Showing logs for date: 2021-01-03
06:33:35 <Betty> oh, wow, a sneaky Steamboat. Weird
06:57:53 <GO BOATY McBOAT> afternoon Betty
06:58:02 <GO BOATY McBOAT> good thing it erupted and someone saw it
06:58:24 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i guess we would get guide reports today tho too if those lucky people hadnt been thee so late
06:58:37 <Betty> morning Graham
06:58:48 <GO BOATY McBOAT> it must have been getting dark
06:59:29 <GO BOATY McBOAT> might just be steaming when the guides get there today
06:59:38 <Betty> yeah
07:01:31 <GO BOATY McBOAT> 129 in series, 97 in 2 years, 49 in 1 year and 1 year to date :)
07:01:56 <GO BOATY McBOAT> 1 ahead of last years pace at this point :)
07:02:33 <Betty> 129 in series, isn´t that amazing?
07:03:09 <Betty> I´m so glad I saw 1 1/2 of those
07:03:15 <GO BOATY McBOAT> the two Jan intervals last year were the13d22h ones
07:04:05 <Betty> so SB is a child of Kevin and does not like cold/snow/winter
07:04:32 <GO BOATY McBOAT> yeah, i dreamed of seeing it start each year as i sat and watched the splashing. 2014 when we got there in early steam phase was great. never tought I would get to see a start
07:04:56 <Betty> same here
07:05:01 <GO BOATY McBOAT> looks like that, although it does like to erupt in crappy summer weather too
07:06:33 <GO BOATY McBOAT> have to start doing the 3 year data in march :)
07:07:11 <GO BOATY McBOAT> odd that it didnt show up on the Tantalus Creek data
07:08:05 <Betty> I wathed a video capture of Thomas and me from our first trip ever to Norris in 2007. We stood at the sign, reading "intervals from 4 days to 50 years" and said: wow, who will ever see this thing? we will never. we stayed 5 min, said, hopp-go now! ...and left ;-)
07:09:05 <GO BOATY McBOAT> haha, hopefully you will be able to come back and see it again
07:09:52 <GO BOATY McBOAT> hard to know how long this will keep going, but it's fun while its going on
07:10:20 <Betty> yes. If we are allowed to travel again, my first way will be to a travel agency and book the trip
07:12:18 <ynpvisitor8> either the vaccine will begin the end of this, or new strains will begin the end of humans.... good morning
07:13:08 <Betty> howdy CraigC, I go with the vaccine :-)
07:13:20 <CraigC> Betty, howdy.... I hope so, too
07:13:36 <CraigC> either way, I plan to play
07:14:17 <Betty> whatever happens...be sure, cochroaches will ever survive
07:18:26 <GO BOATY McBOAT> morning Craig.
07:18:36 <GO BOATY McBOAT> have they started to distribute vaccines Betty?
07:18:58 <Betty> yes, last year already
07:19:20 <CraigC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, hey Graham
07:19:21 <GO BOATY McBOAT> tats good, i hope it goes smoothly
07:19:44 <Betty> yes, so do I
07:20:33 <GO BOATY McBOAT> it seems to be disorganized here for delivery to patients arms, not too surprising since we dont have a national health system, its all tribal
07:20:41 <CraigC> I'd be surprised if I haven't already been exposed to it. People in my neighborhood have had it, one died. My daughter and her b/f are out and about all the time.
07:20:52 <GO BOATY McBOAT> oops ... is that an insensitive comment?
07:22:05 <GO BOATY McBOAT> yeah, during your time in Yellowstone you were likely exposed too but if you took protective measures you got through the year ok
07:22:28 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i get nervous when there are unmasked people close by in busy places, shows they are not taking it seriusly
07:22:48 <GO BOATY McBOAT> at Great Falls yesterday there were some busy overlooks and most people had facemasks on but not all
07:23:39 <Betty> my eldest brothers family had it, and all came out well
07:24:02 <CraigC> my sister's family all got it
07:24:32 <GO BOATY McBOAT> once its in a house it spreads so easily
07:24:39 <Betty> they say here, you shall get the vaccine even if you made it through the infection
07:24:48 <GO BOATY McBOAT> well thats why the nursng homes were hit so badly
07:25:05 <Betty> yeah
07:25:33 <Betty> that´s the reason why we do those homes first
07:27:34 <GO BOATY McBOAT> are you waiting for the weather to warm up before your next trip Craig?
07:29:15 <Betty> btw, did Dave´s wife take driving lessons by you, Craig? She hit the garage door ;-)
07:36:02 <GO BOATY McBOAT> here comes the light
07:36:38 <CraigC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, yes.... it is still below freezing in Moab, and they got blanketed with a good coat of snow. We are supposed to get snow tomorrow
07:36:51 <CraigC> Betty, OMH.....lol.... but sorry to hear
07:37:37 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i bet its pretty down there .... but too much mess to bike safey
07:39:54 <CraigC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, and I found out it is too hard on my battery system to camp without hookups in really cold tems
07:39:57 <CraigC> temps
07:40:11 <Betty> Craig, you live in Moab or are you there with the RV?
07:40:53 <GO BOATY McBOAT> yeah, do hey have hookups there or too expensive?
07:45:35 <CraigC> I am 4 hours north of Moab. They have RV sites, but I want to save money whenever I can so I can afford to stay as much as possible in Yellowstone
07:46:05 <Betty> ah, cool
07:46:55 <CraigC> money is really tight now that I am single again
07:47:11 <CraigC> lots of prioritizing
07:50:44 <GO BOATY McBOAT> of
07:51:44 <GO BOATY McBOAT> COVIG has helped in reducing some expenses probably, it has for me
07:53:02 <GO BOATY McBOAT> less restaurant, opera, and travel costs for me
07:53:16 <CraigC> the more I sit at home, the more I look at stuff I want on Amazon ;)
07:54:21 <GO BOATY McBOAT> haha, i dont do that, getting rid of stuff as fast as i can now
07:55:53 <GO BOATY McBOAT> good to hear that SB popped up, even though it was hiding from the sensors
07:56:46 <GO BOATY McBOAT> weird that the creek didnt show a jump
07:58:22 <CraigC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, do you think it could have enough snow buildup to absorb all the heat by the time it reaches the sensor?
07:59:16 <GO BOATY McBOAT> usually the flow picks up though, that measure is the one thats usually accurate even if it rains
07:59:38 <GO BOATY McBOAT> temp doesnt always go up
08:00:02 <GO BOATY McBOAT> flow is the second plot on this page layout
08:00:14 <GO BOATY McBOAT> usually it spikes up vertically
08:01:18 <GO BOATY McBOAT> Mara noted thats been seen before but not often. curious if its a wind direction, maybe strongly blowing over the parking lot to dispurse the water?
08:01:47 <CraigC> interesting
08:01:51 <GO BOATY McBOAT> or blowing all over the place so its dispursed into the snow and ice banks
08:02:53 <GO BOATY McBOAT> maybe Micah can help t get info from the guides. if it was really wndy i would have thought they would have been on their way he at 1700 tho, still quite a trip to Mammoth
08:03:57 <GO BOATY McBOAT> and windy and dark wouldnt be fun over swan lake flats
08:04:49 <GO BOATY McBOAT> maybe the guides pics will get posted too
08:07:32 <GO BOATY McBOAT> morning KC
08:08:29 <KorbenC> As to yesterdays Steamboat, no Tantalus response, YNR response on waveform is none, I see something on spectrogram, but not anything that would make me think SB, I am skeptical and want to see photos :P
08:09:20 <CraigC> Micah trusted the report from the guide.
08:10:13 <KorbenC> I am not saying SB did not erupt, but, this will be the first true eruption without any discernable signal on YNR (others you could pick it out)
08:10:27 <CraigC> "Report from the two guides on tour today. April provided photos of the eruption for confirmation."
08:11:04 <CraigC> KorbenC, if the signals don't support it, what do you conclude, scientifically?
08:11:08 <KorbenC> I trust the report Craig, and I have been sick all night, so please, I am not in the mood for an argument.
08:11:23 <KorbenC> Give me a minute to look alot further into the spectro signal.
08:11:52 <CraigC> my conclusion would be; the signals are not reliable enough
08:12:16 <KorbenC> Now, that is something I would argue on YNM, but YNR is known to have very minor signals already.
08:13:36 <Betty> Morning Korben
08:13:52 <KorbenC> Betty, hi
08:15:48 <Betty> I trust the eyes of a person. So I´m glad someone saw #1
08:15:48 <KorbenC> While it is probably just my sick, tired brain, but the only Spectro or waveform signature I might see is a bit of strengthening between 2 and 12Hz, but SB tends not to show best in those area.
08:16:53 <KorbenC> Craig, my conclusion: In order to accurately determine what happened, we need more information from loggers, eyewitnesses, and post-analysis to determine what happened at the time in question.
08:21:52 <CraigC> :thumbsup:
08:22:01 <CraigC> KorbenC, hope you feel better soon
08:23:24 <GO BOATY McBOAT> Udo posted that there NWS showed no wind in West
08:26:50 <CraigC> steamboat would make for a good one of those "Hold my Beer" memes
08:27:01 <KorbenC> haha
08:27:45 <CraigC> alas "the more I have seen, the less I know" tongue-in-cheek quip from my friend
08:28:05 <KorbenC> https://imgur.com/a/omd8E3A (2 bits of weather data I have are suggesting interesting information)
08:28:57 <CraigC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, have you watched Downton Abbey?
08:29:10 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i have seen some episodes
08:29:18 <GO BOATY McBOAT> not glued to it tho
08:29:28 <CraigC> it sucked me in..... I really need another vacation
08:29:39 <Betty> lol
08:29:58 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i looked back at the two 3m duration eruptions - one increased flow in the creek significantly, the other shows a spike but very low flow
08:30:29 <GO BOATY McBOAT> haha, i didn't see you for a downton abbey fan
08:31:25 <CraigC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, me neither, but I couldnt find anything that looked good and lots of people recommend it
08:31:52 <CraigC> it is good.... the storyline gets cheesy and convenient, but the script is great, adn the characters are lovable
08:32:25 <KorbenC> Craig, I would buy you a one way ticket to the arctic circle :D
08:32:35 <GO BOATY McBOAT> its a good production, some interesting scenes, i am not a fan of the class structure tho
08:32:38 <CraigC> Schitts Creek was great, I watched all of it in about 3 weeks
08:33:41 <CraigC> KorbenC, speaking of Arctic Circle, that George Clooney Netflix movie was good.... forgot the name
08:34:14 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i would like to go and see Northern Lights sometime
08:34:33 <CraigC> I only made it thru about 10 mins of Wonder Woman
08:34:48 <CraigC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, me too.... high on my bucket list
08:35:29 <KorbenC> CraigC, I think it was The Midnight Sky
08:35:43 <KorbenC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, you have not seen the northern lights in YNP?
08:36:01 <Betty> morning kc, you´re working?
08:36:21 <kcmule> better?
08:36:30 <KorbenC> morning kc
08:36:37 <Betty> I was just wondering :-)
08:37:04 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i thought i saw them once but wasn't sure if it was just lights from West.
08:37:04 <kcmule> I could work, I just wouldn't get paid
08:37:13 <KorbenC> I was in your part of CO yesterday, should have dropped my brother off at your house, haha.
08:37:44 <GO BOATY McBOAT> where did your Brother move to Korben?
08:37:45 <Betty> :-p
08:37:58 <KorbenC> Back up to Golden to finish his college.
08:38:25 <GO BOATY McBOAT> ah ok. at School of Mines or somewhere else?
08:38:26 <kcmule> cool
08:38:37 <KorbenC> Mines
08:38:53 <GO BOATY McBOAT> cool
08:39:50 <kcmule> good school. I see some homework in my recycler and I can't even read the questions much less provide the right answer
08:40:16 <KorbenC> lol
09:10:32 <76> Old Faithful NOAA shows wind from varying directions and gusts around 12 mph.
09:11:08 <76> ...Yesterday around eruptive.
09:11:41 <KorbenC> Skeylogs show high vent rate (a hundred or so feet in the air was solid 30mph wind shear) will low surface wind rates starting at about 1645.
09:12:01 <76> Sorry - spell check- ugh! - “eruption time “
09:13:35 <76> So maybe wind was a factor in the eruption not showing on gauges??
09:14:21 <KorbenC> Not enough to change runoff.
09:14:56 <KorbenC> besides, the shear would have been pushing it right down its runoff channell
09:15:19 <76> So strange.
09:15:40 <KorbenC> yup
09:16:18 <Betty> OF
09:18:28 <Betty> and congrats to Lori for GT entry #1300000
09:19:21 <Betty> yesterdays Fountain entry. Graham´s OF was 1299999
09:20:25 <Betty> Micah´s SB was 1300001
09:25:23 <GO BOATY McBOAT> cool, eruption count is getting high. Thanks to JarnoO for all his entries too
09:26:33 <GO BOATY McBOAT> he has 186,671 already
09:26:55 <GO BOATY McBOAT> Grand ie
09:58:44 <Betty> snowplow
10:14:26 <JarnoO> I wonder if Tantalus Creek got icedammed enough to prevent much flow towards the river. Discharge has been awfully consistent the last few days, so I wonder if SB's runoff just sits there in front of an icedam, drowning Tantalus itself perhaps
10:15:25 <Betty> evening JarnoO
10:16:53 <JarnoO> I also don't normally associate Steamboat with graceful water noise like in this November 2020 eruption (more precise date unknown): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU_GN6_-hYk
10:18:13 <JarnoO> also contains a little piece of slow-mo 2½ minutes in
10:18:40 <JarnoO> anyway, morening all, evening Betty
10:19:16 <JarnoO> morning*
10:31:12 <Betty> morning Kevin
10:35:42 <76> The Back Basin where Tantalus flows is very flat. So I think that it would make sense for ice dams to divert Steamboat’s water away from the sensor.
10:36:37 <76> Also, that would account for the difficulty in reading the graph the last few days.
10:52:36 <kcmule> OF
12:34:54 <Betty> OF
13:28:33 <Did SB happen?> So 2021 begins with a big ?
13:29:10 <Betty> there were eye witnessed reports, so yes
13:29:31 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It was a mirage
13:32:14 <Did SB happen?> :thumbsup:
14:10:38 <kcmule> OF
14:10:42 <kcmule> and bills win
14:10:46 <kcmule> good combination
14:11:07 <GO BOATY McBOAT> Playoffs?
14:11:31 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Bills win? That is different.
14:11:57 <kcmule> won not done
14:14:17 <GO BOATY McBOAT> who's next?
14:17:12 <kcmule> undetermined between indy ten or miami
14:17:29 <kcmule> line em up my team has earned the right to fear no one
14:17:57 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Except white Broncos.
14:18:08 <GO BOATY McBOAT> congrats
14:18:32 <GO BOATY McBOAT> the No Names have to win to get in ... tying the worst record for a postseason team
14:19:32 <GO BOATY McBOAT> if No Names lose then Giants are in with a record breaking 6-10 record
14:20:17 <kcmule> egads
14:23:49 <GO BOATY McBOAT> No Names or Giants get a home game too :)
14:28:32 <kcmule> what no first round bye?
14:40:51 <GO BOATY McBOAT> maybe we can demand a recount
14:41:02 <GO BOATY McBOAT> and change the rues
14:41:19 <GO BOATY McBOAT> its unfare to favor the better ranked teams
14:50:12 <KorbenC> Kevin, are you here, for some reason I forgot how to open up my yellow/green pen to refill it?
14:51:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Pull the top off (staight back). Unscrew the refill (should be black plastic).
14:51:40 <KorbenC> :thumbsup: OK, got it, thanks.
15:25:07 <LindaG> hodey
15:25:11 <LindaG> lol
15:25:14 <LindaG> howdy
15:25:29 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi
15:25:34 <JarnoO> afternoon Linda
15:25:35 <Betty> hey Linda, you´re late today
15:26:08 <LindaG> Betty, hi. I am been busy
15:26:18 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, hi
15:26:27 <LindaG> JarnoO, hi
15:26:54 <LindaG> I see steamboat snuck in
15:30:06 <GO BOATY McBOAT> hi Linda. it snuck in secretively
15:30:19 <KorbenC> Hi Linda
15:31:06 <LindaG> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, hi, yeah doesn't look like much on seismo
15:31:09 <LindaG> KorbenC, hi
15:31:31 <GO BOATY McBOAT> nope, not in the Tantalus Creek flow either
15:31:44 <LindaG> Great that they were able give a visual
15:31:57 <GO BOATY McBOAT> yeah, 1700 was late to be on-site at Norris
15:31:59 <LindaG> LindaG, huh sneaky
15:32:15 <LindaG> talking to myself again
15:32:26 <GO BOATY McBOAT> haha
15:32:32 <GO BOATY McBOAT> drab day here today
15:32:37 <Betty> hi Korben, feeling any better?
15:32:46 <KorbenC> yup
15:32:52 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i was ceaning out a closet ... woohoo ... cant believe i held onto so much crap
15:33:02 <KorbenC> thx for asking Vetty.
15:33:03 <LindaG> its rained most of the day here, supposed to do a bird count at my feeder and they all stayed in the bushes I think
15:33:05 <KorbenC> Beyyy
15:33:09 <KorbenC> Bettu
15:33:15 <KorbenC> You ger tje poinr
15:33:22 <LindaG> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, haha! I did the same thing
15:33:53 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i think i used the closet to store collective trash for a few years ... paper trash. not smelly stuff
15:34:36 <LindaG> I can actually see the floor of my closet and I like it!
15:34:43 <GO BOATY McBOAT> old work stuff, old worn out clothes, old newspapers
15:35:03 <GO BOATY McBOAT> never knew i had so many old checkbooks still in the house too, shredder has been busy
15:35:38 <LindaG> Old papers are the worst, I never seem to get rid of them
15:35:40 <GO BOATY McBOAT> fun seeing some old travel books and guide maps, got to relive some of the trips before i threw them all out
15:35:57 <LindaG> :)
15:37:11 <LindaG> Yesterday was gorgeous here, got to see a life bird that should have been out west, a Townsend's Warbler
15:37:32 <KorbenC> Finally finished setting up my new desk, https://imgur.com/a/h4wFU7i :D
15:38:43 <GO BOATY McBOAT> which one is for schol?
15:38:52 <LindaG> KorbenC, Is that Korben Command Center?
15:39:18 <KorbenC> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, probably the middle one, left one is for this page, the wall one is for other
15:39:51 <GO BOATY McBOAT> do classes start tomorrow?
15:40:30 <KorbenC> Wed
15:40:36 <KorbenC> I think
15:40:37 <Betty> Korben uses the same mousepad I do :-)
15:41:16 <LindaG> :)
15:42:15 <LindaG> Betty, I have to get one
15:42:39 <Betty> yes, you do for sure
15:43:18 <LindaG> Then I can flip through static :lol:
15:43:55 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i think i am supposed to work tomorrow?
15:44:24 <Betty> yes
15:44:25 <LindaG> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, no, that can't be true
15:45:16 <LindaG> GO BOATY McBOATFACE, you still working from home?
15:45:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Work?
15:45:46 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, remember that?
15:46:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Well it was over 10 years ago...
15:47:03 <LindaG> :)
15:48:00 <LindaG> Kevin L™ 🌵, how are the chickens and the quail?
15:49:11 <LindaG> OF i think
15:49:17 <Betty> OF ie
15:51:40 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Chickens are doing good. No quail for a while.
15:58:08 <LindaG> stanley idaho, looking goodhttps://www.seejh.com/webcams/idaho/stanley
16:01:52 <GO BOATY McBOAT> this link might work better https://www.seejh.com/webcams/idaho/stanley
16:02:51 <LindaG> i didn't realize it didn't work, thanks.
16:03:04 <LindaG> oh I merged words
16:03:19 <GO BOATY McBOAT> yep
16:07:24 <GO BOATY McBOAT> it looks cold tghere
16:08:03 <LindaG> yeah but oh so pretty
16:09:38 <LindaG> My phone says its 35 there
16:15:54 <LindaG> uh oh polar vortex and greenland block might send big snowstorms to Jersey. Where is Korben when I need him. ;)
16:18:38 <Betty> well, time for sleep, night all
16:18:45 <JarnoO> ask Forest to come over. He'll sort it :)
16:18:48 <JarnoO> cya Betty
16:18:57 <LindaG> Betty, night
16:19:03 <LindaG> JarnoO, :)
16:19:52 <LindaG> That means Boaty might get a lot of snow too
16:20:39 <JarnoO> don't think it likes that
16:21:10 <LindaG> lol not that boaty, go boaty, my bad
16:21:45 <JarnoO> oh, that boaty
16:21:54 <LindaG> :)
16:22:15 <LindaG> He's a couple of states south of me
16:23:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Cold here too. Might get under 60.
16:24:00 <LindaG> uhoh, any snow close to you?
16:24:42 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Mt Charleston
16:25:21 <LindaG> Can you see snow peaks?
16:25:45 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes. This is about 60 miles from me: https://www.leecanyonlv.com/the-mountain/webcams
16:27:02 <LindaG> nice
17:01:39 <GO BOATY McBOAT> its about time we had some snow
17:11:25 <LindaG> Im up for a good snow storm, I don't have to shovel
17:12:34 <GO BOATY McBOAT> i see several light snow chances but not really cold and not expecting more than an inch at a time
17:15:23 <LindaG> Its been snowing in North Jersey but not here
17:15:51 <GO BOATY McBOAT> it does that
17:16:20 <LindaG> :)
17:20:37 <kcmule> OF
17:22:08 <GO BOATY McBOAT> enjoy the darkness and lack of SB anticipation
17:22:13 <GO BOATY McBOAT> goodnight
17:22:17 <JarnoO> cya Graham
17:22:32 <Kevin L™ 🌵> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
17:52:32 <JarnoO> hm. I don't really like it at times when I get productive nearing midnight... oh well
17:52:35 <JarnoO> night all
17:53:12 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Night
18:39:27 <LindaG> night all