06:16:25
<Joe> Aurum video https://youtu.be/cpUQN378ezY
06:16:57
<CraigC> Joe, congrats on catching Aurum
06:18:17
<Joe> thanks Craig
06:19:02
<Joe> good morning
06:19:10
<CraigC> Joe, Morning
06:37:55
<JarnoO> Ben VL managed to get a hold of a visitor's video from the Black Diamond eruption. It had 0953 as timestamp
06:39:28
<Joe> JarnoO, is trere a link to the video
06:40:34
<JarnoO> not that I know of, I think just shown to him in-basin
06:40:54
<Joe> thanks
06:45:45
<JarnoO> Daisy
06:45:50
<Joe> :daisy:
06:53:06
<Joe> Must be good sleeping weather in New Jersey
06:53:30
<JarnoO> speaking of :P
06:53:40
<linda> Joe, na its hot and humid lol
06:53:40
<Joe> ah1 there she is
06:54:00
<linda> Joe, jalo koe halo
06:54:23
<linda> jalo is a little different than halo :)
06:54:31
<Joe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fO44VgOS6c
06:54:40
<linda> morning all
06:54:50
<JarnoO> morning
06:56:14
<linda> wow cam is sluggish
06:58:24
<linda> kicked me out already not a good start
07:00:04
<linda> cool
07:20:09
<linda> OF
07:26:03
<Dave from B> Good morning everyone! 105 for predicted high today
07:26:13
<LindaG> Dave from B, lucky you
07:26:18
<LindaG> Dave from B, morning
07:26:31
<LindaG> Bee splashes
07:28:56
<Dave from B> Nice to see Salt Lake get the Olympics again
07:29:49
<CraigC> ughhhh... Utah has bad air and insufficient water, this is bad leadership, IMO
07:30:09
<Dave from B> Nobody else wanted them
07:30:23
<CraigC> they were smarter
07:32:04
<Dave from B> Tardy is ie in anyone cares
07:32:49
<Dave from B> And Sprinkler:)
07:36:53
<linda> CraigC, HOWDY
07:37:15
<linda> didnt mean to yell lol
07:37:37
<CraigC> linda, HI !!!! lol
07:41:41
<LindaG> Lc ie
07:44:39
<linda> good aurum splash
07:45:37
<JarnoO> Ecstasy of Gold? :)
08:12:13
<asdf> steam from grove area
08:13:07
<Dave from B> I wonder how long it will take to clean up Biscuit and get the bw reopened? 1 month?
08:28:25
<JarnoO> NPS made a calculation error with their Daisy prediction; should be an hour earlier. Should be close anyway
08:28:59
<LindaG> :daisy:
08:29:12
<JarnoO> speak of the devil :)
08:29:37
<LindaG> :)
08:35:40
<LindaG> Bee splash
08:54:55
<LindaG> OF
09:18:35
<JarnoO> morning fish - there's a more accurate time of 0953 (though from a video's timestamp) for that Black Diamond eruption yesterday per Ben VL's comment on the entry, if that helps with getting a seismic reading
09:19:52
<fishynp> thank you.
09:21:36
<JarnoO> Though from the videos I've seen, it didn't particularly have a percussive component to it, so I have my reservations for YFT's ability to capture it. Had Biscuit Basin had a seismo, I think you would've seen it on there, though
09:22:16
<KorbenC> Morning all. It's 9am, Bee is allowed to erupt now :P
09:27:54
<LindaG> KorbenC, did you bring the button?
09:28:38
<LindaG> arty
09:29:46
<LindaG> guess I'm late
09:40:09
<Dave from B> Loooks like MR is at Biscuit
09:42:27
<linda> cam down
09:42:49
<LindaG> It's back
09:43:24
<Dave from B> lot of poeple at indy
09:43:36
<Dave from B> must be morning tour
09:43:43
<linda> waiting patiently
09:44:15
<Dave from B> Hopefully hear water in indy soon
09:46:30
<LindaG> I'm not going to be able to stay for long. At 10am I will set an alarm for OF and leave cam in a good place for a.while
09:47:11
<LindaG> I have guests coming this.afternoon need to get things done. I'll have to put on OF after that
09:47:21
<LindaG> I want Bee to.eruot :)
09:47:40
<KorbenC> CCI is bold and energetic
09:47:53
<LindaG> KorbenC, :)
09:48:14
<LindaG> KorbenC, where's the button?
09:48:33
<KorbenC> I think Beehive pressed it already :P
09:48:58
<linda> :)
09:51:25
<JarnoO> Sawmill still ie from 0647
09:51:55
<JarnoO> should slowly be heading to its end, though
09:52:09
<JarnoO> assuming a 3-4h eruption, and not an exceptional 7h+
09:53:21
<JarnoO> Daisy also coming up
09:56:30
<linda> ding a lot if you see indy
09:58:53
<LindaG> :)
10:08:51
<79> :daisy:
10:11:50
<KorbenC> Castle
10:13:05
<LindaG> :grand:
10:13:34
<KorbenC> Dool
10:13:54
<linda> looks like grand just stated
10:14:12
<LindaG> just missed a triple
10:18:24
<LindaG> of course OF due :(
10:20:35
<791> OF at 1h 26 min not likely
10:21:14
<linda> yeah im waiting
10:21:47
<linda> grand almost done
10:22:18
<Dodging Sinter> Castle looks tall
10:23:27
<791> 2nd
10:23:41
<LindaG> Yay
10:24:42
<LindaG> after this ill.put on hill and set timer for OF
10:25:00
<LindaG> after OF that is
10:25:16
<LindaG> Unless a campop wants to take it
10:25:23
<LindaG> Lol camop
10:27:51
<CraigC> not I, said the cow
10:28:32
<linda> :)
10:36:43
<LindaG> OF
10:41:30
<linda> ding loud at any sign of indy or bee, feel free to grab the cam if you can
11:21:28
<KorbenC> .
11:21:28
<KorbenC> .
11:21:29
<KorbenC> .
11:21:29
<KorbenC> .
11:21:29
<KorbenC> .
11:21:29
<KorbenC> .
11:21:50
<KorbenC> INDY
11:22:32
<KorbenC> I will send text
11:24:11
<Dodging Sinter> Not zooming for cam protection?
11:24:30
<KorbenC> Think camop stepped away
11:25:23
<linda> i didn't hear the dings :(
11:25:58
<Katie> Hi all
11:26:06
<Katie> What timing I have in logging in. :)
11:26:11
<linda> Katie, hi
11:26:20
<KorbenC> linda, that's why these 15+min Indicators are nice, gives everyone time to get back :)
11:26:37
<linda> :)
11:27:01
<linda> if you put cursor in wrong spot it doesn't ding :(
11:27:29
<JarnoO> yeah, has to be outside the chat box to hear the dings
11:27:51
<JarnoO> though I've got them turned off, so I don't hear them, period :)
11:34:21
<Eric> Thanks for the heads up!
11:34:27
<Eric> and Hello all
11:34:39
<linda> Eric, hi
11:34:44
<Eric> Hi Linda!
11:35:35
<JarnoO> hi Eric, have you seen Ben VL's comment on the BD entry yet? Video timestamp of 0953 from VR
11:36:36
<Eric> Thanks Jarno, no I had not seen that.
11:37:16
<Eric> Also, have we gotten a height estimate yet from that video you posted from X near jewel?
11:37:31
<Ryan> 375-400 was Ben's thought
11:37:38
<Eric> WOW!
11:37:48
<Eric> Much taller than I thought.
11:38:04
<JarnoO> I calculated a crude height from that Jewel of 113-118 meters, 370-387 feet
11:38:04
<Eric> BH says...nope, not yet
11:38:11
<Ryan> Yeah. I really am interested in whatever the USGS comes up with from their research into that event.
11:38:14
<JarnoO> from that Jewel video of*
11:38:47
<linda> bee
11:38:52
<Ryan> I hope someone publishes a paper on it like they did for the mechanism for Waimangu
11:38:57
<Kitt> didn't get an indy text
11:39:05
<Eric> BH!
11:39:14
<Kitt> nice
11:39:18
<Eric> Wooot...love me some chevrons!
11:39:24
<Eric> Hi Kitt!
11:39:36
<Kitt> visitor baptisms
11:39:59
<JarnoO> However, the video from the Grand Loop Road (second attachment on the entry) suggests a height of "only" 102 meters, 334 feet - BD and the GLR are at approximately the same height, with no higher points between them
11:40:28
<Ryan> I think Ben used falling rocks for his estimate.
11:40:35
<Eric> Jarno, unknown camera zoom levels would affect height, right?
11:40:42
<JarnoO> yeah, he did mention that, Ryan
11:41:01
<Eric> ahh, falling rocks isn't bad...but frame rates are slow.
11:41:12
<JarnoO> it would, Eric
11:41:52
<Eric> Nice to see a Bijou call out!
11:42:00
<JarnoO> though I have good reason to believe the Jewel video is unzoomed, as is the first part (with the tallest jet) of the GLR video
11:42:09
<Ryan> I used the Grand Loop video and assuming the trees were in the 20ft range came up with mid-300s.
11:42:28
<Eric> Matt watching Jewel from the road or basin back open?
11:42:53
<Kitt> I can't imagine they have opened Biscuit yet
11:42:56
<Ryan> I think the Grand Loop video is probably the best one to use. Someone can get the height of those trees in the foreground and go from there.
11:43:07
<Eric> Sounds like the consensus is pretty strong in that 300+ ft range....pretty awesome!
11:43:29
<Ryan> I am suspcious of timing falling rocks when a better alternative is available.
11:43:55
<Eric> Love the applause :-D
11:44:32
<Dave from B> I was thinkking 850-900:D
11:44:36
<Ryan> mhreed is also out with geology
11:44:40
<JarnoO> Earlier in the Jewel video there's a streamer which reaches higher than the tallest jet a bit later, by the way - going by the Jewel height estimate, that one would have come pretty darn close to 400 feet, if not more
11:44:45
<Ryan> They may be allowed into the basin
11:44:52
<Eric> Ryan....ahhh, thanks.
11:45:09
<Ryan> Their descriptions of the aftermath are.... colorful.
11:45:31
<Eric> :-D
11:45:38
<Ryan> "I saw rocks that punched holes in the board walk. This thing had no chill."
11:45:50
<JarnoO> Looking good for Daisy below 1h30m today. Already at <1h35m before 1200
11:45:54
<Eric> hahaha
11:45:55
<LindaGp> Ok at 2pm I'm putting.on OF, if a camop want it be my guest
11:46:11
<LindaGp> Actually 12pm your time
11:46:20
<Ryan> The videos are really neat but the the photos of the aftermath are more impressive in my mind. Those are huge rocks. I wonder how many of them got thrown that far versus washed.
11:46:46
<linda> :daisy:
11:46:53
<Eric> I circled one of the boulders that is huge and definitely wasn't there pre-eruption....so big.
11:47:00
<LindaGp> for about 10 seconds
11:47:08
<Ryan> The plume was angled towards the river, but theres still a disproportionately large spread in one direction versus the other
11:47:08
<Eric> circled it in red and posted on geyer discussion
11:47:37
<Ryan> I've had to limit my FB exposure to this event. Entirely too much misinformation and willful misinterpretation.
11:47:44
<Eric> I would love to see any video people got of wall/black diamond in the hour or two leading up to the eruption.
11:48:07
<Ryan> Indeed. It was clearly erupting in some fashion long enough for people to get their phones out.
11:48:29
<Eric> I hear you ryan...FB has been pretty toxic around this event.
11:48:31
<JarnoO> A certain someone is definitely going to have "fun" with the eruption on YouTube
11:48:57
<Ryan> Waimangu's mechanism was apparently deep boiling that had debris slough in on it, briefly choke it, and then violently burst through.
11:49:12
<Ryan> I could see the same having happened here.
11:50:28
<Ryan> Whatever it was was insane. My personal FB feed was a glorious rabbit hole of discussions about shock fronts and entropy changes.
11:51:01
<Ryan> Someone gets to study this for a long time, and I am very envious of them.
11:51:38
<Ryan> Well, nice Bee. Back to work.
11:52:17
<JarnoO> I'm actually tentatively thinking it was a new vent which opened in Black Diamond. The tallest jets didn't appear to line up with the location of crater as outlined in Transactions XII on page 67
11:53:01
<JarnoO> of course the crater of Black Diamond itself also erupted, as the Grand Loop Road video shows it was a wide eruption as well
11:53:12
<Ryan> There may not even be a real vent in that pool. The "vent" could be under meters of sediment.
11:53:44
<Ryan> It's possible that the emerging eruptions just take whatever is the path of least resistance and that could vary by a few feet laterally.
11:53:58
<JarnoO> quite possible, yeah
11:55:01
<Ryan> In the course of my rabbit hole yesterday I also learned that the speed of sound in steam is as low as a few feet per second under the right conditions.
11:55:21
<JarnoO> could even go so far as considering Wall Pool, BD and BO as the same system, but with different vents. Sorta like Spasmodic but big
11:55:27
<Ryan> Which - I knew it was low - but not that low. Makes more sense why you can see shock waves in eruptions of Beehive, Steamboat, and Mortar
11:55:54
<Ryan> I suspect the Wall-BlackDiamond Complex is all one energy source.
11:56:19
<JarnoO> its explosive history sure does suggest so
11:56:42
<Ryan> It's proximity to the river also leads to questions.
11:57:07
<Ryan> Like - is the subsurface there actually bedrock? The river banks are obsidian sand and clearly when BD erupts its ejecting old river sand.
11:57:09
<JarnoO> In what sense?
11:57:29
<JarnoO> ah, like so
11:57:48
<Ryan> Is there just 10 feet of sinter and then a wet sludge of sand and mud that sometimes has a slug of deep thermal water injected into it?
11:58:18
<Ryan> Rivers meander. I can easily see Iron Spring Creek having been where BD is now.
11:58:59
<Ryan> And the outflow from Sapphire and the rest of Biscuit Basin can easily have covered over the sand banks in a few centuries.
11:59:26
<Ryan> That whole area may just be powerful features which got buried by meandering river sediments, covered over by sinter, and are now re-excavating themselves.
11:59:41
<JarnoO> Quite possible. Island's island is shown as an isthmus on the 1871 map of the UGB
12:00:02
<Ryan> I suspect these are the things that the USGS is investigating.
12:00:52
<Ryan> It's one thing to have erratic hydrothermal explosions - its another thing to have a pre-existing powerful feature that is going to continue doing this.
12:01:22
<Ryan> That would be something to consider when rebuilding the boardwalks - do you keep it near a feature that is likely to do this again?
12:01:22
<CraigC> does anyone have the cam now?
12:01:50
<CraigC> Dave?
12:01:59
<linda> CraigC, I do but i'm about to put on OF and leave so if you want it take it
12:02:09
<Katie> I'll log in and move to OF while we figure that out
12:02:21
<linda> Katie, ok
12:02:30
<CraigC> cool, not sure I will be on here long
12:02:33
<Dave from B> not me
12:02:58
<linda> good. controls released
12:03:03
<linda> have a good afternoon
12:03:13
<Dave from B> Bye linda
12:03:15
<Katie> Dave M comes on at 4:00 today. today is Wednesday, right? I've been out sick and getting my bearings back.
12:03:34
<CraigC> Katie, sorry to hear, best wishes
12:04:08
<linda> Dave from B, bye
12:04:15
<linda> Katie, feel better
12:04:20
<Ryan> OK - back to work! Later everyone.
12:04:26
<CraigC> I'm trying to be more active, but after riding this morning in smoky heat, I don't feel like going outside for anything today
12:04:48
<Katie> Thanks, no fever last night, so I got restful sleep and am on the mend.
12:05:19
<Dave from B> CraigC, I hear ya. Hard to do much outside in this heat
12:06:18
<CraigC> look at this smoke from during my bike ride; https://imgur.com/a/Ri5y27H
12:12:54
<Dave from B> yep...clear skies of early summer are over
12:25:04
<JarnoO> Black Diamond 78 hours before the eruption: https://www.reddit.com/r/yellowstone/comments/1eapyl8/what_black_diamond_looked_like_78_hours_before_it/
12:25:51
<Katie> OF
13:56:34
<Jake📊> Hi all
14:06:49
<Dave from B> Hi Jake
14:08:13
<Katie> OF
14:34:13
<kc (working)> ~~ Jake
14:57:32
<Jake📊> So, anything exciting happening lately?:-/
14:59:07
<Jake📊> Cam wasn't down basin for the Black Diamond event I take it?
14:59:49
<Katie> I don't know. I wasn't watching yesterday.
15:03:36
<Katie> I'd zoom - but I can't.
15:04:53
<Jake📊> I took a quick look at the capture. Camop was focusing on Lion and other erupting geysers instead! For shame!
15:05:07
<Jake📊> :daisy:
15:54:25
<Katie> LC
15:55:32
<Katie> Lion is warming up
15:55:45
<Katie> And there it goes
18:20:56
<JarnoO> heh. Guess I've jinxed it by saying today looks good for going sub-1h30m
19:34:14
<Craig> grotto start? grotto fountain?
19:35:45
<JarnoO> just post-Rocket Grotto activities
19:36:41
<JarnoO> speaking of, Rocket sending up a jet again
20:36:41
<Craig> Why am I disoriented
20:37:00
<Craig> oh! its oblong