06:29:38
<Rich> we got color
06:45:36
<LindaG> Morning all
06:45:59
<Rich> hi LindaG
06:46:19
<KorbenC> Hi Linda
06:46:23
<KorbenC> Morning Rich
06:46:50
<Rich> mmorning KorbenC
06:47:55
<Forestbewithyou> Hi everyone
06:48:06
<KorbenC> Hi Forest.
06:48:24
<KorbenC> Happy, is today the day you are going to finally see a Severe thundertorm-ish maybe today day?
06:48:30
<Forestbewithyou> Morning Korben. I bet you already know what is going to happen here this afternoon
06:48:33
<Rich> G'day Everyonr
06:48:44
<Forestbewithyou> No
06:48:48
<Forestbewithyou> Probably not :D
06:48:50
<KorbenC> Forestbewithyou, I do! Its going to go N or you, then S of you
06:49:19
<KorbenC> The snow fell hard overnight, 1.6 inches of water equivilent, lol
06:49:29
<Forestbewithyou> That is why I am getting in a car :D
06:49:47
<LindaG> Rich, hi
06:49:51
<KorbenC> So, you will get struck in construction 30mins away from a Tornado warned storm?
06:49:52
<LindaG> Forestbewithyou, hi
06:50:03
<LindaG> KorbenC, hi
06:50:07
<Forestbewithyou> Its actually funny because I put all my spotting resources away yesterday :D
06:50:10
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Linda
06:50:18
<KorbenC> That is what happens!
06:50:59
<KorbenC> Remember though: If you have to break a windshield from hail, make sure its your car (/me glares at spotter who I know and broke their neighbors car)
06:51:15
<Forestbewithyou> LOL
06:51:25
<KorbenC> As always, wonderful sunrise here, everything has the alpine bright yellow glow to it.
06:51:33
<Forestbewithyou> There isn't a risk of hail though
06:52:04
<KorbenC> Well.... with any Severe Tsm comes risk of hail
06:52:26
<KorbenC> but yeah, you dont have much cape :)
06:52:29
<Forestbewithyou> I guess
06:53:18
<KorbenC> but you have pretty high shear, so low but possible.
06:54:22
<Forestbewithyou> agreed
06:55:43
<Forestbewithyou> I have a feeling this will be my last severe t-storm chance this year
06:56:00
<KorbenC> I suspect as well.
06:56:26
<Forestbewithyou> although I said that with the last one so maybe not :D
06:56:33
<KorbenC> lol
06:57:35
<KorbenC> I am looking forward to Iota!
06:57:53
<LindaG> Going to be in the 70s again today. Great weather
06:58:13
<Forestbewithyou> Nice
06:58:25
<KorbenC> LindaG, nice! Too hot for me though, I prefer this weather, 20F and 6in of snow on the ground :P
06:58:45
<LindaG> KorbenC, go for it 😊
06:59:40
<KorbenC> LindaG, not yet, I am currently laughing at a certain talking fruit (orange) :P
06:59:56
<KorbenC> (Its pretty bad)
07:00:06
<Forestbewithyou> 🤦♂️
07:01:09
<Forestbewithyou> Well I have to go somewhere so I will bbl.
07:01:26
<LindaGp> Forestbewithyou, anywhere? Lol enjoy
07:01:34
<KorbenC> LindaGp, lol
07:01:41
<KorbenC> can we peek at Daisy?
07:06:25
<LindaGp> hey craigC
07:06:30
<CraigC> hey folks
07:06:33
<CraigC> LindaGp, howdy
07:06:36
<KorbenC> Hey Traveler
07:06:43
<CraigC> KorbenC, hey Cooper
07:06:57
<LindaGp> CraigC, chilly by you?
07:07:08
<CraigC> LindaGp, VERY! you?
07:07:19
<LindaGp> 70s 😊
07:07:26
<CraigC> whoaaaa
07:07:37
<KorbenC> CraigC, how cold?
07:08:01
<LindaGp> Aurum
07:08:07
<CraigC> KorbenC, I don't know, but I just went to get some creamer out of the trailer and I am freezging'
07:08:09
<KorbenC> .
07:08:09
<KorbenC> .
07:08:10
<KorbenC> .
07:08:10
<KorbenC> .
07:08:32
<KorbenC> CraigC, William still traveling with you?
07:09:12
<CraigC> KorbenC, we came back to my house.... storm hit us, was going to be 20 degrees overnight in Moab for this week
07:09:25
<KorbenC> ah! That makes sense.
07:09:43
<KorbenC> You could have made him go get the creamer :P
07:10:08
<KorbenC> Well, seems like you two are enjoying yourselves.
07:10:18
<LindaGp> Maybe head to Tucson, must be warm there 😉
07:10:49
<CraigC> KorbenC, great hikes last week near Goblin Valley
07:12:13
<KorbenC> CraigC, yeah, I was jealous :)
07:12:14
<LindaGp> CraigC, is that where you took those pics? Moab?
07:12:46
<LindaGp> Pump!
07:13:11
<KorbenC> If we take alot of peeks at Daisy, we see it :P
07:13:24
<KorbenC> Still no Daisy (as far as I see).
07:13:25
<LindaGp> We are looking at it now
07:13:48
<LindaGp> well at least down basin
07:14:05
<CraigC> LindaGp, no, we never got to Moab, we were in Goblin Valley, about 60 to 80 miles West of Moab
07:15:13
<LindaGp> Nice i saw the goblins. Those tall ricks where it snowed was also Goblin?
07:15:24
<CraigC> yep
07:15:25
<LindaGp> *rocks
07:15:43
<LindaGp> Sort of reminded me of zion
07:16:33
<LindaGp> Morning Dave
07:17:20
<Dave from B™> Morning Linda, CraigC, Korben
07:17:49
<Dave from B™> CraigC, you do know this is "No save November", right?:)
07:17:54
<Dave from B™> shave*
07:18:15
<KorbenC> Dave from B™, well, you were the one who stole all of his hair :P
07:18:32
<KorbenC> There isnt anything you cant break :D
07:18:43
<CraigC> Dave from B™, hey dude.... I forget all the trends I am supposed to follow
07:19:23
<Dave from B™> haha. I'm glad you had a good time. Are you going back out anytime soon?
07:19:43
<LindaGp> Lions been busy
07:21:59
<KorbenC> Its been picking up Daisy's slack
07:23:57
<LindaGp> sure has
07:24:35
<LindaGp> I like when parking lot is white, easier on the eyes 🙄
07:31:25
<Dave from B™> I like to see the spot on the parking lot that melts
07:33:49
<LindaGp> Well bee was splashing I think. Just a little
07:34:22
<LindaGp> A roar
07:34:28
<LindaGp> Here it is
07:34:29
<CraigC> Dave from B™, hopefully head down to Moab Sunday or Monday
07:34:35
<LindaGp> lion
07:34:44
<KorbenC> yay
07:35:14
<LindaGp> Minor
07:36:52
<Plate> restart :)
07:36:54
<LindaGp> Lion again
07:38:06
<KorbenC> YAEY
07:38:16
<KorbenC> 0/70 (1) and Sub-THETA!
07:38:20
<KorbenC> as of last night, but meh.
07:40:06
<KorbenC> LindaGp, you can change your lon to no minor
07:40:41
<KorbenC> change your Lion to a minor :P
07:41:04
<LindaGp> :p why?
07:41:23
<KorbenC> LindaGp, I was correcting my error, not telling you what to do :P
07:41:36
<KorbenC> but, #1) It went from minor to not minor :)
07:44:04
<KorbenC> I am thinking that we will get an invest in the Pacific in the next few days (If JO is here).
07:46:23
<LindaGp> So when lion does that at what point do you consider it one eruption?
07:46:32
<KorbenC> I think so
07:46:51
<KorbenC> because it was a restart, just like SB and Grand, when it happens you dont enter it as a seperate eruption.
07:46:57
<LindaGp> KorbenC, you think it was one eruption?
07:47:14
<KorbenC> Castle too, if it has a long pause and looks minor, but then restarts and acts like major its a major not a minor.
07:47:33
<KorbenC> I think one eruption, put down restart at 0736 though, and if I am wrong JO will correct me later
07:47:47
<LindaGp> ☺ ok
07:50:29
<LindaGp> Too many geysers in hiding
07:50:59
<LindaGp> Little bit of steam in front of bee
07:53:43
<LindaGp> I wonder if turban
07:53:46
<KorbenC> Jarno, as predicted :D
07:53:50
<JarnoO> technical issues at the lecturer's side are a joy sometimes :D
07:54:00
<KorbenC> haha
07:54:06
<JarnoO> and yes, 0734 was a paused eruption
07:54:25
<KorbenC> As already said, 0/70 and Theta, and probably going to see a PAC Invest soon
07:54:52
<LindaGp> JarnoO, hi 👍
07:55:18
<JarnoO> morning all
07:56:46
<LindaGp> My wifi has dropped like 50 times since I've been in, so annoying
08:09:58
<LindaGp> OF
08:14:43
<KorbenC> Make sure to check Daisy after OF :D
08:14:49
<KorbenC> 1d 14h 33m :(
08:18:37
<LindaGp> hopefully it will clear nicely for grand
08:21:28
<Dave from B™> It's Eric's favorite emoji:)
08:21:34
<KorbenC> lol
08:34:36
<LindaGp> Wown76 degrees here
08:36:10
<JarnoO> Lion time
08:37:52
<:P> 38° here.
08:38:05
<Eric> Morning all
08:38:53
<JarnoO> morning Eric
08:38:55
<KorbenC> Hi Eric
08:39:18
<>Eric<> Hi Jarno & Coop
08:39:35
<JarnoO> 0734 Lion was 36s+3m04s = 3m40s, meaning next Lion @ 0842±5m if series continues
08:39:37
<Dave from B™> Morning Eroc
08:39:45
<>Eric<> Hi Dave
08:39:54
<>Eric<> Lion tryin
08:43:33
<LindaGp> >Eric<, hi
08:46:17
<KorbenC> YNM IS UP
08:46:17
<KorbenC> .
08:46:18
<KorbenC> .
08:46:18
<KorbenC> .
08:46:19
<KorbenC> .
08:46:23
<KorbenC> Yippie!
08:46:51
<KorbenC> At least we are not stuck with YNR only for now :)
08:47:20
<Dave from B™> Thanks, Korben. I love staring at straight lines
08:47:23
<CraigC> hey Eric
08:48:06
<Dave from B™> I say SB Wed pm
08:48:51
<CraigC> good guess
08:50:02
<Dave from B™> Yes, it is a guess:). Now, time will tell if it is good
08:50:04
<LindaGp> Daisy I think
08:50:21
<LindaGp> See it?
08:50:28
<JarnoO> looks like it
08:52:08
<CraigC> Dave from B™, thanks for the Moab info, good stuff for planning entry
08:52:10
<>Eric<> Hi Craig!
08:52:17
<CraigC> >Eric<, how's it going
08:52:38
<>Eric<> Going well, trying to survive work so I can get to the weekends :-P
08:52:54
<JarnoO> morning fish
08:52:54
<CraigC> :thumbsup:
08:53:04
<fishynp> good morning.
08:53:08
<Dave from B™> yw, Craig
08:53:10
<LindaGp> This white on white is tough
08:53:15
<LindaGp> Grand Maybe?
08:53:26
<fishynp> YNM back up. Most likely a power outage at Norris. Temp loggers should be back online as well now.
08:53:30
<>Eric<> Hi Linda & Fish
08:53:36
<LindaGp> It ie
08:53:37
<JarnoO> don't think it's Grand
08:53:49
<LindaGp> no grand
08:53:53
<>Eric<> Thanks for fixing YFT!
08:54:14
<fishynp> no problem.
08:54:19
<Dave from B™> Eric, I hear ya. First real time in my life that I'm not wanting to work...all I can think of is getting home:)
08:55:28
<>Eric<> Just need a little Loverboy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxhj1Is7HpY
08:56:05
<Dave from B™> One of my college favrites
08:58:22
<>Eric<> A seismo along the powerlines up above artemesia would be interesting :-D
08:58:47
<JarnoO> Daisy was ±3½m, so looks like it's back at ±2h intervals
08:58:54
<JarnoO> still good considering the bad weather
08:59:37
<>Eric<> Lion?
08:59:40
<>Eric<> nope
08:59:58
<JarnoO> because apparantly a heavy downpour caused Daisy to suddenly jump to a 1h58m interval in 1998, whereas the average sat at 1h35m-ish
09:00:16
<JarnoO> (for one interval, though)
09:03:38
<JarnoO> Lion end of series
09:04:22
<LindaGp> So I guess they turned the parking lot heaters on
09:05:16
<Dave from B™> That thermal spot is cool
09:05:33
<LindaGp> 😊
09:05:56
<>Eric<> I think it is warm dave
09:05:58
<LindaGp> I like the steaming holes
09:07:24
<Dave from B™> You can call 14F warm:D
09:09:24
<CraigC> I named that spot "Ham's Hole"
09:09:35
<JarnoO> -25.6°C? Uhh... no thank you. Though the Frisians and eventually the rest of the Netherlands would get "eleven cities fever" - aka hope for a natural ice skating event in Frisia through its eleven cities
09:10:52
<LindaGp> CraigC, 😊
09:11:01
<LindaGp> Grand
09:11:08
<JarnoO> woohoo
09:11:14
<>Eric<> grand
09:12:04
<LindaGp> that whole thing was angled left
09:18:14
<LindaGp> Saw some spikes
09:19:29
<LindaGp> 2nd?
09:19:45
<JarnoO> would have to look on the replay
09:20:24
<LindaGp> 2nd now I think
09:21:04
<LindaGp> JarnoO, you want to do video?
09:21:13
<JarnoO> yes
09:21:37
<LindaGp> 👍
09:34:58
<Dave from B™> Oh, no...my social security number has just been suspended because of suspicious activity in Texas. Scammers should be in prison.
09:35:25
<Dave from B™> You can't tell me those numbers can't be traced somehow
09:37:05
<LindaGp> And my car warranty is expired 😞
09:38:26
<LindaGp> Well I left bee for kevin😊
09:39:02
<:P> Thanks. It will go at 1601.
09:39:26
<LindaGp> :P, 😃
09:39:38
<Dave from B™> now :P becomes clearer. It was a snow refercne:D
09:39:56
<Dave from B™> I should have known
09:40:04
<LindaGp> And we have a time for aurum and daisy
09:40:05
<>Eric<> Cactus is back!
09:40:06
<KorbenC> Dave ,did you really not realize?
09:40:13
<>Eric<> We missed you :-D
09:40:31
<KorbenC> We missed you Kevin, at least, the real not fruit version of yourself :p
09:40:44
<Dave from B™> I thought it was ERic, he like the :P emoji...at least when he is talking to me:D
09:41:00
<LindaGp> He's been busy herding quail
09:41:08
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Snowed at the Zion house last weekend.
09:41:17
<>Eric<> Dave :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P
09:41:35
<>Eric<> Nice, I bet it's beautiful there right now Kevin
09:41:54
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Did have a mess of quail tracks by the coop this morning Linda.
09:42:04
<LindaGp> Kevin L™ 🌵, nice
09:42:09
<Dave from B™> See what I mean:D
09:42:48
<>Eric<> We really need 1024b symmetric keys for our identifiers!
09:42:54
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Last night I came face to face with a hummingbirds when I came out of the depot. It hoovered there about a minute and was only about 2 feet away.
09:43:13
<>Eric<> tattooed as barcodes on our butts at birth :-P
09:43:28
<>Eric<> Wow...thats cool Kevin
09:45:37
<LindaGp> Kevin L™ 🌵, that happened to me once, I thought it would dive bomb me lol
09:47:58
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Lot of work at Kansas City today Eric
09:48:41
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Also looks like they are welding a joint (different than smoking one) at Flagstaff.
09:50:08
<LindaGp> OF
09:51:48
<>Eric<> Cool...did you see someone drop the dates for the crossover replace like 11/19-11/22 or somewhere in there
09:52:16
<>Eric<> I assume they have to cut the track to drop in those new pan pieces
09:54:30
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I haven't had time to really check that Eric.
09:57:44
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Looks like they may be loading the autorack.
09:59:33
<>Eric<> That is a LOT of axles on that trailer!
09:59:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Never seen that before!
10:00:13
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Perry Mason music.
10:00:21
<LindaGp> Go for it
10:00:30
<LindaGp> Controls released
10:01:01
<>Eric<> Me either, that trailer is crazy
10:01:04
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Got thermite on Flagstaff now too!
10:01:12
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Got it
10:01:29
<LindaGp> Cya later, enjoy
10:01:52
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Bye
10:02:23
<>Eric<> Are they going to load both autoracks on that one trailer???
10:02:27
<>Eric<> Bye Linda
10:03:55
<Kevin L™ 🌵> No, the autorack is 89' long. They will do a pivot on the trailers. Going to be a high/wide/long move.
10:05:37
<Dave from B™> Kevin, can you post the link again?
10:06:15
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Kansas City https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNvU59Ld8aA&ab_channel=VirtualRailfan
10:06:40
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Flagstaff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnotRrW1udI&ab_channel=VirtualRailfan
10:06:48
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Both can rewind.
10:09:01
<Dave from B™> Thanks. Now, I won't get anything done today:)
10:10:01
<>Eric<> Nice to finally see these autoracks leave...the saga is close to over :-D
10:10:50
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Those sidewinder operators are good. Amazing what they can do. We used them a lot laying pipeline.
10:16:54
<Kevin L™ 🌵> The timestamp for the thermite weld in Flagstaff is 0958
10:56:41
<>Eric<> Wow...just saw this note: "With the utmost respect and gratitude, we are granting Veterans and Gold Star Families free access to the iconic and treasured lands they fought to protect starting this Veterans Day and every single day thereafter," said Secretary of the Interior David L. Bernhardt.
10:57:16
<>Eric<> Not sure how veterans go about getting their lifetime pass, but this seems like a good call.
10:57:18
<Dave from B™> I believe that announcement came out a few weeks ago. Good news for all veterans
10:57:35
<>Eric<> One thing I can agree with Bernhardt on :-D
10:57:40
<Dave from B™> What is a Gold Star family?
10:57:57
<>Eric<> Family's who had a member die I believe.
10:58:10
<>Eric<> in service.
10:58:39
<>Eric<> ohh, and specifically while serving in a time of conflict.
10:58:55
<Dave from B™> That's good
10:59:00
<>Eric<> Pretty dang important to treat these people right!
11:00:04
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Gold Star Families are those who have lost a family member because of military service, specifically wars, terrorist attacks and military operation outside the U.S.
11:04:51
<L> Daisy
11:05:10
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Hard to see it
11:07:08
<Dave from B™> It's a Haisy Daisy
11:07:34
<L> Just came back from walk, itsn75 degrees and I'm sweating. This isnt normal
11:07:55
<KorbenC> There is a 2ft icicle outside of my window :P
11:08:06
<L> KorbenC, 😊
11:09:00
<Kevin L™ 🌵> 47° here.
11:10:13
<L> Kevin L™ 🌵, come to Jersey 🙂
11:10:30
<L> Changed daisy to 11:03
11:14:11
<L> What's lion thinking about
11:16:10
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Are you going to be around Thursday Linda?
11:29:59
<L> Kevin L™ 🌵, if I am it's to cover kats shift till 8:30,
11:30:38
<CraigC> sorry I left you guys hanging on my old shifts :(
11:31:02
<>Eric<> slacker
11:31:11
<L> CraigC, 😊 kat had surgery so things are busy
11:31:20
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I have to leave Around 1230 +/- for a Dr appointment for my wife and was looking for coverage.
11:31:22
<CraigC> how is she
11:32:18
<Dave from B™> She drove for a few minutes on Monday but it was too difficult. She is still in a lot of pain and basically one handed
11:32:31
<CraigC> :(
11:32:48
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Not fun.
11:33:47
<L> Kevin L™ 🌵, so what would that be my time? 14:30?
11:34:14
<L> OF
11:34:41
<Kevin L™ 🌵> That is mst so I think it would be 1430. That was the latest one they had.
11:35:13
<L> Kevin L™ 🌵, for you, yes 😉
11:35:42
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I have to watch the stamps the post office gives me. Somehow paying a tax bill with a love stamp doesn't seem right.
11:36:24
<CraigC> hahahaha
11:36:56
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Thanks Linda.
11:37:06
<L> Kevin L™ 🌵, 👍
11:37:25
<Dave from B™> haha
11:37:42
<Dave from B™> Kevin, just put the stamp on upside down
11:38:03
<>Eric<> Need Darth Vader stamp Kevin :-P
11:38:12
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I like the ones with the flag myself.
11:38:22
<>Eric<> that works
11:38:29
<Dave from B™> Yep. I do like the flags as well
11:38:35
<>Eric<> YNP stamps are nice, but wouldn't waste them on taxes!
11:38:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Noo.
11:39:19
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I have some really cool ones for the 150th Gold Spike that are awesome.
11:40:00
<Kevin L™ 🌵> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Transcontinental-Railroad-1-Pane-of-18-USPS-First-Class-Forever-Postage-Stamps-Trains-Wedding-Celebration-18-Stamps/308115570?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=3952&&adid=22222222227313597689&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=387732725011&wl4=pla-825960195298&wl5=9030743&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113489955&wl11=online&wl12=308115570&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiAkan9BRAqEiwAP9X6UUblebdiv3n
11:40:24
<CraigC> how cool
11:40:26
<>Eric<> Auto rack is about to roll out Kevin
11:41:04
<L> So I have to car shop, what should I buy? Looking for suggestions
11:41:09
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Wonder how many pilot cars they will need.
11:42:00
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I haven't been real happy with my Dodge but the Honda seems OK but expensive.
11:42:44
<CraigC> L, I like this consumer site for car reviews; https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/suvs
11:43:18
<L> Kevin L™ 🌵, I have to go browse, I will check out honda
11:43:21
<>Eric<> used Rav4 for trailheads :-D
11:43:31
<CraigC> my friend got the Mazda CX-5, then my last gf, Geralynn got one, and we liked it
11:43:34
<L> CraigC, thx, I'll take a look
11:43:37
<>Eric<> oh nevermind, you are in Jersey :-D
11:43:49
<>Eric<> I love my Mazda CX-5!
11:44:02
<CraigC> there are 3 thumbs up for the CX-5
11:44:03
<L> >Eric<, 😳 we have trailheads
11:44:14
<>Eric<> Have a 2017, bought new...awesome vehicle
11:44:31
<CraigC> geralynn had a Jeep Trailhawk before which was a blast, but not as reliable
11:44:31
<L> I think a friend has a mazda
11:45:28
<CraigC> my other friend got the Honda, loves it, but it is not as sporty and as fun to drive as the Mazda
11:45:56
<L> Bunch of dealerships close, Ford, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, GMC, not sure there is Mazda
11:46:01
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I had one in the 80's. It wasn't a bad vehicle but I assume they are much different now.
11:46:02
<>Eric<> I take my CX-5 on some seriously bad roads too :-D Fun to Drive and does great in pretty much all weather.
11:46:38
<CraigC> I have a Mazda 3 for running around and taking my bike, and it is an amazing little coupe
11:46:42
<>Eric<> Super quiet inside if that is something that you want/need. Quietest interior of all the models we looked at.
11:47:24
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I had a Hyundai. Got great gas mileage and ran well. Dealer service was a pain in the butt but probably just the dealership.
11:47:35
<L> I have a Malibu now, the larger one, 2007
11:48:12
<>Eric<> I have found all dealer service to be a pain
11:48:19
<L> Friends have a hyundai too that they lease
11:48:24
<>Eric<> Smile with a knife in their hand
11:48:50
<L> I'd like to stay local since a lot of dealers within 2 miles
11:49:18
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I gave the Hyundai Elantra to my Daughter. Car gets 40+ mpg on the road and has plenty of power.
11:49:35
<L> Appreciate the input havent had to think about this in a long time
11:49:49
<L> Kevin L™ 🌵, 👍
11:49:55
<CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, those seem to be really good sedans for the money, I have had several friends get those
11:50:00
<>Eric<> Yes, car choice really depends on what/how you want to use it
11:51:31
<Dave from B™> I think this would work better , Linda....
11:51:34
<Dave from B™> https://www.google.com/search?q=old+volkswagen+bus&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS769US769&sxsrf=ALeKk019IiaBpkSiZp9YAydXS-ipFkZKCQ:1605034268153&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=zxNpTOlWV2IZaM%252Cm-eJoFWykpLUZM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSpBrYsh85XakN56hU558SzH60CcA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjY8Z7L0vjsAhW2JTQIHY2_A1YQ9QF6BAgOEE4&biw=994&bih=846#imgrc=zxNpTOlWV2IZaM
11:51:56
<CraigC> Dave from B™, hahaha, my daughter LOVES those
11:52:09
<L> Yeah dont really need 4-wheel drive. Would like a 4 door decent size. Not real small cars for me. Totaled a couple, I want something between me and them.
11:52:23
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Needs Rickie Tickie Stickies.
11:52:40
<L> Dave from B™, would love it
11:52:52
<Dave from B™> I remember my uncle had the Ford equivalent when he was young
11:53:23
<L> Well lunch time and car shopping, thanks
11:54:34
<Dave from B™> Car shopping increased my stress level almost as much as COVID does
11:55:09
<CraigC> it can be fun
11:55:45
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Like hitting your thumb with a 32oz waffle faced hammer.
11:56:09
<CraigC> hmmmm, getting a new toy seems exciting to me
11:56:56
<JarnoO> I always like it when I get new tech stuff (especially computers). Also Legos
11:57:10
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Hole in the road where you throw your money.
11:57:56
<>Eric<> I like new backpacking gear :-D
11:58:04
<>Eric<> much less stress than a car.
11:58:50
<CraigC> Legos, cool.... I wish my parents had given me more Legos when I was a kid
11:59:01
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Power tools and trains.
11:59:23
<CraigC> oh yeah, I need to start putting my train stuff on the classifieds
11:59:37
<JarnoO> I really like Lego sets with thousands of pieces. Though I tend to put them together within a day...
12:00:15
<CraigC> sets were before my time, it was just different sized blocks
12:00:35
<CraigC> the lego train was really cool
12:00:54
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Problem with a set is if you lose one block it messes it up.
12:01:24
<JarnoO> true, though they do include a few extra pieces if they're very small
12:02:42
<JarnoO> leaves me kinda puzzling - if I have the space, time and money, do I go for a Lego room or for an H0 model railroad?
12:03:27
<CraigC> JarnoO, model railroad has endless future possibilities
12:03:36
<JarnoO> true that
12:08:08
<Kevin L™ 🌵> You can do a whole lot of stuff with model railroads. I do N scale which give more options than HO for smaller spaces.
12:08:21
<>Eric<> autorack heading out
12:08:28
<CraigC> Kevin L™ 🌵, ^that re: N
12:08:54
<Kevin L™ 🌵> That is a BIG load
12:10:50
<Kevin L™ 🌵> They also have computer controls (DCC) for trains.
12:13:36
<Dave from B™> What is inside that trailer?
12:14:54
<L> Cya later, enjoy
12:15:07
<JarnoO> cya Linda
12:15:11
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Air
12:15:18
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Later Linda
12:15:19
<Dave from B™> :P
12:16:10
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It was full of cars.
12:16:48
<Kevin L™ 🌵> There are 3 levels (racks), hence the name "autorack".
12:17:03
<Kevin L™ 🌵> They hold up to 15 cars
12:17:32
<Dave from B™> I came into this after the fact. I thought it looked like a car carrier. How long did it take them to take it off a train?
12:18:08
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Not very long. There is a timelapse of it.
12:18:56
<Kevin L™ 🌵> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkui84o6rNA&ab_channel=VirtualRailfan
12:20:13
<>Eric<> They lifted it off the bridge...then down to the ground 2 months ago. Finally trucking off the racks for repairs
12:30:27
<Dave from B™> Now, I understand. I didn't realize there was a derailment. How convenient right in front of the streaming cam!
12:31:04
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Pretty interesting process.
12:31:21
<Dave from B™> I bet that was a hefty bill
12:31:51
<Kevin L™ 🌵> And it isn't over yet!
12:31:53
<>Eric<> They are still adding up costs dave!
12:31:58
<>Eric<> :-D
12:32:28
<Dave from B™> one more autorack to go
12:33:02
<Kevin L™ 🌵> The racks were loaded. They had a forklift put a container up and some fool drove the car into it and then they moved it to the fround and he backed out.
12:44:22
<Dave from B™> Time to go sweat. Enjoy the flakes.
12:44:44
<JarnoO> cya Dave
12:49:43
<Forestbewithyou> Hi all
12:49:56
<>Eric<> Hi Forest
12:50:02
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Eric
12:52:07
<CraigC> Forestbewithyou, hey dude
12:52:26
<Forestbewithyou> Hey Craig
12:52:57
<KorbenC> My favorite ski resort opens tommorow :D
12:52:57
<CraigC> Forestbewithyou, do you have some of your mom's muffins to share?
12:53:09
<Forestbewithyou> Not right now
12:53:22
<KorbenC> Sadly, I am not going to go, figure I would let them get a few more runs open before we comit to COVID. :P
12:53:25
<KorbenC> Hey Craig
12:53:37
<CraigC> KorbenC, hey Cooper
12:53:45
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Korben
12:54:05
<KorbenC> Hey plural version of Tree :P
12:54:24
<Forestbewithyou> lol 🌳🌳🌳
13:01:50
<KorbenC> Forest about to get hit by el storm :)
13:02:13
<Forestbewithyou> ... probably not :D
13:02:33
<KorbenC> haha, if that storm is dead by the time it gets to you, I would be impressed.
13:03:22
<Forestbewithyou> Which one the one with the severe-tstorms
13:03:27
<Forestbewithyou> Or the other one
13:03:44
<KorbenC> the not severe
13:03:54
<KorbenC> oh, Tor warning
13:03:59
<Forestbewithyou> I think it is going west of me
13:04:41
<KorbenC> Probably went, "WAIT FOREST LIVES THERE! OK, Abort, turn around, go anywhere but there." :P
13:05:29
<Forestbewithyou> I need them to hold off for a few hours :)
13:09:14
<KorbenC> Fluff
13:09:33
<KorbenC> Its coming your way Forest (the storm west of your big city)
13:11:24
<Forestbewithyou> I dunno I think its going to miss me
13:11:28
<Forestbewithyou> its going to be close
13:11:42
<KorbenC> You know that the storms ahve to keep it interesting :P
13:12:46
<Forestbewithyou> Of course
13:14:34
<Forestbewithyou> I am keeping very very low expectations
13:16:04
<Forestbewithyou> Well I am now under a tornado watch
13:16:19
<KorbenC> yup
13:16:36
<KorbenC> are you finally going to see your first Tornado? :P
13:16:49
<Forestbewithyou> The answer is what is no
13:16:56
<KorbenC> lol
13:17:00
<KorbenC> Hint the ":P"
13:17:33
<Forestbewithyou> fair
13:18:27
<KorbenC> Forestbewithyou, are you planning to travel east to try to intercept areas where storm development is most likely?
13:19:03
<Forestbewithyou> uhh that is unknown. I would have to wait until 4
13:19:12
<JarnoO> flower
13:36:22
<Forestbewithyou> The skies have become super dark
14:17:20
<JarnoO> Bee is thinking about it
14:17:59
<KorbenC> Very happy Bee for certain
14:18:05
<Ynpvisitor11> Anyone else for a Steamboat at around 0720 on YNR?
14:18:13
<KorbenC> Not Steamboat
14:18:34
<Ynpvisitor11> Thx
14:18:39
<KorbenC> It was mech noise.
14:18:55
<Ynpvisitor11> :thumbsup:
14:21:55
<visitor9> interesting that the logger took a jump at that time too
14:22:31
<JarnoO> that jump occurred around 0630, not 0720
14:22:40
<visitor9> yes, true
14:22:40
<JarnoO> probably a false start or something
14:22:54
<KorbenC> I can confirm that the noise WAS Mechanical noise :P Dont think it had anything to do with anything but mech noise :P
14:23:27
<KorbenC> I do like what the logger shows thouhg :D
14:23:38
<JarnoO> am thinking Echinus' logger will show some spikes with tomorrow's upload. After having larger than normal oscillations, it was narrowing down at the time of the download
14:24:52
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Truck is back on the KC cam Eric.
14:25:11
<KorbenC> Kevin L™ 🌵, Hey Kevin!
14:25:21
<KorbenC> BSB?
14:25:23
<KorbenC> .
14:25:23
<KorbenC> .
14:25:29
<KorbenC> Yup
14:25:30
<KorbenC> .
14:25:31
<KorbenC> .
14:25:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Looks like it.
14:26:12
<JarnoO> Theta is now tropical
14:26:52
<KorbenC> Nice
14:26:53
<>Eric<> trailer is back for auto rack #2 - Ethal
14:26:55
<KorbenC> 1425
14:27:02
<>Eric<> Ehtel
14:27:04
<>Eric<> Ethel
14:27:07
<>Eric<> There we go
14:28:27
<KorbenC> Anyone sending at text!?
14:28:42
<KorbenC> Kevin L™ 🌵, we ahve missed you around here, how are the chickens?
14:29:04
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Cold
14:29:22
<KorbenC> Do they still lay eggs in this weather?
14:29:52
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Not as many. I only get about 4 a day from 10 hens.
14:30:17
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It is over 50° today though.
14:30:55
<Betty> Hi all
14:31:08
<Betty> Hey Kevin L™ 🌵
14:31:30
<JarnoO> evening Betty
14:31:31
<LindaG> Betty, hi
14:31:34
<JarnoO> hi Linda
14:31:37
<LindaG> Hello all
14:31:39
<StaceyM> Hi, Betty
14:31:40
<Betty> Nice to have you back, I missed you
14:31:42
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Indy
14:31:45
<Kevin L™ 🌵> .
14:31:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> .
14:31:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> .
14:31:50
<>Eric<> Nice
14:31:53
<JarnoO> woohoo
14:31:55
<LindaG> Ok I'll send text
14:31:55
<>Eric<> Ding Dong
14:32:06
<>Eric<> Ok....say hi to everyone :-D
14:32:19
<>Eric<> Subject: Yo, Gazer!
14:32:21
<Betty> Hi LindaG, JarnoO, StaceyM, >Eric<,
14:32:25
<>Eric<> Hi Betty
14:32:48
<KorbenC> This is fun
14:33:07
<LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, I'm here txt sent
14:33:20
<KorbenC> received
14:33:26
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Thanks
14:33:40
<>Eric<> No subject...boooo!
14:33:40
<LindaG> 👍
14:33:49
<KB> yay, was just checking on bee when text came in
14:34:17
<>Eric<> All GeyserAlerts should have the subject: Want to learn how to make extra $$ in your spare time.
14:34:24
<KB> I was worried we might not get indy
14:34:44
<Betty> I bet I‘m in the tunnel when BH starts 😕
14:34:55
<>Eric<> No Betty, unfair
14:35:08
<JarnoO> it wasn't actually that far off a no-Indy. Had some good (and big) splashes the past 30 minutes or so
14:35:16
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Hop off at the next bahnhof!
14:35:34
<KB> pray it goes soon, before fluffy
14:35:45
<Betty> Haha, Bad connection anywhere
14:35:49
<KorbenC> KB, shhhh
14:35:57
<LindaG> Oh dear, fluffy
14:36:04
<KorbenC> No, no fluggy
14:36:06
<KorbenC> Fluffy
14:36:18
<KorbenC> Cant you fit Bee and OF in the window>
14:36:29
<KorbenC> c'mon Bee
14:36:33
<>Eric<> I think the camera got stuck
14:36:41
<>Eric<> BH
14:36:45
<LindaG> Yay
14:36:46
<>Eric<> or not
14:36:48
<KorbenC> YAY
14:36:49
<KorbenC> ..
14:36:49
<KorbenC> .
14:36:49
<KorbenC> .
14:36:52
<LindaG> Boo
14:36:55
<KorbenC> BAH
14:36:57
<KorbenC> NOPE
14:36:57
<>Eric<> wow...lots of water without starting!
14:36:57
<JarnoO> a nope
14:37:01
<KB> splash
14:37:02
<>Eric<> BH
14:37:03
<>Eric<> now
14:37:07
<KB> hehe
14:37:08
<>Eric<> or not again
14:37:13
<KorbenC> This time!
14:37:16
<KorbenC> or not
14:37:19
<KorbenC> LMAO
14:37:21
<>Eric<> holy cow, huge indy
14:37:33
<KB> hehe
14:37:41
<>Eric<> BH thinks its too cold
14:37:45
<>Eric<> staying in it's hole
14:37:50
<JarnoO> I think wind direction is helping here. Usually Indy is angled, but with this wind it can shoot straight up
14:38:11
<KB> Wake up Bee
14:38:19
<Betty> There goes my view
14:38:32
<KorbenC> Bee trying again
14:38:51
<KB> yikes, spinning circle
14:38:54
<>Eric<> failed again
14:38:55
<KB> whew, gone
14:38:55
<KorbenC> c'mon already Beehive
14:39:09
<>Eric<> never seen bee try so many times
14:39:13
<Betty> Enjoy the hive, later
14:39:15
<KB> I have
14:39:18
<JarnoO> cya Betty
14:39:24
<>Eric<> Bye Betty
14:39:25
<JarnoO> there'll be a capture hopefully
14:39:25
<KorbenC> Betty, bye
14:39:30
<KB> whew, no fluffy yet
14:39:39
<>Eric<> maybe it will still be trying when you get out of the tunnel
14:39:54
<LindaG> Just do it bee
14:40:14
<KB> it is so gloomy here, but at least we don't have snow
14:41:18
<LindaG> Ever have indy and no bee?
14:41:28
<LindaG> Asking for a friend
14:41:29
<KB> shhh
14:41:32
<KorbenC> LindaG, rare
14:41:47
<JarnoO> ehmm... Prefer not to talk about it
14:41:48
<KB> only when it is broken
14:42:04
<KB> or a one minute one midway thru cycle
14:42:08
<>Eric<> Ask Graham that question Linda :-D
14:42:10
<StaceyM> What's been the average lead time lately?
14:42:16
<KB> Come on Bumble Bee
14:42:29
<JarnoO> 10-20 minutes or so
14:42:35
<TooWarm4Snow> Close, but no cigar
14:42:39
<JarnoO> commonly it hangs around 15-ish
14:42:45
<StaceyM> And we're at 11 minutes now...?
14:42:53
<JarnoO> yes
14:43:04
<visitor9> it's only been 11 minutes!
14:43:14
<>Eric<> loading up 2nd autorack now
14:43:21
<visitor9> when it gets to 40, then worry
14:43:47
<KB> I am already worried, because of other geyser
14:43:54
<>Eric<> I like to start worrying at 13m
14:44:17
<JarnoO> either way it'll most likely be sub-5m at this rate
14:44:19
<visitor9> ha ha
14:44:25
<JarnoO> (Bee's eruption, that is)
14:44:38
<KorbenC> .
14:44:38
<KorbenC> .
14:44:39
<KorbenC> .BEEE
14:44:44
<JarnoO> :bee:
14:44:48
<>Eric<> other geyser ie too
14:44:48
<visitor9> deeeelaaay
14:44:49
<KB> and we wait
14:45:03
<>Eric<> Nice!
14:45:05
<>Eric<> wooohoo
14:45:10
<KB> Beehive!
14:45:13
<7777> :bee:
14:45:40
<KB> that's pretty
14:45:54
<KB> wait your turn fluffy
14:46:22
<ynpvisitor352> Kool beans
14:46:41
<ynpvisitor352> No rainbow thou for you Korben
14:46:52
<visitor9> is OF ie?
14:47:04
<LindaG> Think so dont tell camop
14:47:12
<KB> that was what I was trying to figure out
14:47:22
<visitor9> 40 lashes
14:47:27
<LindaG> Lol
14:47:31
<KB> but it won't update
14:47:35
<7777> just very strong preplay I'm sure
14:47:38
<>Eric<> I think camops internet went down
14:47:46
<>Eric<> he was here and then went offline
14:48:06
<>Eric<> oops, we all know it couldn't have happened at a "worse" time.
14:48:32
<LindaG> Maybe not fluffy
14:48:37
<visitor9> static not updating
14:48:43
<StaceyM> Agree with LindaG
14:48:55
<7777> yeah, actually might have been not
14:48:59
<visitor9> oh there it is
14:49:02
<LindaG> Well it skipped 4 minutes
14:49:06
<visitor9> doesn't look like OF
14:49:11
<>Eric<> I think OF is over
14:49:15
<KB> It was either a large preplay or stuck
14:49:22
<visitor9> we should be able to tell
14:49:36
<JarnoO> with these temperatures you would've still seen steamy runoff regardless of short or long
14:49:48
<LindaG> It said 1442 and skipped to 14:46
14:49:50
<visitor9> if we go there
14:49:52
<>Eric<> OF started at 1444 I believe
14:50:24
<>Eric<> ohh, didn't realize that was an image from 1442
14:50:25
<7777> looks like a river in runoff
14:50:34
<visitor9> does it?
14:50:39
<>Eric<> Yep, post eruption
14:50:39
<visitor9> we need to be closer
14:50:59
<KB> I see frozen runoff
14:51:05
<visitor9> it's not steaming
14:51:13
<visitor9> I don't see runoff
14:51:30
<KB> when they zoomed in, I saw ice
14:51:42
<visitor9> me too, not steam
14:52:07
<visitor9> it will give cam op a good excuse to watch Grand instead of next one
14:52:08
<>Eric<> looks tired
14:52:17
<KB> if fluffy splashes then we will know it hasn't gone
14:52:19
<>Eric<> ohh, now happy
14:53:04
<KB> circle of doom again
14:54:31
<JarnoO> preplay
14:54:35
<JarnoO> didn't go yet
14:54:50
<JarnoO> 1442 must've been delay-inducing preplay
14:55:14
<KB> yay, splash
14:55:19
<KB> no fluffy yet
14:55:38
<KB> Good Old Faithful
14:55:46
<KB> now it is your turn
14:58:06
<JarnoO> Indicator: lead=12m57s, total=15m35s; Beehive: 4m35s
14:58:40
<JarnoO> typical duration for this lead time is ±4m45s - ±4m50s
14:59:09
<JarnoO> there's big boy Fluff
14:59:16
<KB> Old Faithful
14:59:32
<KB> tahdah
15:00:08
<7777> has anybody looked (it would be difficult I think) at whether BSB activity modifies that typical duration downward?
15:00:41
<JarnoO> maybe call Old Faithful Old Fateful when it possibly goes dormant in the mid-21st century
15:01:25
<Dave from B™> Did I miss anything?
15:01:35
<JarnoO> a swarm
15:01:52
<Dave from B™> earthquake swarm?:)
15:02:02
<JarnoO> bee swarm :)
15:02:24
<LindaG> Yay
15:03:05
<JarnoO> 7777, there hasn't been looked into as far as I know, mostly because BSB is a fairly new development and its eruptions are rare
15:12:02
<Dave from B™> That looks like A Hollywood Squares X
15:13:42
<Dave from B™> Or, is it a Family Feud X?
15:17:58
<Dave from B™> HAHA. jUST NOTICED jIMBO'S NAME
15:18:01
<Dave from B™> oops
15:26:15
<GO STEAMBOAT> why hasnt SB erupted yet?
15:26:28
<GO STEAMBOAT> nicewe have seismo back
15:26:45
<Dave from B™> this time tomorrow, Graham
15:27:26
<JarnoO> flower
15:27:36
<KorbenC> GO STEAMBOAT, because Dave is here
15:27:49
<GO STEAMBOAT> flowers for Dave
15:27:52
<Dave from B™> :P:P:P
15:28:26
<GO STEAMBOAT> it is Tuesday and a week since all the election stuff was over
15:28:53
<Dave from B™> GS, you forgot to tell the dictator that it is over
15:29:07
<KorbenC> haha
15:29:11
<Dave from B™> NO ONE SHOULD BE AFRAID OF THEIR BOSS
15:29:28
<KorbenC> Good thing that we are not actually a Democracy :)
15:29:29
<Dave from B™> That's asinine in this day and age
15:30:26
<>Eric<> We are a democracy
15:30:40
<KorbenC> >Eric<, republic
15:30:47
<>Eric<> A representative democracy my friend.
15:30:54
<KorbenC> either federal republic, or constitutional republic
15:30:58
<>Eric<> look up what a republic is :-D
15:31:20
<KorbenC> Well, we are not a republic
15:31:24
<>Eric<> which is a form of representative democracy.
15:31:26
<KorbenC> we are not a democracy either
15:31:36
<KorbenC> But we are not trule a democracy
15:31:38
<>Eric<> do you vote?
15:31:43
<KorbenC> yes
15:31:52
<>Eric<> well, you don't obviously :-D
15:31:57
<KorbenC> because the rules that the "republic" sets.
15:32:12
<GO STEAMBOAT> we dont have equal representation
15:32:23
<KorbenC> I will say though, the founding fathers made a clear point for us not to be a true democracy, thanks to Plato!
15:32:42
<GO STEAMBOAT> those WY'ites get way more power than they deserve
15:33:00
<>Eric<> Do we in a democratic way vote for our representatives Coop?
15:33:00
<KorbenC> "Democracy leads to anarchy, which is mob rule." -Plato.
15:33:11
<KorbenC> We vote in a democratic way yes.
15:33:16
<KorbenC> But we are not a true democracy.
15:33:38
<>Eric<> It's called a representative democracy...again read about it.
15:33:42
<KorbenC> "Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law notes that the United States exemplifies the varied nature of a constitutional republic."
15:33:49
<GO STEAMBOAT> of course most states have less voters than the winning margin in CA
15:33:59
<>Eric<> We have social security...are we socialists? No.
15:34:07
<KorbenC> So you are agreeing with me, not a true democracy. We have democratic rules that deal with how we do things, but not truly a democracy.
15:34:14
<>Eric<> We have socialist police, fire, military, ....
15:34:35
<>Eric<> Yes and it has a name
15:34:44
<KorbenC> but we are nopt a democracy :P
15:35:38
<GO STEAMBOAT> we should try single transferrable votes
15:35:50
<>Eric<> We are a democracy
15:35:54
<Dave from B™> I support the electoral college or some adjustment to it. I don't CA to have to much influence...or any other heavily one sided state...that's why popular vote should never be used.
15:35:59
<GO STEAMBOAT> where yu can vote for center candidates without feeling like its pointless
15:36:00
<KorbenC> I am going to listen to UCLA School of Law.
15:36:09
<KorbenC> And the UCLA School of Law says we are not a democracy.
15:36:22
<>Eric<> "Calling a banana a fruit, doesn't make it any less of a banana" - Eric 2020
15:36:33
<GO STEAMBOAT> but popular vote would even it out
15:36:46
<KorbenC> >Eric<, I am not saying that :P
15:36:52
<>Eric<> You are
15:36:58
<KorbenC> Thats what you are saying Eric
15:37:00
<GO STEAMBOAT> are we a banana republic?
15:37:14
<>Eric<> you are saying that because we are a certain type of democracy, we are not a democracy.
15:37:30
<GO STEAMBOAT> what about liberal and socialist democrats?
15:37:32
<>Eric<> We are a democracy, specifically a representative type.
15:37:51
<>Eric<> Calling us not a democracy is dumb.
15:37:54
<KorbenC> We are NOT a democracy, we are a CONSTITUITIONAL REPUBLIC (according to Harvard Law, and UCLA) which might be based off of a democracy, but not democracy.
15:38:42
<>Eric<> democracy covers a broad group of governances, you are using the term poorly.
15:38:43
<GO STEAMBOAT> dont make me bring out my google law degree :)
15:39:00
<KorbenC> Eric, calling us a democracy is dumb :P
15:39:08
<>Eric<> You could say we are not a plutonian democracy.
15:39:12
<>Eric<> that is fine
15:39:37
<GO STEAMBOAT> we are not a democratic monarchy tho
15:39:38
<Dave from B™> Pluto is NOT a planet:)
15:40:05
<>Eric<> We will leave that to the queen :-D
15:40:54
<KorbenC> OK well, I don't need to argue. I am going to listen to papers from UCLA, and Harvard saying we are not a true democracy, and the head of USAFA (whos kid and I are very good friends) before I listen to that one dude named Eric, "La Fin." :)
15:41:07
<GO STEAMBOAT> no nationally elected politicians in UK
15:41:26
<>Eric<> Let us base our definitions, I am using the Oxford Dictionary definition of democracy - "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."
15:41:54
<>Eric<> or more generically even from Oxford - "control of an organization or group by the majority of its members."
15:42:13
<Michael> Of course those two definitions can be at odds with each other...
15:42:29
<>Eric<> Webster dicitonary - "a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections 2"
15:43:13
<>Eric<> Exactly michael, the word democracy is a very loose term more or less basing the power of the organization in the members.
15:43:19
<KorbenC> >Eric<, last thing since I am going to just leave you to rant your absurdities, "The US is a constitutional republic." -Oxford Dictionary.
15:43:20
<GO STEAMBOAT> didnt i hear someone say "its nt the the media that decides elections, its the courts" - who needs votors
15:43:44
<>Eric<> Under what word Coop?
15:43:52
<>Eric<> United States?
15:44:48
<flake> maybe we should vote on it
15:45:14
<GO STEAMBOAT> i have my legal case ready
15:45:18
<>Eric<> haha, we wouldn't want to be a democratic about it :-P
15:45:32
<flake> The United States of America is a democracy. Aye = :thumbsup: Nay = :thumbsdown:
15:46:14
<Betty> would be very poor if US wasn´t a democracy
15:46:29
<JarnoO> I'm all good here with my constitutional monarchy. Don't mind me :P
15:46:34
<LindaG> We just voted right? What has come of it?
15:46:34
<flake> it depends on what your definition of "is" is
15:48:45
<Betty> we are a Federal Republic, and we sure are a democracy in Germany
15:49:10
<Dave from B™> LG, we are waiting for someone to concede who doesn't have it in him. He's not enough of a man.
15:50:18
<LindaG> Oh I know, that's one man, what about the rest of them?
15:50:28
<Dave from B™> Meanwhile, I see MT loonies driving pickups with a US flag tied to the back and Trump stickers everywhere
15:50:33
<Greg> Howdy everyone, Bee she was nice to see, along with the snow
15:50:45
<LindaG> Greg, hi
15:50:50
<>Eric<> Hi Greg
15:50:55
<JarnoO> afternoon Greg
15:51:00
<>Eric<> Welcome to the banana republic of geyser chat
15:51:06
<KorbenC> Hi Greg
15:51:18
<Greg> Hi all, :)
15:51:22
<KorbenC> I hope we have moved onto another topic, or I am going to need a few more cups of coffee.
15:51:33
<LindaG> I'm going to go surf Facebook before I say more.
15:51:41
<>Eric<> You just need to gain a few more years of sense and all will be good :-D
15:51:43
<Dave from B™> KORBEN, you are way too young for coffee
15:51:58
<GO STEAMBOAT> how come you MT voters stuffed the ballots with Trump votes
15:51:58
<KorbenC> #1, I only do decaf coffee :)
15:52:01
<Greg> I was typing the same thing, too young for coffee
15:52:15
<Dave from B™> haha
15:52:24
<>Eric<> Just stay away from energy drinks!
15:52:33
<>Eric<> coffee is at least just a bean from a plant
15:52:42
<KorbenC> #2) I will drink as much coffee as I want :p
15:52:51
<>Eric<> decaf they use all kinds of nasty chemicals to make it that way.
15:53:00
<GO STEAMBOAT> funny that in VA they called the racefor Bden when Trump had 57% of the count. Republicans didnt like that
15:53:03
<Dave from B™> GS, too many people got upset at the great job our Dem Gov Bullock did in trying to contain the virus and far right got upset that their rights were taken away
15:53:23
<GO STEAMBOAT> Trump endedup with 44
15:53:50
<GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, your numbers have not been good
15:54:09
<KorbenC> >Eric<, they use nasty chemicals are in most things now adays :P
15:54:12
<Dave from B™> The opposite of what happenede in PA, GA occurred in MT. Since mail in ballots were counted first Dems lead early and lost all races by the end
15:54:30
<Betty> hi Graham and Greg
15:55:10
<GO STEAMBOAT> in VA it is usually the big Northern VA blue counties that come in last
15:55:12
<>Eric<> Not regular coffee!
15:55:17
<GO STEAMBOAT> hiBetty
15:55:30
<>Eric<> Coffee gets roasted and then you pour water over it and drink it.
15:56:02
<GO STEAMBOAT> oh well .... i hear hotels are booking up here for Inauguration week
15:56:11
<GO STEAMBOAT> not sure how that will end up being planned out
15:56:18
<>Eric<> It was a fine race, I still think trump's 70 million votes need to be respected and understood.
15:56:28
<GO STEAMBOAT> i am guessing bookings at Trump DC Hotel are down?
15:56:33
<>Eric<> But the winner is pretty obvious, time to move on.
15:56:55
<Dave from B™> Eric, I agree and I think he comes down that Trump represents someone who is not from the political establishment...except they forgot one thing
15:56:59
<GO STEAMBOAT> haha .. Trump was the biggest loser .....
15:57:29
<>Eric<> I don't disagree, but there is a reason 70 million people voted for him.
15:57:32
<Dave from B™> They needed to find someone outside the political system who could respect others
15:57:36
<>Eric<> and not the other guy
15:57:42
<GO STEAMBOAT> or as he would say, the largest vote for a sitting president
15:58:09
<Dave from B™> The only presidential candidiate to lose the popular vote TWICE
15:58:38
<>Eric<> largest president for a sitting vote?
15:59:19
<>Eric<> But did he have the smallest hands of any president?
15:59:33
<Dave from B™> AND, NO DOG!
15:59:37
<>Eric<> Important trivia
15:59:44
<>Eric<> wow...no dog!
16:00:03
<GO STEAMBOAT> true, that was his downfall
16:00:19
<Dave from B™> And, now Joe';s dog is from the shelter
16:00:26
<Michael> Unrelated question: When did the GT Grand window get adjusted to 6h45m +/-?
16:00:30
<GO STEAMBOAT> everyone assumed he would get a dog nce he got into office
16:00:37
<>Eric<> Doesn't he know that having a dog extends your life by like 8 years!
16:00:49
<Dave from B™> Michael, Jarno know the answer!!
16:00:51
<>Eric<> Jarno adjust it about a week ago
16:01:06
<>Eric<> Do you approve Michael?
16:01:31
<KorbenC> Jarno can adjust GT intervals now!
16:01:39
<Michael> Definitely fits current activity better than 5h55m.
16:01:45
<JarnoO> indeed, Korben
16:01:47
<>Eric<> Jarno pushed for it and nobody disagreed.
16:01:48
<Dave from B™> Who elected Jarno?:D
16:01:56
<KorbenC> about time Jarno got that power :P
16:02:30
<Michael> It's a dangerous power. I think I once encouraged a shift in the Daisy window and it immediately turned out to be a bad idea.
16:02:32
<GO STEAMBOAT> constitutional monarchy trumps a democratic rupublic?
16:02:33
<Betty> Jarno for president.... ehm King
16:02:35
<>Eric<> If people have better evidence GT is always listening.
16:03:07
<KorbenC> I would vote for Jarno to be king :P
16:03:09
<Dave from B™> I like windows that are adjusted more often to reflect current activity
16:03:13
<Greg> Let me know when the camp controls have been released
16:03:16
<Michael> Based on the countries called "Democratic Republic of...", every other form of government is better.
16:03:27
<GO STEAMBOAT> and he has two capital cities too, right?
16:03:32
<Dave from B™> I would assume we chased Kevin away with political talk
16:03:49
<KorbenC> Greg, here are the camp controls, https://www.google.com/search?q=camp+site&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiMiq_-ivnsAhXSJc0KHcnRDGoQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=camp+site&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAA6BAgjECc6BAgAEEM6BwgAELEDEEM6BQgAELEDUNQrWMo3YMo4aABwAHgAgAFRiAHhBJIBATmYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=PxyrX8zuLdLLtAbJo7PQBg&bih=825&biw=1527#imgrc=w3Uof_2iTfdaXM :P
16:03:59
<JarnoO> depends on how it's done, Graham. However, I do think a monarch can provide some kind of stability in tough times or when there's a shift of government
16:03:59
<>Eric<> Sorry Kevin :-(
16:04:25
<KorbenC> >Eric<, what happened to Kevin?
16:04:28
<Greg> Got em
16:04:29
<>Eric<> coyote at cabins
16:04:38
<>Eric<> or some smaller animal
16:04:41
<>Eric<> can we zoom?
16:04:44
<>Eric<> .
16:04:44
<>Eric<> .
16:04:45
<>Eric<> .
16:04:52
<>Eric<> right in front of 200
16:04:57
<KorbenC> camp controler says....
16:05:04
<KorbenC> yes
16:05:04
<>Eric<> wow
16:05:22
<>Eric<> or is that a rock :-P
16:05:24
<JarnoO> though for 10 years now we've had the same prime minister and it looks like there's at least 4 more years to come
16:05:28
<>Eric<> thought it moved
16:05:46
<>Eric<> ohh, my bad camop
16:06:06
<Betty> you mean that elephant stone?
16:06:10
<>Eric<> thanks for checking it out though, must have been pixel fuzzing I saw move
16:06:19
<GO STEAMBOAT> we need to do away with this fixed election cycle too, let house and senate call elections whe they want
16:06:19
<Greg> :thumbsup:
16:06:19
<>Eric<> That rock in front of cabin 200
16:06:45
<GO STEAMBOAT> then have 6 weeks to finish the election
16:06:50
<>Eric<> anway, nice winter view of cabins, thanks camop
16:06:53
<Betty> yes, the dancing elephant
16:07:00
<GO STEAMBOAT> and immediate transfer of power
16:07:12
<GO STEAMBOAT> none of this waiting 70 days
16:08:04
<>Eric<> I am ok with our election process, would just like a little more truth in what they say. Should be illegal for politicians to lie, just like it is for advertisers.
16:08:23
<>Eric<> There has to be teeth in that too.
16:08:34
<KorbenC> grand
16:08:41
<>Eric<> If you make a claim and cannot back it up, fine, jail, .... something
16:08:48
<>Eric<> Nice
16:09:08
<GO STEAMBOAT> yeah, the lies have been bad ... maybe it will be better going forward?
16:09:16
<>Eric<> boiled in a thermal hotspring in Bechler :-P
16:09:18
<Dave from B™> All states should count their mail in votes BEFORE election day and report them AFTER the polls close in that state
16:09:24
<ChrisO> if that was the case half the politicians would be in jail..but wait...there special and dont have to serve time for there crimes.
16:09:46
<>Eric<> That one will be tough Dave. Each state has to make it's own voting rules.
16:10:35
<GO STEAMBOAT> i wonde if repubs in PA will change their rles now
16:11:23
<GO STEAMBOAT> I think its fine to prep the mail-in ballots even if you ont count them ahead of time. its the prep that takes the most time
16:11:26
<Michael> Which reminds me. It will be interesting to see how our attempt at a bipartisan redisticting commission works.
16:11:28
<Dave from B™> The Philly Mayor and his big boy pants comment has to be the quote of this election cycle
16:11:47
<>Eric<> This has been gaining a lot traction, if 270 EC worth of states adopt laws that support it, then it will be how it is - https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
16:12:35
<>Eric<> Interesting park is that it doesn't even take all the states.
16:12:46
<>Eric<> part
16:13:34
<JarnoO> had hoped the cam was on Grand earlier, but alas
16:13:53
<Dave from B™> I still don't like states like CA over influencing the election
16:14:12
<Greg> Me too, but had to look for dog
16:14:16
<Greg> haha
16:14:22
<>Eric<> You mean you don't like having a 1-1 vote because those people are different than you?
16:14:39
<Betty> OT ie
16:14:45
<Dave from B™> I would listen to adjusting electoral votes for a state based on how much of the vote a candidate recieved
16:15:04
<Dave from B™> No, because it gives UNFAIR representation to other states!
16:15:28
<JarnoO> well, you can't help that some states are more or less populated than others
16:15:44
<Dave from B™> That is why we have 50 states and not JUST 1.
16:15:49
<GO STEAMBOAT> OT
16:15:56
<>Eric<> unfair representation to other people? The only people not being represented fairly are the ones in california :-P
16:16:13
<>Eric<> People in MT are getting OVER represented.
16:16:47
<>Eric<> Yes, but people move and flow in our country WAY more than when we were founded.
16:16:59
<Dave from B™> Nope. We are 1 of 50 states NOT 1 million of 350 million people
16:17:24
<Dave from B™> Same for Wyoming, ND, SD, RI.....
16:17:41
<>Eric<> and you can set governance in your state because of that. But things that affect everyone in the country, should be controlled equally, by EVERYONE in the country.
16:18:11
<GO STEAMBOAT> doesnt make sense to have state differences when electing soeone nationwide
16:18:17
<>Eric<> exactly
16:18:25
<>Eric<> That is a holdover to slavery
16:19:09
<GO STEAMBOAT> Senate i the worst for misrepresentaton
16:19:19
<>Eric<> The EC was created to give slave owners a bigger voice.
16:20:24
<GO STEAMBOAT> we shuld have King JArnoO appoint the Senate
16:20:31
<Dave from B™> We can agree to disagree. I will never support a popular vote
16:20:34
<>Eric<> By design GS
16:21:24
<>Eric<> You can disagree on not wanting it, but not the reason that it exists.
16:21:53
<ChrisO> you got fraud with the EC, your gonna have fraud with a PV as well
16:22:49
<GO STEAMBOAT> nationwide recount would get mesy too :)
16:23:02
<>Eric<> There is so little fraud, it's too complex and a pain to make happen. Just look at the current administrations own teams, they agree.
16:23:49
<>Eric<> Right, but that is the great thing about the popular vote system I referenced. Nothing really changes other than an agree and state laws.
16:24:34
<>Eric<> I really only affects the presidential election, but I agree with you graham, representation is poorly skewed in the US
16:24:49
<>Eric<> It
16:25:18
<GO STEAMBOAT> wejust need 5M californians to move into MT, right Dave?
16:25:32
<>Eric<> or georgia ;-)
16:25:48
<>Eric<> Almost convinced my parents to go winter down in georgia
16:25:56
<GO STEAMBOAT> and increase the Advocado Toast crowd in WY
16:26:01
<>Eric<> get registered to vote.
16:26:25
<GO STEAMBOAT> where are they now Eric?
16:26:30
<>Eric<> Oregon
16:26:50
<GO STEAMBOAT> oh, haha long trip
16:27:41
<>Eric<> Enjoy some georgian hospitality and get out the vote for ossoff
16:27:59
<>Eric<> I really enjoy listening to that guy
16:28:00
<GO STEAMBOAT> hum, just thought ... i bet the canadian snowbirds are upset this winter ... they cant drive to FL
16:30:23
<GO STEAMBOAT> of course we know the cacadian geyser gazers didnt come
16:31:40
<Dave from B™> haha Graham
16:32:36
<Dave from B™> Here's some trivia for you....of the 6 house on my street, we are the only native Montanans in the bunch
16:33:36
<GO STEAMBOAT> i didnt know you were from te Res Dave
16:34:06
<ChrisO> I guess the benefit of all this is that there will be room in the lodge when gas prices skyrocket to above what people are willing to pay
16:34:09
<Betty> SC?
16:34:45
<GO STEAMBOAT> wont they have to run electric cables so we can recharge?
16:35:06
<Dave from B™> Gas prices aren't going to skyrocket
16:35:28
<Dave from B™> I am excited to try out the ghost driver bus in Canyon this summer
16:36:05
<Dave from B™> I'd me more worried about the continuing double digit rate increase by Xanterra
16:36:20
<ChrisO> but don't that have to rebuild the entire electric grid first?
16:36:28
<GO STEAMBOAT> i wonder what will happen next year
16:36:32
<Dave from B™> And, wait until they tear down OFL cabins and replace them with $300 a night rooms
16:37:50
<GO STEAMBOAT> i dont know what the power supply situation is in YNP - you ave to figure like everything it isnt great
16:38:03
<ChrisO> Well if they are gonna do that they need the money to build them, so they up the entry fee to get into the park and every other park to $300
16:38:50
<GO STEAMBOAT> haha, that won't happen now, although Disney gets away with those prices
16:39:18
<GO STEAMBOAT> bom
16:39:25
<GO STEAMBOAT> or boom
16:39:44
<ChrisO> hi Fluffy :)
16:39:46
<GO STEAMBOAT> i hope my taxes go up so i an ern $400k
16:39:50
<>Eric<> I am thinking small nuclear reactor at OF :-P
16:40:12
<ChrisO> no they wanna do away with fission, gotta wait for them to get a working fusion reactor
16:40:34
<>Eric<> salt reactors are the bomb...no pun intended.
16:40:39
<ChrisO> still another 50 years down the road
16:40:52
<>Eric<> Salt reactors were invented 50 years ago :-P
16:41:21
<>Eric<> we already are 50 years down the road and many startups are working on small scale version with billions of dollars of investment.
16:41:49
<Dave from B™> I bet 30% of the rooms in the park are already above $200 a night
16:42:15
<GO STEAMBOAT> more than that think Days
16:42:15
<ChrisO> i wouldn't know..they are always full by the time i look
16:42:20
<>Eric<> We just need minimum wage up to $60/hour and that won't be an issue Dave :-D
16:42:41
<>Eric<> 4h work for a night at OF seems reasonable.
16:42:51
<Dave from B™> Not going to happen. That won't get jobs back to US from overseas
16:42:57
<GO STEAMBOAT> will he campgrounds in West be under $100?
16:43:26
<>Eric<> Ahh, it doesn't really matter Quantitative easing my friend!
16:44:46
<>Eric<> The problem is foreign tourists aren't tied to our dollar, so they will always be able to pay more.
16:45:20
<ChrisO> thought Joe was gonna lock it down again anyway
16:45:38
<ChrisO> that snow is pretty :)
16:45:46
<>Eric<> haha, democrats and republicans now all suck at finances.
16:45:47
<Dave from B™> Nobody is locking down the economy
16:46:25
<>Eric<> I think President Biden will provide a cohesive plan for helping less people die.
16:46:40
<>Eric<> He knows you can't just shut everything down.
16:46:55
<>Eric<> But you can make good protective decisions about when you are out and about.
16:47:01
<Dave from B™> Yep. masks and at home tests are a couple of his points
16:47:23
<Dave from B™> Testing now is awful. 30% false negatives is bad
16:47:40
<GO STEAMBOAT> freign exchnge rates change too, so not a one way streak
16:47:44
<>Eric<> Well, that is for the rapid test, if you get a negative..get a second slow test.
16:48:31
<>Eric<> 100% though on the positive side I believe
16:48:38
<>Eric<> no false positives
16:48:46
<Dave from B™> correct
16:49:20
<>Eric<> Couple dates to note on moving the election process forward - Nothing has happened to derail state certifications by 12/8. Nothing has happened to derail the Electoral College vote on 12/14.
16:49:24
<Dave from B™> It took my son 13 days to get his test results back
16:49:34
<>Eric<> Wow...that is horrible Dave
16:49:53
<>Eric<> Definitely points to better social medicine :-D
16:50:28
<>Eric<> We really should have had the testing sorted in March.
16:50:33
<Dave from B™> It is hard when a system gets inundated with tests
16:50:59
<>Eric<> Not really...our UW lab in washington has been under utilized the entire time, since January!
16:51:12
<>Eric<> It's poor centralized guidance and management.
16:51:53
<>Eric<> They could process 10k tests a day starting in January and nobody was using them.
16:52:20
<>Eric<> Our hospitals are all pretty greedy and want the bottom $$
16:52:50
<>Eric<> One of the problems with allow hospitals to be for profit in the 80s I bleieve
16:52:52
<>Eric<> believe
16:57:28
<Dave from B™> Time for me to head out. One more thing. Our family sat down after Sunday dinner (6 of us) and talked politics (4 Dems 2 Repubs). I feel it is important to talk about differences. If you can get past the rhetoric, it is fairly easy to have a civil conversation. It will be a night I will always remember. Have a great evening everyone!
16:59:47
<JarnoO> cya Dave
16:59:48
<>Eric<> Night Dave, it is important!
17:00:08
<>Eric<> and you should never say Never :-P
17:00:09
<Betty> night Dave. It is so important to be able to have a good discussion.
17:01:26
<Betty> I´m out too, enjoy your evening all
17:01:34
<JarnoO> cya Betty
17:01:50
<Dave from B™> haha. Good night...Hopefully someone puts their big boy pants on soon.
17:03:55
<>Eric<> Hopefully
17:19:16
<𝔸𝕒𝕣> 😀
17:23:31
<KorbenC> Hi Aaron!
17:23:54
<KorbenC> Phew, just popped on my ski boots, and skis, considering going in the afternoon for opening day tommorow!
17:24:10
<Greg> :thumbsup:
17:24:31
<Forestbewithyou> Enjoy Korben!
17:24:41
<GO STEAMBOAT> opening day where?
17:25:45
<KorbenC> GO STEAMBOAT, loveland ski area
17:25:57
<KorbenC> Uncrowded resort, usually 1st to open, 3rd this year.
17:26:07
<Katie> Peeping tom driving? :D
17:26:20
<Greg> haha
17:26:32
<KorbenC> and its got ALOT of blacks and double blacks, so good for me, even though they only have 3 runs opening tommorow
17:27:16
<Greg> Are ya dizzy?
17:27:25
<>Eric<> Yes
17:29:21
<GO STEAMBOAT> nice. i bet it will be quite busy tho?
17:29:38
<KorbenC> GO STEAMBOAT, probably
17:29:56
<KorbenC> we arent leaving until like 10AM, get up there at noon, past opening days have taught me that people clear out by noon usually
17:30:15
<darkness falls> they might fill before you even get there
17:30:25
<Greg> but remember this is 2020
17:30:27
<darkness falls> 3 runs, I am sure they are limiting the crowd with COVID
17:30:33
<KorbenC> darkness falls, no
17:30:41
<KorbenC> Are you a coloradan?
17:30:45
<darkness falls> no limits?
17:30:53
<darkness falls> vail is having limits
17:31:03
<KorbenC> or should I say, do you live in CO?
17:31:17
<KorbenC> Vail is Vail! They HAVE to have limits, Icon pass holders anyways.
17:31:26
<JarnoO> Atlantic 20/80 (1) and Eastern Pacific 0/20 (1)
17:31:50
<darkness falls> are your skis waxed?
17:31:53
<KorbenC> JarnoO, didnt I say that we would see one pop up soon?
17:31:58
<JarnoO> :)
17:31:58
<KorbenC> darkness falls, why? :P
17:32:14
<darkness falls> just a thought
17:32:34
<darkness falls> what about school? Is skiing school?
17:32:41
<KorbenC> I am just wondering, are you a skiier or not? :P
17:32:51
<KorbenC> darkness falls, no school tommorow
17:33:03
<KorbenC> Dad has work off, and I dont have school, its a "work day"
17:33:06
<darkness falls> mystery is good for young people
17:33:38
<KorbenC> I am wondering, because I dont want to try explaining skiing to a non skier, it geys complicated sometimes :)
17:34:21
<darkness falls> a full parking lot is a full parking lot
17:34:29
<KorbenC> darkness falls, well...
17:34:38
<darkness falls> mr double black diamond
17:35:00
<KorbenC> The parking lot isnt the issue in this case.
17:35:16
<KorbenC> The parking lot hasnt filled up past 6 opening days that I have attended.
17:35:31
<KorbenC> also, they have an extra parking lot.
17:36:21
<KorbenC> I do love my double blacks
17:37:53
<darkness falls> is it 2 hours one way to get there?
17:38:06
<JarnoO> off for the day. Good luck with the nightshift
17:38:21
<Greg> Night JarnoO
17:38:23
<KorbenC> Bye Jarno
17:38:30
<>Eric<> night Jarno
17:38:41
<KorbenC> darkness falls, ish, +/- about an hour
17:39:10
<KorbenC> OK, ive gotten there in 65 minutes with them going the speed limit, its also taken 6 hours :)
17:39:54
<Greg> Darkness is over taking that magical place called Yellowstone
17:40:03
<darkness falls> they have zilch on their website about COVID, that is alarming
17:40:10
<darkness falls> have fun
17:40:11
<Greg> Watching the snow fall is so relaxing.
17:40:29
<Greg> Controls have been released, thanks for tagging along everyone.
17:40:40
<darkness falls> if you do not have to shovel it
17:40:45
<KorbenC> darkness falls, incorrect
17:40:52
<darkness falls> link?
17:40:58
<KorbenC> I am looking at a full thing about COVID
17:41:08
<Greg> haha, I knew you would comment on that Korben
17:41:26
<KorbenC> Greg, have a good evning! Many thanks for triving.
17:41:40
<KorbenC> DF (darkness falls) Mystery is good :)
17:41:52
<Greg> My pleasure, have fun skiing
17:42:10
<Greg> Night all
17:42:13
<Forestbewithyou> Thanks Greg!
17:42:17
<KorbenC> Greg, night
17:42:22
<Forestbewithyou> night Greg
17:42:41
<>Eric<> Night Greg
17:42:55
<KorbenC> darkness falls, fine, https://skiloveland.com/coronavirusupdate/?_ga=2.107701120.348397945.1602077579-831695799.1602077579
17:42:55
<darkness falls> oh well if you have to buy your ticket before you get there, you are ensured being able to ski at noon
17:43:01
<darkness falls> I found it
17:43:18
<KorbenC> darkness falls, season passes vs. tickets, different things.
17:43:56
<KorbenC> and no, if I buy my pass when I get there (which you can still do) I am still ensured to be able to access the lifts unless the entire ski area is closed
17:45:46
<darkness falls> it says:Lift tickets will need to be purchased in advance, online. Lift tickets will not be sold at the window the day of.
17:46:04
<KorbenC> darkness falls, incorrect.
17:46:11
<KorbenC> or at least, does not apply to me
17:46:12
<darkness falls> well I just got that from THEIR site
17:46:48
<KorbenC> darkness falls, I get a SEASON PASS
17:47:02
<KorbenC> :P
17:48:01
<darkness falls> of course you do
17:48:16
<KorbenC> click on season passes & ticket offices
17:48:27
<KorbenC> darkness falls, lol, I have for 6 years :)
17:49:13
<darkness falls> I'm sure you have
17:49:29
<darkness falls> anyway, keep your gloves on
17:49:38
<darkness falls> it's their policy :)
17:49:46
<KorbenC> I know that resort well enough that I know the exact # of chairs on every lift, and every run name location, and have skied every run there.
17:49:59
<KorbenC> Only of lifts and mazes, might take them off for the run itself
17:50:22
<KorbenC> although I wont need to, high of 13 (meaning probably high of 21) will make me want to keep some gloves on
17:53:12
<KorbenC> Hello Linda
17:53:21
<LindaG> KorbenC, jello
17:53:29
<KorbenC> jellome
17:53:30
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Linda
17:53:37
<LindaG> Forestbewithyou, hi
18:05:37
<KorbenC> Night all
18:05:56
<Forestbewithyou> Bye Korben
18:19:40
<Forestbewithyou> I am out too night all