablet), 😕
18:46:36 <Greg> of
18:47:13 <Greg> hit return by accident
18:57:38 <JarnoO> OF took its time there
18:58:02 <Greg> it wants center stage
19:00:27 <KorbenC(tablet)> Wow
19:00:38 <KorbenC(tablet)> My tablet has 3 minute delay
19:00:45 <KorbenC(tablet)> It's just starting
19:01:04 <KorbenC(tablet)> But again, I haven't refreshed the camera itself in aweek:)
19:05:19 <JarnoO> gold-colored water
19:22:04 <LindaG> Vienna Philharmonic orchestra playing rhapsody in blue, beautiful
19:23:10 <SantaFe108> hows the geyser
19:23:10 <SantaFe108> s
19:23:24 <LindaG> Done
19:23:51 <JarnoO> had a spritz @ 0838, but that was pretty much it
19:24:12 <LindaG> JarnoO, oh yeah
19:24:26 <SantaFe108> nice of Giantess to make it's presence known once again
19:24:33 <SantaFe108> hopefully it remains active
19:24:46 <JarnoO> definitely something else than "that blue pool on a mound"
19:25:16 <LindaG> Yeah now gaping hole
19:25:24 <SantaFe108> lol
19:25:37 <LindaG> Hope it fills quickly
19:25:51 <SantaFe108> and become the blue pool once more
19:25:53 <SantaFe108> until the next time
19:26:31 <JarnoO> I don't think it'll be completely refilled until perhaps Monday
19:26:32 <LindaG> Yeah
19:26:50 <SantaFe108> really bleached its mat
19:27:03 <JarnoO> I do think that the first water might be visible Sunday late in the day, depending on how fast it fills
19:27:23 <SantaFe108> infant back to normal?
19:27:36 <JarnoO> no idea, haven't seen recent notes of it
19:28:02 <SantaFe108> last note I saw was chocolate boiling but that was this morning
19:28:12 <SantaFe108> atleast I think it was
19:28:19 <LindaG> I think I looked this afternoon at I fant and didnt see mud
19:29:10 <Greg> :lion:
19:29:18 <ynpvisitor3> Lion
19:33:29 <ynpvisitor3> Daisy
19:35:17 <ynpvisitor3> Mug pushing
19:35:42 <SantaFe108> ynpvisitor3, craig?
19:36:29 <ynpvisitor3> Hey
19:37:03 <SantaFe108> how is it at myriads?
19:44:20 <ynpvisitor3> Quiet, low energy
19:45:18 <SantaFe108> maybe it wants you to take a nap after your long drive
19:45:32 <JarnoO> AB
19:48:43 <ynpvisitor3> Nice explosive mug
19:48:55 <SantaFe108> very nice
19:48:57 <LindaG> ynpvisitor3, 👍
19:59:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That was a big Aurum splash
20:02:54 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I think it is in tease mode.
20:03:22 <JarnoO> I'm off for today. Enjoy Lion if OF lets you
20:03:24 <Greg> She knows I am watching haha
20:03:26 <KorbenC> isnt it always in tease mode?
20:03:28 <KorbenC> Bye Jarno
20:03:29 <SantaFe108> cya jarno
20:03:33 <Greg> See ya Jarno
20:03:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Night Jarno
20:03:53 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Most of the time Greg.
20:04:29 <SantaFe108> aurum & castle love to do big splashy nonsense trickery
20:06:03 <SantaFe108> actually I feel like alot of geysers like to do big splashy nonsense trickery
20:06:34 <KorbenC> Kevin L™ 🌵, how have you been?
20:07:34 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Not too bad. I think our heat spell is ending now that I am leaving.
20:07:37 <KorbenC> well, Coopers just made another odd descision, time for a 5 mile walk!
20:08:10 <SantaFe108> quickly! now that hes gone activate the splendid button!
20:08:42 <SantaFe108> Kevin L™ 🌵, museum is laying track this weekend and I got invited
20:08:44 <KorbenC> nevermind, its hailing :)
20:09:00 <SantaFe108> quickly! deactivate the spledid button!
20:09:26 <Splendid> But, but Bryce!!!!!! Why didnt you let me erupt, I wanted too!
20:09:38 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sounds fun SantaFe. I am guessing it is the old fashioned gandy dancer method.
20:09:39 <KorbenC> Im sorry splendid, I tried
20:09:57 <SantaFe108> lol
20:10:04 <SantaFe108> korben's geyser puppet show
20:10:53 <SantaFe108> korben, what big rare geysers have you yet to see?
20:10:58 <KorbenC> Giantess note, pushing some steam.
20:11:12 <KorbenC> SF,in person or on wc? or do both count?
20:11:52 <KorbenC> becuase in person ive seen SB, Giant, F&M, Ledge, Dome ini (if you count that big) Fountain, GF superburst.
20:12:02 <SantaFe108> in preson
20:12:08 <KorbenC> Dep
20:12:09 <KorbenC> ?
20:12:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I have seen Depression too.
20:12:28 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes it is ie
20:12:32 <KorbenC> SF, then just Giantess and Splendid
20:12:39 <KorbenC> Kevin, lol
20:12:44 <KorbenC> and morning
20:12:51 <SantaFe108> was bout to say morning
20:13:04 <SantaFe108> morning looks like the god of fountain types, well and giantess
20:13:56 <KorbenC> in ranking from least favorite to most favorite, Fountain, GF superburst, Ledge, Dome ini, Giant, SB F&M, but if you want my favorite geyser, its Beehive by about 1000 times
20:14:38 <SantaFe108> cone types in the top as expected :)
20:15:20 <KorbenC> frankly though, ledge from the start is spectacular, but dome is jsut "OMG, Dome, wow" :)
20:15:42 <SantaFe108> ive never seen dome ini in person or wc
20:15:46 <SantaFe108> how is it?
20:16:00 <KorbenC> very big bursts, not super tall, but BIG
20:16:15 <SantaFe108> like fountainy stuff?
20:16:18 <KorbenC> very water filled huge bubble bursts that "woosh"
20:16:40 <KorbenC> ish
20:16:51 <SantaFe108> like great fountain bubbles?
20:16:56 <SantaFe108> or dep?
20:17:02 <KorbenC> like really big dep bursts
20:17:08 <KorbenC> alot wider, and taller
20:17:24 <SantaFe108> I love how you can see the bubbles coming up from deep inside dep and when they reach the surface they go BOOM
20:17:50 <KorbenC> it does seem though like it erupted from a pool, because in the 30 minutes prior there was runoff from it
20:18:12 <KorbenC> you cant do that with Dome though
20:19:10 <SantaFe108> is dome considered a cone or just a fountain on a hill?
20:20:08 <KorbenC> I think fountain
20:20:31 <KorbenC> but im sure someone think differently
20:20:45 <SantaFe108> from what you describe it erupts like one
20:21:18 <SantaFe108> swrichign to mobiel
20:26:53 <Greg> of
20:27:40 <KorbenC> Hi kc
20:28:18 <kcmule> yo
20:38:25 <Greg> Controls are released, have a great night everyone.
20:38:37 <Greg> Thanks again for all your assistance.
20:40:45 <LindaG> Greg, night
21:37:45 <ynpvisitor2> lion
21:37:58 <ynpvisitor2> daisy
21:39:27 <ynpvisitor2> 5th Lion in series. Go N Goggles!
21:41:14 <ynpvisitor2> JOe, What kind of filter does to cam use to make thing appear lighter?
21:51:03 <ynpvisitor2> Nice catch Joe. Was just thinking it might be soon!
22:02:04 <SantaFe108> Kevin L are you here/
22:04:15 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sort of. Waiting for the Chief
22:07:25 <SantaFe108> Kevin L™ 🌵, im supposed to start operations classes with the museum on September 5th
22:07:54 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Great. That sounds like a lot of fun.
22:09:53 <Kevin L™ 🌵> My Brother wants to see the museum there too. His wife has been there but he hasn't
22:10:18 <SantaFe108> Kevin L™ 🌵, its really nice on operating days
22:10:38 <SantaFe108> My friend told me they are laying track tomorrow and the director invited me, but I emailed him to be sure
22:11:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I will get with you and make sure we get an operating day.
22:13:54 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Chief is on final approach.
22:19:07 <SantaFe108> Kevin L™ 🌵, :D
22:31:11 <Already Used> Grand?