02:25:03
<Ætna> for our night owls: paroxysm at Etna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YgYdv8ZkHQ
02:25:20
<Ætna> Tremor levels already over 10^2, so likely close to end
02:49:22
<Ætna> paroxysm has ended
06:49:35
<KorbenC> I see boaty is a big "?"
06:50:55
<KorbenC> And there might be a Tsunami in New Zealand :D
07:51:22
<linda> morning
07:52:02
<KorbenC> linda, hi
08:03:58
<Surtur> NZ shake pretty obvious on YMR
08:04:37
<KorbenC> YNR to
08:05:03
<Surtur> Yup
08:07:11
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Morning Linda. BNSF put 44 cars on the ground east of Barstow yesterday.
08:12:07
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, Morning. Wow 44, nice
08:14:49
<Kevin L™ 🌵> https://fox40.com/news/california-connection/no-injuries-after-freight-train-derails-in-southern-california-desert/
08:15:46
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, Wow, that looks serious, yikes!
08:16:44
<Kevin L™ 🌵> May get a few more trains in Rainbow Canyon tomorrow.
08:51:14
<KorbenC> Hey JO, you see my email?
08:52:06
<Ætna> I did. Can't comment on it at the moment, as I don't let my computer run overnight
08:52:21
<KorbenC> :thumbsup:
08:53:45
<Boat Steam> Does the spike on Tantalus at least justify a ? mark entry for SB yesterday vs a comment?
09:01:13
<Polly> I have wondered about putting in a ? A time for SB of 1900ish.
09:01:47
<KorbenC> Hey Polly
09:02:13
<KorbenC> Well, I do know that it was not weather related, at least.
09:02:28
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, another trip? That will be fun~
09:03:18
<Polly> I’ve been hoping someone would see something from the road.
09:03:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Since it is getting warm fast this will probably be the last one until Oct/Nov.
09:03:46
<KorbenC> Polly, from trusted source there will be a few guides going by that area today.
09:04:14
<KorbenC> Also, I just looked through spectro data again, cannot find anything that looks remotley like SB, but, SB likes to play difficult with YNR.
09:05:56
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, how hot does it get out there?
09:06:19
<KorbenC> Any plans to be in the park this summer Polly?
09:06:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It can hit 120° along the Kane Springs Wash Road.
09:07:08
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, that's toasty :)
09:07:32
<Polly> Yes!! Hoping to bring my trailer up. 😀
09:07:47
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Caliente about the mid 100s
09:07:59
<KorbenC> Nice, would be fun to meet up again, afterall you were the first true gazer I met.
09:08:29
<Polly> I didn’t know that.
09:08:45
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, are there actually people in caliente? 😉
09:09:01
<KorbenC> :P I have a semi-photographic memory, my brain is pretty much a sponge.
09:09:49
<KorbenC> Well, I do need to take another test, have a good morning y'all!
09:14:18
<Lori S> Morning all.
09:14:40
<Ætna> morning Lori
09:14:45
<linda> hello lori hello
09:15:15
<Lori S> See Yellowstone guide drove by Norris this morn on way to pick up a tour at mammoth
09:15:57
<Lori S> Saw a "pretty good steam column" but it was also foggy due to cold
09:16:44
<Lori S> So he cant say 100% it was a major column
09:17:20
<Lori S> They are headed back south shortly. So there you have it. :)
09:18:04
<Lori S> Hello Linda hello. Hi Ætna.
09:19:50
<Polly> Thanks Lori
09:20:11
<Lori S> Hi Polly. YVW.
09:22:15
<Lori S> What time does SB logger update?
09:26:16
<Ætna> between 1230 and 1330. Usually just after 1230
09:27:06
<Lori S> Ætna, ok, thx
09:27:16
<Ætna> that is, if there's power. Since YNM is down and not up and running before 1200, I don't think we'll get data between 1230 and 1330
09:27:37
<Ætna> euhm... if YNM is not up and running before 1200*
09:28:17
<Lori S> and so we wait :D
09:30:38
<A> all of those devices are solar powered
09:31:38
<Ætna> YNM taps power from the museum and uploads its data through NPS' network
09:32:02
<Python regis> That Tantalus spike fits the Boat profile. I think a "A?" is justified.
09:32:15
<Boat Steam> +1
09:32:38
<Boat Steam> Plus temp chart sure did seem to hint at a possible eruption window
09:33:12
<Python regis> Heck it even has a temp spilke.
09:34:45
<Ætna> I would reckon YVO's logger data also goes through NPS' network, as it's too common for both YNM and the loggers to be down at the same time
09:47:33
<nutz> Cam ops must feel like the kid at the store riding the electric pony out front with out any money.
09:49:31
<linda> spring is right around the corner then they can get up there and fix
09:50:20
<nutz> If they remember to bring their tools.
09:51:02
<nutz> I bet on June, maybe?
09:51:15
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I am catching up on things.
09:53:11
<nutz> Writing your memoirs?
09:53:58
<nutz> Or antiquing the rails on your layout?
09:55:06
<linda> nutz, it's treacherous up there on roof now
09:55:13
<E> isn't it more tantalizing if Tantalus isn't Steamboat?
09:55:26
<nutz> Well, enjoy, time for me to catch up on more things.
10:04:15
<Python regis> https://www.flickr.com/photos/131878030@N04/51003714497/in/datetaken-public/ For Kevin
10:04:42
<KorbenC> Her R, how have you been?
10:05:35
<KorbenC> R, are you in DC right now then?
10:05:41
<Python regis> One of my favorite DC photos, medium format black and white. ISO 50 film, lots of fun coordinating a 4 second exposure with people moving in and out of the frame. Very odd seeing DC nearly devoid of people. I assumed it was because it was a Tuesday, but then I realized everything is closed (because COVID) and there was apparently a threat made on the Capitol for this week.
10:07:34
<Python regis> I've been better but I am hanging in there.
10:13:36
<KorbenC> Python regis, out of curiosity, any national guard members roaming around, or no?
10:14:20
<Python regis> Yes, with guns.
10:15:01
<KorbenC> They are good at letting you know not to mess bwith them.
10:15:05
<KorbenC> Bison on the OF mound
10:15:24
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Beautiful shot Ryan.
10:15:53
<Python regis> https://imgur.com/a/NZP43Zu Taken through the first barricade of the guards in the second barricade.
10:16:58
<KorbenC> Good shot
10:17:22
<Python regis> Thanks, Kevin. I also had someone top one of the more egregious comments I have had a tourist say to me: "We will stop taking selfies and get out of your way if you take a photo of us."
10:18:13
<Python regis> Upon seeing my bewildered look, they repeated their offer - apparently oblivious to how selfish that sounded.
10:18:41
<KorbenC> grr.
10:19:10
<KorbenC> R, I like the one with the washington monument in the background, but cannot identify where it is from?
10:19:26
<Python regis> Constitution Gardens.
10:20:02
<Python regis> Very empty, I parked on the Mall at midday and walked 500ft from the car for most of my photos. What long distance walking I did was for exercise.
10:20:05
<KorbenC> :thumbsup:
10:37:03
<Python regis> Heading out, my vote is pro-steamboat by the way.
10:37:21
<Python regis> Classic flood pulse signature.
10:37:23
<Python regis> Toodles.
10:49:50
<Ætna> cya
10:50:00
<Ætna> oh, that was 12m ago, haha
11:15:39
<Surtur Redux> If you haven't been paying attention, there was another 7+ EQ northeast of New Zealand. Tsunami warning for Kermadec Islands
11:16:35
<KorbenC> Fun! :D
11:17:10
<KorbenC> Been a while since we have had two separate Tsunami warned EQ's in the same day.
11:17:50
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Surfs up!
11:18:26
<KorbenC> Only one meter max, too bad my NZ trip this march got Covid'ed
11:23:00
<KorbenC> OF
11:27:19
<Surtur Redux> Go Reykjanes!
11:28:14
<Ben VL> Steamboat confirmed my tour guide it looks like
11:28:21
<Ben VL> By*
11:29:51
<KorbenC> yes, it did
11:30:33
<Ben VL> Hooefully temps will upload and we can get a more accurate time
11:31:15
<KorbenC> I am guessing 1817, you?
11:31:38
<KorbenC> Wow my typing is messed up :P
11:31:52
<KorbenC> 1926*
11:35:17
<Ben VL> 1800/1900 ish. I don't know as well how long it takes for the water to reach the gauge
11:44:12
<Surtur Redux> 2nd South Pacific EQ waves on YMR
11:44:19
<KorbenC> YNR shows arival from 2nd quake
11:45:20
<Surtur Redux> 6.0 just happened in Greece! What a day
12:58:51
<kc (working)> OF ie
13:01:33
<kc (working)> another eq in NZ too
13:18:52
<Ben VL> Kc, is that a third?
13:22:31
<Surtur Redux> Yeah, I just saw that. 8+
13:23:42
<Surtur Redux> On the Kermadec Ridge, not right next to NZ. It will generate another tsunami warning, certainly
13:56:30
<Ætna> logger upload failed. Probably related to YNM outage
13:57:21
<Ætna> could be a power outage or network outage
14:06:26
<Ben VL> Interesting that YNR is up tho
14:07:00
<Ætna> YNR is independent of YNM
14:08:11
<Ætna> YNR is solar-powered (I would assume so, given it's located some distance away from the nearest road and powerlines) and its data goes through Mount Washburn
14:08:30
<Ætna> YNM on the other hand piggybacks off of the Museum's network and power
14:08:51
<Lori S> We should have photos of SB steam column late tonight.
14:10:13
<Ætna> fish did say they want to relay YNM's data through YNR, so that in the case of a network outage it doesn't affect the seismic network around Norris. Power outage on the other hand... It does have batteries, so it's something
14:10:55
<Ætna> but now either an outage of the network or power means you don't get any YNM data
14:11:08
<Lori S> Whole lotta shaking going on in the Kermadec Islands region
14:11:26
<linda> busy seismo
14:14:08
<Ben VL> Ætna, gotchya
14:14:19
<Ætna> currently it is thought the 7.3 near New Zealand's Northern Island is independent of the 8.1 near the Kermadec Islands. Latter quake had a 7.4 foreshock
14:14:37
<Ben VL> Huge
14:16:31
<Ætna> sparsely populated area, so the effects aren't that damaged for the 8.1 quake. 7.3's effects impacted a wider area, but overall damage seems limited
14:16:46
<Ætna> aren't that great*
14:19:19
<Ben VL> Does anyone know if there is word on the cam?
14:19:27
<Ben VL> Still waiting for good conditions?
14:19:59
<Kevin L™ 🌵> They tried. It didn't work.
14:19:59
<Ætna> Krýsuvík (Iceland, where that 5.7 EQ happened a week or two ago and before and after a generally swarming behavior): ACC yellow -> orange, tremor levels increased on March 3
14:20:43
<Ben VL> Really, when was that?
14:21:09
<Ætna> https://volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=371030
14:22:15
<Ætna> before I start to mangle IMO's words (or that of the Smithsonian, really), I'd read the weekly reports
14:24:01
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Last week
14:25:25
<Ben VL> Ok. Last I heard they had they were able to fix the mount or something, and then ran into problems with the wiring. So it sounds like that's still not working?
14:25:49
<Ætna> from what I read, Krýsuvík's possible eruption should largely be effusive, but with a phreatic twist as the peninsula it's on soaked with water
14:26:22
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Right Ben. Tried and wiring still did not work.
14:27:10
<Ben VL> That stinks. It's turning into quite a project for them
14:28:10
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Probably be April.
14:28:35
<Ben VL> Bummer.
14:29:06
<Ben VL> At least we've got a couple rangers putting in E times for some of the geysers
14:44:44
<KorbenC> Geeez that fault is active, the one down by NZ
14:49:55
<Ætna> Veniaminof unassigned to orange
14:54:33
<Ætna> Etna tremor levels are generally on the rise, but nothing sustains
14:55:32
<Ætna> could be post-paroxysm explosive activity which occasionally happened in the latest series of paroxysms
15:17:34
<Eric> Hey all!
15:18:12
<Eric> Not to go all MG on everyone, but what is up with all the seismic activity this week?
15:18:31
<E> arth go boom
15:18:39
<Eric> Mt. Hood Bergschrund opened up this week....crazy early.
15:19:12
<Eric> I contacted CVO about it and the SIC kinda blew it off, but I am still wondering.
15:20:53
<KorbenC> Disclaimer: This is currently not thought to be the end of the world :)
15:21:17
<KorbenC> Eric, I wonder, I am sure GOSA and or this chatpage/GT have bylaws that may or may not extend to MG, any idea on how the legality works there?
15:23:25
<Ben VL> I've always wondered how that works, and how things like copyrights on GT descriptions and stuff like that
15:23:54
<Ben VL> like that work*
15:24:47
<K> carefully, I'm sure
15:25:14
<KorbenC> Especially after she screenshotted this chat, including many of our messages in one of her videos, and then gave her followers the link here, but, reading some of our messages on youtube, does that break privacy and other policies? and does she techinicly give each of us credit and get or premisions, or no.
15:25:50
<KorbenC> And, as a member of the GT team, I was hoping Eric would have some kind of answer. :D
15:25:58
<K> This chat has no privacy
15:26:15
<Ben VL> I think she (or someone) stole one of Udo's SB descriptions or akmw
15:26:18
<Ben VL> oof
15:26:24
<Ben VL> Something*
15:26:33
<KorbenC> I now, but there has to be some kind of bylaw's that pertain to citing and giving credit.
15:26:46
<K> You can't cite a username.
15:26:50
<Ben VL> There's a big disclaimer on the Sep 17, '18 SB
15:27:24
<KorbenC> I mean, I think one of GT's things is that you have to be a member to "use" the information and names, and GT does not have an account for Mary Greely
15:28:33
<K> You don't have to be a member to be in the chat.
15:29:09
<KorbenC> Data License says "The minimum expected attribution is: © GeyserTimes" and on none of MG's videos with GT on it does she say that :D
15:29:23
<KorbenC> K, yea, I think it should be a requirment, but others have different opinions
15:29:26
<K> Ok
15:29:51
<Eric> hey, back on topic! earthquakes?
15:30:50
<Sam> Eric, lol
15:31:07
<Sam> Anymore in NZ since the 8.1?
15:31:16
<Eric> Like herding cats around here!
15:31:23
<Eric> Not that I have seen or heard
15:31:39
<Eric> I am more worried about my local volcano :-P
15:31:44
<linda> meow
15:31:51
<Ben VL> Af least for me, I've always wondered how much detail I should give on my rare geyser reports, vs writing a full report somewhere else
15:32:02
<Ben VL> Sorry Eric, I can drop it
15:32:09
<Sam> Eric, where is that?
15:32:25
<KorbenC> Eric, sorry, but it is a legitimate concern/question :)
15:32:34
<KorbenC> But yes, I will drop it.
15:33:07
<Ætna> USGS notes a few aftershocks >5.0, with the largest measuring 6.1
15:33:25
<Eric> Mt. Hood, Cascade Volcano
15:33:38
<Sam> Ahhh
15:33:45
<KorbenC> Eric, you better climb it before it turns into Helens v.2
15:34:00
<Ætna> they also note that the 8.1 and 7.3 EQs are unrelated to each other, so purely by chance New Zealand got some more than wished for shaking on a day
15:35:13
<Sam> The first quake off the shore of Gisborne was unrelated
15:35:55
<Sam> But the other two near the Kermadec Islands were
15:36:56
<Ætna> yes, 8.1 was preceded by a 7.4 foreshock
15:37:11
<Sam> :thumbsup:
15:45:28
<Eric> Ben, that is totally up to you on the details for your reports, but I would encourage you to add everything to GT. It will help in the future when people are using the data...trying to find everyones full reports someplace else could be probelmatic.
15:57:11
<Ben VL> Eric, generally, that's what I have been doing (at least for the reports I have finished). There's just a part of me that's worried about getting credit if large amounts of it are used somewhere
16:14:30
<Eric> If anyone uses your entry professionally, they will site you as the observer. I suggest you contact Mara directly if you have questions about GT entries and how they are or should be cited. She spent a lot of time on it in her last publication.
16:15:34
<Eric> Also if you have more concerns, contact support@geysertimes.org and it will reach the right people. GT is taking scientific reference very seriously.
16:16:40
<Ben VL> Good to know. Thanks
16:21:12
<Betty> afternoon all
16:21:38
<Ætna> evening Betty
16:21:58
<Betty> evening Jarno
16:23:49
<Ben VL> Hi Betty
16:24:25
<Betty> I´m just home from my late shift. Train was late for more than 1 hr. I hate when this happens
16:24:52
<Betty> it is after midnight
16:25:01
<Betty> hi Ben VL
16:25:17
<Eric> Hi Betty
16:25:29
<Eric> wow...that is a long day.
16:25:36
<Betty> hi Eric
16:26:06
<Eric> 50 degrees and sunny in the UGB....great weather to replace a camera! :-D
16:26:15
<Betty> yes... and I had to get up early for a doc appt
16:26:47
<linda> howdy
16:26:54
<Betty> sometimes I hate trains...
16:27:02
<Betty> hi Linda
16:27:15
<Ben VL> Wow that's warm
16:28:11
<Ætna> hour's worth of delay? I already start complaining at 10 minutes' worth...
16:28:45
<Eric> Hi Linda
16:29:24
<linda> Eric, hi
16:29:30
<linda> Betty, hi
16:29:33
<Eric> Even washburn is starting to look a little bare.
16:31:02
<linda> Betty, Betty, shhh kevin will hear you (regarding train)
16:31:53
<Betty> then I can bluster with him
16:32:17
<linda> Betty, :)
16:32:25
<Betty> :-D
16:33:18
<Betty> It was sooo cold, I still try to get warm. I need a schnaps
16:36:22
<linda> Betty, have two :)
16:36:42
<Ætna> 6.2 aftershock of the 8.1 at Kermadec
16:36:56
<Betty> I have 2 cups of hot tea
16:38:18
<linda> Betty, no heat on train?
16:38:49
<Betty> solala, I like more heat
16:39:30
<linda> Betty, how long is your train ride?
16:39:45
<Betty> I have to drive1 hr
16:40:00
<linda> that's a hike
16:40:08
<Betty> yep
16:41:04
<Betty> 21:30 I left my company, 0:10 I opened my door
16:41:32
<Ætna> ugh, that's no good
16:42:47
<Betty> usually I´m home 23:00
16:43:04
<Betty> bad enough :-p
16:43:18
<Ætna> that'd be a day-trip here :)
16:43:27
<Betty> all because of covid
16:43:38
<Betty> lol
16:43:52
<Ætna> I take trains run more frequently otherwise?
16:44:56
<Betty> usually yes
16:45:53
<Betty> It has been a bad week so far, but the other days the lag was about 10 min, that´s no problem
16:46:18
<Betty> last OF was missed?
16:46:37
<Ætna> think so, haven't paid much attention to the static
16:48:07
<Ætna> 1620 post-eruptive
16:48:27
<Ætna> static got stuck @ 1614
16:48:38
<Betty> bah :-)
16:48:51
<Betty> thx for checking
16:49:04
<Ætna> no wonder it wasn't caught then
16:50:46
<Kevin L™ 🌵> There was a derailment near Barstow that has the BNSF line totally closed for over 30 hours now. Be interesting to see if Amtrak sends one out tonight. Of course nothing new about a late Amtrak.
16:51:28
<Betty> hey Kevin
16:52:00
<Betty> I guess that affected my train too
16:53:02
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It may have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-xGASVWNw&ab_channel=CBSLosAngeles
16:53:16
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I wasn't driving....
16:56:35
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, ready to blow things up?
16:58:36
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Yes I am. I have several targets ready and 5 pounds of tannerite.
17:00:30
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, go get em
17:04:04
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Wish I had another 2020 calendar.
17:08:35
<GO BOATY> not a good time for the sensors to go out, but yeah for confirmation
17:08:40
<GO BOATY> hello
17:09:05
<Betty> hi Graham
17:10:21
<GO BOATY> 5th of the year, 1 behnd last year, 2 behind 2019
17:10:38
<GO BOATY> lets hope for rapid recovery now
17:10:41
<GO BOATY> hi Betty
17:10:46
<Ætna> not bad considering it had a disturbance
17:11:26
<GO BOATY> yeah, this was one of the longer disturbance impacts, but maybe it will be fine all summer ong now
17:12:02
<Ætna> I think it did rapid recovery. 10d seems about normal for this time of year, maybe on the long side of things. Regardless, I have good hope it'll be just as stupendous as last year
17:13:04
<GO BOATY> it went from 17 down to 5 days in the 2018 longer disturbance tho, so rapidly dropped
17:13:18
<Ætna> and given that apparantly seasonal variability exists which was correlated with meltwater availability, I think it'll speed up during summer
17:13:21
<GO BOATY> this was good, but not as extreme
17:14:23
<GO BOATY> agree, it could just be dealing with winter recovery too
17:15:46
<Ætna> could be that the 17 to 5d was an extreme case of shortening. It seems more typical for SB to half its interval once it's recovered
17:16:05
<Ætna> halve*
17:16:25
<Ætna> any additional shortening I would dare to say is unrelated to the disturbance
17:42:00
<kc (working)> OF
17:47:42
<Betty> hi kcmule
17:48:03
<kcmule> howdy Betty
17:52:58
<kcmule> goodbye 🌞
18:21:35
<linda> hi forest
18:21:55
<KorbenC> Hi Linda.
18:22:11
<KorbenC> Can you send me over your spring, hoping to climb this weekend, and it is snowing sideways right now :P
18:22:27
<linda> ill send my chipmunk
18:25:54
<linda> KorbenC, hi
18:26:12
<linda> KorbenC, how many inches?
19:03:55
<KorbenC> Sorry Linda, was out for a walk, but only an inch so far, blowing too fast for anything to stay in one spot