Showing logs for date: 2020-09-02
00:59:03 <ynpvisitor60> Riverside
00:59:06 <ynpvisitor60> ie
01:27:10 <ynpvisitor60> Hi Michael. Don't think we have a driver right now. Cam hasn't moved in a long time that I can tell.
01:27:55 <Michael> Thanks. and theres daisy. I didn't miss it after all.
01:28:02 <ynpvisitor60> Daisy ie
01:32:44 <Michael> has lion done anything that you know of?
01:33:16 <ynpvisitor60> I haven't seen it but I have been in and out
01:33:41 <ynpvisitor60> I would have thought we'd get an ini quite a while ago
01:35:07 <ynpvisitor60> Probably have to go thru the overnight capture tomorrow to find it
01:35:43 <Michael> yup. Or else it's just taking its time.
01:36:16 <Michael> I'm stuck here for the next 30-60 minutes and wouldn't mind a show.
01:36:42 <ynpvisitor60> last ini was 1109 yesterday
01:36:58 <ynpvisitor60> you in NJ?
01:37:20 <Michael> Cincinnati. also eastern time.
01:37:35 <Michael> and you?
01:37:40 <ynpvisitor60> very early
01:37:57 <ynpvisitor60> CA. finally cool enough to try to sleep
01:39:44 <Michael> Looks like you're not getting relief any time soon.
01:40:28 <ynpvisitor60> nope. supposed to hit 100 here this weekend. in the mts
01:45:20 <Michael> Lion ie. missed the start.
01:48:49 <ynpvisitor60> me too
01:54:31 <ynpvisitor60> 0143 for start
01:57:28 <Michael> That replay feature has fixed an awful lot of my ie times.
01:58:54 <ynpvisitor60> pretty convenient
05:01:08 <Michael> hi Terry.
05:02:47 <Michael> good morning, ryan
05:04:06 <Ryan(-1)> Morning Michael
05:05:01 <Michael> Did steamboat erupt soon enough to give you a chance?
05:06:14 <Ryan(-1)> There is certainly a good chance, but its going to be a doozy.
05:06:25 <Ryan(-1)> Pretty late in my trip.
05:28:26 <ynpvisitor79> Daisy soon 😊
05:29:56 <Ryan(-1)> Lion
05:30:05 <Ryan(-1)> or not
05:30:39 <ynpvisitor79> Yup
05:30:50 <Michael> there was water in there, I'm pretty sure.
05:31:01 <ynpvisitor79> I think so
05:31:07 <Ryan(-1)> Minor?
05:31:13 <Michael> yeah
05:34:25 <Michael> Good. JoeN is catching up on stuff we missed overnight.
05:35:59 <Michael> Got to run again. Probably back in a few hours.
05:36:15 <ynpvisitor79> Michael, bye
05:39:52 <GO STEAMBOAT> Morning. So next SB on Sunday?
05:40:35 <ynpvisitor79> GO STEAMBOAT, you might just make it
05:40:42 <Ryan(-1)> God I hope so.
05:40:47 <Ryan(-1)> I am extending my trip a day to be safe
05:41:17 <GO STEAMBOAT> SB stats didnt change much, 115 total, 100 in 2 years, 50 in one year, 35 this year, 2 ahead of last year
05:41:28 <GO STEAMBOAT> When do you leave now?
05:41:49 <Ryan(-1)> Wednesday morning versus Tuesday afternoon
05:41:56 <Ryan(-1)> I need to confirm with Delta though.
05:42:24 <GO STEAMBOAT> Ok, i hope.it goes by then and.preferably in daylight
05:42:40 <Ryan(-1)> Me too.
05:42:48 <Ryan(-1)> Weather looks great until Monday when the temps drop.
05:42:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> Have a good trip
05:43:05 <Ryan(-1)> Thanks, G
05:43:22 <ynpvisitor4> Has SB been confirmed?
05:43:36 <GO STEAMBOAT> Yes
05:44:10 <ynpvisitor2> Daisy
05:44:31 <GO STEAMBOAT> Cool how the restarts show up on seismo too
05:44:57 <GO STEAMBOAT> Dont thi k they have shown up that early before
05:45:17 <JarnoO> morning all
05:45:20 <GO STEAMBOAT> That clearly
05:45:55 <JarnoO> there have been a few cases where they showed up
05:59:28 <Ryan(-1)> That is a very well defined trace
06:00:24 <Ryan(-1)> I guess the countdown begins.
06:00:48 <Ryan(-1)> I think we are safe Friday and Saturday to go play around in the park.
06:01:12 <Ryan(-1)> Sunday the vigil begins lol
06:24:53 <ynpvisitor2> short
06:27:49 <ynpvisitor2> Linda are you here yet??
06:44:07 <ynpvisitor26> MC
06:46:18 <ynpvisitor26> check out the Dwarf vid from 1913 yesterday. "big" stuff
06:46:44 <JarnoO> will do
06:47:40 <ynpvisitor26> starts late 1925
06:48:34 <LindaG> JarnoO, hi.
06:51:53 <Ryan(-1)> Impressive dwarf action.
06:51:59 <Ryan(-1)> That vent has a history of that.
06:52:55 <LindaG> Lake real pretty
06:53:15 <LindaG> Castle
06:55:14 <JarnoO> morning Linda
06:55:25 <ynpvisitor26> The Dwarf eruption earleir yesterday was good sized but that evening one was much more robust
06:57:48 <JarnoO> is that large Dwarf of yesterday evening Red Dwarf by any chance?
06:58:20 <Ryan(-1)> I thinks.
06:58:23 <Ryan(-1)> I think so.
06:59:29 <JarnoO> fun to see it that large from up close. Previous eruptions by that Dwarf I've seen were either obscured by steam or by the railing on the old cam
06:59:58 <LindaG> Lighting was good
07:00:09 <LindaG> Taking cam
07:00:35 <LindaGp> Got it
07:03:14 <ynpvisitor26> Is there a map of the dwarfs?
07:06:16 <LindaGp> Riverside ie
07:07:20 <JarnoO> actually, there's a Dwarf close to the boardwalk which can do eruptions to 6 feet. Last evening's Dwarf looked like it was further away from the boardwalk than I remember it, even from the old cam's perspective
07:07:30 <LindaGp> Bulger ie
07:08:30 <Ryan(-1)> I would look at David S's video of the big dwarf in 2010
07:09:07 <Ryan(-1)> There is a vent there which has long had a red deposit around it. That I believe is Red Dwarf, and the more I think on it the less I think that is the one we are seeing now.
07:09:10 <JarnoO> David Schwarz? Or another David?
07:09:19 <Ryan(-1)> Though Red Dwarf was perpetual to 2-4ft in 2014.
07:09:23 <Ryan(-1)> That david, yes
07:09:31 <JarnoO> I'll take a look
07:10:20 <LindaGp> Dep is full
07:13:37 <Ryan(-1)> Castle will be very ncie if it majors.
07:15:03 <KorbenC> Happy post SB day
07:15:15 <LindaGp> OF time
07:16:01 <Ryan(-1)> Looks like the Sputs will invade Norris on Sunday and Monday
07:16:27 <LindaGp> no getting rid.of that sun
07:16:57 <JarnoO> Found David S' video. Was taken in 2005, actually, but it does show the same Dwarf as yesterday in action
07:17:56 <JarnoO> interesting to see there was a vent next to it, but I can't seem to find it on a Street View picture taken in July 2016
07:18:11 <JarnoO> https://goo.gl/maps/SXmCom8PhcamgWQRA
07:18:48 <ynpvisitor29> That area has many small holes.all over it
07:19:17 <JarnoO> bison must've had a big ol' party there :)
07:19:32 <ynpvisitor29> Ref, white, and the one close to the biardwalk are the easily identified ones from the BW
07:20:04 <ynpvisitor29> then there are a bubch of others that splash or wrupt or not
07:20:57 <LindaGp> Kevin L should be on hill today
07:22:15 <ynpvisitor26> Link to DS vid?
07:22:27 <JarnoO> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwo48jXML8o
07:23:41 <ynpvisitor26> TY
07:29:15 <LindaGp> There up close and personal
07:29:28 <Ryan(-1)> Will be a nice shot
07:33:11 <LindaGp> OF
07:33:28 <LindaGp> Wow
07:39:58 <LindaGp> Dep still full or full again
07:41:08 <JarnoO> long OF interval ahead. 4m56s
07:44:16 <LindaGp> daisy watch
07:45:20 <JarnoO> morning SF, Bhoffer
07:45:41 <ynpvisitor87> Is kevin here?
07:46:04 <Bhoffer> Good morning
07:46:30 <ynpvisitor87> This is C, i am at daisy
07:46:48 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor87, hi
07:46:54 <LindaGp> Don't see Kevin's name
07:46:58 <JarnoO> morning Craig
07:47:28 <ynpvisitor87> I meant, is Kevin here in ugb
07:47:37 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor87, not sure what time he'll arrive
07:47:39 <ynpvisitor87> Hi all
07:47:40 <SantaFe108> hi craig
07:47:48 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor87, hi
07:49:18 <ynpvisitor87> LindaGp, ill be off of this dashboard more than on. Can you text me when he lets you know where he is
07:49:38 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor87, ok
07:50:21 <ynpvisitor87> Thanks, im going to be checking fm and grotto area after this, then grand
07:50:51 <LindaGp> Ok I'm here till 10 mdt
07:50:59 <KorbenC> probably gonna be regular or event cycles id think
07:51:46 <LindaGp> Geez everything taking its time todsy
07:51:51 <ynpvisitor87> You mean it will do what it does?
07:52:28 <KorbenC> yup! lol
07:52:37 <LindaGp> For sure
07:52:46 <ynpvisitor87> Good to know... lol
07:54:21 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor87, just so you know Kevin talked about spending rim at aurum and depression thought bee would be a bonus
07:54:31 <ynpvisitor87> Stopped and watched a big bull elk bugling at his harem near 7 mile bridge
07:54:51 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor87, nice
07:55:13 <LindaGp> daisy
07:55:28 <ynpvisitor26> YVO update with eruption is up
07:55:44 <ynpvisitor87> Daisy 754
07:56:03 <LindaGp> ynpvisitor87, want me to enter?
07:56:15 <ynpvisitor87> I did
07:56:20 <LindaGp> Ok
07:57:08 <ynpvisitor87> It started real close to the end of the minute, i doubt you saw it clear til after 755
07:57:36 <Forestbewithyou> Good Morning Everyone
07:57:56 <ynpvisitor87> Hey forest
07:58:04 <LindaGp> Forestbewithyou, hi
07:58:37 <Forestbewithyou> Hi Craig, Linda
07:58:52 <SantaFe108> hello forest
07:58:59 <Forestbewithyou> Hi SF
07:59:21 <LindaGp> SantaFe108, hi
07:59:31 <SantaFe108> hello linda
07:59:54 <Forestbewithyou> I start my college course today!
08:00:06 <LindaGp> Forestbewithyou, great
08:00:15 <Forestbewithyou> I am really nervous
08:00:31 <LindaGp> Forestbewithyou, don't be. You got this!
08:00:59 <Forestbewithyou> Thanks LindaGp,
08:01:30 <LindaGp> Forestbewithyou, what course is it?
08:02:30 <Forestbewithyou> Its called weather and climate I believe
08:03:19 <LindaGp> 👍
08:04:32 <LindaGp> Marmot
08:04:49 <LindaGp> dep looks full
08:12:11 <LindaGp> Craig your daisy entry didn't come through
08:21:13 <Eric> Morning all
08:21:25 <LindaGp> Morning eric
08:21:34 <Eric> Hi Linda
08:21:53 <Eric> Weird view on Washburn SW
08:22:20 <Bhoffer> Morning eric
08:22:26 <Eric> Hi Bhoffer
08:22:42 <LindaGp> Looks like something dropped or.collapsed above camera
08:23:00 <Eric> I am thinking it's a shade of some kind to stop morning sun
08:23:27 <Eric> But left up slightly to allow cam view
08:23:48 <Eric> or it could be dead bodies...who knows :-P
08:24:27 <Eric> ahh, I see steamboat went overnight
08:24:35 <LindaGp> Eric, lol I thought it looked like a leg
08:24:58 <Eric> Weird seismic trace following the main eruption
08:25:23 <Eric> any of the kids run their analyzer on it yet this morning?
08:25:38 <LindaGp> grotto ie
08:25:39 <Ryan(-1)> There was a choke about 7 minutes in where wind shift drowned out north vent, then there was 20 restarts.
08:25:42 <Ryan(-1)> Per basin reports
08:25:55 <Eric> oh wow....20 restarts!
08:26:05 <Eric> Thanks Ryan
08:26:38 <Eric> Interesting 20 pulses on the seismo too!
08:27:14 <Ryan(-1)> Those would be the restarts
08:27:58 <Eric> But they look like they don't start until about a little over an hour into the eruption
08:28:47 <Ryan(-1)> Yep.
08:28:54 <Ryan(-1)> GT notes the first restart 70 minutes in
08:29:23 <Eric> wow....that is way cool!
08:29:48 <Ryan(-1)> definitely a seismic trace to save
08:31:32 <Ryan(-1)> Looks like the Sputs will descend upon Norris on Sunday
08:32:04 <Ryan(-1)> All of us but Micah. Will be very fun if we get to see it together
08:32:14 <Eric> Yes, JSJ already attached it to the entry
08:32:21 <Eric> Nice
08:32:33 <Ryan(-1)> JO, or KC should save the SWARM captures
08:32:34 <Eric> Bummer Micah can't be there :-(
08:32:50 <Eric> yes, attaching them to the entry also would be awesome
08:33:09 <Eric> Bummer, I thought Giantess would go overnight!
08:33:23 <Forestbewithyou> Hi Eric
08:33:26 <LindaGp> 😊
08:33:31 <Eric> Hi Forest
08:34:14 <LindaGp> Aurum splash
08:34:59 <LindaGp> BA
08:38:19 <Ryan(-1)> Probable turban
08:39:13 <LindaGp> Nice clear view
08:40:21 <Ryan(-1)> Guess not on this cycle
08:46:44 <LindaGp> Aurum splash
08:51:34 <LindaGp> Another splash
08:51:51 <LindaGp> hurry Kevin ☺
08:53:19 <Eric> Have we seen Kevin yet?
08:53:36 <LindaGp> No
08:54:20 <LindaGp> trying to catch aurum so he has a time
08:56:15 <LindaGp> OF time
08:57:31 <LindaGp> Craig should be at grand
08:58:05 <KorbenC> I am back! :D Now Aurum can erupt
08:58:46 <LindaGp> KorbenC, good you can cover this OF 😊
08:58:47 <JarnoO> alrighty, we'll blame you if Aurum goes while we're on OF
09:00:11 <KorbenC> Do we need Dave to go to Aurum? his luck might make it wait for a while :)
09:01:20 <LindaGp> If Kevin were here that would do it, but I guess he's on his way
09:01:54 <Eric> I don't think Craig does Grand
09:02:04 <Eric> Too many people
09:02:49 <LindaGp> Well he said that's where he was headed, maybe watch from a distance
09:02:57 <Eric> Craig is at Grotto
09:03:03 <Eric> ahhh
09:03:23 <Eric> surprised...don't see him there much, but maybe with all the gazers in town he is making an appearance :-D
09:03:45 <KorbenC> wdym? hes at Grotto alot?
09:03:48 <LindaGp> Pretty sure he said grotto and grand
09:10:01 <JarnoO> morning Stacey, kc
09:14:23 <JarnoO> Grand does major eruptions?
09:14:29 <kc (working)> mornin
09:14:35 <Forestbewithyou> Oh no
09:15:00 <ynpvisitor59> It’s his first post!
09:15:18 <LindaGp> OF
09:15:33 <Forestbewithyou> apparently it was a 5 min as well
09:15:35 <KorbenC> HK wont likethat :)
09:15:58 <LindaGp> might get to see some grand maybe it will short ☺
09:16:47 <LindaGp> Oh I guess not 09:05 ☹
09:16:56 <ynpvisitor59> If it was 905, it’s over
09:17:21 <LindaGp> But it dis short
09:17:51 <Eric> done
09:18:06 <LindaGp> All gone
09:19:37 <LindaGp> Aurum splash still hope
09:22:23 <JarnoO> D0/G1Q | 10m36s (per HK's entry)
09:22:45 <JarnoO> I wonder how long it'll take before HK puts a flag on 0905 maj
09:23:09 <LindaGp> I'll take 20 minutes
09:23:26 <KorbenC> do I flag it? that way once HK flags it its gone
09:24:12 <JarnoO> up to you, Korben
09:24:29 <LindaGp> All he needs to do is change it
09:24:49 <KorbenC> I flagged it, I tried to be nice and just say " Grand does not have major/minor behavior. The major flag would be reserved for geysers like Castle, or Lion. Please remove the major flag on this eruption."
09:25:09 <JarnoO> I'm a bit more cautious with flagging such entries, as the time itself isn't wrong, just an excessive "major" flag
09:25:53 <KorbenC> If they remove the major flag, ill remove my flag :)
09:25:54 <Eric> Yes, comment is probably more appropriate
09:26:01 <Eric> but either works
09:26:18 <Ryan(-1)> Grrr, I tried to comment but it got removed.
09:26:25 <KorbenC> My hope with flagging is that they can see it quicker
09:26:27 <KorbenC> or not :)
09:26:49 <Ryan(-1)> The removal of the post, and thus its flags, makes comments on the flags a moot point.
09:26:59 <KorbenC> Eric, GT needs a way so you can flag parts of the eruption, like flag the duration, or the maj/min bit, not the whole thing
09:27:44 <Eric> Yes, flagging just needs to remove it from the lists of eruptions, not remove the entry if people already have links.
09:27:45 <Ryan(-1)> Or keep the flagged entry, reduce it to the lowest on the priority scale, so the error can be seen.
09:28:13 <Eric> The user should always have access to their own entry, even if flagged.
09:28:18 <JarnoO> so a kind-of "voting" thingy like StackExchange has?
09:28:32 <Ryan(-1)> I think it should still stay publicly visible, IMO
09:28:35 <Eric> It drives me nuts that you can't see you own entry if it gets flagged away
09:28:39 <Eric> AGree
09:31:15 <KorbenC> someone sitting on BW at Aurum
09:31:30 <LindaGp> Splashes getting bigger
09:31:38 <KorbenC> probably thinking "why didnt they put a bench here??" lol
09:31:58 <LindaGp> 😊
09:32:38 <Eric> Pump!
09:32:43 <Eric> minor
09:33:14 <JarnoO> nice play by Sponge there
09:33:27 <LindaGp> Haven't seen Kevin L yet
09:33:54 <JarnoO> I wonder if one day it'll get its act together and does some big play
09:34:19 <Ryan(-1)> its cone suggests not
09:39:43 <StaceyM> Morning Jarno...sorry I missed your greeting earlier, had to step away for a moment
09:39:55 <JarnoO> it happens
09:40:35 <LindaGp> Look at all those people blocking aurum
09:41:33 <Forestbewithyou> Well I going to head out for a bit to make sure I am ready for my college course... Talk to you all later
09:41:40 <Eric> looks like nice boiling there
09:41:42 <JarnoO> cya Forest
09:41:48 <Eric> bye forest
09:41:51 <Bhoffer> Cya
09:41:57 <LindaGp> I see little bit of bacteria to right
09:42:12 <Eric> Yep, not as white already!
09:42:15 <JarnoO> it's attempting to regrow
09:42:17 <LindaGp> not as white as it was befor
09:42:31 <Eric> Lets not miss Aurum!
09:42:38 <Eric> :-P
09:42:52 <JarnoO> copious runoff, though, doesn't look like that has changed overnight
09:43:08 <Eric> Yep, it's pushing water
09:43:17 <KorbenC> school time!
09:43:33 <Eric> ahhh, kids running off the class :-D
09:43:38 <JarnoO> :)
09:44:14 <JarnoO> second class of the year will be Friday morning. This time in-person :)
09:44:18 <LindaGp> 🙄 got sucked in by the bacteria
09:44:28 <Eric> ohh, wow...good luck Jarno
09:44:43 <Eric> My daughter is bored to death in her College Calc II class so far
09:44:44 <JarnoO> time to find out how masks work in trains. Not that I'm all too worried
09:44:53 <Eric> Hopefully it ramps up a lot more.
09:46:04 <JarnoO> might actually travel first class as long as the virus wanders around. Gives me a good excuse to use that first class subscription I usually use when it's way too busy in the train
09:46:39 <Eric> Nice
09:47:06 <Eric> First class is definitely a pleasant way to travel on trains :-D
09:51:34 <Kat> Good morning gazers!
09:51:51 <Bhoffer> Good morning Kat
09:52:08 <JarnoO> well, in Dutch trains it's pretty much only some extra legroom and wider seats (2+1 seats instead of 2+2 in 2nd class). Otherwise it's pretty much equal to 2nd class
09:52:30 <Kat> Bhoffer, Hi
09:52:31 <JarnoO> Craig got his Rocket :)
09:52:36 <JarnoO> morning Michael, Kat
09:52:47 <Michael> Hi Jarno, and everyone.
09:52:48 <Eric> I am going to stop the DVR capture here and adjust a setting...captures will be down for a few
09:53:09 <Michael> Time for Aurum, then.
09:53:17 <JarnoO> haha
09:53:39 <Michael> I suppose I should dream bigger. Time for Lioness.
09:53:49 <Kat> :lol:
09:54:03 <Kat> Nice splashing
09:54:04 <LindaGp> Michael, 😊
09:54:09 <LindaGp> Kat, hi
09:54:16 <JarnoO> GO BEACHES TO 15FT!
09:54:32 <Kat> LindaGp, JarnoO, Michael, Eric - Hi
09:54:40 <LindaGp> Kat, you can take cam if you want
09:54:49 <Kat> OK
09:54:57 <Kat> Let me sign in
09:55:40 <Kat> Got it! have a good afternoon!
09:56:03 <LindaGp> You too! Be back at 13:00
09:56:09 <JarnoO> cya Linda
09:56:21 <LindaGp> Controls relwased. Happy aurum
09:56:35 <Kat> :)
09:56:50 <Kat> See you then
09:57:07 <Eric> alright...restarted...hopefully that will work :-D
09:57:23 <Eric> Maybe improved segmentation
09:57:38 <Eric> Is that Kevin out there?
09:58:11 <Eric> Guess we will see how long he hangs out.
09:58:55 <JarnoO> Daisy 0957
10:00:00 <JarnoO> looks like you got a capture which starts at a cam stutter
10:00:38 <JarnoO> dinnertime. Enjoy Aurum
10:02:33 <Eric> much better segmentation now!
10:02:54 <Kat> Wish there was a different angle on Aurum
10:05:24 <Eric> I like that I am getting EXACT timeframes now, not just close approximations
10:05:50 <Eric> and within 10 seconds of when I asked for the video
10:06:20 <Eric> So if you ask for [3] you will get a 3 minute video
10:07:09 <Eric> if you have low lag, it will end about 10 seconds before you request it.
10:14:33 <Kat> It's that time again
10:16:11 <Kat> Cam stopped
10:17:17 <Kat> Cam definitely down
10:28:57 <Eric> Kevin break the cam?
10:31:40 <ynpvisitor26> KrazyBB another "maj" post on Daisy now. And his time for Rocket is 1 min different from Craig's.
10:32:51 <Kat1> Static stuck on 1014 too
10:38:13 <SantaFe108> back
10:41:14 <Kat1> I sent a message to David K about cam being down.
10:41:49 <ynpvisitor26> At least it did not break during Giantess
10:42:37 <Kat1> Eric, I can't even get into the control cam
10:45:27 <JarnoO> maybe a power outage
10:45:51 <Kat1> Could be
10:46:06 <SantaFe108> hello janro
10:46:47 <JarnoO> hi SF
10:47:26 <SantaFe108> has anyone talked to KrazzyBB and the majors
10:47:51 <JarnoO> looks like YFT has stopped working as well at the same time
10:48:20 <SantaFe108> besides the camera(s) down and YFT down the chatbox is randomly kicking me out
10:48:53 <Kat1> JarnoO, didn't notice that
10:54:17 <LindaGp> Kevin will be thrilled lol
10:54:50 <LindaGp> Sitting outside sweating waiting to go into chiro 😞
10:55:00 <JarnoO> there's the cam
10:55:05 <JarnoO> was...
10:55:13 <LindaGp> I fixed it, you are welcome
10:55:21 <Kat1> Hahaha
10:55:23 <LindaGp> I tried anyway
10:55:43 <Kat1> Spinning
10:55:54 <LindaGp> Yup
10:56:12 <JarnoO> there it is again
10:56:13 <Kat1> It's up
10:56:23 <JarnoO> or was
10:56:33 <Eric> yoyo cam
10:56:34 <JarnoO> or is
10:56:52 <Kat1> I'm in controls and cam is working
10:57:03 <Eric> Working here too now
10:57:21 <Eric> No aurum report yet!
10:57:23 <JarnoO> I'd say look for OF again in some 45 minutes or so
10:57:26 <Eric> Meeting done!
10:57:37 <Kat1> :)
10:58:05 <Kat1> No aurum yet!
10:58:12 <JarnoO> Pyramid report
10:58:17 <Eric> Pump!
10:58:20 <JarnoO> nice Pump
10:58:21 <Ryan(-1)> Loyalty status with Delta is great
10:58:28 <Ryan(-1)> I go home Wednesday now.
10:58:30 <Eric> yep, KC reports pyramid often when in basin :-D
10:58:42 <ynpvisitor86> I see steam, people, boardwalks ...
10:58:52 <Ryan(-1)> In a very good spot to see SB now. :)
10:58:57 <Eric> New people are enamored with the major flag :-P
10:59:37 <Eric> You you see it from Penn?
10:59:52 <Radon, Raid Off> The original "Karate Kid" was on TV this morning
10:59:58 <Eric> Nice and good morning Jimbo
11:00:09 <Radon, Raid Off> Hello Eric
11:00:10 <Eric> Nice, my daughter wants to watch that again :-)
11:00:17 <JarnoO> morning Jimbo. Radiant gas today?
11:00:21 <Radon, Raid Off> It's a classic.
11:00:26 <JarnoO> Aurum
11:00:27 <JarnoO> .
11:00:27 <JarnoO> .
11:00:28 <Ryan(-1)> aurum
11:00:28 <JarnoO> .
11:00:28 <Eric> Auurm
11:00:29 <Eric> .
11:00:29 <Radon, Raid Off> And noble!
11:00:30 <Eric> .
11:00:37 <Ryan(-1)> Aurum
11:00:44 <Ryan(-1)> Aurrrrrum
11:00:49 <Ryan(-1)> A Rum
11:00:55 <Eric> wooohoo
11:00:58 <Eric> I hope Kevin is there
11:01:36 <Eric> That person has been waiting there for multiple hours to see Aurum and people step in front of him...that drives me nuts!
11:01:53 <Eric> Oh well.
11:02:57 <Eric> Nice...that worked perfect for the recording!
11:02:59 <LindaGp> Nice cam came back for aurum
11:03:18 <Kat1> :)
11:03:25 <LindaGp> Kevin is still in his way
11:03:33 <ynpvisitor26> nice cam came back
11:03:34 <Eric> ohh, bummer
11:03:37 <Eric> Next Aurum!
11:03:57 <LindaGp> *on
11:04:55 <JarnoO> now the real countdown begins, Ryan :)
11:05:02 <Eric> Interesting, conflicting times on the Rocket start
11:05:02 <JarnoO> I spot a Craig
11:05:07 <Kat1> Craig at Myriad?
11:05:15 <Ryan(-0.9)> I am checked into my flights, car rental is good, and I get to start the trip without barreling to norris.
11:05:23 <Eric> Looks like it
11:05:30 <Eric> Nice Ryan!
11:05:38 <JarnoO> a Craigmobile :)
11:05:43 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yeah, spending tomorrow night in Bozeman with Sputs
11:05:44 <Eric> I hope you have a geyser filled weekend :-D
11:05:58 <SantaFe108> yay
11:06:02 <Kat1> Have fun!
11:06:09 <Ryan(-0.9)> were out and about Friday and Saturday. Monument Basin, Purple Mountain, Chain of Lakes, and a few others.
11:06:22 <Eric> Ahh, very cool
11:06:24 <Ryan(-0.9)> May slip into the UGB Friday evening once crowds get down.
11:06:34 <Ryan(-0.9)> Sunday to Tuesday is Norris though
11:06:45 <Eric> Those destinations sound awesome
11:06:48 <Ryan(-0.9)> If I see one more SB, I will be happy.
11:06:57 <JarnoO> we'll keep an eye out for Giantess, Ryan
11:07:06 <Eric> Jake joining you guys?
11:07:09 <JarnoO> enjoy your stay
11:07:31 <Ryan(-0.9)> Thanks, I will be out of service for much of it, but will try to get into service each night until Norris.
11:08:08 <Ryan(-0.9)> I think at Norris, Vixen and I will be best friends.
11:08:13 <Ryan(-0.9)> Vixen, and Orby haha
11:08:33 <ynpvisitor26> Eric those conflicting Rocket times were mentioned just as the cam was going down. Watch check seems to be in order
11:10:12 <ynpvisitor26> It happens on grotto starts every once in a while. First I've noticed for Rocket though.
11:11:34 <ynpvisitor26> Guy is trying to note durations though
11:11:57 <JarnoO> that's at least a good sign
11:11:58 <ynpvisitor27> is Kevin in the park yet?
11:12:09 <Kat1> Not yet
11:13:28 <Kat1> I think he was leaving Idaho Falls around 10ish or so
11:13:56 <ynpvisitor27> :thumbsup:
11:14:59 <Eric> test
11:15:13 <ynpvisitor27> yes Eric?
11:16:28 <Eric> :-D I am playing with a new draggable/resizeable layout here :-D
11:16:41 <JarnoO> nice
11:16:43 <Eric> So if you don't like my layout or sizing of widgets, you can make your own!
11:17:01 <Eric> Add/Remove components on the right as you wish
11:17:19 <JarnoO> I'm pretty content with how I laid out my widgets
11:17:24 <ynpvisitor27> could we make components bigger or smaller?
11:17:31 <Eric> Yes, me too, as I designed it for me :-P
11:17:42 <JarnoO> just closed a few which I don't often use
11:17:44 <Eric> Yep, resize at will, width and height
11:17:56 <Eric> That is my goal
11:18:16 <JarnoO> and dragged a few to a place I find more suitable. Enough customization for me :)
11:18:28 <Eric> Also columns will be independent, so it doesn't matter if you have all kinds of weird heights.
11:19:20 <Ryan(-0.9)> Just finished getting baseline measurements.
11:19:39 <Ryan(-0.9)> Have them for SB, Great Fountain, OF, BH, Grand, and Castle, from several locations - just in case ;)
11:19:41 <Eric> Nice, you going to so some height measuring this weekend Ryan?
11:19:53 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yup. Maybe even mugfwump!
11:20:01 <ynpvisitor27> I thought you were going too the UGB?
11:20:07 <Forestbewithyou> Hello
11:20:09 <Eric> Cool
11:20:19 <Eric> Hello again Forest
11:20:21 <Ryan(-0.9)> Slipping in on Friday night for a few hours after crowds disperse.
11:20:27 <Ryan(-0.9)> Great Fountain is more likely
11:20:43 <ynpvisitor27> I told you that you would go there for a least an hour or two :)
11:20:46 <Eric> Measure to the top water droplet please :-P
11:20:50 <ynpvisitor27> KC here :)
11:21:00 <SantaFe108> hello forsst
11:21:06 <Forestbewithyou> Hi SF
11:21:08 <Eric> Hey KC!
11:21:15 <SantaFe108> hello kc
11:21:23 <Eric> You at pyramid?
11:21:25 <ynpvisitor27> wow, you didnt call me Coop, thats first :P
11:21:28 <Ryan(-0.9)> would you believe that mugwump is 85ft from the road?
11:21:31 <ynpvisitor27> KC as in Korben Cooper Eric
11:21:37 <Eric> ohh, the other KC :-(
11:21:42 <SantaFe108> what the heck
11:21:45 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yeah, hard to stay away. Knowing SB's "plan" helps a LOT
11:21:46 <ynpvisitor27> oi! I am not that bad ;)
11:21:46 <Forestbewithyou> I was trying to determine if it was Korben or no
11:21:49 <Eric> bummer
11:21:54 <SantaFe108> hello korben
11:21:55 <Eric> hahaha
11:21:59 <Eric> Hi Coop
11:22:09 <ynpvisitor27> Eric
11:22:14 <ynpvisitor27> Eric
11:22:17 <ynpvisitor27> Eric :P
11:23:41 <Eric> Say hi to Craig for us Ryan
11:23:54 <Ryan(-0.9)> If he talks to me....
11:23:54 <Forestbewithyou> ^^^
11:24:03 <Forestbewithyou> LOL
11:24:04 <Ryan(-0.9)> My return flight has a new airport for me - LaGuardia!
11:24:12 <Forestbewithyou> Oh Have fun
11:25:00 <Ryan(-0.9)> outbound flight has 4.5hrs in MSP, made mildly better by being in Delta Sky Club.
11:25:39 <Ryan(-0.9)> I both love, but hate, flying. So I try to make it as comfy as I can. I find Delta to be very rewarding to its loyalty customers. Sky Club, and first class, is frequently very doable.
11:29:17 <Ryan(-0.9)> In January I have an expedition to Hawaii coming up, and managed to snag first class round trip for it. Im not shocked - but its cheaper to fly first class and get two free checked bags than it is to go Main and pay for two (overweighjt) bags.
11:31:25 <JarnoO> lava tubing expedition?
11:31:50 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yup
11:31:57 <Michael> Kilauea made some new ones just for the occasion.
11:32:30 <JarnoO> not sure you want to be in those yet
11:32:45 <Ryan(-0.9)> Those would still be around 130F
11:33:10 <Ryan(-0.9)> Tad warm, but I know people who have surveyed new lava tubes that were over 100F in them still
11:33:23 <Eric> wow...hot caving!
11:33:37 <Ryan(-0.9)> and HUMID
11:33:45 <Eric> really...interesting
11:33:58 <Eric> I would assume the humidity would be driven out...but I guess no place to go
11:34:28 <Eric> You going with a group Ryan?
11:34:34 <Michael> Sounds like another planet almost.
11:34:42 <Ryan(-0.9)> Nope.
11:34:46 <Ryan(-0.9)> Well, yes, nothing formal.
11:34:57 <Eric> Local hawaiian cavers?
11:35:02 <Ryan(-0.9)> Surveying some stuff, doing some snorkling.
11:35:03 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yes
11:35:16 <Ryan(-0.9)> And at least one 180ft open air pit that is an old vent.
11:35:18 <Eric> Nice...water entrance caves are cool in hawaii
11:35:37 <Michael> Awesome!
11:35:43 <Eric> Took a boat into one in Maui....waves can smash you against the ceiling if you are not careful.
11:35:52 <Eric> Wow...that is deep
11:35:58 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yeah, there are a couple we will go to at low tide.
11:36:02 <Eric> didn't know lava tubes had pits
11:36:11 <Ryan(-0.9)> Also doing the classic waterfall tour, and probably going up Mauna Kea.
11:36:25 <Ryan(-0.9)> The deepest pit in the US is in HAwaii.
11:36:36 <Eric> holy cow...no idea!
11:36:40 <Ryan(-0.9)> The Na One vent is around 800ft deep. Its an extinct volcanic vent.
11:37:06 <Eric> That is nuts! water for most of it?
11:37:11 <Ryan(-0.9)> The deepest "classic karst" pit is in Alaska. El Capitan Pit is 590 feet or something.
11:37:17 <Ryan(-0.9)> Nope, Na One is dry.
11:37:25 <Eric> holy crap
11:39:02 <Ryan(-0.9)> Deepest in the 48 is Fantastic Pit in Georgia - 586ft. I'
11:39:09 <Ryan(-0.9)> ve looked down it.
11:39:36 <Ryan(-0.9)> Pretty impressive, the name "Fantastic" is well earned. I did do its sister pit in the same Cave - Incredible - which was 440ft.
11:40:09 <Eric> That is a lot of rope!
11:40:15 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://live.staticflickr.com/3786/10147939605_19decf7652_b.jpg Incredible Pit.
11:40:32 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://uploads.knightlab.com/storymapjs/35a3b48eccb5cf8a3f3e84f686b34382/reuter/_images/ellisons-cave2_thumb[5].jpg Fantastic.
11:41:11 <Ryan(-0.9)> Not my photos. I did not get one looking up Incredible, and my photo looking down it doesn't give 440ft all that much justice. I have no photos at all of Fantastic. Fantastic is the only thing I have been too scared to do.
11:41:49 <Eric> Yes, those are incredible caves
11:42:14 <Ryan(-0.9)> Incredible is rigged with a 550ft rope I think. Fantastic uses a 700.
11:42:18 <Eric> Nice use of spot flashlight to light that vertical tube
11:42:35 <Ryan(-0.9)> Friends of mine have done Sontano de los Golondrinas in Mexico - 1300ft!
11:42:40 <Ryan(-0.9)> That is a waterfall, Eric :)
11:42:59 <Eric> oh! :-/:-/:-/
11:43:11 <Eric> Wow...even more impressive
11:43:14 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yeah. Makes the ride down.... interesting.
11:43:45 <Eric> I always loved the idea of caving...but 6'5 and wide shoulders makes for a poor caver
11:43:51 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://cdnpt01.viewbug.com/media/mediafiles/2018/11/06/81960103_widepreview400.jpg Dude literally stole my photograph but thats looking down Incredible from the top
11:43:59 <Michael> What's the goelogic process behind those pits?
11:44:11 <Eric> nice
11:44:24 <Ryan(-0.9)> In Ellison's Cave is a big fault line.
11:44:37 <Ryan(-0.9)> Water hits the vertical weakness and barrels down.
11:45:19 <Ryan(-0.9)> Incredible's waterfall spins and makes a vortex which is why is so circular. In most other cases its a combination of hard and soft rocks. Water perches on the hard rocks, hits the soft limestone and boom - drops stright through it.
11:46:07 <Ryan(-0.9)> In many caves you have a multi-drop series where water perches and then cuts through several alternating layers of hard and soft limestones. You get anywehre from2 to 15 pits in one cave.
11:46:57 <ynpvisitor32> First Hawaii has to allow you to visit
11:47:16 <Ryan(-0.9)> Hawaii allows it as of Sept 1
11:47:26 <ynpvisitor32> For now
11:47:30 <Ryan(-0.9)> provided you have proof oif a negative COVID test within the last 72 hours.
11:47:33 <Michael> One the water is that far down, does it find a surface exit or just adsorb into a porous layer?
11:47:34 <Siegmund> being forced to stay more than 14 days doesnt sound like THAT big of a hardship
11:48:00 <Ryan(-0.9)> Michael, it usually hits a resistant base layer and then emerges as a spring.
11:51:07 <Eric> Ryan, do you know Dave Bunell?
11:51:16 <Ryan(-0.9)> I do.
11:52:25 <Eric> ahh, cool...was just looking at one of his hawaii pit photos :-D and it led me to his other cave photography :-D
11:52:39 <Eric> speleodave :-D
11:52:55 <Ryan(-0.9)> He has a long and varied portfolio. He began caving in WV, in many of the same caves I learned in.
11:53:03 <Eric> nice
11:53:43 <Eric> He has a lot of the cave pics on wikipedia
11:54:05 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yes, you name it he has likely been there
11:54:51 <Ryan(-0.9)> I am bringing strobes in the event SB goes at night.
11:54:56 <Ryan(-0.9)> May as well light is up.
11:55:00 <Eric> very cool
11:55:24 <Eric> or maybe grab a giantess night time eruption pic while you are at it :-D
11:55:24 <Ryan(-0.9)> As warm as it would keep me, flying with a carbide lamp seems like a generally bad idea
11:55:37 <Ryan(-0.9)> I've done a few night flash photos...
11:56:22 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/20297860700/in/album-72157679255067020/ White Dome
11:56:41 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/20477065292/in/album-72157657036764626/ Castle
11:57:02 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/32333492374/in/album-72157657036764626/ Castle and Gizmo
11:57:25 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/33136929696/in/album-72157657036764626/ Beehive
11:58:15 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/33021969862/in/album-72157657036764626/ Sawmill
11:58:44 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/49258420978/in/album-72157657036764626/ and castle
11:58:56 <Ryan(-0.9)> Combos of bright LEDs, strobes, and ye-olde-flashbulbs
11:59:26 <Ryan(-0.9)> I'd love a chance at night photos of Giantess.
11:59:55 <Eric> all your links are broken
12:00:02 <Eric> Not sure what is up with those urls
12:00:10 <Ryan(-0.9)> WAT
12:00:11 <Ryan(-0.9)> :(
12:00:13 <Siegmund> 503 error more likely the site's fault than ryan's
12:00:21 <Eric> I assume you have spaces in your urls?
12:00:26 <Ryan(-0.9)> Efff, they are all in my Upper Geyser Basin album. Except White Dome lol
12:00:48 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/49258420978/in/album-72157657036764626/
12:01:04 <Eric> might be the chat screwing them up with the geyser linking
12:01:39 <Ryan(-0.9)> they work on my end
12:02:01 <Eric> weird...now they are working
12:02:15 <Eric> Like siegmund said, was giving 503 error
12:03:25 <Siegmund> flashes for night giantess pix brings back memories :) had to do that in summer of 1991 - my dad had my mom and I different places on the boardwalk with slave flashes while he took pics
12:03:32 <Eric> I wish we had you out at fountain last summer...we had that thing lit up so well, between HK, Tara, Graham and myself
12:03:51 <Eric> Nice Siegmun!
12:03:54 <Eric> Siegmund
12:04:07 <Ryan(-0.9)> Sounds about right.
12:04:23 <Ryan(-0.9)> Positioning people with flashbulbs for an ephemeral geyser eruption is funny
12:05:15 <Siegmund> I have print of it that I took to Alaska with me:) very red-shifted on slide film, with white detail of steam phase jetting in center
12:05:31 <SantaFe108> someone posted a picture of themselves off the boardwalk at the rim of a hotspring on instagram, and im trying to find out where it was taken
12:06:20 <Kat1> OF
12:06:24 <Siegmund> you have link to it santafe?
12:06:25 <Ryan(-0.9)> Send me a scan and I could un-red-shift it for you
12:06:30 <JarnoO> nope on OF
12:06:38 <SantaFe108> Siegmund, yes one second
12:07:12 <SantaFe108 mobi> https://www.instagram.com/p/CEo3AAGnFWu/?igshid=1xt5p47pn0moo
12:07:12 <Kat1> Big play
12:07:17 <Ryan(-0.9)> Send me the slide and I could do even better for you
12:07:59 <Ryan(-0.9)> thats a roadside feature in Midway I think
12:08:23 <SantaFe108> o
12:09:04 <Ryan(-0.9)> if it is the one I am thinking of I would not even worry about it
12:09:15 <Ryan(-0.9)> Several dozen walk by that every day
12:09:16 <Siegmund> instagram refusing to open the stupid thing for me... tis the day for web weirdness
12:09:18 <SantaFe108> Ryan(-0.9), i'll look for it
12:09:49 <Eric> probably here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+Faithful/@44.5149868,-110.8323989,89m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5351ed1b81592e5f:0x83b7c275a6822a1!8m2!3d44.4604788!4d-110.8281377
12:10:28 <Eric> awesome how deep you can see into those craters from google satellite :-D
12:10:37 <Ryan(-0.9)> I think that is it, Eric
12:11:04 <SantaFe108> Eric, i think it might be the southern pool
12:11:06 <Ryan(-0.9)> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+Faithful/@44.5172984,-110.8070614,171m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x5351ed1b81592e5f:0x83b7c275a6822a1!8m2!3d44.4604788!4d-110.8281377 Check those out
12:11:12 <Ryan(-0.9)> Best features in Yellowstone
12:11:23 <Siegmund> had to turn off my vpn, I see it now
12:11:31 <SantaFe108> Ryan(-0.9), wow spectacular orange
12:11:59 <Ryan(-0.9)> its redder in person
12:12:01 <Eric> Wish you could still legally get up there :-(
12:12:13 <Eric> tomato
12:12:20 <Siegmund> pic is Sprite Spring, Calthos crater in background
12:12:22 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yup, glad I got there when I could
12:12:53 <Siegmund> 20ish feet from edge of old road, but dont see a barricade up
12:14:55 <SantaFe108> Siegmund, definitely sprite pool if you view from streetview
12:15:25 <SantaFe108> looks like there's a trail that curves around the rim of the pool
12:15:28 <Ryan(-0.9)> fluffy in a classic preplay delay]
12:15:40 <Eric> You sure it's not a minor?
12:15:43 <Eric> :-P
12:15:52 <Eric> be careful using those words!
12:15:56 <Eric> OF
12:16:03 <Ryan(-0.9)> Also, I have decided that to combat the trumpers I am wearing my rainbow hat
12:16:04 <SantaFe108> thanks Siegmund, Ryan(-0.9), Eric
12:16:15 <Ryan(-0.9)> Definitely preplay delay
12:16:19 <Eric> Go full rainbow on them Ryan!
12:16:21 <Ryan(-0.9)> That was a VERY tall OF
12:16:22 <Kat1> Ryan(-0.9), Go Ryan!
12:16:44 <Eric> If glitter bombs in nature didn't such I would say take some of those too :-D
12:16:45 <SantaFe108> Ryan(-0.9), show em!
12:16:51 <Eric> suck...not such
12:17:01 <Ryan(-0.9)> I would wear my rainbow underwear but that may go too far
12:17:12 <Eric> or not far enough!
12:17:16 <Ryan(-0.9)> I'll stick with the rainbow mask and hat
12:17:21 <Eric> Go full rainbow camo!
12:17:26 <Kat1> :lol:
12:17:29 <SantaFe108> Ryan(-0.9), scare them away by showing them grand prismatic
12:17:35 <Eric> Nobody will see you at an afternoon bee
12:18:10 <Ryan(-0.9)> Grand Prismatic is an example of the NPS shoving the LGBT agenda down our throats!
12:18:33 <Ryan(-0.9)> #BoycottGPS
12:18:41 <Siegmund> yes a very tall OF.. takes about 145 feet to be even with the big flat-topped area to the right of the geyser... this looks to have been 170 or 175
12:19:07 <Ryan(-0.9)> i look forward to reviewing that capture. That was very tall
12:19:40 <Ryan(-0.9)> Seigmund, do you have data for that? ;)
12:20:12 <Eric> Dang...missed it by seconds
12:20:18 <Siegmund> it requires a guess at the exact height of the camera, but yes
12:20:19 <Ryan(-0.9)> I blame you for me carrying around a Sunnto in the park now! Its youre fault I am a data fanatic now.
12:20:42 <Ryan(-0.9)> I got 145 as well the same way
12:20:43 <Siegmund> I had been too lazy to look at the new webcam site until giantess this week
12:20:54 <Ryan(-0.9)> 77ft or so for the height of the cam?
12:21:22 <Siegmund> right now it seems the biggest source of error is different sources giving different heights for how tall the Inn is
12:21:41 <Eric> Should be easy to get height of cam...get a baseline Ryan :-D
12:22:07 <Eric> Height from where Siegmund? :-P
12:22:08 <Ryan(-0.9)> Actually, yes, my plan was to get a height of the camera.
12:22:09 <Siegmund> yes a person sighting up to the cam from the paved walk could settle it
12:22:24 <Ryan(-0.9)> 12:16:03 was the big spike
12:22:33 <Eric> or get up on the roof with a good gps
12:23:09 <Siegmund> the clinometer will do better than the gps, unless you have two of them and can occupy the site for a good long while... a real pain to get altitude from a gps
12:23:17 <Eric> You have a tripod for your sunnto Ryan?
12:23:19 <Ryan(-0.9)> So, using a ruler on the screen I actuall got 184.5ft for that one
12:23:48 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yeah I have a tripod.
12:24:05 <Eric> Well, I have GPS , galleo & glastnost on my watch, so it helps with that Siegmund
12:24:14 <Eric> It can use all 3 to pinpoint
12:24:17 <Ryan(-0.9)> Also, let me find a USGS datum on their topos, and I can get an elevation for the camera, that will help a lot.
12:24:43 <Ryan(-0.9)> Seigmund I got 7.0cm to the spike, and 5.5 to the tree line - 7/5.5*145 id 185ft
12:24:55 <ynpvisitor22> ive seen taller OF's than that
12:25:02 <Eric> or glonass :-P
12:25:20 <ynpvisitor22> Ryan(-0.9), what about the fact that the treeline is farther back than OF? that messes with your scales
12:25:28 <Siegmund> I can believe over 180 - the instant replay has the 16:03 spike a tad higher than the one just after that I had my ruler up for on the replay
12:25:43 <Ryan(-0.9)> 22, factored in
12:25:45 <Eric> I didn't spell anything right there :-P
12:26:15 <Eric> how do rulers work with the magnification?
12:26:29 <Eric> seems the zoom level would ruin any measurement
12:26:34 <JarnoO> 184.5 feet seems on the tall side of things
12:26:53 <ynpvisitor22> This is funny, usr3712 of GT's name tis "Ann Nonymous" lol, thats a good one :p
12:26:54 <Ryan(-0.9)> I can do a write up on how to find the height of eruptions from the cam once I have a solid elevation and altitude for the cam.
12:26:55 <ynpvisitor22> Agreed JO
12:27:13 <Ryan(-0.9)> Eric, they are far enough away to assume a stright line estimation.
12:27:21 <Eric> Really?
12:27:38 <Eric> look forward to reading your article
12:27:40 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yeah, knowing that the tree line is 145ft "above" OF'
12:27:52 <Ryan(-0.9)> you can just take a fractional ratio to get the height.
12:27:55 <Siegmund> 22, you have to know how far away and how tall each of the various targets are: the big flat spot to the right of the gesyser is "peak 8616" north of Teal Lake, about 5.5km from the camera, and you find that it must be something around +6.4% to hit that
12:28:15 <Ryan(-0.9)> Seigmund, exactly.
12:28:31 <Ryan(-0.9)> Distance (2D level distance) from camera to vent is trivial.
12:28:57 <Eric> Yes, you can do that with maps
12:29:20 <Ryan(-0.9)> The bigger issue is elevations of geysers relative to the camera, which I can do. I'll shoot baselines for the geysers as best I can for the webcam. At least Beehive, Castle, Grand, and Giantess.
12:29:35 <Ryan(-0.9)> I'll have to hop on here, so you guys can see where I am to get an idea.
12:29:40 <Eric> any usgs markers in the basin?
12:29:50 <Eric> They should have hard elevations
12:30:26 <Siegmund> there are several, and the contours on I-1371 were well surveyed. The snag is you cant mix and match old usgs heights and google earth heights, not the same datum.. have to measure both one place or both the other
12:30:27 <Eric> Cool...look forward to this writeup!
12:30:54 <Eric> Makes sense
12:31:03 <Eric> I wouldn't use google earth for any elevations
12:31:26 <Siegmund> GE mostly has the merit of being accessible without a trip to the library or the basin
12:31:35 <Ryan(-0.9)> http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=44.46020,-110.82741&z=17&t=T&marker0=44.46047%2C-110.82820%2Cunnamed
12:32:06 <Ryan(-0.9)> Not sure what datum that is, but thats the one I use
12:32:22 <Ryan(-0.9)> OF's vent is 7352
12:32:57 <Ryan(-0.9)> Using a Clino from the boardwalk to shoot to OF's vent and the camera I can get an elevation for the webcam
12:33:09 <Eric> Maybe USGS topo?
12:33:28 <Ryan(-0.9)> I cant find one resolved enough
12:33:41 <JarnoO> it's an ESRI map
12:33:59 <ynpvisitor72> We need one of those fishing rulers overlaid on the image. You know the ones that go 1 inch 4 inches 8 inches so the fish lokks longer. That way all the geysers will be taller.
12:34:12 <JarnoO> not sure what sources ESRI uses
12:35:24 <Ryan(-0.9)> pan left and right? which corner are we on?
12:35:49 <Ryan(-0.9)> its the "northwest corner" right?
12:35:51 <Siegmund> surprisingly low elevations on that ESRI map
12:36:04 <JarnoO> yes,that corner
12:36:25 <ynpvisitor72> I thought it was south east, I gues si am turned around
12:36:28 <Eric> I see it as 7349 at the cone in another location...but whatever, seems reasonable
12:36:28 <Ryan(-0.9)> oool deal
12:36:40 <Ryan(-0.9)> I have a list of shots to make
12:37:27 <Ryan(-0.9)> BH, Giantess, Grand, and Castle
12:37:31 <Ryan(-0.9)> any others you want?
12:37:45 <Ryan(-0.9)> Something over 50ft in height - no real reason to shoot to Aurum
12:37:59 <Siegmund> hope the tripod helps you more than it helped me 2 years ago. having an instrument capable of 0.1% didnt do me much good, when I didnt have a long very stiff rod to sight along
12:38:40 <Ryan(-0.9)> I will do it from several places, Seigmund - and average to get a good, solid, Elevation for the cam
12:39:09 <Siegmund> think the most important sighting is from places of known elevation in the parking lot and on the paved trail to the camera, myself
12:39:13 <Ryan(-0.9)> Can we pan over to OF? I need to see where else we can see from
12:39:38 <Ryan(-0.9)> what known elevations do you know of Seigmund?
12:39:46 <Ryan(-0.9)> Only one I can work with is OF
12:40:02 <Eric> To bad USGS hasn't done their LIDAR mapping of YNP yet :-(
12:40:32 <Siegmund> I would take I-1371 with me and stand on places where a contour line crossed a trail, I think
12:41:00 <Ryan(-0.9)> Do you have a cop[y of I-1371?
12:41:55 <Siegmund> I have a pdf I can email... should be a free download somewhere on the USGS site but cant find where at the moment
12:42:12 <Eric> https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/Prodesc/proddesc_9176.htm
12:42:12 <Siegmund> GOSA was selling scans of it (and paper copies of it) at one time
12:42:22 <Eric> You can download a hires copy there
12:42:23 <Eric> in pdf
12:42:38 <Ryan(-0.9)> ok, I am going to shoot from the corner of the BW between us and OF, the edge of the trees by the lodge, and by blue Star
12:42:44 <Siegmund> the clever person who made the GOSA scan scanned it at a resolution of exactly 1 pixel per foot to save themselves a conversion (and inflict an extra one on those of us in metric)
12:42:47 <Eric> 16MB PDF - https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/ngm-bin/pdp/download.pl?q=17239_9176_3
12:44:09 <Kat1> Ryan(-0.9), did you get what you needed here?
12:44:23 <Ryan(-0.9)> Yes, thanks!
12:44:26 <Siegmund> 16559k is same file size as the one I have saved so I assume is identical scan to mine
12:44:29 <Ryan(-0.9)> That mjap is amazing
12:44:49 <Ryan(-0.9)> I will shoot from several spots, and use this map as the elevation reference for everything.
12:45:00 <Siegmund> they kept a paper copy of it, behind the counter, at the visitor center in the 80s and 90s. i wonder if they still do
12:45:06 <ynpvisitor72> I thought the cam was on the corner by the stairs, it is on the other corner?
12:45:11 <Eric> Apparently the original rests in West Virginia Ryan :-D
12:45:26 <Eric> USGS Library in Reston
12:46:16 <Siegmund> when the first webcam came out in 2006 i spread mine out on the kitchen table with a yardstick, to learn how to tell grand and oblong and grotto and so on apart... happy memories
12:46:53 <Eric> The compressed TIFF is probably even better!
12:47:07 <Ryan(-0.9)> Are there any geysers you'd want besides Grand, Castle, Lion, Giantess, Beehive, and Old Faithful?
12:47:13 <Eric> haha...that is awesome Siegmund
12:47:14 <Ryan(-0.9)> Mugwump?
12:47:45 <Eric> Mugwump would be interesting
12:47:47 <ynpvisitor72> Daisy would be nice, we can see water some times
12:47:59 <Siegmund> you can try for line of sight to daisy or splendid but wont be easy
12:48:13 <Siegmund> giant has to be done on paper because of the hill in the way
12:48:33 <Eric> Nope, you can actually see giant platform from here
12:48:54 <Eric> The cone is hidden by trees slightly though :-(
12:48:56 <Ryan(-0.9)> In theory, once we get an elevation for the webcam, the elevations for everything else is on that map
12:49:09 <Eric> Yes, that is a really nice map
12:49:14 <Siegmund> you can from the cam, eric - but ryan can't standing on the ground
12:49:25 <Siegmund> unless he has a very good friend who wants to take him up to the roof
12:50:21 <ynpvisitor72> What is needed it distance from the cam to the feature.
12:50:29 <Ryan(-0.9)> Shots from the basin are only to corroborate, or narrow down, elevations from the map
12:51:09 <Ryan(-0.9)> I will likely average what I measure in basin to what is shown on the map
12:51:13 <Siegmund> map and GE have good distances. as we mentioned at the beginning, the only current snag is how high up the camera is (and that is mostly a snag for things close to the cam)
12:51:58 <Eric> That map looks like it has OF around 7375
12:51:59 <Ryan(-0.9)> What will be produced is a set of elevations relative to a local datum, probably the webcam.
12:52:20 <Ryan(-0.9)> With the webcam at 0ft elevation, and most every geyser vent at negative something
12:53:06 <Eric> That is useful, then you can translate to any datum setup
12:53:32 <Ryan(-0.9)> The the horizon behind each will be determined as an angle relative to the cam, and the horizon behind the geyser used as a marker for a set height of that feature
12:53:58 <Ryan(-0.9)> I will get an angle for Daisy as best I can, so we know how far its angled away from us
12:56:22 <LindaG> I'm here Kat
12:56:41 <Kat1> Hi!
12:58:16 <Eric> Maybe you can get up on the Inn roof and get some horizon measurements :-D
12:59:29 <Kat1> Are you ready Linda?
12:59:55 <LindaG> Yup
13:00:23 <Kat1> All yours - see you again tomorrow! LOL
13:00:26 <LindaG> Got it
13:00:42 <LindaG> Kat1, 😊 have good night
13:01:05 <Kat1> You too! cya later all
13:02:20 <Ryan(-0.9)> I will take my disto
13:02:53 <Ryan(-0.9)> I can get there at night and shoot it to the inn. That will give me a slanted distance and an inclination - 0.00ft and 0.0 degree resolution
13:02:58 <Ryan(-0.9)> Damn accurate, too
13:03:48 <Ryan(-0.9)> Never thought about that, its great for stationary objects in the dark. You may see a bright laser at night haha
13:04:19 <Siegmund> warn us ahead of time so we can tell everybody it is just a UFO taking off from the hangar behind grand prismatic
13:04:31 <Ryan(-0.9)> perfect
13:04:52 <Ryan(-0.9)> Its a Disto X2 unit, cavers rip them apart and put a compass and clino into it.
13:05:48 <ynpvisitor72> Well, seems to me you will need distance from the cam to each horizon point, as well as elevation for said point.
13:05:50 <Eric> If you have ArcGIS this would be useful: https://pubs.usgs.gov/ds/0911/
13:06:02 <Ryan(-0.9)> the horizon points are easy
13:06:02 <Eric> That same map I think, but all the Arc components
13:06:39 <Ryan(-0.9)> that can be done with a topo map, and the errors are minimal given the distances
13:06:50 <ynpvisitor72> Don't forget to factor in the refraction from the dome.
13:07:23 <Ryan(-0.9)> For a second I thought you meant the sky dome
13:08:13 <Ryan(-0.9)> Eric can even put the height stuff on the dashboard lol
13:08:55 <ynpvisitor72> All this is making my head hurt.
13:09:39 <Ryan(-0.9)> Is dependent on how much time I have in UGB
13:09:53 <Ryan(-0.9)> The cam elevation is gonna happen, everything else is a question mark right noe
13:11:42 <Eric> Cam elevation would be useful in itself if we know it in relation to some fixed point :-D
13:11:58 <Ryan(-0.9)> That map is probably damn good
13:12:22 <Ryan(-0.9)> You could fix elevations for features from it with decent accuracy I think
13:12:43 <Ryan(-0.9)> Why is that tiny wolf following those people?
13:13:04 <JarnoO> Event Cycle 0955
13:13:11 <JarnoO> 1h01m
13:13:20 <Siegmund> they wait until the people are busy staring at OF to pounce from behind
13:13:28 <Ryan(-0.9)> oh wait, thats a dog
13:15:16 <Siegmund> gotta ask.. is the -.8 rounded or truncated? makes a difference of 72 minutes in when we expect to see you
13:15:32 <Ryan(-0.8)> truncated
13:15:51 <Ryan(-0.8)> truncated, to when my flight takes off from PIT
13:16:15 <Ryan(-0.8)> because thats officially when vacation begins - wheels up, stress down, baby!
13:24:48 <ynpvisitor31> Riverside
13:24:55 <ynpvisitor31> saw a puff
13:25:54 <ynpvisitor31> another
13:44:39 <Forestbewithyou> hi Linda
13:44:50 <LindaG> Forestbewithyou, hi
13:45:01 <LindaG> didn't realize I had lost my name
13:46:53 <sparekitty> hey ryan, what dates are in in the park?
13:47:07 <Ryan(-0.8)> Friday morning to Tuesday night
13:48:56 <ynpvisitor49> Mr. Aurum is at Lion right now
13:49:01 <sparekitty> i hope you have a great visit. without being too weird, it would be great to meet you IRL but this weekend is my daughter's baby shower.
13:49:02 <ynpvisitor49> Headed to Grand next
13:49:18 <LindaG> OF
13:49:28 <Ryan(-0.8)> Not weird at all
13:49:35 <Ryan(-0.8)> Would love to see you, too, maybe next year!
13:50:06 <sparekitty> the last time i was in the park i saw Craig, but didn't realize who it was! and i couldn't check FB because i have ATT which doesn't work in UGB.
13:50:10 <sparekitty> next year.
13:56:18 <ynpvisitor55> Did Craig C get SB?
13:57:37 <Forestbewithyou> Not sure however I don't see his name on the lists but maybe he is one of the many more
13:57:41 <LindaG> OT IE
13:58:05 <ynpvisitor55> Linda do you know if Craig got SB?
13:58:18 <Ryan(-0.8)> he did not
13:58:40 <ynpvisitor55> What? He left?
13:58:43 <LindaG> No I dont
13:58:49 <ynpvisitor55> Bummer
13:58:51 <Ryan(-0.8)> Yes, many of them did at sunset
13:59:32 <ynpvisitor55> When post said many more I thought it meant the regular suspects
14:01:17 <ynpvisitor55> Well he called his first F&M event cycle...not sure that takes away the sting of 21 restarts
14:01:51 <Forestbewithyou> Yea
14:02:45 <Ryan(-0.8)> Hasnt he seen like... a dozen SBs?
14:03:15 <LindaG> 3 or 4 I think
14:03:32 <Ryan(-0.8)> He's seen more than 3 or 4
14:03:40 <Ryan(-0.8)> I think its closer to 10
14:03:41 <ynpvisitor55> More than 5
14:04:08 <ynpvisitor55> I think he’d like to add a few more
14:04:13 <ynpvisitor49> A dozen is about right
14:04:45 <ynpvisitor49> Amazing that could see restarts on seismo
14:05:00 <Ryan(-0.8)> At that point I think missing one isnt as rough anymore
14:06:15 <LindaG> Well have to count his videos
14:06:31 <ynpvisitor49> .8? What kind of hourly countdown is that?
14:06:51 <Ryan(-0.8)> decimal days
14:08:36 <LindaG> Craig has seen 10
14:08:55 <ynpvisitor49> aye yye yie
14:09:24 <Ryan(-0.8)> Yeah, at that point (for me) it would be like missing F&M or something
14:13:25 <Eric> Still no Giantess?
14:13:55 <Ryan(-0.8)> too windy
14:14:36 <LindaG> Still no kevin
14:15:31 <Eric> Giantess is waiting for Kevin...got it!
14:16:13 <LindaG> Eric, 👍
14:18:17 <LindaG> Hmm I missed daisy
14:20:29 <LindaG> But Craig got it
14:21:11 <ynpvisitor49> Kevin was at Lion initial and now at Grand
14:21:24 <ynpvisitor49> So, that means Aurum is due
14:23:06 <LindaG> Kevin was there or Craig?
14:23:33 <ynpvisitor49> KEVIN
14:23:59 <ynpvisitor49> I Id'd him as Mr Aurum....who else could that possibly be?:D
14:25:07 <LindaG> I'm surprised do an think he would go to grand
14:30:30 <Ryan(-0.8)> Toodles!
14:31:17 <ynpvisitor49> He must think he has time to get back to Aurum. Might be having a good health day
14:33:22 <LindaG> I missed lion in I must have gone during Of
14:34:54 <LindaG> Aurum maybe an hour and a half or more
14:35:08 <KorbenC> Kevin in the park?
14:35:33 <LindaG> That's what They are saying
14:38:45 <LindaG> KorbenC, hi
14:38:58 <Forestbewithyou> Hi Korben
14:38:58 <ynpvisitor49> This is Dave....he texted me from Lion...does that help?:)
14:39:19 <ynpvisitor49> I know it is hard to trust a number:)
14:39:32 <LindaG> ynpvisitor49, it's fine. 😊 I believe you
14:39:58 <LindaG> ynpvisitor49, I never know who is who
14:40:14 <LindaG> So I just ignore them all lol
14:40:25 <ynpvisitor49> gotcha. I just hopped on because Kevin texted me and he is having trouble getting on chat
14:40:35 <ynpvisitor49> hahahaha
14:40:43 <LindaG> Oh sear
14:40:49 <LindaG> *dear
14:55:34 <LindaG> Hi michael
14:55:47 <Michael> Hi LindaG
14:56:10 <KorbenC> Michael, hi
14:56:26 <LindaG> Michael, big praying Mantua ate 2 of my cats today 🤤
14:56:41 <LindaG> *mantis
14:56:59 <ynpvisitor49> You must have small cats
14:57:16 <LindaG> Lol
14:57:45 <Michael> That's too bad. We lost one to a mantis. Could see it coming for days in advance.
14:57:54 <LindaG> my monarch caterpillars
14:58:18 <LindaG> LindaG, i.escorted it out of the yars
14:58:28 <LindaG> *yard
14:58:45 <LindaG> and that was not for me, fat fingers
14:59:19 <ynpvisitor49> ok. that makes more sense. PM's are having fun chomping on a huge crop of hoppers at our house
14:59:41 <Michael> Right now we have a ton of cats and not so many leaves. So it wouldn't be bad if a few became a cardinal's lunch.
15:00:43 <LindaG> Michael, yeah it was my fault one plant had like 1 leaf left so I moved them to a plant with leaves and a praying mantis. Yokea.
15:00:50 <LindaG> *yikes
15:01:29 <LindaG> I felt bad
15:01:57 <Michael> I haven't checked on the spicebush swallowtail cats in a while. I hope they're doing OK.
15:02:29 <Michael> by far my favorite pet caterpillar.
15:02:56 <LindaG> Im not sureni know what they look.like
15:04:35 <Betty> afternoon all
15:04:37 <Michael> first bird dropping, then tadpole, then kindergatner's hand-puppet snake.
15:04:44 <Michael> Hi Betty.
15:04:58 <Betty> evening JarnoO, hi Michael
15:05:08 <LindaG> Betty, hi
15:05:27 <Betty> hi LindaG
15:05:42 <ynpvisitor49> Howdy Betty. DFB here
15:05:56 <Michael> And they fold a leaf in half with silk and spend most of the day resting inside this "taco."
15:05:59 <Betty> hi D :-)
15:05:59 <LindaG> Michael, I'll have to Google them
15:06:03 <Michael> Hi Dave.
15:06:32 <ynpvisitor49> Hi Michael
15:06:43 <KorbenC> Hi Betty
15:06:45 <KorbenC> Hey Davea
15:06:46 <Michael> If you have scrubby little sassafras trees, look for them there.
15:06:52 <KorbenC> Dav*
15:06:55 <KorbenC> Dave*
15:07:06 <Betty> hi KorbenC
15:07:18 <ynpvisitor49> Nice keyboard Korben:)
15:07:32 <Eric> Hi Betty
15:07:39 <LindaG> Michael, I have seen the spotted silver do that with leaf, it's cool
15:07:49 <Betty> hello Eric
15:07:59 <Eric> Hi DfB
15:08:26 <LindaG> Lion
15:08:29 <Eric> He got that keyboard in a Billings Goodwill!
15:08:36 <LindaG> Lol
15:08:41 <Eric> That kevin out there?
15:08:55 <Eric> Did he get Lion ini?
15:09:25 <LindaG> Dave says yes
15:09:30 <Betty> craig posted Lion
15:09:41 <LindaG> nice
15:09:59 <LindaG> Lc ie
15:10:47 <Eric> ahhh, cool!
15:11:12 <ynpvisitor49> Kevin is supposed to be at Grand
15:11:32 <LindaG> OF time
15:13:02 <KorbenC> Jarno, Omar now TD
15:13:09 <Betty> wait...Kevin is NOT at OF??? How he dares...
15:13:17 <KorbenC> Betty, hahaha
15:13:39 <ynpvisitor49> Yes, he is at OF timing every single drop that comes out of it:)
15:15:00 <Michael> LindaG, I've got to look for silver-spotted caterpillars next year. We've got a false-indigo bushthey might like.
15:16:24 <LindaG> I had a bunch. And silly me I opened the leaf And the cat had to reseal it. I watched it was fun.
15:16:49 <JarnoO> Next Lion @ 1615±5m if series continues. >3m39s, no longer than ±3m47s
15:17:03 <JarnoO> Turban 1515 D1
15:18:01 <ynpvisitor49> Hi Eric
15:18:09 <LindaG> That's good maybe we will see grand
15:20:10 <KorbenC> maybe it will go 4 burst :P
15:23:41 <LindaG> Raven
15:23:57 <KorbenC> thatll be a free preplay delay!
15:24:10 <KorbenC> but hold the tomatoes :)
15:25:05 <LindaG> never noticed that dark.dirt
15:30:42 <LindaG> OF
15:31:15 <Betty> pretty eruption
15:31:33 <Betty> hope Kevin can see it
15:35:37 <JarnoO> Turban time
15:36:10 <KorbenC> Bulger!
15:36:32 <LindaG> Brands at 6hr 30min
15:36:41 <LindaG> *grand
15:37:10 <Betty> Brand and Gulger. Nice
15:37:20 <KorbenC> lol
15:37:52 <LindaG> 😊
15:44:13 <Betty> OT
15:45:24 <Betty> you can see LC?
15:45:45 <JarnoO> cam panned over to the Hill for a short time during 1542
15:45:53 <Betty> oh
15:46:52 <LindaG> Betty, you blinked 😄
15:47:13 <Betty> must have, lol
15:52:22 <LindaG> Grand is making Kevin wait
15:54:08 <JarnoO> Turban 1552 D3
15:55:40 <LindaG> almost 5 hours.for aurum
15:58:07 <Betty> Aurum is waiting for Kevin after he has seen Grand :-)
15:58:58 <LindaG> Aurum
15:58:59 <LindaG> .
15:58:59 <LindaG> .
15:59:00 <LindaG> .
15:59:00 <LindaG> .
15:59:21 <Betty> or not waiting for Kevin
15:59:37 <LindaG> Nope
16:00:28 <LindaG> ☹ but ☺
16:00:47 <Betty> hahaha
16:01:07 <JarnoO> oh
16:02:14 <LindaG> JarnoO, Well Kevin will have a copy
16:02:32 <LindaG> Now where is graham
16:04:31 <JarnoO> Rocket
16:04:52 <JarnoO> just when I was about to leave :)
16:05:36 <LindaG> Ok im stepping away and leaving here be right back
16:07:26 <GO STEAMBOAT> sorry I am late
16:07:58 <GO STEAMBOAT> is Grand taking its time?
16:08:26 <JarnoO> 1552 D3
16:08:30 <Forestbewithyou> Hi Graham
16:09:12 <GO STEAMBOAT> cool, so I am herejust in time .. if you ignore Aurum. was Kevin there?
16:09:30 <Betty> Daisy
16:09:34 <JarnoO> Lion is in window as well
16:09:45 <LindaG> No problem
16:09:55 <Betty> no, he´s at Grand
16:10:08 <LindaG> No supposedly Kevin is at grand
16:10:22 <GO STEAMBOAT> heshould knowbetter
16:10:58 <LindaGt> GO STEAMBOAT, yeah I was surprised
16:12:44 <GO STEAMBOAT> grand
16:12:50 <Betty> oh well, finally
16:12:50 <JarnoO> now it's Daisy preventing us from viewing Grand. Fun stuff
16:13:49 <LindaGt> Betty, really
16:18:16 <ynpvisitor90> Is ERic here?
16:18:45 <Betty> he was earlier
16:19:11 <ynpvisitor18> I guess Kevin is spinning the COVID wheel of fortune
16:19:38 <Betty> wb, Dave
16:19:56 <Dave from home> Eric, if you read chat logs, here is a link for early history on the OFL area:
16:20:09 <Dave from home> https://geyserbob.org/hot-oflodge.html
16:20:18 <GO STEAMBOAT> hi Dave. what happened to your Isles... you just wanted to see another game?
16:20:22 <Radon, Raid Off> Approaching the 8 minute boundary
16:20:25 <Dave from home> Of course, everyone else, is welcome to read as well:)
16:20:59 <Dave from home> Yeah..more hockey is better
16:21:32 <Radon, Raid Off> Except 4 OTs
16:22:05 <Radon, Raid Off> pausation?
16:22:49 <JarnoO> looks like 1 and done
16:23:16 <GO STEAMBOAT> yep
16:23:19 <Radon, Raid Off> walkaway has commenced
16:23:50 <JarnoO> oh. Though the video was still at some 23 minutes :/
16:25:31 <Betty> dwarf ie
16:26:23 <GO STEAMBOAT> white or red or something else?
16:26:36 <Betty> think red?
16:26:48 <KorbenC> not as tall as yesterday
16:27:02 <Betty> it is the first time I see it from this view
16:27:15 <JarnoO> D4/G1Q | 10m04s
16:27:31 <ynpvisitor25> Hi everyone, sorry for the intrusion... i have a question
16:27:45 <KorbenC> 25 = Craig?
16:27:45 <ynpvisitor25> So, is Old Tardy the only thing active right now in the Sawmill group?
16:27:53 <KorbenC> no
16:28:00 <JarnoO> Churn's active too, as is Spasmodic
16:28:09 <KorbenC> Churn Geyser, Spasmodic Geyser, Bulger Geyser, Bulgers Hole geyser. Slurp.
16:28:33 <GO STEAMBOAT> not sure where white and red are from here
16:28:33 <ynpvisitor25> thanks
16:28:38 <KorbenC> sadly Penta and Spasmodic along with Tardy (different than old tardy) are not active :(
16:28:39 <JarnoO> I believe Bulger and Bulger's Hole aren't part of Sawmill and friends
16:29:16 <LindaGt> ynpvisitor25, you are not intruding
16:29:36 <ynpvisitor25> :) thx
16:29:53 <KorbenC> Jarno, Id happen to agree, but I figured 25 was probably talking about said geographical area :)
16:30:34 <GO STEAMBOAT> i think Bulger and Bulger's Hole are likely tied to the Sawmill group more than Grand tho, not sure why they are officially in the Grand Group
16:31:24 <GO STEAMBOAT> upstairs leak is now fixed ..... he was told he needed a new water heater, was replaced tody, didnt fix the problem
16:31:31 <ynpvisitor25> So, then historical question- has there been a widespread dormancy ever recorded in the past with these major members of the Sawmill group like there is now?
16:31:52 <GO STEAMBOAT> plumber found a leak in his hot water line just after the water heater, in the wall
16:32:00 <Betty> good to hear it is fixed before you leave
16:32:19 <KorbenC> GO STEAMBOAT, nice, was it the condo above you?
16:32:27 <GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, i have someone coming to remove drywall tomorrow to dy it out
16:32:39 <GO STEAMBOAT> wil get it fixed up when i get back
16:32:49 <KorbenC> 25, I remember hearing about a dormancy a while ago, not as long as this I dodnt think
16:33:01 <GO STEAMBOAT> 2 floors above. middle unit is empty and has a realtor box on the door
16:33:07 <KorbenC> GO STEAMBOAT, :thumbsup:
16:33:13 <JarnoO> Graham, can you identify the Dwarfs based on this picture? https://goo.gl/maps/Skeh2UZebDqVHJia6
16:33:15 <GO STEAMBOAT> i assume they have damage too
16:33:21 <KorbenC> Time too make dinner, I seem to be hungry earlier :)
16:38:42 <ynpvisitor26> Has anyone ever drawn a map of the various Dwarfs?
16:39:25 <GO STEAMBOAT> I havent seen one
16:39:38 <GO STEAMBOAT> too many holes in thr ground
16:39:52 <ynpvisitor25> Thx again KorbenC
16:40:17 <GO STEAMBOAT> so SB on SUn, Mon, or Tue?
16:40:44 <DeletedTeakettl> I swear I've seen an attempted map of those guys; trying for the life of me to remember the context...
16:43:44 <KorbenC> Hi DT!
16:45:15 <ynpvisitor26> JSJ YT video refers to N Dwarf aka Clovis geyser
16:45:36 <DeletedTeakettl> greetings
16:45:41 <LindaGt> JSJ has one up on Flickr. Google dwarfs map Yellowstone it will come up
16:46:12 <Dave from home> If I go....Tuesday
16:46:26 <ynpvisitor26> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYS2r75FRzE
16:46:27 <Betty> LC
16:46:27 <Dave from home> Anyone want to pay me to stay home?
16:47:17 <Betty> no, you can go, Dave
16:47:40 <Betty> don´t forget to take Michelle and Becca
16:47:45 <LindaGt> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jsjgeology/20322908263 here is dwarf map
16:48:40 <Betty> nice Linda. but where is red dwarf?
16:48:47 <Betty> lol
16:49:04 <ynpvisitor26> Thanks Linda. Found and was just going to post link.:D
16:50:28 <LindaGt> Here a a better one with dep in it https://www.flickr.com/photos/jsjgeology/20951339781/in/photostream/
16:53:03 <DeletedTeakettl> A lot of the holes have multiple names, adding to the confusion. JSJ's North Dwarf is not what I know as being Red Dwarf/North Dwarf.
16:54:04 <KorbenC> I think the one weve been seeing going big is Orange
16:58:21 <GO STEAMBOAT> thats why i dont ty and identify them, just the one by the boardwalk
16:58:54 <GO STEAMBOAT> what does he call that one?
17:01:45 <GO STEAMBOAT> of
17:02:13 <JarnoO> just in time :)
17:06:54 <ynpvisitor26> That's a whole lot of holes to try and sort out
17:07:43 <GO STEAMBOAT> good job YNM was up or you wouldnt know SB erupted from YNR .. of course peeps help too :)
17:08:01 <ynpvisitor26> GS he has N and S Dwarf closest to the BW
17:08:05 <KorbenC> GS I wouldnt say that
17:08:28 <KorbenC> GS, the trace was not super clear, but deffinitly there on YNR, Spectrogram looked good too
17:08:41 <LindaGt> Oh they fixed Washburn view
17:09:02 <GO STEAMBOAT> ok, but the trace looks benign
17:09:44 <LindaGt> Well it warmed up for kevin
17:09:52 <ynpvisitor26> I agree about the standard trace that we are saw from the feed you can get without the SWARM app
17:10:19 <GO STEAMBOAT> when des Ryan arrive tomorrow?
17:10:40 <ynpvisitor26> He said into the Park Fri am
17:10:41 <GO STEAMBOAT> gguess he can spend a gew days at F&M ... or monitoring the Giantess recovery
17:10:48 <LindaGt> I thought sat or sun
17:12:54 <JarnoO> fairly certain Giantess has recovered already. Copious overflow yesterday like a few weeks before it erupted
17:13:04 <ynpvisitor26> 13:46:53 ‹sparekitty› hey ryan, what dates are in in the park? 13:47:07 ‹Ryan(-0.8)› Friday morning to Tuesday night
17:13:33 <GO STEAMBOAT> ok ... orning is good
17:13:41 <LindaGt> ynpvisitor26, hehe I was just looking for that
17:13:48 <Betty> time for sleep, night all
17:14:05 <JarnoO> cya Betty
17:14:07 <LindaGt> Betty, night
17:14:36 <GO STEAMBOAT> I will arrive closer to 3 on Sat
17:23:34 <KorbenC> a second Graham? an Emily? a Craig/
17:24:01 <GO F&M> browser locked up, so I have to wat for the other me to quit
17:24:51 <ynpvisitor26> Based on the video capture and the JSJ map I'm leaning toward one of the west Dwarfs, May West I
17:24:58 <ynpvisitor26> *maybe
17:25:10 <ynpvisitor26> not Mae West
17:37:36 <ynpvisitor101> Mr Mug on duty?
17:37:51 <ynpvisitor101> or somene else
17:43:14 <Kat> Crowd gathering!
17:50:22 <ynpvisitor104> Fire up the BBQ
18:04:16 <JarnoO> flower
18:09:45 <KorbenC> Kevin, where are you?
18:12:24 <JarnoO> evening Jeff
18:12:42 <Jeff> Hey Jarnoo
18:12:58 <KorbenC> Jeff, hi
18:13:07 <Jeff> Hi korben
18:13:51 <Kevin L 🥶> In the cabin.
18:14:20 <KorbenC> Kevin L 🥶, nice!
18:15:18 <Kevin L 🥶> You still at Lower Hams Jeff?
18:15:38 <Jeff> Yeah. We closed 15 minutes ago though.
18:16:01 <ynpvisitor101> what are the hours this weekend?
18:16:03 <Jeff> I'm here truth
18:16:23 <Jeff> 9-6 for the store 1030-5 for the fountain
18:16:30 <Jeff> But the fountain closes saturday
18:17:14 <ynpvisitor101> I arrive St, so itsdinner then and nothing ese :(
18:18:08 <Jeff> If the overpass hadn't closed we probably wouldn't be closing early
18:18:36 <ynpvisitor101> yeah, thats a pain. how is traffic in the area?
18:19:09 <Jeff> Busiest I've seen it backs up to black sand basin
18:19:46 <ynpvisitor101> ok, well not much we can do about that
18:20:07 <Jeff> But it clears up pretty quick from what I've seen
18:20:22 <LindaGt> Jeff, hey
18:20:30 <Jeff> Hey Linda
18:20:45 <ynpvisitor101> nice the smoke has gone now
18:21:09 <Jeff> Wind has been taking it away from the area
18:21:21 <LindaGt> Kevin L 🥶, hi
18:21:24 <KorbenC> were you up at SB yesterday?
18:22:20 <Jeff> Nope lol
18:22:50 <Kevin L 🥶> I will catch you tomorrow
18:23:11 <Jeff> My back and knee were killing me so I didn't do much after work
18:24:07 <KorbenC> :thumbsup:
18:24:56 <Jeff> Hopefully I'll be able to catch it before I leave the park next week
18:25:11 <SantaFe108> Kevin L 🥶, looks like we're running trains on labor day too this weekend
18:25:48 <Kevin L 🥶> This is the first time I have got the internet.
18:27:07 <LindaGt> Kevin L 🥶, what did you see today?
18:28:35 <Kevin L 🥶> Sounds great SantaFe. I did get a quick glance at the Eastern Idaho yesterday.
18:29:18 <SantaFe108> Kevin L 🥶, Nice!
18:30:16 <Kevin L 🥶> Grand, Daisy, Lion, Bulger, and Rocket over the trees.
18:30:31 <LindaGt> Kevin L 🥶, nice!
18:33:15 <ynpvisitor101> of
18:33:40 <LindaGt> Its messing with us
18:34:11 <ynpvisitor401> i like the shaddow
18:34:53 <LindaGt> Not as big as giantess though 😉
19:02:54 <JarnoO> helicopter
19:03:02 <JarnoO> went out of frame to the left
19:03:40 <Kevin L 🥶> I didn’t hear it.
19:11:26 <ynpvisitor111> Things are too quiet right now :)
19:11:41 <JarnoO> helicopter again
19:14:06 <ynpvisitor69> I hear it. Medic watching tree line with binoculars
19:20:08 <KorbenC> That was a nice walk :)
19:20:36 <GO F&M> you didnt mis anything, its a snooze fest here
19:20:59 <KorbenC> lol Graham :)
19:21:05 <KorbenC> Anything from Bee
19:22:17 <GO F&M> zzzzz
19:24:57 <Kevin L 🥶> There was a woman with a possible broken arm. Wonder if that was it.
19:27:00 <KorbenC> another copter
19:27:24 <KorbenC> Hey kc!
19:27:45 <kcmule> whatsup KC
19:27:50 <SantaFe108> hi kc and kc
19:28:09 <KorbenC> Hi SF, kcmule is kc, I am KC, we had to get that straigtened out a while ago :P
19:28:15 <Forestbewithyou> Hi KC and kc
19:28:20 <KorbenC> kc, im good, you?
19:28:49 <kcmule> I am case sensitive but doing ok thanks
19:28:57 <JarnoO> Riverside
19:29:02 <JarnoO> evening kc
19:29:20 <kcmule> hi JO
19:29:34 <KorbenC> Hi Jarno
19:29:49 <SantaFe108> hi kjanro
19:29:54 <SantaFe108> hi forest
19:32:48 <Forestbewithyou> Hi SF
19:37:20 <JarnoO> off for the day. Enjoy Grotto steaming
19:37:29 <Forestbewithyou> Bye Jarno
19:37:55 <KorbenC> Bye Jarno
19:43:43 <GO F&M> grotto
19:44:06 <KorbenC> something actually happened :P
19:56:48 <ynpvisitor58> of window
19:59:54 <KorbenC> c'mon OF
20:00:00 <KorbenC> there we go
20:00:12 <KorbenC> that was a really freaking slow start
20:07:45 <GO F&M> was it a very short eruption?
20:08:01 <KorbenC> I wasnt paying attention :P
20:08:24 <GO F&M> peeps still waiting
20:08:26 <KorbenC> its a short
20:08:28 <GO F&M> we missed Daisy
20:09:24 <KorbenC> 1m 47s
20:10:05 <GO F&M> churn is steamy
20:10:31 <KorbenC> when do you arrive in YNP, GFM?
20:11:01 <GO F&M> sat afternoon, probably around 3
20:13:01 <KorbenC> nice
20:13:11 <KorbenC> say hi to the Norris invaders for me
20:13:40 <GO F&M> i bet Norris will be busy this Sunday/Monday/maybe Tuesday
20:14:33 <KorbenC> id tell you too buy a purple ozark trail chair and then bring it to Norris just to mess with Craig, but then id be an accomplice :)
20:15:23 <GO F&M> i am not going to mess with Craigs chair
20:15:37 <SantaFe108> just wear a sprinkler t-shirt when you see craig
20:15:45 <KorbenC> I agree, but I wonder what would happen if everyone in Norris had a purple chair
20:16:35 <KorbenC> SF, you should get yourself a T-Shirt called "Sprinkler ie A wc ini ? maj 1042, Sprinkler ie A wc ini ? maj 1-0-4-2" :)
20:16:57 <SantaFe108> lol
20:17:24 <SantaFe108> "visitor center is having a mental breakdown trying to comprehend what you just said"
20:17:40 <KorbenC> lol
20:18:14 <SantaFe108> cant wait till 3020 when sprinkler E will be a reality
20:18:25 <KorbenC> haha
20:19:08 <Forestbewithyou> LOL
20:19:19 <Forestbewithyou> Well I am going to head out for tonight. Talk to you all later
20:19:46 <SantaFe108> cya forest
20:22:18 <GO F&M> well i am done for the day ..... goodnght
20:22:33 <SantaFe108> cya graham fan & mormant
20:22:37 <SantaFe108> mortar*
20:49:32 <KorbenC> Im off for the night, good luck Joe with Grand later.
20:49:48 <SantaFe108> cya korben
20:54:40 <Michael> Someone is enjoying Castle in person.