Showing logs for date: 2022-08-04
06:32:05 <Kat> Morning all
06:32:19 <CraigC> Kat, howdy
06:32:29 <Kat> Howdy Craig
07:12:35 <Kat> Sawmill off
07:39:37 <Kat> :daisy:
07:42:56 <Kat> Updated time - thx
07:47:45 <Kat> I deleted my Daisy as in basin should be first entry :)
08:12:02 <Kat> OF
08:24:21 <Kat> Grand
08:30:42 <Katie 🌻> good moring
08:31:05 <Kat> Hi Katie
08:31:41 <Kat> Katie 🌻, have a good drive
08:31:56 <Katie 🌻> Thanks, Kat
08:43:30 <Dave from B™> Good morning Kat & Katie
08:43:52 <Kat> Dave from B™, hi Dave
08:50:41 <CraigC> Dave from B™, hey dude
08:52:44 <Dave from B™> Morning CraigC
09:00:38 <Dave from B™> I take it your mtn biker friends didn't win the lottery
09:07:48 <CraigC> hahaha, apparently not, unless they are keeping it from me
09:08:17 <CraigC> but I doubt it, one of them brought 3 bikes over for me to try and sell for him
09:10:03 <Dave from B™> What do you charge for a commission?
09:12:18 <CraigC> I told him I woould just do it, but he said only if I took 10%
09:12:45 <Dave from B™> Morning Jimbo
09:13:27 <I'm So Rare> Hi Dave. The winning mega millions ticket was sold in my home town.
09:13:31 <CraigC> but he took one back after I found out the blue book on it was pretty low, and I don't blame him, it is a nice fat tire bike that would be better to just keep around
09:16:43 <CraigC> the tax on the lottery is sick, considering Musk and Bezos get away with paying hardly anything
09:17:08 <CraigC> if onyl we had a flat sales tax, with food and clothes being exempt
09:18:40 <Dave from B™> Yeah, people with fancy accountants can deduct everything
09:32:28 <Katie 🌻> I would like to see non-primary residents taxed at a higher rate, too. I say that as a person who is part of a family that owns rental properties, so it's not a self-serving wish. It would, in fact, cost us. But vacation properties and those used as vacation rentals are a huge issue. (we operate all of our rentals on long-term leases at fair rent - we provide HOUSING)
09:33:38 <Kat> Arty
09:34:42 <Katie 🌻> Lolo community is currently considering a resort tax to pay for much needed water/sewer upgrades. The bitter issue is that means long-term residents are paying for new developments, so resort tax is an idea to lessen that burden. I'm trying to keep an open mind and hear all info/arguments before I form an opinion and engage.
09:36:06 <Katie 🌻> I can't get past the fact that we are NOT a resort community and I do think it would hurt the local businesses - people won't stop on their commute from Bitterroot to Missoula
09:38:06 <Dave from B™> So, tax the landowners who are building these projects
09:38:52 <Katie 🌻> Exactly!
09:38:53 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Why not just make the developers pay for the infrastructure needed for their development.
09:40:11 <Dave from B™> That's what I mean
09:40:57 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Do you know how much it cost to get a water meter permit (not including the meter, line, or installation) for a single family residence here?
09:41:35 <Dave from B™> You guys have water to be building more houses? (See Lake Mead)
09:43:10 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That is a sore spot. For over 25 years they have been saying we have a problem but when we conserve water, they just issue a bunch of new permits.
09:43:19 <Katie 🌻> Our water pressure in Lolo is now SO bad. Our UG sprinklers still work, because we bought heads designed for low pressure, but many peoples' don't - there isn't enough pressure for them to even pop up. Ours has a delay while it pressurizes, but works.
09:44:10 <Katie 🌻> BUT, it takes forever to adequately water pots on the deck with hose.
09:44:29 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I have the opposite problem. I have to have a limiter to reduce pressure.
09:44:53 <Dave from B™> Kevin, everyone wants to live in LV with things to do and nice weather. I'm not sure what the solution is.
09:45:08 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am right by the tunnel to Lake Mead.
09:46:21 <Katie 🌻> The pressure difference between last year and this year is dramatic - and it was already low (has been steadily declining for the last 20 years, but it has reached a critical stage)
09:46:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Water meter permits are $33,000. Add to that about another $5000 for innstallation.
09:46:53 <Kevin L™ 🌵> BTW the rain we had this month raised Lake Mead 3 inches.
09:51:35 <Dave from B™> Billings is in the process of planning a huge water reservoir project so the city has more than a days worth of water if problems such as flooding occur.
09:54:19 <Dave from B™> It's going to be a recreation area as well
09:54:26 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Nice to have spare water.
09:54:52 <Dave from B™> The small reservoir we already have in the planned area is a birding paradise
09:55:08 <Dave from B™> I've seen great blue heron and bald eagles there
09:55:38 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That would be fun. The old Pittman Swamp here is a bird refuge now.
10:01:12 <Dave from B™> There is a restayrant patio that borders the reservoir. It is a great place to hang out.
10:04:24 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Got that Perry Mason music. And the controls even loaded!
10:06:11 <Chancellor> We have birded there in Billings many times as well as the Audubon Center
10:15:29 <Katie 🌻> Happy driving, Kevin
10:16:59 <Kevin L™ 🌵> My brother is in Iceland today but I haven't seen any pictures yet.
11:26:52 <Ryan>
11:27:07 <Ryan> About an hour ago he lava flow breached the wall in the foreground and is spilling over.
11:27:27 <Ryan> The vents are now appearing to erupt up and out of a standing lake of lava.
11:59:59 <8> no OF entry
12:01:40 <ynpvisitor311> wasn't me
12:01:50 <Dave from B™> No Steamboat entry either
12:02:07 <ynpvisitor311> Dave from B™, did you not enter it?
12:02:33 <KorbenC> Who is driving?
12:02:46 <ynpvisitor311> not me
12:03:14 <KorbenC> ask for a quick check on Beehive in a little bit, it is afterall just over 24hrs
12:03:41 <KorbenC> OF is in
12:04:54 <KorbenC> Splish splash. BH is awake
12:06:13 <ynpvisitor311> Geldingadalir is having concerted minors
12:06:28 <Betty> hi all
12:06:36 <ynpvisitor311> Betty, howdy
12:07:11 <Dave from B™> Hey Betty
12:07:41 <Betty> Howdy CrCo, hi Dave
12:07:54 <ynpvisitor311> :)
12:08:27 <Betty> ;-)
12:09:30 <Betty> guess I´m right
12:14:55 <8> did it cool off there Betty?
12:15:01 <KorbenC> Hi Betty
12:15:35 <KorbenC> 311, hello there Mr. Co :P
12:16:49 <Betty> nope. Hottest day today. 101 highest. hi KorbenC
12:17:14 <8> ugh, that is a long heat stretch now
12:17:43 <ynpvisitor311> Betty, have you had to adhere to any restrictions with gas or ac use?
12:19:45 <Betty> no, not yet. But we do not have too many ac in our houses, companies etc. just A/C in Food stores
12:22:10 <8> so no AC at work? Are the trains hot?
12:24:34 <Betty> I have AC in my lab, and trains have AC too. just not usual in homes or smaller companies
12:24:47 <Dave from B™> Overall, Europe is not a very hot place
12:25:02 <Dave from B™> At least in Belgium and France
12:25:11 <8> splashy Bee
12:25:36 <8> indy
12:25:39 <KorbenC> .
12:25:39 <KorbenC> .
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12:25:40 <KorbenC> .
12:25:57 <KorbenC> Cool that you could see the water coming up in it and overflowing
12:26:00 <Betty> yay
12:26:05 <Dave from B™> woohoo
12:26:08 <8> it must be windier than the 1 mph listed in weather part of chat
12:26:22 <Katie 🌻> sending text
12:26:31 <KorbenC> 8. why?
12:26:43 <8> cam seems to be moving about
12:27:05 <8> and earlier trees were swaying in zoomed out view
12:27:52 <Dave from B™> Got it Katie
12:28:18 <Katie 🌻> glad I decided to check what the dinging was all about. Thanks for getting my attention, Korben. I had this window buried.
12:28:26 <ynpvisitor311> Dave from B™, whew, just in time
12:28:39 <KorbenC> Katie 🌻, :thumbsup: yvw
12:29:40 <Greg (working)> Email received, thank you
12:30:06 <8> Katie, Lorilurking was wondering how to sign up for texts nowadays yesterday
12:30:48 <8> there is no link here in chat anymore.
12:32:22 <Ryan> 8, talk to whomever manages the email group for it
12:32:41 <8> who is that? I thought you did it
12:33:06 <8> I have the texts, I wanted to be able to send her a link for it
12:34:04 <ynpvisitor311> wb, Kat
12:34:12 <Kat (phone)> Thx for text
12:34:52 <ynpvisitor311> "you should stick around and see this one" "No, we're going to see Morning Glory Pool"
12:35:15 <Lori S> ynpvisitor311, :i::i:
12:35:15 <Ryan> I passed that torch a while ago. I think Katie was who I handed it off to
12:35:53 <Kat (phone)> Nice crowd
12:35:53 <Dave from B™> No, I will not stop!!
12:36:15 <KorbenC> Dave, lol
12:36:35 <Katie 🌻> message me here with # and carrier or email to
12:36:51 <8> thanks Katie. I will let her know
12:37:21 <Kat (phone)> Katie 🌻, I will do the take, still not set up
12:38:20 <ynpvisitor311> "you told us 10 minutes!!!"
12:38:49 <KorbenC> "this isn't as cool as Old Fathful"
12:38:50 <Lori S> ynpvisitor311, lol
12:39:15 <KorbenC> 15min into Indy now
12:40:04 <8> gives the crows across the river time to assemble
12:40:14 <KorbenC> BEE :bee::bee:
12:40:18 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Bee
12:40:28 <Kat (phone)> :bee:
12:40:50 <KorbenC> It is trying to get more than 50ft :P
12:41:28 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Someone got a shower
12:41:51 <Lori S> Good job Bee!
12:42:29 <DougB> :bee:
12:43:03 <8> well indy is tall
12:43:28 <ynpvisitor311> 8, looks like 1mph to me ;)
12:43:39 <8> or was tall
12:45:21 <Kat (phone)> Nice Bee! Thx
12:47:07 <Lori S> Thx for text! Have a goid day all
12:47:17 <Lori S> good*
12:51:58 <8> the lava river has rapids on it. Pretty amazing
12:52:35 <8> Kevin, I hope your brother gets to go watch it
12:52:47 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I can hardly wait for my brother's pictures.
12:57:07 <Greg (working)> Kevin where is he?
13:14:15 <Betty> isn´t he going to Iceland?
13:16:05 <Kevin L™ 🌵> He is in Iceland
13:16:32 <Betty> so cool :-)
13:16:35 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Got there last night
13:19:07 <Betty> :daisy:
13:46:13 <Kevin L™ 🌵> How humid are you Betty?
13:47:40 <ynpvisitor311> humid is a better word than 'moist'
13:48:45 <Betty> 38%
13:49:46 <Betty> still 83 at 2149
13:50:19 <Betty> will be another tropical night
13:50:46 <Kevin L™ 🌵> That makes it miserable.
13:51:03 <Kevin L™ 🌵> We hate it over 20% here.
13:51:47 <Betty> my app says 34% at Vegas
13:53:44 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I am at 44% right now. We have the monsoons just below us. Cool temp though, only 85°.
14:02:36 <Betty> :lion:
14:03:47 <Betty> LC
14:32:41 <Kat> Grotto
14:33:57 <Kat> Sawmill
14:47:20 <Kevin L™ 🌵> of
14:53:25 <Betty> headed out, night all
14:53:32 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Grand
15:48:53 <Michelle> Good afternoon
15:57:48 <Kevin L™ 🌵> hi
15:58:43 <Michelle> Hi Kevin L™ 🌵,
15:59:07 <Michelle> Whenever you are ready.
15:59:23 <Kevin L™ 🌵> You should have some Lions.
15:59:38 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Released
16:00:11 <Michelle> That would be nice, since I sat and waited for it and nothing
16:01:08 <Michelle> Thanks for driving Kevin
16:13:29 <Michelle> OF window
16:14:53 <Michelle> Picture and controls are sure wonky
16:24:38 <KorbenC> some impressive bursts from the iceland volcano
16:26:59 <Michelle> Yes. Absolutely beautiful
16:29:43 <Michelle> OF
16:31:01 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Rainbow
16:35:57 <Michelle> We missed it. Pretty sure that was a Lion
16:40:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> I got the Chama train.
16:42:12 <Michelle> What is the Chama train?
16:42:41 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Narrow Gauge train in Chama NM.
16:43:19 <Kevin L™ 🌵>
16:51:33 <Michelle> Awesome!
16:54:14 <Kevin L™ 🌵> It just left the depot but will be coming back in about 10m. I think Graham rode it Tuesday, I will be on it Aug 24, and Dave will be there in September if he doesn't break it.
17:00:16 <Michelle> :daisy:
17:10:42 <Kevin L™ 🌵> Train is turned. Will be sending the engine to the north cam to get fed before they put it to sleep.
17:18:20 <Michelle> :thumbsup:
17:19:17 <Kevin L™ 🌵> They are feeding it on the north cam now.
17:56:43 <Michelle> OF window
18:01:30 <8> 2 Grands in a row at 6 1/ hours. That is different
18:03:30 <KorbenC> Lets hope it starts doing what it did in late June
18:05:42 <ynpvisitor311> the weasel conundrum
18:11:48 <Michelle> OF
18:22:03 <8> Hey Korben, the NYTimes today said federal scientists expect a busier than normal hurricane season
18:23:52 <KorbenC> That is correct, an above average hurricane season is expected.
18:24:35 <KorbenC> I think they said 60% chance of above normal, 30% near normal, 10% below normal
18:25:39 <8> is this a late start?
18:26:43 <KorbenC> Not really. We weren't really expecting storms early this year, the conditions have not gotten "set up" yet, which is why there have only been 3 named storms in the Atlantic basin
18:28:25 <KorbenC> August-October are the peak months, give it a couple of weeks and conditions will improve dramatically for hurricane formation.
18:28:44 <8> thanks
18:30:29 <KorbenC> :thumbsup:
18:37:19 <KorbenC> Looking at things, the ocean temp just is refusing to warm up and get beyond the 26.5C boundary for very long. The winds are also not there, and tropical waves are not cooperating.
19:22:34 <Michelle> :daisy:
19:36:12 <Michelle> OF window
19:46:35 <Michelle> OF
20:28:23 <Michelle> Sweet Sunset!!
20:29:32 <🍔> It is nice
20:29:36 <Michelle> We will check it again in a few!
20:35:43 <Michelle> WOW!!
21:23:33 <Michelle> C'mon OF
21:26:32 <Michelle> OF
21:31:27 <Michelle> Going to leave it here. Have a great evening!