05:33:57
<KorbenC> Oh nice, Lion :)
05:47:39
<2> Riverside
05:56:42
<2> BHI
05:56:43
<2> .
05:56:43
<2> .
05:56:44
<2> .
05:56:44
<2> .
05:57:03
<KorbenC> AWESOME
05:58:11
<2> text sent
05:58:30
<KorbenC> Thanks Joe
05:59:21
<Linda> Nice, thx for txt
05:59:32
<KorbenC> Morning Linda
06:01:13
<Linda> KorbenC, hi
06:01:25
<KorbenC> I see you got the text this time Linda
06:02:01
<Too early> What will Emily B do today? BH before she arrives.
06:02:17
<Too early> 2 texts received now
06:02:22
<KorbenC> Hi lljm
06:02:33
<Linda> KorbenC, yeah, weird,
06:02:58
<Linda> KorbenC, I got two now
06:03:01
<2> I did not get first so I sent second
06:03:15
<Linda> 😊
06:03:36
<Linda> The more the merrier
06:03:37
<Too early> It will catch up with you later!
06:04:16
<2> Gazers have arrived!!
06:04:50
<Too early> I must be on delay
06:05:31
<2> Not gazers moving on :(
06:05:54
<Linda> No, come back
06:08:09
<2> Lets get up early and see geysers, aw thats just a little one lets move on....
06:08:58
<2> another 'gazer'?
06:09:02
<Linda> 😄
06:09:13
<KorbenC> looks like it
06:09:29
<Rice> We forget that your average visitor, has no idea what geyser they are looking at, and what it can do.
06:10:53
<KorbenC> :bee:
06:10:55
<2> IThe BEE
06:11:05
<Rice> My first trip with my parents we would have stood there and been that one is neat, now what is down the boardwalk farther.
06:11:13
<JarnoO> ok fine, Beehive
06:13:44
<Linda> Pretty
06:15:11
<2> Bee brought to you by the "Hog"
06:15:27
<KorbenC> Hi Jarno.
06:15:47
<JarnoO> morning all
06:16:37
<Linda> 2, 😃
06:20:16
<KorbenC> Jarno must not like geysers.
06:20:42
<Linda> 🤨
06:23:06
<KorbenC> Has that area well behind Aurum always been splashing like that?
06:45:26
<Kat> I have no internet right this moment. Working on it!
06:45:36
<KorbenC> Morning Kat
06:59:26
<Kat 😎> Yay
07:00:00
<Kat 😎> Good morning all! Internet back!
07:02:26
<2> Great Daisy in ten minutes
07:03:25
<2> Lion anytime :)
07:04:34
<Kat 😎> thx Joe
07:05:15
<2> Jim S got lion
07:05:40
<2> actuallu William
07:05:59
<2> actually **
07:06:21
<Kat 😎> :)
07:07:13
<2> Have a great day?? gtg
07:08:12
<2> ?? should be !!
07:08:27
<KorbenC> THat makes more sense :)
07:13:28
<KorbenC> Bulger
07:13:28
<Kat 😎> Bulger ie
07:13:30
<KorbenC> Hi Dave
07:14:11
<Kat 😎> Morning Dave
07:14:22
<Dave from B™> Morning!!
07:15:16
<Kat 😎> So green - what a change from just a few weeks ago!
07:19:19
<KorbenC> Hmm, the 0712 and 0716 Bulgers did not combine
07:20:47
<Kat 😎> Strange - definitely ie at 0712
07:21:00
<KorbenC> yup
07:21:09
<Kat 😎> :)
07:21:28
<KorbenC> The GT gods need to smush those entries together
07:21:45
<Kat 😎> KorbenC, hahaha
07:29:06
<KorbenC> :daisy:
07:34:23
<KorbenC> Giantess having some steamy runoff
07:35:03
<Kat 😎> Bulger ie
07:38:22
<Kat 😎> These pixels need to go!
07:42:47
<KorbenC> Hopefully the geysers are not erupting cubes of water in person.
07:45:42
<Kat 😎> :)
07:57:54
<KorbenC> Nice Grand
08:02:54
<Kat 😎> Excellent!
08:04:05
<Kat 😎> I so enjoyed Grand while I was there!
08:04:30
<KorbenC> Did Jim do his classic "waves on grand" call?
08:09:27
<Forestbewithyou> Morning all
08:09:30
<KorbenC> Hi FOrest
08:09:35
<KorbenC> T-10! Yea!
08:09:48
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Korben. I can tell your getting excited :)
08:10:10
<KorbenC> And you aren't? :P
08:10:33
<Forestbewithyou> Fair point
08:10:51
<KorbenC> So, you arrive on the morning of the 20th into the UGB?
08:11:06
<Forestbewithyou> No. Due to a grad party we will be arriving late on the 20th
08:11:16
<KorbenC> :thumbsup::(
08:11:27
<KorbenC> Hopefully you enjoy your Grad party though
08:11:31
<Forestbewithyou> Not sure exactly when but I would say 5
08:11:34
<Forestbewithyou> Oh its not for me
08:11:41
<Forestbewithyou> Its for one of my mom's students
08:11:58
<KorbenC> Oh, is it sad I want to say "sorry"?
08:12:17
<Forestbewithyou> Nope, No need to be sorry
08:12:26
<KorbenC> :)
08:12:55
<Forestbewithyou> Yea so later on the 20th
08:13:13
<KorbenC> I will be leaving Dubois at like 4AM on the 20th, quick stop in GT and West Thumb puts met at the UGB from 8-9AM :)
08:13:18
<KorbenC> Nice Improbable Burst
08:13:29
<Forestbewithyou> Nice
08:13:36
<Dave from B™> Why 4 am?
08:13:47
<KorbenC> Dave, so we can get to YNP earlier
08:15:00
<KorbenC> and I am used to leaving at 2AM to get places for mountain climbing, so 4AM will feel late.
08:24:57
<Kat 😎> Hi kevin
08:27:19
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Morning. Not many geysers left for me today.
08:27:39
<KorbenC> Giantess is still available.
08:28:53
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Aurum too.
08:29:16
<KorbenC> Yes it might erupt, just not while you are here :P
08:29:47
<Katie> I'm gonna try to steal a couple
08:30:18
<Jeff> When I get off work today I'll head up to the hill to try and wake up aurum lol
08:31:25
<Kat 😎> Thx Jeff
08:32:00
<Kat 😎> Kevin L™ 🌵, are you on?
08:32:39
<Katie> I'm scheduled - but having trouble logging on
08:32:48
<Katie> There it goes...
08:33:12
<Kat 😎> Great!
09:25:55
<KorbenC> HOKLE
09:25:56
<KorbenC> .
09:25:56
<KorbenC> .
09:25:56
<KorbenC> .
09:25:56
<KorbenC> .
09:26:29
<KorbenC> Yay, Graham caught bulgers hole!
09:26:45
<Forestbewithyou> YEA
09:27:28
<KorbenC> Bulgers Hole is such a fun little geyser, with its chugging along sound :)
09:27:37
<Forestbewithyou> Yea it is
09:36:33
<Katie> Castle
09:36:40
<kc (working)> castle
09:53:36
<KorbenC> Morning Eric
09:54:04
<Eric> Hi Korben
09:54:09
<Eric> Morning everyone
09:54:13
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Eric
09:54:18
<Eric> Hi Forest
09:54:38
<Eric> ohh, lights on at the new North entrance buildings!
09:55:31
<Eric> woops, we missed the last OF on GT
09:55:52
<Dave from B™> Eric, were you a construction guy in a former life?:D
09:56:30
<Eric> OF ns 840
09:56:51
<Eric> No, but engineers love construction!
09:56:57
<Eric> We love building things
09:57:06
<Eric> and watching things being built
09:57:57
<Eric> I have been watching the boca chica spaceX launch platform being built over the last few weeks, very cool stuff.
09:58:58
<Eric> Very large crane being brought up right now there! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTA0GTgFn5E
09:59:47
<Eric> Getting ready to lift the 4th segment of the Orbital Launch Tower.
10:00:41
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Looks like it is that time.
10:05:29
<KorbenC> Graham is having a good morning of gazing
10:06:52
<KorbenC> Old Faithful Window per NPS prediction.
10:07:10
<Katie> KorbenC, thanks for the poke. :)
10:08:23
<KorbenC> Katie, :thumbsup: yw
10:08:23
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I think that poke was directed to me Katie.
10:08:58
<KorbenC> Kevin L™ 🌵, isn't Katie running the cam??
10:09:13
<Dave from B™> Graham is always a good person to stalk when you are in the basin
10:09:21
<Kevin L™ 🌵> My shift now.
10:09:21
<KorbenC> Fluffy
10:09:33
<KorbenC> nope
10:09:37
<KorbenC> Dave, and JimS
10:10:14
<Katie> I wasn't watching the clock, either, so had not logged out, yet and hit preset when Korben poked. But now I HAVE logged out.
10:11:01
<KorbenC> At least I can rest assured Aurum won't erupt in the next few hours while I am out :) Kevin is here!
10:11:13
<Kevin L™ 🌵> NP. It was giving me a problem anyway. Kicked me off about 5 times yesterday. :p
10:13:09
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I think Eric is a crane man Dave. BTW Congrats on advancing.
10:14:07
<Dave from B™> Thanks!:) I'm afraid of Lightning.
10:14:49
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It can strike twice.
10:15:47
<KorbenC> Kevin L™ 🌵, isn't my hockey team playing yours again tonight?
10:16:40
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It depends on which Knights team shows up.
10:21:02
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Sometimes NBCsn shows the pregame show. If they do it is worth watching. They also have a great singer for the National Anthem.
10:21:36
<KorbenC> My snow filled hockey team cant infect you with cancer through the TV?
10:22:23
<Kevin L™ 🌵> When you play n ie I don't think snow matters
10:22:40
<KorbenC> lol, true
10:25:13
<Kevin L™ 🌵> 5 years ago if you told me hockey would be the first major professional sport in Vegas I would have laughed my head off. We also host some curling championships too!
10:25:23
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Finally OF.
11:02:32
<KorbenC> Hi Jimbo
11:02:45
<Jimbo Says Hell> Hi Korben
11:03:17
<Jimbo Says Hell> Professional curling, Kevin L.? Do they give the winners a $100 casino starter chip?
11:04:45
<Jimbo Says Hell> (I say this knowing that there are touring curling teams. Our local curling house hosted a team from Scotland.
11:05:05
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Pretty much a Canadian sport. They like Las Vegas in January.
11:16:04
<Eric> Looks like West entrance is a mess again!
11:16:26
<KorbenC> and I think it is only going to get worse
11:18:22
<Kevin L™ 🌵> They need a crane there.
11:19:03
<Eric> I do love cranes :-D
11:19:44
<Eric> So many big toys! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVDUmtGyBd4
11:20:38
<Eric> FYI, that steel lattice tower is about 200ft tall so far to help you get scale.
11:22:04
<Kevin L™ 🌵> You would like this one: https://nnry.com/documents/throttle/throttle081905.php
11:22:13
<Eric> The last segment of the tower will be a gigantic crane they are adding to the top of the tower at over 500ft tall!
11:22:53
<Eric> That is cool Kevin! Steam powered wrecking crane.
11:29:28
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv18IbQjs3k&ab_channel=airailimagesairailimages
11:49:06
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Is that Riverside back there?
11:52:27
<KorbenC1> Forest, are you here?
11:56:22
<Kevin L™ 🌵> run this from timestamp 17:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehuO-yyogAA&ab_channel=Vi%C3%B0bur%C3%B0astofaVestfjar%C3%B0aVi%C3%B0bur%C3%B0astofaVestfjar%C3%B0a
12:05:25
<Dave from B™> OMG, I finally found something that went down in price!
12:05:59
<KorbenC1> Dave from B™, what is it?
12:08:03
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Not lumber
12:08:11
<Dave from B™> My Workers Comp rates!
12:08:18
<Dave from B™> About 15%:):):)
12:08:30
<KorbenC1> lol
12:08:35
<Dave from B™> Knock on wood....no injuries in 3 years
12:08:45
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Must be an error.
12:08:56
<KorbenC1> Thats good.
12:09:05
<Dave from B™> That's an extra $2K in my pocket:)
12:09:40
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Pay for 1/2 of the price of gas so far this year.
12:13:33
<Dave from B™> Except for last year, gas is normally this price in the summer; at least 5 of the last 6 years)
12:14:22
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Up $1.20 a gallon here since January.
12:28:17
<Eric> Gas prices on the West coast are cheap!
12:28:55
<Eric> Housing starts are the best since 2016 and people wonder why lumber is up. pandemic plus that is pretty tough.
12:29:36
<Dave from B™> Bozeman median sales price on house is now over $700,000.
12:29:40
<Eric> Things could be much worse coming out of a year of lockdowns! Fingers cross the supply chains catch up.
12:29:55
<Eric> No way would I buy a house this year.
12:30:16
<Dave from B™> Supply chain in my business is chaotic
12:30:30
<Eric> Now sell a house, that is a different matter...been thinking about selling mine and go live in a cabana for a year :-P
12:30:47
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Blocking Canadian lumber is the biggest reason.
12:30:56
<Eric> Buy again when everything is settled down.
12:31:29
<Kevin L™ 🌵> For sure.
12:31:34
<Dave from B™> Most likely, that will be in 2023 or 2024
12:32:18
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Look for a crash in prices in the next year or so.
12:32:28
<Eric> No canadian lumber is blocked, but trumps 20% tariffs have been knocked down to help.
12:33:22
<Eric> I don't think trees are the issue...I drive by mile high piles of them around here. It's putting them into sticks that is WAY backed up with housing starts jumping through the roof.
12:34:01
<Eric> Also I see so much plywood sitting in yards around here...no idea how there can be a shortage.
12:34:18
<Eric> literally acres of the stuff stacked 20ft deep.
12:35:01
<Eric> I guess we are in a good spot for it...but dang, crazy the disconnect
12:36:44
<Dave from B™> Production labor shortages, container shortages, port delays are big issues for imports as well
12:37:19
<Eric> No problem shipping raw logs out though...I see them leaving by the container load to china
12:37:42
<Eric> Less duty tax on those raw logs then lumber.
12:37:56
<Dave from B™> The shortage in containers is mostly from Asia to US
12:37:57
<Eric> It's all pretty complex stuff.
12:39:04
<Eric> This is one huge crane! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTA0GTgFn5E
12:39:55
<Kevin L™ 🌵> https://www.3000toys.com/WSI-Model-Liebherr-LTM-1750-9-Axle-Mobile-Crane/sku/wsi54-2008?gclid=Cj0KCQjw8IaGBhCHARIsAGIRRYqA4pX9wqiwFaFRNYjOpDf-Z0FsPs9yUSWkcUEpwv2fZ1NSw_yk93YaAqMuEALw_wcB
12:53:11
<Kevin L™ 🌵> This shoul help... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-us-seeks-to-double-tariff-rates-against-most-canadian-softwood-lumber/
12:54:07
<Kevin L™ 🌵> And a toy for Eric: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvqAqhZ-ijg&ab_channel=RCMEDIAWORLD
12:58:09
<Eric> The commerce department is trying to do that because Canadian government is apparently subsidizing their tree harvests to make them anti-competitive with US foresters. But I don't think anyone in the current administration has interest in this right now.
12:59:01
<Eric> Trump had it at 20% for a couple years which shrank our supply, it got knocked down to 8% in December.
12:59:53
<Eric> I do like those toys Kevin :-D
13:00:10
<Kevin L™ 🌵> That is a pretty cool one.
13:00:38
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I don't even want to know what it costs.
13:00:47
<Eric> Wow...those are some really cool RC trucks with hydraulics!
13:02:05
<Eric> My uncle use to be super into the RC airplane stuff. Building some AMAZING airplanes over the years. For his profession he was a high end house designer and would build scale models of peoples new houses so they could get a feel for them before actually building.
13:02:09
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I have seen a few of those but not as big. Mostly backhoes and dozers.
13:02:35
<Eric> Before the whole computer 3d modeling stuff was ever a thing
13:03:07
<Eric> Alright, lunchtime...enjoy BH!
13:03:15
<Kevin L™ 🌵> They used to have the Quarterscale Airplane show on Dry Lake here. Incredible planes. People came from all over the world for it.
13:03:35
<Eric> Yes, he would make trips down there almost every year.
13:03:48
<Eric> He was seriously into his hobby :-D
13:04:27
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I may have met him. I talked to most of the people there, and they did like to talk about their airplanes!
13:04:47
<Kevin L™ 🌵> My favorite was the flying wing.
13:46:49
<Kevin L™ 🌵> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
13:54:43
<KorbenC1> Finally OF
13:56:23
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I was begining to wonder.
13:59:32
<KorbenC1> I thought it was pulling an Aurum
14:02:10
<Dave from B™> KorbenC1, I need a Billings area weather update. Chance for heavy winds damaging hail. How are things looking?
14:19:46
<KorbenC1> Dave, osrry, are u still here?
14:20:53
<Dave from B™> yep. Still working hard
14:21:33
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Hard work to raise prices.
14:21:47
<KorbenC1> You should avoid most of the severe weather, I would say less than 5% chance for Tornado, Wind or Hail
14:21:56
<Dave from B™> Thanks Korben
14:22:03
<KorbenC1> :thumbsup:
14:22:38
<Dave from B™> Getting hard to source products. I'm spending twice as much time buying as normal.
14:22:49
<KorbenC1> :(
14:23:07
<KorbenC1> Hi kiawe, thanks for the beehive sacrifice yesterday.
14:23:24
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I'll bet. Crab fishing has been interesting this season.
14:24:03
<KorbenC> Kevin, that one guy that lost the tip of his finger in the thingamajig, made my finger hurt just watching
14:24:27
<kiawe (at work)> @KevinL, back around the eclipse (2017) did you see the Starship One that came through Dubois?
14:24:32
<linda> snowing in the tetons
14:24:34
<KorbenC> Hi Linda
14:24:41
<linda> KorbenC, hi
14:24:42
<Dave from B™> I'm currently looking for a 24-26' replacement refrigerated truck because 16' truck is too small.
14:24:48
<kiawe (at work)> Murky weather all around.
14:25:10
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Didn't you just buy that?
14:25:26
<KorbenC> Kiawe, yes, it is 75F and sunny down here in CO (barfs)
14:25:46
<JarnoO> ....
14:25:54
<Dave from B™> About 2 years ago. I'm going to hold onto it. Maybe, opening a Bozeman branch in the next couple of years.
14:26:08
<KorbenC> HI Jarno, I knew that would drag you out of hiding :)
14:26:10
<Dave from B™> Just wholesale, no retail
14:26:25
<Kevin L™ 🌵> We have 115° forecast next week. Translate that to 118° + at my house.
14:26:36
<linda> Kevin L™ 🌵, yikes
14:26:42
<kiawe (at work)> *will not discuss HI weather* *ducks thrown tomato*
14:26:57
<Dave from B™> Chickens must be done laying ends for the summer
14:27:07
<linda> cooled off here, so mid 70s today
14:27:19
<JarnoO> Dave, perhaps rent that truck first and see if demand keeps up
14:28:04
<Dave from B™> Demand will keep up. 38% Growth in Bozeman. 15% growth in all other major MT cities
14:28:14
<JarnoO> that's nice
14:28:36
<Dave from B™> Montana population will double in 30-40 years....most of me doesn't like that
14:28:42
<KorbenC> JO, this is where I am going this weekend to escape the 80 degree heat :P https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/198289703_4372124566131283_7828813871085624960_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=b9115d&_nc_ohc=llDULQ4MvEMAX8wrP8K&_nc_ht=scontent.fapa1-2.fna&oh=9edef4d4a2546048a27435d5046dfbc6&oe=60E8FAB5
14:28:49
<JarnoO> Two 16-footers is not an option I assume?
14:29:04
<Dave from B™> That means an extra driver
14:29:19
<kiawe (at work)> Double gas, etc.
14:30:09
<kiawe (at work)> Hot enough chickens are laying soft boiled eggs.
14:31:35
<JarnoO> though on the other hand, if the new truck breaks down, then you're not transporting anything. Especially with rising demand it can become a bit precarious. Just my thinking though - usually is in the direction of "better safe than sorry"
14:32:00
<JarnoO> I'm not the one running your business, though :)
14:32:22
<kiawe (at work)> Presumably the numbers have been run and this is the best option.
14:32:54
<JarnoO> true that
14:35:17
<Dave from B™> New truck should have probably happened 6 months ago but my conservative nature gets in the way
14:35:58
<yay rain> no OF for 4 hours? Is GT down?
14:36:10
<JarnoO> not logged
14:36:26
<yay rain> no Turbans since 147
14:36:29
<yay rain> 1347
14:36:35
<kiawe (at work)> For interested parties, there has been a cluster of tiny earthquakes along the SE rift zone on Mauna Loa, close to the shore.
14:36:59
<yay rain> it looks windy in the basin
14:37:19
<JarnoO> Kiawe, you mean at around Pahala?
14:37:22
<kiawe (at work)> Camera is bouncing.
14:37:49
<kiawe (at work)> Yep.
14:38:19
<kiawe (at work)> Nothing significant, but the volcano never sleeps.
14:38:24
<JarnoO> ah, that area has been shaking ever since the 2018 LERZ eruption
14:39:19
<Dave from B™> This place is awesome!
14:39:20
<Dave from B™> Punalu'u Bake Shop
14:39:27
<kiawe (at work)> Best guess is refilling and shifting of lava in various chambers.
14:40:32
<kiawe (at work)> Best memory last time I was on the Big Island is going on a lava boat tour, and stopping at Zippy's for dinner on the way home.
14:41:08
<JarnoO> that area's seismicity is something different: https://www.usgs.gov/center-news/volcano-watch-new-research-sheds-light-recent-p-hala-earthquake-swarms
14:42:44
<Dave from B™> kiawe (at work), I thought you lived in HI
14:42:45
<kiawe (at work)> Yes! I just saw that article as you were posting it.
14:43:09
<kiawe (at work)> I do, but I'm on Maui, not the Big Island where most of the action is :D
14:44:00
<Eric> Love Maui!
14:44:07
<Eric> Such a nice island
14:44:09
<Dave from B™> I loved watching the turtles at Paia
14:44:11
<JarnoO> they're also too deep to be associated with any of the volcanoes directly. You'd be looking just below sealevel for most
14:44:53
<kiawe (at work)> I'm a volcano voyeur. Most of the science I see is from the tame astrophysicist I deal with from Haleakala.
14:45:33
<JarnoO> Haleakala eruption would be fun ;)
14:45:36
<kiawe (at work)> Haleakala hasn't burped for several hundred years, although classified 'dormant'.
14:46:20
<kiawe (at work)> o_O Flee! I'd be worried if I lived around Hana.
14:46:40
<JarnoO> Mauna Kea hasn't erupted for about 4600 years and is also classified as dormant. They actually found magma bubbling beneath Kea recently
14:47:06
<JarnoO> so if anything, several hundred hears for a Hawaiian volcano is nothing
14:47:46
<JarnoO> years*
14:48:05
<kiawe (at work)> Technically, even Oahu cones could activate again, although unlikely.
14:48:40
<kiawe (at work)> *gives monitoring stations side-eye*
14:49:29
<JarnoO> for Kea's earthquakes: https://www.usgs.gov/center-news/volcano-watch-deep-repeating-earthquakes-beneath-mauna-kea
14:50:54
<KorbenC> Grand
14:51:09
<KorbenC> windy
14:51:55
<kiawe (at work)> Ugh -- camera buffering.
14:52:00
<JarnoO> for the time being it appears the Icelandic volcano now has a sustained lava lake, with variations in overflow. Almost like mini D/I episodes
14:52:16
<yay rain> I do not think there is any hope for them fixing this cam
14:52:44
<yay rain> such a downgrade
14:52:59
<Eric> Hi yay :-P
14:53:08
<kiawe (at work)> Did something happen with the upload capacity? It hasn't been the same since they fixed it after the winter.
14:53:14
<yay rain> make them listen to you Eric
14:53:21
<KorbenC> he tried
14:53:34
<Eric> Changed the cameras Kiawe and NPS employees have no idea how to configure it.
14:53:34
<JarnoO> all this cam's footage goes through a T1
14:53:54
<Eric> They cannot seem to set the resolution to a proper number.
14:54:02
<yay rain> it's crazy not one person there can deal with this
14:54:07
<kiawe (at work)> Is the camera the responsibility of an NPS employee?
14:54:28
<JarnoO> was, now it's Pixelcaster
14:54:33
<kiawe (at work)> Not the monitoring, the actual equipment
14:54:49
<Eric> Yes, it is a collaboration of the park and the foundation. Foundation pays for "stuff" and the park is responsible for the equipment, kind of.
14:55:02
<yay rain> a big KIND OF
14:55:22
<Eric> meaning nobody wants to take responsibility.
14:55:35
<kiawe (at work)> In otherwords, no one on site with the necessary technical chops
14:55:46
<kiawe (at work)> :(
14:56:30
<Eric> There might be...but it's government so "not my monkey, not my circus" prevails in most government work.
14:56:56
<JarnoO> I don't have much hope for the footage to improve until fiber arrives (or even Starlink, for that matter). The T1's bandwidth is too narrow to do anything useful with, nor is Yellowstone's network being at capacity. When it's not so busy in the park, the cam's footage is actually acceptable, otherwise it looks like a pixelly mess and a half
14:57:06
<kiawe (at work)> There is also the aspect that if you futz with it and break it, you catch all types of shibai.
14:57:08
<Eric> We had a ranger trying to get it fixed over the winter...go WAY above and beyond to try and make it happen.
14:57:59
<kiawe (at work)> Good on them...
14:58:32
<Eric> Some people really do care in the park....but I think there is all kinds of politics and issues that provide big hurdles.
14:58:33
<kiawe (at work)> WOuldn't laying fiber involve a lot of ditches and other things that are anathema to NPS?
14:59:15
<Eric> Yes, but the plan is to lay it in the roadway. Biggest issue is it will be privately owned and then rented back to the park.
14:59:30
<kiawe (at work)> Oh. Not so great, akshully.
14:59:48
<Eric> private company eats the up front cost mostly, but they profits on it long term.
14:59:59
<kiawe (at work)> If your local cable company is like others I know, that costs $$$$$$.
15:00:09
<Eric> exactly
15:00:32
<Eric> if you had a fiber/network monopoly in one of the largest parks in the world...I think you would be pretty happy :-D
15:00:42
<kiawe (at work)> Cha-ching!!
15:01:10
<Eric> But it might not be a monopoly with starlink satellite.
15:01:38
<kiawe (at work)> That might solve a lot of connectivity issues. No need fiber/cable/towers etc.
15:04:03
<7> You have to remember the camera used to give good 'pictures' and control with the same T1, t he not enough bandwidth is bullshit, and the radio on the is not a stumbling point.
15:04:31
<7> the roof***
15:04:55
<KorbenC> This cam is OK, alot better than no cam like we had for many months
15:05:14
<7> They need to go back to similar settings as in the past
15:05:52
<Eric> Yes they do...there is NO reason for this camera to be at 1280x720
15:06:11
<Eric> even reducing it to slightly lower resolution would give WAY better picture.
15:06:43
<Eric> 640x360 would be better than this!
15:08:23
<7> I really don't want to say, if you have a Gov't job in IT, it is because you did not qualify for an IT job elsewhere, I do not want to say that.
15:08:48
<KorbenC> *Korben deletes his comment asking if Jarno wants a Government IT Job*
15:09:15
<7> :)
15:12:01
<kiawe (at work)> GTG; changing of the guards. Fair winds!
15:12:49
<JarnoO> cya
15:13:17
<KorbenC> :daisy:
15:21:09
<7> Is there a new rule about *not* posting geysers as seen on cam today?/
15:21:27
<KorbenC> I have been very busy :)
15:21:45
<JarnoO> same here, need to prepare something else other than documents for tomorrow
15:22:02
<JarnoO> and thereafter I have to make even more documents
15:22:15
<JarnoO> will be a busy weekend, that's for sure
15:22:27
<KorbenC> JO, that sounds more fun than drivers ed! Right now they are teaching me the colors of stoplights, and they have been for the last 30 minutes.
15:22:36
<KorbenC> JO, are you going somewhere?
15:22:38
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I have done a few but not all of them.
15:22:51
<JarnoO> Korben, no, just making documents
15:22:59
<KorbenC> :thumbsup:
15:24:07
<Kevin L™ 🌵> You should see his book for study for a drivers license Korben. Big as a Sears catalog, uh phone book, uh, it's thick!
15:24:12
<JarnoO> teaching the colors of traffic lights... Is it more complicated than green = go (do look out for redrunners), orange = stop if you can and red = stop?
15:24:27
<KorbenC> No.
15:24:57
<KorbenC> I am 20ish hours through my 30 hours, I am yet to learn something I did not know
15:25:04
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Over here red means watch out for cars who think green means go!
15:25:05
<JarnoO> haha
15:25:34
<JarnoO> just don't be a donkey and hog the left lane
15:25:57
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I assume you have the red over yellow light still Jarno.
15:26:18
<JarnoO> you can actually be fined here for "keeping left unnecessarily"
15:26:33
<KorbenC> JO, they spend 15 minutes teaching us about what stop signs mean
15:26:37
<JarnoO> Kevin, yes. Red on top, yellow/orange in the middle and green below
15:26:58
<Kevin L™ 🌵> You can in Nevada too but the key word is "can".
15:27:25
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I mean just before it turns green Jarno.
15:27:32
<Betty> hi all
15:27:38
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Hi
15:27:42
<KorbenC> Hi Betty
15:27:45
<JarnoO> Kevin, nope, it's red to green here
15:27:54
<Betty> hi Kevin L™ 🌵, KorbenC, JarnoO
15:28:04
<JarnoO> I think Germany does show yellow before it turns green?
15:28:33
<Kevin L™ 🌵> When I was in Germany they did that so you could get your car in gear.
15:29:09
<JarnoO> evening Betty. We'll be facing each other on Saturday for the final of the European hockey championship men's
15:30:09
<JarnoO> My parents have mentioned a few times to bring the car in gear while waiting for a traffic light to turn green.
15:32:42
<Betty> red for stop, red+yellow for prepare to go, green for go, then only yellow for stop in a few seconds, then only red for stop
15:32:58
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It was interesting to drive in Europe.
15:33:17
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Good volcano link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehuO-yyogAA&ab_channel=Vi%C3%B0bur%C3%B0astofaVestfjar%C3%B0aVi%C3%B0bur%C3%B0astofaVestfjar%C3%B0a
15:35:49
<Betty> already 10 days since the last :sb:
15:35:59
<JarnoO> Korben, that 15 minutes' worth of stop sign class is pretty much useless here. We have 'shark teeth', which simply mean 'give way'. Stop signs are generally just treated as a type of 'give way' :)
15:38:32
<Kevin L™ 🌵> It was very easy to adapt to signs in Europe.
15:40:40
<JarnoO> and once you learn them you can use them pretty much everywhere in Europe (and a good portion of the whole world, actually) :)
15:41:57
<Kevin L™ 🌵> The are done very logically.
15:44:35
<Kevin L™ 🌵> This is the US version sign manual. I lived with, ate with, and slept with this for 32 years. https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/kno_2009r1r2.htm
15:48:34
<JarnoO> those 'Stop here for pedestrian' signs look like they come from a cartoon
15:51:25
<Kevin L™ 🌵> I like this one: https://www.roadtrafficsigns.com/caution-falling-cows-funny-road-sign/sku-k-9916
15:51:56
<JarnoO> :)
15:52:03
<7> Cartoons are the only things some drivers understand
15:54:46
<Betty> Lion
15:54:54
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Lion trying
15:55:29
<Betty> teasing, evil cat
15:56:16
<JarnoO> some junction examples are giving me chills. No way those would pass the design phase here
15:56:37
<Kevin L™ 🌵> We use this on SR375 near Rachel. https://www.roadtrafficsigns.com/alien-crossing-symbol-sign/sku-k2-0539
15:56:51
<JarnoO> :D
15:59:28
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Controls released
16:19:09
<KorbenC> nice Lion
16:19:12
<Betty> Lion
16:22:35
<KorbenC> Joe, not initial eruption
16:22:44
<KorbenC> At least I don't think so.
16:25:24
<KorbenC> Joe, if you are here can you PM me.
17:32:17
<linda> electric peak looks interesting
17:42:35
<KorbenC> Hi Laura
17:45:34
<KorbenC> Hi Forest
17:45:40
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Korben
17:46:33
<KorbenC> Did you see the recent HRRR EHI Run? Some areas in ND are reaching 16.3EHI
17:46:54
<Forestbewithyou> I haven't but I did see the MOD risk
17:50:08
<Forestbewithyou> Oh yea I see it now
17:52:33
<Laura> Hello Korben, hello Forestbewithyou. Sorry I was AFK
17:52:50
<Forestbewithyou> Hi Laura
17:53:32
<Laura> I will be AFK periodically, getting ready to leave tomorrow
18:53:02
<linda> love that cloud
18:54:29
<KorbenC> Where did OF go?
18:54:37
<KorbenC> I look over and see it starting, then I look back and its gone
18:58:52
<Forestbewithyou> Well I am off for tonight. Enjoy the rest of the evening
18:59:03
<KorbenC> Bye Forest
18:59:44
<linda> ForestbewithyouT-10, night
19:45:57
<KorbenC> Bye all, have a good one.
19:46:48
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Good Knight
19:52:00
<kcmule> avs trying to goon it up
19:53:29
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Hard to play at the Fortress.
20:32:02
<kcmule> lots of fun and we're only halfway through
20:40:08
<Craig M (freezi> It’s gonna be a cold night in the tent tonight
20:42:48
<KorbenC> Hi Craig
20:43:15
<KorbenC> You are from Minnesota, I though you and I agreed that 40F is amazing weather :)
20:47:09
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Going into round 3...
20:49:17
<Kitt> Artemisia
20:49:38
<Kitt> ie
20:53:29
<Craig M (freezi> It’s 28 right now in west
20:53:46
<KorbenC> Even better :)
20:53:58
<linda> hope you brought a warm sleeping bag
20:54:21
<KorbenC> Its 77F here, I am eating icechips and sitting in the direct path of an air conditioner :)
20:54:40
<linda> cooled off here to around 65
20:55:00
<KorbenC> lucky
20:55:31
<linda> yeah had two ugly days of weather, like close to 90 with 90% humidity
20:55:42
<KorbenC> Grand hls delay
20:56:36
<linda> well good night, and good luck Craig M :)
21:38:18
<Kevin L™ 🌵> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtGxusvUT3k&ab_channel=BradDellBradDell
21:38:39
<kcmule> ⚰️
21:38:46
<kcmule> so strange that montreal will be next
21:39:03
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Strange season
21:39:35
<Kevin L™ 🌵> Sure helps to have fans back