Showing logs for date: 2021-05-07
05:06:14 <linda> G looks happy
05:06:39 <linda> but then they all do
06:25:08 <linda> wow weird colors
06:48:51 <linda> marmot iei
06:49:24 <linda> dep looks hot too
06:53:51 <Kat> Good morning!
06:55:08 <z> Hi Kat, good viewing, have fun. Take it away!
06:55:10 <Kat> It's FriYay! - not that that really matters to this retired person! Haha
06:55:38 <Kat> Morning Joe - have a great day!
07:20:03 <KorbenC> bubbles on dep
07:20:43 <KorbenC> .
07:20:43 <KorbenC> .
07:20:43 <KorbenC> .
07:21:14 <KorbenC> So cool to see the start up close
07:21:44 <Kat> Nice
07:22:41 <Kat> Glad I caught iyt!
07:22:45 <Kat> it*
07:23:09 <KorbenC> very short little dep
07:36:08 <linda> morning!
07:38:38 <KorbenC> linda, hi
07:39:02 <linda> KorbenC, hi
07:43:19 <Kat> Morning Korben, Linda and all
07:47:28 <KorbenC> can we pan right?
07:47:30 <KorbenC> Imp?
07:47:33 <KorbenC> something big
07:51:24 <linda> maybe the anenomes together
07:51:45 <KorbenC> linda, to far left, and improbably was splashing prior to it.
07:51:59 <KorbenC> The steam was visible on static too, impressive whatever it was.
07:52:27 <linda> yeah watched video
07:52:58 <linda> well 95% humidity
07:53:22 <linda> actually 90
07:53:27 <KorbenC> yes, but that Giantess boil just now didn't produce taht much steam :D
07:53:55 <linda> :p
07:54:04 <linda> :)
07:54:28 <KorbenC> Nice imp sure now
07:55:08 <KorbenC> Linda, are you running the cam?
07:56:07 <KorbenC> Morning Dave
07:56:28 <Dave from B™> Morning Korben, linda
07:57:05 <Dave from B™> looks cold this morning
07:59:23 <Kat> Aurum splashing
07:59:40 <Kat> KorbenC, I am
08:00:05 <Kat> KorbenC, need something Korben
08:00:48 <Kat> HI Jarno
08:01:00 <KorbenC> Hi Jarno
08:01:08 <KorbenC> Kat, do you need something from me?
08:01:09 <JarnoO> That Imp note - I think it's ongoing as early as 0744. I would give it a plausible eruption
08:01:29 <JarnoO> has there been zoomed in on Imp following that event?
08:01:33 <KorbenC> JarnoO, I am considering that
08:01:41 <KorbenC> JarnoO, we have seen imp, but no zooms in
08:02:16 <JarnoO> eruptive marks should still be fresh, so it should be possible to judge whether an eruption happened
08:02:50 <Kat> There you go
08:03:06 <KorbenC> Still looks way to active for it to have been a major.
08:03:28 <KorbenC> But given the high level of activity, think maybe a minor at 0747?
08:03:44 <Betty> morning all
08:03:54 <Betty> afternoon Jarno
08:03:57 <JarnoO> afternoon Betty
08:04:03 <KorbenC> Hi Betty
08:04:16 <Betty> hi Korben
08:04:43 <JarnoO> hm, depends on how fast Imp has been observed to refull following an eruption. Either way the water is clear so might just have been a period of tall jetting rather than an actual eruption
08:04:59 <JarnoO> so minor most likely then
08:06:31 <KorbenC> I think I am going to put a 0747 minor (?) wc, any objections?
08:08:45 <Kat> Morning Betty
08:09:51 <Betty> hi Kat
08:11:37 <Kat> OF
08:13:12 <Kat> East entrance open to Fishing Bridge and Hayden today
08:15:21 <Dave from B™> Woohoo. Snow sightings will litter FB today
08:15:43 <Betty> hi Dave from B™
08:15:44 <Kat> Dave from B™, :)
08:16:03 <Betty> we had snow too
08:16:19 <Betty> weird in May
08:16:52 <Dave from B™> Hi, Betty. This is a different kind of snow
08:17:04 <Betty> ohhh
08:18:18 <Betty> daisy
08:20:03 <KorbenC> Jim at Daisy.
08:22:46 <Kat> LION ie
08:23:13 <Dave from B™> Snow is a bear that frequents the Thorofare Trailhead area near Lake Butte Overlook
08:27:59 <Betty> ahhhhh
08:35:36 <linda> Morning newcomers!
08:36:05 <JarnoO> morning Linda
08:36:16 <linda> JarnoO, hi
08:37:55 <linda> nice pan, :)
08:43:12 <Kat> linda, :)
08:43:37 <Betty> morning linda, Joe Friday, Kevin L™ 🌵, ChrisO, kc (working)
08:43:56 <ChrisO> morning Betty
08:44:14 <linda> Betty, hi
08:44:29 <linda> hey ChrisO
08:44:40 <ChrisO> hey :)
08:45:18 <ChrisO> anyone got a picture of that mountain face from this time last year?
08:45:35 <Kat> 3C
08:46:12 <linda> Mountain face?
08:46:32 <Dave from B™> You talking about CraigC?:D
08:46:51 <linda> I think 3C is stealing Mug's thunder
08:46:51 <KorbenC> ChrisO, what mountain and which face?
08:47:04 <ChrisO> disregard, camera moved right after I asked the question
08:47:24 <linda> ChrisO, Talking about sasquatch?
08:47:57 <Dave from B™> ahhh. the tree
08:48:00 <ChrisO> no, geology stuff. Wanted to see if anything changed over the year.
08:48:14 <KorbenC> :thumbsup:
08:48:23 <linda> ah
08:48:48 <linda> nice to see the swallows
08:48:50 <Betty> Aurum static?
08:48:53 <Kat> There's the squatch
08:49:02 <Betty> or pump?
08:49:49 <Kat> Missed it :(
08:50:15 <Betty> oh, Jim got it, cool
09:02:51 <Kat> Improbable still splashing along
09:03:12 <JarnoO> does look stronger than I can remember
09:03:48 <Kat> Bigger than usual
09:06:54 <Kat> Mesmerizing
09:07:05 <Dave from B™> Has anyone let Micah know. This is his territory:)
09:07:34 <KorbenC> Dave from B™, yes, we talked about it not too long ago.
09:08:55 <Dave from B™> Thanks Korben
09:09:07 <JarnoO> AL ie
09:31:28 <Mario> Hello everyone
09:31:39 <KorbenC> Hi Mario
09:31:47 <Mario> beautiful morning
09:32:11 <Betty> hi Mario
09:33:35 <Kat> Hi Mario
09:41:59 <Kat> Jjust a quick peek
09:42:22 <Kat> Just*
09:47:30 <Kat> OF
09:48:17 <Eric> Good Morning!
09:48:20 <Eric> Pretty OF
09:48:37 <linda> Eric, hi
09:48:45 <Kat> Of trumped Lion! :(
09:48:57 <Kat> Morning Eric
09:49:05 <Eric> Hi Linda & Kat!
09:49:22 <Eric> Getting ready to be in basin?
09:49:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Morning John Boy
09:49:44 <Eric> Hi Kevin :-D
09:52:17 <Kat> Eric, packing
09:53:51 <JarnoO> morning Eric
09:54:01 <linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, hi
09:54:19 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi
09:54:30 <linda> Kat pans good!
09:54:37 <linda> :)
09:55:07 <Kat> Thank you Linda - sometimes I get wacky though! Hahaha
09:55:18 <Kat> Kevin L™ 🌵, HI!
09:55:23 <linda> Kat, >(
09:55:49 <linda> Kat, Oh you haven't seen wacky until I get on lol
09:56:16 <Eric> Hi Jarno
09:56:47 <Kat> LOL Linda
09:56:49 <JarnoO> Eastern Pacific 40/60 (1)
09:56:55 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Sent you an email Linda
09:57:06 <Eric> Already?
09:57:07 <JarnoO> WNW 10mph
09:57:10 <Kat> linda, I never use the ball - only the arrow
09:57:41 <Kat> Gazers gathering at Grand
09:57:46 <JarnoO> and I thought the Atlantic was the one to have the honor for first system of the season
09:58:10 <Eric> The Pacific throws some oddballs
09:58:39 <JarnoO> Korben would be happy
09:59:00 <Kat> No Atlantic systems allowed while I'm away! :)
09:59:01 <linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, oh my goodness, poor thing
09:59:04 <Eric> Can't even grab breakfast at hams yet :-(
09:59:27 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That is one out of two Linda
09:59:35 <Kat> Eric, when does Hams open?
09:59:43 <Betty> hi Eric
09:59:47 <Eric> I think Jeff talked about beginning of June
09:59:49 <Eric> Hi Betty
09:59:55 <Eric> at least lower hams
10:00:01 <linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, hope it remembers what did that
10:00:04 <Eric> Upper is probably open already
10:00:13 <Kat> Darn - pack a lunch
10:00:19 <linda> signing in
10:00:43 <Kat> OK
10:00:58 <Eric> Why does the Lodge need to have such bad food?
10:01:22 <Kat> It is bad
10:01:29 <linda> Kat, got it
10:01:52 <Eric> It would be a great place to eat location wise, if the food didn't just completely suck.
10:02:15 <Kat> Great - bbl another doc appt - heck you would think I'm getting older! Hahaha
10:02:19 <Eric> I love what they did at Canyon. I hope the Lodge follows suit soon.
10:02:28 <LindaGp> Kat, thanks
10:02:28 <Eric> Bye Kat
10:02:35 <Kat> bbs
10:03:54 <LindaGp> im ready for grand! 😊
10:05:01 <Dave from B™> Someday, OFL cabins will be replaced and we will all become campers:(
10:11:09 <no one> Put camping back in at OF? Never
10:12:01 <LindaGp> Expecting delivery here so if something exciting is happening and im not responding camops feel free to take the cam
10:13:55 <no one> Can not camp anyway. Please note: The online reservations system is currently not able to access, confirm, modify, or cancel reservations that were booked prior to April 9. We expect this feature to be available soon.
10:14:23 <Dave from B™> They are switching to a new system. 2022 reservations open June 2
10:14:32 <no one> If you are like dave and set at a desk all day, you can call for reservations, maybe?
10:14:56 <Dave from B™> It doesn't always help
10:15:38 <no one> I don't want reservations in 2022, I want to know if there are any sports this year.
10:17:30 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Use this link and click "view calendar". If there are open days they will show.
10:20:21 <LindaGp> Daisy
10:22:25 <LindaGp> Like clockwork got the delivery
10:29:07 <no one> Interesting, they changed the site specifications. They now have sites just for my trailer.
10:31:07 <LindaGp> Ok come in
10:33:49 <LindaGp> Oops wrong place lol
10:38:33 <Eric> 5/
10:38:45 <Eric> 5/14 - 5/19 Open in Madison Campground :-D
10:39:34 <Eric> RV up to 30'
10:40:18 <Dave from B™> book it, Eric!!
10:40:44 <Eric> haha, nope...probably going to be up on Mt. Shasta that weekend :-P
10:41:06 <Eric> Hi Dave
10:41:37 <LindaGp> Oops i lost the internet for a while
10:41:46 <KorbenC> Hi Eric.
10:41:51 <KorbenC> Enjoy mt. Shasta
10:42:08 <Eric> Thanks Korben
10:42:33 <KorbenC> I had a really nice climb last night, left early afternoon after school and climbed up to 13K on Pikes Peak. :D
10:42:54 <KorbenC> I learned I don't have to wake up at 2AM to get away from the crowds, lol.
10:42:59 <Eric> We will see if it happens, weather/wind dependent. If I can't do it next weekend, I might try later in the summer. hitting the changeover from winter to summer route over the next few weeks.
10:43:18 <Eric> Yep, afternoons are great hiking time.
10:43:38 <Dave from B™> Hi Eric
10:43:39 <KorbenC> Weather will be horrible here for a few weeks. Darn monsoon season.
10:44:20 <Joe Friday> 6.0 EQ south of Macquarie Island
10:44:24 <Eric> We are moving into flower's so awesome over the next couple months.
10:45:19 <KorbenC> Eric, I have been looking at pictures, they are amazing in the valleys right now.
10:45:25 <JarnoO> Korben, 40/60 in EPac
10:45:37 <KorbenC> :heart::heart::heart:
10:46:28 <Kevin iPad> We didn’t even get cactus bloom this year
10:46:31 <KorbenC> I [b] need [/b] my may Hurricane fix
10:48:03 <Eric> I have a friend hiking the PCT from the mexican border, she had some marvelous cactus bloom photos!
10:48:51 <Joe Friday> 40/60 ???
10:49:28 <KorbenC> Joe Friday, 40% of Development in the next 48hrs, 60% chance of developing in the next 5 days
10:49:31 <JarnoO> 40% chance to become a tropical depression in 48h and 60% in 5 days
10:49:34 <KorbenC> (For Hurricanes and Invests)
10:49:47 <Joe Friday> Thanks, I won't get too excited then
10:49:52 <Dave from B™> 40/60 is a size of halibut to me:)
10:49:59 <KorbenC> lol Dave.
10:50:05 <Betty> :-)
10:50:14 <Joe Friday> I thought it was the number of shrimp in the bag
10:50:16 <JarnoO> I'd say 40/60 isn't too bad for a May system
10:50:34 <KorbenC> it isn't, and those values tend to increase over a few days
10:50:38 <Dave from B™> To educate you all, there are 10-20, 20-40, 40-60 and 60-up
10:50:57 <Joe Friday> Weight or size?
10:50:59 <KorbenC> Is it like BMI but for fish?
10:51:20 <Dave from B™> Whole fish weight in pounds
10:51:27 <JarnoO> next update is at 2000 PDT or (unlikely) earlier
10:51:46 <Mike J> 40 - 60 is an age that, when I was in it, I thought I wanted to be younger and, now, I wish I was in it again.
10:51:57 <Dave from B™> haha Mike J
10:52:10 <Dave from B™> I'm still in the club for almost 2 years
10:52:12 <KorbenC> I would think NHC would put it as 30-70, but I guess the early season leads them to be conservative :)
10:52:27 <Joe Friday> Halibut can get big
10:53:08 <Dave from B™> Commercially, most sold are 10-20 and 20-40
10:53:33 <Dave from B™> We love 40-60's. Staff can still lift them and the fillets are THICK
10:53:51 <Dave from B™> 60-80 is a 2 man job
10:54:00 <KorbenC> a 40-60 Halibut almost weighs as much as my fat dog :P
10:54:19 <Kevin iPad> They are awesome grilled
10:54:39 <Dave from B™> My wife is getting halibut for Mother's Day
10:55:26 <JarnoO> I really enjoy a good piece of salmon every now and again
10:55:58 <KorbenC> Salmon with lemon pepper and garlic is amazing.
10:56:56 <Mike J> Stop it! Now all I can think about is a good fish dinner, and we ain't got those in Phoenix.
10:57:15 <JarnoO> haha
10:58:02 <Dave from B™> you also don't know how to grow grass; except on a golf course
10:58:24 <Dave from B™> Utah also has that problem
10:58:37 <KorbenC> I am going fishing on Sunday Mike ;) Will catch some nice fresh delicious rainbow trout and grill them with lemon pepper, garlic, and lots of butter :P OK, I will stop now. :)
10:58:50 <KorbenC> Mike J, you can order from Dave, he has some good fish.
10:59:04 <JarnoO> Korben, at that rate you better invite Mike for a fish dinner
10:59:33 <JarnoO> Janet is in Yellowstone
10:59:46 <KorbenC> JarnoO, if Mike drives all the way up here, survive the altitude, and find my house, he can take some trout.
11:00:11 <Dave from B™> Mike lives too far away to enjoy my fish. Has to be 2 day UPS ground from me
11:00:26 <Dave from B™> He can order when Hugo comes his way:)
11:01:19 <KorbenC> Dave, I think he is 4 or 5 day UPS, you have to double the time of a shipment because it will go to the blackhole of Phoenix.
11:02:50 <Eric> I got a shipment from France in 2 days!
11:02:56 <Eric> via UPS
11:03:07 <JarnoO> that's quick
11:03:15 <KorbenC> Thats fast.
11:03:31 <Eric> Yep, paid an extra $5 to get it fast versus 15-20 days!
11:03:52 <Eric> DHL versus UPS
11:04:02 <Eric> couldn't believe how fast UPS got it here.
11:04:12 <KorbenC> JarnoO, I was browsing Dutch Amazon this morning and could not resist sharing with you what I found:
11:04:18 <KorbenC> Who would buy liver powder?
11:04:59 <Eric> 40 calories per tablespoon, not bad
11:05:32 <Eric> No idea why you would really want liver powder or anything liver related though :-P
11:05:47 <KorbenC> My thought exactly.
11:06:07 <JarnoO> I enjoy myself some pig's liver every now and again
11:06:13 <JarnoO> on bread, that is
11:06:39 <JarnoO> Lion
11:06:52 <JarnoO> LC ie
11:06:55 <KorbenC> Thats the Dutch version of "everything goes better with bacon" Jarno, "everything is better with bread." :)
11:07:20 <JarnoO> :)
11:07:46 <KorbenC> I will say though, Europe has some really really good bread.
11:07:58 <Betty> bread is awesome
11:08:09 <LindaGp> Little cub ie
11:08:14 <Betty> ask Kevin
11:09:41 <JarnoO> and actually, bread in the Netherlands is a major source of iodine due to the salt used. Without bread we'd be having an iodine deficiency
11:10:33 <KorbenC> JO, I am both laughing and confused at that statement.
11:10:59 <KorbenC> Anyways, I have to take a final. Have a good morning y'all.
11:11:06 <JarnoO> cya Korben, good luck
11:11:59 <Dave from B™> We have a frenchman in Billings who has a bread shop....yum:)
11:13:45 <JarnoO> I bet better than from the store
11:14:43 <JarnoO> next Lion @ 1213±5m if series continues. 1106:18 3m48s
11:21:57 <LindaGp> Of
11:26:36 <JarnoO> oh hi Grand
11:27:05 <LindaGp> Grand ie
11:27:07 <LindaGp> .
11:27:07 <LindaGp> .
11:29:36 <JarnoO> Beverlys are in Norris
11:31:56 <JarnoO> D4(?)/G1Q 10m51s
11:32:22 <JarnoO> 1117:00
11:32:24 <JarnoO> quite the timing
11:42:40 <Craig M> morning
11:42:47 <JarnoO> morning CraigM
11:42:53 <Betty> hi Craig M
11:45:08 <LindaGp> Splashes
11:46:57 <JarnoO> steam-driven splashes
11:47:42 <Craig M> camera is optimistic :D
11:48:06 <LindaGp> 😊 always
11:48:23 <JarnoO> at least better than it being dizzy or tired
11:48:37 <LindaGp> Hehe been surprised before
11:49:01 <JarnoO> am really hoping for the Beaches to do some good action this season
11:49:16 <JarnoO> Imp and Plume too, actually
11:50:55 <Craig M> sponge major up to 300feet
11:50:57 <Craig M> mark my words
11:51:00 <Craig M> ;P
11:51:06 <JarnoO> hehe
11:51:23 <JarnoO> wouldn't be bad to have another major geyser there
11:57:19 <Eric> Active sponge would sure make aurum hard to see :-D
11:57:58 <Eric> Camera Admin...please reduce resolution! It's crazy that simple fix hasn't been done.
11:58:29 <Eric> The picture would be soooo much clearer.
11:58:56 <Craig M> but i need to see the horse flies coming off of bison pies
11:59:37 <Betty> we just need to tell Sponge not to be active during Aurum. That simple :-)
11:59:38 <JarnoO> ...
12:00:09 <JarnoO> well, if Sponge would be doing that, Aurum will make sure to erupt right when all steam is still clearing up
12:00:37 <Eric> Aurum only erupts when Kevin is looking the other way :-PP
12:00:41 <Betty> or it just needs to go taller
12:00:50 <Eric> :heart::heart::heart:
12:01:46 <Betty> I got my 1st Biontech today. yay!
12:01:52 <JarnoO> congrats!
12:01:57 <Craig M> wooo!
12:02:00 <Betty> :thumbsup:
12:02:12 <JarnoO> I still have ≥7 weeks to go at minimum
12:02:22 <Craig M> Vaccine distribution is to the point where i'm taking walk ins
12:02:31 <Betty> I hope it gets faster, Jarno
12:02:38 <Craig M> if you lived near MN i could hook you up :)
12:02:50 <JarnoO> I wouldn't say no to that, Craig :)
12:03:08 <Betty> you need to movve, Jarno
12:03:08 <Craig M> I even have both flavors
12:03:20 <Betty> :-D
12:03:30 <JarnoO> Betty, I'm too attached to my province to even consider that
12:03:35 <Craig M> We're doing moderna for walk ins but pfizer/BionTech for appointment
12:03:46 <Betty> I can relate
12:04:14 <LindaGp> Be back in a minute
12:04:16 <JarnoO> to be fair, Drenthe could also work. Beautiful area. As is Limburg, actually
12:09:19 <Betty> splashy
12:12:27 <Betty> hi Jeff
12:12:39 <LindaGp> Back
12:12:40 <Jeff> hi Betty
12:12:52 <Jeff> welcome back LindaGp
12:13:17 <Craig M> Lion trying
12:13:57 <Craig M> LC
12:15:17 <LindaGp> hmm daisy soon
12:16:23 <JarnoO> Daisy ie
12:17:50 <JarnoO> hm, about 1h54/5m interval. If winds don't increase, today could be the first day of the season where Daisy is observed to go sub-1h50m
12:18:29 <JarnoO> bad timing though, as Fluffy has a high chance of getting in the way
12:20:16 <JarnoO> actually, OF won't be getting in the way for the upcoming one unless it does a short
12:22:14 <LindaGp> Jeff, hi
12:22:36 <Jeff> how are you doing today linda
12:23:20 <LindaGp> im good trying to stay on top of these geysers😊
12:23:47 <Jeff> yea there are days where that seems hard to do lol
12:24:34 <LindaGp> Always hard when bee is brewing 😊
12:25:07 <Jeff> im glad bee is starting to show off more this year so far lol
12:25:20 <BenVL> Hi Jerf
12:25:25 <BenVL> Jeff*
12:25:30 <Jeff> hi Ben
12:26:06 <JarnoO> Daisy's intervals are currently at the lowest since last season August-September
12:27:44 <JarnoO> this to me means there's a good chance Daisy will have nearly consistent sub-2h (and possibly sub-1h50m) intervals in August and September this year provided its intervals continue to drop
12:28:25 <JarnoO> which means it's then also back at its performance in the (late) 90s
12:28:43 <BenVL> But will it be short enough for Splendid
12:30:02 <BenVL> JarnoO, what were it's intervals in like '96 &'97
12:31:27 <JarnoO> good question. Splendid in 1997 erupted when Daisy had the occasional sub-90m interval. Intervals then sat at roughly 1h35m-40m average when the former wasn't in series
12:31:47 <JarnoO> in series it was anyone's game for trying to guess Daisy
12:32:18 <Betty> hi BenVL
12:32:35 <BenVL> If I understand correctly, there were false starts in 1996?
12:32:40 <BenVL> Hi Betty
12:32:42 <JarnoO> after Splendid had ended its series, Daisy needed a few hours to recover, so intervals over 3 hours weren't uncommon then
12:32:52 <JarnoO> yes on false starts in 1996
12:33:00 <JarnoO> but also in the years before
12:33:11 <BenVL> And what were the intervals then?
12:33:52 <JarnoO> 1h40m to 2h-ish
12:33:59 <BenVL> Okay
12:34:33 <BenVL> So we're just slightly longer than that now
12:34:53 <JarnoO> pretty much
12:36:06 <JarnoO> ambitious, but if Daisy's intervals continue to drop during summer and we have sub-1h50m intervals (preferably close to 1h40m) we might see a false start this year. Else maybe next year and probably likely the year after
12:36:44 <JarnoO> that is assuming Daisy continues on this downwards trend
12:37:10 <BenVL> I'll definitely still keep an eye on the post-Daisy activity when I can this year
12:38:33 <JarnoO> Daisy's duration is longer when it has short intervals (not your average geyser in that regard), so durations close to or over four minutes would be more than welcome
12:39:33 <JarnoO> of the few timed intervals, it appears an interval over 2h10m is now only sufficient for just 3 minutes. Last year that was about 2h20m
12:39:40 <JarnoO> timed durations*
12:39:49 <JarnoO> eruptions*
12:40:38 <JarnoO> so I wonder if there's an upper limit to Daisy's intervals, in that it [i]has[/i] to go regardless of conditions
12:40:59 <BenVL> And that is preceeding interval to duration, or duration to prefeeding interval
12:41:18 <BenVL> Duration to following int*
12:41:26 <JarnoO> the shorter the interval, the longer the duration
12:42:19 <BenVL> Gotchya
12:42:45 <LindaGp> OF soon hope bee holds off
12:43:21 <JarnoO> I'm not quite yet certain of it, Ben, but after timing eruptions for a while when possible it's strongly pointing to that direction
12:44:53 <BenVL> Well, I'll be taking durations whenever I can when I watch Daisy so hopefully that can help
12:45:38 <JarnoO> it also seems everyone has their own way of timing Daisy - HK consistently has shorter durations than others, for example, even for the same eruption
12:46:11 <JarnoO> so that'll be interesting to get consensus on :)
12:46:29 <BenVL> I need to ask him how he defines it
12:47:41 <LindaGp> Oh a couple of doggies
12:48:22 <JarnoO> from webcam there is the difficulty of trees, so I can only time ± a few seconds (from first inferrable eruptive plume to the final one). Of help is that Daisy virtually always puts out a large "poof" near the end of an eruption
12:49:55 <BenVL> I know that, for example, Lynn has a different way of timing Fountain that results in a shorter duration by 30 seconds or so
12:51:19 <JarnoO> not to forget Great Fountain. Steamboat's duration was also a thing early in the active phase, but that seems to largely be evened out
12:51:20 <BenVL> I changed to time it her way for consistency sake and since she is an expert on that group
12:52:10 <BenVL> Well, SB duration is highly variable and I don't think it has an effect on anything
12:52:41 <JarnoO> true, but I recall some timed it when SV went to steam, while others did it for NV
12:53:14 <BenVL> Duration of NV is the standard per Suzanne, so 75% of the variance is based on wind direction
12:53:15 <AYates> I log both times and end duration when the latter goes to steam
12:53:45 <BenVL> Even duration of SV can be tricky tho
12:54:30 <AYates> And I take a lot of notes, because I've seen it go to water/steam mix and back to water mid-eruption
12:54:33 <BenVL> It can have a little wispy stream on the far right part of the vent (from the platform) less than 30 feet high for a very long time
12:56:11 <JarnoO> except for Lion I tend to hold an OF-style duration, so until the very last water of an eruption. Apparantly for Bee it's (also) timed until continuous water stops
12:56:56 <JarnoO> while Bee can still do discontinuous water for a few seconds (and that sometimes makes the difference between 4m58s and 5m05s :P)
12:57:05 <AYates> I'm not sure when a spa eruption actually starts
12:57:33 <AYates> Because it's such a judgement call
12:57:45 <BenVL> Good point there
12:58:07 <AYates> Part of me feels the start should be when all three vents are active, even before there is water
12:58:21 <AYates> up water that is
12:59:32 <JarnoO> that brings the question if all activity (even with bursting) without the three vents in a theoretical situation would still be called an eruption
12:59:43 <JarnoO> without all three vents*
13:00:36 <LindaGp> GEEZ Of
13:00:56 <LindaGp> .making us wait
13:01:16 <AYates> We have too much shorthand for too many instances - like if I saw a burst out of spa without all vents active, I may log it as a minor
13:01:46 <AYates> I'm not sure that's relevant as I don't think it happens regularly enough to note - if at all
13:01:55 <AYates> But it does raise interesting questions
13:03:06 <LindaGp> OF
13:03:37 <LindaGp> nice one
13:03:40 <JarnoO> that is the problem with trying to account for everything. Whirligig's actually such a "problem geyser" - do you call it a minor if it just pushes out water (optionally without main vent activity), a minor when it "just stops" after a short duration, a N/A or major when it does normal activity or a major above a certain duration?
13:05:35 <JarnoO> or does the amount of water drained matter?
13:06:15 <AYates> That information is useful however, I probably only spent 5-7 hours at Mugwump in total, and I learned a lot that doesn't translate into GT logs
13:08:29 <JarnoO> luckily we won't have to worry about the minor question. Only non-minors in the upcoming weeks due to another disturbance
13:08:33 <BenVL> AYates, that reminds me of "I apologize for my voiceover"
13:09:39 <BenVL> JarnoO, I'm hoping this is a smaller D
13:11:07 <JarnoO> 1302:59 long 3m59s
13:26:14 <JarnoO> Semisopochnoi orange/watch -> yellow/advisory
13:29:08 <BenVL> I want to get a no indicator
13:29:19 <JarnoO> Castle 1326
13:31:55 <JarnoO> nice spike
13:43:08 <JarnoO> major
13:49:58 <LindaGp> Chooo chooo
13:51:53 <john> I am ready to sign in Linda!
13:52:06 <LindaGp> You can take it
13:52:34 <john> Okay, thanks!
13:52:56 <LindaGp> Controls relwased
13:53:07 <LindaGp> have fun, i leave you Bee
13:53:19 <Kevin 🚂> Maybe you will get a BH John
13:53:21 <john> It looks like you got everything already this Friday!
13:53:43 <LindaGp> Not bee though
13:53:45 <Craig M> decent boil or pixelation one of the two
13:54:18 <Greg (working)> Thanks for driving Linda, great job as always.
13:54:28 <linda> Greg (working), thanks
13:54:43 <JarnoO> sigh... Still no logger data
13:54:49 <linda> lashysp
13:54:57 <Betty> hi john, Greg (working), Kevin 🚂
13:54:58 <linda> yikes. splashy
13:55:17 <Kevin 🚂> Hi Betty
13:55:30 <Greg (working)> Hi Betty
13:55:31 <john> Hi Betty!
13:55:46 <Kevin 🚂> About time to get on the train again.
13:56:14 <Dave from B™> Which end are you riding in?
13:56:21 <LindaGp> Where ya going?
13:57:05 <BenVL> JarnoO, at least the Beverly's have some notes in
13:57:08 <Kevin 🚂> Boulder City to Railroad Pass and back
13:58:07 <Betty> great, have fun on your ride :-)
13:58:19 <LindaGp> Kevin 🚂, nice, how long does it take?
13:58:38 <BenVL> They have a few days to settle in before Bill starts at the store
13:58:41 <Kevin 🚂> About 45 minutes.
13:59:19 <JarnoO> Hope they enjoy those days, Ben
13:59:55 <Greg (working)> Kevin, have a blast
14:00:39 <BenVL> I imagine they will
14:03:33 <Kevin 🚂> Pretty windy today. First time I had to use throttle 4 to get up the hill.
14:04:25 <Dave from B™> You're driving? Watch out for Falling rocks:)
14:04:32 <JarnoO> you driving with our phone behind the wheel? Tssk :) Good to hear you're having fun
14:04:53 <JarnoO> your*
14:05:19 <time for someth> It is not the falling rocks, The stationary ones are in trouble.
14:05:21 <Dave from B™> I highly recommend the Boulder Train Museum
14:06:08 <time for someth> Is that where they put the rocks Kevin has run over?
14:06:45 <Kevin 🚂> All we had was a big piece of styrofoam today.
14:07:11 <Dave from B™> haha...that is a different type of boulder
14:07:12 <time for someth> Hollywood Rocks?
14:14:23 <JarnoO> flower
14:14:45 <time for someth> easy for you to type
14:15:18 <JarnoO> keys are closer together than for 'Daisy'
14:15:58 <time for someth> Took a while for it to show up well.
14:15:58 <JarnoO> I could also start referring to it as 'flour' :)
14:16:32 <JarnoO> Aurum 1412:39 1m24s
14:22:36 <time for someth> Look at those speeders.
14:32:46 <AB> so is it a bison that everyone on the boardwalk is crowding?
14:36:08 <Dave from B™> Just a really hairy guy
14:41:43 <Betty> OF ie
15:13:37 <Eric> Bulger
15:13:52 <Eric> is hole ie?
15:14:15 <Craig M> need a closer zoom. i don't think so though
15:14:18 <JarnoO> no
15:16:39 <Dave from B™> Katie, are you here?
15:17:40 <Dave from B™> A legendary bar in Butte burned down today:(
15:19:15 <Eric> That is a bummer
15:24:04 <Dave from B™> They are trying hard to save the iconic neon sign
15:24:33 <Dave from B™> This was ground zero for the famous St. Patrick's Day parties
15:28:29 <Eric> I didn't know that Butte had a large irish population.
15:29:03 <Betty> headed out, night all
15:29:21 <Eric> Night Betty
15:29:25 <john> cya Betty! Good night
15:29:41 <JarnoO> night Betty
15:33:11 <Ryan> Dropping in to say that if you havent yet seen the iceland volcano webcam that the lighting is astounding right now. Lots of deep purples and big red fountains.
15:33:45 <KorbenC> Hey there R
15:35:01 <JarnoO> afternoon Ryan
15:35:08 <Ryan>]-R&c[0]=AT365SVIZtdlqPQw700nZy-3eJscTeKUrMC_LuhqUAxCjwH3NIzYHm7gnYQdhvkVf1q0ibgepJw3Xa8wICyKx9DU
15:35:18 <Ryan>]-R&c[0]=AT365SVIZtdlqPQw700nZy-3eJscTeKUrMC_LuhqUAxCjwH3NIzYHm7gnYQdhvkVf1q0ibgepJw3Xa8wICyKx9DU
15:35:21 <Ryan> What....
15:35:32 <Ryan>
15:35:51 <Ryan> There we go. Its having fountaining events of easily 500ft or more every few minutes.
15:35:54 <KorbenC> Ryan, how have you been?
15:37:05 <Ryan> About as shitty as I ever thought I could be. *shrugs shoulders*
15:37:27 <KorbenC> :( Hopefully things get better.
15:37:38 <Ryan> Heading back out. Enjoy the light show. Its quite a jaw dropper when it gets going. Im green with envy, I have caver friends watching it over there.
15:37:49 <JarnoO> have you been caving recently?
15:37:52 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Thanks Ryan
15:38:00 <Ryan> Thanks for asking, KC. Hope all is well with you and the rest of the gazers here.
15:38:36 <Ryan> JO, it was hard, we had a bad winter with 2+ft of snow in my yard for four months. Most cave entrances were under the snow. This summer promises to be far more productive.
15:38:50 <JarnoO> fingers crossed
15:38:51 <KorbenC> Ryan, until they revoke my privileges to climb, I will be well. :D
15:39:05 <KorbenC> Nice fountain now, looks like Aurum or maybe Lion starting
15:39:17 <Ryan> (Bad for caving, the 2ft of snow wasnt bad, it was walking through it to dig out the buried entrances that was the bad part)
15:39:43 <KorbenC> Ryan, I hope you were roped up incase you were standing on snow above air.
15:39:51 <Ryan> Not sure how tall the ridgeline is behind it, but I understand this fountaining to be pretty big.
15:40:21 <JarnoO> two to thrice the height of SB
15:40:34 <Ryan> Haha, been there done that! At least you fall into something warm... plus we know where the entrance is. Its getting the ice off the walls thats the problem
15:40:48 <JarnoO> there was even one which did about 4½ of that
15:41:02 <KorbenC> Ryan, did you use iceaxes?
15:41:17 <Ryan> Then you walk back to the cars muddy and wet in the snow. No, KC, I just used a rock.
15:41:40 <Ryan> Much lighter since I dont have to carry it.
15:41:46 <Eric> Hi Ryan!
15:42:11 <Ryan> Anywho, gotta head out. Saw that ungodly beautiful lighting in Iceland and had to give yall the heads up for it.
15:42:24 <JarnoO> thanks, cya later
15:42:49 <Eric> Dang, must have missed the light show :-(
15:48:25 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It does rewind Eric
15:50:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> All the rocks survived in Boulder City but a passenger lost a hat in the wind.
15:51:04 <KorbenC> Hi there Greg
15:51:16 <Greg 🤠> Howdy Korben
15:57:55 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Bet this was noisy:
16:00:07 <Eric> fountain geyser, but in red!
16:02:40 <john> Okay Greger ready to take control?
16:02:57 <Greg 🤠> sure thing my friend
16:03:21 <Ben VL> No Bee yet?
16:03:28 <john> released control
16:03:38 <john> no :bee:
16:03:40 <Greg 🤠> Thanks for driving John, great job
16:04:15 <john> LOL! Well the basin is going to blow up now! ;)
16:04:40 <Greg 🤠> NO.....
16:14:03 <Greg 🤠> of
16:18:25 <JarnoO> Daisy soon if it didn't go already
16:19:20 <Greg 🤠> nice delay in heading to Daisy
16:19:52 <JarnoO> Quiet. Went during the OF wait
16:20:11 <JarnoO> probably around the time of OF's eruption
16:20:19 <Greg 🤠> :thumbsup:
16:20:45 <JarnoO> next Daisy around 1810 or so
16:20:54 <JarnoO> probably a Daisy for Joe
16:21:46 <Greg 🤠> I am on till 2110
16:36:45 <Ben VL> man the pixels are bad
16:37:07 <KorbenC> Hi Ben
16:37:20 <Ben VL> Hi there Hello
16:41:01 <Ben VL> Is it this bad for everyone else?
16:41:44 <Greg 🤠> good here for me, a little shaky on the cam
17:10:04 <john> Pixelated... up and down... crazy webcam...
17:10:43 <JarnoO> must be a low bandwidth situation
17:17:12 <JarnoO> oh hi Grand
17:18:36 <Ben VL> not a very tall start
17:22:24 <JarnoO> D0/G--
17:22:38 <Ben VL> 36m into turban interval
17:23:26 <JarnoO> maybe that's why it wasn't so tall
17:24:13 <Ben VL> looks windy too
17:26:14 <JarnoO> overall looks like a weak Grand. Not even visible continued bursting there
17:29:23 <Greg 🤠> Looks like some are leaving
17:29:33 <JarnoO> D0/G1Q 10m06s
17:30:14 <JarnoO> so to add insult to injury, one, weak burst and V&T quit :)
17:31:22 <Joe Friday> Doesn't YNR seismo look noisier than usual right now?
17:32:33 <JarnoO> looks like human noise to me
17:33:34 <Joe Friday> I thought it looked thicker on the bottom line
17:34:46 <JarnoO> east entrance opened today. Probably traffic from East Entrance Rd. via Grand Loop and Norris Canyon to Norris
17:35:00 <JarnoO> maybe some campers or so
17:37:24 <JarnoO> I still find it amusing the Yellowstone NPS geyser activity page lists Baby Daisy among the regulars and big ones. Same for Oblong
17:48:27 <kc (working)> bh was 1743 per gt
17:48:31 <kc (working)> ns
17:48:40 <kc (working)> no indy per HK
17:48:55 <kc (working)> (until after start)
17:51:38 <JarnoO> darn
17:53:50 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Who was that who wanted a no Indy. :p
17:54:00 <Ben VL> me ;P
17:54:05 <Ben VL> lol
17:54:13 <JarnoO> and you got to see nothing of it
17:54:28 <Ben VL> like every time it has happened when I have been there
17:56:23 <Ben VL> at minimum I have seen 3 no-indicator bee's partway through
17:56:40 <Ben VL> and at least one more that I missed entirely
17:59:44 <Greg 🤠> of
18:09:58 <JarnoO> flower
18:10:23 <JarnoO> not bad for predicting a double interval: 16:20:45 ‹JarnoO› next Daisy around 1810 or so
18:10:44 <KorbenC> Not bad at all.
18:10:59 <Ben VL> nice pace too
18:11:25 <KorbenC> Likely 2 sub 2hr itnervals.
18:11:58 <JarnoO> that's what I'm thinking as well
18:12:05 <JarnoO> even with a good bit of wind
18:56:45 <JarnoO> YNM's up!
18:57:09 <Greg 🤠> ?
18:58:07 <JarnoO> darn, no logger data (yet) though
18:58:33 <ChrisO> what was going on?
18:59:41 <JarnoO> some outage at Norris meant there wasn't any seismic data from YNM nor from the loggers there, just as things started to happen
19:07:50 <ChrisO> doggie :)
19:08:55 <ChrisO> keep walking lol
19:09:12 <linda> nice doggie
19:11:48 <linda> look at all those buffalo patties
19:12:06 <ChrisO> fertilizer for new grub for them to eat :)
19:34:14 <Greg 🤠> of
19:41:14 <Greg 🤠> Dust up
19:43:15 <JarnoO> doggies having fun
19:43:26 <Greg 🤠> :thumbsup:
19:44:31 <JarnoO> hm, Norris loggers need to be revived by the looks of it. Darn
19:48:08 <JarnoO> nice sign. If only you could read what's on it
19:48:57 <JarnoO> Giantess looks quite below overflow there - clear ledge visible
19:49:21 <JarnoO> first time I've actually seen that far through the plume, maybe it's normal?
20:07:08 <JarnoO> flower
20:08:05 <Greg 🤠> You must have some great internet Jarno
20:11:02 <JarnoO> I'm watching the RTMP stream (≤10s delay, I recall about 5-7s or so). The one on this page is HLS and delayed by ≥30s
20:11:26 <Greg 🤠> :thumbsup:
20:11:34 <KorbenC> But Greg is controlling the cam? So JO and I are ahead of Greg still?
20:13:01 <JarnoO> that would break time physics, Korben, so no
20:13:18 <Greg 🤠> I saw Daisy and went to press daisy and Jarno entered it. It was close
20:13:21 <JarnoO> unless Greg's image in the cam controls is delayed
20:13:25 <KorbenC> ah
20:13:40 <KorbenC> I thought you were commening on how far ahead of oyu he is. My appolgoies.
20:13:45 <KorbenC> appleagies*
20:13:54 <KorbenC> apologies*
20:14:09 <JarnoO> how are your English grades, Korben? :)
20:14:24 <Greg 🤠> >(
20:14:29 <KorbenC> JarnoO, one sec...
20:15:07 <KorbenC> Semester Grade: 114.31% l Final Exam: 100.00%
20:16:21 <JarnoO> ehh... How do you get >100%?
20:17:16 <ChrisO> same way i got a 210/200 on my Volcanologist paper in 9th grade...extra credit :)
20:17:29 <KorbenC> You can get up to 100% of the exam. But 1) If you do really well on an assignment and the teacher wants to "keep it as an example" they will likely throw in a few extra points, or 2) If you do extra work outside of class they sometimes give you some more points
20:17:55 <KorbenC> Oi, I hope he fell of the bw
20:18:18 <Greg 🤠> Or you bring the teacher brownies and lottery tickets
20:18:23 <KorbenC> Greg 🤠, lol.
20:18:52 <KorbenC> My Science and Engineering Grades have maxed out the system Jarno. Apparently they updated it so you can't get 1000% so they are stuck at 999.99% :D
20:19:43 <JarnoO> here they don't do that. You get 10/10 at maximum and the teacher's compliments. Occasionally teachers do give extra points on top of the grade you're given, but they don't go higher than 10
20:20:22 <KorbenC> JarnoO, we have points and weightest systems at my school. So a small assigment is worth a few points, but big projects can be worth easily 100pts.
20:20:49 <KorbenC> And they also separate sections, so homework is 10% of your grade, classwork is 40% of your grade, tests are 50% of your grade, ect.
20:21:36 <JarnoO> ah, like so. The whole grade here is something out of 10. Individual assignments work with a point system. These points are then converted with a formula to x out of 10
20:23:04 <KorbenC> We have % systems, and then those correlate to grades, like A, B, C, ect. Then they give you a certain amount of "credits points" for each class, so in a regular class an A is 4.00, and a B is 3.00. But in honors classes an A is 5.00 and a B is 4.00, and then those calculate the GPA.
20:23:19 <KorbenC> Wow, this is the first time I have understood how complicated American grading systems are, lol.
20:23:36 <JarnoO> languages like Dutch and English tend to work with an exponential, meaning you can get insufficient if you make 5 mistakes for a test where you have to write 100 words correctly
20:24:47 <KorbenC> That's interesting, here if I get 5 words wrong out of 100 in my French class I get at 95%, but if I get >10 words wrong I get a 75%. If I get >25 words wrong I get 50%, ect.
20:25:41 <KorbenC> Its a very weird curve that is pretty much an exponential equation stretched horizontally by a factor of 5.
20:26:04 <JarnoO> also, a 5 out of 10 is insufficient here. You have to get at least a 5.5 out of 10 for a sufficient
20:26:27 <KorbenC> Do you have a letter grade system, like A's B's ect?
20:26:30 <JarnoO> or, as it's also known, a "student's 10"
20:26:33 <Greg 🤠> oh!
20:28:11 <Greg 🤠> Did not faze them at all
20:28:36 <JarnoO> Korben, no. Some subject I had worked with "Insufficient" (O), "Sufficient" (V) and "Good" (G), where O is equal to a 4, V to a 6 (or 7) and G to an 9
20:28:46 <ChrisO> they are to busy grubbin :)
20:28:49 <JarnoO> definitely not something like A to F
20:29:00 <Greg 🤠> :thumbsup:
20:29:14 <KorbenC> So then do you have a Grade Point Average where a 5.5 is sufficient (equivalent to an American C)
20:30:11 <JarnoO> yes, 5.5 on average for a subject to be considered sufficient for a whole school year
20:31:41 <KorbenC> Do you guys have "honors" classes then? and if so, are they worth *more* than a regular class like they are here?
20:32:06 <JarnoO> but to complicate things, tests can count for 1×, 2×, 3× or higher, depending on how much material from a subject within that class is considered to be important for the next subject at hand. Those can really screw you over
20:32:30 <KorbenC> ah yes, the dreaded multiplier.
20:33:09 <KorbenC> Takes out so many students, because here final exams are worth 4x, so if you fail one of those your grade at max can be a 75%
20:34:12 <JarnoO> we do have honours classes here, but other than a mention on your diploma they're not much worth. Maybe useful for university or as an extra skill, but otherwise. And even if you take an extra class in highschool you probably won't be doing much with it unless you choose a study which needs that subject
20:34:34 <JarnoO> it's a good CV filler
20:34:47 <KorbenC> makes sense.
20:35:11 <KorbenC> So at your university there is little point to taking honors classes? Or do they make employers consider your for employment more.
20:35:53 <JarnoO> depends on where you wish to be employed - some take more value for extra skills than others
20:36:47 <KorbenC> Probably a good idea to take them then, gives you a comparative advantage.
20:37:02 <JarnoO> but overall what I'm sensing is the classic Dutch "Act normal, as you're weird enough even then"
20:37:35 <KorbenC> lol
20:39:24 <KorbenC> Government question for you JO, does your federal government on provincial government manage the education?
20:41:00 <JarnoO> we don't have a federal government - it's a decentralized unitary state government
20:41:03 <KorbenC> Riverside
20:41:32 <JarnoO> but to answer your question - the Dutch government regulates education
20:42:15 <KorbenC> JarnoO, oh nice, one of my favorite types of government.
20:44:30 <JarnoO> oh, and I forgot to add that it's also a constitutional monarchy - so every law has to be signed by the monarch (but he can refuse to sign (a veto in the US) at which point it has to go through I recall both chambers for that to be overruled, but it won't have his signature below the law)
20:45:22 <KorbenC> Checks and Balances are amazing, lol.
20:46:07 <KorbenC> Anyways, (good morning?) Jarno always nice talking to you. Night all.
20:46:25 <JarnoO> night Korben
20:46:32 <Greg 🤠> Night Korben
20:47:12 <JarnoO> but the king has indicated that he'll sign every law ("It's the will of the people"), even if it's for the monarchy to be abolished
21:14:12 <Greg 🤠> The sun has set in that magical place we call Parkadise. Have a great evening and keep smiling.
21:14:28 <Greg 🤠> Thanks for tagging along. The controls have been released.